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I don't think that. You think that. No... She just kept getting madder and madder. You're such a liar, Camille. You know, the person that remains in control... is someone that wins.
๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ๋„ค ์ƒ๊ฐ์ด๊ฒ ์ง€ ์นด์ผ์€ ๋” ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋ƒˆ์–ด์š” ์ฃผ๋‘ฅ์ด๋งŒ ์—ด๋ฉด ๊ฑฐ์ง“๋ง์ด๋„ค, ์นด๋ฐ€ ํ‰์ •์‹ฌ์„ ์žƒ์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์ตœํ›„์˜ ์Šน์ž๊ฐ€ ๋˜๋Š” ๋ฒ•์ด์ฃ 
She lost her cool. Sorry, Kyle... you lose. I've never had a problem like this with a woman in my life. I don't get it. My husband is an A-list celebrity. He's respected in his community.
์นด์ผ์€ ํฅ๋ถ„ํ–ˆ์–ด์š” ๋„ค๊ฐ€ ์กŒ์–ด, ์นด์ผ ์‚ด๋ฉด์„œ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ผ ๊ฒช์€ ์ ์ด ์—†๋Š”๋ฐ ์ •๋ง ์ดํ•ด๊ฐ€ ์•ˆ ๋ผ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋‚จํŽธ์€ A๊ธ‰ ์—ฐ์˜ˆ์ธ์ด์ฃ  ๋†’์€ ํ‰๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด์—์š”
There's a big difference between that and the... local Beverly Hills realtor. I received this text from Camille. She said something like... Okay... So, let's start with the remark.
๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋ฐ”๋กœ ํฐ ์ฐจ์ด์ ์ด์—์š” ๊ฒจ์šฐ ๋ฒ ๋ฒŒ๋ฆฌํž์Šค ๋ถ€๋™์‚ฐ์—…์ž๋ž‘์€ ๋‹ค๋ฅด์ฃ  ์นด๋ฐ€ํ•œํ…Œ ๋ฌธ์ž๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›์•˜์–ด์š” ๋‚ด์šฉ์ด ๋ญ๋ƒ๋ฉด ์ž, ๋ฐœ์–ธ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์–˜๊ธฐํ•ด ๋ณด์ฃ 
Could we really talk about what really was said? Talk to me, what did you hear... Kyle say about your trip to Hawaii? Okay, we were discussing... And that's the first time you've actually even said that one, Camille. Be honest.
์ง„์งœ ๋‚˜๋ˆด๋˜ ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋งํ•ด๋„ ๋˜๋‚˜์š”? ๋งํ•˜์„ธ์š”, ์นด์ผ์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ํ•˜์™€์ด ์—ฌํ–‰์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ญ๋ผ๊ณ  ํ–ˆ์ฃ ? ๋ด„ ๋ฐฉํ•™ ์—ฌํ–‰์— ๊ด€ํ•ด ์–˜๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ ๋ฐฉ๊ธˆ ๊ทธ ๋ง์€ ๋„ˆ๋„ ์ง€๊ธˆ ์ฒ˜์Œ ํ•œ ๊ฑฐ์ž–์•„
-I never said that. -I'm being honest. Have you ever said that once the whole season? I've had enough of you bullying me, and now is my time to take my power and tell you you're wrong. Go right ahead, but that not the truth.
- ํ•œ ์  ์—†๋‹ค๊ณ  - ์ง„์‹ค์„ ์–˜๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์•ผ ์ด๋ฒˆ ์‹œ์ฆŒ์—์„œ ๊ทธ ๋ง์„ ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ์ด๋ผ๋„ ํ•œ ์  ์žˆ๋‹ˆ? ํƒœ์›€์€ ๋„ˆํ•œํ…Œ ์ถฉ๋ถ„ํžˆ ๋‹นํ–ˆ์–ด ์ด์ œ๋Š” ๋„ค ์ž˜๋ชป์„ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋งํ•  ์ฐจ๋ก€์•ผ
No, 'cause you called me delusional, and this is what happened. So, then she kept asking me about the trip. -It wasn't even a big deal. -I never said that, Camille.
๋‚˜ํ•œํ…Œ ํ”ผํ•ด๋ง์ƒ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ–ˆ์ž–์•„ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜์„œ ์—ฌํ–‰์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๊ณ„์†ํ•ด์„œ ๋ฌผ์–ด๋ดค์–ด์š” - ๋ณ„์ผ๋„ ์•„๋‹ˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š” - ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋ง ์•ˆ ํ–ˆ์–ด
-But, Kyle, it's not a big deal. -Camille, can I just say something since we can be honest here? -Since we're talking about the show? -You've never been honest.
- ์นด์ผ, ๋ณ„์ผ ์•„๋‹ˆ์ž–์•„ - ์นด๋ฐ€, ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„  ์ œ๋ฐœ ์†”์งํ•ด์ง€์ž - ์‡ผ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์–˜๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ - ๋„Œ ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ๋„ ์†”์งํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์–ด
You've never been honest. This whole season was set up to make me look bad. -And this was the honest truth. -Camille, you've done that to yourself.
๋„ค๊ฐ€ ์†”์งํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์ง€ ์ด๋ฒˆ ์‹œ์ฆŒ ์ „์ฒด๊ฐ€ ์ €๋ฅผ ๋‚˜์˜๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“ค๋ ค๊ณ  ์งœ์ธ ํŒ์ด์—์š” ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๊ฑด ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ด์•ผ - ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด... - ๋„ค๊ฐ€ ์ž์ดˆํ•œ ๊ฑฐ์ง€
Okay, can you ask me now what was said that day? What did you hear that day? First of all, Camille, you were brought into this show, let's be honest, -because I called you up and I said... -Yes. -I'm not really that interested in it. -Can I talk for a minute?
๊ทธ๋‚  ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋“ค์€ ๊ฑด ๋ญ”์ง€ ๋ฌผ์–ด๋ด ์ค„๋ž˜์š”? ๋ฌด์Šจ ์–˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์œผ์…จ์ฃ ? ๋ฌด์—‡๋ณด๋‹ค, ์นด๋ฐ€ ๋„ค๊ฐ€ ์ด ์‡ผ์— ์ถœ์—ฐํ•œ ๊ฑด - ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋„ˆํ•œํ…Œ ์ „ํ™”ํ•ด์„œ - ๊ทธ๋ž˜ - ๋ณ„๋กœ ๊ด€์‹ฌ ์—†๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ–ˆ์—ˆ์ž–์•„ - ๋‚ด ์–˜๊ธฐ ์ข€ ํ•ด๋„ ๋ ๊นŒ?
So, she was not into it. -She really wasn't. -You knew each other? As my husband's clients. -Right, because of Mauricio. -Right. Okay. She was not into it.
์นด๋ฐ€์€ ์ •๋ง๋กœ ๊ด€์‹ฌ์ด ์—†์—ˆ์–ด์š” - ์›๋ž˜ ์•„๋Š” ์‚ฌ์ด์˜ˆ์š”? - ๋‚จํŽธ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ด๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š” - ๋งˆ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์‹œ์˜ค ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด๊ตฐ์š” - ๋„ค ์นด๋ฐ€์€ ์‡ผ ์ถœ์—ฐ์— ๊ด€์‹ฌ ์—†์–ด ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”
Why shouldn't you have something, you know? And I said, "Oh, wow, oh, my god. You must be tired. Here we've been in Vegas all weekend. 'Cause I'm thinking that's normal for your husband to meet you on spring break.
๋ณธ์ธ๋งŒ์˜ ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒŒ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒ ๋ƒ๊ณ ์š” ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ œ๊ฐ€ '์–ด๋จธ, ํ”ผ๊ณคํ•˜๊ฒ ๋‹ค'๋ผ๊ณ  ํ–ˆ์ฃ  ์ฃผ๋ง ๋‚ด๋‚ด ๋ผ์Šค๋ฒ ์ด๊ฑฐ์Šค์— ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š” ๋‚จํŽธ์ด ํœด๊ฐ€์— ๋งŒ๋‚˜๋Ÿฌ ์˜ค๋Š” ๊ฒŒ ์ €ํ•œํ…Œ๋Š” ๋‹น์—ฐํ•˜๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š”
And I feel that you might have a problem with this. You felt that. But I didn't. Why would I want you on the show and then not want them to film you, Camille?
๋„ค๊ฐ€ ๋ฌด์Šจ ๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์„์ง€๋„ ๋ชจ๋ฅธ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋А๊ผˆ์ง€ ๋А๊ผˆ๋‹ค๊ณ ? ์•„๋‹ˆ์•ผ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์ถœ์—ฐ์„ ๊ถŒ์œ ํ•ด ๋†“๊ณ  ๋„ ์ดฌ์˜ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑธ ์‹ซ์–ดํ•  ์ด์œ ๊ฐ€ ์—†์ž–์•„
It actually is an insecurity issue because what you heard... What you heard was... Yes. ...why would anyone be interested in you without your... big star husband?
