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-I haven't. -Yes, you have. I have never in my life tried to make somebody be my friend more than I have tried for you. Please, if you can't be my friend, just please don't be my enemy.
- ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์  ์—†๋‹ค๋‹ˆ๊นŒ - ์žˆ์–ด, ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ๋‚ด ์นœ๊ตฌ๋กœ ๋งŒ๋“ค๋ ค๊ณ  ์ด๋งŒํผ ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•œ ์ ์ด ์—†์–ด ์ œ๋ฐœ ๋‚ด ์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ๋˜๊ธฐ ์‹ซ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋‚ด ์ ์ด ๋  ํ•„์š”๋Š” ์—†์ž–์•„
I really saw a different side of Taylor, where she was desperate for my friendship. -We're gonna be friends. -Okay. -And you just tell me-- -Pinky swear. -You tell me the truth. -Oh, my god. This is elementary school, I knew it.
์ €์™€ ์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ๋˜๋ ค ์• ๋ฅผ ์“ฐ๋Š” ํ…Œ์ผ๋Ÿฌ์—๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ฉด์„ ๋ดค์–ด์š” - ์นœ๊ตฌ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์ง€? - ์•Œ์•˜์–ด - ์ง„์‹ค์„ ๋งํ•ด ์ค˜ - ์†๊ฐ€๋ฝ ๊ฑธ๊ณ  ์•ฝ์†ํ•˜์ž - ์ง„์‹ค๋งŒ ๋งํ•˜๊ธฐ์•ผ - ๋ง™์†Œ์‚ฌ ์ดˆ๋“ฑํ•™์ƒ๋“ค์ด๋‹ˆ?
You guys have had these negative feelings towards each other for so long, and now all of a sudden, it's all finished? That's just weird. Wow. So, I want to go back to the tea party.
๋‘˜์ด ์„œ๋กœ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋ถ€์ •์ ์ธ ๊ฐ์ •์„ ์˜ค๋ž˜ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ ๊ฐ‘์ž๊ธฐ ํ•ด๊ฒฐ์ด๋ผ๊ณ ์š”? ํŠน์ดํ•ด์š” ํ‹ฐ ํŒŒํ‹ฐ๋กœ ๋Œ์•„๊ฐ€ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์‹ถ๊ตฐ์š”
Taylor, you said that Lisa had always treated you very poorly. How did you feel that she had treated you poorly? I did not understand Lisa's humor.
ํ…Œ์ผ๋Ÿฌ, ๋ฆฌ์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ํ•ญ์ƒ ํ˜•ํŽธ์—†์ด ๋Œ€ํ–ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ–ˆ์—ˆ์ฃ  ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋Œ€์šฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›์„ ๋•Œ ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์ด ์–ด๋• ๋‚˜์š”? ์ „ ๋ฆฌ์‚ฌ์˜ ์œ ๋จธ๋ฅผ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜์ง€ ๋ชปํ–ˆ์–ด์š”
The little things that she would say used to really bother me. You know, little digs, and I didn't see them as just British humor. I've never had British friends. I mean, I grew up in Oklahoma.
๋ฆฌ์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ์†Œํ•œ ๋ง๋“ค์ด ์ €์—๊ฒ ์ •๋ง ๋ถˆํŽธํ–ˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š” ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์˜๊ตญ์‹ ์œ ๋จธ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐ์ง€๋„ ์•Š์•˜๊ณ ์š” ์ „ ์˜๊ตญ ์นœ๊ตฌ๋„ ์—†์—ˆ๊ณ ์š” ์˜คํด๋ผํ˜ธ๋งˆ์—์„œ ์ž๋ž์œผ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š”
There are no British people there. It's a fact. And also, I'm a very insecure person, so when she would say things, it would just really hurt my feelings.
๊ทธ๊ณณ์—” ์˜๊ตญ์ธ์ด ์—†์—ˆ์–ด์š” ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ์š” ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ์ž์กด๊ฐ์ด ๋งค์šฐ ๋‚ฎ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด์—์š” ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋ฆฌ์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋–ค ๋ง์„ ํ•˜๋ฉด ์ „ ๋งŽ์€ ์ƒ์ฒ˜๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›์•˜์ฃ 
And a lot of it was my own insecurity, and her really not accepting me because of a lot of the things that she knew or that I had told her. So were you ladies surprised at the quick flip flop after that pinky swear?
๋งŽ์€ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด ์ œ ์ž์กด๊ฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด๊ธฐ๋„ ํ–ˆ๊ณ  ํ•œํŽธ์œผ๋กœ๋Š” ๋ฆฌ์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ์ €์˜ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋“ค ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ ˆ ๋ฐ›์•„๋“ค์ด์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•˜์ฃ  ๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ถ„๋“ค์€ ๋‘˜์˜ ์†๊ฐ€๋ฝ ๋งน์„ธ ์ดํ›„์˜ ๊ฐ‘์ž‘์Šค๋Ÿฌ์šด ํƒœ์„ธ ์ „ํ™˜์— ๋†€๋ผ์…จ๋‚˜์š”?
That they were able to then move forward and become great friends? Yes. - Yes? -I was so shocked. - That was quick. -Well, it was very abrupt.
๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๊ด€๊ณ„๋ฅผ ๊ฐœ์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์ข‹์€ ์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค์—์š”? ๊ทธ๋žฌ์ฃ  - ๊ทธ๋ž˜์š”? - ์ „ ๋งŽ์ด ๋†€๋ž์–ด์š” - ๋นจ๋ž์–ด์š” - ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ, ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๊ฐ‘์ž‘์Šค๋Ÿฌ์› ์–ด์š”
For this group, that's very quick. I thought, "Why am I fighting this woman?" When I saw that she really was kind of starting to spiral, I felt she just seemed in emotional crisis. So it just seemed better to turn it around.
์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์‚ฌ์ด์—์„  ๊ต‰์žฅํžˆ ๋น ๋ฅธ ๊ฑฐ์˜€์ฃ  '์™œ ํ…Œ์ผ๋Ÿฌ๋ž‘ ์‹ธ์šฐ๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€?' ํ•˜๋Š” ์ƒ๊ฐ์ด ๋“ค์–ด์„œ์˜ˆ์š” ํ…Œ์ผ๋Ÿฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ ์ƒํ™ฉ์— ํœ˜๋ง๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฑธ ๋ณด์•˜์„ ๋•Œ ๊ฐ์ •์ ์ธ ์œ„๊ธฐ์— ๋„๋‹ฌํ•ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•˜๊ณ  ์ƒํ™ฉ์„ ๋ฐ˜์ „์‹œํ‚ค๋Š” ๊ฒŒ ์ข‹๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋А๊ผˆ๋˜ ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”
Taylor, at the tea party, you said Lisa's ego was out of control. Mm-hm. Why did you feel that? Giggy was tweeting things I didn't think were appropriate, um, and you know, calling people like, we were being called names.
ํ…Œ์ผ๋Ÿฌ, ํ‹ฐ ํŒŒํ‹ฐ์—์„œ ๋ฆฌ์‚ฌ์˜ ์ž์กด์‹ฌ์ด ํ†ต์ œ ๋ถˆ๊ฐ€๋ผ ํ•˜์…จ๋Š”๋ฐ์š” ์™œ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋А๋‚Œ์„ ๋ฐ›์•˜์ฃ ? ์ง€๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ํŠธ์œ„ํ„ฐ์— ๋ถˆ์†ํ•œ ๊ธ€์„ ์˜ฌ๋ ธ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์š•๋ณด์ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š”
What name did Giggy call you on Twitter? I don't remember if it was a duck or a blowfish, whatever it was I mean, I-- You call yourself that all the time.
์ง€๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋–ค ์š•์„ ํ–ˆ์ฃ ? ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์˜ค๋ฆฌ์˜€๋Š”์ง€ ๋ณต์–ด์˜€๋Š”์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋ญ์˜€๋“ , ์ œ ๋ง์€... ์Šค์Šค๋กœ๋„ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•˜์ž–์•„์š”
You admit you talk about your lips all the time. -I'm not talking to you, by the way. -You're talking to everyone. - Exactly. -Wow, back off, Oklahoma. I just felt like the whole Giggy thing, it was all kind of perpetuating a new personality for Lisa, and I didn't like it.
ํ…Œ์ผ๋Ÿฌ ์ž…์ˆ ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ์š” - ๋‹น์‹ ํ•œํ…Œ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ์ค‘ ์•„๋‹ˆ๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š” - ๋ชจ๋‘์—๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ์ค‘์ด์ž–์•„์š” - ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š” - ์ง„์ •ํ•ด์š”, ์˜คํด๋ผํ˜ธ๋งˆ ์•„๊ฐ€์”จ ๋ฆฌ์‚ฌ์˜ ํ‰ํŒ์— ๊ธˆ์ด ๊ฐ€๊ฒŒ ํ–ˆ๊ณ  ์ €๋„ ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์ด ์ข‹์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์–ด์š”
"Do you think the women are afraid to confront you face to face?" Um, I don't know, yeah, she did say, they all talk behind your back, but then she said that as well.
'๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ์ง์ ‘ ๋งž์„œ๊ธฐ ๋‘๋ ค์›Œํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์„ธ์š”?' ๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ๋„ค ํ…Œ์ผ๋Ÿฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ ์ด ์นœ๊ตฌ๋„ ๋˜‘๊ฐ™์ด ๋งํ–ˆ์–ด์š”
-Who said that? -Well, Brandi. I didn't say all of you. I can't speak for all of you. I said one person, specifically. -Who's the one person? -It wasn't me, I don't say...
