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what you say may be true, but I think I am being relatively calm under the circumstances. Isn' t it true that they were testing this drug, making preliminary tests if this drug with which they seen hoped be bring protecting against phosgene gas and were they not testing the drug on the Russian Prisoner of War? THE WITN... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 990,000 | 990,500 |
of Tribunal II having requested that defendant Rudolf Brandt be excused from attendance before this Tribunal for the balance of this morning's session to serve as a witness before Tribunal II, it appearing to the Tribunal that the absence cf Rudolf Brandt at this time will not prejudice his case, the Tribunal directs t... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 990,450 | 990,950 |
without exception, all survived the phosgene posioning with a c.t. of 207 to 5400. There were no symptoms of pulmonary edema after intravenous protection, even with a c.t. of 2970. Only experiment no. 10 with a c.t. of 3960 caused pulmonary edema of the first degree, which was overcome without any therapy; and in exper... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 990,900 | 991,400 |
he received One control subject also survived his pulmonary edema; the second die" hours later, end the autopsy showed the characteristics of very serious pulmonary edema. Summary: The conclusions of the experiment are impaired by the varyim constitutions and the general poor state of nutrition and of physique of the e... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 991,350 | 991,850 |
which was under Experiment 15, a man identified with the initials "J. Rei," was killed as a result of these experiments. The same is true of experimental subject Number 35, second from the bottom of the page on Page 20. In experiment number 14, identifi by the initials A. Eck, the subject was also killed, as was the fo... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 991,800 | 992,300 |
I do not know what kinds of letters and.reports were received by all men who had offices in this big building. I did not read this report - the whole thing. Q.In suite of the fact that you were Chief of Brandt's office for Science and Research? A.I believe I have said this fop the second time now - the department for d... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 992,250 | 992,750 |
the photostatic copies which the Tribunal now has before it. These were received from French authorities. They were found in the apartment of Professor Bickenbach in the foldier of which there is a Photostatic copy here before the Tribunal. That is all we have. We do have letters and certificates showing where the docu... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 992,700 | 993,200 |
it shows first quite clearly that I was a little mistaken in the date. I spoke of summer. It was the 26th of August if you can call that summer and this is how it happened. We discussed twelve subjects. We, not I but one of my associates, selected which research assignments which affected. I can't remember to whom this... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 993,150 | 993,650 |
the document to Mr. Hardy and will he pass it up to the Tribunal, please? Now, Doctor, let's look at some of the research assignments on this document No.692, Prosecution Exhibit 457, for identification. We find your own name under #5. "#5 - University Clinic for Surgery Ziegelstrasse (Restock) - chemotherapy, penicill... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 993,600 | 994,100 |
That Circular#5 which I could not remember as I have said once before was not circular of name. It was a circular of the Reich Research Council and this chuck means that the works marked with this check were some applications to the planning office by the Military Research commission. Those checked and so on at the but... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 994,050 | 994,550 |
report did not come to me. I did not receive Karl Brandt letters. I did not open it. If we received such a report I assumed that passed it on to the persons concerned who w re consultants for this specif sphere. Q.Then yon confirm Karl Brandt's testimony that was a specialized question which he himself worked on and di... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 994,500 | 995,000 |
the course of time? AYes. QThe Prosecutor asked you about your position as Dean. You were Dean of the medical Faculty of the university cf Berlin. The Prosecutor also asked you about Professors Mrugowsky and Rose, also on the faculty cf the University of Berlin. From the fact that these men were Professors at the Unive... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 994,950 | 995,450 |
he did as a section chief and Vice President in the Robert Koch Institute, and what he did as consulting hygienist in the Luftwaffe had nothing to do with me as Dean, and Rose would probably have refused to let mu intervene, quite rightly. Mrugowsky was an instructor, and later extra ordinary Professor for Hygiene, and... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 995,400 | 995,900 |
would have resulted in a scandal, I think. In order to give a concrete example, I did not tell Mr. Gebhardt or Mr. ***cker to present their case histories before the meeting. That was not something we were concerned with. Whatever was spoken in those lectures was taken as a fact. All of us who sat down together afterwa... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 995,850 | 996,350 |
