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these members of the resettlement office receive such honorary ranks? A.In the agreement with the Soviet Union, the Soviet Union had insisted that members of the resettlement command appeared in uniform and performed their service in uniform. For this reason, members of the resettlement office who did not belong to the... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 793,350 | 793,850 |
have to pay membership dues as a temporary member? A.No, he did not. Q.Did Brueckner ever perform service in the SS? Or was he obliged to? A.No, no. All members of the Vomi which belonged to the SS temporarily did not have to perform any service in the SS at any time. Q.Did he attend SS leadership schools? A.No. Q.Did ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 793,800 | 794,300 |
Q.Did Brueckner have anything to do at all with the deportations from Alsace, Lorraine, and France? A.No. It is the same as in Luxembourg. Brueckner again had nothing to do with it. Q.Witness, you said that Brueckner was in charge of Office VI. Do you know when that took place? A.The beginning of '43. Q.Can you tell me... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 794,250 | 794,750 |
AYes, it was a very cross contradiction of Himmler's opinion. This difference of opinion led to Brueckner being warned by the Reich Security Main Office. The Reich Security Main Office, as far as I remember, informed the VOMI in 1944 that these opinions of Brueckner, which deviated from the opinions of the Reichsfuehre... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 794,700 | 795,200 |
listened to foreign broadcasts, so that you could inform the Gestapo? ANo, I can't remember. QWitness, will you please look at DocumentNO-5060, which I now offer for identification as Prosecution Exhibit No.835? Is this signed by you, witness? AYes. MR. SHILLER:Thank you. The Prosecution has no further questions. REDIR... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 795,150 | 795,650 |
can even remember that he compained bitterly to me about the fact that the VOMI did not want to provide billetting accommodations in time. QDo I understand you to refer to camp space for accommodating the Slovenes in the Reich? AYes, the Slovenes who were in the camps were to be taken to the Reich and to be accommodate... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 795,600 | 796,100 |
figures. However, I was there on several occasions and I should say about two to three times. QWho was in charge of that camp? AAn SS Unterfuehrer whose name I do not recall. QDo you remember the name of anybody who was connected with that camp? 23 Dec 1947_M_MSD_10_3_Fox (Horn) AOf the people who were working in the c... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 796,050 | 796,550 |
you and prepared this affidavit was Mr. Herbert Meyer, is that correct? AYes. QWhen Mr. Meyer interrogated you and when the affidavit had been reduced to writing, did he or did he not furnish you with the affidavit as it had been reduced to writing before you signed it? AYes, I saw the first copy and I refused to sign ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 796,500 | 797,000 |
it correct to say that this order was classified as top secret? AAs far as I remember, yes, therfore I could not possibly have known it. QHow can you possibly speak about matters of bandits or partisans who happened to be in St. Veit, if you do not and could not have known anything about partisans? AI did not have an a... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 796,950 | 797,450 |
Slovene, and most of the children were of school age, most of them talked German because their schools were conducted in German. QDid Frau Viermatz make any binding promises to me, and I know of no promises that she might have made to Obersteiner. QWere children from the camp later on transferred and transported to the... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 797,400 | 797,900 |
Lebensborn; and as far as I know, at any rate, Obersteiner never told me that he had any orders of this kind. Q.And in other words you did not examine them at all and not even from racial viewpoints? A.No, I never selected children for any organization. Q.Do you know whether the Lebensborn received or took over childre... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 797,850 | 798,350 |
Tribunal now if the Tribunal so wishes. THE PRESIDENT:With reference to your future witnesses, I don't know what the score will be about that. We must have some orderly procedure and proceed along with the case. If they do show up, all I can tell you is what I told the other counsel who have made the same request: we w... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 798,300 | 798,800 |
Now, I pass to Volume II and offer from it Document 11 as Exhibit 29 . Excerpts from the Hague Convention on Land Warfare. Document 12, as Exhibit 30, excerpts from the Geneva Convention. Document 13, as Exhibit 31, extracts from Manual for Courts-Martial, U.S. Army. Document 47 as Exhibit 32 , Extracts from Survey on ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 798,750 | 799,250 |
for the defen dant, called for the defendant Brueckner. His examination will take about three-quarters of an hour, and then I have another witness for the defendant Brueckner and that examination will take fifteen minutes. These are free witnesses. THE PRESIDENT:Very well. The only thing I want to caution you about is ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 799,200 | 799,700 |
