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rescind the other order. Q.I am now coming to the drive with regard to partisan children in upper Krainola and Lower Styria. Did you participate in this in any way personally? A.No. I did not receive these orders from Himmler and the Race and Settlement Main Office has not been mentioned either in the distribution. Q.T... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 838,350 | 838,850 |
drive? A.I cannot recall the entire matter at all any more nor can I recall the details. Q.To what extent were you involved in the case of Lidice. You have Document Book VIII-A before you. Please take a look at Exhibits 397, 398 and 399. You will find them on page 124. A.Yes, I found them. Q.Are you acquainted with thi... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 838,800 | 839,300 |
who were eligible for re-Germanization. Himmler's adjutant then sent an inquiry to me which was rather rude, and then in my reply of the 17th of April, 1942 I appeased him and quieted him down. Q.Please take a look at Exhibit 406 on page 9. Were the three hundred families which have been mentioned here examined by agen... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 839,250 | 839,750 |
Settlement Main Office worked together with the health office at Lodz and had correspondence with them about these children. You will find that in Document Book VII, Exhibit 396. Do you know anything about this correspondence? A.No. Q.In the previously mentioned speech of the 6th of October 1942, Exhibit 153 in Documen... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 839,700 | 840,200 |
Exhibit 445 to you. It is located in the same document book. You will find it there on page 39. This document deals with the survey about the decrees which were given with regard to the accommodations given to the children of Partisans. A.These decrees are agreements between the WVHA, the Economic and Administrative Ma... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 840,150 | 840,650 |
order to regulate the actual employment of the classification experts in individual cases we found the Reich Health Leader had Conti give many instructions and besides the General Plenipotentiary for labor allocation as can be seen from the decree. The classification experts were only participating in trifles. Q.The Pr... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 840,600 | 841,100 |
in connection with the abortions and concerning the quartering of the children that were born within the confines of the Reich by foreign workers; this would be the decree of 27 July 1943. Q.I am now showing you Document Hofmann No. 69 and I would like to ask you to tell me whether the decree of 10 February 1944 includ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 841,050 | 841,550 |
seemed to be definitely established in cases like that. Q.This general agreement had nothing to do with a personal agreement on your part? A.No. Q.This was a general regulation occurring in the Reich? A.Yes. Q.In connection with Point 13 of the indictment, do you still have Document Book 10 in front of you? A.Yes. Q.Pl... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 841,500 | 842,000 |
that this affidavit would be used against me. I never actually saw whether or not a Pole was hanged because of violating this decree. As Higher SS and Police Leader I only got to know about imminent executions by a report of the Gestapo Main Office. This report I relayed verbatim to the Gauleiter. This matter was handl... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 841,950 | 842,450 |
other interrogator, Mr. Wolff, who was there, tried to quiet him down. He told me: You are the first high SS leader who lies. You have already committed perjury three times. And in further connection with the interrogation he told me that for the very same reason "people had been hanged by me". Q.Who heard that: They h... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 842,400 | 842,900 |
were also subject to the law, for the protection of the German fighting morale. Punishment of such Germans was always taking place. I also can remember that SS-men were executed for those reasons. Q.Did the eastern workers know that they were even possibly subject to the death penalty? A.The eastern workers, before the... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 842,850 | 843,350 |
stated that he had nothing to do with these cases, while his successor looked into all these cases individually. Q.Did you, yourself, get these things submitted to you when you were Higher SS and Police Leader? A.No, I never got these things submitted to me, and, therefore, I never expressed an opinion on these matters... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 843,300 | 843,800 |
AYes; for the Reich Security Main Office--that is, the Gestapo Branch Office--had sent him there. QNow I am looking at a Prosecution document. This is Exhibit 522 contained in Document Book 11. Did the RUS leader go to those concentration camps? AYes, that may have been possible for a period of time in the individual c... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 843,750 | 844,250 |
that is the figure that is underneath the letterhead. A.The reference is made to the special treatment of the Polish and Czech civilian workers employed in the Reich, and it refers to the decree of the Reichsfuehrer --SS and chief of the German Police, dated 6th July, 1941. These two letters of the Racial Office were b... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 844,200 | 844,700 |
