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three big entrances which were open day and night. Besides that, the fences were so low, about that high (indicating) that they could jump over them any time they pleased. QIn what sort of houses were these children housed and how? AThey had three big dormitories for sleeping, with floors which were inlaid on the one h... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 973,350 | 973,850 |
in which somebody could be located in; besides, in the dormitories of the children, there were no night table lamps. All the dormitories had a huge chandelier in the miffle. You would have to climb up there. QAnd how do you comment upon his further statement to the effect that he was frequently beaten with a stick in h... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 973,800 | 974,300 |
that conditions were good and treatment was good in the concentration camp? AYes, I was treated quite well because I was Jehova's witness and because as a prisoner I had a position of confidence outside of the camp. That was the case with many of Jehova's witnesses that were there, for the Nazis knew that we, because o... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 974,250 | 974,750 |
KARLKAESTLE, a witness, took the stand and testified as follows: BY THE PRESIDENT:The witness will raise his right hand and repeat after me: I swear by God, the Almighty and Omniscient, that I will speak the pure truth and will withhold and add nothing. (The witness repeated the oath.) proceed with the examination. DIR... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 974,700 | 975,200 |
you. A.Yes, that is correct. Q.At the time when this child was given to you from the school in Achern, were you asked in any way what your political opinion was at the time? A.No. Q.Did your fried Steidel know that you were not a member of the NSDAP or the SS? A.No. Q.Did the child like the idea of coming to you? A.Yes... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 975,150 | 975,650 |
what did you do with this money? A.I got this put into a savings account in the name of Hanni Duden. Q.This girl does not live with you any more, does she? A.No. Q.When did she leave you? A.In 1945, in September. Q.And how come she left? A.There was a Polish camp leader who came with a Frenchman, and the girl was trans... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 975,600 | 976,100 |
own opinion that you thought she was an ethnic German, I would like to know now what nationality did you think the child was? A.I thought the child was German. Q.And you thought that she was German when she spoke German very brokenly, but spoke Polish at the time; is that correct? A.Yes, after a few months she spoke Ge... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 976,050 | 976,550 |
time? A.Well, I don't know exactly any more; well, I went to deposit that money maybe every two months or sometimes three months. Q.And the man Steidtel, who you took this child from, was he a member of the Nazi Party? A.I really don't know that. Q.You have stated you are not a member of -- never been a member of the p... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 976,500 | 977,000 |
have two. Q.What were the ages of your two children at the time you got this girl? A.The little one was four years old, and the other one was 15 years old. Q.Is your wife living? A.Yes, she is alive. Q.Was she living at home with you at that time? A.Yes, she was there. Q.Now, from whom did you say you obtained custody ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 976,950 | 977,450 |
the rule of the Tribunal; that will have to be complied with hereafter. DR. FROESCHMANN:Mr. President, on Monday morning I informed the Secretary General that I would call witnesses, and I stated in what sequence I would call them. THE PRESIDENT:Well, the only thing the Tribunal will announce is that the rule is explic... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 977,400 | 977,900 |
is correct. Q.Did you also happen to gain an insight into the question of whether Hildebrandt was in charge of the General Police and the Security Police? A.The General Police and the Security Police were not subordinated to Hildebrandt. These two agencies received their orders from their superior main offices in Berli... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 977,850 | 978,350 |
case the adjutant-- that Herr Hildebrandt talked to the prisoners themselves and asked them various questions about their conditions. Herr Hildebrandt also brought back his own written notes, on the strength of which we would have to inform ourselves about the prisoner involved; we would have to find out from the Gesta... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 978,300 | 978,800 |
Bach about this matter, he very obviously stood apart from those relatives of his, they were not at all close relations, and he said that he hardly knew this man. That was quite an extraordinary occurrence, and that is why I can still remember it so clearly. Q.How, witness, you just told us that the confinement of a pe... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 978,750 | 979,250 |
is impossible that I repeat the old things over and over again. Q.Witness, up to now we were talking about the personality of Hildebrandt in his position as Higher SS and Police Leader. I would now like to ask you concerning his position as representative of the Reich Commissioner, How was the agency of Hildebrandt as ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 979,200 | 979,700 |