work? A.Herr Brueckner said that the term which the VDA, racial protection work, was ambiguous, and that we in Office VI were only concerned with welfare and care for ethnic Germans and had nothing to do with aliens. Q.How many complaints did your department get per month, approximately? A.At the beginning about three ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 799,650 | 800,150 |
stress on the Nordic race. He said to look after one's heritage had nothing to do with racial questions. He told us to look after these people as a reality QAt the morning discussions did you ever hear anything about deportation? AYes, Brueckner reported about deportations from, I think, Alsace, and condemned them, as ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 800,100 | 800,600 |
with Poles? AYes. QWhat did he say? AFrom his basic attitude and his experience of racial work he very strongly disapproved of such measures. QDid Office VI or Brueckner have anything to do at all with such matters that we have just been discussing? ANo. QWhy did he discuss anything of the kind at the morning discussio... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 800,550 | 801,050 |
head of Office VI, order you to destroy documents on the collapse, or what did he do? ANo, on the contrary all our documents, including the secret documents and whatever else we had, card indexes, etc., had to be carefully packed. Nothing was allowed to be destroyed. QDid you stick to this or did you destroy documents?... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 801,000 | 801,500 |
told that I could leave. DR. DOETZER:Thank you. No further questions. THE PRESIDENT:Let the witness retire from the stand. Whom will you call next? WILLIPURM, a witness, took the stand and testified as follows? THE PRESIDENT:The witness will raise his right hand and repeat after me. I swear by God the Almighty and Omni... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 801,450 | 801,950 |
to the problem of the Slavs who had been inGermany for centuries now? AYes, I remember a conversation in which he disapproved of the Slovenes who by descent are Slavs. He disapproved that the German authorities treated them as Germans and were trying to Germanize them. although they were of Slav descent they were outwa... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 801,900 | 802,400 |
offer it as Brueckner exhibit number 1. My document number 2 is an affidavit by Paul Eilers. I offer it as Brueckner exhibit number 2. My document number 3, an affidavit by von Mahlsen-Ponickau, I offer as exhibit number 3. My document number 4, affidavit by Hans Preusse, I offer as Brueckner exhibit 4. My document num... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 802,350 | 802,850 |
be by the Tribunal ordered to become a part of the record in the case. Court No. I, Case No. VIII. Now, this ruling or announcement of the Tribunal I hope that the defense counsel who are present will see is conveyed to each member of defense counsel. When we adjourn today there will be twelve days before the court con... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 802,800 | 803,300 |
will in no manner take up more than ten minutes. THE PRESIDENT:Very well. We have not really passed from this group of defendants; we will permit that. DR. SCHUBERT:Thank you. THE PRESIDENT:Let the witness come to the stand. FRIEDRICHFABRICIUS, a witness, took the stand and testified as follows: BY THE PRESIDENT:The wi... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 803,250 | 803,750 |
that. Q.Do you know that amongst these people who were conscripted there was a large number of people who also had been naturalized ? A.Yes, I knew about that. Q.Do you also know that Lorenz always placed emphasis on the fact that the ethnic Germans abroad should not be forced into conscription or for resettling? A.Yes... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 803,700 | 804,200 |
the deputy chief of the Settlement Office? A.I was the deputy chief on a temporary basis approximately from 1942 until 1944. QDid you have previous training in these matters? AYes, I did. I was a professional agricultural expert, and I myself for five years worked in Canada and for five years I was an expert with priva... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 804,150 | 804,650 |
AYes, that is correct. QWhat was the activity of the Settlement Office prior to 1939? Did it take part in any settlement measures? AThe settlement office had participated in settlement measures which took place in Germany. The Settlement Office wanted to extend the very strict limitations enforced by the German Settlem... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 804,600 | 805,100 |
AThe stamp at the right hand corner is the one which was customarily used in the Race and Settlement Office. On the left, in the first square on the left-hand upper corner the post office passed on this letter to the Settlement Office. On the right-hand upper corner is the initial of Herr Franke. The mark on the left o... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 805,050 | 805,550 |
turned over to district peasant cooperatives, and further to the estate administrators, and, in part, jobs were also found for them with the economic inspectorates and with the military administrators in the rear army areas. Furthermore, some jobs were found for them with the High SS and Police leaders and the SS econo... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 805,500 | 806,000 |
people who had a war disability. Did the Settlement Office only deal With people with war disabilities? A.Yes, for the most part. A small percentage of people who were 4F and who were not fit for military service were given jobs in agriculture, partly because they were too old. Q.Did the defendant Hofmann have the auth... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 805,950 | 806,450 |