- ๋ˆ„๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋žฌ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์•ผ? - ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋””๊ฐ€ ๋ชจ๋‘๋ฅผ ์ง€๋ชฉํ•œ ๊ฒŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ์—์š” ๋ชจ๋‘๋ฅผ ๋Œ€๋ณ€ํ•  ์ˆ˜๋Š” ์—†์ฃ  ์ „ ํ•œ ๋ช…์— ๊ด€ํ•ด์„œ๋งŒ ๋งํ–ˆ์–ด์š” - ๊ทธ ํ•œ ๋ช…์ด ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๋ฐ? - ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋งํ•œ ๊ฒŒ ์•„๋ƒ, ๋‚œ...
You. What did I say? I've heard from people that work for you that you don't like Lisa, that's all. -Why would you go and tell her about that? -Why would you do that?
๋„ˆ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋ญ๋ผ๊ณ  ํ–ˆ๊ธธ๋ž˜? ๋„ค ์ง์›๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋„ค๊ฐ€ ๋ฆฌ์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ์‹ซ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ–ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๋ง์„ ๋“ค์—ˆ์–ด, ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค์•ผ - ์™œ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋ง์„ ์ „ํ•ด? - ์™œ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋ง์„ ํ•ด?
-What do you mean? - Why would you tell her that? Because she's my friend and we were talking. Okay, but I thought we were friends. You have not seen me since the show wrapped.
- ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋ฌด์Šจ ์†Œ๋ฆฌ์•ผ? - ์™œ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋ง์„ ์ „ํ•ด? ์™œ๋ƒ๋ฉด ์šฐ๋ฆฐ ์นœ๊ตฌ๊ณ  ๋Œ€ํ™” ์ค‘์ด์—ˆ์œผ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ์•Œ๊ฒ ์–ด, ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‚œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์นœ๊ตฌ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ ๋„Œ ๋ฐฉ์†ก์ด ๋๋‚˜๊ณ  ๋‚  ๋ณธ ์ ๋„ ์—†์ž–์•„
You don't even return texts. - You know what? -You tweet me. That we're not friends, clearly. But she's clearly reaching out to you for one reason.
๋‚ด ๋ฌธ์ž์— ๋‹ต๋ณ€์กฐ์ฐจ ์•ˆ ํ•˜์ž–์•„ - ๊ทธ๊ฑฐ ์•Œ์•„? - ํŠธ์œ„ํ„ฐ๋กœ๋งŒ ๋งํ–ˆ์ง€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฑด ๋ช…๋ฐฑํ•˜์ž–์•„ ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์Ÿค๊ฐ€ ๋„ˆํ•œํ…Œ ์ ‘๊ทผํ•˜๋Š” ์ด์œ ๋Š” ๋‹จ ํ•˜๋‚˜์•ผ
- No, no. -She's afraid of what you're gonna say. She's never said one bad thing about any of you. -I have never talked about any of you. -Not at all. We've never, we don't talk about the other women. She's never said a bad thing about anyone here, period. -Not at all. -Not that kind of relationship.
- ์•„๋‹ˆ - ๋„ค๊ฐ€ ๋ญ˜ ๋– ๋ฒŒ๋ฆด์ง€ ๊ฑฑ์ •๋˜๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ๋ฆฌ์‚ฌ๋Š” ๋„ˆํฌ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ํ•œ ๋งˆ๋””๋„ ๋‚˜์˜๊ฒŒ ๋ง ์•ˆ ํ–ˆ์–ด - ๋‚œ ๋„ˆํฌ์— ๊ด€ํ•ด ๋งํ•œ ์ ๋„ ์—†์–ด - ์ „ํ˜€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋„ˆํฌ์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ์–˜๊ธฐ ์•ˆ ํ•ด ๋ฆฌ์‚ฌ๋Š” ์ด ์ค‘ ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ์— ๊ด€ํ•ด์„œ๋„ ๋‚˜์˜๊ฒŒ ๋ง ํ•œ ์  ์—†์–ด, ํ™•์‹คํ•ด - ๋‹จ ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ๋„ - ์šฐ๋ฆฐ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์‚ฌ์ด๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์•ผ
-The only time we spoke... -We've seen each other, we have fun. And she told me that some, sorry, carry on. No, I said I invited Camille, Lisa, and Adrienne to my birthday party.
- ๋‹จ ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋งํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ๋Š”... - ์šฐ๋ฆฐ ๊ทธ์ € ์ฆ๊ฒ๊ฒŒ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๋ณด๋‚ด ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋””๊ฐ€ ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ... ๋ฏธ์•ˆํ•ด์š”, ๊ณ„์† ์–˜๊ธฐํ•ด์š” ์ œ ์ƒ์ผ์— ์นด๋ฐ€, ๋ฆฌ์‚ฌ ์—์ด๋“œ๋ฆฌ์—”์„ ์ดˆ๋Œ€ํ–ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”
Camille couldn't come at the last minute because she was sick, but we kept in contact. Lisa showed up, and Adrienne's like, "I don't know if I can come out and be in New York."
์นด๋ฐ€์€ ๋ชธ์ด ์•ˆ ์ข‹์•„์„œ ๋ง‰ํŒ์— ์˜ฌ ์ˆ˜๊ฐ€ ์—†์—ˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๊ณ„์† ์—ฐ๋ฝํ–ˆ๊ณ  ๋ฆฌ์‚ฌ๋Š” ํŒŒํ‹ฐ์— ์™”์ฃ  ์—์ด๋“œ๋ฆฌ์—”์€ '๋‰ด์š•๊นŒ์ง€ ๊ฐˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์–ด'๋ผ๊ณ  ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”
I didn't hear from her for a month. -You never got back to me-- -Yes, I did. I got back to you the next night. -You didn't respond to me. - No, no, no. no.
ํ•œ ๋‹ฌ๊ฐ„ ์—ฐ๋ฝ๋„ ์—†์—ˆ์ฃ  - ๋‚˜ํ•œํ…Œ ๋‹ต์žฅ๋„ ์•ˆ ํ–ˆ์ž–์•„ - ํ–ˆ๊ฑฐ๋“  ๋‹ค์Œ ๋‚  ์ €๋…์— ์—ฐ๋ฝํ–ˆ์ž–์•„ - ๋„ค๊ฐ€ ๋Œ€๋‹ต์„ ์•ˆ ํ–ˆ์ง€ - ์•„๋‹ˆ์•ผ
-I said, "Are you coming?" -No, you didn't respond to me. -No, I did. -What? And I invited you to Halloween, and you didn't come. With the kids, you also invited 1,000 other people.
- ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ '์˜ฌ ๊ฑฐ์•ผ?'๋ผ๊ณ  ํ–ˆ์ง€ - ์•„๋‹ˆ, ๋„Œ ๋‹ต์žฅ ์•ˆ ํ–ˆ์–ด - ๋‚œ ์—ฐ๋ฝํ–ˆ๊ณ  - ๋ญ๋ผ๊ณ ? ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋„ ํ•ผ๋Ÿฌ์œˆ ํŒŒํ‹ฐ์— ์ดˆ๋Œ€ํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ ๋„ค๊ฐ€ ์•ˆ ์™”์ž–์•„ ์•„์ด๋“ค์„ ํฌํ•จํ•ด์„œ 1,000๋ช…์€ ๋” ์ดˆ๋Œ€ํ–ˆ์ž–์•„
So what? I invited you. You're saying that I haven't, that I'm not thinking of you. Of course, I'm thinking of you. -I said I haven't seen you. -I invited you.
๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋ญ? ๋‚œ ์ดˆ๋Œ€ํ–ˆ์ž–์•„ ๋„Œ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์—ฐ๋ฝ์„ ์•ˆ ํ–ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ ... ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋„ค ์ƒ๊ฐ์„ ์•ˆ ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•˜์ž–์•„ ๋‹น์—ฐํžˆ ๋„ค ์ƒ๊ฐ์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€ - ๋งŒ๋‚œ ์ ์ด ์—†๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ–ˆ์ง€ - ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์ดˆ๋Œ€ํ–ˆ์ž–์•„
-I didn't say you weren't thinking of me. -You're right. But I invited you, didn't I? - Did I invite you? -Yes. So I'm reaching out to you, and you didn't come. I couldn't.
- ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”๋‹ค๊ณ ๋Š” ์•ˆ ํ–ˆ์–ด - ๊ทธ๋ž˜ ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์ดˆ๋Œ€ํ–ˆ์ž–์•„, ์•ˆ ๊ทธ๋ž˜? - ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์ดˆ๋Œ€ํ–ˆ์–ด? - ๊ทธ๋ž˜ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ ๋ด, ๋‚œ ๋„ˆํ•œํ…Œ ์—ฐ๋ฝํ•˜์ž–์•„ ๋„Œ ์•ˆ ์™”์ง€๋งŒ ๊ฐˆ ์ˆ˜ ์—†์—ˆ์–ด
Okay, then don't say I'm not being responsible. But I think that's kind of really mean for you to say, you know, I would reach out to Brandi and be friendly with Brandi because I want her on my side. I don't need anybody on my side.
์•Œ์•˜์–ด, ๊ทธ๋Ÿผ ์ด๊ฒŒ ๋‚ด ์ฑ…์ž„์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•˜์ง€ ๋งˆ ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋””๋ฅผ ๋‚ด ํŽธ์œผ๋กœ ๋งŒ๋“ค๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑฐ๋ผ๋Š” ๋ง์€ ์ •๋ง ๋ฌด๋ก€ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด ๋‚œ ํŽธ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฑด ํ•„์š” ์—†์–ด
We weren't friends at the beginning, and then I found her funny in Hawaii, and we became friends. There's no ulterior motive. I don't want to talk about the other women.