sentence that to a certain extent an excuse was made and people said, "yes, as far as data is available." AYes, that is correct too. Only these fields were selected where the data on the card index would fit into this dozen and a half fields, and what we have here is the result. QSo from this list one can conclude that... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 996,300 | 996,800 |
in a medical affair, but I am very clear vdien doint that that this is nothing but the shifting of the problem from myself to some other person. MR. McHANEY:We did not get the last question which was put by defense counsel. QI will repeat the question. In view of the fact that this is your personal conviction which you... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 996,750 | 997,250 |
occasional wounds during the first few years of the War brought no clarification on this question at all? AThat is true, no such clarification was gained? and I explained that during my lecture of 1942. QAt that time in that lecture you demanded that a basical research should be carried through; isn't it a fact though ... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 997,200 | 997,700 |
I think already testified to before noon with reference to Chemical therapeutical treatment and the surgical treatment with knife or scissors, or only chemical treatment. I said at that time that we were not sure if it were one or the other and finally we came to a conclusion, which is usual in life, that somewhere in ... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 997,650 | 998,150 |
hear any criticism of the handling of the Heydrick case on the gounds that they did net use enough sulfanilamide? ANo. QI have no further questions. DR. PRIBILLA:Mr. President, with the permission of the Tribunal, I should like now to call the witness, Hans Christensen to the witness stand. THE PRESIDENT:The Tribunal h... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 998,100 | 998,600 |
then, would the Chief of the OKV have had the authority to enter such an order, directive or determination? A.I don't believe so, for the Chief of OKA there were no concentration camps subordinated. He had no influence there at all; that is, from what I know of this organization. Q.Would the Chief of the OKH have had t... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 998,550 | 999,050 |
at this disposal I didn't thing about before. Now, of course I have thought about it. And, when thinking about this problem, I arrived at no solution either how scientifically one could solve that problem without coming into conflict with the penal judge. Here, during the trial, I heard that concentration camps were su... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 999,000 | 999,500 |
1943, returned to Berlin. I then worked as a medical assistant at the reserve hospital department and at the surgical polyclinic as well as a lecture assistant with Professor Rostock. Professor Rostock at that time gave me work to be which fell within his scope of scientific activity and that applied to many others of ... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 999,450 | 999,950 |
was the armed forces branches with their independent research agencies. Every one of those research groups had the aim to maintain their research field and to expand it as far as possible. On the other side, difficulties as they resulted from the way, that is to say, the scarcity of personnel and material played a big ... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 999,900 | 1,000,400 |
work, and other work was done in brain research work, and tissue culture. In connection with basic research, Professor Rostock endeavored to maintain high scholastic work in research. A further point was the maintenance of medical literature and the creation of an information periodical about medical literature that wa... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,000,350 | 1,000,850 |
were perhaps of the size of a postcard; and one card index box contained the date in alphabetical order of the research workers, whereas the second card index box contained the same research assignment but only according to the expert fields they belonged to. This entire card index system was here only for the purpose ... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,000,800 | 1,001,300 |
work were changed among us. QDuring that entire period you worked there, did you at any time see any event from which you could conclude that in any field anywhere in Germany inadmissible experiments were carried out on human beings? ANo. From the material which we received no such events became apparent in anyway. QWa... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,001,250 | 1,001,750 |
research assignments, assignments which were worked upon in the card index system? AFrom the various agencies we received certain lists about the research assignments which had already been distributed. These lists contained the following data: The name of the research workers, sometimes including the number of the ass... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,001,700 | 1,002,200 |
1944 by Professor Rostock. At this time Professor Rostock wanted to orient himself on the research assignments. It was not possible in any way, on the basis of this file, to increase research. From one's desk, even if one know what research assignments were being carried out at the time, one could no longer see where s... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,002,150 | 1,002,650 |
or was it a meeting of equals? ANo, as I said, the head of each individual research department told what points were especially important in his field. Professor Rostock spoke primarily about the work in the civilian sector and told what he considered particularly important. As far as I recall, there was an invitation ... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,002,600 | 1,003,100 |
