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and I am not speaking of ethnic German children now, - cones from rural areas and is needed in order to help work on the farm, only in such cases were exceptions made, so that a child did not have to attend school anymore before completing its fourteenth year of life. However, this was never done when the child was not... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,108,350 | 1,108,850 |
things, did not awaken any doubt within me. Q.Nowyou said that you were convinced,- I am a little confused by your testimony. You said you were convinced that the child was ethnic German and yet when you adopted the child you consulted the Polish authorities. Will you please tell me why the Polish authorities had to ag... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,108,800 | 1,109,300 |
Organization. It was not known to me. QYou have never reported this child to the IRO or, its predecessor, the UNRRA? AI did not report this case to UNRRA because, at that time, I had not only started the adoption proceedings, but finally I had already received the signed agreement of the Polish authorities who, at the ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,109,250 | 1,109,750 |
for the child, you search in Litzmannstadt. Both of your guesses have been correct. How were you informed? Weren't you informed as to this child? These wild guesses being accurate is what amazes me and, I'm sure, the Tribunal. JUDGEO'CONNELL: You canot speak for the Tribunal. BY MR. NEELY: I beg your pardon, Your Honor... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,109,700 | 1,110,200 |
tell you anything about the father and mother of the child? Who they were? Where they lived? When they died? Anything about it? AYour honor, I have already described at the beginning of my examination that, especially with regard to members of the family or the parents of the child, I asked a small circle of girls abou... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,110,150 | 1,110,650 |
Tribunal your full name. AMy name is Gisela Luser. QAre you the adopted daughter of Herr Luser who was just in the witness stand? AYes. QWhat was your name before you were adopted? AGisela Brandt. QWhen were you born? AOn the 4th of April, 1932. QAnd where were you born? AI don't know, but I was brought up in Lodz. QYo... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,110,600 | 1,111,100 |
instance, something had happened in school or that we perhaps didn't have our homework done; then, all of us were beaten. QWere small children also beaten? Children who did not go to school yet? AYes. QAnd why were they beaten? AWell, because they couldn't pray. QWhat other punishments were usual in this convent when t... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,111,050 | 1,111,550 |
mean that? QDid they tell you that you should be proud to be a German and to become a German girl? ANo. QNow, I have just one more question, witness. You spoke of the ill-treatment which you received in the Polish institution, the Polish school Did you at any time over receive any mistreatment? AYes. QWould you please ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,111,500 | 1,112,000 |
can first remember? AYou mean when my parents were already dead? QYes -- when you can first remember where you were living. AIn Lodz. QWho were you living with when you can first remember? AI was with my Polish foster parents and my brothers and sisters. QHow long did you live with them -- with your foster parents? AI ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,111,950 | 1,112,450 |
brother is about one year older than I am; and my sister is two or three years older than I am. QDid they go to the same convent that you went to? AYes, I was in this Polish convent with my brother and sister. QFrom your oldest sister, were you able to learn anything about your parents -- that is your own parents? ANo.... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,112,400 | 1,112,900 |
for having done something which the nuns considered a violation of the rules? Did you understand the question? AI am just thinking. This also happened. When something happened in school that wasn't right, then the teachers told that to the sisters; they told them that we didn't pay attention, or that we didn't have our... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,112,850 | 1,113,350 |
action during the war. QYou told us that your name was Lotte Suchert. AYes. QAs far as you remember, did you always have that name? ANo, I did not. QWhy, What was your name before that? AMy name was Miroslawa. QThat was your first name? AYes. QAnd your last name? ASuchert. QThat was the same all the time, wasn't it? AY... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,113,300 | 1,113,800 |
