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inmate? A.The biggest part of those who were treated biologically, that is, a of them developed abscesses and very deep abscesses. Part of the persons who received allopathical and prophylactical treatment with sulfanilamide h** no abscesses. Q.Did the inmates who had endured this treatment suffer pain? A.Yes. Q.Severe... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 180,000 | 180,500 |
about the work of Professor Schilling at the malaria station? A.I knew Professor Schilling, but I did not work at the malaria station. That is, at one time I had to do night duty there for two or three days and take temperatures. I know that Professor Schilling infected over 1,000 people with malaria. I also know that ... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 180,450 | 180,950 |
used by Dr. Rascher and his colleagues in the high altitude experiments? A.It took some time. For some time the so-called low pressure chamber was in Blocks 3 and 5. These were big chambers. Q.You saw that chamber yourself, Witness? A.Yes, I saw the chamber there myself. Q.I know this may strain you a bit, Witness, but... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 180,900 | 181,400 |
Q.I don't know whether we are concerned with experiments here, but I know that in approximately 1942, or it may have even been earlier, a so-called experimental station was built in Block 5. A certain Mr. von Weihern who, as far as I know was a homeopathic physician, was in charge of one department and there was also a... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 181,350 | 181,850 |
the station of Dr. Rascher in Dachau? Do you remember what this station was called? What was the name of the station at Dachau -- Rascher's experimental station? A.Yes; we nurses knew that this station was part of the so-called Institute of "Ahnenerbe", or something like that. Q.Do you remember who was the manager of t... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 181,800 | 182,300 |
post, the administration of the camp, then approved the number of people which were needed I don't know much about the further developments of things, since all these matters went over the to the administration and we really had very little to do with them, we nurses. I only know that, mainly with reference to the peop... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 182,250 | 182,750 |
know; and after Dr. Rascher left, Dr. Bloettner came to work in Dr. Racher's section. Q.Do you know whether Dr. Bloettner had anything to do with Pectine experiments? A.He conducted the experiments with pectine at Dachau, he tried to use pectine. DR. WEISGERBER:I have no more questions. DR. GUSTAVSTEINBAUER (Counsel fo... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 182,700 | 183,200 |
compelled to answer questions under oath, that any statements made by you as a witness can and may be used as evidence against you in the event of such a prosecution; and that, consequently, you may refuse to answer such questions put to you as may, in your honest opinion, tend to incriminate you. Do you understand? A.... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 183,150 | 183,650 |
January 1941 I took sick and after my recovery I was made a nurse in the tuberculosis ward; but I must emphasize I knew nothing about the nursing of tuberculosis. Q.Now in 1941 then you became a nurse, in the early part of 1941, a nurse in the tuberculosis ward in the hospital at Dachau, is that correct? A.Yes. Q.And h... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 183,600 | 184,100 |
Q.Now, witness, why is it that you were put in the Police Reserve? A.I was not allowed to enter the camp in civilian clothes any longer. I was originally to be drafted into the SS but then I was put in the Police Reserve stationed at Dachau. Q.All right now, after you came back to Dachau in January 1944, how long were ... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 184,050 | 184,550 |
in their crutches and whatever else they had, and they were taken away by the hundreds. We could follow their route only as far as Linz, but the death reports which came in and their clothing which came back told u that the people had been liquidated. This invalid action was followed by a series of periodic other actio... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 184,500 | 185,000 |
had gold in his mouth he was registered carefully and after he died he had to pay the gold from his mouth for the last tribute for the fight against National Socialism. QWitness, can you tell us approximately how many people were included a these invalid transports during the period you were in the hospital ward, and I... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 184,950 | 185,450 |
not these invalid transports continued after you left the hospital in February 1942? A.In 1942 I am sure there were invalid transports, but how long they went on I do not know exactly. Q.Now, witness, were non-German Nationals included in these invalid transports? A.Among the invalids there was a large percentage of no... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 185,400 | 185,900 |
