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The Race and Settlement Main Office never heard about those cases, was never informed about them. Fundamentally speaking, it didn't have to be called in either because the orders were unambiguous, The Prosecution has submitted a document which is No. 3454, Exhibit 384, and this document leads to very interesting conclu... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,063,350 | 1,063,850 |
me. It was signed with my stamp. I have already explained this stamp signing a while ago. This man Harders who is already known from the racial office, has signed for correctness. Q.In other words Herders signed this document with your name and passed it on without getting your prior approval? A.Yes, and he passed it o... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,063,800 | 1,064,300 |
see, 480, yes. I have it now, yes 480 and 483, yes. About 483 I have to stress that that at a period when I was with the Army group. I don't know the letter. Taking now 484 - Q. Well, we have already mentioned that. A. Then on statistics. We didn't receive any statistics. Such statistics were kept with the health autho... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,064,250 | 1,064,750 |
Higher SS and Police Leader; 9, the National Socialist Welfare, in other words, the Nazi Party in the case of a positive judgment; and 10, the Foreign Children Welfare Home of the DAF or Reichs Food Association. Q.Ill you please look at page 7 of this document, witness? Were you connected with the separation of infants... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,064,700 | 1,065,200 |
save whatever valuable blood he judged would be useful for Germany from these severe punishments. Q. Witness, would you look at Exhibits 522, 523 and 527, from Document Book XI. According to these documents inmates of concentration camps were to be examined in individual cases as to their racial characteristics. What d... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,065,150 | 1,065,650 |
to prevent that negative judgments should be given without due consideration; negative opinions which later on might have unfavorable results for the person involved. That was the real reason why in a letter which has been made available for me here I insisted very strongly that the racial examiner should be called in ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,065,600 | 1,066,100 |
States of America and this Honorable Tribunal. There will be order in the court. THE PRESIDENT:Mr. Marshal, have you ascertained that all defendants are present in court? THE MARSHAL:May it please Your Honors, all the defendants are present in the court save the defendant Viermetz who is absent due to illness. THE PRES... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,066,050 | 1,066,550 |
when I was not in the office. QWhat about Exhibit 284, from Document Book V_D. It deals with the resettlement action in northern France and was signed by a certain Schultz; I think that is the name: I am not sure. AYes. There again you have a letter issued directly by the racial office; it is signed by the chief of the... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,066,500 | 1,067,000 |
Klinnert. QTherefore, the letter remained unknown to you? AYes, the letter is completely unknown to me. QWell, then, I have to point to Exhibit 128, from Document Book IV_C, with which I have dealt already in brief in the matters of the 21 Jan 1948_M_MSD_1_4_Sampson (Treidell) higher SS and police leader, Danzig West P... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,066,950 | 1,067,450 |
I have already talked about that yesterday. At the time, as soldier as well as a human being, I considered that wrong, at least in its final effects and still today I am of the same opinion. My policy was oriented in accordance with that principle and I have already talked about it at length here. Q.Were you in any way... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,067,400 | 1,067,900 |
submitted and when the Tribunal comes to writing its judgment, if it has no probative value, it will be placed aside together with a great deal of evidence that has already been introduced by both the Prosecution and the Defense that has no probative value. Go ahead. DR. FROESCHMANN:I am then handing the document to th... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,067,850 | 1,068,350 |
southern Russia. I must say that the Prosecution have only made very vague charges which are intended to incriminate you; but you certainly recall that there was a witness here by the name of Gerbel, who brought at first a few points which apparently might incriminate you, but he had to rectify his statements afterward... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,068,300 | 1,068,800 |
trafic. At that time Field Marshal von Kleist gave me the very personal and difficult assignment of preventing, at any cost, the reads being crammed with civilian population, particularly such roads as were decisive for the maintenance of the rear communications. That was a task which was not easy, because there were t... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,068,750 | 1,069,250 |
always distinguished himself up to that point, it was impossible to fight these masses which poured in everywhere. As early as February, a strong attack by the Russians was to be expected from the North and from the East, from Kertsch, and every effort was made to prevent that attack. We knew that if the Russians succe... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,069,200 | 1,069,700 |
