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in Dachau and that Rascher had demonstrated some experiments during that visit and had shown him what freezing to death looked like in human beings. Q.In other words, it had been demonstrated to this army officer at Dachau, how people died from cold? A.That was the impression that I had; yes. Q.Do you remember the name... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 90,000 | 90,500 |
you aware of Professor Weltz's general attitude in respect to his profession: his spirit of humanitarianism? the consideration which he generally showed his patients? can you briefly deal with that. In other words, his general human ideas. Did you have any contact with him when you worked for Professor Weltz? A.Yes, ce... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 90,450 | 90,950 |
question is connected with this problem. Are you aware whether Kottenhof had anything to do with Rascher being attached to the Institute in any way? A.That is quite possible. Q.You do not know any details about that, do you? A.Perhaps, if you ask me about them. Q.Do you know whether Doctor Kottenhof, later or earlier, ... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 90,900 | 91,400 |
criminals should volunteer and that a certain amount of grace should be granted in compensation. A.That was the tacit condition for our discussion. We were quite surprised afterwards that at least in the later stages of the experiments, as far as I know now, this question did not come up. Q.Did Professor Weltz tell you... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 91,350 | 91,850 |
that these gentlemen, Ruff and Romberg based their work on the supposition that experiments which were to be carried out were first of all to be carried out on their own persons so that the danger, as such, was excluded by that means? Didn't you hear about that? Didn't Professor Weltz report that to you? A.Please, it i... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 91,800 | 92,300 |
is at all probative. DR. WILLE:May I define my attitude in regard to that? I think, Your honors, that we are here concerned with a very serious statement of fact which only this witness can ascertain He alone must know whether under such circumstances as I have previously described, the question could have been taken s... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 92,250 | 92,750 |
appointment, his being attached, shall we say? Do you know that Rascher, in the spring of 1942, at any rate before the 16th of March 1942, showed Weltz a telegram from Himmler, according to which experiments were to be kept secret from everybody, including Holtz? Did you have knowledge of that telegram? A.There must ha... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 92,700 | 93,200 |
that case it must be 1941. AYes. QHow did it happen that you met the defendant, Dr. Ruff ? Did you meet him often ? Did you make his acquaintance very well or just professionally ? AI should like to say professionally and officially and we spoke to each other occasionally outside of business. QDoctor, is it true to say... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 93,150 | 93,650 |
with the pilots, doctors were in the chamber with the pilot during the tests. QQuite. Now, these experiments which Dr. Ruff made on himself were perfectly in order and orderly and these tests on the pilots, they were supposed to be pretty tough ? AYes, certainly. QFor instance, it is supposed to have happened that duri... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 93,600 | 94,100 |
told you that the medical inspectorate had frequently been by-passed; that for instance Field Marshall Milch had negotiated directly with the SS, or the command of the SS, with reference to questions which really concerned aviation matters ? A yes. QDo you recollect that ? AYes, I do. QThen, he complained. Then Dr. Bec... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 94,050 | 94,550 |
and stutters, then you say that he isn't very effective surely or that he might even make himself ridiculous ? AYes, yes. QYes, I see. So that you want to say, don't you, that Dr. Rascher's statement could have been regarded more as a matter of wanting to make himself look important ? AThat might be, but the subject is... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 94,500 | 95,000 |
AI believe that the experiments were important. QBut you do not adopt the view that they were absolutely essential, I take it ? AWell, I can't -- that is a question that goes beyond my competence here . QWhen did you see Remberg for the first time ? AAs far as I can recall, together with Ruff when we were in France. QW... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 94,950 | 95,450 |
Continued) BY DR. VORWERK: QIf you held the view then that Rascher was a charlatan, would it not have been your duty or Weltz's duty to draw Romberg's attention to that fact before he began his experiments ? AThat is hard to say. QDid you ever state to Romberg at any time that you too had been asked to carry out these ... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 95,400 | 95,900 |
is, of anyone who knew anything about it. QRascher too ? ARascher was doubtless the evil spirit in this matter. I don't knew what he thought. QBut you are firmly convinced that Romberg shared that view, are you ? AYes. QWas the view also attached to that opinion at the time, connected with it, that the experimental per... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 95,850 | 96,350 |