by the Settlement Office, but by the competent authorities. In the Government General, things were handled in a similar manner like in Western Europe. Here these enterprises which were owned by the state and other agricultural properties which did not have any administrators were administered by the real estate adminis... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 806,400 | 806,900 |
was a Latvian-Estonian and Lithuanian self-administration, and there was also a German administration. QHow many people did you actually send there and, first of all, how many did you send to the SS economists? AIn my estimation, altogether approximately 120 to 150 men were sent to the SS economists. QDid these people,... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 806,850 | 807,350 |
is to say, the pay corresponding to the rank which they held in the army, and in the Government General, the real estate administer their estates individually and independently. Employment contracts were concluded with the clause that the men would remain members of military units and that at any time they could break ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 807,300 | 807,800 |
the Reichsfuehrer-SS regulates the assignment of members of the WaffenSS. (Hands document to witness.) From your knowledge of the conditions there, can you tell us what members of the Waffen SS this orders refers to? AThis decree only refers to members of the Waffen SS who could not be used for wartime service. QWhy wa... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 807,750 | 808,250 |
on the occasion of that meeting? AI can put that in two different points. The enterprise, which was operated on an exemplary basis, was exhibited; and secondly in the form of a lecture the plan of how the young men with war-incurred disabilities should be given agricultural training there was developed. THE PRESIDENT:T... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 808,200 | 808,700 |
beds. In the Krevin there were fifteen beds, and in Katischi about fourteen beds. QThen they were not actually camps, but they were bases? AWell, base might be a better expression than camp. QI would now like to have you express an opinion on two documents which treat the settlement of members of the SS. It is in contr... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 808,650 | 809,150 |
were the practical consequences of this order? AThe actual result was that now questions or other information which was requested was directed to the settlement office or the Race and Settlement Main Office. Now this whole complex of questions was centralized and there was created a central agency from which they were ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 809,100 | 809,600 |
of the settlement of peasants and artisans refers exlcusively to the General-SS and to the WaffenSS. This means that the settlement office was the only representative of the interests of the General-SS and the Waffen-SS in connection with settlement towards the Reichskommissar for the Strengthening of Germanism. QIn th... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 809,550 | 810,050 |
offices. However, against this the settlement office, of course, objected very strongly, for the same conditions would have prevailed which were prevalent before these regulations concerning the central assignement and the central registration. QThe membership of these men with the settlement office was on a theoretica... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 810,000 | 810,500 |
Germanism or its staff main office. I had visited Hiege at that time in order to discuss with him the implementation regulations 14/4 and 15/3 as a representative of the interests of the General SS and Wafen SS. For this reason I went to Herr Hiege into the Reigh Ministry for Food and Agriculture. He was partly in his ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 810,450 | 810,950 |
administered by men who were put in there through the intermediaries of the Settlement Office, and those enterprises which were directly administered by the Civil Administration or other agencies. Thus the expression "our own enterprises" was created by laymen. Q.What was Hofmann -- an expert? A.No. Q.Was he an agricul... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 810,900 | 811,400 |
it became clear that it was not feasible to send these young war disabled people without arms into these territories. There ware more and more cases in which the farms which ware lying far apart were attacked by striving enemy military units or by partisan forces, or sometimes by pure looters these young men were attac... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 811,350 | 811,850 |
was the purpose of this journey. Q.The trouble that is mentioned there probably referred to this? A.Yes. Q.What then was the actual result of this discussion with Vogel? A.The result of this conference with Vogel was an agreement between the WVHA and the Race and Settlement Main Office concerning the various competenci... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 811,800 | 812,300 |
he ordered to that position? A.Yes. Q.Who then took over these farms? A.From a technical point of view, they were taken over by the man who was actually managing it. That, of course, has nothing to do with the actual taking possession of this farm, but that farm was taken over from an economic point of view. Q.These me... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 812,250 | 812,750 |