behalf of Field Marshal von Kleist. I put it to them that it was necessary to correct the defenses on that point because it was a platform for a very dangerous attack. I said we needed a few regiments for that, and with these regiments we could normally guarantee to hold the Crimea Peninsula. They refused to give us th... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,069,650 | 1,070,150 |
you want to put it this way, the fate of a soldier to fight. QNow, what about the evacuation of the civilian population? AAs I said, the civilian population could go back with us if they wanted to. We informed them that we would supply them with the necessary food, and so on, in so far as it was possible for us to do s... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,070,100 | 1,070,600 |
I ask you whether you can confirm what is stated in there. AYes, I have read the document, and it is in line with the facts; I can countersign it entirely. In some points Gerbel corrected his statements. Perhaps has a better recollection of these matters now than at the time when he testified. QWitness, I want to ask y... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,070,550 | 1,071,050 |
fact that I hadn't even known him before; somehow, he must have heard about me. Unfortunately, he said, the armed forces were in no position to do anything, and so on and so forth. I must admit that I was rather surprised by this request at the time because I certainly had other worries. The situation was serious and I... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,071,000 | 1,071,500 |
disposal of those nuns for such purposes. QWitness, I think that might conclude your activities in southern Russia also. In August 1944, you were recalled then because the Reichsfuehrer SS demanded that you take over the leadership of the RuSHA again, is that correct? AYes, that is correct. QDo you have anything to add... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,071,450 | 1,071,950 |
was then Chief of the Staff with Sepp Dietrich, General of the Waffen SS, commanding at that time the SS main sector at Munich. Himmler apparently was satisfied with my work and very soon I got into the real circle of the SS -- all the more as we were all joined together by a very nice comradeship because nobody at tha... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,071,900 | 1,072,400 |
it criminal if a human being trios to be faithful, loyal, dutiful, and chivalrous, and does his duty in all other matters. THE PRESIDENT:The Tribunal will recess until 11 o'clock. (A recess was taken.) THE MARSHAL:The Tribunal is again in session. THE PRESIDENT:Proceed with the examination. BY DR. FROESCHMANN: Q.Witnes... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,072,350 | 1,072,850 |
that; I consider that to be disertion." Therefore, one cannot leave an order; that is what he considered the SS to be, because a person has to adhere to the ideology and idealism of this order until his death and that was his opinion. In this connection he only forgot that he himself had become unloyal to these ideas t... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,072,800 | 1,073,300 |
develop a new front of people when we cannot trust and whose feelings we don't know." That point of view, of course, was correct because every front must be fortified and secure its real lines. However, that was wrong at the time because those people were honestly willing to be our allies and they would have worked tog... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,073,250 | 1,073,750 |
came from all professions in public life. Every one of them said the same thing; everyone of them wanted to have a change. In spite of that no change was effected, because Hitler was isolated and since in this connection he must have been suspicious or he must have held his own opinion, I can't explain it otherwise. Fr... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,073,700 | 1,074,200 |
to anybody. Without the knowledge of the Fuehrer I have established contact with England. At the tine this was a very pleasant surprise for me. I told him and I asked him just what he thought he was going to do in this matter. He told me at the tine, and I quote, "Just keep your nerves steady," -- by the way I did have... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,074,150 | 1,074,650 |
And only afterwards did I hear through Dr. Best, the representative of the German Reich in Denmark, at Copenhagen, during the past war, that everything that Himmler had told me was correct, in the following way; The Chairman of the foreign political committee of the Swedish Reichstag, Fogt, was requested in London by M... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,074,600 | 1,075,100 |
mistaken wich cannot be repaired and of course they have a strong connection with each ether. As far as his character is concerned he was not harmonical; and these people usually have an inferiority complex, and they react to this complex by exaggerating all sorts of things. He was very ambitious; he did not tend towar... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,075,050 | 1,075,550 |
great amount of courage, will, and power. Himmler, however, as far as his will was concerned, was a weakling, and from the discrepancy between these two facts, namely on the one hand this giant organization, and on the other hand the fact that he was a weakling from those two things the entire situation resulted. All t... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,075,500 | 1,076,000 |