field command post in Berlin? A.No, it was in eastern Prussia. Q.Will you please tell us who was the presiding member of this conference? In the document Dr. Altstoetter, the defendant in Tribunal III, is mentioned. A.Yes, he himself told me and gave me a short information about this conference. He has been acquitted f... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 844,650 | 845,150 |
chief of the SD, and only he could give instructions or the Reich Commissar for the Strengthening of Germanism. QIs it correct to say that classification experts were working for the EWZ? AYes. QThe Prosecution has submitted a document in which a classification expert by the name of Amberger made certain suggestions. T... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 845,100 | 845,600 |
there were other opinions that were taken into consideration in the total evaluation of the case. Those were political opinions and opinions which evaluated his profession, the SD did not wish to be interfered with in their opinion on the man's political characteristics. QAmong other things Kaserer in these documents a... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 845,550 | 846,050 |
QExhibit 149. This is on page 82 of the German version. AYes, I have got it. In this connection I said that Dongus was needed for this special duty in the Government-General; this was in a way a precaution and in order to have a stronger basis for making this application, for on the one hand, the Wehrmacht wanted to ha... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 846,000 | 846,500 |
Brigadefuehrer Heider. Therefore, I cannot say anything about the participation of the Race and Settlement Main Office in the conference of 12th March, 1943. After all on March, 13, 1943, I was in East Prussia, and on this day Himmler called on me to resign my office. QWill you please turn the page. This brings us to E... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 846,450 | 846,950 |
with this matter, and Sieder was sent there by the Racial Office. Before that Sieder had nothing to do with these matters, nor did he have any special instructions. QI now show you Document Hoffmann No. 45, and I would like you to identify this document. The Dr. Sieder that is mentioned in this document, who is the aut... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 846,900 | 847,400 |
be an intermediary at Gauleiter Wagner's office. Gauleiter Wagner was, as I said yesterday, a rather independent man, and one had to be very careful not to change something that he had already put into effect. In this problem of the re-deportation of these Alsatians, I also had to be awfully careful. That is why the re... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 847,350 | 847,850 |
by Greifelt, upon Himmler's orders concerning the deportation of these Slovenes. You will find this in Document Book 5-E. A.Yes, I have it. Q.Exhibit 333. Were you not the originator of these instructions? You will find that at page 167. A.Yes, I have this document. No, I was not the originator. Q.These instructions ta... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 847,800 | 848,300 |
has submitted certain documents, according to which racial examinations were carried on in that area also. I am speaking about Exhibits 144, 145, and 151, contained in Volume 4-C. To what extent were you responsible for this operation? These documents you may find on pages 71, 75, and 86 of the German text. Will you pl... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 848,250 | 848,750 |
way in every Gau. That, too, has already been stated here. I can only repeat the fundamental regulation; and according to this it came within the Scope of Decree 50-1, Exhibit 102 that a racial examination of Group III was provided for. However, as I have already said, it was not possible to examine all cases. This is ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 848,700 | 849,200 |
against their own people, were classified into Group 4, A racial examination as such then was not necessary in these cases. Q.Do you still have Document Book 4-B before you? A.Yes. Q.Will you then please turn to the first Exhibit in this document book. This is Exhibit 114? A.Yes. Q.And will you please also look at the ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 849,150 | 849,650 |
I note here. Also, the witness Ehlich confirmed the fact that in practice such selection were never carried out. Q.Were you a member of the Supreme Selection Court of the DVL? A.Yes, as Chief of the RuSHA, I was. Q.Did you attend meetings? A.No. Q.In point 18 of the Indictment you are charged with special responsibilit... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 849,600 | 850,100 |
of the Indictment, the activities of the racial selectors or of the Race and Settlement leaders caused a voto to be taken against about 50 percent of all cases, and the interruption which had been applied for was prevented. Concerning point 13, which is very closely connected with the preceding point, the activities of... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 850,050 | 850,550 |
that reason, that I saw the memorandum before. Q.Now, what about your relations with the Racial Political Office? A.Well, I myself had no connection with it at all. From the correspondence between Pancke and Gross I think one can see that in the beginning there were points of contact, on the strength of the fact that R... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 850,500 | 851,000 |