to the treaty that it had signed to the effect that it would use Danzig as a commercial port; but rather before the fishing village of Gdingia it constructed an artificial port going into the sea. This was a competition port of Danzig, and more and more reduced the economic life in Danzig, and the port itself became mo... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 979,650 | 980,150 |
List, Group III, that is to say, their German nationality was revocable, and only after they had proved their value to Germany, did they receive the German nationality in a final manner. THE PRESIDENT:The Tribunal will recess until 11 o'clock. (A recess was taken.) THE MARSHAL:The Tribunal is again in session. THE PRES... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 980,100 | 980,600 |
life was threatened at Danzig Herr Hildebrandt, from his agency in Berlin, saw to it that particularly the wives and mothers of many children and also myself, in spite of that fact that I didn't work any longer for the SS or the police, were evacuated from Danzig and housed in the Reich. We, Danzig people., therefore, ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 980,550 | 981,050 |
non-SS members supervising SS members or were the SS members in the position of authority and supervising the non-SS members? AWell, that wasn't a military organization. Therefore, it was rather working on the same level with the different experts. QOn the whole, witness, were the people in the position of authority th... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 981,000 | 981,500 |
DR. FROESCHMANN: DIRECT EXAMINATION QMay I start, your Honor. Witness, will you please state your personal data? AMy name is Franz Vietz and I was born on February 19, 1908 at Eppsdorf, Province of Hannover. In my home town --- QWell, we don't need that, witness, thank you. For how long and in what capacity was Hildebr... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 981,450 | 981,950 |
the RKFDV as the EWZ and UWZ remained organizations of the RSHA and therefore was subordinated also to the responsible departments of RSHA and the same applied for the Gau agency of the VOMI. Q.Witness, a while ago you told us that you came to Danzig in October, 1939 together with Hildebrandt. Now, what were the condit... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 981,900 | 982,400 |
first days, very strong persecutions against the Germans started and for our area they reached their culminating point in what was known as the 3rd of September, the Bromberg Bloody Sunday. During this occasion, in that town alone and in the surroundings, the Germans had very great losses. As a reaction thereupon the g... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 982,350 | 982,850 |
else to determine once and for all in how far these people could either conditionally or unconditionally be considered Germans, or in how far that question was to be answered in the negative at all. Q.What solution, or should I rather say what problem, no, rather, what solution wasthe one Himmler decided? A.His decisio... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 982,800 | 983,300 |
and the permanent care and welfare for them was the main task of the representative for the Gau. Q.Witness, in this connection I would like to ask you a question. Do you know the name of a Catholic priest von dem BachZelewski, in one way or the other during your activities? A.I have heard about a family Zelewski under ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 983,250 | 983,750 |
made efforts end succeeded too, to understand and to take into consideration the features of human life. Through his activities as intermediary he advocated and attempted to carry through a plan, according to which also the Polish population of the Reichgau Danzig-Western Prussia should not be forced to wear a special ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 983,700 | 984,200 |
not. The selection within the framework of that estate file index was done with cooperation of the local agencies, for instance, the District Councillor's office, and most particularly of the District Peasant Association, that is, the organs of the Reich Food Ministry, After the resettlers had been placed they still re... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 984,150 | 984,650 |
their participation. The racial examinations in compliance with that regulation were only carried out in those few cases, where the possibility of revoking nationality by the state was to be waived and where the first cases had to be sent to Berlin for a decision there. Only there racial examinations were carried out. ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 984,600 | 985,100 |
can be seen from this file note in connection with the existing mixed marriages, in other words between Germans and Poles as we would consider, were not carried into practice. Mention is made here of having the corresponding decrees issued at a later date, and I never saw these decrees. In other words, I have to assume... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 985,050 | 985,550 |
people. Mostly these jobs were agricultural. The employers had to prove that there was sifficient guarantee to give the resettler sufficient housing facilities and general facilities. For the rest the families enjoyed the same treatment as any other Germans living in the country. The only restriction was that for the t... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 985,500 | 986,000 |
Danzig, Western Prussia? AOn the basis of statements of the Gauleiter of Danzig, who had declared in public that within ten years he wanted to have the Gau completely German by the means of this ethnic policy, one might speak of a Germanization policy in that sense. QDo you know that on account of that statement of For... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 985,950 | 986,450 |