he attended that meeting? A.No, I don't think he did. It is not known to me. Q.Well, Karl Genzken? A.I don't know him. Q.Karl Gebhard? A.I don't know him either. Q.Kurt Glome? A.I don't know him. Q.Rudolf Brandt? A.He is unknown to me. Q.Joachim Mrugowski? A.I don't know him. Q.Helmut Poppendick? A.I don't know him eit... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 96,300 | 96,800 |
the defendant Romberg asked this witness to identify him in the defendant's deck. I want the record to show that he did properly identify Romberg, Of course, that does not now appear in the record. He just said "He is the fourth man from the left", and that doesn't show any proper identification. He is, in fact, the fo... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 96,750 | 97,250 |
to Weltz's Institute. If Rascher was attached to Weltz's Institute, then Holtz could have had him transferred to some other place, could he not ? AIf Rascher was subordinate to Weltz then of course, certainly, Weltz had the possibility of having Rascher transferred if the superior office -which was superior to Weltz--w... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 97,200 | 97,700 |
difficult to experiment upon a dog which looks at you and which seems to have some kind of a soul: it is even difficult to do that with a dog. QThat is what I understood you to mean. And Weltz know that was your attitude, didn't he? AHe knew that Wendt and I rejected this procedure. QAnd after you rejected it he went t... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 97,650 | 98,150 |
assumed that it was in tho subsequent death of persons which were rescued from tho sea. Q.But after Rascher spoke, it was clear to you and to the rest cf tho persons at the meeging that the experiments had not, in fact, been conducted on people rescued from the sea but upon persons furnished by tho Reichsfuehrer SS, is... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 98,100 | 98,600 |
had to be expected, certainly, but I, naturally, an not acquainted with the milieu which was in tho concentration camp of Dachau at tho time. However, I know from my own experience that a camp has a system of its own, and it can affect you, and the barbed wire with which you are surrounded has a tendency to change huma... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 98,550 | 99,050 |
DR. BERNARD VORWERK: QDuring the experiments at Dachau, did you talk with Dr. Romberg? AYes, we talked occasionally. QDid Romberg tell you anything about the experimental subjects? ARomberg did not like to discuss that subject, and the same applied to me. I remember, or I had the impression that Romberg, even after the... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 99,000 | 99,500 |
hardship. This is the report on the meeting which your honors have heard discussed at some length this morning. On the bottom of the first page you will see that tho meeting was sponsored by the Inspector of Medical Service of the Luftwaffe, and that the chairman of the conference was Stabsarzt Professor Dr. A.J. Antho... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 99,450 | 99,950 |
thirst problems and problems of sea distress. The Tribunal will hear proof at a later stage in this trial that it was the defendant Schaeffer who participated in a conference in 1944, where it was agreed that experiments to test the photobility of sea water by this method and by a method of ether means would be carried... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 99,900 | 100,400 |
listed as one of the defendants subordinated to him as the Army Medical Inspectorate of the Mountain Medical School of the Army at St. Joachim, and I call the Tribunal's attention to the name Balke, Item No. 3 on this list, who was representative from this mountain Medical School under the jurisdiction of the defendant... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 100,350 | 100,850 |
1942. It says" the report of the meeting represents the summary of the results of the scientific investigations of medical measures in the case of distress at sea, and the winter hardships. The material in question is not a service regulation. The resulting practical deductions will be worked over and ordered by the co... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 100,800 | 101,300 |
small circle about medical experiences at the Sea Distress Service. The results of this conference are summed up in a report. The conclusion was, among others, that exact examinations of the phenomena at general freezings are necessary to enable us to diagnose and treat these cases properly. "During the winter campaign... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 101,250 | 101,750 |
showed that small animals could only resist freezing in water of below 10 degrees for a short time. If rats, for instance, the decline of whose rectal temperature was being recorded, swim about in water of 4 to 9 degrees, the possibility of an effective reflex regulation will already be exhausted after two to three min... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 101,700 | 102,200 |
occur along with the known decline in resistance of erythrocytes in the cold (Jarisch), and which the incipient hemolysis frequently observed, the potassium and calcium levels of the blood were determined. The potassium content had only risen a trifling amount. "As regards rewarming, we had the same experiences as Mr. ... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 102,150 | 102,650 |
my scientist to make the detailed clinical report which is contained in here on the basis of isolated rescues conducted at sea. I continue to read from the paper read by Dr. Holzloehner: "The rapidity of which numbness occurs is remarkable. It was determined that already 5 to 10 minutes after falling in, an advancing r... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 102,600 | 103,100 |