์ด๊ฒŒ ๋ฐ”๋กœ ๋ถˆ์•ˆ์ •ํ•จ์˜ ๋ฌธ์ œ์ฃ  ์นด๋ฐ€์ด ๋“ค์€ ์–˜๊ธฐ... ์นด๋ฐ€์ด ๋“ค์€ ๊ฑด ์ด๊ฑฐ์ž–์•„์š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์นด๋ฐ€ํ•œํ… ๊ด€์‹ฌ์ด ์—†๊ณ  ์ธ๊ธฐ ์Šคํƒ€ ๋‚จํŽธ์ด ์žˆ์–ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค?
That's what it turned into. That's how you felt, but I never said that. I never thought Kelsey would ever be filmed in this show. -And you said... -Why wouldn't they shoot you?
๋„ค, ๋งž์•„์š” ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋“ค์—ˆ์–ด์š” ๋‚˜ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋ง ์•ˆ ํ–ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋‚œ ์ผˆ์‹œ๊ฐ€ ์ด ์‡ผ์— ๋‚˜์˜ฌ ๊ฑฐ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐ๋„ ์•ˆ ํ–ˆ์–ด - ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๊ณค... - ์™œ ๋„ˆ๋ฅผ ์•ˆ ์ฐ๊ฒ ์–ด?
They were shooting the six of us, and I wanted you on the show. I wanted you on the show. Kyle, stop. You bully me all the time. No, I'm not. -Oh, no, it's you are a bully. -Who advised you to use that word?
์šฐ๋ฆฌ 6๋ช…์„ ์ฐ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋„ˆ ์‡ผ์— ๋‚˜์˜ค๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด์ž–์•„ ๋„ค๊ฐ€ ์‡ผ์— ๋‚˜์˜ค๊ธธ ๋ฐ”๋ž€๋‹ค๊ณ  ์นด์ผ, ๋„Œ ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋‚  ํƒœ์› ์ž–์•„ - ๋‚  ํƒœ์šด ๊ฑด ๋„ˆ์•ผ - ๋ˆ„๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ ๋‹จ์–ด ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์ณ ์คฌ์–ด?
And you started the whole delusional thing, so everybody in America thinks I'm delusional. No, because you say things that aren't true, Camille. -You've done it to yourself. -That is not...
๋„ค๊ฐ€ ๋ง์ƒ ์–˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์ž–์•„ ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ ์ „๋ถ€๊ฐ€ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋ง์ƒ์— ๋น ์กŒ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด ๋„ค๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•ด์„œ ๋„ค๊ฐ€ ์—†๋Š” ์†Œ๋ฆฌ ํ•˜๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ - ๋„ˆ ์ž์‹ ๋„ ์†์ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์ž–์•„ - ์•„๋‹ˆ์•ผ
I am not a liar. I don't lie. Well, let me ask you a question. Why would I have a problem with that? -You were getting uptight. -Why? Why did I ask you to join the cast then?
๋‚˜ ๊ฑฐ์ง“๋ง ์•ˆ ํ•ด ํ•˜๋‚˜๋งŒ ๋ฌป์ž, ์™œ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ ์—ฌํ–‰์„ ๋ชป๋งˆ๋•…ํ•ดํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ? - ์ดˆ์กฐํ•˜๋‹ˆ๊นŒ - ์™œ? ๊ทธ๋Ÿผ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์™œ ๋„ˆํ•œํ…Œ ๊ฐ™์ด ์ถœ์—ฐํ•˜์ž๊ณ  ํ–ˆ๊ฒ ์–ด?
This has nothing to do with joining the cast. Yes, it does, Camille. Because I thought that you would be a great addition, because of the way you look, because of your beautiful homes. Why wouldn't I want that shown? 'Cause you needed a target.
์ถœ์—ฐ์ด๋ž‘์€ ์ƒ๊ด€์—†๋Š” ๋ฌธ์ œ์ž–์•„! ์ƒ๊ด€์žˆ์–ด ๋„ค๊ฐ€ ์ถœ์—ฐํ•˜๋ฉด ์ข‹์„ ๊ฑฐ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋„Œ ์˜ˆ์˜๊ณ  ๋„ค ์ง‘๋„ ์ข‹์œผ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์™œ ๊ทธ๊ฑธ ๊ฐ€๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ถ๊ฒ ์–ด? ๋„Œ ๊ดด๋กญํž ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ํ•„์š”ํ•˜์ž–์•„
Do you think she set you up? You think she set you up? No, I don't think she set me up. I don't think she set me up. Hold on. What do you think?
์นด๋ฐ€, ์ œ๋ฐœ ์นด์ผ์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ๋ซ์— ๋น ๋œจ๋ ธ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด์š”? ์•„๋‹ˆ์š” ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง„ ์•Š์•„์š” ๋„ˆ ํŽธ์ง‘์ฆ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์•ผ ๊ทธ๋Ÿผ ๋ฌด์Šจ ๋ง์ด์—์š”?
Because you said she bullied you and ruined your reputation. -She did. - If you had not done that in Vegas, none of this would have happened. I want to know how she bullied you and ruined your reputation.
์นด์ผ์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ๊ดด๋กญํžˆ๊ณ  ํ‰ํŒ์„ ๋‚˜์˜๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“ค์—ˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด์„œ์š” - ๋„ค, ๊ทธ๋ž˜์š” - ์นด์ผ์ด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ํ–ˆ์ฃ ? ๋ผ์Šค๋ฒ ์ด๊ฑฐ์Šค๋งŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ์—ˆ์–ด๋„ ๋‹ค ์—†์—ˆ์„ ์ผ์ด์•ผ ์นด์ผ์ด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๊ดด๋กญํžˆ๊ณ  ํ‰ํŒ์„ ๋ง์ณค๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑด์ง€ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ด์š”
Because she'd keep, any time we were together, she'd keep saying I attack her. I've never attacked you. Well, Jerry, from Lebanon, Ohio, says, ""Camille, you're very sneaky." You provoke trouble, and then switch over and play the victim. "Why do you always see yourself as the victim?" Do I see myself as the victim?
์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋งŒ๋‚  ๋•Œ๋งˆ๋‹ค ๋ณธ์ธ์ด ๊ณต๊ฒฉ๋ฐ›์•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ–ˆ์œผ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š” ๋„ˆ ๊ณต๊ฒฉํ•œ ์  ์—†์–ด ์˜คํ•˜์ด์˜ค ๋ ˆ๋ฐ”๋…ผ์˜ ์ œ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ฌผ์–ด๋ณด๋„ค์š” '์นด๋ฐ€, ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ตํ™œํ•ด์š”' '๋ฌธ์ œ๋ฅผ ์ผ์œผ์ผœ ๋†“๊ณ  ํ”ผํ•ด์ž์ธ ์ฒ™ํ•˜์ฃ ' '์™œ ํ•ญ์ƒ ์ž๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ํ”ผํ•ด์ž๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ฃ ?' ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ ˆ ํ”ผํ•ด์ž๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋ƒ๊ณ ์š”?
God, I don't know. That's a good question. Play sneaky. What do you mean, play sneaky? I don't understand that. I mean, I know I grin and I grimace a lot... When I get nervous, I laugh.
์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด ๋ณธ ์  ์—†๋Š”๋ฐ ๊ตํ™œ์ด๋ผ๋‹ˆ ์ข‹์€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด๋„ค์š” ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ตํ™œํ•˜๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒŒ ๋ฌด์Šจ ๋œป์ด์ฃ ? ์ „ ์ž์ฃผ ์›ƒ๊ณ  ์ฐก๊ทธ๋ ค์š” ๊ธด์žฅํ•˜๋ฉด ํฌ๊ฒŒ ์›ƒ์ฃ 
You know, at the table when we were in New York, I was terrified. I felt like I was under attack by Kyle. I know she felt the opposite, so I felt like I was under attack.
๋‰ด์š•์—์„œ ๋ฐฅ ๋จน์„ ๋•Œ ๋‚œ ์ •๋ง ๋ฌด์„œ์› ์–ด ์นด์ผํ•œํ…Œ ๊ณต๊ฒฉ๋‹นํ•˜๋Š” ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์ด์—ˆ๊ฑฐ๋“  ์นด์ผ์€ ๋ฐ˜๋Œ€๋กœ ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์„ ๊ฑฐ์•ผ
-Upstairs, I apologized to you. - Yes. Even though I didn't say those things, I wanted to make peace. And I thought, whatever I have to say to make peace.
- ์œ„์—์„œ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์‚ฌ๊ณผํ–ˆ์ž–์•„ - ์‘ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋ง ํ•œ ์ ์€ ์—†์ง€๋งŒ ํ‰ํ™”๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•ด ์‚ฌ๊ณผํ•œ ๊ฑฐ์•ผ ํ‰ํ™”๋ฅผ ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ๋ฌด์Šจ ๋ง์ด๋“  ํ•ด์•ผ ํ–ˆ์–ด
And then when the cameras were down, you came and attacked me... I didn't attack you. ... and Lisa. Yes, you did. You attacked us both... Yes... ...off-camera at the bar. Yes, hold on a second. What happened in that timeframe? When we were upstairs... Now, this is where it goes wrong. Taylor said something to Camille. ...
๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ์นด๋ฉ”๋ผ๊ฐ€ ๊บผ์ง€๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ๋„ค๊ฐ€ ๋‚  ๊ณต๊ฒฉํ–ˆ์ž–์•„ ๋‚˜ ๊ณต๊ฒฉ ์•ˆ ํ–ˆ์–ด ๋ฆฌ์‚ฌ๊นŒ์ง€ ๊ณต๊ฒฉํ–ˆ์ž–์•„ ์ž ๊น๋งŒ ๊ทธ์‚ฌ์ด์— ๋ฌด์Šจ ์ผ์ด ์žˆ๋˜ ๊ฑฐ์•ผ? ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์œ„์ธต์— ์žˆ์„ ๋•Œ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์ผ์ด ๊ผฌ์˜€๋Š”๋ฐ ํ…Œ์ผ๋Ÿฌ๊ฐ€ ์นด๋ฐ€ํ•œํ…Œ ์–ด๋–ค ๋ง์„ ํ•œ ๋’ค์— ์นด๋ฐ€์ด ํ™”๊ฐ€ ๋‚ฌ์–ด
And Camille got very upset. The cameras were down. She came downstairs and confronted us. Talk about catty. Why go and do that? Why go upstairs and stir up the pot?
์นด๋ฐ€์€ ์—„์ฒญ ํ™”๋‚ฌ๊ณ  ์นด๋ฉ”๋ผ๊ฐ€ ๊บผ์กŒ์–ด ์•„๋ž˜์ธต์œผ๋กœ ๋‚ด๋ ค์™€์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋ž‘ ๋ถ€๋”ชํ˜”์ž–์•„ ๋งํ•ด ๋ด, ํ…Œ์ผ๋Ÿฌ ์™œ ์ผ์„ ํœ˜์ “๊ณ  ๋‹ค๋…€?
-But that didn't have anything to do... -It was unnecessary. Listen, if I could rewind, I would never have even had any conversation about it. Taylor, why did you stir it up and then not own it?
- ๊ทธ๊ฑฐ๋ž‘ ์ด๊ฑด ๋ณ„๊ฐœ์•ผ - ๋ถˆํ•„์š”ํ•œ ๋ง์ด์•ผ ์ผ์„ ๋Œ๋ฆด ์ˆ˜๋งŒ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์•„๋ฌด ๋ง๋„ ์•ˆ ํ•  ๊ฑฐ์•ผ ํ…Œ์ผ๋Ÿฌ, ์™œ ํœ˜์ “๊ณ  ๋‚˜์„œ ์ธ์ •ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์ฃ ?
But I didn't stir it up. That sounds like stirring the pot a little bit. But it was not intentional. When I said the word insecure, I didn't know the very last thing Kyle said to her was, -So, when she heard me say insecure... -So, that struck a chord in me.
์ œ๊ฐ€ ์•ˆ ํ–ˆ์œผ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š” ๊ทธ ๋ง์ด ์ผ์„ ํœ˜์ €์€ ๊ฑฐ ๊ฐ™์€๋ฐ์š”? ์ผ๋ถ€๋Ÿฌ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฑด ์•„๋‹ˆ์ฃ  ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ถˆ์•ˆํ•˜๋‹ค๋Š” ๋‹จ์–ด๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ ์นด์ผ์ด ์นด๋ฐ€ํ•œํ…Œ ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰์œผ๋กœ ํ•œ ๋ง์ด - ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์นด๋ฐ€์ด ๊ทธ ๋‹จ์–ด๋ฅผ ๋“ฃ๊ณ  - ๊ทธ ๋ง์ด ๋‚  ํ”๋“ค์—ˆ์–ด
-That struck a chord in her. And then... -Instantly. And, I... - Why did that strike a chord? -Why, because... People say that people who are insecure are the people who react the strongest against the word insecure.
- ๊ทธ ๋‹จ์–ด์— ๋ฐ˜์‘ํ•œ ๊ฑฐ์ฃ  - ์ฆ‰์‹œ - ์™œ ๊ทธ ๋ง์ด ์‹ ๊ฒฝ ์“ฐ์˜€์ฃ ? - ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด... ๋ถˆ์•ˆํ•˜๋‹ค๋Š” ๋ง์„ ๋“ค์—ˆ์„ ๋•Œ ์ง„์งœ๋กœ ๋ถˆ์•ˆํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๋งŒ ๊ทธ ๋‹จ์–ด์— ๊ฒฉํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋ฐ˜์‘ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๋ง ์•„์‹œ์ฃ ?
Tonight. We're not supposed to be good. What he wanted, we weren't prepared to give him. What do you think Kyle has done to your reputation? I would not necessarily believe what you think you know about Lisa.
์˜ค๋Š˜ ๋ฐค ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ ์–Œ์ „ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๊ตฌ๋Š” ๊ฑด ์šฉ๋‚ฉ ๋ชป ํ•ด ์„ธ๋“œ๋ฆญ์ด ์›ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑธ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ค„ ์ค€๋น„๊ฐ€ ์•ˆ ๋์—ˆ์ฃ  ์นด์ผ์ด ๋‹น์‹  ํ‰ํŒ์— ์–ด๋–ค ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ์คฌ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋‚˜์š”? ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ฆฌ์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ฏฟ์„ ํ•„์š”๋„ ์—†์ฃ 
-What you just said was so catty. -Yeah, it was catty. You're right. She was a nasty piece of work, and she was looking for trouble. Is there love in the marriage? Oh, stop that.
- ๋„ค๊ฐ€ ๋ฐฉ๊ธˆ ํ•œ ๋ง๋„ ์ž”์ธํ•ด - ์ž”์ธํ–ˆ์ง€, ๋„ค ๋ง์ด ๋งž์•„ ์•จ๋ฆฌ์Šจ์€ ๋น„์—ดํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด๊ณ  ๋ฌธ์ œ๋ฅผ ์ผ์œผํ‚ค๊ธธ ๋ฐ”๋ž์–ด ์‚ฌ๋ž‘์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒฐํ˜ผ์ธ๊ฐ€์š”? ๊ทธ๋งŒํ•˜์„ธ์š”
Did everyone here sign prenups? Of course. Everything is a setup. Here we go again. Welcome to Beverly Hills. I think doing porno is a lot more corrupt than doing a tasteful spread in Playboy. I've never met a more despicable person in my life.
๊ฒฐํ˜ผ ๊ณ„์•ฝ์„œ ์“ฐ์…จ๋‚˜์š”? ๋‹น์—ฐํ•˜์ฃ  ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒŒ ์กฐ์ž‘๋์–ด์š” ๋˜ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•œ๋‹ค ์—ฌ๊ธด ๋ฒ ๋ฒŒ๋ฆฌํž์Šค์ž–์•„์š” 'ํ”Œ๋ ˆ์ด๋ณด์ด' ํ™”๋ณด๋ณด๋‹ค ํฌ๋ฅด๋…ธ๊ฐ€ ๋” ํƒ€๋ฝํ–ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด ํƒœ์–ด๋‚˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋น„์—ดํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€ ๋งŒ๋‚˜ ๋ณธ ์  ์—†์–ด์š”
Stop it. You are a liar and sick and an alcoholic. Do you have a drinking problem? Do you think that Kyle is jealous of you? No, I don't. Well, now you say that after you realize that everyone has laughed at you for saying that for a whole season, so...
์–ธ๋‹ˆ๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์ง“๋ง์Ÿ์ด์— ์•Œ์ฝ”์˜ฌ ์ค‘๋…์ž์•ผ! ์•Œ์ฝ”์˜ฌ ์ค‘๋… ๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”? ์นด์ผ์ด ๋ณธ์ธ์„ ์งˆํˆฌํ•˜๋‚˜์š”? ์•„๋‹ˆ์š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋„ค ํ–‰๋™์„ ๋น„์›ƒ์œผ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ์ด์ œ์•ผ ๊นจ๋‹ฌ์•˜๋‚˜ ๋ณด๋„ค
-Ouch. That's harsh. - I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You're the one who said all season that I was. -Now, the blogs have all said... -That, but... That was so catty.
- ์ƒ์ฒ˜ ์ฃผ๋„ค - ๋ฏธ์•ˆ ๋ฏธ์•ˆ, ๋„Œ ์‹œ์ฆŒ ๋‚ด๋‚ด ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์งˆํˆฌํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ–ˆ์ž–์•„ - ์ด์ œ ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด... - ์ž”์ธํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด์•ผ
-What you just said was so catty. -Yeah, it was catty. You're right, that was. But you have said that all season. -But that's how you act towards me. -Hey, I don't hide.
- ๋„ค๊ฐ€ ๋ฐฉ๊ธˆ ํ•œ ๋ง๋„ ์ž”์ธํ•ด - ์ž”์ธํ–ˆ์ง€, ๋„ค ๋ง์ด ๋งž์•„ - ๋„Œ ์‹œ์ฆŒ ๋‚ด๋‚ด ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ–ˆ์–ด - ๋„ค๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ–‰๋™ํ–ˆ์œผ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ๋‚œ ์ˆจ๊ธฐ์ง€ ์•Š์•„
I am not hiding anything. What do you think that Kyle has done to your reputation? She said this one word "delusional," I don't know what other word to use when I say, when someone says one thing and you hear something else.