educate people to give their best in their respective professions. They wanted to educate people in the thought of the national community, and they wanted to orient public life accordingly. They wanted to train people along the basic fundamentals of the military service, that is, chivalry, obedience, loyalty. They want... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,075,950 | 1,076,450 |
the General SS to a European solidarity. The reputation which Himmler enjoyed in the Waffen SS, was normal at the beginning and later on it deteriorated, and from 1943 on, his reputation was not good at all any more with the Waffen SS, and this not at least for the reason because Himmler himself had never been a combat... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,076,400 | 1,076,900 |
lost many hundreds of men whom I knew personally, and who today are buried all over Europe. It is known that the losses in the Waffen SS were extremely high, and according to their percentage, much higher than those of all the other branches of the Wehrmacht. I know that these men were not only brave but they were good... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,076,850 | 1,077,350 |
I don't know where it is, I can't find it here on page 1 ---- QGeneral, please take a look at Paragraph 3 of your affidavit, on the first page, at the bottom. A oh, yes, I sec it. QGeneral, what do you mean by the sentence in your affidavit, that Schwalm as a staff leader would draw up and check all decrees and regulat... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,077,300 | 1,077,800 |
recall the matter. QCan you still recall the approximate contents of this letter? AI believe this was a letter which was sent by field post. QDo you know why Himmler reproached Hofmann? ACould you perhaps give me a hint what you refer to, because Himmler would raise frequent complaints. QI am referring to the so-called... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,077,750 | 1,078,250 |
text. AYes, I have found it. QAnd now my questions with regard to points 12, abortions, and 13, the kidnapping of infants. In your examination by my highly esteemed colleague Froeschmann, it was mentioned that these decrees had been issued by the Main Staff Office. Will you be kind enough to take a look at the letterhe... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,078,200 | 1,078,700 |
that was already in the very character of Heydrich, who tried to maintain his competence and jurisdiction and defended it against any interference. THE PRESIDENT:The Tribunal will recess until 1:30. (A recess was taken.) AFTERNOON SESSION (The Tribunal reconvened at 1330 hours, 21 January 1948) THE MARSHAL:The Tribunal... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,078,650 | 1,079,150 |
the same opinion as I did, and he couldn't have had another opinion because that was the only possible and acceptable opinion, and that was the opinion he had to represent as chief of the Main Staff Office. Therefore, he did not have and he did not seek an especially close contact with Forster; he would not have gotten... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,079,100 | 1,079,600 |
right to do. I think I can recall that he afforded quite a bit of money from a theater from some funds he had at his disposal. Q.And what were the funds Winkler and the HTo had at their disposal, amongst others? I mean, was he connected with the seized Polish property? A.Yes, quite. He was closely connected with that. ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,079,550 | 1,080,050 |
the representative of the RUS Main Office, RUSHA. However, apart from that the field agency Lodz of the RUSHA existed in the Warthegau. In view of that situation how can one understand your testimony concerning the representation by the RUS Leader? AYes, well, you see there must be a misunderstanding here. Wherever a m... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,080,000 | 1,080,500 |
had no activity at the time. because I was at that time also a member of the Oberland association which took up all my time. QWitness, - AI am - QI am sorry, did you complete your answer, Witness? Or do you 21 Jan 1948_A_MSD_14_3_Bratzel (Treidell) wish to say something else? AI wanted to add that in New York -- I want... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,080,450 | 1,080,950 |
sexual intercourse with German women? AThe term "special treatment" apparently refers to that case, yes. QWitness, didn't you know that one of the possible decisions in these cases was the death penalty, if the man was decided not to be racially valuable? AI told you already that the racial judgment was not the only co... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,080,900 | 1,081,400 |
concerning all the substantial RUS matters, but nothing new occurred during my term in Russia. There is only one matter that occurred which he put down here in the documents. That is the meeting of the RUS leaders. The meeting which was submitted also by the prosecutor as a document. This meeting was called by me. I ga... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,081,350 | 1,081,850 |
that I remained, and, therefore, in March I issued this complementary and clarifying decree, or had it issued, because it was only signed with my stamp. That was the only thing that was possible. I was not on the spot. And thereby Thurner was enabled to act as Chief of the RuSHA. QWitness, you will see Paragraph No. 2 ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,081,800 | 1,082,300 |
case here. QWitness, you have been described by your counsel, and have described yourself here, as being a kindly seeker after justice. Didn't you over have to act in a cruel and harsh manner? Didn't you ever have to nave people shot? AI can't recall any such instance, but may I add a few words concerning this Thurner ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,082,250 | 1,082,750 |