of more than 4 degrees may occur. If this subsequent drop in temperature passes below a rectal temperature of 28 degrees sudden death by heart failure can occur. "In the blood of severely frozen persons the number of red blood corpuscles is increased up to 20%. The increase in leukocytes is even greater; 25,000 to 27,0... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 103,050 | 103,550 |
however, is noteworthy. It can be presumed, that, with the fall of temperature continuing, the secretion of adrenalin will sometime come to a standstill. At the same time a rapid decrease of the blood sugar ought to take place, if the phenomena of oxidation would take their course without disturbances; apparently this ... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 103,500 | 104,000 |
is a sort of blood-letting into the periphery. Under those circumstances it seems illogical from the very beginning to administer analoptika to persons suffering from rigor which would increase the tonus of the vessels in the periphery. Jarisch has even found out that such analptika given in otherwise admissible doses ... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 103,950 | 104,450 |
out on living human beings and that this is in a clinical report given on people who had in fact evidently been subjected to freezing water. The report and clinical picture is considerably too detailed for such an explanation to be accepted, which, of course, is a matter of no importance, except in so far as it indicat... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 104,400 | 104,900 |
in documents which show request of a letter from Rascher stating that Sievers should do everything necessary in obtaining the four women, and that we have two telegrams in the record which sent forward the requests to Glucks that the four women be transferred from Ravensbruck to Dachau, and we now come back to the subj... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 104,850 | 105,350 |
so far always succeeded in carrying out the experiments ordered by the Reichsfuehrer SS. Recent developments show, however, that this situation is unbearable, and it appears more and more that the competent offices of the Luftwaffe do not like the experiments, the importance of which is at once obvious, to be carried o... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 105,300 | 105,800 |
SS Mountain Troops respectively, the responsible physicians of these units, to cooperate officially with the Research Station at the Medical Corps Training School of the Mountain Troops. Up to now only here and there SS physicians had come to St. Johann unofficially to profit by the experiences of the physicians of the... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 105,750 | 106,250 |
a certain degree. The most realistic adaptation would have to be carried out in igloos in ordinary troop clothing. "To be tried are: (a) diet rich in fat; (b) vitaminrich, meatless diet; (c) meat-fat diet of the inhabitants of the Arctic regions. "After the adaptability tests it would be important to investigate whethe... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 106,200 | 106,700 |
your visit to Finland you ask some appropriate Finn what the Finns would do to combat freezing." Initialed, Rudolf Brandt. I will recall to the Tribunal that on the two SS charts-that is to say, the charts showing the organization of the medical service of the SS-- the chart showing the organization prior to 31 August ... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 106,650 | 107,150 |
possible in his experimentation at Dachau. "Rascher suggested to the Reichsfuehrer-SS to adjust the heating pads both pockets of the great coats, then one pad between the trouser band and the waist-bandage, and during severe cold, to put one pad in each hollow of the knee of soldiers detailed for guard duties to keep t... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 107,100 | 107,600 |
on the season, because it seems quite clear that the wet freezing experiments could be carried out at almost any season of the year since the water temperature was obtained by the addition of ice. We come now to DocumentNO-237, to be Prosecution Exhibit 102. And this is a memorandum from Heckensteller, who was on the s... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 107,550 | 108,050 |
Yours, Sievers." Now of course the Tribunal will not be astonished when the defendant Sievers takes the stand and tells us that he had nothing to do with these things; that the Ahnenerbe was simply an adjunct of the Reich Post Office; that just mail was channeled through his office and he passed it along to the proper ... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 108,000 | 108,500 |
and so forth. "Grawitz: No. Not only for that. You have to turn to me in all medical matters; since after all; I am Reich physician SS and all medical affairs are subordinate to me. It is absolutely necessary that all medical matters destined for the Reichsfuehrer go through my office. "Rascher: I don't know, Gruppenfu... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 108,450 | 108,950 |
gladly accept it. Grawitz: Well, we shall wait then with the memorandum until you have a few hundred cases, then we shall continue. Of course, I would not like the Reichsfushrer-SS to believe that I want to impede you. But if something has not yet been proved to a great extent, we can not distribute anything to the tro... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 108,900 | 109,400 |