the same way. We realized then what was being done and what was planned. We also knew that the Bishop of Galen had taken up a stand against this action. That was the only way that I can explain it. Q.And all of this - these invalid transports - were what you knew as ActionF-13? A.Yes. Q.Do you know of any one from Berl... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 185,850 | 186,350 |
Tribunal, I do not care to offer the book in evidence, however, I believe you might like to look at the picture and get some idea of the chamber, so that I am asking that it be passed up. (THE BOOK IS SHOWN TO THE TRIBUNAL) Q.Witness, was this a moveable low pressure chamber? A.Yes. Q.Now, who brought the chamber down ... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 186,300 | 186,800 |
ask that you carefully look at all of the defen dants in the dock and indicate which of the people there you have seen before A.I recognize only one man that I saw in the camp. Q.What man is that, witness? A.The first man in the first row, the fartherest one from me. Q.And can you recall when you saw this man in Dachau... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 186,750 | 187,250 |
experimental subjects; and they were told that nothing would happen to them In the beginning, the first three weeks, the experiments went off without incident. One day, however, Rascher told me the next day he was going to make a serious experiment and that he would need sixteen Russians who had been condemned to death... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 187,200 | 187,700 |
what happ ned, I wouldn't remain at this - Q.Now, witness, let me interrupt you just a minute. We will come back and you can tell the full story then. THE PRESIDENT:We will take a fifteen-minute recess. (A recess was taken.) THE PRESIDENT:I will ask the Secretary General to turn this book over to counsel for the prosec... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 187,650 | 188,150 |
however, this procedure differed with the so-called series of experiments and a number of other experiments. On those experiments, the people were brought into the experimen tal station straight from the camp, that is, from the blocks. QNow, did they, to your knowledge, make any effort in the camp to secure volunteers ... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 188,100 | 188,600 |
this group were incidentally transferred to the Russians but all the persons who were forced to join this group were very disgusted because they had to join the SS and fight for them. They considered that as one of the worse shames that they should just be selected to join the SS. Q.Was the Tuerlewanger a special comma... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 188,550 | 189,050 |
has received in evidence certain pictures of concentration camp inmates under going the High Altitude Experiments in Dachau. Now, I want you to look at these pictures and I will then ask you a question about them. (The pictures were handed to the witness.) Witness, I will ask you whether you see any triangles on the un... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 189,000 | 189,500 |
a prisoner had been condemned to death, that is, when the experimental subject arrived in the pressure chamber, was there any way to know whether he had been condemned to death? A.Once the experimental subject came from the Bunker, that is, as soon as the SS took them out, we could always tell they were prisoners who h... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 189,450 | 189,950 |
in order to express myself properly. I only know that it was said that gas or certain air in the brain which result at high altitudes, and they wanted to determine how the prisoner would rea** in this high altitude. QDid Romberg assist in this particular autopsy in the low pressure camber? AYes. QWas this man deliberat... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 189,900 | 190,400 |
were carried out on ten subjects. Were any of those first ten subjects volunteers? AThe first ten subjects were not volunteers; and they did not remain at the station only at the beginning; but they stayed there during the entire period, that is, for the entire period that the low pressure chamber was there. Every one ... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 190,350 | 190,850 |
middle or the end of May. I remember that because this meant the time for me to try to make this chamber harmless. I used some glass files and started filing on the high altitude appara During the next experiment it smashed to bits. Romberg managed to get some substitute parts within fourteen days so that the chamber w... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 190,800 | 191,300 |
didn't Romberg ever ask you? Wasn't he interested in knowing what went on while he happened to be away? AI cannot remember Romberg's having asked me personally what Rascher had done in the meantime. It really is the case that Rascher was a Stabs Physician of the Luftwaffe; and I was, after all, only an inmate. QCan you... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 191,250 | 191,750 |
lot of figures. Is there anything else which you feel that you should tell us about these high-altitude experiments? A.No. Q.All right. Let's move on to the freezing experiments. When did the freezing experiments start? A.During August or at the end of July the first freezing experiments started. They were conducted by... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 191,700 | 192,200 |