letter was complete insanity, because at that time Siebenbuergen was already threatened by the Russian spearheads. It is a typical Himmler order. It was just a typical order of this utopical fool in which he tried to get his malice rut of his system. I myself, succeeded with a lot of difficulty to get out of Siebenbuer... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,082,700 | 1,083,200 |
that: I learned about it through SS Judge Morgan worked with me for a certain period, and the Tribunal knows that, and it has been testified to already before the IMT. Q.- Witness, in your direct examination you have tried to show that you were against Himmler and that you really wanted to end the war -- at least in De... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,083,150 | 1,083,650 |
is equivalent to our American status of Lieutenant General. Then you made reference to being General of the Police. Is that a different office? A.- Yes, your Honor. Q.- Would you be good enough to explain the distinction so that I may understand them? A.- With pleasure, Your Honor. An Obergruppenfuehrer is in the rank ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,083,600 | 1,084,100 |
the Armed Forces? A.- The Gestapo was a part of the Security Police. Substantially speaking, it was not connected with the Armed Forces. Q.- Who headed the Gestapo in final directing authority? A.- Chief of the Gestapo in direct instance was a certain Lieutenant General Mueller; while the Supreme Chief was the Chief of... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,084,050 | 1,084,550 |
beginning of March 1933 I was sent to Thuringia. In the meantime, I had been transferred from the SA to the SS, and in 1933 until 1934 I worked at Weimar as Chief of an SS main sector with the office rank of an SS Major General. In 1934 I went to Dresden and there I was taken over in the State Office as a Government Pr... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,084,500 | 1,085,000 |
here have produced quite a bit of material to clarify the concept of Higher SS and Police Leader: a simple collaborator of Hildebrandt, and an employee of Hildebrandt, and a subordinate of his, and now you as Higher SS and Police Leader yourself are here. I would like to have a few explanations on matters pertaining to... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,084,950 | 1,085,450 |
on the same level but aside from those channels of command, the orders were issued by the police. That is very significant, it was important for us and it created an extremely difficult situation for us. Q.Witness, in other words the situation was that the Higher SS and Police Leader had no powers to issue orders to th... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,085,400 | 1,085,900 |
this dated already from the period before 1933 and therefore there was constant friction between the Higher powers and the police leadership agencies. During my painful nine year long experience in Munich and Dresden I had to find out the hard way. The Gauleiters at that time were my superiors and for nine years I was ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,085,850 | 1,086,350 |
misuse me now for such a matter which had nothing to do with my affairs. Another case, during my last period, was when Reich Defense Commissar and Gauleiter Paul Giesser in which on 20 July 1944 notified me that I was to arrest an officer on the general staff from the staff of the Army district Commander at Munich. Whe... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,086,300 | 1,086,800 |
since 1922, and I served the cause for 23 years without reprimand, that I had the rank of a General in the Waffen SS of the police and that it was even impossible for me to say one word for my justification and within 48 hours I was fired and the Gauleiter had somebody also appointed in my position. That was only to de... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,086,750 | 1,087,250 |
as strange as this may seem. I always maintained the point of view that the whole institution of the agencies and positions of the higher SS and police Leader was an experiment on the part of Himmler to finally organize his state security corps which he was thinking about. This was a plan that out of the SS, which was ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,087,200 | 1,087,700 |
power of command. Q.- However, this only applied to Bohemia and Moravia. A.- Yes, I know of these two examples. I know that in those areas the higher SS and police leaders had the title of state secretaries. Q.- Now, I want to turn to another subject which I want to discuss with you. The Prosecution has repeatedly char... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,087,650 | 1,088,150 |
the latter spoke extremely intensively towards Hitler. Unfortunately, I was seated too far away and I could not understand what was going on because there was a lot of noise in the dining room since food was being served there and the room was crowded. However, Hitler left extremely early and I had to take him back to ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,088,100 | 1,088,600 |
to Hitler. I would like to emphasize in that connection that all Higher SS and police leaders in that night after the ceremony would be the guests of Himmler in his hotel, and such an invitation only occurred once a year. All of them at this time were in Munich. I myself in the hotel received the report that looting wa... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,088,550 | 1,089,050 |