๋‚œ ์ˆจ๊ธฐ๋Š” ๊ฑฐ ์—†์–ด ์นด์ผ์ด ๋‹น์‹  ํ‰ํŒ์— ์–ด๋–ค ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ์คฌ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋‚˜์š”? ํ•œ ๋‹จ์–ด๋ฅผ ๋งํ–ˆ์ฃ  '๋ง์ƒ' ๊ทธ๊ฑฐ ๋ง๊ณ  ๋ฌด์Šจ ๋‹จ์–ด๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•ด์•ผ ํ• ์ง€ ๋ชฐ๋ž์–ด ๋ˆ„๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋–ค ๋ง์„ ํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ ๋‹ค๋ฅด๊ฒŒ ์•Œ์•„๋“ค์—ˆ์ž–์•„
I don't know another word for that, I apologize. I don't believe that you made that up. I don't... I believe that you hear that. I believe you heard that.
๊ทธ ๋‹จ์–ด๋ฐ–์— ์ƒ๊ฐ ์•ˆ ๋‚˜ ์‚ฌ๊ณผํ• ๊ฒŒ ๋„ค๊ฐ€ ์ง€์–ด๋ƒˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐ ์•ˆ ํ•ด ๋„ค๊ฐ€ ์ •๋ง ๋“ค์—ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด ๋„ค๊ฐ€ ๋“ค์—ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ฏฟ์–ด
- I believe that. I really do. -But you're saying that I make things up in my mind. And I'm sorry. I don't. I think you hear things differently than what people are saying. I... I don't think you make it up. I think that you hear that. No. I'm gonna disagree with you on that. Okay, that's fine. I think that wouldn't be...
- ์ •๋ง๋กœ - ๋„ค๊ฐ€ ์ง€์–ด๋‚ธ ๋ง์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ํ–ˆ์ž–์•„ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑธ ๋„ค๊ฐ€ ๋‹ค๋ฅด๊ฒŒ ๋“ฃ๋Š”๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด ๋„ค๊ฐ€ ์ง€์–ด๋‚ธ ๊ฒŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ์ •๋ง ๋“ค์—ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด ๊ทธ ๋ง์— ๋™์˜ ๋ชป ํ•ด ๊ทธ๋ž˜, ์ƒ๊ด€์—†์–ด ์ฒ˜์Œ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ผ๋„ ์•„๋‹Œ๋ฐ
- Did I say that to her? -I think I already did. I mean, I was, I was there... I was definitely there and overheard the conversation. And it was, basically, "So, you know, what are you doing?
- ํ•  ๋ง ์žˆ์œผ์„ธ์š”? - ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ–ˆ์–ด? ์ „ ์ด๋ฏธ ๋งํ•œ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š” ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ ์ž๋ฆฌ์— ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ  ๋ถ„๋ช… ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋“ค์—ˆ์–ด์š” ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๋ญ ํ•˜๋ƒ๊ณ  ๋ฌป๋Š” ์ผ์ƒ์ ์ธ ๋Œ€ํ™”์˜€์–ด์š”
And she mentioned a couple things she was gonna do. Kyle was like, "Oh, that's cool." And the next thing I know, she's crying. Well, let me ask you this, is this a side to Kyle that you've seen?
๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๊ณ  ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๊ณ„ํš์„ ๋” ๋งํ–ˆ์ฃ  ์นด์ผ์€ '์žฌ๋ฐŒ๊ฒ ๋‹ค'๋ผ๊ณ  ํ–ˆ์–ด์š” ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ์นด์ผ์ด ์šธ์—ˆ์–ด์š” ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด ์žˆ์–ด์š”, ํ‚ด์ด ๋ณธ ์นด์ผ์˜ ์ž…์žฅ์„ ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์ฃ ?
Is Kyle a bully? No, not, not normally. I've, I've never seen Kyle be a bully before. -I've never seen her... -I've seen her bully you. No, Kyle's not a bully. I'm sorry. I'm gonna stand up and defend of her.
์นด์ผ์ด ์นด๋ฐ€์„ ๊ดด๋กญํ˜”๋‚˜์š”? ์•„๋‹ˆ์š”, ์ „ํ˜€์š” ์นด์ผ์€ ๋ˆ„๊ตด ๊ดด๋กญํžˆ์ง€ ์•Š์•„์š” - ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ๋„ ๋ณธ ์ ... - ๋‚œ ์นด์ผ์ด ๋„ˆ ๊ดด๋กญํžˆ๋Š” ๊ฑฐ ๋ดค์–ด ์นด์ผ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์•  ์•„๋‹ˆ์•ผ, ๋ฏธ์•ˆ ์นด์ผ์„ ์˜นํ˜ธํ•ด์•ผ๊ฒ ์–ด
This was a, a misunderstanding. It went horribly wrong, and it just gathered momentum. Kyle is not a bully. I won't let her have that label. - Well, I feel that Kyle... -I speak my mind, but I'm not a bully. -I feel... -You felt... You felt under attack.
์ด๊ฑด ๋‹ค ์˜คํ•ด์—์„œ ๋น„๋กฏ๋œ ์ผ์ด์•ผ ๋”์ฐํ•  ์ •๋„๋กœ ์ž˜๋ชป๋๊ณ  ์ƒํ™ฉ์ด ์•…ํ™”๋์ง€ ์นด์ผ์€ ๊ดด๋กญํžˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ์•ผ ์นด์ผ์ด ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์น˜๋ถ€๋˜๋Š” ๊ฑฐ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์šฉ๋‚ฉ ๋ชป ํ•ด - ๋‚œ ์†”์งํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ, ๊ดด๋กญํžˆ์ง„ ์•Š์•„ - ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋А๊ผˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  - ๋‚ด ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์€... - ๊ณต๊ฒฉ๋‹นํ•œ ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์ด์—ˆ๊ฒ ์ง€
- You did, at that, that time. -Yes, I did. In the course that we've been sitting here, you blamed Kyle for... bullying you and kind of setting you up on the show.
- ๊ทธ ๋‹น์‹œ์— ๋ง์ด์•ผ - ์‘ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ์•‰์•„ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋™์•ˆ์— ์นด๋ฐ€์€ ์นด์ผ์ด ์ž์‹ ์„ ๊ดด๋กญํ˜”๋‹ค๊ณ  ํƒ“ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‡ผ์—์„œ ์•ˆ ์ข‹๊ฒŒ ๋ณด์ด๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“ค์—ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์…จ์ฃ 
I felt, uh, I'm not gonna say, I felt at times that I was being bullied. I don't know if it's a blame. It's just a fact. -It did put a lot of pressure. - Right.
๊ทธ ๋‹น์‹œ์— ์ „ ๊ดด๋กญํž˜๋‹นํ•˜๋Š” ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์ด์—ˆ์–ด์š” ํƒ“ํ•œ ๊ฒŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ด์—์š” - ์••๋ฐ•์„ ๋ฐ›์•˜์–ด์š” - ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ตฐ์š”
Right. I'm not just gonna blame it on... Yes, it's a fact. And you've talked about things that were taken out of context or you feel like, you know.
ํƒ“ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ด์—์š” ๋ฐฉ์†ก์ด ์•…์˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ํŽธ์ง‘๋œ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™๋‹ค๊ณ ์š” ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์ด...
I just didn't feel like my character's rounded out. Is there anything you will take responsibility for, that you can say, "You know what? This, I get"?
์ œ ์„ฑ๊ฒฉ์ด ์›๋งŒํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋ฌ˜์‚ฌ๋˜์ง€ ์•Š์€ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š” ์ผ์–ด๋‚œ ์ผ๋“ค ์ค‘์— ์ธ์ •ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”? '๊ทธ๋ž˜, ์ด๊ฑด ์ธ์ •ํ•˜๊ฒ ๋‹ค' ์‹ถ์€ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์š”
Well, like what I said about Kyle and, uh... Well, actually, Allison said it first... about Kyle and Mauricio's marriage. He loves his nannies. You can't fault him. She's an icy bitch. He loves more than his nannies.
์นด์ผ ์–˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ํ–ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ... ์•จ๋ฆฌ์Šจ์ด ๋จผ์ € ์นด์ผ๊ณผ ๋งˆ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์‹œ์˜ค์˜ ๊ฒฐํ˜ผ ์–˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๊บผ๋ƒˆ์ฃ  ๊ฑ” ๋‚จํŽธ์€ ๋ณด๋ชจ๋ฅผ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ด ๋‚จํŽธ ํƒ“์€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์ง€ ์นด์ผ์ด ์–ผ์Œ ๋งˆ๋…€๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ๋ณด๋ชจ ๋ง๊ณ ๋„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ์—ฌ์ž ๋งŽ์ง€
It was a heavy statement that you made. I mean, it was... I've known Mauricio for how long now, several years? And he's already been friendly. But that doesn't mean... -Friendly or flirting? - And you meant...
์ด๊ฑด ์‹ฌํ•œ ๋ง์ด์—ˆ์–ด์š” ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ... ๋งˆ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์‹œ์˜ค๋ฅผ ๋ช‡ ๋…„ ๋™์•ˆ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์ง€๋ƒˆ๋Š”๋ฐ ํ•ญ์ƒ ์นœ๊ทผํ–ˆ์–ด์š” - ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๊ณ ... - ์นœ๊ทผ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ์ถ”ํŒŒ?