existing regulations. I determined that they were youngsters of 17 or 18 years, and it was possible for me to sec the women involved. There I determined that if one spoke of responsibility or guilt, then the guilt certainly was on the side of the three women, and I expressed that opinion in my report on the matter. Lat... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 986,400 | 986,900 |
be ordered by the Central Land Office in Berlin, And if I remember correctly, at least for a certain period, Himmler had reserved the right for himself to make those decisions. As far as certain enterprises managed by concentration camps were concerned, Hildebrandt had no connection with those matters and therefore, ev... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 986,850 | 987,350 |
AFor a short period, yes. The directives and orders discussed here had already been issued, perhaps with the exception of the decree concerning the interruption of pregnancies. But then Herr Hildebrandt, very shortly after his appintment, was detached to an army group by order of Himmler. However, I know that he made a... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 987,300 | 987,800 |
Sturmbann E, insane people had been done away with. On that occasion I heard that he had the intention of either dissolving this special Sturmbann or creating clear-cut conditions concerning the channel of command. This unit was not under Hildebrandt's command; it was formed in Danzig, before the outbreak of the war, a... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 987,750 | 988,250 |
just said here? JUDGEO'CONNELL: May I ask, to which part of the affidavit do you direct attention? DR. FROESCHMANN:Your Honor, I am referring to the end of the affidavit, the last six lines. JUDGEO'CONNELL: Thank you. DR. FROESCHMANN:No.NO-5126, No. 6. JUDGEO'CONNELL: Would you just pause long enough for me to locate i... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 988,200 | 988,700 |
with having had the plan to form there more or less a private unit for his own main sector. Himmler on the strength of some reports or denunciations must have had a completely wrong picture of these conditions, and on the strength of this wrong information he charged Hildebrandt with maintaining a sort of a private bat... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 988,650 | 989,150 |
to come to the impression or conclusion as if you were rather reserved in your statements today as soon as we started to speak about Polish conditions. Do you feel restrained somehow by some special condition or do you feel restricted in your statement? A.Yes, I feel especially demoralized because two days ago it came ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 989,100 | 989,600 |
to Poland because they made true statements before this Tribunal. THE PRESIDENT:Well, Counsel can be assured that this Tribunal is interested in nothing except the discovery of the truth insofar as these charges are concerned, but Counsel must know that this Tribunal cannot control the Polish authorities. Any further q... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 989,550 | 990,050 |
statement I have just made concerning the details, of instruction the commissions came from the racial office in the Race and Settlement Main Office. Q.Is it correct that the defendant Hofmann himself did not point out any Poles for racial examinations? A.Yes, that is correct. Q.Now, I am quoting the last sentence of N... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 990,000 | 990,500 |
between Germans and Poles, which were reported to you for the purpose of examination of the Polish pact? A.No, no agency over reported a case to me. Q.Is it then correct that the regulations concerning illicit sexual intercourse did not apply to cases of illegitimate marriages? A.No, they could not be carried into prac... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 990,450 | 990,950 |
racial examinations. However, you stated that except for a few cases of racial examinations, most of those orders were not carried out in Danzig, West Prussia; isn't that what you said? I mean is that correct -- is my statement of what you said correct? A.Excuse me. There was only one fundamental order concerning the m... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 990,900 | 991,400 |
you ever hear of such cases in other areas in Germany? A.No, and I didn't work in other areas either. Q.Witness, will you please look at your affidavit, Document No. No-3242. If the Tribunal please, I just had that brought down. I do not have a translation of this available at this moment. (Witness is offered the docum... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 991,350 | 991,850 |
from conversations on the occasion of meetings with other comrades of mine. Q.Witness will you please look at Document No.NO-5126. THE PRESIDENT:You have time for one more question. MR. SHILLER:May I beg the indulgence of the Court for approximately two or three questions concerning this affidavit which has been in con... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 991,800 | 992,300 |
there had been a few hundred Jews. If I understood you correctly in the course of direct examination then you spoke about these 200 Jews only with reference to Danzig proper? AYes, that is correct. QAnd now I am coming to your affidavit submitted by the Prosecution dated 8 May 1947 and in paragraph 5 which was shown to... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 992,250 | 992,750 |