this drive. I personally cannot say anything about this matter because I was out in the streets all night long. When I came back to the hotel, and this may have been at three o'clock in the morning, by that time the riot had been completed. Q.- That is sufficient for me, witness. However, from your examination we can s... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,089,000 | 1,089,500 |
whatsoever, because the Gestapo, which was not subordinated to me, acted in this matter in their own competence, and worked together in this case with the Jewish Community, and that is how they prepared and carried out those transports. I am today still of the same conviction that if I myself had not started an investi... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,089,450 | 1,089,950 |
generally known that these concentration camps and extermination camps were operated with a degree of secrecy in which a person who did not directly work in this matter and had nothing directly to do with it, could not possibly find out anything about it. Q.- In your opinion is it correct or incorrect that the members ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,089,900 | 1,090,400 |
Q.- I have no further questions; thank you. THE PRESIDENT:Proceed with the cross examination. CROSS EXAMINATION BY MR. SHILLER: Q.Witness, during direct examination you have been able to answer questions fully and give as complete an answer as you wished. But during my cross examination I only have a limited time and w... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,090,350 | 1,090,850 |
way would I have signed it. After all, that would have been quite illegal. The man hadn't done anything. Q.Yes, witness, but what I am anxious to find out is did you ever issue warrants for arrest for any one? A.No. Q.Not even in your capacity - A.Perhaps I could have passed on the opinion of the Minister to a police a... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,090,800 | 1,091,300 |
received the order of the Reich Defense Commissar that, "You have to fight, and I am informing you now of that, and now you will have to start fighting. That is all." However, I refused to do so because I considered this to be an insane measure. Q.Witness, you stated that you were removed from your post within 48 hours... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,091,250 | 1,091,750 |
connection with that? A.This difference should amount to approximately two or three hours. THE PRESIDENT:You have time for one more question. BY MR. SHILLER: Q.Witness, why was it necessary to issue, as you claim, a special order that the men of the SS should not participate in the riots and excesses? A.I assume that H... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,091,700 | 1,092,200 |
important factors. Q.What I would like to know, witness, is whether you know anything about the character of Hildebrandt, and whether you can give a judgment on it in your summing up. A.I only know him to be a quiet and very considerate man who had a very good family life end who in every respect pursued the ethical ai... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,092,150 | 1,092,650 |
should like to ask one short question. THE PRESIDENT:I have been hearing all about this all this week and most of last so I don't think that is a new question. MR. SHILLER:Thank you. BY THE PRESIDENT: Q.Witness, in order to clear up my own mind I would like to ask you one or, two questions. This meeting tint you testif... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,092,600 | 1,093,100 |
know? AApproximately 1,500 to 1,700. QI understood you to say that these men were sworn in when the exercise was held at midnight, 12 o'clock. AYes. QWas that exercise held that night; were these men sworn in at 12 o'clock that night? AYes. QHow many SS men would you say, altogether, were in Munich that night? ABetween... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,093,050 | 1,093,550 |
After all there is a difference here. THE PRESIDENT:If you expect the members of this Tribunal to understand what you are talking about, I should think you had better talk in English. Otherwise we don't understand it. DR. HESSE:Perhaps I could take up the matter with the SecretaryGeneral. Thank you, your Honor, DR. FRO... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,093,500 | 1,094,000 |
Interior, as an official of the Wuerttemberg internal administration. QWhat education have you received? AAfter I matriculated, I studied law; I took the two state examinations, and then I entered the internal administration. QWere you a member of the SS? ANo. QWhat tasks did you have to deal with in the agency of the ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,093,950 | 1,094,450 |
Gestapo or of the Reich Security Main Office? AMay I supplement the question? I assume you asked me about decisions with regard to foreign workers? QYes, with regard to foreign workers. AThe Higher SS and Police Leader was informed of decisions with regard to foreign workers, that is to say, in the form of letters from... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,094,400 | 1,094,900 |
the Higher SS and Police Leader from and I want to be very cautious and take the highest figure--there were, at the most, between 15 and 20 such cases. Q.Amongst these cases, were there also cases pertaining to illicit sexual intercourse between Germans and citizens of the eastern nations? A.I cannot recall any such ca... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,094,850 | 1,095,350 |