You didn't mean it like that, Camille, you know. At least fess up to something, please. You meant that to be in a negative way. Okay, yes, maybe I did.
๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋œป ์•„๋‹ˆ์—ˆ์ž–์•„, ์นด๋ฐ€ ์ตœ์†Œํ•œ ๋ญ๋ผ๋„ ์‚ฌ์‹ค๋Œ€๋กœ ๋งํ•ด ๋ด ๋‚˜์œ ์˜๋„๋กœ ๋งํ•œ ๊ฑฐ์•ผ? ์•„๋งˆ ๊ทธ๋žฌ์„ ๊ฑฐ์•ผ
Absolutely. There was something I did with my girlfriend, Dedra. Something unfortunate happened in her life that... And I was boasting how I do so many great things for people.
๋‹น์—ฐํ•˜์ฃ  ์ œ ์นœ๊ตฌ ๋””์—๋“œ๋ผ๋ž‘ ๋‚˜์™”๋˜ ์žฅ๋ฉด์—์„œ๋„ ๋””์—๋“œ๋ผ์—๊ฒŒ ๋ถˆํ–‰ํ•œ ์ผ์ด ์ƒ๊ฒผ๊ณ  ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ข‹์€ ์ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑธ ์ž๋ž‘ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”
And, you know, there's a beautiful scene on a beach. And DD comes to me, and she brought it up and said, And that was never, you know... That was the scene where you compared yourself to Jesus.
๋ฐ”๋‹ค์˜ ์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ค์šด ๊ฒฝ์น˜๋„์š” ๋””๋””๊ฐ€ ์ €์—๊ฒŒ ์™€์„œ ์–˜๊ธฐํ–ˆ์–ด์š” ๊ทธ๊ฑด ๊ฒฐ์ฝ”... ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋ณธ์ธ์„ ์˜ˆ์ˆ˜์— ๋น„์œ ํ•œ ์žฅ๋ฉด์ด๊ตฐ์š”
I know. That was so ridiculous. Nothing better. I think I've helped everybody out in this hot tub. I have this Jesus complex, I think. Yeah.
๋„ค, ํ—ˆํŠผ์†Œ๋ฆฌ์˜€์ฃ  ๋” ๋ฐ”๋ž„ ๊ฒŒ ์—†์ฃ  ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋‘๋ฅผ ๋„์šด ์  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฑฐ ๊ฐ™์€๋ฐ์š” ์˜ˆ์ˆ˜ ์ฝคํ”Œ๋ ‰์Šค๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„ ๋งž์•„
I think that was just pure stupidity. So, then, I mean... I mean, honestly, that's just, that's pure stupidity. -So, then in all of this... -Okay.
์ €๊ฑด ์ˆœ์ˆ˜ํ•œ ์–ด๋ฆฌ์„์Œ์ด์ฃ  ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ... ์†”์งํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์ €๊ฑด ์ˆœ์ˆ˜ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์–ด๋ฆฌ์„์€ ๊ฑฐ์˜€์ฃ  - ์ด ๋ชจ๋“  ์ผ ์ค‘์— - ๋„ค
So, then in all of this stuff, I mean, you came out with some whoppers that people really attached themselves to. Yes. At the end of the season finale, we were all surprised to find out that Lisa and her long-time sidekick, Cedric, had a sudden falling out.
๋ชจ๋“  ์ผ ์ค‘์—์„œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ํ—ˆํ’์ด ๋‚˜์™”๊ตฐ์š” ๋„ค ๋ฆฌ์‚ฌ์™€ ๋ฆฌ์‚ฌ์˜ ์˜ค๋žœ ์กฐ์ˆ˜ ์„ธ๋“œ๋ฆญ์ด ์ด๋ณ„ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ชจ๋‘ ๋†€๋ž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
Besides Giggy, it was Cedric who was always at Lisa's side. Let's take a look. Bend over. It's not gonna hurt a bit. That's what you said last time.
์ง€๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์ œ์™ธํ•˜๊ณ  ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋ฆฌ์‚ฌ ์˜†์— ์žˆ๋˜ ์„ธ๋“œ๋ฆญ์ด์—ˆ์ฃ  ๊ฐ™์ด ๋ณด์‹œ์ฃ  ๊ตฌ๋ถ€๋ ค ๋ด ๋ณ„๋กœ ์•ˆ ์•„ํ”Œ ๊ฑฐ์•ผ ์ง€๋‚œ๋ฒˆ์—๋„ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ–ˆ์ž–์•„์š”
Cedric has lived with us for a year, nine months, three weeks, two days, and... What are you doing in here? I was very disappointed to see that under all that dynamite, there's, like, a two-inch fuse.
์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋ž‘ ์‚ฐ ์ง€ 1๋…„ 9๊ฐœ์›” ํ•˜๊ณ ๋„ 3์ฃผ 2์ผ 14์‹œ๊ฐ„ ๋๋„ค์š” ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ๋ญ ํ•ด? ์ญ‰ ํ›‘์–ด๋ณด๋‹ค ๋งค์šฐ ์‹ค๋งํ–ˆ์–ด์š” ๋ชธ๋งค๋Š” ์ข‹์œผ๋ฉด์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋ญ์˜ˆ์š”
I just hope he really is gay because he spends a lot of time with my wife. Oh, you must be joking! Lisa and Cedric, it's very kind of strange dynamic.
์„ธ๋“œ๋ฆญ์ด ์ง„์งœ ๊ฒŒ์ด์ด๊ธธ ๋ฐ”๋ผ์š” ์ œ ์•„๋‚ด๋ž‘ ํ—ˆ๊ตฌํ•œ ๋‚  ๋ถ™์–ด ๋‹ค๋‹ˆ์ž–์•„์š” ์ •๋ง ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๊ฐ€๊ฒŒ? ๋ฆฌ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ ์„ธ๋“œ๋ฆญ์˜ ๊ด€๊ณ„๋Š” ๋ญ๋ž„๊นŒ ์ฃผ๊ฐ์ด ์ „๋„๋๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ• ๊นŒ์š”?
What else is good? Give me compliments. You know I like it. That's it. That's the only thing that's good. I would like to see things from his point of view, but I don't think I could get my head stuck that far up my own ass.
๋˜ ๋ญ๊ฐ€ ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์•„์š”? ๋” ์นญ์ฐฌํ•ด ์ค˜์š”, ๊ธฐ๋ถ„ ์ข‹๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š” ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค์•ผ ๊ทธ๊ฑฐ ๋ง๊ณ ๋Š” ์—†์–ด ์„ธ๋“œ๋ฆญ ๋จธ๋ฆฟ์†์— ํ•œ๋ฒˆ ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ€ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ด์š” ๋ญ˜ ๋ฏฟ๊ณ  ์ €๋Ÿฌ๋Š”์ง€ ๋ชฐ๋ผ์š”
If I ask you to do something, I'm sorry, you got to do it. You live in my house. Drive my car. That's not cool. I'm sorry. It's not cool. I understand what you're saying...
๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋ญ˜ ์‹œํ‚ค๋ฉด ๋ฏธ์•ˆํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋„Œ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ด ๋„Œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์ง‘์— ์‚ด๊ณ  ๋‚ด ์ฐจ ๋ชฐ์ž–์•„ ๊ทธ๊ฑด ์ข€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์ง€ ์•Œ์•˜์œผ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ๊ทธ๋งŒํ•˜์„ธ์š”
It's all right for you to say we're moving on. I say when we're moving on. He's been with us over a year. I know you feel responsible for him, but a year is enough.
๊ทธ๋งŒํ• ์ง€ ๋ง์ง€๋Š” ๋„ค๊ฐ€ ์ •ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์ •ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์•ผ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋ž‘ 1๋…„์ด ๋„˜๊ฒŒ ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ฑ…์ž„๊ฐ ๋А๋ผ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋„ ์•Œ์•„ 1๋…„์ด๋ฉด ์ถฉ๋ถ„ํ•˜์ž–์•„
It's not that I don't wanna move out. That I feel, you know, you are my only family. Stop. I love you, okay? Cedric's story is a painful one.
๋‚˜๊ฐ€๊ธฐ ์‹ซ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ๋ฆฌ์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ์ œ ์œ ์ผํ•œ ๊ฐ€์กฑ์ด๋‚˜ ๋‹ค๋ฆ„์—†์ž–์•„์š” ๊ทธ๋งŒ, ๋‚œ ๋„ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ํ•ด ์„ธ๋“œ๋ฆญ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋Š” ๊ฐ€์Šด ์•„ํŒŒ์š”
Never known my father and, uh, my mother was a prostitute. We lived on the streets. One day, she just, um, left me at a phone booth and she never came back.
์•„๋น ๋Š” ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ณ  ์—„๋งˆ๋Š” ๋งค์ถ˜๋ถ€์˜€์–ด์š” ๊ธธ์—์„œ ์‚ด์•˜์–ด์š” ์–ด๋А ๋‚ , ์—„๋งˆ๊ฐ€ ์ €๋ฅผ ๊ณต์ค‘์ „ํ™” ๋ถ€์Šค์— ๋†“๊ณ  ๊ฐ”๋Š”๋ฐ ๋‹ค์‹œ๋Š” ๋Œ์•„์˜ค์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์–ด์š”
I do have demons. I'm aware of that, you know? I see them. I see the way you react to me sometimes. I've opened my heart, my home, my life to Cedric.