the high-altitude experiments? A.No. Here Rascher turned to the camp administration and told them that he needed so and so many experimental subjects. Then the political department of the camp selected ten inmates by name. That list was sent to the Camp Commander and was signed by the Camp Commander and they were then ... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 192,150 | 192,650 |
while in the air pressure chamber each death case cannot be considered as an accident, but as a willful murder. However, it was different when Rascher personally took over these experiments. At that time a large number of the persons involved were kept in the water for so long a time until they were dead. Q.Now, witnes... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 192,600 | 193,100 |
with a pistol, and he said "Don'.t dare interfere and app; those victims." The experiment lastet at least five hours until death set Both corpses were sent to Munich for autopsy in the Schwabisches Hospital there. Q.Witness, how long did it normally take to kill a person in these from experiments? A.The length of the e... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 193,050 | 193,550 |
in that manner. These arc the methods which were employed in order to rewarm the frozen body. Q.Now, Witness, did. I understand you to say that the hot water bath method, of rewarming was not adopted until after Holzloehner and Finke had left? A.After Holzloehner and. Finko had left the station hot water rewarming was ... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 193,500 | 194,000 |
about freezing experiments, what type or any details I do not know. Q.I suggest to you that Professor Hirth was carrying out mustard and Lost gas experiments; did you over hear of that? A.No. Q.As I recall you having stated Sievers made certain visits to the experimental station when the freezing experiments were being... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 193,950 | 194,450 |
when were they first conducted, do you know? A.According to my recollection the air freezing experiments wore carried out in January, February and March 1943. First of all one experiment was made when the prisoner was placed on a stretcher at night and put outside the block He was covered with a linen sheet, but a buck... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 194,400 | 194,900 |
six o'clock we found the patients back outside, but we took a careful record indicating that ten experiments were made. That is why in the record of the experiences carried cut by Dr. Rascher, it is stated that experimental subjects had remained from the evening in outside temperature from three to ten degrees below fr... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 194,850 | 195,350 |
There were also German political prisoners and "green" prisoners. 638 Q.And these prisoners had not volunteered? Had they? A.No. Q.Now, witness, tell us to the best of your ability, tell us how long Dr. Rascher was a member of the Medical Service of the Luftwaffe? A.I can only say that up until the end of 1943 Rascher ... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 195,300 | 195,800 |
form. After checking with my comrades, we decided we must have this man at the station at any costs and maybe it would be possible to stop Rascher from amking rhose experiments in order to make him carry out harmless experiments. Rascher turned me anyway on two occasions; but the third time he followed my suggestions. ... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 195,750 | 196,250 |
took Rascher to task for having mentioned in an article that experiments were made on concentration camp inmates, would you suppose that those experiments were the simple clinical tests which you, have mentioned? AAwritten report from Rascher to Pohl is known to me. The situation was this: Rascher was walking a number ... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 196,200 | 196,700 |
any way as to what the connection was between Professor Blome and Dr. Rascher. MR. McHANEY:I am referring to Document 3546-PS, Your Honors, and I read from page 170 the English Document Book Number 3. The first entry I would like to call your attention to is number three. It says; "SS--Mauptsturmfuehrer Dr. Rascher sup... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 196,650 | 197,150 |
Weichs what the background of the story was of that, whether it was an intrigue of Rascher or whether Pohl had something again Weichs. Weichs did not recall that ho ever had any controversy with Pohl. To come back to the telephone conversation, it may nave been so that on the part of tho Ahnenerbe Society and on the pa... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 197,100 | 197,600 |
my wife. My wife never received anything; she never received a penny from Dr.Rascher. Q.Don't you recall also, in the same letter, that he told you ho had received a research assignment from the Reich Research Council? A.I know, but whether 1 have that knowledge from letters from Rascher or from letters which came from... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 197,550 | 198,050 |
rate, Rascher said so. Q.Wasn't Blome also a member of the Reich Research Council? A.That I can only assume. I could not say that with certainty; I do not know it for sure. Q.Well, how could you assume it? What information do you have which leads you to believe that he might be? A.I assume it because Rascher and Blome,... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 198,000 | 198,500 |