and activity in this field. I also know that whenever air-raids occurred, the defendant would regularly visit the places which had been hit, and there he would make recommendations for measures which could be taken. He also wanted to be informed constantly about the progress of the aerial war and about damage which had... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,095,300 | 1,095,800 |
was subordinated to the Higher SS and Police leader. The concentration camps were subordinated to the SS WVHA, as far as I can recall, or they were subordinated to the Gestapo. QDid the defendant Hofmann have anything to do officially with the procurement of foreign labor? ANo, that was outside of his jurisdiction. QWh... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,095,750 | 1,096,250 |
as I know, was a member of the actual agency as such. QCould the Higher SS and Police Leader, witness, give orders to the RUS leader? AI don't think that he could give them factual orders -- I am only giving you my opinion now -- because factually the Race and Settlement leader was probably subordinated to the Race and... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,096,200 | 1,096,700 |
connection with the Party? ANo, I did not want to join it because, as I have stated before, the SS did not make any compromises whatsoever towards other ideologies, and that is the way it represented National Socialist ideology? QDid the National Socialist Party make any compromise towards Court No. I, Case No. VIII. a... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,096,650 | 1,097,150 |
this agricultural society come under the term of real estate and did it deal with those questions? A.Yes. Q.What other reasons played a part in the fact that these real estate properties gave employment to SS men? A.In this case, our men worked very cheaply for the settlement society in the Baltic countries, and the ag... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,097,100 | 1,097,600 |
owned by the state or they were farms which during the time when the Russians occupied the country had become the property of the state. Q.Could you give some details about this to the Tribunal. At what time were these made property of the state? A.In the year 1939 to 1940. Q.This was at the time when Russia occupied t... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,097,550 | 1,098,050 |
rationswere stored and things of that sort. QFrom what time on were you in charge of the business transactions of the settlement office? AAfter the evacuation in the east, that is to say, from December 1944. QWitness, I am now going to hand you a document which was drafted during the time when you worked in the settlem... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,098,000 | 1,098,500 |
estate properties to whom these accounts were to be rendered. In this we succeeded in one or two cases and then we were able to turn over these sums to these competent authorities. I know exactly that an accounting agency of a real estate property was located at Brandenburg and that a larger sum was turned ever to that... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,098,450 | 1,098,950 |
that from my own experience. Q.Witness, outside of the fact, as you say, that the title was not changed, did not the Settlement Office of RuSHA consider these enterprises as RuSHA enterprises? A.RuSHA never considered these enterprises as their property for they did not belong to the RuSHA but were enterprises belongin... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,098,900 | 1,099,400 |
of the original the expression "Horses owned by the RuSHA"- was called to my attention. The expert who, at the time, drew up this document did, in my opinion, take this expression "Owned by the RuSHA" from paragraph 1 of page 1 of the original and transferred it to page Q.Witness, that is your guess or assumption, is t... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,099,350 | 1,099,850 |
I please hear that question again? Q.Witness, which was the agency that registered the SS men, from a personnel point of view, within the RuSHA? A.That was the Settlement Office. Q.Well, which was the actual office there? Was there a personnel office? A.Yes, it was a personnel expert. Q.Let us now turn to this accounti... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,099,800 | 1,100,300 |
will be Document Hofmann #4, an affidavit by Hermann Harm concerning the activities of the RuSHA under Darre. Exhibit #8, which is Document Hofmann #5, is an affidavit by Ebrecht concerning the activities of RuSHA under Darre. My Exhibit 9, Document Hofmann #6, is an affidavit by Dr. Joachim Caesar concerning the train... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,100,250 | 1,100,750 |
and activities of the classification experts. Hofmann Document No. 18 will become Exhibit No. 37, and is an excerpt from a speech that Himmler made, 1918-PS, concerning the tasks of Himmler as Reich Commissar for the Strengthening of Germanism and the carrying out of those tasks. Document Hofmann No. 19 I already offer... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,100,700 | 1,101,200 |
Russia. As Exhibit 49 I would like to offer Hofmann Document No. 33. This is an excerpt from the gazette of the Ministry of the Interior, dated 1943, and it concerns the German People's List. Hofmann Document No. 34 will become Exhibit 50. It is an excerpt from the gazette of the Ministry of Interior of 1942 and concer... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,101,150 | 1,101,650 |
Germans. This speech was made before April 1940. My next document to be submitted will be Hofmann Document No. 50, which will become Exhibit 58. It is a copy from the general collection of decrees and contains an order of the RSH A, dated 30th March 1943, concerning the treatment of Russian prisoners of war. As Exhibit... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,101,600 | 1,102,100 |