indication who prepared the list. DR. PRIBILLA:Mr. President, I do not know whether it is important enough or if the Court would like to show the witness the original so that he can examine it. THE PRESIDENT:If the original is available it may be shown to the witness. (Witness is shown the original document.) BY DR. PR... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,003,050 | 1,003,550 |
the distribution shown by this chart is correct. During the time when Professor Rostock was at Beelitz a considerable part of his activity was always his work for the clinic and his scientific work. I can testify about this because we assistants were always used by him in his scientific work. QWitness, what activity di... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,003,500 | 1,004,000 |
he had any connection with criminal experiments on human beings? AI knew Professor Rostock only as an outstanding scientist and a good doctor. I knew him personally as a decent, clean, character. I can imagine Professor Rostock having any connection with anything of a criminal nature. Whoever knows Professor Rostock pe... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,003,950 | 1,004,450 |
I know from what Professor Rostock told us that he was completely opposed to interference in the work of a research worker. He told us assistants repeatedly that the supreme principle always had to be that any research work could to carried out freely. I do not believe, therefore, that he had the intention of interferr... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,004,400 | 1,004,900 |
discussions between the heads of the individual research Departments and Professor Rostock, using the card index which he already had. QNow, as I understand it there were 18 fields of research of the utmost importance, that is considered urgent, and Professor Rostock had received 650 orders for research in order to det... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,004,850 | 1,005,350 |
to got special protection and were not to suffer from the intended closing of research institutes which had been planned for the civilian sector. QNow, Doctor, did you ever receive reports on special research assignments, that is during the time you were in Rostock's office? AI mentioned the Reich office for Economic E... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,005,300 | 1,005,800 |
could they examine Top Military Secret Mail? AYes, depending on what field of work it was. I said before that all members of the office including the secretary worked on all the secret matters, as well as the rest of the mail. As far as they were civilians, they had to sign some sort of a pledge of complete secrecy in ... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,005,750 | 1,006,250 |
proceed. DR.PRIBILLA (Counsel for the Defendant Rostock): Mr. President, with the permission of the Tribunal. I should like to call the witness Maria Karlstetter to the stand. MARIA KARLSTETTER? a witness, took the stand and testified as follows: BY JUDGE SEBRING: QWill you repeat this oath after me: I swear by God, th... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,006,200 | 1,006,700 |
had to know the contents in order to know where to file the individual letters. Professor Rostock wanted me to know the contents because he relied on my memory. QDo your statements also refer to tho secret mail? AYes. QNow, in the correspondence which went through your hands did you ever find any indication that any ag... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,006,650 | 1,007,150 |
exp experiments were conducted. No concentration camp or prisoner was ever mentioned. *** is true of all the other correspondence too in the Office of Science and Research. Q.Do you believe, then, that it could be proved to the Tribunal if card index were here? A.Yes, that would no doubt be the simplest thing and the b... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,007,100 | 1,007,600 |
any connection with such experiments. Q.Witness, did you belong to the National Socialist Party? A.No. Q.Did Professor Rostock, in his official and unofficial conversation ever speak to you or the other personnel in a propagandistic way for National Socialism? A.No; Professor Restock never did that. The tone in the who... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,007,550 | 1,008,050 |
I ask that be corrected to number 5. THE PRESIDENT:The corrections, I think, have already been made. If they have not, they will be made. DR. PRIBILIA:I beg your pardon. The next document has the number Rostock 6, and I offer it as Exhibit No. 6, After Having had the witness Christensen here, who was the first and most... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,008,000 | 1,008,500 |
-- this the third assistant, Dr. Zettel of Aurich Ostfriesland. I offer this exhibit as a whole, but shall read only a few important sentences. Dr. Zettel says: "In the autumn of 1943 Professor Rostock asked me to assist him as well in his work with the Science and Research department under the General Commissioner for... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,008,450 | 1,008,950 |
be supported by any provable facts. "3. Finally, as to my statement in affidavit, Document No. 372, Exhibit 252, concerning. Lost experiments on human beings, that in March 1944, the Fuehrer ordered Professor Karl Brandt to promote medical research in connection with gas attacks, the conclusion cannot be drawn from thi... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,008,900 | 1,009,400 |