in our presence. But I know that they distributed at least 60 to 80 of these tablets, or rather, that he manufactured at least 60 to 80 of these tablets every day and took them along with him. He always went to the crematorium or to the bunker and that is where he conducted these experiments. Any more definite details ... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 198,450 | 198,950 |
certain items. At that time, I used the opportunity to remove several very important documents and, in November 1944, I buried them. Later, I was frequently questioned by the criminal police of Munich about that kidnapping and I have found out from the police that Mrs. Rasher did not only kidnap that one child but all ... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 198,900 | 199,400 |
vans, however, people were trembling and, of course, that trembling showed on many of the cardiograms, but for a doctor it must have been possinic to determine whether dearth would occur or not. MR. McHANEY:I have no further questions at this time. THE PRESIDENT:Docs the defense counsel have any questions to ask the Pr... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 199,350 | 199,850 |
us. Q.Would you have not found out that he was the escort physician of the Fuehrer? Would that not have been conspicuous enough for every no to know about it? A.You have to consider that we inmates - Q. (Interposing) Witness, will you answer that question, yes or no? After that you can make explanations. A.Will you the... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 199,800 | 200,300 |
uniform. In uniform -- at least, the man who accompanied Doctor Romberg was in uniform. Q.Witness, I should like to point out to you that this man, whom you recognized again or whom you said you recognized again, Doctor Ruff, and he did not wear a uniform at all. What you have just said; namely, that you recognized thi... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 200,250 | 200,750 |
on the 22nd of February 1942; that is, on the first day, during those experiments at Dachau? A.I maintain that on the 22nd of February experiments were conducted for the first time; and I maintain that Romberg was there in Dachau that day; and I know it exactly because in the room where Romberg and Rascher were there w... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 200,700 | 201,200 |
him? A.No. Q.But you did recognize him here again? A.Yes. Q.Did you know that this Dr. Ruff was a defendant here and that he was sitting in the defendants' dock? Did you know that yesterday when you entered this courtroom? A.I approximately knew the names of the persons who were indicted from the newspaper. Q.Did you k... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 201,150 | 201,650 |
t Id us that these experiments were conducted at night after Dr. Romberg, who is the fourth gentleman sitting in the second row, had left? A.No. Q.You said that yesterday. A.No, these first experiments were conducted during the whole day; but Romberg was not present that day. Q.Do you know what these serious experiment... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 201,600 | 202,100 |
higher tho airplane rises the lower is the pressure. The mercury tube does nob rise when the airplane rises but falls down, pressure decreases and you made this mistake. After I put that to you, do you still want be maintain your erroneous description under oath? A.Yes. Q.And then I shall put another point to you where... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 202,050 | 202,550 |
I try to tread on a correct road and say the complete truth, and I think that the answers that I gave at that time have to tally with the answers I an giving today. Q.But you don't know that exactly, do you? A.Well, I don't knew exactly what questions were put to no at that time. Q.So if I summarize your answer, you ar... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 202,500 | 203,000 |
only these ton experimental subjects were used, but that a number of other inmates were taken to the experimental station to be experimented upon. Q.But do you know what the aim was that was thought to be achieved by carrying out these experiments? A.No. Q.Do you know that a report was made with reference to these expe... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 202,950 | 203,450 |
obvious to you? AAt the beginning? QAt the beginning of the experiments, yes that is what I am asking you, wasn't that obvious to you? AAt the beginning of the experiments it could be assumed that only the ten experimenters were to be used. QDo you know that on the part of the camp administration a directive went to th... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 203,400 | 203,900 |
Rascher, Hautpscharfuehrer Endes and an SS man who was unknown to me. QDidn't you receive knowledge later what purpose Dr. Rascher wanted to achieve with the further experiments? Did he intend to conduct a certain series of experiments or were they individual experiments, or didn't he know perhaps exactly what no wante... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 203,850 | 204,350 |