the SS Office to which he was officially attached. However, shown upon the chart drawn by us the Chief Dr. Grawitz, as Reich Physician SS, had authority over Poppendick in medical matters. And this memorandum places him at a meeting with Grawitz and Rascher in January 1943 and they fully explored the past experiences o... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 109,350 | 109,850 |
big break, they were condemned to death, given life if they survived the experiment. They take the position that that should happen. If that line has any truth at all, why is Dr. Hippke, as stated in this memorandum, upset by certain of Rascher's experiments, if these people were condemned to death, if treated in a goo... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 109,800 | 110,300 |
said that I would have to prove it first by one hundred experiments. Up to the present, I have carried out intense chilling experiments on thirty human beings by leaving them outdoors naked from 0900 to 1400 hours, thereby reducing their body temperature to 27 degrees Centigrade to 29 degrees Centigrade. After an inter... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 110,250 | 110,750 |
is most interesting. He have already put in the documents in which the four women were requested for the purpose of re-warming by animal warmth, and we now got this report on that subject. It is entitled: "Experiments for re-warming of intensely chilled human beings by animal warmth. "A. The purpose of the experiment: ... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 110,700 | 111,200 |
chilled individual much more intimately. Also in these cases, the return of complete consciousness was strikingly rapid. Only one experimental subject did not return to consciousness and the warming effect was only slight. This person died with symptoms suggesting cerebral hemorrhage, as was confirmed by subsequent aut... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 111,150 | 111,650 |
Finke and Dr. Rascher in coorperation with who SS, and are now finished. The result was reported upon by those who worked on them during a conference on medical problems arising from distress at sea and winter hardships on 26 and 27 October 1912 in Nurenberg. The detailed report on the conference is a present in state ... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 111,600 | 112,100 |
the execution of your experiments at Lublin or Auschwitz. "Kind greetings and Heil Hitler ! Your A. Himmler". This letter is in response to the warming-up report which I read into evidence under Prosecution Exhibit 105, and you will note that Himmler is expressing the same fear that we found in the defendant Sievers a ... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 112,050 | 112,550 |
sphere: it is a question of vanity on the part of individual scientists, every one of whom personally wants to bring out new research results, and very often it is only with great effort that they can be led to work unselfishly for the common good. None of them is without guilt in this respect; Rascher is not either. "... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 112,500 | 113,000 |
Inspectorate. I turn now to document 1615-PS, which will be Prosecution Exhibit 109. This is a letter written by the defendant Rudolf Brandt to Dr. Grawitz on 9 March 1943. "Dear Gruppenfuehrer: I wish to inform you very briefly, that Reich Fuehrer SS on February 26, 1943 authorized SS Captain Dr. Rascher to make warmi... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 112,950 | 113,450 |
medical officers' corps of the Luftwaffe. Besides, we have the necesary experience in treating medical problems connected with aviators. The SS cannot possibly be interested in these questions. "Rascher: But the Reichsfuehrer SS does not desire at all to have these tasks carried out for the benefit of the SS alone, he ... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 113,400 | 113,900 |
know how I am going to be taken over, but I have full confidence in my future with the SS where efficiency is what matters. "HIPPKE: But this is certainly the case with us too, think it over whether you go, I request you again to stay here". When I told Hippke during the further course of the conversation how the work ... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 113,850 | 114,350 |
like to present my results as unliely, that is their business. Also Gruppenfuehrer Dr. Grawitz doubted only the possibility of forced quick warning of frozen persons--though he could easily have had the opportunity to verify the correctness of my statement.! "The question of the saving of people frozen in the open air ... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 114,300 | 114,800 |
of the Sachenshausen Concentration Camp near Oranienburg which is just above Berlin. "Obersturmbannfuehrer "By order of the Reichsfuehrer SS, I have been conducting freezing experiments on human beings in the Dachau Concentration Camp for more than a year. Today I learned from an experimental subject that I was not the... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 114,750 | 115,250 |
the University Professor Dr. Trump in the Pathological Institute of Munich University, on the subject:'Is it possible to influence different media of crystallization by addition of organic compounds to such a degree, that the thus obtained changes can be utilized for diagnostic purposes?' From this originated the follo... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 115,200 | 115,700 |