of decrees. Hofmann Document No. 65 will become Exhibit 71; it is an excerpt from the general collection of decrees, dated 12th February 1943. Hofmann Document No. 66 is to become Exhibit 72, and it is a letter of the Ministry of Justice concerning treatment of prisoners of war. Hofmann Document No. 67 is to become Exh... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,102,050 | 1,102,550 |
The following document numbers now will correspond to the exhibit numbers. They are: No. 83, an excerpt from the book "Der Menscheneinsatz" (Allocation of Manpower), a letter of Greifelt, directed to the Higher SS and Police Leader, of 31 July 1940, concerning the treatment of persons suitable for regermanization. Exhi... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,102,500 | 1,103,000 |
that this whole document book is supposed to be concerned altogether with plundering and spoliation. Court No. I, Case No. VIII. As my Exhibit 101 I would like to submit an excerpt from Document No.EC-410, concerning the powers of confiscation by way of the Main Trustee Office East. My Exhibit 102 will become an excerp... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,102,950 | 1,103,450 |
This morning I stated, in the case of Exhibit No. 98, in Document No. 3998 was not submitted as an Exhibit. I have now ascertained that it was submitted later on, during cross-examination, as Exhibit 804. At the time when I compiled my document, however, it had not as yet been offered. Then, I have another correction t... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,103,400 | 1,103,900 |
the treatment of prisoners of war. Hofmann Document No. 125 will become Exhibit 121. This is an affidavit of Wilhelm Stecher concerning treatment of prisoners of war. Hofmann Document No. 126 will become Exhibit 122. This is an affidavit of an American prisoner of war by the name of Wilhelm Gottlieb Stecher, which deal... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,103,850 | 1,104,350 |
positive work which was done by RuSHA. Document No. 133 will become Exhibit No. 128. This is an excerpt from Himmler's speech which was Prosecution Document 1918-PS on the solution of the Jewish question through emigration. Of the following documents, I have already offered for Court No. I, Case No. VIII. identificatio... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,104,300 | 1,104,800 |
20th of January 1942 on the final solution of the Jewish question. Document 136 (c) will become Exhibit No. 136. This is an affidavit by Erich Neumann concerning the conference of the 20th of January 1942 on the final solution of the Jewish question. Document 136 (d) will become Exhibit No. 137. This is an affidavit by... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,104,750 | 1,105,250 |
of calling witnesses and I want only to call three more for the purpose of cross examination: one of them by the name of Rembatsch could not be located, so that it is impossible to call him here for cross examination; the next witness is a man by the name of Brosch who at present is imprisoned in Vienna. The Russian au... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,105,200 | 1,105,700 |
I, Case No. VIII. brought back again. On account of the crowded condition at the witness house, the Tribunal has advised the authorities there that as soon as a witness has been used in this case he or she may be immediately released. All right. Whom will you call? DR.THIELE-FREDERSDORF: May it please the Tribunal, I n... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,105,650 | 1,106,150 |
all in the vicinity of Salzburg? AFirst of all they were put into a camp within the city limits of Salzburg. QWhat was the camp's name? AThe camp was generally known as the ethnic German camp in Balch. QSubsequently, did you, yourself, inspect the camp in order to take a look at the children and in order to select one ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,106,100 | 1,106,600 |
at all. QYou spoke about a very small circle of children where you made very detailed inquiries. In the discussion with the other children did you hear about anything which could lead you to conclude that these children had been taken away from their parents or members of their family? AIt was clear to me by observing ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,106,550 | 1,107,050 |
as a result of a letter which I received in the fall of 1944. QOn what occasion did you refer to the Lebensborn? AAt the time I needed a ration card for the child in order to buy her a winter overcoat; on that occasion I heard through the Higher Police Leader that this matter, if I wanted to adopt the child, would have... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,107,000 | 1,107,500 |
I decided not to accept any more. QWhy didn't you want to receive any more? ABecause I knew that my wife and I seriously intended to adopt the child. QLater on, did you adopt your foster child? AWith the approval of the American Military Government at Salzburg and with the agreement of the Polish authorities as the res... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,107,450 | 1,107,950 |
whether those children were of German origin? A.No, they didn't make any examination to that effect at all. Q.Did these children leave voluntarily? A.No, I don't know that. To the contrary, I heard from the Youth Department of the Land office that this repatriation was carried out without any consultation of the author... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,107,900 | 1,108,400 |
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