is impossible for me to differentiate here as to just who ordered those individual experiments. Q.Now if; in this report about the experiments which were ordered by the Luftwaffe Research Council; it was mentioned that people did not lose their lives during these experiments, would you say that was a lie, or would you ... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 204,300 | 204,800 |
not? And the experiments which resulted in death and where Romberg was present, were they similar to the ones which were conducted on the original ten persons A.I must say, according to my layman opinion, that every death case in the air-pressure chamber was brought about willfully and intentionally. Q.And whose will w... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 204,750 | 205,250 |
in the camp? A.Rascher's power in the camp had no limit, but not at the beginning, Rascher's power increased periodically, and towards the end he was so strong that no one could interfere with him in the camp. Q.Was Rascher a member of the SS at the beginning of the experiments? A.I only hoard that Rascher, ever since ... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 205,200 | 205,700 |
have to recognize that he was concerned with experiments which could result in death? A.No must have recognized that for the first time when it was tried to persuade Rascher to desist from conducting these experiments which could result in death; and it is then that Romberg for the first time had the certainty that exp... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 205,650 | 206,150 |
Romberg participate in the autopsy? A.No. Q.Were you over actually present in the low-pressure chamber during experiments? A.Yes. Q.Did you ever hear, as Dr. Romberg maintains, that during one experiment when he was present and had not known that it was an experiment which was to result in death after he saw the Ekg (e... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 206,100 | 206,600 |
conduct the experiments under anesthetics. QWas it not so that Prof. Holzloehner quarreled with Rascher on other parts too? And he wanted to avoid a fatal outcome of the experiments, under all circumstances? AI know that Prof. Holzloehner did not have any deaths in connection with any experiments with water. The deaths... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 206,550 | 207,050 |
they were pure Luftgau officers; couldn't you have told whether they were medical officers; wouldn't you have been able to conclude that, from what they said? AI know that officers with the medical staff were there. The talks were always in Rascher's room, so that I could not know anything about them. QDid you recogniz... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 207,000 | 207,500 |
had with his animal experiments? AI do not know about that. Q.Did Dr. Rascher perhaps tell you that Professor Weltz had the ambition of taking over these experiments? Did Rascher ever say anything like that to you? A.No. Q.But perhaps you know that professor Holzloehner on occasion came to see Dr. Weltz to compare his ... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 207,450 | 207,950 |
keep such a document secret went? A.I know only that I was told I must not let it cut of my hands and must only give it to the person to whom it was addressed, if I understand your question correctly. Q.Yes, you, understood me correctly; and to whom was this one document with the yellow stripe addressed? A.I don't reme... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 207,900 | 208,400 |
Do you know on whose instigation this false information was put into the announcement? -686 A.No. Q.I have no more questions. CROSS EXAMINATION BY DR. ORTH (assistant counsel for the defendant Sievers) Q.Witness, do you know that Himmler protected Stabsarzt Dr. Rascher particularly? A.I kn w that Mrs. Rascher was a fri... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 208,350 | 208,850 |
the experiments; for the so-called blood coagulate drug experiments. We had many volunteers. The detail instructors consisted of five prisoners and myself and we all volunteered to conduct these experiments on ourselves. DR. ORTH:I thank you. THE PRESIDENT:Is there any further cross examination of this witness on the p... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 208,800 | 209,300 |
would lean a little to that side and that the mercury had to rise. Everything made of glass in this instrument was shattered. Whether the mercury container at the bottom was of glass I don't know, but where the gas went into the mercury container was certainly of glass because that is where I filled it. Q.And while you... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 209,250 | 209,750 |
Rascher ever tell you that he had recommended Romberg for a modal because of the part he played in these high altitude experiments? A.Yes, but that was much later, Rascher once mentioned that ho had suggested Romberg for some award to the Reichsfuehrer. Q.Now, you have stated; as I understand it; that Romberg was certa... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 209,700 | 210,200 |
talked to kin. I saw a senior block inmate of the penal or of the Jewish block looking out of the next block and impulsively I said to Rascher: "Take that fellow and lot this peer one go." The nan in question was Robert Wagner. It is known of Robert Wagner, and every prisoner will confirm it, that he boat the prisoners... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 210,150 | 210,650 |