experienced agricultural experts, but, as far as I can remember, the enterprises were never used by the Police. Q.Is it correct that the Race and Settlement Main Office in the Government General did not possess any police bases? A.Yes, that is correct. Q.Now, in connection with these bases, I would like to show you an ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 812,700 | 813,200 |
it either. Q.The prosecution has charged the defendant Hofmann with having administered estates in the East of a size of more than 600,000 hectars. As evidence for this the prosecution has submitted a letter from Hofmann to Bergmann. This is Exhibit 649 in Document Book XIV-C. I now want to ask you whether the figure w... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 813,150 | 813,650 |
A.No, it did not. After all, in any case, it was only intended in case of a demobilization of the army. Q.Witness, you stated that the Settlement Office did not operate its own enterprises in Russia. I now would like to put to you a document from which something quite different could become evident. This is Exhibit 652... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 813,600 | 814,100 |
render his accounts to the WVHA. Q.Did this farm already exist at the time of Hoffmann? A.No; the matter was only brought about at the beginning of 1944. Q.I now come to the balance. For what reasons was this balance rendered? A.At the time the balance was made out I was with the troop unit. However, I assume that sinc... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 814,050 | 814,550 |
A.Yes. Q.On page 5, you will find a list about the horses which were rented out by the Settlement Office. What sort of horses does this refer to? Did they belong to the Settlement Office? A.No, these are horses which were taken back from Russia. Farmers would bring horses hack in the convoys. These horses belonged to t... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 814,500 | 815,000 |
the author of the memorandum any more. However, I have stated before that it was a special edition of an article "Neues Bauerntum" -- New Peasantry. Q.What did this edition deal with? A.As far as I can recall, it dealt with the planning of the future villages and districts, of rural communities, and the new agricultura... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 814,950 | 815,450 |
Settlement Main Office, so far as their military assignments were concerned, were now transferred to the WVHA. Q.Is it therefore correct if I ask you that the agreement only signified a clarification of personnel conditions? Is that correct? A.Yes, it is. Q.Did the agreement in any way have any influence on the ownersh... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 815,400 | 815,900 |
for White Ruthenia, is that correct? A.No, Schill was the Race and Settlement leader for the Ukraine. For White Ruthenia, within the scope of the SS and Police leadership, Bux was competent, and Schill's successor in the Ukraine was Bux. Q.Witness, at the time of this report, where was Schill, the RUS leader? A.In the ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 815,850 | 816,350 |
exceeded his authority? AI stated before that Schill had certain bad habits. THE PRESIDENT:What he said was he got drunk. THE WITNESS:In his case it was not so much the alcohol but he was just too ambitious. He had megalomania. THE PRESIDENT:All right, go ahead. DR. SCHWARZ:I have completed my examination, Your Honor. ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 816,300 | 816,800 |
at the most. QPlease remember this brief pause. Did you yourself transact business independently? AYes. QWith what agencies? AWith the labor offices, with the plant administration, with the families who were eligible for reGermanization themselves and with the other agencies which were needed to take care of the famili... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 816,750 | 817,250 |
the treatment of Group 4 of the German People's List, the DVL. This is Document 112, Exhibit 796. This document was presented individually by the Prosecution. Would you please take a look at this document and tell me whether you received an order to this effect with contents agreeing with the document before you? AAt m... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 817,200 | 817,700 |
was possible they were given work according to their previous professions. QCan you give us a few examples for that? AYes, I can give you various examples. I am going to name to you now, for example, three physicians, the Alsatian physician, Dr. Adloff, who in Stuttgart-Zuffenhausen opened a very large practice, and he... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 817,650 | 818,150 |
Schelklingen by us for the time being. In the camp Schelklingen we also employed various families of Alsatians. Here I want to mention the Garnier family who operated the big garden plant in the camp at Schelklingen. Then I want to mention the family Hatte who were in charge of the furniture depot, and he was even auth... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 818,100 | 818,600 |
of Wuerttemberg-Baden. QWere you allowed to do that directly? AI had to circumvent official channels. QCan you give us any examples for that? ARelatives who were still living in Alsace and who had families in Breslau established contact with plant managers at Baden and asked them to establish contact with us in order t... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 818,550 | 819,050 |