์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ฒ˜์Œ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์นœ๊ตฌ์˜€๋˜ ๊ฑด ์•„๋‹ˆ์—ˆ์–ด ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ํ•˜์™€์ด์—์„œ ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋””๊ฐ€ ์žฌ๋ฐŒ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ๊ณ  ์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ๋œ ๊ฑฐ์•ผ ์–ด๋–ค ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์˜๋„๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ์•ผ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์นœ๊ตฌ๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€๋„ ์•Š์•„
If I want to say anything, I will say it to their face. I've said that to you many times. -I did. -At the tea party. At the tea party. Yes, I do.
๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋ญ”๊ฐ€ ๋งํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋Œ€๋†“๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ๊ฑฐ์•ผ ์ด๋ฏธ ๋„ˆํ•œํ…Œ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์—†์ด ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ–ˆ์–ด - ์ „ ๊ทธ๋žฌ์–ด์š” - ํ‹ฐ ํŒŒํ‹ฐ์—์„œ ๊ทธ๋žฌ์ฃ  ํ‹ฐ ํŒŒํ‹ฐ์—์„œ์š”, ๋„ค ์ „ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด์š”
Mm-hm. How? I never said I had her back against Lisa, never. I never said that to you. Never. You can say otherwise, but I know. -I swear to God, I've never said-- -Yeah, you and I had a phone call, and you said, "Lisa phoned me and said, pull me aside at the sรฉance, and say Taylor is not my friend." No!
์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ์š”? ์ „ ๋ฆฌ์‚ฌ์—๊ฒŒ ๋งž์„œ์„œ ํ…Œ์ผ๋Ÿฌ์˜ ํŽธ์ด ๋˜๊ฒ ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•œ ์ ์ด ์—†์–ด์š” ๋‚œ ๋„ˆ์—๊ฒŒ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋ง ํ•œ ์  ์—†์–ด ๊ฒฐ์ฝ” ๋„ค๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•˜๋“  ๋‚œ ์ง„์‹ค์„ ์•Œ์•„ - ์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ๋งน์„ธํ•˜๊ฑด๋Œ€ ๋‚œ ๊ฒฐ์ฝ”... - ๊ทธ๋ž˜, ๋„ค๊ฐ€ ๋‚˜๋ž‘ ํ†ตํ™”ํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ ๋„ค๊ฐ€ '๋ฆฌ์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ์ „ํ™”๋กœ ๊ต๋ นํšŒ์—์„œ ๋”ฐ๋กœ ๋นผ ๋‹ฌ๋ผ๋ฉฐ' 'ํ…Œ์ผ๋Ÿฌ๋Š” ์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ๊ณ  ํ–ˆ์–ด'๋ผ๊ณ  ํ–ˆ์–ด ์•„๋ƒ!
I know nothing about the sรฉance. -I'm sorry, tell her you're lying. -At the sรฉance at the next event. -That... -That's a lie. Nancy from Washington, DC, said, "Or were all of you afraid of Lisa?" It was their argument, and we didn't want to get involved.
๋‚œ ๊ต๋ นํšŒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ ์ „ํ˜€ ๋ชฐ๋ผ - ๋ฏธ์•ˆํ•œ๋ฐ ๊ฑฐ์ง“๋ง์ด์•ผ - ๊ทธ๋‹ค์Œ ํ–‰์‚ฌ ๋ง์ด์•ผ - ๊ทธ... - ๊ทธ๊ฑด ๊ฑฐ์ง“๋ง์ด์•ผ ์›Œ์‹ฑํ„ด์— ์‚ฌ๋Š” ๋‚ธ์‹œ๊ฐ€ ๋ฌผ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค '๋ชจ๋‘ ๋ฆฌ์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ฌด์„œ์› ๋˜ ๊ฑด๊ฐ€์š”?' ๋‘˜ ์‚ฌ์ด์˜ ์ผ์ด์—ˆ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ด€์—ฌํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์–ด์š”
And I don't need any more drama in my life. I've had problems and issues with my sister, Kim, and it's very hard, because I am friends with all of them.
์ „ ๋”๋Š” ๋ฌธ์ œ๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๊ณ ์š” ์ด๋ฏธ ์–ธ๋‹ˆ์ธ ํ‚ด๊ณผ์˜ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋กœ๋„ ์ถฉ๋ถ„ํ–ˆ์œผ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š” ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ „ ๋‘˜ ๋ชจ๋‘์™€ ์นœ๊ตฌ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์•„์ฃผ ์–ด๋ ค์šด ๋ฌธ์ œ์˜€์–ด์š”
Anna from Bedford, Virginia said, Honestly, I sat with Lisa at dinner, and I said to Lisa something negative about Taylor, and she had Taylor's back, 100 percent.
๋ฒ ๋“œํผ๋“œ์— ์‚ฌ๋Š” ์• ๋‚˜์˜ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค ํ…Œ์ผ๋Ÿฌ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์•ˆ ์ข‹๊ฒŒ ๋งํ–ˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š” ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ๋ฆฌ์‚ฌ๋Š” ์™„์ „ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ํ…Œ์ผ๋Ÿฌ์˜ ํŽธ์„ ๋“ค์—ˆ์–ด์š”
And I didn't agree with her, but I'm saying that is, no cameras rolling, that is a genuine, we had a genuine disagreement. Brandi, what was your issue with Taylor?
ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ๊ฑด ์นด๋ฉ”๋ผ๋„ ์—†๋Š” ์ƒํ™ฉ์—์„œ ์ •๋ง ์ง„์‹ฌ์œผ๋กœ ๋…ผ์Ÿ์„ ํ–ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š” ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋””, ํ…Œ์ผ๋Ÿฌ์—๊ฒŒ ์–ด๋–ค ๋ถˆ๋งŒ์ด ์žˆ์ฃ ?
I saw Russell at the Glen, and he told me that Taylor had him send the e-mail to Camille, and he felt horrible about it, and that he always liked Camille, and that just not...
๋Ÿฌ์…€์€ ํ…Œ์ผ๋Ÿฌ๊ฐ€ ์‹œ์ผœ์„œ ์นด๋ฐ€์—๊ฒŒ ๊ทธ ์ด๋ฉ”์ผ์„ ๋ณด๋ƒˆ๋‹ค๋ฉฐ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋งˆ์Œ์ด ์•ˆ ์ข‹๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ–ˆ์–ด์š” ๋Ÿฌ์…€์€ ํ•ญ์ƒ ์นด๋ฐ€์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ–ˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด์„œ์š” ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฑด ์ •๋ง...
It didn't sit well with me, and that's it. She said that Russell was really upset and... The day after, he said, "Happy birthday, . No, I text my shrink immediately, so you want to go through my text messages?
์šฉ๋‚ฉํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†๋Š” ์–˜๊ธฐ์˜€์–ด์š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋ฟ์ด์—์š” ๋Ÿฌ์…€์ด ๊ต‰์žฅํžˆ ์†์ƒํ•ดํ–ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ ๋„ ํ–ˆ์—ˆ์ฃ  ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ '์ƒ์ผ ์ถ•ํ•˜ํ•œ๋‹ค, ์ด๋…„์•„' ๋‚œ ๋ฐ”๋กœ ์‹ฌ๋ฆฌ ์ƒ๋‹ด๊ฐ€์—๊ฒŒ ๊ทธ ๋ฌธ์ž๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋ƒˆ์–ด์š” ๋‚ด ๋ฌธ์ž๋ผ๋„ ์ฐพ์•„๋ณผ๋ž˜์š”? ๋ฆฌ์‚ฌ๋„ ๊ทธ๋•Œ ๊ฐ™์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š”
Lisa was with me when it... Like, the very next morning, I didn't speak... -I'm telling you what Russell said to me. - Okay, great. Russell is a master manipulator, you want to go talk to the 50 people that are suing me right now for getting manipulated by him for the last 20 years?
๊ทธ๋•Œ ๋ฆฌ์‚ฌ๋„ ๊ฐ™์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š” ๋ฐ”๋กœ ๋‹ค์Œ ๋‚  ์•„์นจ์— ๋‚œ ๋ง์„ ์•ˆ ํ–ˆ... - ๋‚œ ๋Ÿฌ์…€ ๋ง์„ ์ „ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š” - ์ข‹์•„์š” ์ง€๋‚œ 20๋…„๊ฐ„ ๋Ÿฌ์…€์—๊ฒŒ ์กฐ์ข…๋‹นํ•œ ๊ฑธ๋กœ ์ง€๊ธˆ ๋‚˜๋ฅผ ๊ณ ์†Œ ์ค‘์ธ 50๋ช…์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์—๊ฒŒ ๊ฐ€์„œ ๋งํ•ด ๋ณผ๋ž˜์š”?
But you have to understand that she's only listening to what Russell said. I understand. And she 100 percent had your back. Because she knows so much more than you know, honey.
ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋””๋Š” ๋‹จ์ง€ ๋Ÿฌ์…€ ์–˜๊ธฐ๋งŒ ๋“ค์—ˆ์ž–์•„ ๊ทธ๊ฑด ์ดํ•ดํ•ด ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ๋ฆฌ์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ์™„์ „ํžˆ ํ…Œ์ผ๋Ÿฌ ํŽธ์„ ๋“ค์—ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ ์š” ๋‹น์‹ ๋ณด๋‹ค ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฑธ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š”
But that's great. I mean, Eddie Cibrian says you slit his tires. -Is that true? -Yeah. Okay, then. Did you slit his tires? I own them, too.
๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์ข‹๋‹ค๋Š” ์–˜๊ธฐ์˜ˆ์š” ์—๋”” ์‹œ๋ธŒ๋ฆฌ์–ธ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ํƒ€์ด์–ด๋ฅผ ์ฐข์–ด ๋†จ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ–ˆ์–ด์š” - ๊ทธ๊ฑด ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ธ๊ฐ€์š”? - ๋„ค ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ด๋ผ๋ฉด์•ผ ๊ทธ๋ถ„ ํƒ€์ด์–ด๋ฅผ ์ฐข์—ˆ๋‚˜์š”? ์ œ ์†Œ์œ ์˜ˆ์š”
I mean, I just took the tires, and I put the knife into his motorcycles, and then I told him, "Don't ride them, you're probably gonna get hurt." I rest my case.
๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ ์˜คํ† ๋ฐ”์ด์— ์นผ์„ ๊ฝ‚๊ณ  '์ด๊ฑฐ ํƒ€์ง€ ๋งˆ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ค ๋‹ค์ณ'๋ผ๊ณ  ํ–ˆ์–ด์š” ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์ œ ์ฆ๊ฑฐ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
What is that? What is your case? -Yeah, what is your case? -When's the book come out, anyway? How long has it been? Stop. Sorry, next question.
๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋ฌด์Šจ ์˜๋ฏธ์ธ๋ฐ์š”? - ๊ทธ๋ž˜, ๋ญ๊ฐ€ ์ฆ๊ฑฐ๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์•ผ? - ์ฑ…์€ ์–ธ์ œ ๋‚˜์˜ค๋Š”๋ฐ์š”? ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๋๋‹ค๊ณ ์š” ๊ทธ๋งŒํ•ด์š” ์ฃ„์†กํ•ด์š”, ๋‹ค์Œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์š”
Why you think it's inappropriate that she wrote a book? -Uh, it's been, like, a hot minute. -Really, Brandi? Three women die every single day from domestic violence.
ํ…Œ์ผ๋Ÿฌ๊ฐ€ ์ฑ…์„ ์“ด ๊ฒŒ ์™œ ์ž˜๋ชป๋˜์—ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ฃ ? - ๋ฐฉ๊ธˆ ์ผ์–ด๋‚œ ์ผ์ด์ž–์•„์š” - ์ง„์‹ฌ์ด์—์š”? ๊ฐ€์ • ํญ๋ ฅ์œผ๋กœ ๋งค์ผ 3๋ช…์˜ ์—ฌ์„ฑ์ด ์ฃฝ์–ด์š”
You want me to wait another month, so 100 more women will be dead? How about six months, so 600 more women are dead? -This is about your daughter and Russell. -No, it's not. It's not, either.
100๋ช…์˜ ์—ฌ์„ฑ์ด ๋” ์ฃฝ์„ ๋•Œ๊นŒ์ง€ ํ•œ ๋‹ฌ ์ •๋„ ๋” ๊ธฐ๋‹ค๋ฆด๊นŒ์š”? 6๊ฐœ์›”์€ ์–ด๋•Œ์š”? ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋ฉด 600๋ช…์€ ๋” ์ฃฝ์„ ํ…๋ฐ - ๋‹น์‹  ๋”ธ๊ณผ ๋Ÿฌ์…€์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฑฐ์ž–์•„์š” - ์•„๋‹ˆ์—์š”
It's about women that are dying every single... This is none of your business, okay? -You make it the world's business. -You're way out of your place.
๋งค์ผ ์ฃฝ์–ด ๊ฐ€๋Š” ์—ฌ์„ฑ๋“ค์— ๊ด€ํ•œ... ์ด๊ฑด ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ƒ๊ด€ํ•  ๋ฐ”๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์—์š” - ์˜จ ์„ธ์ƒ์ด ์ƒ๊ด€ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ํ–ˆ์ž–์•„์š” - ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋‚˜์„ค ์ž๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์—์š”
-No, you are! -No, you're out of line. Somebody died here. Okay? Yes, exactly, so let him rest in peace. Do not judge until you've walked in someone else's shoes.
- ์ฃผ์ œ ํŒŒ์•… ํ•ด์š” - ๋‹น์‹ ์ด๋‚˜ ํ•ด์š” ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ์ฃฝ์—ˆ์–ด์š” ์•Œ๊ฒ ์–ด์š”? ๋‚ด ๋ง์ด ๊ทธ ๋ง์ด์—์š” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ ์ž…์žฅ์ด ๋ผ ๋ณด๊ธฐ ์ „์— ๋ฉ‹๋Œ€๋กœ ํŒ๋‹จํ•˜์ง€ ๋งˆ์š”
You just came in here, you are Angry Spice. What are you? -I'm just... -Exactly. She's a single mom now with a husband that killed himself. -How dare you talk like that. -Right, and she wrote a book about it.
๋ฐฉ๊ธˆ ๋“ค์–ด์™€ ๋†“๊ณ  ์„ฑ๊น” ์žฅ๋‚œ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋„ค ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ญ”๋ฐ์š”? - ๋‚œ ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ... - ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š” ํ…Œ์ผ๋Ÿฌ๋Š” ์ž์‚ด๋กœ ๋‚จํŽธ์„ ์žƒ์€ ์‹ฑ๊ธ€ ๋ง˜์ด์—์š” - ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋ง์„ ํ•ด์š”? - ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฑธ๋กœ ์ฑ…์„ ์ผ์ฃ 
In one second. How dare you go on a reality show and sit there and call me up and say, "I'm sorry, I have to be an to you in my blog." Did I call you? Have we talked on the phone?
1์ดˆ ๋งŒ์—์š” ๋‚˜ํ•œํ…Œ ์ „ํ™”๋กœ '๋ฏธ์•ˆํ•œ๋ฐ ๋ธ”๋กœ๊ทธ์— ๋‹น์‹  ์š•์„ ์จ์•ผ ํ•ด์š”'๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•˜๊ณ  ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๊ฐํžˆ ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ ์•‰์•„์„œ ๋ฐฉ์†ก์— ๋‚˜์˜ฌ ์ƒ๊ฐ์„ ํ•ด์š”? ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์ „ํ™”๋ฅผ ํ–ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ ์š”?
-Yeah. Oh, I'm sorry, I texted you. -No, we texted. I said, "I'm sorry." I just said, "My blog is rather aggressive this week, just FYI." You're taking it a little too far today, but I have been nice to you.
- ๊ทธ๋ž˜์š”, ๋ฌธ์ž๋ฅผ ํ–ˆ์—ˆ์ฃ  - ๋ฌธ์ž์˜€์ฃ  ๋‚œ '๋ฏธ์•ˆํ•ด์š”' '์ด๋ฒˆ ์ฃผ ๋ธ”๋กœ๊ทธ๋Š” ์ข€ ๊ณผ๊ฒฉํ•  ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”'๋ผ๊ณ  ํ–ˆ์ฃ  ์ง€๊ธˆ๊นŒ์ง€ ๋‹น์‹ ํ•œํ…Œ ์ž˜ํ•ด ์คฌ๋Š”๋ฐ ์˜ค๋Š˜ ์„ ์„ ๋„˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์š”
I'm taking it too far. I invited you to my party, -and what's the next text I get? -Why would I want to go to your holiday party? "Kyle's a c-u-." It was supposed to go to somebody else. She texted to someone else and goes to me by accident, about me.
๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์„ ์„ ๋„˜์—ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ ์š”? ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ๋‚ด ํŒŒํ‹ฐ์—๋„ ์ดˆ๋Œ€ํ–ˆ์–ด์š” - ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์™œ ๊ฐ€๊ณ  ์‹ถ๊ฒ ์–ด์š”? - ๊ทธ๋‹ค์Œ์œผ๋กœ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒŒ ์™”์ฃ  '์นด์ผ์€ ์Œ๋…„์ด์•ผ' ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์—๊ฒŒ ๊ฐ”์–ด์•ผ ํ•  ๊ฒŒ ์‹ค์ˆ˜๋กœ ์ €ํ•œํ…Œ ์˜จ ๊ฑฐ์ฃ 
-Yeah, that's true. -Is that true? So talk about two-faced, this is the Brandi that I've heard about and was seeing that the cameras didn't always see.
- ๊ทธ๊ฑด ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ด์—์š” - ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ด์—์š”? ์ด๊ฒŒ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋””๊ณ  ์นด๋ฉ”๋ผ๊ฐ€ ์žก์ง€ ๋ชปํ–ˆ๋˜ ๋ชจ์Šต์ด์ฃ 
-Okay. -You came in attacking everyone today. You're going after Taylor, and being so vicious, when she's been through enough this year. She's been through enough this year, Brandi. But maybe she feels the same way about you.
- ์•Œ์•˜์–ด์š” - ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์˜ค๋Š˜ ๋ชจ๋‘๋ฅผ ๊ณต๊ฒฉํ–ˆ์–ด์š” ์˜ฌํ•ด ์ด๋ฏธ ํž˜๋“  ์ผ์„ ๊ฒช์€ ํ…Œ์ผ๋Ÿฌ๋ฅผ ์ž”์ธํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๊ณต๊ฒฉํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์š” ์ถฉ๋ถ„ํžˆ ํž˜๋“ค๋‹ค๊ณ ์š”, ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋”” ํ…Œ์ผ๋Ÿฌ๋„ ๋„ˆ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋˜‘๊ฐ™์ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์–ด
-Be a little sympathetic. -She doesn't know where you are, either. Eddie left you for LeAnn Rimes with two kids, I'm sure you would have wanted a little sympathy.
- ์ธก์€์ง€์‹ฌ์„ ์ข€ ๊ฐ€์ ธ์š” - ๋„ˆ๋„ ๊ฐ™์€ ์ž…์žฅ์ด์ž–์•„ ์—๋””๊ฐ€ ์• ๋“ค์„ ๋ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ฆฌ์•ค ๋ผ์ž„์Šค์—๊ฒŒ ๊ฐ”์„ ๋•Œ ๋‹น์‹ ๋„ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๊ณต๊ฐํ•ด ์ฃผ๊ธธ ๋ฐ”๋ž์„ ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”
I'm hitting below... She said she slashed the tires. I mean, you know, to be honest, slashing the tires, I mean, it's not really any of our business.
๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋น„๊ฒํ•œ... ํ…Œ์ผ๋Ÿฌ๊ฐ€ ํƒ€์ด์–ด๋ฅผ ์ฐข์€ ๊ฑฐ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋งํ–ˆ์ž–์•„ ๋‚ด ๋ง์€ ์†”์งํžˆ ํƒ€์ด์–ด๋ฅผ ์ฐข์—ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑด ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์ƒ๊ด€ํ•  ๋ฐ”๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์•ผ ์ข€ ๋ฌด์„ญ๊ธด ํ•˜์ง€
Well, is it really? I mean, I think I mean, I'm not saying I go out and do it every afternoon, but I think it was her husband, she owned the thing, and he ran off with some other woman, and she stuck a knife in it. I'm not, say, condoning it, but I don't think it's for us to judge.
๊ธ€์Ž„, ๊ทธ๋Ÿด๊นŒ? ์ž๊ธฐ ๋‚จํŽธ๊ณผ ์žˆ์—ˆ๋˜ ์ผ์ด๊ณ  ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋””๊ฐ€ ๋ฌผ๊ฑด ์ฃผ์ธ์ด์—ˆ์œผ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์—ฌ์ž๋ž‘ ๋ฐ”๋žŒ์ด ๋‚˜์„œ ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ์นผ์„ ๊ฝ‚์•˜๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑด๋ฐ ์˜นํ˜ธํ•˜์ž๋Š” ๊ฑด ์•„๋‹ˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํŒ๋‹จํ•  ์ผ์€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์ง€
I mean, I'm just putting it out there in her defense. Well, last season ended in a blowout fight between Kyle and Kim. Since then, the two sisters have tried hard to pick up the pieces and repair the damage to their relationship, but putting it back together hasn't been easy.
๋ธŒ๋žœ๋”” ์ž…์žฅ์—์„œ ๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์„ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์•ผ ๋„ค, ์ €๋ฒˆ ์‹œ์ฆŒ์€ ์นด์ผ๊ณผ ํ‚ด์˜ ๋‹คํˆผ์œผ๋กœ ๋์ด ๋‚ฌ๋Š”๋ฐ์š” ์„œ๋กœ์™€์˜ ๊ด€๊ณ„๋ฅผ ๊ฐœ์„ ํ•˜๋ ค ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ฒฐ์ฝ” ์‰ฌ์šด ๊ณผ์ •์€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์—ˆ์ฃ 
I feel like you and I have gone through so much, but we're in a good place. I'm working very hard, because it has to come from me now. I want to be so bad.
์–ธ๋‹ˆ๋ž‘๋„ ๋ณ„์˜๋ณ„ ์ผ์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์›ƒ์œผ๋ฉด์„œ ์žˆ์ž–์•„ ๋…ธ๋ ฅ์„ ๋งŽ์ด ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์š” ์ด์ œ ๋‚ด ๋ฌธ์ œ์ด๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š” ์ €๋„ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ด์š”
You're talking too much, I'm telling-- Kyle, you're not my mother, thanks. -Are you coming? - No. Okay. Adrienne thinks you're coming. So you need to call her and tell her. Kyle's always trying to control what goes on in my life, but it really is mine, and it's about me and what I want.
๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋ง์ด ๋งŽ์•„ ์นด์ผ, ๋„Œ ์—„๋งˆ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์•ผ - ์˜ฌ ๊ฑฐ์•ผ? - ์•„๋‹ˆ ์—์ด๋“œ๋ฆฌ์—”์€ ์–ธ๋‹ˆ๊ฐ€ ์˜ค๋Š” ์ค„ ์•Œ์•„ ์ „ํ™”ํ•ด์„œ ์ง์ ‘ ๋งํ•ด ์นด์ผ์€ ํ•ญ์ƒ ์ œ ์ธ์ƒ์„ ํ†ต์ œํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•˜์ฃ  ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ œ ์ธ์ƒ์€ ์ œ ๊ฑฐ์ž–์•„์š” ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์›ํ•˜๋Š” ๋Œ€๋กœ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์ฃ 
Kim. Answer me, you're on the six o'clock flight? No, I'm at home, looking for my keys! What did she say? Why are you so worried about me?
ํ‚ด 6์‹œ ๋น„ํ–‰๊ธฐ ํƒ„๋‹ค๊ณ ? ์•„๋‹ˆ, ์•„์ง ์ง‘์ด์•ผ ๋งํ•  ์—ด์‡  ์ฐพ๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด ํ‚ด์ด ๋ญ๋ž˜? ์™œ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌํ•œํ…Œ ๊ด€์‹ฌ์ด ๋งŽ์€๋ฐ?
Enjoy yourself, and you're not enjoying your own life. That's . Just knock it off. You want to talk to your kids like that? Go ahead. I'm a big girl.
๋„ค ํ•  ์ผ์ด๋‚˜ ํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ ์ฆ๊ฑฐ์šด ์‹œ๊ฐ„ ๋ณด๋‚ด๋ ด ๊ฑฐ์ง“๋งํ•˜๋„ค ๊ทธ๋งŒ ์ข€ ํ•ด ๋„ค ์ž์‹๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ• ๋ž˜? ๊ทธ๋ž˜ ๋ณด๋“ ๊ฐ€ ๋‚œ ์„ฑ์ธ์ด์•ผ
Don't expect there are not repercussions for your actions. -There's no repercussions. -Yeah, there are. We can't seem to get it together. I wanted you to be with me.
๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ํ–‰๋™ ํ•˜๊ณ ๋„ ์•„๋ฌด๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์ด ์—†๊ธธ ๋ฐ”๋ผ์ง€ ๋งˆ - ์˜ํ–ฅ์€ ๋ฌด์Šจ? - ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋„์ €ํžˆ ๋งž์ถ”๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ํž˜๋“ค์–ด์š” ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์–ธ๋‹ˆ๋ž‘ ๊ฐ™์ด ์žˆ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ฑฐ์•ผ
-I wanted to be with you. -No, you didn't. You missed the flight, you missed the boat, you missed the bus, whatever the-- They were mad at me. Everything's my fault.
- ๋‚˜๋„ ๊ทธ๋žฌ์–ด - ์•„๋‹ˆ์ž–์•„ ๋น„ํ–‰๊ธฐ๋„ ๋†“์น˜๊ณ  ๋ฐฐ๋„ ๋†“์น˜๊ณ  ๋ฒ„์Šค๋„ ๋†“์น˜๊ณ , ๋ญ๊ฐ€ ๋๋“  ๊ทธ๋ž˜๋†“๊ณ  ๋‚˜ํ•œํ…Œ ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋‚ด์ž–์•„ ๋‹ค ๋‚ด ์ž˜๋ชป์ด๋„ค
I apologized, but you never apologize to me, ever, for what you do. So Kim, obviously, is not here. Do you think seeing herself on the show contributed to her realizing she had a problem or... was it bigger than that?
์‚ฌ๊ณผํ–ˆ์ž–์•„ ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์–ธ๋‹ˆ๋Š” ์–ธ๋‹ˆ๊ฐ€ ์ž˜๋ชปํ•œ ๊ฒƒ๋„ ์ ˆ๋Œ€๋กœ ์‚ฌ๊ณผ ์•ˆ ํ•˜์ž–์•„ ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ, ํ‚ด์€ ๋ฌผ๋ก  ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์— ์—†์ง€๋งŒ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ณด๊ธฐ์— ํ‚ด์ด ๋ฐฉ์†ก์—์„œ ์ž๊ธฐ์˜ ๋ชจ์Šต์„ ๋ณด๊ณ  ๋ฌธ์ œ๋ฅผ ๊นจ๋‹ฌ์€ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™๋‚˜์š”? ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๋” ํฐ ๊ณ„๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ์„๊นŒ์š”?
What did she think of the show? I think, to be honest, she didn't watch all the time. It's hard to explain, but Kim, as you know, doesn't show up a lot. She's not that into being on the show.
ํ‚ด์€ ๋ฐฉ์†ก์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ๋‚˜์š”? ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š”, ์†”์งํžˆ ๋งํ•ด ํ‚ด์€ ๋ฐฉ์†ก์„ ๋‹ค ๋ณด์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์–ด์š” ์„ค๋ช…ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์–ด๋ ค์šด๋ฐ์š”, ํ‚ด์€ ์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ ์•ฝ์†์„ ์ž˜ ์ทจ์†Œํ•˜๊ณ  ๋ฐฉ์†ก์— ๋‚˜์˜ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋„ ํฌ๊ฒŒ ๊ด€์‹ฌ์ด ์—†์–ด์š”
She doesn't really care about doing the show. Why-- And she doesn't even watch the show. Why did she, why is she on the show? I thought it would maybe be a good idea for her to, And I thought maybe it would help keep her on track, to be honest.
๋ฐฉ์†ก์„ ์ค‘์š”ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€๋„ ์•Š๊ณ ์š” ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ฐฉ์†ก์„ ๋ณด์ง€๋„ ์•Š์•„์š” ์—ฐ์˜ˆ์ง€๋„ ์ฝ์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ ์š” ๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๋ฉด ์™œ ์ถœ์—ฐํ•œ ๊ฑฐ์ฃ ? ์ „ ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ๋กœ ์–ธ๋‹ˆ์˜ ์ฑ…์ž„๊ฐ์„ ํ‚ค์›Œ์ฃผ๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋„์›€์ด ๋  ๊ฑฐ๋กœ ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์†”์งํžˆ ๋งํ•ด ์–ธ๋‹ˆ์˜ ์‚ถ์˜ ์ค‘์‹ฌ์„ ์žก์•„ ์ฃผ๊ธธ ์›ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”
I think that it was the worst fight we have ever had, but we had both been holding in so much. So after holding so much in for so long, um... And I blew that night, I think that ultimately it ended up helping our relationship, because it brought a lot of dirt up, you know, and made us have had to deal with the situatio...