assignment but was carried out by the Medical Inspectorate itself on its own responsibility, si that no report was made to the Rostock Office about it, as none was necessary under the regulations. "The Medical Inspectorate of the Luftwaffe never receive any instructions or suggestions from the Rostock Office, for carry... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,009,350 | 1,009,850 |
and thereby all persons who worked which Rostock in the Office for Science and Research, I ask that the Tribunal permit me to hand in affidavits later. THE PRESIDENT:If the witnesses referred to by counsel are found and brought to Nuernberg, they will be sworn and testify before the case is closed. If the witnesses are... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,009,800 | 1,010,300 |
counsel will prepare the list of witnesses as soon as possible and serve it on the Prosecution. I would ask the Secretary General if he has any information as to when the document book on behalf of the defendant Schroeder will be prepared. The Tribunal is informed by the office of the Secretary General that document bo... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,010,250 | 1,010,750 |
medical officer there remained only three hundred approximately. In general there was an urge to leave because the prospects in civilian practice, specialized practice as well as general practice, were favorable. I myself tried to remain in the Army at the time because of the struggles going on in civilian practice, la... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,010,700 | 1,011,200 |
since I knew Hippke from my time as a student, my chief, Weldmann, considered me for this. And, in August 1935 I was transferred to the Luftwaffe and essentially I took over the same work which I had been doing in the Army Medical Inspectorate, that is, care of patients, hospitals, budgets, and now duties were added - ... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,011,150 | 1,011,650 |
of the medical profession. That, in addition to this care for the individual, we considered the community. That is true of the military medicine of oil countries. That is nothing new. And, in deliberate rejection of Professor Leibbrand's statement I must claim for us Wehrmacht physicians that we appropriated the eterna... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,011,600 | 1,012,100 |
because the air transports were of quite a special importance in cases where large distances and territories were involved. It further was the duty of the air fleet physician to be informed about the treatment of the patients and the status of the patients in the hospitals. Q.Were you always or for the most part with y... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,012,050 | 1,012,550 |
the Medical Service of the Luftwaffe indicates my position more correctly than it could be done with the title of Inspector. Q.Witness, will you now describe your field of tasks to the Tribunal as Medical Chief? A. My field of tasks was very extensive. First of all I will have to go back to the situation as it existed ... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,012,500 | 1,013,000 |
women. For these people training places had to be established in order to give them a short but intensive training, and in order to get thus acquainted with their new duties and tasks. This also required a lot of mobilization and quite a lot of work. A part of the work which also grew within that year was the air raid ... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,012,950 | 1,013,450 |
attention. I had the main task to withdraw everything in research which was not necessary for the War, and only to work on the research which was vitally necessary for us. QWitness, in describing this activity as Chief of the Medical Service, you mention that you had to travel around frequently; will you please tell us... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,013,400 | 1,013,900 |
He furthermore has to settle the whole interior functioning of the agency. For example, all mail is addressed to him as far as it does not have to go to the Registry Official and is then immediately sent to the individual sections. However, the important mail, above all, secret mail, is addressed to the Chief of Staff.... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,013,850 | 1,014,350 |
7 and 8 o'clock I received the reports about the damaqe which had been caused by air attacks. Then from them I could again see what had happened during the previous 24 hours and this information caused me to chance my entire daily program. Then the morninq passed while I reviewed the incoming mall and while I had discu... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,014,300 | 1,014,800 |
was located at Prague. The students of the Academy were distributed to these three training centers. Scientific institutes like, for example, the Army Academy were not connected with us. As a result of the war we had not been given this opportunity. He placed emphasis on the fact to leave the students between the semes... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,014,750 | 1,015,250 |
leading Party personalities. Q.Did you not understand my question? A.Yes, I said I did not have any contacts with loading personalities of the Party. Hitler, Himmler and Goebbels and Bormann I had never even seen during the war. I believe that I had to report to Hitler on one occasion in 1938, but not on any other occa... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,015,200 | 1,015,700 |