look at Exhibit 92, the next document Book I. That is an excerpt of a speech of Himmler's, 1918-PS. It deals particularly with the activities of the Security Police. Did you know this speech? A.No, I had no knowledge of this speech. I tried to find out where and when it was made, but I was unable to. Q.That brings us t... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 850,950 | 851,450 |
here submitted by the Prosecution can be explained. Now these words "the East belongs to the SS" meant to imply at the time that should the East be colonized after the war then the SS members would be duly taken into consideration, and particularly those SS members, of course, who had helped to fight for that area. I a... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 851,400 | 851,900 |
for the least, the information he received was not correct, and concerning the tasks of the race and settlement main office during the war, he had not much of an opinion anyhow. Very often he expressed to me the poor opinion he had of the work of RuSHA. Q.That brings us to Exhibit 640 and 644. There the witness Tessera... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 851,850 | 852,350 |
and the 1,000 training farms were all in Germany proper and they had been selected in agreement with the Reich Food Association and were to be made ready for the reception of such SS men as were ready for resettlement after the war. Q.I think that the interpreter has translated 75 square kilometers by 25 square miles. ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 852,300 | 852,800 |
the advising of registration, training and assignment of applicants. The applicants from those persons who fulfilled the conditions were decided on by the Main Staff Office. Whether a resettlement actually took place, I don't know; if so, only in a few individual cases in the new Gaus of the Reich. I stress that the fa... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 852,750 | 853,250 |
mentioned as a part of the RuSHA, and the defendant Ebner is termed there as liaison officer of the Lebensborn West of RuSHA, is that correct? A.As from 1937, the Lebensborn was no longer a part of the RuSHA. I had no knowledge either that Dr. Ebner had any sort of a function of a high liaison officer. Q.Did you issue ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 853,200 | 853,700 |
personal staff he didn't have enough jobs on the T/O. QAnd were these Lebensborn workers under your authority as long as they were listed in the staff company? ANo. QThese so-called specialized leaders of the RuSHA, could they become active in that specialized field on their own initiative? ANo, because that wasn't the... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 853,650 | 854,150 |
between the RuSHA and the Lebensborn because after No. 9 of the Indictment Race and Settlement leaders in some cases at the same time were representatives of the Lebensborn. Therefore, that is not correct? ANo, that is not correct. I have to stress emphatically again that the Lebensborn and particularly my co-defendant... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 854,100 | 854,600 |
deduced the following: Within the frame-work of the question concerning citizenship, identification papers were obtained through the Pass and Foreigners Police. For Jews a second copy had to be issued of these identification papers and it had to be sent to the district police of their place of birth. A second copy had ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 854,550 | 855,050 |
would say, but it did not appeal to me at all, nor did I have any sympathy for Streicher himself. Q.Here we have a document that is a note concerning a meeting on the Wannsee on 20 January 1942 in which you participated. Is that correct? A.Yes. Q.This is Exhibit 543, Document Volume 13-A. Before you came to that meetin... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 855,000 | 855,500 |
mean Exhibit 543. AI read this note and I must say that it is an incorrect representation; especially Heydrich did not mention anything about the fact that Jews should experience a natural reduction in their number by slave labor, and that the remaining Jews were to be subjected to a corresponding treatment. The rest o... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 855,450 | 855,950 |
the opinions of those present. I believe that I can safely say that it was just through my suggestion and the debate created by this suggestion that the plans of Heydrich were not carried out concerning the deportation of persons of mixed Jewish blood of the first degree. In any case, I know that during the war this gr... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 855,900 | 856,400 |
this is one of the cases in which Himmler frequently developed his thoughts and made suggestions, but where no action was taken. QDid you know that before this discussion Jews had been evacuated and deported to the east? AYes; Heydrich told us that in the course of the meeting. I only knew about the other things from h... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 856,350 | 856,850 |
one part was type-written and then there were short notes appended to them. These notes, were they written in Himmler's own handwriting? A.Yes, these handwritten notes are identical with Himmler's handwritin That handwriting was quite characteristic. He did not write in Latin script--but in German script. His cue for t... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 856,800 | 857,300 |
document books, I shall submit this document in a final, official manner. This is--I am sorry--Exhibit 23. The exhibit 22 which I did not mention expressly at the time was submitted before this one. We have here now further documents. A letter of the Reich Minister of Justice to the participants of the meeting of 20 Ja... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 857,250 | 857,750 |