์ €ํ•œํ…Œ ์•…๋งˆ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š” ๋‚˜๋„ ์•Œ์•„, ๊ฐ€๋” ๋„ค๊ฐ€ ๋‚˜ํ•œํ…Œ ํ•˜๋Š” ํ–‰๋™์—์„œ ๋ณด์—ฌ ์ œ ๋งˆ์Œ, ์ง‘, ์‚ถ์„ ์„ธ๋“œ๋ฆญ์—๊ฒŒ ์—ด์–ด ์คฌ์–ด์š”
Of course, I'm always there for him, but I want him to move past this. So, the two of you were quite a duo. Yeah. And you had been, uh, in each other's lives for 15 years, yes?
ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์„ธ๋“œ๋ฆญ๋„ ๋…ธ๋ ฅ์„ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด์š” ๋‘ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€ ์„ธํŠธ์˜€์ž–์•„์š” ๋„ค ์„œ๋กœ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์ง€๋‚ธ ์ง€๋„ 15๋…„์ด์ž–์•„์š”
Well, not as intensely as the last year and a half. He'd worked for us in London and he came here. He kind of followed us here. What happened between the two of you? What was the falling out? Was it over him moving out?
์ตœ๊ทผ 1๋…„ 6๊ฐœ์›”๋งŒํผ ๊ฐ€๊น์ง„ ์•Š์•˜์–ด์š” ๋Ÿฐ๋˜์—์„œ ์ผํ•˜๋˜ ์ง์›์ธ๋ฐ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ๋กœ ์™”์–ด์š” ๋”ฐ๋ผ์˜จ ๊ฑฐ์ฃ  ๋‘ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ ์‚ฌ์ด์— ๋ฌด์Šจ ์ผ์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ๋‚˜์š”? ์–ด๋–ค ์ผ๋กœ ๋‹คํ‰œ์ฃ ? ์ด์‚ฌ ๋ฌธ์ œ์˜€๋‚˜์š”?
Since maybe the first episode. Well, yeah, because he'd been there over a year. But I did feel, not maternal, but I felt protective of him because he didn't have anywhere to go.
์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์—ํ”ผ์†Œ๋“œ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ์š” ๋„ค, ์ด๋ฏธ 1๋…„์ด ๋„˜๊ฒŒ ์‚ด์•˜์œผ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š” ๋ชจ์„ฑ์• ๊นŒ์ง€๋Š” ์•„๋‹ˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๋ณดํ˜ธํ•ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋А๊ผˆ์–ด์š” ์„ธ๋“œ๋ฆญ์€ ๊ฐˆ ๊ณณ์ด ์—†์—ˆ๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”
I was shocked the way things turned out. He suddenly just turned round. He... And he got very nasty, very aggressive. And, as usual, in Cedric's style, he packed them all in Ken's suitcases.
๊ฒฐ๊ณผ๊ฐ€ ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋ผ์„œ ์ €๋„ ์ถฉ๊ฒฉ๋ฐ›์•˜์–ด์š” ์„ธ๋“œ๋ฆญ์€ ๊ฐ‘์ž๊ธฐ ๋Œ๋ณ€ํ–ˆ์ฃ  ์„ธ๋“œ๋ฆญ์ด ์—„์ฒญ ํ—˜์•…ํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ณต๊ฒฉ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณ€ํ–ˆ์–ด์š” ํ‰์†Œ์˜ ์„ธ๋“œ๋ฆญ ๋ฐฉ์‹๋Œ€๋กœ ์ผ„์˜ ๊ฐ€๋ฐฉ์— ์ง์„ ์ŒŒ์–ด์š”
But it was very upsetting. And the last words I said to him was, And he screamed at me, "You're not my mother!" But I've really tried to help him.
๊ต‰์žฅํžˆ ์†์ƒํ–ˆ์–ด์š” ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰์œผ๋กœ ํ•œ ๋ง์€ '์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์—„๋งˆ๋„ ์•„๋‹ˆ์ž–์•„์š”' ํ•˜๊ณ  ์ €ํ•œํ…Œ ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์งˆ๋ €์–ด์š” ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์„ธ๋“œ๋ฆญ์„ ๋„์šฐ๋ ค๊ณ  ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”
I was warned by Kyle, in particular, and many other of my friends. They said they didn't like the way, they felt he was taking advantage of us. And I chose to ignore it.
์นด์ผ๋„ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ณ  ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์นœ๊ตฌ๋“ค์ด ๊ฒฝ๊ณ ํ–ˆ์–ด์š” ์„ธ๋“œ๋ฆญ์ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์ด์šฉํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฑฐ๋ผ๊ณ  ํ–ˆ์ฃ  ์ „ ๊ทธ ๋ง์„ ๋ฌด์‹œํ–ˆ์ฃ 
And so you just had a huge fight the day that he moved out -and never saw him again? -No. I didn't have a fight. I absolutely didn't have a fight.
์ด์‚ฌ ๋‚˜๊ฐ€๋Š” ๋‚ ์— ํฌ๊ฒŒ ์‹ธ์šด ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”? - ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋ชป ๋ดค๋‚˜์š”? - ์‹ธ์šฐ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์–ด์š” ์ ˆ๋Œ€ ์‹ธ์šด ๊ฒŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ์—์š”
And he went to my husband's office. And what he wanted, we weren't prepared to give him. And Ken was, like, devastated. Didn't you file a police report?
์„ธ๋“œ๋ฆญ์ด ๋‚จํŽธ์˜ ์‚ฌ๋ฌด์‹ค๋กœ ๊ฐ”์–ด์š” ์„ธ๋“œ๋ฆญ์ด ์›ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑธ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ค„ ์ค€๋น„๊ฐ€ ์•ˆ ๋์—ˆ์ฃ  ์ผ„์€ ์ถฉ๊ฒฉ์— ๋น ์กŒ์–ด์š” ๊ฒฝ์ฐฐ์— ์‹ ๊ณ ํ–ˆ๋‹ˆ?
Yeah, I did, which I've never made -public or said before. - Oh, sorry. That's okay. But, um... Yeah, we filed a police report. We took advice from two friends who'd been kind of victim to this kind of circumstance before.
๋งํ•œ ์ ์€ ์—†์ง€๋งŒ ์‹ ๊ณ ๋Š” ํ–ˆ์–ด - ์œ ๊ฐ์ด๋‹ค - ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์•„ ๋„ค, ๊ฒฝ์ฐฐ์— ์‹ ๊ณ ํ–ˆ์–ด์š” ์นœ๊ตฌ ๋‘ ๋ช…์—๊ฒŒ ์กฐ์–ธ์„ ๋ฐ›์•˜์ฃ  ์นœ๊ตฌ๋“ค๋„ ์˜ˆ์ „์— ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”
But apart from that, it was emotionally devastating. He wanted money from you? I can't say that. But he said he had no money. And he said he'd been offered to sell his story.
๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๋ณ„๊ฐœ๋กœ ์ „ ๊ฐ์ •์ ์œผ๋กœ๋„ ํž˜๋“ค์—ˆ์–ด์š” ๋ˆ์„ ์š”๊ตฌํ•˜๋˜๊ฐ€์š”? ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์–ด์š” ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€๋งŒ ์„ธ๋“œ๋ฆญ์ด ๋ˆ์ด ์—†๋‹ค๋Š” ๋ง์€ ํ–ˆ์–ด์š” ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ํŒ”๋ผ๋Š” ์ œ์•ˆ์„ ๋“ค์—ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•˜๋”๋ผ๊ณ ์š”
He's very decent and has certainly been more than generous to him in every aspect of his life. He was in my will, for God's sake. I mean, I know it sounds ridiculous, but he was part of the family.
์นœ์ ˆํ•˜๊ณ  ๋‹ค์ •ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์„ธ๋“œ๋ฆญ์„ ๋Œ€ํ–ˆ์ฃ  ๋‘๋ฃจ๋‘๋ฃจ ๋„์™€์คฌ์–ด์š” ์ œ ์œ ์–ธ์žฅ์—๋„ ์„ธ๋“œ๋ฆญ์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š” ๋ง๋„ ์•ˆ ๋˜๋Š” ๊ฑฐ ์•Œ์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋งŒํผ ๊ฐ€์กฑ์œผ๋กœ ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์–ด์š”
Did you ever question his motives? I wish I had... No. I'm stupid. I feel a fool for being taken like that. Every word that came out of his mouth was a lie that he said to Ken.
์„ธ๋“œ๋ฆญ์ด ์™œ ๊ทธ๋žฌ๋‚˜ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด ๋ณธ ์ ์€์š”? ์—†์–ด์š”, ๋ฐ”๋ณด ๊ฐ™์•˜์ฃ  ์ด์šฉ๋‹นํ•œ ๋ฐ”๋ณด์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋А๊ปด์ ธ์š” ์„ธ๋“œ๋ฆญ์ด ์ผ„ํ•œํ…Œ ์ž๊ธฐ ์ž…์—์„œ ๋‚˜์˜จ ๋ชจ๋“  ๋ง์€ ๊ฑฐ์ง“์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ํ–ˆ๋Œ€์š”
He said he didn't have a family. I find out now that he has sisters or whatever. Yeah, he'll go a long way to find another idiot like me. Watch this.