For myself and my subordinates I have always taken care to see that this instruction was complied with. A soldier can only serve his father-land, and not a party. Whenever he leaves this ground, then he gets on a very skimpy surface. During my later activity I have always repeatedly told my subordinates that they shoul... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,015,650 | 1,016,150 |
be carried out? A.No never. In the time when I was fleet physician I frequently discussed with Professor Handloser the establishment for the care of the wounded of all countries. And as medical physician I was, of course, interested, but I believe that just the apposite was my task -- to help all those who needed aid. ... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,016,100 | 1,016,600 |
in the American Army. For the same period of time I had the rank of Generalstansarzt. That, in the American Army, corresponds to the Major General of the American Army. That is to say, during that period of time I had the second highest army rank. We call the individual ranks official grades. The highest was Generalebe... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,016,550 | 1,017,050 |
believe that in the time between 1941 and 1943 I have seen him on two occasions, for a few hours. I believe that this was when I was at Berlin. I believe that it was not more than two times. Q.The Prosecution has accused you, supported by the fact that you were alleged to have been the second highest medical officer, i... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,017,000 | 1,017,500 |
* Capoe Grisnez. It has a bathing beach and some dunes from which one can get a very good view of the channel. In clear *** *er, one can see the English coast and the harbor of **v*r. One has a good view over the channel. That was the reason we set up a rescue station there. A second reason was that this district south... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,017,450 | 1,017,950 |
sea water experiments was Professor Heubener, written "eu", the profess or criminology at Berlin. They had nothing to do with each other. Heubener was a young fellow, and Heubener was a gentlemen of about 17 years experience and a ciminologist. QProfessor, you were also brought in connection with the sulfanilaide exper... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,017,900 | 1,018,400 |
you through with this point? AYes. QWitness, now, I shall show you the correspondence between Professor Haagen, Professor Gutzeit and Professor Kalk. That is Prosecutions' documents Nos. 124, 125 and 126 in the German Document Book, pages 11, 14 and 15; Nos. 193, 194 and 195, Prosecution exhibits pages 11, 13 and 14 of... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,018,350 | 1,018,850 |
such time we have the document book in our possession so we may object if necessary. THE PRESIDENT:Have you seen the English Document Book? MR. HARDY:We have not seen it at all. THE PRESIDENT:Counsel, you have reserved the right to offer this document at an appropriate later time, but as long as the Prosecution and the... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,018,800 | 1,019,300 |
give only very little work to many of them, with consideration of their civilian activity. I could assign only limited duties to them, so that I could keep them as associates. If I had put too high claims on such a consulting physician, demands might have come from the civilian side, and I might have had to give him up... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,019,250 | 1,019,750 |
officers, non-commissioned officers, men and patients at the hospital. On the other hand, however, he is at the same time the medical superior of all the medical officers and so forth in the hospital. He can, for example, give an order: Service in the hospital begins at eight in the morning. That is a military order. O... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,019,700 | 1,020,200 |
would not be free from guilt, because he had his duty. It is the task of the supervising medical officer to take adequate precautions, although he was of the opinion that the proper medical treatment was not be given, he did not worry about the matter; he let things take their course. He could be called to account too,... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,020,150 | 1,020,650 |
various possibilities. First, we might learn that some institute or other was working on things which interested us, or that the directors of the institute approached us and asked us for support in some field. Then we examined the matter and the heads of the institute made clear for costs or for personnel needed for th... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,020,600 | 1,021,100 |
brief application, and he received another sum for the next year, and that was how it was here. He got this money again. This explains why this research assignment was not shown to me. It was taken care of by my Chief of Staff. It was in his competency to take care of such current matters which were not anything new. T... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,021,050 | 1,021,550 |
world in general, the principles recognized by the scientific world in general. In experiments on human beings, one must differentiate three groups: First, experiments in which certain poisoned, disease, germs, are introduced into human beings. Then, experiments in which vaccines are introduced into the body. And, in t... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,021,500 | 1,022,000 |
on human beings are permissible? AYes. QHow do you imagine such experiments are carried out from your point of view? AOf course, such experiments are justified only if all conditions are fulfilled, that is to say if animal experiments, experiments on one's self, and experiments on a small scale have been exhausted, the... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,021,950 | 1,022,450 |