testified to before, this meeting probably did not have any results either. QThis seems to be also a meeting among experts, referents? AYes. QI would also like to have this document submitted for identification, and will ask to reserve No. 26 for this document. We now have before us several documents of the Prosecution... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 857,700 | 858,200 |
they were examined from a genealogical and eugenic point of view. That is why one made a photostat of this card index for the Hugenotts. This index was borrowed from Paris peice by piece and was brought back there. Therefore, it is also possible that Ossiander who was in charge of this examination approached the leader... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 858,150 | 858,650 |
Seeger has come back and he is healthy and feels well and is now living at home. QIt just strikes me that the witness Panckein an affidavit also testified something about Gypsies. I would, like to ask you just for the sake of completeness to state whether or not you had anything to do with the persecution of gypsies. A... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 858,600 | 859,100 |
were subordinated to the WVHA or to the Reich Security Main Office respectively. In my area when I was higher SS and police leader there was the concentration camp Natzweiler. I visited this camp twice, and I found out that the prisoners there were correctly treated and that they were well accommodated, I never had bee... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 859,050 | 859,550 |
certainly must have known of criminal activities with which parts of the SS were charged. AI know very well that you have never quite believed me on that point, Dr. Schwarz; however, I must tell you that that was not the case. I only found out about certain crimes now; the reason for this may be that the organizations ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 859,500 | 860,000 |
the directives of the Reichsfuehrer SS and that the RuS leader examined those people who had incurred punishment for illicit sexual intercourse. And then you also referred to your own report, Exhibit 481, and this report bears your signature. This letter does not mention the Main Staff Office. Can you remember with cer... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 859,950 | 860,450 |
will be found in Document Book II-C, which I will show you in just a moment, you will find a statement which I shall refer to now. In your direct examination you said that you and your agency had nothing to do with seizure and requisitioning. Now, in this affidavit, on pages 92 and 93, we find the statement that those ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 860,400 | 860,900 |
is right, Decree 17-2. That is the 9 of May 1940. QWell, will you tell me whether this decree involves the first decree concerning the procedure itself or whether it represents labor assignment measures decreed on the strength of a regulation already existing. AVery often the situation is that decrees which were made v... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 860,850 | 861,350 |
in the Main Staff Office of 1940 where the question of re-Germanization procedure was basically discussed. Now you told us that the meeting was presided over by Dr. Fehndrich. AYes. QWell, did professor Meyer-Hetling attend that meeting? AI couldn't tell you whether he was there. I don't think he was because I think he... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 861,300 | 861,800 |
make his acquaintance? AAt the time he was Chief of the main sector south at Munich. QDid you have often dealings with him and do you remember a special case where you had a contact with him personally? AAt the time I didn't have direct dealings with him yet, but the name Hildebrandt and the personality of Hildebrandt ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 861,750 | 862,250 |
QWitness, during your direct examination, you didn't follow Himmler's example at Posen but instead you had been reading the answers to the questions, have you not? AI didn't understand. QWitness, I will repeat. During your direct examination, I said you did not follow the example set by Himmler at Posen of speaking ext... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 862,200 | 862,700 |
about the examinations conducted by the RUS leaders and examiners attached to them. Now these examinations, weren't they conducted according to the technical directives that you have mentioned as being issued by RUSHA. AAs far as expert directives were concerned, yes, which were issued by RuSHA. QAs Higher SS and Polic... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 862,650 | 863,150 |
QThank you. Witness, you testified that as Higher SS and Police Leader you paid a great deal of attention to air raid precautions in your area. You knew, didn't you, that slave laborers in your area were allowed into air raid shelters only after every one else was taken care of and provided there was then any room left... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 863,100 | 863,600 |
by me. THE PRESIDENT:That is not my recollection. Go ahead. BY MR. SHILLER: QWill you please now answer the question, witness, I asked you, if you can explain the singular contradictory statement in your affidavit? AWell you see the request of the Wuerttemberg Metal Factory for labor had already been submitted to the W... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 863,550 | 864,050 |