๊ฐ€์กฑ์ด ์—†๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ ๋ˆ„๋‚˜์ธ์ง€ ๋ญ”์ง€๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑธ ์•Œ์•„๋ƒˆ์–ด์š” ์ € ๊ฐ™์€ ๋ฐ”๋ณด๋ฅผ ๋˜ ์ฐพ์œผ๋Ÿฌ ๋จผ ๊ธธ์„ ๋– ๋‚˜๊ฒ ์ฃ  ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋ณด์‹œ์ฃ 
Since I left Ken and Lisa, I'm really pursuing the acting. I've been taking a lot of classes and, you know, getting to auditions and getting myself out there and, uh...
๋ฆฌ์‚ฌ์™€ ์ผ„๊ณผ ํ—ค์–ด์ง€๊ณ  ๋‚˜์„œ ์ „ ์—ฐ๊ธฐ์— ๋„์ „ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์š” ์ˆ˜์—…๋„ ๋งŽ์ด ๋“ฃ๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ ์š” ์˜ค๋””์…˜๋„ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์ ˆ ์•Œ๋ฆฌ๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋…ธ๋ ฅ ์ค‘์ด์—์š”
we'll see what happens. - Good to see you. -Good. Nice seeing you. - I am ready. -Great. Ready and... Ready to go. Practiced up? I have practiced. Good.
์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋ ์ง€ ๋‘๊ณ  ๋ด์•ผ๊ฒ ์ฃ  - ๋ฐ˜๊ฐ€์›Œ์š” - ์ €๋„ ๋ฐ˜๊ฐ€์›Œ์š” - ์ค€๋น„๋์–ด์š” - ์ข‹์•„์š” ์—ฐ์Šต๋„ ํ–ˆ์–ด์š” ์—ฐ์Šต๋„ ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”?
-Excellent. -So let's see how bad I am today. No. Confidence, my friend. No? Confidence. Confidence. All right, go ahead. The argument that day that we had wasn't really the main cause of why I've decided to leave.
- ์ž˜ํ–ˆ์–ด์š” - ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๋ชปํ•˜๋Š”์ง€ ๋ด ์ฃผ์„ธ์š” ์ž์‹ ๊ฐ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€์„ธ์š” ๋„ค, ํ•ด ๋ณผ๊ฒŒ์š” ๊ทธ๋‚  ์žˆ์—ˆ๋˜ ๋…ผ์Ÿ์€ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋– ๋‚˜๊ธฐ๋กœ ๊ฒฐ์‹ฌํ•œ ์ฃผ๋œ ์ด์œ ๋Š” ์•„๋‹ˆ์—์š”
It was really a buildup. You know, we got to where we are now because it's been building up for such a long time. It just came to a point where her ego was so big that I just couldn't take it.
๊ทธ๋™์•ˆ ์ญ‰ ์Œ“์—ฌ ์™”๋˜ ๊ฑฐ์ฃ  ์–ด์ฐจํ”ผ ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋  ์ผ์ด์—ˆ์–ด์š” ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์˜ค๋žœ ์‹œ๊ฐ„ ์Œ“์—ฌ ์™”์œผ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š” ๋ฆฌ์‚ฌ์˜ ์ž์กด์‹ฌ์ด ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์ปค์ ธ์„œ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ๋‹นํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†๊ฒŒ ๋์–ด์š”
She was so controlling. You know, I'm not Giggy. Bottom line is... I've got fur and I'm not Giggy. Turn on the sexy. A typical day working for Lisa would be waking up in the morning...
๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฑธ ํœ˜๋‘๋ฅด๋ ค๊ณ  ํ–ˆ์ฃ  ์ „ ์ง€๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์—์š” ์ „ ํ„ธ์ด ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์ง€๊ธฐ๋Š” ์•„๋‹ˆ์ฃ  ์„น์‹œํ•˜๊ฒŒ์š” ๋„ค ๋ฆฌ์‚ฌ ๋ฐ‘์—์„œ ์ผํ•˜๋ฉด ์•„์นจ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์ผ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•ด์š”
Well, being woken up by her voice over the intercom, going to the gym with her, listen to her talk and me sit on the floor. So, I was, um, her companion.
๋ฆฌ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ ๊ฐ™์ด ์šด๋™์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์ „ ๋ฐ”๋‹ฅ์— ์•‰์•„์„œ ๋ฆฌ์‚ฌ์˜ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด์š” ๋™๋ฐ˜์ž ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฑฐ์ฃ 
It's not like I was on a salary or anything. Being with Ken and Lisa was, you know, getting paid in flowers and puppies. Um, so, yeah, unfortunately, that's not currency that's, um, accepted very much in places, so...
๋ˆ์„ ๋ฐ›๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•„์š” ์ผ„์ด๋ž‘ ๋ฆฌ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ ์žˆ๋Š” ์‹œ๊ฐ„์€ ๊ฝƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ•์•„์ง€๋กœ ๋ณด์ƒ๋ฐ›์•„์š” ์•ˆํƒ€๊น๊ฒŒ๋„ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ณณ์—์„œ๋Š” ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†๋Š” ๋ˆ์ด์ฃ 
When I think about it, it just makes me sad, really, because of what they'd become. She's just a parody of herself, you know? Welcome to Beverly Hills. It's all about, you know, outside. It really is. It's that shallow.
๊ทธ ์ƒ๊ฐ์„ ํ•˜๋ฉด ์ •๋ง ์Šฌํผ์ ธ์š” ๋ฆฌ์‚ฌ์™€ ์ผ„์˜ ๋ณ€ํ•œ ๋ชจ์Šต ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด์ฃ  ๋ฆฌ์‚ฌ๋Š” ์ธํ˜•์ด ๋˜์–ด ๊ฐ€๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์š” ๋ฒ ๋ฒŒ๋ฆฌํž์Šค ์กธ๋ถ€๋“ค์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๊ฒ‰๋ชจ์Šต์ด ์ „๋ถ€์˜ˆ์š” ์ •๋ง ํ”ผ์ƒ์ ์ด์ฃ 
And this is all they care about. Just look around you. Who's around you right now? People you've known for a year or two? "These are not your friends." - Is that all right? -Yeah. Absolutely.
๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์‹ ๊ฒฝ ์“ฐ๋Š” ๊ฑด ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค์˜ˆ์š” '์ฃผ๋ณ€์„ ๋Œ์•„๋ณด์„ธ์š”' '๋ˆ„๊ฐ€ ๋‹น์‹  ๊ณ์— ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”?' '๊ฒจ์šฐ ์ผ์ด ๋…„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์ง€๋‚ธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์š”?' '๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์ฃ ' - ๊ทธ๋Ÿผ์š” - ์ข‹์•„์š”
All right, great. I'm sure you'll do great. Thanks, Cedric. -Thank you so much, Elizabeth. Darling. -Okay-dokey. Lisa's very good at giving an impression of herself that's not necessarily what she's actually trying to do.
์ž˜ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š” ๊ณ ๋งˆ์›Œ์š”, ์„ธ๋“œ๋ฆญ - ๊ณ ๋งˆ์›Œ์š”, ์—˜๋ฆฌ์ž๋ฒ ์Šค - ๊ทธ๋ž˜์š” ๋ฆฌ์‚ฌ๋Š” ์ข‹์€ ์ธ์ƒ ๋‚จ๊ธฐ๋Š” ๊ฑธ ์ž˜ํ•ด์š” ์†์— ์žˆ๋Š” ์ƒ๊ฐ๊ณผ๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅด๊ฒŒ์š”
She's, um, all angel face. And, underneath, it's a whole different matter, you know? So, I would not necessarily believe what she says or what you think you know about Lisa.
๋ฆฌ์‚ฌ๋Š” ์ฒœ์‚ฌ์˜ ์–ผ๊ตด์ด์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ ์†์—๋Š” ์ „ํ˜€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์ฃ  ๋ฆฌ์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑธ ๋‹ค ๋ฏฟ์„ ํ•„์š”๋Š” ์—†์–ด์š” ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ฆฌ์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ฏฟ์„ ํ•„์š”๋„ ์—†์ฃ 
Yeah, nasty, actually, really... Um, really nasty, hurtful. Um, I think when the cameras follow you for months... that they really do get an accurate picture of who you are.
์ •๋ง ๋น„์—ดํ•˜๋„ค์š” ์ •๋ง ๋น„์—ดํ•ด์š” ๋งˆ์Œ์ด ์ƒํ–ˆ์–ด์š” ์นด๋ฉ”๋ผ๊ฐ€ ๋ช‡ ๋‹ฌ ๋™์•ˆ ์ž์‹ ์„ ๋”ฐ๋ผ๋‹ค๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๋ณธ์ธ์ด ์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ธ์ง€ ์นด๋ฉ”๋ผ์— ๊ทธ๋Œ€๋กœ ๋‚˜์˜ค์ฃ 
I can see he's just being vicious and trying to discredit me. I have no respect for him whatsoever. But as far as I'm concerned, he's a lying, egotistical, narcissistic, vindictive, vile piece of...