and the Surgeon General (Generaleberstabsarzt) Prof. Dr. Hippke, I conducted "Experiments with Dr. med. habil. S. Ruff and Dr. Romberg of the German Experimental Institute for aviation (DVL) Berlin. The results of those experiments are described in a secret military document and in * we big experimental films,Second, B... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 115,650 | 116,150 |
the "Ahnenerbe" and in this capacity I have been conducting, my scientific research work until now; the 'Ahnenerbe' has always assisted me in every respect". (Signature) SIGMUND RASCHER. The next document is No.231, which will be Prosecution's Exhibit 116 and here was get a little further insight into the activities of... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 116,100 | 116,600 |
enter upon a university career, I would by all means have to complete the training of a university assistant first. He further said that all those SS-physicians who were qualified to enter upon a university career, had the duty to do so. Upon my reply that for that reason I was already in touch with Prof. PFANNENSTIEL,... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 116,550 | 117,050 |
that I would continue to work under the Reichsfuehrer SS, under the 'Ahnenerbe'. But, I cannot serve several masters at the same time. Of course, I am convened that SS Gruppenfuehrer Prof. Dr. GEBHART had the best of intentions. His assistants are enthusiastic about him. If I am compelled to ask Prof. Dr. GEBHART's adv... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 117,000 | 117,500 |
said that specialists like NEFF were looked for like pins in a hay stack, he did not have one but plenty of openings for farm managers, where he could place DEFF immediately. I certainly regret to let NEFF go, because I dm!t know, whether I will find again such an honest and active assistant for general tasks, but on t... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 117,450 | 117,950 |
ho had had with the Defendant Gebhardt. I come now to DocumentNO-267which will be Prosecution Exhibit 117. This is a letter from the Defendant Sievers to the Defendant Rudolf Brandt, dated May 22, 1943. THE PRESIDENT:The last exhibit I have marked is 116. Did I miss one? MR. McHANEY:The next exhibit will be Prosecution... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 117,900 | 118,400 |
that the path toward effecting this appointment, which is to be a 'secret appointment' ('Gehein habilitation') and therefore causes some difficulty, is smoothed. Kind regards and Heil Hitler! Yours, Sievers." And here we see the Defendant Blome entering the picture for the first time in our exhibits, at least. The Cour... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 118,350 | 118,850 |
to go to the front. But nevertheless: On the other hand, I believe that I need you more urgently than you are needed at the front. As a matter of fact I need you for the following: From the Reich research Council I got the order to carry out open-country freezing experiments, and I think they will take place on the Sud... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 118,800 | 119,300 |
DocumentNO-690- THE PRESIDENT:Just a moment, counsel. I notice that the date of the letter for Exhibit 119 on this copy, at least, is 21 October 1946. MR. McHANEY:You are right, Your Honor. One moment, please, I am sure that that is a mistake. Mr. Travis will you pass the Exhibit up to the Tribunal? This is the documen... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 119,250 | 119,750 |
is that correct? MR. McHANEY:Well, I wouldn't go so far as to say that he actually experimented with Rascher. The burden of my argument is that the defendant Blome secured an assignment by the Reichs Research Council for the deceased Rascher in order that he could continue his experiments under their auspices and with ... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 119,700 | 120,200 |
and I ask him to consider my other proposals on the subject. *o undertake such an attempt in Munich would serve no purpose, since, as you know, a similar attempt was already made with negative results. The director of the Institute for Aviation Medicine in Frankfurt, consented to take part in the presentation of the th... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 120,150 | 120,650 |
Reichsfuehrer SS therefore requests that the work be examined by competent members of your medical faculty and a decision be made whether the admission to the faculty can be carried out." This document shows us that the University of Strassburg was, in fact, an SS university, and we will see that, among others, the Def... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 120,600 | 121,100 |
request made by someone who was interested in picking up this particular research card and was pulled out, undoubtedly, by some German worker who was familiar with these files and who was retained after the end of the war. The card itself is a card which gives the research assignments under the Bearbeiter, who is Profe... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 121,050 | 121,550 |
the American Forces. This is listed in the Document Book as a translation of Document 2428-PS whi is a mistake because this is -- the original depostion was taken in English, and the Court will notice that they swore in an interpreter before inducting the questioning of Leo Maklowsky. We had hoped to be able to bring F... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 121,500 | 122,000 |
use of Castein water. Continuation would not pay. 5. Procurement of memoranda on the conference concerning the effects of cold in Nuernberg." The next entry on the same date is: 1. SS Unterscharfuehrer Hamann, Mr. Wolter of the Economic & Administrative Department concerning procurement of apparati for Dr. Rascher's re... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 121,950 | 122,450 |