that. In paragraph 6 it says that you disclaimed all responsibility for these women when the American troops were approaching. ABut I told the interrogator, mind you, that the women were to stay in the factory. The factory director wanted to send the women away. QWitness - JUDGEO'CONNELL: May I ask the attorney two or ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 864,000 | 864,500 |
results after the racial examination had been made. A copy of this, according to the distribution list, was sent to the Main Race & Settlement Office-SS Berlin. AMay I first tell you that there has been a mistake in translation. It was referred to the RuSHA but the order was issued by the RSHA. QWitness, I said the ord... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 864,450 | 864,950 |
as Prosecution Exhibit839? This is a letter from the Raoe Office of the RuSHA to the Gau Labor, Allocation Office, Main-Franken, dated 20 October, 1942, concerning the final determination of the suitability for Germanization of the people concerning whom we have been talking here. AFactual directives of the Racial Offi... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 864,900 | 865,400 |
matters, and in this letter the directive 67-1 is attached. MR. SHILLER:I respectfully submit this document for identification as Prosecution Exhibit No.840. QWitness, on direct examination you testified as to how beautifully you treated the prisoners of war in the District South West. Do you remember that Russian wome... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 865,350 | 865,850 |
out on the prisoners, on certain of the prisoners? ANo, never. QWritness, Amberger, who has testified, was a subordinate who exceeded his instructions and competency in talking about sterilization. Kaserer, you say, although on a higher level, also exceeded his competency in talking about sterilization. Yet, witness, y... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 865,800 | 866,300 |
hanged for committing sexual intercourse. Now, this is a copy of the transcript of the interrogation which I believe to be the one you have in mind. Will you please read from question 4 on page 1 through question 7 on page 2. AWhat page, please? QPage 1, beginning on page 1. AYes. QQuestion 4. MR. SHILLER:I am sorry, Y... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 866,250 | 866,750 |
he wishes to withdraw his charges. JUDGEO'CONNELL: But it seems to me that that is asking him to deny something on blanc. It isn't helpful to me, as a member of the Tribunal; I don't know how it is helpful to my colleagues. I would like to know what it is that he is alleged to have said on another occasion. THE PRESIDE... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 866,700 | 867,200 |
read it. Q.Will you please turn to page 6, witness, and look at questions 42 through 60? DR.SCHWARZ (Counsel for defendant Hoffmann): I object against the submission of this document, Your Honor. This is not a document, and you cannot make a certified copy of something like that. THE PRESIDENT:Well, he hasn't offered i... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 867,150 | 867,650 |
deny that this is a correct transcript? That is all I an asking you. Please answer yes or no. A.I deny that that is a correct transcript. If these threats are not contained in the minutes, then the minutes are not correct. MR. SHILLER:No further questions, your Honor... May I at this time, your Honor, offer this docume... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 867,600 | 868,100 |
was always conscious of the importance of the oath and of the fact that I am under oath here, and that I have to testify to the best of my knowledge and belief. Q.Is it correct that thereby you wanted to halp speed up the trial? A.The case-in-chief has been limited, and in this limited period of time I bad to carry out... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 868,050 | 868,550 |
And that is what I did. I requested that the laborers demanded by the Wuerttemberg factory be dispatched in some way that is to grant the labor requests. And I also added the remark that this factory was an enterprise which was managed in an exemplary manner and that this request could only be recommended. Only later d... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 868,500 | 869,000 |
had the housing facilities and their food, and then I think that nothing will happen." I think that Burkhardt rang me up again afterwards, and he urged the matter again to the same effect. And it is quite possible that then I said that it could be his responsibility, if, in spite of my orders, he could send these women... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 868,950 | 869,450 |
was that applied in practice during your whole period of office? A.It says here,"requests of expert nature have to be discussed directly in the offices subordinated to the RuSHA"; this order was derived from the practical experience. Q.Did you yourself carry out racial selections on persons suitable for re-Germanizatio... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 869,400 | 869,900 |
come back to this point we touched before. Were you questioned here in the affair of Petersdorf? A.Yes, an interrogator from Dachau was here who interrogated me twice, always during the few hours I had for my preparation of my defense normally. Q.What did that involve? A.Basically the question whether I passed the flie... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 869,850 | 870,350 |