with whom did you live at that time? AWe lived with an uncle of ours. QDo you know anything more in detail about that uncle of yours? What was his name? ANO. QWhether he was the brother of your father or of your mother? You don't know that? ANo. QThank you. Did you now stay in Warsaw from then on or did you go somewher... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,113,750 | 1,114,250 |
about your foster mother? Did she also speak Polish? ANo, she spoke German. QWhat else do you remember of your fester parents from the mother? AShe was in the NSV. QWell, how did you gain that knowledge? ABecause sometimes we received gifts from the NSV. QWell, how long did you stay with those foster parents? AOh, abou... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,114,200 | 1,114,700 |
there? AAbout half a year. QDid they treat you well in Bruckau? What was that in Bruckau? Was that a home also? AYes, it was. QHow did they treat you there? AOh, they treated me fine, there. QDid you new remain in this home in Bruckau or did you come to another home? AI came into a summer home. QWere all the girls tran... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,114,650 | 1,115,150 |
How long did you visit Frau Vogt then? How long did you stay there, this visit in Wiesloch that you made there? AJust a few days. QAnd where did you go from there? AI went back to Achern. QWell, what happened then? AThen Frau Vogt came and got me. QIn Achern? AYes. QDo you know when that was? AYes, in June 1942. QIn Ju... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,115,100 | 1,115,600 |
how long did you stay in Achern-Baden? AOne year. QAnd when you were at Achern-Baden you had to speak German all the time, isn't that correct? ANo, that is not right. QWere there other Polish girls besides you at AchernBaden? AYes. QDid they speak Polish with you? AYes. Q were you allowed to speak Polish, say in your c... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,115,550 | 1,116,050 |
have you ascertained that all the defendants are present in the court. THE MARSHAL:May it please your Honors, all the defendants are present in the court. THE PRESIDENT:Proceed. DR.RENSCH (for the the defendant Sollmann): Your Honor, as my next witness I would like to call the witness Suse Vogt. THE PRESIDENT:Let the W... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,116,000 | 1,116,500 |
you. That is sufficient. You conducted negotiations then with the leadership of this home and the school for ethnic Germans in Achern? AYes. QIn the course of these conferences with the leadership, did the question whether or not the child was to be brought up in the Nazi ideology -- was that important? ANo. QDid they ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,116,450 | 1,116,950 |
that you were not granted any further subsidies for this child. Since you are in business, did you have any exemptions from taxes or something like that? ANo, none at all. QThus as far as tax is concerned, she was not considered to be your own child? ANo. QYou talked about the Lebensborn a few minutes ago. Did the Lebe... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,116,900 | 1,117,400 |
were my second daughter. QDid you also bring up the child with religious instructions? AYes. QDid the child ever belong to a National Socialist organization? ANo. QAnd how in general is your relationship with the child? AJust like a mother to her child. QWould you like to separate yourself from that child? ANo. QThank ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,117,350 | 1,117,850 |
end of July? ANo, another child who was also in Wiesloch brought her along. QAnother child brought her? Is that correct, a child brought her to you? AYes, that is correct. QNow how old was this child -- this child who brought your child to you? AOh, about 15. QAnd she was the only person with this child when they came ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,117,800 | 1,118,300 |
was 11 years old. Q.And yet with this sparse information you took this child into your home with her being delivered to you by another child only 15 years of age. Is that correct? A.Well, that was only for the visit. Later on when she actually came to stay with me I came to get her myself. Q.Oh, well now, let's get thi... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,118,250 | 1,118,750 |
I cannot remember my real parents. Q.Whom can you remember then? A.I can only remember my grandmother. Q.Were you ever living with that grandmother? A.Yes. Q.And you still remember where? A.That was in Poland, near Posen. Q.What sort of a memory do you carry with you of your grandmother? A.I remember that my grandmothe... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,118,700 | 1,119,200 |
A.Oh yes, they liked it. Q.Did they object to that, or prohibit it? A.No, they didn't. QWere you punished when you spoke Polish among yourselves? AOh no, never. QRemember, that very clearly, or rather try to remember as clearly as you can whether there has ever been a case in which punishment was administered for that ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,119,150 | 1,119,650 |