result of this tug of war over his services. This, of course, did not, in fact, occur. On the next page the entry for the 12 March 1943: "SS Hauptsturmfuehrer Dr. Rascher: 1. Transfer from the Luftwaffe to Waffen-SS was approved today in accordance with verbal advice from Generaloberstabsarzt Professor Dr. Hippke. 2. R... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 122,400 | 122,900 |
scientific research work". Item (d) is "Space for execution of freezing experiments". And then we skip to an entry made on 14 January where we see the entry RFR which is an abbreviation for the Reich Research Council. The German word for Reich Research Council is Reichsforschungsrat. "RFR, among others, Engineer Becker... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 122,850 | 123,350 |
occurred in August 1943, after the date of this instrument, and it was only on the occassion of the reorganization that the Hygiene Institute of the Waffen-SS was transferred to the deceased, Dr. Grawitz. The memorandum reads as follows: "With reference to my letter of 9 June 1942, regarding vermin control a meeting to... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 123,300 | 123,800 |
no date nor signature. On the photostatic copy in front of me there can be found neither a date nor a signature. MR. McHANEY:It the Tribunal pleases, the observation made by the defense counsel for Mrugowsky is quite correct in so far as the second page of this document contains no signature. However, it seems apparent... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 123,750 | 124,250 |
an official committee of the United States Army on the Concentration Camp Dachau. The Army set up a number of investigating committes which, after the capture of various concentration camps, immediately conducted very extensive investigations, making a great number of written statements from the inmates of these concen... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 124,200 | 124,700 |
document is admissible. DR. PELCKMANN:I contest that the document was submitted in its entirety before the International Military Tribunal. I want to ask the counsel for the prosecution when this document was submitted in its entirety. According to my recollection, only excerpts from this document were submitted. I mer... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 124,650 | 125,150 |
evidence on the freezing experiments conducted at Dachau; and Mr. Hardy will continue now with the introduction of testimony and proof on the malaria Experiments MR. HARDY:May it please the Tribunal, the prosecution charges in the indictment the defendants Karl Brandt, Handloser, Rostock, Gebhardt, Blome, Rudolf Brandt... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 125,100 | 125,600 |
experiments and when the witness arrives, we can use him at that time. THE PRESIDENT:You may go ahead. MR. HARDY:At this tine, Your Honors, the Prosecution respectfully requests the Tribunal to take judicial notice of the official review of the proceedings in the Dachau trial, under Ordinance 7, Article 9. In accordanc... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 125,550 | 126,050 |
a result of the trial. THE PRESIDENT:It contains the findings then which are merely quotations from the sentences of the Court? MR. HARDY:If you will turn to page 8 in Your Honors' Document Book, second paragraph, there is stated the Court's sentences in this particular case, in regard to Schilling, and then it is affi... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 126,000 | 126,500 |
of the list. There the list was confirmed by the Schutzhaftlagerfuehrer" - that is the SS Camp Commandant- "who sometimes made a few changes in the list. These lists appeared about once every month since about 1943. None of the 1200 selectees ever consented or volunteered. Priests were often selected for these experime... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 126,450 | 126,950 |
Pyramidon has toxis influence on the blood corpuscles which causes them to disintegrate. Malaria was the direct cause of thirty deaths and, as a result of complications, 300 to 400 more died. People who had died directly from malaria, had some straight from the malaria ward, while the 300 to 400 others had undergone th... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 126,900 | 127,400 |
order for him to continue his studies at Dachau. Schilling had selected Dachau because it was near his birthplace. The question of using prisoners for experiments was not discussed. In January 1942 Schilling went to Dachau. Schilling only accepted this commission at Dachau because the League of Nations, of which he was... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 127,350 | 127,850 |
were told to report back if they felt sick. Periodic checks were made of them and any patient was received back if there were signs of relapse. If Schilling were asked to resume his work, he would do so only volunteers. 398 "Dr. Schilling was withdrawn as a witness at this point, but resumed the stand later and testifi... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 127,800 | 128,300 |
was not a sever case." -- A kilo is approximately two pounds--Schilling gave three grams of neo-salvarsan in five days, which was the largest dose he ever gave over that period of time. He does net remember giving drugs to sufferers of dysentery. "Schilling did not remember specific cases where he did not use caution. ... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 128,250 | 128,750 |