that reason several of your people have already been hanged? A.Yes, that is correct. Q.You have already stated that that happened on the 19th of May, 1947. A.Yes. Q.Is it correct that the same interrogator charged you the next day with knowingly committing perjury? A.Yes, that is correct. Q.Did you object to that? A.I ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 870,300 | 870,800 |
took place in part on May 20th. What the witness pointed out to in his accusation of statements made by Attorney Schwenk took place on May 19th. MR. SHILLER:Well, Your Honor, it seemed to me that the witness had joined the statements as being charged with perjury and the threats of hanging together and the charge of pe... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 870,750 | 871,250 |
of the opinion that within the Defense of RuSHA it would be left to the individual Defense Counsel to fix the number of days among themselves. THE PRESIDENT:And you did not at that time insist that you have 5 1/2 days for your client? DR. FROESCHMANN:That might be possible that I said something of that kind, Your Honor... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 871,200 | 871,700 |
except for this insistence at the time on a division for each defendant in the RuSHA group. There is no such insistence as to any of the other groups, so I presume we understand each other now. Go ahead. DR.FROESCHMANN (for the defendant Hildebrandt): Your Honor, I figured out that the twelve and one-half days which th... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 871,650 | 872,150 |
resides at Arolsen near Kassel. I have four children in the ages ranging from 12 Years to 4 years Q.Please describe to the Tribunal your political career. A.In the year 1929 I joined the SA and consequently I also joined the NSDAP. This was the time which has been described here quite frequently. It was a time of econo... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 872,100 | 872,600 |
army reserve, because from 1935 until 1938, since I had been born in 1910, I had served previously in the army. QWhat did you do in the army and where were you stationed? AI was conscripted into the 95th infantry division. This 95th infantry division was established at Kammelburg, and I was assigned to the third battal... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 872,550 | 873,050 |
heading, "Thoughts About the Treatment of Aliens in the East," Were these two documents shown to you at the time? AI do have those two documents before me at this time. Neither at that time, in September 1940, nor at a later date until June or July or August of this year, did I ever see these documents. Only when the P... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 873,000 | 873,500 |
your studies, did you also deal with legal questions or only with historic questions? AI have already mentioned the subjects which I studied before. I did not occupy myself with questions of law. QIn what capacity were sent to Lodz? AI was sent to Lodz as a collaborator and as an assistant of the head of the agency at ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 873,450 | 873,950 |
family group. When this was prepared, a certain decision had to be made in this connection with regard to the labor assignment which was to be given to these people. Q.In the end, just what was decisive? A.The over-all impression which the entire family made was decisive. Q.Were other aspects also considered, besides t... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 873,900 | 874,400 |
of state measures in order to improve the selection, and I know them. I can think of the change in land reforms with the immigration laws for the USA in the year 1921 and 1924. Q.The witness Bach-Zelewski, who has appeared here, has testified, and I quote, that "all those persons were evacuated who either claimed that ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 874,350 | 874,850 |
accepted these measures and this discussion in a positive sense. I do not want to state that there was no opportunism involved as far as these people were concerned, because an indemnification of property was planned. However, the advantages which they received in pay and in treatment had such a strong effect on these ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 874,800 | 875,300 |
"Unclarified," the word "German" and the question mark is missing. I believe we shall discuss thim matter later on, and we can clarify it at that time. Q.I am now going to hand to you, from Document Book 4-B of the Prosecution, Exhibit No. 183 to 191. These are index cards of people who were eligible for re-Germanizati... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 875,250 | 875,750 |
card the names and the cards of all members of the family would be kept together? A.Not only that but the cards were arranged in quite a certain order. For all cards there was a certain envelope, and in this envelope would be contained exactly the same information as the cards, and in this envelope all cards belonging ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 875,700 | 876,200 |
worked in agriculture and 2 percent worked in households. However, I can also recall that in the trial of Military Tribunal 1, against Field Marshal Milch, one judge ascertained that before the middle of 1943 one cannot speak about a Slave Labor Program at all because every foreign worker who had the possibility and op... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 876,150 | 876,650 |
and police leaders from the west of the Elbe River. Then, an exception was made with regard to Berlin, Brandenburg and also the western part of the former SS sector Baltic which included Pomorania and Mecklenburg. Mecklenburg was included in the area to which people who were eligible for re-Germanization could be sent.... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 876,600 | 877,100 |