๊ทธ๋•Œ๊ฐ€ ์–ธ๋‹ˆ์™€ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์‹ฌํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์‹ธ์› ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์€๋ฐ ์ €ํฌ ๋‘˜ ๋‹ค ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋งŽ์ด ์ฐธ๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š” ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์˜ค๋žซ๋™์•ˆ ์Œ“์—ฌ ์™”๋˜ ๊ฒŒ ๊ทธ๋‚  ๋ฐค ํ„ฐ์ ธ๋ฒ„๋ ธ๊ณ  ์†์— ์žˆ๋Š” ์‘์–ด๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋„์ง‘์–ด๋ƒ„์œผ๋กœ์จ ์ƒํ™ฉ์— ์ง๋ฉดํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ์œผ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š”
It appears on the show that I am enabling her, because I didn't want to talk about it, or address it in front of the cameras. When there are no cameras there, I am not an enabler in any way, shape, or form, which is part of her anger towards me.
๋ฐฉ์†ก์—์„œ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋ณด์ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด์š” ์นด๋ฉ”๋ผ ์•ž์—์„œ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋ฅผ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š” ์นด๋ฉ”๋ผ๊ฐ€ ์—†์„ ๋•Œ๋Š” ๊ฒฐ์ฝ” ์–ด๋–ค ์‹์œผ๋กœ๋“  ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฑธ ์šฉ์ธํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋ถ€์ถ”๊ธฐ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์–ด์š” ์–ธ๋‹ˆ๊ฐ€ ์ €ํ•œํ…Œ ๋” ํ™”๊ฐ€ ๋‚œ ์ด์œ ์ด๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•˜๊ณ ์š”
If you look at the whole season, we really didn't have that much interaction with her. Almost her story line was her not showing up. So it was kind of hard, and because we're all quite close. How can you expose something that you're not sure about? Do you know what I mean?
์ด๋ฒˆ ์‹œ์ฆŒ ์ „์ฒด๋ฅผ ๋ณด์‹œ๋ฉด ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ํ‚ด๊ณผ ๊ฑฐ์˜ ์ ‘์ ์ด ์—†์—ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑธ ์•„์‹ค ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š” ํ‚ด์˜ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ๊ฑฐ์˜ ๋‚˜์˜ค์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์ฃ  ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์–ด๋ ค์› ์ฃ  ์ €ํฌ ๋ชจ๋‘ ๊ฐ€๊น๊ฒŒ ์ง€๋‚ด๋Š”๋ฐ ํ™•์‹ค์น˜ ์•Š์€ ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๊ณต๊ฐœํ•˜๊ฒ ์–ด์š”?
So you have to wait for them to take the lead. So as soon as she went into rehab, we're all there, you know, to support her, but it's very difficult you've got to be sensitive, really.
๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‘˜์ด ๋จผ์ € ๋‚˜์„œ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋‹ค๋ ธ์ฃ  ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ํ‚ด์ด ์žฌํ™œ์›์— ๊ฐ€์ž๋งˆ์ž ์ €ํฌ๋„ ํ•จ๊ป˜ํ•˜๋ฉฐ ์‘์›์„ ํ•ด ์คฌ์–ด์š” ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์–ด๋ ค์šด ๋ฌธ์ œ์˜ˆ์š” ์กฐ์‹ฌ์Šค๋Ÿฝ๊ฒŒ ์ ‘๊ทผํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜์ฃ 
Well, she wasn't ready to do that, and I didn't... If I had taken it upon myself to, on a television show come out and say, "My sister has this problem, she's dealing with this," she would have been more angry with me, and my family would have been angry, and it wasn't my place.
ํ‚ด์€ ๊ทธ๋Ÿด ์ค€๋น„๊ฐ€ ๋˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์—ˆ์–ด์š”, ์ „... ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ด๋Œ€๋ฅผ ๋ฉ”๊ณ  ๋ฐฉ์†ก์— ๋‚˜์™€ '์–ธ๋‹ˆ๋Š” ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๊ณ  ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋…ธ๋ ฅ ์ค‘์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค'๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•˜๋ฉด ํ‚ด๋„ ๋” ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋ƒˆ์„ ํ…Œ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๊ฐ€์กฑ๋„ ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€์˜€๊ฒ ์ฃ  ์ „ ๊ทธ๋Ÿด ๊ถŒ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์—†์—ˆ์–ด์š”
Matt from Chicago says, "Everyone knew Taylor was in an abusive relationship, but no one would say anything. Everyone knew Kim had a substance abuse issue, but no one except Brandi would say anything. "Ladies, don't you think keeping quiet does more harm than good?" No, I think it's very difficult for a viewer of the s...
'๋‹นํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑธ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ ์•„๋ฌด ๋ง๋„ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค' 'ํ‚ด์˜ ์ค‘๋… ๋ฌธ์ œ๋„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ' '๋ธŒ๋žœ๋”” ์™ธ์—๋Š” ์•„๋ฌด๋„ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์ฃ ' '์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„, ์นจ๋ฌต์ด ๋” ํฐ ํ”ผํ•ด๋ฅผ ์ž…ํžŒ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋‚˜์š”?' ์•„๋‹ˆ์š”, ์‹œ์ฒญ์ž๋ถ„๋“ค์ด ๋ฐฉ์†ก์„ ํ†ตํ•ด ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ์ƒํ™ฉ์„ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค๋ฃจ๋Š”์ง€ ํŒ๋‹จํ•˜๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ํ•œ๊ณ„๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด์š”
You know, our lives are very open, we show the majority of our lives on television, but there are certain things that we have to deal with privately in our homes.
๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ๋ชจ์Šต์ด ๋ฐฉ์†ก์„ ํ†ตํ•ด ๋ณด์ด์ง€๋งŒ ์‚ฌ์ ์ธ ๊ณณ์—์„œ ๋…ผ์˜ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์ฃ 
I don't shower on the show. -You know, confronting my sister-- -You do the splits. -Really? -Season three. I don't have sex with my husband on the show.
๋ฐฉ์†ก์—์„œ ์ƒค์›Œ๋ฅผ ํ•˜์ง„ ์•Š์ž–์•„์š” - ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์–ธ๋‹ˆ์™€์˜ ๋Œ€๋ฉด์€... - ๋‹ค๋ฆฌ ์ฐข๊ธฐ๋Š” ํ•˜์ฃ  - ์žฅ๋‚œํ•ด์š”? - ์‹œ์ฆŒ 3 ๋ฐฉ์†ก์—์„œ ๋‚จํŽธ๊ณผ ๊ด€๊ณ„๋ฅผ ํ•˜์ง€๋„ ์•Š์ฃ 
-I mean, what-- -Season four. Yeah. -That would be great. -Yeah. Tonight, the reunion concludes. She'd kind of been poking all evening. -Me? -Yeah, you.
- ์ œ ๋ง์€... - ์‹œ์ฆŒ 4 ๋„ค - ๊ทธ๊ฑฐ ๊ต‰์žฅํ•˜๊ฒ ๋‹ค - ๋„ค ์˜ค๋Š˜ ๋ฐค ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰ ์—ํ”ผ์†Œ๋“œ๊ฐ€ ๋ฐฉ์†ก๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค ์ €๋… ๋‚ด๋‚ด ์ฐ”๋Ÿฌ ๋Œ”์œผ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š” - ๋‚˜ ๋ง์ด์—์š”? - ๋„ค, ๋‹น์‹ ์š”
"Did you know? 25,000." -I do. - That's what she says. He grabbed me, threw me in the pool, held me under until I was almost drowning. Can you tell us what you sought treatment for?
'2๋งŒ 5์ฒœ ๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ์•ผ' - ๋งž์•„์š” - ๊ทธ๋žฌ๋‹ค๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š” ์ €๋ฅผ ์žก์•„ ์ˆ˜์˜์žฅ์— ๋˜์ง€๊ณ  ์งˆ์‹ ์ง์ „๊นŒ์ง€ ๋ฌผ์†์— ๋ฐ€์–ด ๋„ฃ์—ˆ์–ด์š” ๋ฌด์—‡ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์น˜๋ฃŒ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›์€ ๊ฑด์ง€ ๋ง์”€ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹œ๊ฒ ์–ด์š”?
Yeah. I'm an alcoholic. I'm an alcoholic. Taylor, we mentioned earlier that you just finished a book. Right after Russell's death, his business associate also committed suicide.
๋„ค, ์ „ ์•Œ์ฝ”์˜ฌ ์ค‘๋…์ž์˜ˆ์š” ์ „ ์•Œ์ฝ”์˜ฌ ์ค‘๋…์ž์˜ˆ์š” ํ…Œ์ผ๋Ÿฌ, ์•„๊นŒ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ–ˆ์ง€๋งŒ ํƒˆ๊ณ ํ–ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ ์š”? ๋Ÿฌ์…€์˜ ์‚ฌ๋ง ์งํ›„์— ๊ทธ์˜ ๋™์—…์ž๋„ ์ž์‚ด์„ ํƒํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ์š”
Do you think the two were related? I have no idea what the link is. There are people that think there's more to it than I know. And they've asked me to come and meet with them.