AUntil October 1944. QAnd where did you go then? AI went to Blannstadt to my foster parents. QTo the home of the Traitors? AYes, that is correct. QWere you sent there, or forced to go there? ANo, I wasn't. QDid you go voluntarily? AYes, I did. QWell, how did all that happen. Will you tell me about that please? AMy fost... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,119,600 | 1,120,100 |
please speak more clearly. Do you know whether your foster parents Treiber were members of the NSDAP? ANo, I know that for sure. QHow do you know that for sure? ABecause we got a letter from the deNazification court and I had that in my hands and I read it. QThat did the letter say? AThat they are not included within t... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,120,050 | 1,120,550 |
other kids and have nice clothes and a nice home, and play with the other kids; that is what you wanted , isn't it? A.Yes, yes, that is just what I wanted. Q.Do you remember what age you were when you went to Kalisch? A.I was thirteen. Q.You were thirteen; and you were born in 1931; is that right? A.Yes, that is right.... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,120,500 | 1,121,000 |
A.No, I don't. DR. RENTSCH:No further questions; thank you. EXAMINATION BY THE PRESIDENT: Q.Witness, when you left your grandmother's and went to the home to live, had the German Army at that time occupied Poland? A.Yes, that is right; there were German soldiers there. Q.When did you first find out that you were going ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,120,950 | 1,121,450 |
will Withhold and add nothing. (The witness repeated the oath) Proceed with the examination. DIRECT EXAMINATION BY DR. RENTSCH: QWitness, you may take the earphones off while you are speaking with me. Will you please state your full name for the benefit of the Tribunal A.My name is Hilde Mayer. Q.When were you born? A.... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,121,400 | 1,121,900 |
A.No; only as far as police notifications went, I was listed as "Redel". Q.And therefore I assume that this double name, "Mayer-Redel", appears on your Konnkarte? A.Yes. Q.Thank you. Do you have any brothers or sisters? A.Yes, I have one sister. Q.What is her name? A.Her name was Berbel. Q.You said her name was Berbel?... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,121,850 | 1,122,350 |
Did anybody tell you anything about your mother later? ANo. QDo you remember whether anybody ever, during all those years, until now, told you anything about your mother? AYes. QYes? AYes. QWho told you? ALate in 1947, two men from the IRO, the International Refugee Organization, came and asked me about my parents. I t... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,122,300 | 1,122,800 |
You mean the home was transferred by the Germans from Kopernika Street to some other place. Is that what you mean to say? AYes. We were transferred with the nuns, all the children and the nurses and everybody. QWell, what kind of nurses were they? ACatholic nuns. QAnd when this transfer took place the nuns came along, ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,122,750 | 1,123,250 |
to twelve months. Q.And then where did you go? A.I went to Brokau near Poznan. Q.How many girls went along? A.Thirty. Q.Could you tell me, perhaps, how this Brokau is written in Polish, about how? A.Broczow, B-r-o-c-z-o-w. Q.Now, how did you fare at Brokau? A.In Brokau we fared well. Q.How long did you stay there? A.Un... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,123,200 | 1,123,700 |
not. Q.When did you speak Police together? A.When amongst ourselves. Q.What do you mean among yourselves? A.When we didn't have lessons or were on the street. Q.Secretly? A.No, even with the teachers. We spoke Polish with Miss Ackerman because she wanted to learn Polish. Q.You don't know anything about the prohibition ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,123,650 | 1,124,150 |
also in an affidavit which she had made before that her date of birth was 1 January 1931. Can you explain that contradiction? A.No. Q.Now as you were so long together and so much together with this friend of yours, Aline Antczak, then I may assume that Fraeulein Antczak did express herself quite freely and quite often ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,124,100 | 1,124,600 |
you tell us something about them, who were they? AThose were girls from Tirol. QWhat else do you know about them? Don't you know any details. AThey were girls who went to school there. QBut how did they come to Achern from Tirol? AWell I couldn't tell you. QWere they Ethnic German girls? AI think so - all of them spoke... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,124,550 | 1,125,050 |