It was the thing, which I have mentioned before, one must take the plunge with chances and one sometimes has such experiences, but those must be borne in the interest of the community as a whole and do not bring any actual harm to the persons concerned. The second report is characteristic, because it pertains to the ty... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,022,400 | 1,022,900 |
and something in the nature of an interrogatory. I would like to point out that the prosecution will most certain object to that when it is offered. We think the witness should be brought here, she worked with Haagen and no doubt she has considerable knowledge of what he did. THE PRESIDENT:The Tribunal, of course, unde... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,022,850 | 1,023,350 |
in particular. It was a young pilot, who had been six days and seven nights on a raft in the Mediterranian. He was a student of Natural Science and he had taken a very critical attitude. He had observed his condition very well from his knowledge of biology. I spoke to him one or two days later in the hospital. When he ... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,023,300 | 1,023,800 |
letter scale, I might say, and with a very limited area space, this large amount of salt and this complicated filter I wondered whether that wasn't too voluminous for the sea emergency kit. That was an objection which I raised first. Schaefer told me that he would improve this process so that the proportion would not b... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,023,750 | 1,024,250 |
and other aromatic materials. The technical office had also initiated experiments on its own initiative. The engineer of the technical office would have developed a Berka process, and he was at the Technical High School of learning in Vienna, and he had carried out his work in the laboratory there, and he then contacte... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,024,200 | 1,024,700 |
even outside of Germany, was favorable toward adopting this. Thus, a situation had arisen for me which could not be answered with yes or no. For example, the possibility might have existed that for several days or a longer period of time the work could be produced and then the sea rescue equipment would have been combi... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,024,650 | 1,025,150 |
Dr. Schmidt, who at that time was Commander of the Medical Academy of the Luftwaffe, and I shall submit this affidavit, together with a document book "Schroeder." BY DR. MARX: Q.Witness, now that this possibility did not exist any more, what further steps did you take? A.I then turned to the hospital and in such cases ... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,025,100 | 1,025,600 |
tried to lodge this series of experimental persons at his hospital at Harbis but that failed also. Q.Witness, you have already described to us in very short sentence the situation that prevailed at the time and the situation which confront you. A.Yes, there were the big difficulties. That was a time of the general atta... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,025,550 | 1,026,050 |
soldiers and who perhaps should be given this opportunity so that they could volunteer for such an experiment for their former comrades, which in any case did not result in any damage their lives or their health. Furthermore, I told him at the time it was possible for us to obtain full aviation rations for that period ... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,026,000 | 1,026,500 |
such experiments it well depended on the person and I made a difference already in the discussion with regard to experiments with virus infected or some other bacteria or diseases, or experiments where the surroundings were changed - and our experiments belonged to the last category. If in the case the experimental sub... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,026,450 | 1,026,950 |
- I did not know any thing the composition or organization of these camps. It may sound strange for me to say that today but that is exactly the way it was. At the time wrote the letter - at the time I signed it - I did not know that any foreigners were confined to these camps. I was only informed about that after the ... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,026,900 | 1,027,400 |
to the kidneys, etc, and we have found nothing at all. But, in every case we were confronted by tho same picture when the person concerned had been rescued, when given fresh water, milk, or any other liquid - coffee, tea, or any other liquid connected with fresh water - the greatest amount of illness was already remove... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,027,350 | 1,027,850 |
about all the things achieved by the American Air Force and their conditions were not better than ours, There were two things: One was a fishing equipment. The idea was that the person adrift at sea in his rubber raft should catch fish and that these raw fish could be eaten and that the juices contained in them would a... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,027,800 | 1,028,300 |
and that the Schaefer Process was to be improved and adopted and that for aircraft such packages were to be issued. QDid you receive any report that physical damage had been done in the course of the experiments or even that fatalities occurred in connection with the experiments? AI was expressly informed of the fact t... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,028,250 | 1,028,750 |