legal position or status of the Alsatians in your area? AThe Alsatians would arrive with a German identification card bearing the statement that they were Alsatians. QHow was the nationality which was revokable given to these people? ALater on this was dealt with a Reich law, and the order was issued that the deported ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 819,000 | 819,500 |
various paragraphs whether these orders were carried out in the scope of Hofmann's activity? Will you please look at paragraph 6? According to this, Alsatians were to be subjected to a racial examination when they were to be used in the reincorporated eastern territories. Did this actually take place in your area? A.In... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 819,450 | 819,950 |
and was only used as a home for the aged. Q.Did the defendant Hofmann visit this camp also? A.I myself was there twice with Hofmann and I know that he visited there occasionally apart from these two occasions. Q.How did the Alsatians' attitude strike you with regard to him? A.The Alsatians were completely natural in th... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 819,900 | 820,400 |
This is Exhibit 275 in Document Book V-F. Please turn to page 7. According to paragraph 5 of this document the personal possessions of the deported Alsatians were subject to the same provisions as that of the Group #4 of the Peoples List. The DVL. In your area was this handled in this way? THE PRESIDENT:What is that do... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 820,350 | 820,850 |
never heard about anyone using force. The competent directives and regulations always required volunteering for otherwise the purpose of re-Germanization would have had no sense. Q.What do you understand by the purpose of re-Germanization? A.One wanted to win over these people for Germany and, of course, one could not ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 820,800 | 821,300 |
I can, therefore, say with certainty that these people in many cases in relation to Reich Germans were accommodated and paid on exactly the same scale as Reich Germans. I must say that, of course, the same output of work was asked for as that of the Reich Germans. QThe Reich Germans had certain social privileges. Did t... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 821,250 | 821,750 |
date be assigned to work, of course it was wartime and we needed the manpower. QDid the employers also complain in some cases? AYes, In some cases employers raised complaint because those eligible for re-Germanization had more privileges than the Reich German laborers. QNow during the war there were restrictions with r... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 821,700 | 822,200 |
to be sent into this area. They applied voluntarily. QDid they also come there? AYes, they came there. QWhat were the reasons for this volunteering for this work? AAs Dongus assured me, they knew that they could earn good money and that they were treated well in our area. QWere there also cases in which Poles and easte... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 822,150 | 822,650 |
were employed. Q.Can you give us the total figure of people who reported to you? A.I believe that this figure was between 300 and 400. These people reported to me for re-Germanization. Q.What steps did you take upon that? A.We registered these people and a report was passed on to the field office at Lodz. From there th... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 822,600 | 823,100 |
were usually needed. Q.The Prosecution has further charged Hofmann with having participated in the Germanization of children. In this connection I am going to put to you three documents from Document Book IV-D. These are individual cases which occurred within your territory. You find a note there and these are Exhibits... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 823,050 | 823,550 |
mother, other members of the family? AThe family were settled as a whole and in no case did it happen that we separated children from their families. QWhat went with this particular family is what I want to know? Do you know where this father and this mother were located? AUnfortunately, I cannot give you any details a... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 823,500 | 824,000 |
also have female domestic workers who were eligible for Germanization? AYes. QWhat was decisive for the re-Germanization of these domestic workers? What regulations applied for them? AIn general, we would comply with the report from the Labor Office according to which the girls were to be used in households with many c... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 823,950 | 824,450 |
BY THE PRESIDENT: Q.What was eventually done with a family like that? A.I didn't quite understand your question. Q.Well, you say when you found a family that was not fit for reGermanization that you resorted that to the Main Staff Office and the reasons. Now, what became of the family? A.The family remained in Germany.... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 824,400 | 824,900 |
Book 4-G. According to this letter a security police supervision is to be carried out over these people who were eligible for reGermanization. Thissupervision is to be carried out by the inspector of the Security Police. Was such a, security police supervision actually carried out? A.I have emphasized in my last answer... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 824,850 | 825,350 |