you visited once or several times? ATwice. QAnd when? I mean at what intervals - during what periods? AOnce in the summer and then once later. QAnd you met again then. After a long separation? AYes. QHow did your friend Antczak then tell you how she fared in the meantime. AYes she told me. QWell, what did she tell you?... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,125,000 | 1,125,500 |
fodder which she was supposed to give to the dogs because she was so hungry. ANo, Antczak didn't tell me about that. QShe didn't tell you? Did she ever tell you anything about the fact that this girl Kreceke fell ill and died because she had to work so much and go so little food? ANo. QNow, the last question concerning... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,125,450 | 1,125,950 |
Easter 1945. QBefore that were you a member of the B.d.M. at Sandhausen? ANo. QDid you go to school there? AYes, I went to grammar school. QDid you receive professional training? AYes. QFor what profession? AAs a tailor. QFor how long, when did you start getting this training? AAs from the 1st of May, 1946. QWell, toge... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,125,900 | 1,126,400 |
already before the death of my mother. QBut that was - Was your mother sick at that time? AI couldn't tell you. QNow, you stayed in Litzmannstadt until when? When were you taken to Brokau? A 1942. QIn 1942? Are you sure that it was 1942 instead of 1940? ANo, I rather think 1942. QAnd with you in the children's home in ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,126,350 | 1,126,850 |
1948.) DR.SCHMIDT (for the defendant Guenther Tesch): Your Honor, as my next witness I would like to call the witness Julie Semter. THE PRESIDENT:Let the witness come to the stand. JULIESEMTER, a witness took the stand and testified as follows: THE PRESIDENT:The witness will raise her right hand and repeat after me: I ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,126,800 | 1,127,300 |
in this home? A.Yes. Q.Do you know how many there were? A.About 20 to 30 girls and boys. Q.Did the children speak German or Polish? A.Oh, they spoke Polish. Q.And how was the treatment in this home? A.It was good. Q.Then you were allowed to speak Polish there. A.Yes, we were allowed to speak Polish there. Q.When you we... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,127,250 | 1,127,750 |
say, you are the only child there? 23 Jan 1948_A_MSD_14_2_Gaylord (Reischer) AYes. QDid you, before the end of the war, meet any Polish workers in the of your father? AYes, but I didn't talk to them. QDid your foster father prohibit you from speaking with those Polish workers. ANo. QAnd did you still go to school in St... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,127,700 | 1,128,200 |
what the home Oberweiss looked like? How many people worked there and how many children were there while you were there? AI don't know how many people there were. There were about 30 girls and boys. QDid children come and go at all different times? Did transports of children come in and then children leave at different... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,128,150 | 1,128,650 |
you stayed in this orphanage in Posen. AFrom when I was a very little girl until I was 12 years old I was in this orphanage in Posen. QWas that a Polish orphanage? AYes. QCan you still remember your real parents? ANo. QDid they treat you well in this Polish orphanage? ANo, they did not. QWhy not. AWe had to work an awf... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,128,600 | 1,129,100 |
put in the corner. QDid you ever hear that a child complained to you that he didn't got enough to eat? ANo. QWas the food sufficient; did you get enough to eat? AYes. QDid you also have a big orchard near the home? AYes. QWere you allowed to take fruits for yourself from this orchard and eat them? AYes. QDid you also h... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,129,050 | 1,129,550 |
to that. AI really don't know; I don't remember; I was always in homes in Posen. BY MR. NEELY: QYou were living, in this home in Posen in 1942? AYes, and then I was brought to Kalisch. QAnd when were you in Kalisch? AThat was 1942. QHow long did you remain in Kalisch? AOne year. QAnd did you speak any German before goi... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,129,500 | 1,130,000 |
was two until I was 12 years old. Q.You said now that you know that your mother was a German? A.Yes. Q.From where did you gain that knowledge? A.Because I had seen the birth certificate of my mother. Q.Then and where? Did you see it yourself? A.Yes, I saw the birth certificate. Q.Then was that, on what occasion? A.I ma... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,129,950 | 1,130,450 |
with us. Q.And the Polish children, were they brought back into the orphanage? A.Yes. Q.You say that you were brought away with several other German children? A.Yes. Q.And where were you brought? A.We were brought to Kalisch. Q.When was that? A.In 1943. Q.For how long did you stay in Kalisch? A.From 1943 in September u... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,130,400 | 1,130,900 |