Haessler to the stand with your permission. THE PRESIDENT:Let the witness come to the stand. RUDOLFHAESSLER, a witness, took the stand and testified as follows: BY THE PRESIDENT: QThe witness will raise his right hand and repeat after me. I swear by God the Almighty and Omniscient, that I will speak the pure truth and ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 992,700 | 993,200 |
your memory and I would please ask you to read this through again. AYes, this is the identical order. QOn what level of subordination was the Reich Health Leader? Was this a Reich authority or an agency of the Party? AAs far as I know this decree was issued by the Reich Health Leader in his capacity as member of the Re... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 993,150 | 993,650 |
have an abortion performed, in my opinion it was not yet cause enough that the Reich Security Main Office or other agencies would accede to this desire. What then caused the competent authorities to issue decrees of that nature? A.I would like to give several reasons for this. In the first place as I have already menti... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 993,600 | 994,100 |
connection that the application was sustained. Q.Witness, however, it reads there the competent authority may, on their own initiative, order an abortion to take place. That of course could mean that this agency could order the abortion without the agreement of the pregnant woman. How do you explain this very expressio... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 994,050 | 994,550 |
have a clear picture of the actual significance of this term. From my own experience I can tell you that even functionaries of the Gestapo who in their official capacity did not have anything to do with this department, in many cases were not clear, themselves in their own minds about this expression. Summarizing, I wo... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 994,500 | 995,000 |
that meetings were held between the various Reich agencies. Q.And what WEB the results of these discussions end meetings? A.Well, they did not lead to a decree, but as far as I know, the immediate result was a new reporting to the Reichsfuehrer-SS. Q.I am showing you exhibit 495 from document book 10, number NO-2447. a... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 994,950 | 995,450 |
the approval of the mother. Q.- Do you know anything about the creation of homes for alien children? A.- Yes, I myself have visited once such a home for alien children. Q.- What was the purpose of these homes? A.- The purpose was to house there the children of alien female workers who were not racially desirable; that ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 995,400 | 995,900 |
of taking care of needy people and the carrying out of welfare tasks. Q.- Yes, quite right. Let us now return to my question one. These children who were given over to the NSV, was this identical with a taking away of children or was it also in these cases required to have the approval of the mothers? A.- The transfer ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 995,850 | 996,350 |
you probably still have before you, concerning the treatment of children of alien female workers, the Lebensborn is also mentioned. Can you please tell me why this Lebensborn was mentioned at all in this decree? A.- As far as I know it was mentioned here only because this was an institution in which the Reichsfuehrer-S... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 996,300 | 996,800 |
the head of the Department IV_D for foreign workers? AThat was the technical term Bearbeitungsgebiet "Sphere of Work" and not "Department". At the time of my assignment there, it was Regierungsrat Baatz, whose activities I took over in the late summer of 1943. I would like to emphasize here that directives and regulati... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 996,750 | 997,250 |
gain knowledge of ce tain measures, but I believe that expression "special treatment" was not immediately recognizable as an eulogism for hanging and executions. QWitness, in connection with the subject of abortions, you stated 15 Jan 1948_A_24_4_Fox (Reischer) that there was no intention to force the Eastern workers t... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 997,200 | 997,700 |
it? AWill you please repeat your question? QWas the term "special treatment", within the Reich Security Main Office well known in various departments or various groups; isn't that so? AYes. QThis term "special treatment", did that go to the outer world in many cases? AAs far as I remember, no. QWas it possible for an o... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 997,650 | 998,150 |
the court. THE PRESIDENT:Mr. Marshal, have you ascertained that all defendants are present in court? THE MARSHAL:May it please Your Honors, all defendants are present save the defendants Tesch, absent-excus ed. THE PRESIDENT:What witness will you call next? DR.FROESCHMANN (Counsel for the defendant Hildebrandt): If You... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 998,100 | 998,600 |
August 1931. First of all, I was a political leader, a Kreisleiter, at Hamburg-Harburg. At first that was an honorary position, and then, from 1934, it was a professional one. There I brought to life, particularly, a new settlement at the outskirts of the town, where I dealt with questions such as the establishment of ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 998,550 | 999,050 |