๋‘ ์ฃฝ์Œ์ด ์—ฐ๊ด€์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์‹œ๋‚˜์š”? ์—ฐ๊ด€์„ฑ์€ ์ „ํ˜€ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์–ด์š” ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ์ด์ƒ์˜ ๋‚ด๋ง‰์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ๋ถ„๋“ค๋„ ์žˆ์ฃ  ๊ทธ๋ถ„๋“ค์ด ์ œ๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋‚จ์„ ์ฒญํ–ˆ๊ณ ์š”
I hate to say it, but it would give me great solace to think that this was at the hands of someone else, as opposed to my husband being in such despair that he took his own life.
์ €์—๊ฒŒ ํฐ ์œ„์•ˆ์ด ๋  ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š” ๋‚จํŽธ์ด ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๊ณ ํ†ต์Šค๋Ÿฌ์›Œ์„œ ์Šค์Šค๋กœ ๋ชฉ์ˆจ์„ ๋Š์—ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์— ๋น„ํ•˜๋ฉด์š”
Oh, so you think that there's a possibility that this could be a murder? We're going to have to stop. So, so having discovered him, what's your gut?
๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋ฉด ํƒ€์‚ด์ผ ๊ฐ€๋Šฅ์„ฑ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์„ธ์š”? ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ๊ทธ๋งŒํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™๋„ค์š” ๊ทธ๋ฅผ ๋ฐœ๊ฒฌํ•œ ์žฅ๋ณธ์ธ์œผ๋กœ์„œ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์‹œ๋‚˜์š”?
A part of your book that really surprised me was that you talk about that Russell used to monitor you, secretly. How did that happen? I guess the first time I found recording devices, I was trying to print a document and it wasn't connecting.
๋‹น์‹  ์ฑ…์„ ์ฝ์œผ๋ฉฐ ์ •๋ง ์ถฉ๊ฒฉ๋ฐ›์•˜๋˜ ๊ฑด ๋Ÿฌ์…€์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ๋ชฐ๋ž˜ ๊ฐ์‹œํ•ด ์™”๋‹ค๋Š” ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด์—ˆ์–ด์š” ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์ด ์ƒ๊ฒผ์ฃ ? ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ฒ˜์Œ์œผ๋กœ ๋…น์Œ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์ฐพ์•„๋‚ธ ๊ฑด ์ œ๊ฐ€ ํ”„๋ฆฐํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ์ด ๋˜์ง€ ์•Š์•„์„œ์˜€์–ด์š”
The computer and the printer had lost the connection. So I crawled under the desk. And I looked up and I saw a recording device, a small tape recorder attached to the bottom of the desk.
์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ์™€ ํ”„๋ฆฐํ„ฐ์˜ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ์ด ๋Š์–ด์ ธ ์žˆ์—ˆ์ฃ  ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ฑ…์ƒ ๋ฐ‘์œผ๋กœ ๊ธฐ์–ด๋“ค์–ด ๊ฐ”์–ด์š” ์œ„๋ฅผ ๋ดค๋Š”๋ฐ ๋…น์Œ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋”๋ผ๊ณ ์š” ์ฑ…์ƒ ๋ฐ‘์— ์ž‘์€ ๋…น์Œ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ํ…Œ์ดํ”„๋กœ ๊ณ ์ •๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์ฃ 
And I pulled it down. And he had been recording me every day when he left for work. Just all day long? Mm-hm. When I was...'cause he knew I'd be in the office all day.
์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๊ฑธ ๋œฏ์–ด๋ƒˆ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ๋งค์ผ ์ œ ์ƒํ™œ์„ ๋…น์Œํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑธ ์•Œ์•˜์ฃ  ์˜จ์ข…์ผ์š”? ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ข…์ผ ์„œ์žฌ์— ์žˆ์„ ๊ฑธ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์œผ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š”
And it, you know, went on from there. I had housekeepers find recording devices. I had recording devices in my cars. He actually had you take a lie detector test once to prove what?
๊ทธ๊ฑด ์‹œ์ž‘์ด์—ˆ์–ด์š” ์ €ํฌ ๋„์šฐ๋ฏธ๋„ ๋…น์Œ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐœ๊ฒฌํ–ˆ๊ณ  ์ œ ์ฐจ์—๋„ ์žˆ์—ˆ์ฃ  ํ•œ๋ฒˆ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ฑฐ์ง“๋ง ํƒ์ง€๊ธฐ ๊ฒ€์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›๊ฒŒ ํ–ˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด์„œ์š”?
I took a polygraph test, um, after a few years of him accusing me of having relationships with people that I hadn't had relationships with. And finally, one day I just said, "Take me."
์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ด€๊ณ„๋„ ์—†๋Š” ๋‚จ์ž๋“ค๊ณผ ๋งŒ๋‚˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ €๋ฅผ ๋ช‡ ๋…„์ด๋‚˜ ์˜์‹ฌํ•ด์„œ ๊ฒ€์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›์•˜์ฃ  ๊ฒฐ๊ตญ ์–ด๋А ๋‚ ์€ ์ œ๊ฐ€ '๊ทธ๋ž˜, ํ•˜์ž'๋ผ๊ณ  ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”
And so we went. And... -And you passed, right? -A hundred percent. The questions were ridiculous. And then what happened after you passed? That or a paid off the examiner.
๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ฒ€์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๋Ÿฌ ๊ฐ”์ฃ  - ํ†ต๊ณผํ•˜์‹  ๊ฑฐ์ฃ ? - 100%์˜€์ฃ  ์งˆ๋ฌธ๋“ค๋„ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์ด์ƒํ–ˆ์–ด์š” ํ†ต๊ณผํ•œ ํ›„์—” ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ์ฃ ? ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ฒ€์‚ฌ๊ด€์„ ๋งค์ˆ˜ํ–ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ ์š”
You also go into detail about how he went on the attack when he overheard you talking to someone who was offering you help. Mm-hm. What happened there? I was at my friends' house.
๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€ ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ๋„์›€์„ ์ฃผ๊ฒ ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•˜๋Š” ์–˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋‚จํŽธ์ด ๋“ฃ๊ณ  ๊ณต๊ฒฉํ–ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๋‚ด์šฉ์„ ์ž์„ธํžˆ ์“ฐ์…จ๋Š”๋ฐ์š” ๋ฌด์Šจ ์ผ์ด ์žˆ๋˜ ๊ฑฐ์ฃ ? ์นœ๊ตฌ์˜ ์ง‘์— ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š”
They were planning their wedding. And I was sitting in their backyard with Russell. He went home, and I stayed to listen to the rest of the wedding planning 'cause he wasn't interested.
๋‘˜์€ ๊ฒฐํ˜ผ์‹์„ ๊ณ„ํšํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ ์š” ์ „ ๋Ÿฌ์…€๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋’ท๋งˆ๋‹น์— ์•‰์•„ ์žˆ์—ˆ์ฃ  ๋Ÿฌ์…€์€ ๋จผ์ € ์ง‘์— ๊ฐ”๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ๊ฒฐํ˜ผ์‹ ๊ณ„ํš์„ ๋“ค์œผ๋ ค๊ณ  ๋‚จ์•„ ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š” ๋Ÿฌ์…€์€ ๊ด€์‹ฌ์ด ์—†์—ˆ๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”
And apparently he was hiding in the bushes. ""if you need any help, we're here for you." We'll get you an apartment, whatever you need." Um, sorry.
์•Œ๊ณ  ๋ณด๋‹ˆ ๋ค๋ถˆ ๋’ค์— ์ˆจ์–ด ์žˆ์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ฑฐ์ฃ  '์–ผ๋งˆ๋“ ์ง€ ๋„์šธ๊ฒŒ์š” ์ง€๋‚ผ ๊ณณ์ด ํ•„์š”ํ•˜๋“  ๋ญ๋“ ' '์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ๋„์šธ๊ฒŒ์š”'๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•ด ์คฌ์ฃ  ์ฃ„์†กํ•ด์š”
And by that point, the friend had come to and was starting to... I think he threw him in first, and then he was starting to make his way out the end of the pool.
๊ทธ๋•Œ ์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ์™”๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋‹ค์Œ์—... ์นœ๊ตฌ ๋‚จํŽธ์„ ๋จผ์ € ๋น ํŠธ๋ ธ๋˜ ๊ฑฐ ๊ฐ™์•„์š” ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ˆ˜์˜์žฅ ๋์—์„œ ๋‚˜์˜ค๋Š” ์ค‘์ด์—ˆ์ฃ 
Um, so he let me go. Threw my girlfriend in the pool, threw the dog in the pool. Went and started a fight, and the guy ended up getting taken away in an ambulance. Um...
๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‚จํŽธ์ด ์ ˆ ๋†จ๊ณ  ์ œ ์นœ๊ตฌ๋„ ์ˆ˜์˜์žฅ์— ์ง‘์–ด ๋˜์ง€๊ณ  ๊ฐœ๋„ ๋˜์กŒ์–ด์š” ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์‹ธ์›€์ด ์‹œ์ž‘๋˜์—ˆ๊ณ  ์นœ๊ตฌ ๋‚จํŽธ์€ ๊ฒฐ๊ตญ ๊ตฌ๊ธ‰์ฐจ์— ์‹ค๋ ค ๊ฐ”์ฃ 
Plastic surgery here, 10,000 dollars in veneers. So did your friend prosecute Russell for this? No, because I asked them not to. I asked them not to do anything, because I was concerned about how Kennedy and I would survive.
์™ธ์ƒ๊ณผ ์„ฑํ˜• ์ˆ˜์ˆ ์— 1๋งŒ ๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ฅผ ์ง€๋ถˆํ–ˆ์ฃ  ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์นœ๊ตฌ๋Š” ๋Ÿฌ์…€์„ ๊ณ ์†Œํ–ˆ๋‚˜์š”? ์•„๋‹ˆ์š”, ์ œ๊ฐ€ ํ•˜์ง€ ๋ง์•„ ๋‹ฌ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถ€ํƒํ–ˆ๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š” ์•„๋ฌด๊ฒƒ๋„ ํ•˜์ง€ ๋ง์•„ ๋‹ฌ๋ผ๊ณ  ํ–ˆ์–ด์š” ์ผ€๋„ค๋””์™€ ์ €์˜ ๋ชฉ์ˆจ์ด ์œ„ํ˜‘๋ฐ›์„๊นŒ ๋ด์š”
It was not an exaggeration, I guess. I read in the book that your jaw was popped out of its socket and you popped it back in yourself? Mm-hm. Over a toilet.