A.I went to Oberweiss. Q.Together with the other children? A.No, there were only two others that came along with me, one of the other girls went directly from Kalisch into a foster home. Q.You are now speaking about the three children from Alexandrovo if I understand you correctly? A.Yes. Q.And you said that one of tho... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,130,850 | 1,131,350 |
to Posen or Alexandrowo, Poland? A.No, never. DR. SCHMIDT:No. further questions. Thank you. THE PRESIDENT:Proceed with the cross examination. CROSS EXAMINATION BY MISS JOHNSON: Q.What is your age now, please? A.I am seventeen. Q.Do you remember when Germany occupied Poland? A. 1939. Q.Was that in the fall of 1939; do y... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,131,300 | 1,131,800 |
age. Q.About your age; what about the boys' age? A.I don't know. Q.Were they children; were they babies; were they under five years old? A.No; there were no infants there. Q.Were they young enough that the older girls had to take care of them? A.No. MISS JOHNSON:I don't have any more questions, Your Honor. REDIRECT EXA... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,131,750 | 1,132,250 |
and auditing. At the end of 1935 I took over the job as the only member of the presidium of a real estate corporation in Berlin. In 1937 the chief of the personnel staff of the Reichsfuehrer SS, General Wolf, had me appointed to a full-time position in the commercial and economic fields in the personnel staff of the Re... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,132,200 | 1,132,700 |
from this office themselves. I was planned to become head of the department, Finance and Economics in the agency of Greifelt. At that time a suggestion came from the President of the German Reichsbank, who asked Himmler to agree to my appointment as chief of the personnel of the German Reichsbank. Himmler however, at t... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,132,650 | 1,133,150 |
the appointment of Sollmann as presiding officer of the Lebensborn. Q.Witness, the Prosecution has written a brochure called basis information, and has brought it to the official notice of the Tribunal. In this brochure it says that the Lebensborn had been subordinated to the RuSHA in the years 1943 to 1945; is that co... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,133,100 | 1,133,600 |
regardless of whether the parents of the expected child were married or not. Part of the fields of tasks of Lebensborn, later on, were all cases where expectant mothers had to fear that they would suffer the social ostracism to which unmarried mothers are still exposed in Germany even today. Therefore, these women, or ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,133,550 | 1,134,050 |
according to the government experience of the gentleman involved in the Reich Ministry of Finance, the independence of a private association such as Lebensborn would have been threatened if the Reich Ministry of the Interior had been called in as payment agency. Q.- Now, what other top level Reich authorities could hav... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,134,000 | 1,134,500 |
relation were the subventions of the Reich Ministry of Finance, in other words, the money paid by the German Reich for the prevention of abortions to the State resources and other revenues of the Lebensborn? A.- The proportion, if you take the average for 1940 and 1945 was about 1/3 up to 2/3, as conditions were in tho... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,134,450 | 1,134,950 |
German Children. Here again you come to about 1%. Q.- Witness, were you an export in the work of the Lebensborn? A.- The work of the Lebensborn in itself originally was strange to me. Therefore, when I attempted to re-organize the offices I could use only my common sense. In the difficult field of work of the Lebensbor... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,134,900 | 1,135,400 |
to you personally? A.- Temporarily, yes. Himmler at certain times was under the impression that in the Staff Department of the Waffen-SS with the personal staff he had a shortage in TO positions and, therefore, most of the time without the knowledge of the competent Main Office Chief he disposed of vacant TO positions ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,135,350 | 1,135,850 |
used these terms where they shouldn't have been applied and you did so in a rather careless manner. AYes. All of us in Lebensborn were laymen in the field of ethnic work. QBut in the field of real work of Lebensborn you succeeded to avoid such errors of concepts? AYes, in these fields we were experts. QNow about the re... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,135,800 | 1,136,300 |
a position to take their child along or at least to get it as soon as possible and keep the child with themselves and bring it up themselves. Therefore, Lebensborn got them jobs where it was possible for the mothers to keep the child and to devote attention to the child, that is, to live with the child. The child was s... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,136,250 | 1,136,750 |