that the defense counsel for Schroeder does not plan to burden the court with duplication of expert testimony. However, unless compelling reason is shown for again calling Schroeder to the stand after that testimony, I think I must interpose an objection to that procedure for the reason that if a precedent is set in th... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,028,700 | 1,029,200 |
more than a year? A.Yes. Q.When you asked for a furlough, did you need the permission of the Chief of the Wehrmacht Medical Service? A.No. Q.If you had violated any regulations, were you subject to the disciplinary authority of the Chief of the Wehrmacht Medical Service? A.No. The Chief of the Wehrmacht Medical Service... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,029,150 | 1,029,650 |
Medical Chiefs of the Wehrmacht branches, experienced in their duties, and that they had been active in the military medical field for decades -- in other words were qualified to work out t** problem together. Q.Well, did the Chief of the Wehrmacht Medical Service have an equal authority towards the other chiefs of the... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,029,600 | 1,030,100 |
for the Defendant Becker-Freyseng): Q.Witness, where and for how long have you known Dr. Becker-Freyseng? A.In 1938 I made his acquaintance when Becker-Freyseng entered the institute of Professor Stuckholt as collaborator. Q.Did you see him frequently during the war and did you have discuss with him? A.I beg your pardo... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,030,050 | 1,030,550 |
important open letters and the entire mail which was classified as Secret, went to the Chief of Staff, who marked the either for the individual section heads or, if it was an especially important matter, he would pass it on to me. The major part of the mail, however, ** went directly or through the Chief of staff to th... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,030,500 | 1,031,000 |
that in the draft of the letters the number of the referent could be seen who had dealt wiht the work, so that by later reference afterwards the person could be determined, and the referent who had worked out the communication. Q.That now was the responsibility of the referent. Now, you said that Becker-Freyseng. was a... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,030,950 | 1,031,450 |
an affidavit that Dr. Becker-Freyseng had been your only research consultant; can you please tell us something on that subject? A.That is probably not very **** way of expressing it. It actually was not the case. After the departure of Anthony, Becker-Freyseng was referent for aviation medicine. That means to say that ... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,031,400 | 1,031,900 |
of Haagen was what department? A.That was the department for hygiene, which was also located in the medical department. That is the department to which Becker-Freyseng belonged, and at that time Stabsarzt Atmer was in charge of it. Q.The Stabsarzt was the specialist for that field? A.Yes. Q.And the scientific questions... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,031,850 | 1,032,350 |
of course they were administered by departments which were frequently connected with these things, as there were other departments who only worked on these matters once or twice a year. For this reason all research assignments were dealt with by the Department for Aviation Medicine. Now when assignments in the field of... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,032,300 | 1,032,800 |
should be impossible to carry out a proving experiment, only then concentration camp inmates were to be used? AYes. QThe conditions for the experiments were to be the same in every case, regardless if they were with soldiers or if prisoners were concerned? ANaturally. QWell that is what you inferred about the participa... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,032,750 | 1,033,250 |
the individual according to his tendencies. QTherefore, today, you can likewise confirm the correctiveness of the testimony, which has been given by the Defendants Rostock and Handloser? AYes, that is the generally recognized clear task of the consulting physicians. And this also refers to the positions of Professor Ro... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,033,200 | 1,033,700 |
to combating epidemics, and that such articles had never appeared? A.Yes, at that time probably this powder had not yet been discovered. Q.Can you confirm that research was involved in this case which was of the utmost importance for the troops in combating epidemics? A.That is a research of the utmost importance. Q.Do... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,033,650 | 1,034,150 |
of the Luftwaffe; namely, the department for typhus therapy of the Luftwaffe at Ammerode? AYou mean malaria? QYes, I mean malaria. AYes, you can call it that probably, because this department for malaria therapy was, as far as I know of these happenings and that was before my time -- they were organized with personnel ... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,034,100 | 1,034,600 |
you can be quite certain it is correct. Then there was yet another institute which existed in the field of the Luftwaffe. It had a quite a similar title. That was the institute of Professor Struckholdt whom you have already mentioned quite a few times today. AThat was theAviation Medical Research Institute. QThat is co... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 1,034,550 | 1,035,050 |
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