of the 33rd Standarte at Mainz, which was a part of the main sector at Wiesbaden, where Herr Hildebrandt was in charge. There we became closely acquainted and at that time I learned to esteem and honor Herr Hildebrandt to an extraordinary degree. I was again subordinated to Herr Hildebrandt when I was on active service... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 999,000 | 999,500 |
that he wanted him to either take a very radical turn in his policy, or else to resign. The aims which Hildebrandt pursued were, in broad outlines, about as follows: With a limitation in the powers of the Fuehrer, the immediate introduction of a legislative body on the basis, for example, of the professions; the recall... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 999,450 | 999,950 |
Leader, but as I told you already, as from January 1942 until 1944, I had been transferred to the Staff of the Higher SS and Police Leader northeast at Koenigsberg, and there I had to deputize for this Higher SS and Police Leader in many fields. That is how I gained also an insight in the activities of the Higher SS an... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 999,900 | 1,000,400 |
that -- of that government agency. It was even made more difficult by the fact that the main offices in Berlin and that also the Reichsfuehrer himself did not always agree with each other as it would happen, and the man who always got it in the neck was the Higher SS and Police Leader. Do you want any other explanation... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,000,350 | 1,000,850 |
glass wall between us, and you have to know that Danzig at the time was a secluded island where, of course, the organs, the human geings serving the Party and the State were all close together and where it was very difficult for us newcomers to establish ourselves and to find out ways into society. The final result, fu... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,000,800 | 1,001,300 |
he remembered that Polish name only afterwards -- I mean now. As to a parent of his, that is a Bach-Zelewski, was supposed to have been committed to a concentration camp -- that is what you're telling me? Dr. Froeschmann, at the time -- very often it was daily, mostly it was several times a week -- I met Hildebrandt, s... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,001,250 | 1,001,750 |
security Police and sabotaged these "P" for poles as an indignity, and he saw to it that after a very short period it was abolished. At least, according to my recollection, as from the srping or summer of 1940, I didn't see anyone in Danzig, west Prussia., running around with a "P". I know, furthermore, that in his gov... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,001,700 | 1,002,200 |
in Western Prussia? A.- The DVL was Forster's measure and Hildebrandt rejected it in a decisive manner. But fundamentally speaking, he had no contacts with that enterprise, and therefore he had no possibility to intervene either. Q.- Do you know, witness, that Hildebrandt opposed any compulsory Germanization? A.- Yes, ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,002,150 | 1,002,650 |
Guard was an association of all Germans capable of bearing arms. They believed that during the outbreak or shortly before the outbreak of the Polish War that such a Home Guard was justified and its purpose was to see to it that in the case of a catastrophe or in the case of a revolt or in the case of a Polish resistanc... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,002,600 | 1,003,100 |
of this detachment had gone to him from Himmler directly. Perhaps it was disagreeable to him too that Hildebrandt heard about the matter at all. On the other hand it is true, I have to say that Eimann also in his interior opposed such a measure very strongly and that I think he was even grateful that somebody came alon... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,003,050 | 1,003,550 |
transfer the Sturmbann into the Waffen SS or whether it was to be dissolved or transferred into the General SS, that might be possible, because I again wanted to reestablish the General SS in Danzig, through the volunteer formations of the home guard at Danzig and so on. However, that had become completely Impossible b... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,003,500 | 1,004,000 |
like to show this document to him for identification because I shall offer it anyway later on. THE PRESIDENT:Very well. MR. SHILLER:I should merely like to state to the Tribunal that the prosecution has endeavored at all times to give to the defense whatever documentary material they have asked for that we have had in ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,003,950 | 1,004,450 |
and it also contains a paragraph about the policy which Himmler carried out towards the Jews. Can you recall the meeting at all? A.Yes, yes, I can recall it. Q.Who was present at the time? A.A large number of the Gruppenfuehrer and Obergruppenfuehrer of the SS were present, let us say in my estimation approximately hal... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,004,400 | 1,004,900 |
coup d'etat. Isn't that correct? A.No, I placed special stress on the fact that Hildebrandt did not want any putsch or revolts but he wanted to convince Himmler that he did not possess the confidence of his SS leaders any more, and he either wanted him to radically change his policy and the policy of the Fuehrer, that ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,004,850 | 1,005,350 |
Prussia, where did the higher SS and police leader stand? A.Do you want me to make a comparison there just in what order of rank the higher SS and police leader will be located? Q.That is right, witness. A.That is very difficult for me to say. We did not have an order of rank there at all. Everybody in his particular f... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,005,300 | 1,005,800 |