๊ณผ์žฅ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•  ์ˆ˜๋Š” ์—†์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™๊ณ ์š” ๋‹น์‹  ์ฑ…์—์„œ ์ฝ์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ ํ„ฑ์ด ๋น ์กŒ๋Š”๋ฐ ์Šค์Šค๋กœ ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋ผ์› ๋‹ค๊ณ ์š”? ๋ณ€๊ธฐ ์œ„์—์„œ์š”
Brandi, in your blog you wrote, "After my party in Malibu, What'd you mean by that? Just none of it makes sense to me. I guess I'm in the group that thinks that it all doesn't make sense.
๋ธŒ๋žœ๋””, ๋ธ”๋กœ๊ทธ์— ๋‹น์‹ ์€ '๋ง๋ฆฌ๋ถ€ ํŒŒํ‹ฐ ์ดํ›„์—' ์–ด๋–ค ์˜๋ฏธ์—์„œ ์“ฐ์‹  ๊ฑฐ์ฃ ? ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒŒ ๋ง์ด ์•ˆ ๋์–ด์š” ์ „ ์„ค๋ช…์ด ์•ˆ ๋œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์ธ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™๋„ค์š”
It freaks me out as well because he can't defend himself. And I just feel like... I don't even want to talk about it. Like, that's how I feel about the whole situation. So having-- We've discussed this. It just creeps us out altogether.
๋Ÿฌ์…€์€ ์ด์ œ ์ž๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ณ€ํ˜ธํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์—†์ž–์•„์š” ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋А๋ผ๊ธฐ์—... ์–ธ๊ธ‰๋„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€ ์•Š์•„์š” ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋А๋ผ๊ธฐ์— ๋ชจ๋“  ์ƒํ™ฉ์ด ๊ทธ๋ž˜์š” ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ... ์ €ํฌ๋„ ๋Œ€ํ™”ํ–ˆ์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ ์†Œ๋ฆ„ ๋ผ์น˜๋Š” ์ผ์ด์ฃ 
-It creeps us out. -The whole thing, 'cause it's so horrific. I'm sorry what I said about your book. But you said something about me slashing tires.
- ์†Œ๋ฆ„ ๋ผ์ณ์š” - ๋ชจ๋“  ์ผ์ด ๋”์ฐํ•˜์ž–์•„์š” ์ฑ…์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ํ–ˆ๋˜ ๋ง์€ ๋ฏธ์•ˆํ•ด์š” ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋จผ์ € ํƒ€์ด์–ด ์–˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ํ–ˆ์ž–์•„์š”
No, I'm saying, "When someone bites, I bite back." No, wait. You said the book thing first. I just said I was sorry. Kathy from Memphis said, "Taylor, let me get this straight. Russell abused you and smashed your head, yet you stayed with him. But the moment you were going to get tossed out of your housewives circle be...
์•„๋‹ˆ, ๋‚ด ๋ง์€ '์ด์—๋Š” ์ด'๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š” ์ฑ… ์–˜๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ๋จผ์ €์˜€๋‹ค๊ณ ์š” ๋ฐฉ๊ธˆ ๋ฏธ์•ˆํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ–ˆ์ž–์•„์š” ๋ฉคํ”ผ์Šค์—์„œ ์บ์‹œ์˜ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค 'ํ…Œ์ผ๋Ÿฌ, ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ํ•ด ๋ณด์ฃ ' '๋Ÿฌ์…€์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ํ•™๋Œ€ํ•˜๊ณ  ๋จธ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋ถ€์ˆ  ๋™์•ˆ ๋– ๋‚˜์ง€ ์•Š๋‹ค๊ฐ€' '๋Ÿฌ์…€์˜ ์†Œ์†ก ํ˜‘๋ฐ• ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์นœ๊ตฌ๋“ค ๋ฌด๋ฆฌ์—์„œ' 'ํ‡ด์ถœ๋‹นํ•  ์œ„๊ธฐ์— ๋†“์ด์ž๋งˆ์ž ๋งˆ์นจ๋‚ด ์ง‘์„ ๋‚˜์™”์–ด์š”'
"What gives?" It has nothing to do with it, um... I had an MRI result when I found out that I had an orbital floor blow-out. That's what made me leave.
'๋ฌด์Šจ ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?' ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ๋Š” ์•„๋ฌด ์ƒ๊ด€ ์—†์–ด์š” MRI ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์•ˆ์™€๋ฒฝ ๊ณจ์ ˆ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑธ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ์–ด์š” ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋– ๋‚œ ์ด์œ ์˜ˆ์š”
It had nothing to do with the housewives. I know this has been really difficult to re-examine, and so-- And I have a lot of remorse for that. And I have remorse for my husband's death and remorse for letting my child live in a dangerous situation.
์นœ๊ตฌ๋“ค๊ณผ๋Š” ์ „ํ˜€ ๊ด€๊ณ„์—†์—ˆ์–ด์š” ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋˜๋Œ์•„๋ณด๊ธฐ ํž˜๋“  ์–˜๊ธฐ์˜€๋˜ ๊ฑฐ ์•Œ์•„์š”, ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ... ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋ฏธ์•ˆํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ณ ์š” ๋‚จํŽธ์˜ ์ฃฝ์Œ์— ๊ด€ํ•ด์„œ๋„ ํšŒํ•œ์ด ๋งŽ๊ณ ์š” ์ œ ์•„์ด๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ—˜ํ•œ ์ƒํ™ฉ์— ๋…ธ์ถœ์‹œ์ผฐ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ๋„ ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ 
And so now I'm just dusting myself off and hoping that people can forgive and forget. And people that don't like me haven't lived a day in my shoes.
๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ด์ œ๋Š” ๋ฌต์€ ๋จผ์ง€๋ฅผ ํ„ธ์–ด ๋‚ด๊ณ  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์šฉ์„œํ•˜๊ณ  ์žŠ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ผ์š” ์ ˆ ์‹ซ์–ดํ•˜๋Š” ๋ถ„๋“ค์€ ์ œ ์ž…์žฅ์ด ๋ผ ๋ณด์ง€ ๋ชปํ•œ ๋ถ„๋“ค์ด์ฃ 
-Well, best of luck. -Thank you. Joining us now is a fresh face on the 90210 Housewives scene. It is Dana slash Pam. Whoo! -Great, how are you? -Good.
- ๊ทธ๋Ÿผ ํ–‰์šด์„ ๋นŒ์–ด์š” - ๊ณ ๋งˆ์›Œ์š” ์ด๋ฒˆ ์‹œ์ฆŒ์˜ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์–ผ๊ตด์ด ๋‚˜์™€ ์ฃผ์…จ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค ๋ฐ์ด๋‚˜ ํ˜น์€ ํŒธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค - ์•„์ฃผ ์ž˜ ์ง€๋‚ด์ฃ , ๋‹น์‹ ์€์š”? - ์ข‹์•„์š”
-You look fired up and ready to go. -I'm ready. Let's do something. Wow. Oh, my god. -Dare I ask who you're wearing tonight? - I'm not telling. -Actually, check out her shoes. -No, I'm not telling.
- ์ค€๋น„๊ฐ€ ๋˜์–ด ๋ณด์ด๋„ค์š” - ์ค€๋น„๋์ฃ , ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜์ž๊ณ ์š” ๋ง™์†Œ์‚ฌ - ๋“œ๋ ˆ์Šค ์–ด๋”” ๊ฑด์ง€ ๋ฌผ์–ด๋„ ๋ผ์š”? - ๊ทธ๊ฑด ๋ง์”€ ๋ชป ๋“œ๋ ค์š” - ์Ÿค ์‹ ๋ฐœ ์ข€ ๋ด์š” - ์•„๋‹ˆ, ์–˜๊ธฐ ์•ˆ ํ•  ๊ฑฐ์•ผ
-No, turn again. -No, I'm not telling ever again. Show the shoes. Oh, this is how I feel all season long, but I never say it. - -You basically do say it. I do, right?
- ์•„๋‹ˆ์•ผ, ์ข€ ๋Œ๋ ค ๋ด - ๋‹ค์‹œ๋Š” ๋ง ์•ˆ ํ•  ๊ฑฐ์•ผ ์‹ ๋ฐœ ์ข€ ๋ณด์—ฌ ์ค˜ ์ด๊ฒŒ ๋ฐ”๋กœ ์‹œ์ฆŒ ๋‚ด๋‚ด ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋А๋‚€ ๊ฐ์ •์ด์—์š”, ๋ง๋กœ๋Š” ์•ˆ ํ•˜๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ - ๋งํ•œ ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€์ฃ  - ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ ?
They're actually a middle finger with a diamond on it. -I thought that was hot. -Perfect. That's perfect. -Just classing it up a little higher. -Exactly, exactly.
์š•์ด์ง€๋งŒ ๋‹ค์ด์•„๋ชฌ๋“œ๊ฐ€ ๋ฐ•ํ˜€ ์žˆ์ฃ  - ์„น์‹œํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์–ด์š” - ์ข‹๊ตฐ์š”, ์™„๋ฒฝํ•ด์š” - ํ’ˆ์œ„๋ฅผ ๋” ๋†’์—ฌ ์ฃผ์ฃ  - ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š”