reported to you? AIn fact, in some cases I received information that relatives of children h ad turned up suddenly as we made efforts to clarify the descent of these children and on account of the clearing of the way which I had ordered to get the children in clear conditions after the homes in the Warthegau were disso... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,136,700 | 1,137,200 |
that at the time when I was with the Lebensborn it was perhaps submitted to me, because here in Nurnberg I found out that this decree existed in the Lebensborn. QDid one of you collaborators participate in the drawing up of this Decree 67-1? ANot according to my knowledge because in this respect I made considerable res... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,137,150 | 1,137,650 |
Poznan. I was to got a general impression of the extent and the activities of his agency, and above all, I was to use the opportunity to become personally acquainted with him. At the time the impression I gained was so excellent, particularly the impression I had with the Gau administration director, Dr. Bartels that d... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,137,600 | 1,138,100 |
I was impressed by the fact that until the collapse Himmler considered and pronounced suicide as an act which was dishonorable and which would be punished beyond death by the Honor Court of the SS. If a man like Himmler commits suicide after all that, then I cannot forgot that and forgive it. I term that as a cowardly ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,138,050 | 1,138,550 |
at the occasion of a reception of SS candidates, I only know his speech to the employees of the justice administration of the Greater German Reich, a speech which he made in 1944 or 1943 at Kochem on the Mosel. I read this speech. This, according to my knowledge, was the only speech where Himmler, amongst others, refer... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,138,500 | 1,139,000 |
was really deeply moved and overwhelmed. To a circle of employees of the Lebensborn Himmler described this occurrence and told them that this young man had stated that with the woman who had really found right to keep away from her own child for 16 years he wanted to have nothing to do and this incident as Himmler said... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,138,950 | 1,139,450 |
the matter of the United States of America against Ulrich Greifelt, et al, defendants, sitting at Nurnberg, Germany, on 26 January 1948, the Honorable Lee Wyatt, presiding. THE MARSHAL:The Honorable, the Judges of Military Tribunal I. Military Tribunal I is now in session. God save the United States of America and this... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,139,400 | 1,139,900 |
the fact that these children were actually ethnic German orphans without any family ties. Of course on this occasion I did not make any inquiries, in what function the Higher SS and Police Leader had called me. I don't know whether he did this in his capacity as Higher SS and Police Leader, that is to say as a Governme... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,139,850 | 1,140,350 |
ascertain here in Nurnberg of these quite a number were returned. QYou stated that in the ease of these children you have given assurance that these children were of ethnic German origin and that their parents were not alive any more. AYes, repeatedly and extensively we were told that by various 26 Jan 1948_M_MSD_1_4_L... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,140,300 | 1,140,800 |
only concerning myself with ethnic German orphans who did not have any families, that is to say, orphans without relatives. On this occasion I found out that there were only two orphans altogether who perhaps would he of interest for the Lebensborn. Frank regretted at the time that I had been ordered to come to Prague ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,140,750 | 1,141,250 |
a partly executed measure in 1944 was neither mentioned by Frank nor by Piess in the course of our discussion in 1943. QIn your affidavit, Exhibit 13, you stated that in your discussion the fact had been mentioned that children who were older than 16 years were to be sent into labor camps. What sort of camps did you vi... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,141,200 | 1,141,700 |
that these children were sent there and of course Lebensborn had nothing to do with it. The District Self Administration of Posen already at that time considered the Lebensborn to be an exemplary institution in the field of care and assistance for children. The men in the District Self Administration office in Salzberg... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,141,650 | 1,142,150 |