and Kasinemer Gasimer Rikofsky." We now turn to Section VI, which is Prosecution Rebuttal Evidence Paragraph 15, referring to Klaus Karl Schilling. "When one of Dr. Schilling's patients died, there were orders to report that fact to the malaria station, even though the man had died in another section of the hospital. T... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 128,700 | 129,200 |
then sent to the camp commander and labor office. About 1200 selectees were thus chosen for subjection. Many of them were priests. The number of people who died from the malaria or from drugs such as pyramidon or neo-salvarsan is not known. Certainly some died. It is reasonable to infer that the deaths of many of the i... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 129,150 | 129,650 |
released. "3. Of the objects offered, the most favorable to date is a farmhouse at Holzkirchen. It is situated in the immediate vicinity of the railroad station near the Autobahn. The price is 73,000 Reichmark. It would have to be rebuilt for our purposes. To date, it has been used for the housing of soldiers. The Wehr... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 129,600 | 130,100 |
11 of the Document Book under "22 February, 1330 hours to 1500 hours. Article ** Conference with Dr. Habil. Ed. May, (b) Collaboration with Dr. Ploetner and Prof. Schilling." THETRIBUNAL (Judge Sebring) Just a moment sir. I haven't located it, will you repeat that again, sir. MR. HARDY:Under date of 22 February, page 1... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 130,050 | 130,550 |
so unclear that I would like to cross examine him under all circumstances. I, therefore, request that this document be not read. MR. McHANEY:If the Tribunal please, I would like very vigorously to object to his motion to exclude the affidavit secured from Oswald Pohl. In the first place Ordnance No. 7 clearly provides ... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 130,500 | 131,000 |
by the Prosecution, that Pohl will be available to be called as a witness by the defendant. MR. HARDY:I shall read the affidavit: "General. Medical experiments were conducted by order of Himmler. Representatives of the medical profession who knew how to sell him a medical problem as extremely important or who had good ... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 130,950 | 131,450 |
through a glass window. Afterwards the person experimented upon was brought to Rascher's study where he was asked questions by Rascher. The prisoner answered those first questions as if in a stupor until after a certain time his full senses of perception were restored. I did not see any other experiments of Rascher. Ne... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 131,400 | 131,900 |
us to visit Radebeul and to start the cultivation there. During this visit we were shown the premises and experiments with animals in the laboratory. I am not sure that these were experiments with the Schweigrohr medicine, but I presume that this was the case. A hothouse was needed for the cultivation of this plant in ... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 131,850 | 132,350 |
explain this to us. If the document has not been sworn to, then I ask that it be withdrawn. MR. HARDY:I can fully explain the condition, Your Honor. This document was written by Oswald Pohl in his cell in his own handwriting, and when he finished writing it, it was 14 June. Then, after he had written the document, he w... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 132,300 | 132,800 |
27 and was a report of War Crimes Investigation Team # 6823. At this time I wish to call... THE PRESIDENT:Just a moment. In connection with this exhibit which has just been offered. It may be admitted if a photostatic copy of the pertinent parts, including the confidential cover, will be substituted promptly. JUDGE SEB... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 132,750 | 133,250 |
it was not available either. However, he knows that the three volumes, as he informed me, were never submitted in their entirety before the IMT. I therefore request the Tribunal to also examine this question: If the three volumes were not submitted in their entirety to the IMT these two volumes, in my opinion, cannot b... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 133,200 | 133,700 |
Marion Dabrowski, taken at Dachau, Germany 13 May 1945. Question number 1; Marion Dabrowski was asked his name, and his answer -- he was a Catholic priest. I now request the Tribunal to turn to page 31, the secon question: Q.Were you forced to submit to the malaria experiment while you were a prisoner at Dachau? A. Yes... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 133,650 | 134,150 |
said anything to us. He treated us like dogs. When I protested to Dr. Schilling in person, I tried, at first, to talk French to him, because he knew that language; and it is easier for me than to talk German. He told me, in fact, he stopped me at once, and said, "In this camp we speak in German." When, after that, I pr... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 134,100 | 134,600 |
Nazis and placed in a concentration camp? AI was arrested in May 1940 and taken to the concentration camp at Sachsenhausen. QWhen were you transferred to the Dachau Concentration Camp? AI was sent to the concentration camp at the 16 th of October 1940, coming from Neuengamme. QWhile you were an innate at the concentrat... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 134,550 | 135,050 |
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