that take place? A.These are two questions which I have to answer: Who was the superior of Eimann and when did the trip take place. Did I understand you correctly? THE PRESIDENT:That is what he said: that is what he said. A.This superior of Eimann was in my opinion the Reichstatthalter, and under him the inspector of t... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,005,750 | 1,006,250 |
Q.That is what I understood you to say. A.Yes, that is perfectly correct. That is what Hildebrandt was trying to achieve. Q.And that was at the same time as the other conversation? A.Toward the end of 1943. Q.Could Himmler have resigned in 1943? A.That escapes my knowledge; I cannot give any judgment about that. After ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,006,200 | 1,006,700 |
Berger. Q.What was your last rank and position in the SS? A.From the 1st of January, 1940, until the end of the war I was a chief of the SS Main Office; I was SS Obergruppenfuehrer and a Lieutenant General in the Waffen SS. Q.At the beginning of September, 1939, were you ordered to attend an important official conferen... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,006,650 | 1,007,150 |
to carry out the organizational preparations. I had to furnish the necessary officers in collaboration with the chiefs of the personnel office, and to send these officers into these areas. Q.To whom were these Home Guard units subordinated? A.The units in the south and the units in the center were subordinated to the S... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,007,100 | 1,007,600 |
Warthebrueggen and then to Hohensalza, in the direction of Bromberg. For approximately 50 kilometers I went along the road which, later on, was known as the Death Road to Lowicz. On this road -that is to say, in the ditches alongside the road -- I could still see the corpses of at least 400 German men and women who had... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,007,550 | 1,008,050 |
QWitness, you didn't understand me correctly. What I mean is, was the excitement amongst the population at Bromberg and vicinity very great as a result of these atrocities? AYes, that is only natural. After all, it can still be ascertained today that there were no German communities where several estates had not been b... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,008,000 | 1,008,500 |
that of the Army Corps Areas. QWill you please tell the Tribunal what an Army Corps Area was? ABy Army Corps Area we understood the area under a commanding general. Thiswas an institution for peacetime, and this included the area of two or three infantry divisions. Altogether we had 17 general commands, for example- QT... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,008,450 | 1,008,950 |
QGeneral Berger, just speak the way you want to speak. ADuring the first year of the war the General SS ceased to exsit. It was called into the armed forces, and there went into combat. The disputes thereupon were settled, for the General SS, the Special Task Units, the Death Head Units, were incorporated into only one... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,008,900 | 1,009,400 |
famous armored Corps Leader, and Peiper. All these were people who had crosses with oak leaves, and so on. They had been wounded seven or eight times. They even submitted their ideas to Adolf Hitler directly. Essentially speaking, there was just a small incident--a wrong report, in the case of the partisan enterprise C... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,009,350 | 1,009,850 |
AI can't remember what you mean, Doctor. QWell, wasn't the security of the circle of the participants disturbed by the fact that the personnel of the hotel had also the possibility of listening? AYes, that is correct. It was alleged that I was disturbing the security in the beginning by the fact that I had brought alon... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,009,800 | 1,010,300 |
from an ear witness whether in how far the wording of this document is in agreement with what Himmler actually said at that time -- I mean, in a general way. AAs I have said already, this speech was endless, and for a normal human being it's quite out of the question that he can say, "This and that and that and that wa... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,010,250 | 1,010,750 |
is one matter probably which you aim at and on which it is pointed out again and again in this speech, and that is on page 65 of the original, "Evacuation of Jews." May I read this sentence to you? "I am now referring to the Jews to be evacuated for the extermination of the Jewish people." Just on account of these matt... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,010,700 | 1,011,200 |
learned how to speak to the people, and he would never have spoken such a sentence, because after all he went to high school." I mean here, the evacuation of the Jews, the extermination of the Jewish people." That is quite impossible. QWhy? ABecause it doesn't make sense; because the Reichsfuehrer always finished his s... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,011,150 | 1,011,650 |
this extermination and Bach-Zelewski? First of all, is there a relation? AYes, there is. I hope that I can bring the witness for my trial-the witness who experienced that matter. QAnd you know that personally too? Do you know anything personally about that? ATwo German police battalions received the order to execute 12... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,011,600 | 1,012,100 |