examples for that? A.I can give you several examples. I want to mention to you Dr. Hans Winterhalder who formerly had been an attorney in Marburg on the Drau and I appointed him deputy Landrat in the district of Rottweil on the Neckar River and he lived at Goethestrasse 16. I further want to mention to you Flawda Fuchs... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 825,300 | 825,800 |
case of slave labor. A.I do not know of any case of slave labor. All the people were given regular work and they were all treated just like National Germans and they were paid for their work just like all other Germans. Q.Thank you, witness; I have no further questions. BY DR. VON DER TRENCK (for the defendant Greifelt... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 825,750 | 826,250 |
informed about what happened in Alsace-Lorraine. I can't say anything about it. QMay I briefly clarify about the following: A while ago you spoke about persons who were taken out of the re-Germanization procedure and who were subordinated to the Labor Office. To whom were the Labor Offices subordinated? To what Adminis... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 826,200 | 826,700 |
anything derogatory about the VOMI camps. QYou then made an additional statement about the re-Germanization procedure which was applied to Poles. Did VOMI have anything to do with the re-Germanization of Poles? AI don't know whether VOMI plaued any part in the re-Germanization of Poles. DR. HESS:Thank you. I have no fu... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 826,650 | 827,150 |
examined by the RUS leader in the area? AThese men were subjected to a racial examination. QAnd the results were submitted to the Higher SS and Police Leader, were they not? AI con(t know just how the exact procedure was carried out, and that is why I do not want to make any statements about it. QWitness, you have stat... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 827,100 | 827,600 |
kind deeds? AI acted contrary to the orders of Gauleiter Wagner. QWitness, did the defendant Hoffmann know that you were going contrary to these orders? AIn many cases, Hoffmann was informed of it. I frequently talked to Hoffmann about particularly outstanding cases where Gauleiter Wagner had expelled women from Alsace... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 827,550 | 828,050 |
slightly more limited. I don't know that exactly. Further more, there was a prerequisite that they were then quartered in general camps. Q.These few cases in which persons were taken out from the reGermanization proceedings, do you remember them; can you give us their names? A.No, I cannot remember any names; Polish na... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 828,000 | 828,500 |
speak the pure truth and will withhold and add nothing. (The witness repeated the oath.) Proceed with the examination. DIRECT EXAMINATION BY DR. SCHWARZ: (Attorney for the Defendant Hofmann.) Q.Herr Hofmann, will you please tell the Tribunal your full name? A.My name is Otto Hofmann. Q.Will you please, in short, give y... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 828,450 | 828,950 |
QHerr Hofmann, do you wish to say with that that in contrast to many other people who became members of the party and the SS for egotistical reasons, that you considered in the first place the need of your contry and the danger of communism? AYes, that is correct. QWhat was your further career in the SS. Will you pleas... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 828,900 | 829,400 |
SS were to be interested in the agricultural settlement; one was also to work against the getting away from the land. QWhat were your further duties? AThe RuS leader had to take care of the life within the framework of the Standarten, the regiments of the SS, and according to his qualifications and talents, he took an ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 829,350 | 829,850 |
that during a flight from Berlin to Lodz I observed how he was looking through the engagement and marriage applications and later on he said to me that this was almost a rest from his whole duties, this examination of the applications. QWe shall come back to this special point later on in the dealing with Point 14 of t... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 829,800 | 830,300 |
up to then the collaborator of Dr. Carl. QWhat were the duties and tasks of the Race Office? AThe essential and practical duties of the Race Office consisted of the training of examiners. On account of constant new formulation of the Waffen SS units the replacement offices were constantly increased. Of course, for each... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 830,250 | 830,750 |
He is now a Russian prisoner. The Settlement Office was put under the agricultural expert Thole who, however, was conscripted into the Waffen SS and he was replaced by his deputy Tesseraux. Beyond that the duties of the Race and Settlement Main Office can be seen from the report which I made on 6 November 1941. QI am n... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 830,700 | 831,200 |
these orders. QI am now showing you a document - that is Exhibit 24, in Document Book II-B: This is the decree dated 28 November 1941. Does this not contradict the statement that you have just made? AYes, this document mentions that the Race and Settlement Main office is an advisory office. QIt says that in actual word... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 831,150 | 831,650 |
to note this as my Exhibit 1. I shall later submit it finally when the translation will have been made. According to your opinion, were the other reasons justified too? ADefinitely not. There were intrigues against me. Himmler's behavior towards me was never especially cordial. There was also no personal contact betwee... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 831,600 | 832,100 |