in this case the mother of the children was still alive, and that she was in a concentration camp. The Lebensborn immediately reported this information to the prospective foster parents. Furthermore, at the same time, the Lebensborn requested the decision of Himmler of what was to be done in this case. The experts alre... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,142,100 | 1,142,600 |
a file which I kept whenever I reported to the Reichsfuehrer, and I would use it on that occasion, and I wanted to discuss the whole matter with Himmler in person; however, this discussion never took place. QIn conclusion and in any case you can state that the foster parents of these children had been informed about th... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,142,550 | 1,143,050 |
considered as inferior in the Reich. During the war these attempts of considering these people inferior had strengthened, and they were even expressed in various decrees in such a way that these people were put on a lower level even as far as food was concerned if they could not prove they had become citizens of the Re... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,143,000 | 1,143,500 |
paragraphs 25 and 26 of the German Law Code, I acted as a result of plenipotentiary powers given to me by the Reich Ministry of the Interior in order to comply with the provisions set forth in this law. QWhat fifteen or twenty cases are you referring to just now? AAmongst the ethnic Germansorphans without families, the... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,143,450 | 1,143,950 |
in the Warthegau informed us that no official term was available at all about these children; or, that the children in the orphanages, or in the foster homes had been given Polinized German names; or Polish names, which they had been given privately in the foster homes and in the orphanages because their correct names ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,143,900 | 1,144,400 |
witness Dr. Schulz, who was competent for this matter, and who was the only man who dealt with these things in the Lebensborn, and who had extensive knowledge in this field, and who can rightly be called an expert, this Prosecution witness, Dr. Schulz, on the 5th of November, 1947 testified about this matter before the... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,144,350 | 1,144,850 |
in ascertaining the origin of these children. Q.Up to now we only talked about fifteen or twenty cases, where birth certificates of these children had to be issued without any information about these children being available. How was it done in the other cases, that is to say in the majority of cases? A.I want to repea... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,144,800 | 1,145,300 |
am speaking of tax reductions and government subsistence for children, I must mention something else, which was recently mentioned in the cross-examination of a witness, and that was the subsistence allowance for a child. This was customary especially in Bavaria and Austria -- that is to say, in the Southern German cou... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,145,250 | 1,145,750 |
inferior in any case, because it had come from the East. That was the situation which existed in Germany proper. Q.Witness, the Prosecution assumes that the utilization of the letterheads from the Main Staff Office was a clear proof of the fact that the Registration OfficeL ofLebensborn was identical with Lebensborn, a... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,145,700 | 1,146,200 |
anyway, because it belongs there." Then he would have seen my point and he would have complied with my request. Therefore, it wasn't too bad at all that all these matters were handled through the Lebensborn in one unit, with the aim of turning them over to some other agency some day. Whether this was Office L, or wheth... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,146,150 | 1,146,650 |
Warthegau, however, did not come from Poland, and they did not come from the Government General. They did not cone to Germany from Poland, but they came from the territory which, at that time, according to our national opinion, was the liberated Warthegau, according to the laws which were prevalent at the time. They we... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,146,600 | 1,147,100 |
in the Wartegau where such children could live without danger. Q and these evacuation camps, were they Lebensborn homes? ANo they were not Lebensborn homes. I designated them permanent kindergartens with accomodations for sleeping overnight. The Gauself administration Poznan in some of their homes created accommodation... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,147,050 | 1,147,550 |
this request because I had sufficient space in the Reich German Lebensborn homes. In some cases the Higher SS and Police Leaders had turned to Himmler and Himmler instructed me to establish Lebensborn homes for example in Holland, Belgium, France, Denmark, and in the government general, and once he even spoke of Latvia... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,147,500 | 1,148,000 |