์„ธ๋“œ๋ฆญ์€ ์ง€๊ธˆ ์•…์˜๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์ €๋ฅผ ๊นŽ์•„๋‚ด๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์š” ๊ทธ ์–ด๋–ค ๊ฒƒ๋„ ์„ธ๋“œ๋ฆญ์„ ์กด์ค‘ํ•  ์ƒ๊ฐ์ด ์—†๋„ค์š” ์„ธ๋“œ๋ฆญ์€ ๊ฑฐ์ง“๋ง์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ  ์ž๊ธฐ์ค‘์‹ฌ์ ์ด๊ณ  ์ž์•„๋„์ทจ์— ์•™์‹ฌ ์žˆ๊ณ  ๋น„์—ดํ•œ...
You know what? I'll stop right there. He lived with you for free for a year and nine months... A hundred percent. -And doesn't contest that. - A hundred percent. No.
์ €๊ธฐ, ์—ฌ๊ธฐ๊นŒ์ง€ ํ• ๊ฒŒ์š” 1๋…„ 9๊ฐœ์›” ๋™์•ˆ ๋ฆฌ์‚ฌ ์ง‘์—์„œ ๋ฌด๋ฃŒ๋กœ ์‚ด์•˜์ฃ ? 100%์š” - ๋ถˆ๋งŒ์€ ์—†์—ˆ๋‚˜์š”? - ๋„ค
And then... Slaughters me or tries to. But you know what? Even saying I have friends for a year or two, that's absolute nonsense. Martin, for example, who's there, I've known for 25 years. And my friend, 20 years, Deanna, who's actually in Cedric's room now, for 20 years.
๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ... ์ ˆ ์ฃฝ์ด๋ ค๊ณ  ํ–ˆ์–ด์š” ๊ทธ๊ฑฐ ์•„์„ธ์š”? ์ผ์ด ๋…„ ๋œ ์นœ๊ตฌ๋“ค๋ฐ–์— ์—†๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•œ ๊ฒƒ๋„ ํ—›์†Œ๋ฆฌ์ผ ๋ฟ์ด์—์š” ๋งˆํ‹ด์€ 25๋…„๊ฐ„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์ง€๋ƒˆ๊ณ  20๋…„ ์นœ๊ตฌ ๋””์•„๋‚˜๋Š” ์ง€๊ธˆ ์„ธ๋“œ๋ฆญ ๋ฐฉ์— ์‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์š”
-You know, I mean, I could go on. -I know a lot of your friends. So, that's absolutely not true. You know, that's all nonsense. But I see what he's trying to do.
- ๋” ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์–ด์š” - ๋„ค ์นœ๊ตฌ ๋งŽ์ด ๋ดค์–ด ์„ธ๋“œ๋ฆญ ๋ง์€ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ์—์š” ๋ง๋„ ์•ˆ ๋˜์ฃ  ์„ธ๋“œ๋ฆญ์ด ๋ญ˜ ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€์ง€๋Š” ์•Œ๊ฒ ๋„ค์š”
-Really? -Yeah, Kyle especially. She was being taken advantage of. And now he wants his 15 minutes. Because he's so fame-hungry. So, that was... Remember the thing with the paparazzi? Yeah. With...
- ์ •๋ง์š”? - ๋„ค, ํŠนํžˆ ์นด์ผ์ด์š” ๋ฆฌ์‚ฌ๋Š” ์ด์šฉ๋‹นํ•œ ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š” ์„ธ๋“œ๋ฆญ์€ ์ง€๊ธˆ ์œ ๋ช…ํ•ด์ง€๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ด ํ•˜์ฃ  ๋ช…์„ฑ์— ๋ชฉ๋ง๋ผ ์žˆ์œผ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š” ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ... ๊ทธ ํŒŒํŒŒ๋ผ์น˜ ๊ธฐ์–ต๋‚˜?
And you called that, and I defended him. And I was wrong. It was my birthday, and Paris was sitting next to me. Because they were taking pictures and he was just, like...
๋„ค๊ฐ€ ๋ˆˆ์น˜์ฑ„๊ณ  ๋‚œ ์„ธ๋“œ๋ฆญ์„ ๋ณดํ˜ธํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ ๋‚ด ์‹ค์ˆ˜์˜€์ง€ ์ œ ์ƒ์ผ์ด์—ˆ๊ณ  ํŒจ๋ฆฌ์Šค๊ฐ€ ์ œ ์˜†์— ์•‰์•„ ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š” ์‚ฌ์ง„์„ ์ฐ๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š” ์„ธ๋“œ๋ฆญ์€...
But that's life, isn't it? I mean, you win some, you lose some. Joining us for the reunion show are the Real Housewives' husbands. - Mauricio. -How you doing?
์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒŒ ์‚ถ์ด๊ฒ ์ง€? ํ•˜๋‚˜๋ฅผ ์–ป์œผ๋ฉด ํ•˜๋‚˜๋ฅผ ์žƒ์ž–์•„ "๋ฐ€๋ ˆ๋‹ˆ์—„ ๋นŒํŠธ๋ชจ์–ด ํ˜ธํ…”" ํŠน๋ณ„ ์†๋‹˜์ด ์˜ค์…จ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค ๋ฐ”๋กœ ๋‚จํŽธ๋ถ„๋“ค์ด์ฃ  - ๋งˆ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์‹œ์˜ค - ์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š”
- Ken. -Hi, Andy. - Russell. -Good to see you, Andy. We had so many questions come in to bravotv.com for the guys. I wanna get right to them.
- ์ผ„ - ์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š”, ์•ค๋”” - ๋Ÿฌ์…€ - ๋ฐ˜๊ฐ€์›Œ์š”, ์•ค๋”” ํ™ˆํŽ˜์ด์ง€์— ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ์ˆ˜๋งŽ์€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด ์˜ฌ๋ผ์™”์–ด์š” ๋ฐ”๋กœ ๋ฌผ์–ด๋ณด์ฃ 
Let's start with you, Paul. Jenny, from Port Huron, Michigan, wants to know, "Why do you think Adrienne is always critical of you?" - Well, that's a good question. -Be careful. Let me, let me see how the best way to answer that.
ํด๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜์ฃ  ๋ฏธ์‹œ๊ฐ„ ํฌํŠธํœด๋Ÿฐ์— ์‚ฌ๋Š” ์ œ๋‹ˆ ์”จ๊ฐ€ ์งˆ๋ฌธํ•ด ์ฃผ์…จ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค '์—์ด๋“œ๋ฆฌ์—”์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ์‹ ๋ž„ํ•œ ์ด์œ ๊ฐ€ ๋ญ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์‹œ๋‚˜์š”?' - ์ข‹์€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด๋„ค์š” - ๋Œ€๋‹ต ์ž˜ํ•ด ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ๋‹ต์ด ๋ญ”์ง€ ์ƒ๊ฐ ์ข€ ํ•ด ๋ณผ๊ฒŒ์š”
You have to leave with me tonight. Be careful. We like bickering. I think it's fun. - That's how we get along. -Yeah. That's true. Adrienne said it's how you communicate.
์˜ค๋Š˜ ๋‚˜๋ž‘ ๊ฐ™์ด ๊ฐ€์•ผ ํ•˜๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ์‹ ์ค‘ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ํ•ด ์šฐ๋ฆฐ ๋‹คํˆฌ์ง€๋งŒ ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ์–ด์š” - ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ž˜ ์ง€๋‚ด์ฃ  - ๋งž์•„์š” ์—์ด๋“œ๋ฆฌ์—”์ด ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋‹น์‹  ๋Œ€ํ™” ๋ฐฉ์‹์ด๋ž˜์š”
One thing that's important, I think, for couples... is if you have something on your mind, get it out fast. Don't hold it in. Don't build it up. Just get it out.
๋ถ€๋ถ€์—๊ฒŒ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ง€๋Š” ๋งˆ์Œ์— ๋ญ”๊ฐ€ ์ƒ๊ธฐ๋ฉด ๋นจ๋ฆฌ ํ•ด๊ฒฐํ•ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์ฃ  ์ฐธ๊ณ  ์Œ“์•„ ๋‘์ง€ ๋ง๊ณ  ๋ฐ”๋กœ ํ•ด๊ฒฐํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ด์š”
That's kind of how our relationship works. You know, get it out... Getting in there and getting it over with? -Yeah. -That wasn't sex advice. Heather, from Riverside, California, has a very personal question.
์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๊ด€๊ณ„๋Š” ์ €๊ฒŒ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ˜์ด์—์š” ํ•œ๋ฒˆ ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ€๋ฉด ๋นจ๋ฆฌ ๋‚˜์˜ค๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์ฃ ? - ๋„ค - ์„น์Šค ์กฐ์–ธ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ์—ˆ๋„ค์š” ์บ˜๋ฆฌํฌ๋‹ˆ์•„ ๋ฆฌ๋ฒ„์‚ฌ์ด๋“œ์— ํ—ค๋”๋Š” ์‚ฌ์ ์ธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ํ•ด ์ฃผ์…จ๋„ค์š”