All the mere I could then take care of supervising the air raid precautions that had been provided for. That was necessary since, in the spring of 1943, the war by air took on very serious proportions. Beyond that the agencies that were subordinated to me -- the agencies of the various main offices -- got their instruc... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 832,050 | 832,550 |
to submit officially this document at a later time. Q.What were your other duties as Higher SS and Police Leader? A.I was leader of the main district of the General SS and besides that I was representative of the Reich Commissioners for the Strengthening of Germany, RKFDV, for Wuertemberg and deputy representative of t... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 832,500 | 833,000 |
of PW affairs? A.Well, I believe that I can say that I was very concerned with the fate of the prisoners of war. I already said that I myself had been a prisoner of war and that I have been treated very well there. I went repeatedly to the various camps. I talked in the various camps to the various elected representati... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 832,950 | 833,450 |
from this letter that you were talking about? A.Yes. DR. SCHWARZ:I would like to have this document noted as Exhibit Number 3, and I shall submit it when the translation has been done. I am now coming to a new point, and I would appreciate it if we would now have our recess. THE PRESIDENT:A very good suggestion. The Tr... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 833,400 | 833,900 |
finally offer them when my presentation of documents takes place. A.And 9 also. Q.And 9 also. - Herr Hofmann, the witness Panke has already testified here on the 29th of October 1947 about the competency of the Race and Settlement Main Office. In order to simplify matters, do you agree with the description he gave ? A.... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 833,850 | 834,350 |
also toward me made several statements as they were finally put down by Fehndrich in his paper "Der Menscheneinsatz". Q.For this purpose I am going to hand to you Document 19 from my document book and a description and I want to ask you whether this is the description which was made out by Fehndrich to which you have j... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 834,300 | 834,800 |
that mean? A.This letter was addressed to the Chief of the Field Office and it was of some importance, and that is why I submitted it to Panke, the Chief of the Race and Settlement Main Office, and as Chief of the Racial Office I initialed it. Q.Who drafted this document? A.Hauptsturmfuehrer Klinger worked it out. That... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 834,750 | 835,250 |
also collaborated in this selection? A.Amongst other agencies, the Minister of the Interior, in questions of naturalization. Q.When and how was the Field Office at Lodz finally established? A.Through the order of Himmler of the 9th of November 1940, according to which the Field Office at Lodz was to carry out the very ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 835,200 | 835,700 |
know, statistics were kept in the Field Office itself and then also for the H igher SS and Police Leaders and finally in the Main Staff Office. I cannot recall any statistics in the Race and Settlement Main Office. Q.Were people who were eligible for re-Germanization supposed to be accepted as members of the SS? A.No, ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 835,650 | 836,150 |
was established in the course of the year 1941. It was an agency which had personnel similar to that of the field office at Lodz, but it was under the Reich Protector of Bohemia and Moravia. It received its immediate instructions from the Reich Protector or from the Higher SS and Police Leader as the representative for... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 836,100 | 836,600 |
at the time of being in charge of taking care of the business of the racial office. The racial classification experts received their official orders generally and also in individual cases from agencies through which they worked. That is to say, from the EWZ, or the Replacement Office, or the Higher SS and Police Leader... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 836,550 | 837,050 |
however, it sometimes happened that Standartenfuehrer Schulz in some cases would submit these instructions to me because of reasons of authority. Q.Therefore, you did not see many of these instructions at all. A.No. Q.Did the racial office or the eugenic office, for example, have direct contact with other agencies outs... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 837,000 | 837,500 |
was an expert in the racial office; he was a very flexible man and he was ambitious up to a point, and who without any doubt repeatedly exceeded his authority. Q.I am now going to hand to you Document Book IV-C, the document can be found on page 91 of the German document book. A.Yes. Q.In general are the statements of ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 837,450 | 837,950 |
of the Race and Settlement Main Office participate as far as you know in the Germanization of children without parents? A.As far as such a participation occurred at all, I only heard about it here when the Prosecution put these things to me. That is why in my affidavit, Exhibit No. 58, I stated that I could not recall ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 837,900 | 838,400 |
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