and Adolf Hitler at that time ordered an investigation through the armed forces. I forgot something a while ago when I gave the figures of our own 27 losses, 300 or 400 guns captured and 4 to 5 thousand enemy killed. Fantastic! The investigation was made, and the following was found out: First of all, our own casualtie... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,012,050 | 1,012,550 |
various languages and can be misunderstood. AHiring is wrong, but drafting is right. Responsible were the authorities of the countries concerned. QWhat about the welfare for the dependents for the people drafted? AThat was my business. In agreement with VOMI and with the district agencies. QWas the VOMI in any way resp... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,012,500 | 1,013,000 |
great extent depend on their moods. If he had one of his bad days and you would go to trapport to him then it was quite out of the question to discuss an order given by him or a decree issued or even to answer a suggestion in the negative. In that case, if one rejected the susgestion, he would just have given the order... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,012,950 | 1,013,450 |
would just asknowledge the fact. QThank you, no further questions. THE PRESIDENT:Procedd with the cross-examination. CROSS EXAMINATION BY MR. SHIL*ER: QWitness, will you please try to answer my questions as briefly as possible. AYes, I will QWitness, you were quite a prominent man in the SS, were you not? AI have to la... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,013,400 | 1,013,900 |
the SS? AYes. QWitness, when Bach-Zelewski as you say, gave this order that tnese men be shot by the Police Battalion, in what capacity did he give this order? AAt the time he must have been only Higher SS and Police Leader in central Russia. QAs Higher SS and Police Leader when he ordered these police battalions to sh... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,013,850 | 1,014,350 |
There are difficulties there, if I might express it that way, or misunderstandings at least, and they are caused by the fact that there were two kinds of higher SS and Police Leaders. First of all there were such SS and Police Leaders in the area of the German Reich proper and Higher SS and Police Leaders in the occupi... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,014,300 | 1,014,800 |
I knew very well. They were arrested and they were now about to be hanged by the neck. So I approached the Higher SS and Police Leader Hofmann. QYou mean the defendant Hofmann? AYes, the man sitting over there; our Hofmann, and to my greatest surprise I had to find out that the Higher SS and Police Leader had no idea w... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,014,750 | 1,015,250 |
position of the higher SS and police leader in central Russia or of the supreme SS and police leader in the south in his channels of command be compared with the position of the higher SS and police leader Danzig-Western Prussia as an incorporated area? ANo, no, that was general knowledge. QThank you, that will do. You... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,015,200 | 1,015,700 |
say, "My Fuehrer, I am going to do that." So one day we got the order and we got five hundred photographs which were handed to his Haupsturmfuehrer, to his Captain Koenig who was not very happy about it and this copy had to be submitted seven or eight times and at the end Himmler called Captain Koenig for two weeks to ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,015,650 | 1,016,150 |
road, you are talking about a time and a place when the territory was occupied by the German authorities AYes, certainly, your Honor. QDo you know anything about, along in the year 1943, when it was generally true among the SS men that Himmler had lost their respect completely? AYour Honor, if I understand your questio... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,016,100 | 1,016,600 |
the Waffen SS also told me. 12,000 human beings were involved. Part of them were Jews but also other people, men and unfortunately also women. QThey were civilian people as I understand? AYes, your Honor civilians. QAnd were not killed in battle or as a result of a battle? ANo, your Honor, not at all. They had already ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,016,550 | 1,017,050 |
on his own behalf. THE PRESIDENT:Let the witness come to the stand. RICHARDHILDEBRANDT, a witness, took the stand and testified as follows: THE PRESIDENT:The witness will raise his right hand and repeat after me: I swear by God, the Almighty and Omniscient, that I will speak the pure truth and will withhold and add not... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,017,000 | 1,017,500 |
Germany, especially after the inflation, became extremely difficult and complicated. The economic situation also deteriorated. I had very close relatives in the United States of America. There was a brother of my mother's, who was a farmer in Ohio; besides that, my fiancee at the time was visiting her aunt in New York,... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,017,450 | 1,017,950 |
of all examine you with regard to your activities in Danzig West Prussia. You are charged at that time with Counts 11 to 18 of the Indictment and 20 to 22, and then I shall name the other activities which you carried out at the time. In the first part of the examination, please refer only to your work in Danzig, West P... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 1,017,900 | 1,018,400 |
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