is called Sammedinger Curve because on this road construction ho crippled very many comrades by beating them. As we learned from our comrades from Natzweiler he is responsible for the death of at least one hundred people. In this connection I may ask myself whether I would be accused for a third person for having broug... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 210,600 | 211,100 |
that I have been to submit any sooner Dr. Hirt's report which you. requested in your letter of 29 December 1941, Journal No. AR/493/37. He was stricken with pulmonary hemorrhages, the diagnosis was 'Cystlung', so at least it is not TB. In addition to that he suffered from cir-culatory asthenia. At present he is still i... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 211,050 | 211,550 |
as is possible, the origin, date of birth, and other personal data of the prisoner. Following the subsequently induced death of the Jew, whose head must not be damaged, he will separate the head from the torso and will forward it to its point of destination in a preservative fluid within a well-sealed tin container esp... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 211,500 | 212,000 |
to some extent the effect by the use of various chemicals. I now turn to Document No. 090, which will be Prosecution's Exhibit 176 This is a letter from defendant Rudolf Brandt to the defendant Sievers in reply to the letter which I have just read, and which is Prosecution's Exhibit No. 175. This is dated 27 February 1... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 211,950 | 212,450 |
1942, four days following the receipt of the letter of 2 November 1942 from Sievers to Brandt. This is a letter to the Reich Main Security Office by Rudolf Brandt. The court will note that it is directed to the Office IV B 4, in care of SS Lieutenant Colonel Eichmann. As I recall, I told the court a few days ago that t... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 212,400 | 212,900 |
in detail would be remedied. I had received your letter just the very morning I went to see SS-Obergruppenhuehrer Pohl. Therefore I could not possibly read it through before. I only remembered what you had told me orally. If further intervention on my part should be necessary will you please let me know. Heil Hitler, Y... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 212,850 | 213,350 |
which was the first document to go in out of this book; that is, DocumentNO-085. Actually the exhibit contains only the covering letter from Sievers to Rudolf Brandt plus that part of the report dealing with the Jewish skeleton collection. The exhibit which is going into evidence does not contain that part of Professor... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 213,300 | 213,800 |
by the French, and ordered to be cremated. Decision on the following proposals is requested: 1) collection can be preserved; 2) collection is to be partly dissolved; 3) entire collection is to be dissolved." Signed Sievers, SS-Standartenfuehrer He see here that their plans changed somewhat from the original proposal by... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 213,750 | 214,250 |
in fact been completely destroyed, but as we shall see later this very afternoon, that in ace was not accomplished. I would now like to refer back and read a few excerpts from the Sievers diary which trows a little further light on this particular subject. The firs reference is in DocumentNO-538which went in as Prosecu... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 214,200 | 214,700 |
and the Tribunal will hear some mention made of Bong in the testimony of a witness who will be brought to the stand shortly. Turning to page 6 of the Sievers Diary for 1944, we find that on the 4th of April, 1944, a note appears: SS Uschaf. Dr. Beger - Advised discussion with Professor Abel in regard to work by Dr. Tro... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 214,650 | 215,150 |
death and a natural death. 4. Witness, lot's find out just a little bit about you before you tell the Court about what happened at the Anatomical Institute in Strassbourg under Dr. Hirt. Now, were you ever arrested by the Germans? A.I was arrested by the Germans in Paris. Q.In Paris? A.I was arrested by the Germans in ... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 215,100 | 215,600 |
the 6th of June, 1942? A.Yes sir. Q.And you took this job in Hirt's institution? A.On the 20th of June I took the job. Q.And your task there was the conservation of corpses under the supervision A.My employment was to proceed with the preservation of corpses, and to prepare for their lectures to students in the auditor... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 215,550 | 216,050 |
away. The corpses arrived when they were still warm. The eyes were wide open and brilliant; they seemed congested and red, and they were popping out of the orbits. There were traces of blood at the nose and at the mouth, and there was evidence of focal matter coming out. There was no rigor mortis apparent. At that mome... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 216,000 | 216,500 |
sheet with each body, whereas in the case of these eighty-six victims,, there were no sheets at all; besides which; you should know as well as I that a person who dies a natural death does not leave a corpse with shiny, glistening eyes like those that I had seen nor in a state of complete congestion; nor with blood flo... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 216,450 | 216,950 |