is to say I made the personnel available to them and took care to see that these homes were maintained at the standard of Reich German homes. These two homes in Belgium and France were subordinated to the Higher SS and Police leaders. QThe Lebensborn representative at the Higher SS and Police Leader France is mentioned... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,147,950 | 1,148,450 |
of the Reichskommissar which would be able to take over the organization and operational functions involved. QIf you sent personnel there did you make use of Lebensborn aides and assistants? AYes. These aides, however, resigned from Lebensborn, and they became employees of the Reichskommissar for the Occupied Norwegian... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,148,400 | 1,148,900 |
in Lebensborn for a longer period of time if that had been possible and approved. However, it was not approved, and in these cases the Norwegian mothers, of course, returned to Norway with their children, as far as they did not marry the father of their child. QWitness, in the Prosecution's Exhibit 496, the prosecution... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,148,850 | 1,149,350 |
protest letter to the Reich Security Main Office. In my letter of protest I specifically referred to my oral discussion with Himmler, which discussion with Himmler was attended by the president of the Reich Culture Chamber , SS Gruppenfuehrer Vost. Contrary to expectations we had the good fortune to hear as witness an ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,149,300 | 1,149,800 |
all my life I never spoliated, I never stole, I never robbed, nor did I by any means acquire the possession, the illegal possession of other persons property. This applies both to me personally as well as to members of my family and to the companies and organizations of which I was in charge up to now. Lebensborn did a... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,149,750 | 1,150,250 |
as Point 5 is concerned, I have to add that this so-called Bromberger Camp had been taken over under a trustee by my predecessor, Standartenfuehrer Pflaum. The clean and absolute handling of this trusteeship was carried on with great energy at my time. This order had been given in December or November, 1939, that is be... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,150,200 | 1,150,700 |
was issued by Dr. Kramer-Moellenberg. I also know that the Supreme Accounting Society of the German Reich as the supreme aditing office of the German Reich, audited this matter and was surprised at the care and bureaucratic procedure which had been observed by Lebensborn in this matter. Lebensborn itself also had expen... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,150,650 | 1,151,150 |
were to be trained for this type of work and these professions were to be carried out in the settlement so that by these means they would be able and capable to act as their own chiefs of household. He pursued this idea with absolute obstinancy. I, myself, expressed my misgivings to him, but he told me to keep away by ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,151,100 | 1,151,600 |
Higher SS and Police Leader of the Government-General due to the fact that I didn't pay any attention to his desires. Consequently, he approached Himmler, and Himmler sent me a teletype communication that I was to expedite the establishment of the operation of a Lebensborn Hime in the Government-General. This Higher SS... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,151,550 | 1,152,050 |
revealed that thy Higher SS and Police Leader had had another conception of a Lebensborn home than what a Lebensborn home actually was, and I have been successful to bring it about--that the Reich Health Leader personally went to Cracow in order to gain his own impressions of these confused conditions existing there. T... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,152,000 | 1,152,500 |
home and I succeeded in doing so. Finally, Krueger would offer one object one day and another one the next day,and Krueger was the Higher SS and Police Leader. I used delaying tactics in postponing the matter. The term "Ottwocks" also comes under the same subject. On this site which actually would have been suitable, w... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,152,450 | 1,152,950 |
to us by the deputies of the field offices. The term "field offices" used in ignorance of the actual facts which prevailed, and I used it wrongly. I had already pointed out to the interrogator previously that I was not precisely informed about all these incidents, and furthermore it has only come to my knowledge now th... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,152,900 | 1,153,400 |
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