two envelopes and some stationery to take along. These envelopes bore stamps and they bore our address. These people were requested to write to us whenever something happened to them that they did not like. These are the letters which have already been mentioned here by the witness Spaarmann. In the course of the year ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 877,050 | 877,550 |
position was that the people who were eligible for re-Germanization would receive the Nansen passports, the Nansen passport which was used for foreigners. In order to issue these passports, a special official of the police president of Lodz worked in the field office. These passports were also signed by the official at... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 877,500 | 878,000 |
decree I made the acquaintance of only here. The decree is dated 19 February 1942, and during that period I had no activity in that field of tasks. QIn this connection, witness, I would like to ask you did you know Himmler's speech at Bad Schachen, the speech which has been submitted by the Prosecution as DocumentL-70,... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 877,950 | 878,450 |
a point that at that time an intervention of my office--that is, of the offices of the RuSHA--was no longer possible. Therefore, if I should summarize my answer to your question, during my period of activity at Lodz we had no activities in the Government General. QIn the documents in Document Book VII of the Prosecutio... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 878,400 | 878,900 |
the racial office; and 18 with the RuS leaders of the SS main sections; an over-all figure-I mean, this is a maximum now-of 75 examiners working at the same time. QOut of this figure, weren't there a certain number of people who were only auxiliary examiners. AYes, there were a great number of auxiliary examiners, and ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 878,850 | 879,350 |
the activity of the examiners was quite clearly defined and quite clearly ordered. QNow, didn't the RuSHA have a decisive influence over the EWZ, or was the work done independently? AI have to answer this question in the negative for the period I am familiar with, that is, the period from October 1940 until the end of ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 879,300 | 879,800 |
nationality out of opportunism. Q.Witness, if I understood you correctly, the screening did not promote Germanizing, but, on the contrary, it prevented Germanizing of such parts of the population who were not really of German descent. A.Yes, you may well put it that way. Q.Couldn't you give us a precise example for tha... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 879,750 | 880,250 |
question with which I was approached here proved to be nonsensical when it was checked closer. Q.Will you please look at DocumentNO-1397, Exhibit 311, and also look at the note at the end of the document? Why did you prevent the mailing of this document at the time? A.I remember that matter quite well, The letter was d... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 880,200 | 880,700 |
them. Q.The Prosecution have submitted a certain number of documents about an action concerning ethnic Germans in the Government General, and also particularly in Northern France, what do you know from your own knowledge concerning that matter? A.From my own knowledge I don't know any more about it than can be. seen fr... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 880,650 | 881,150 |
ethnic Germany of Northern France. Witness, had you known this document before this trial? A.This document is a copy of a letter of the chief of the EWZ, dated 25 March 1941. It was not known to me and I don't remember either that I have seen excerpts of it. Q.Were you in any way connected with the screening or checkin... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 881,100 | 881,600 |
this agency? A.The RuSHA in this connection had very clearly established terms. Any agency which was called "Field Agency," by this very term shows that they have to cover a well-defined field; namely, the field of questions in the state sector; in other words, field agency RuSHA at Lodz: RKFDV; field agency Bohemia an... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 881,550 | 882,050 |
the district councillors, the government-president, the senior governmentpresident, and down it would go through the same channels. In the towns that were not part of a district, the district councillor was replaced by the Lord Mayor. All these agencies dealing with the DVL were agencies of the internal administration.... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 882,000 | 882,500 |
a while ago you said that at the beginning of October 1941 you were drafted into the armed forces. You were wounded. And in the spring of 1943, you vie re still in the hospital. When were you put into an office again and where? A.I was released from the hospital with the mention that I was fit for work in the home coun... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 882,450 | 882,950 |
from that, this staff leader until 1937 -- maybe the change was even later, possibly 1938, but I don't know that exactly -had the offices and the office chiefs under his authority. And this arrangement had completely vanished now, and therefore the building up of the staff leadership beginning with Rautenfeld in 1942 a... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 882,900 | 883,400 |
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