bodies and to have than cremated in the Strassbourg City Crematorium. The work having been accomplished by Mr. Bong and Mr. Meier in the actual room where these tanks were, I asked Mr. Bong the following morning if he had cut up all of the bodies. He replied, "We couldn't cut them all up, it was far too much work. We l... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 216,900 | 217,400 |
to you a booklet of pictures. And this, if the Tribunal please, is documentNO-483. A.I did not hear very well. Q.I say that I am going to have handed to you a book of pictures, and I want you to tell the Tribunal if these are pictures of the corpses which were left in Strassbourg. A.Yes, certainly, the photographs were... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 217,350 | 217,850 |
duplicate them now. There was just a delay in it. I would like to go ahead, though, and offer them as exhibits, as soon a s this witness has been excused, based first upon his identification and secondly upon the certification attached to each. JUDGE SEBRING:With the proviso that they will be duplicated. MR. McHANEY:I ... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 217,800 | 218,300 |
raid, during which a number of members of this institute lost their lives. THE PRESIDENT:The counsel will state the other questions, which he desires to ask. DR. FRITZ:In the event that the witness cannot recall the date of the air raid, I should have pointed out to him that we are concerned with the same air-raid duri... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 218,250 | 218,750 |
which might be of interest as to the activities of the Hygienic Institute. The prosecution does not raise any serious objections to the asking of those questions, except to point out that it is beyond the scope of the direct examination and he is thereby making this witness his own witness and he will be so bound be th... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 218,700 | 219,200 |
exactly I cannot say. QIn that case, I have, no further questions to ask the witness. THE PRESIDENT:Does counsel desire to ask any questions of this witness in the morning? if not, the witness may be excused. We will recess until 9:30 in the morning. (ADJOURNMENT.) Official Transcript of the American Military Tribunal ... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 219,150 | 219,650 |
20 really should be marked page 23, and page 23 is really the first part of the translation and it is the certification given by the Strassbourg Police and it reads as follows: It is on the letter head of the Regional Service of Legal Strassbourg Police. "I, the undersigned, HELFFER Eugene, principal Commissary, Chief ... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 219,600 | 220,100 |
in the Crematorium of Strassbourg -- actions which were meant to prevent indentification of the bodies and to obstruct the French Medico-Legal research. "Picture 14 shows parts of defleshed bodies." Fifteen is the same. No comment on 16. Picture number 17 is said to be a "body of a young girl, healthy and robust, taken... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 220,050 | 220,550 |
the Tenth Region, assisted by Lieutenant Jr. Hertzog, stenographer at the same Military Tribunal, also functioning..." THE PRESIDENT:From what page of the record book are you reading? MR. McHANEY:It is our new page 23. You will recall that I asked you to transpose page 20 and 23. ".... assisted by Lieutenant Jr. Hertzo... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 220,500 | 221,000 |
the gas chamber of the Struthof Camp with asphyxiating gases and that their bodies were to be driven to the anatomical Institute so that he could dispose of them. "After this conversation he gave me a bottle of about one-fourth of a liter containing salts which I think were cyanhydrique salts. "The professor told me ab... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 220,950 | 221,450 |
I ignored what Hirt was going to do with the bodies of these inmates whom I have asphyxiated, on his indications, at the Struthof. I did not think I had to ask him. "On demand: I ignored to what nationality belonged the assassinated inmates; I think they came from the southeast of Europe, but I cannot designate the cou... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 221,400 | 221,900 |
read, he signs with me and my stenographer." Signed, E.Hertzog, Josef Kramer, Gadin. I submit Document No.NO-807as Prosecution Exhibit 185. THE PRESIDENT:Do I understand, Counsel, that the originals of these photographs are to remain permanently as an exhibit before this Tribunal or are the originals to be returned to ... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 221,850 | 222,350 |
1946, I am able to make this statement concerning experiments performed on human beings. Experiments to determine the cause of epidemic jaundice (Hepatitis Epidemica)". I might say at this time, from time to time in the documents you will see in lieu of the word "jaundice", "hepatitis", which is the German word for jau... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 222,300 | 222,800 |
June 1943. Subject: Experiments to determine the cause of Infectious Jaundice. "Reichsfuehrer: The General Kommissar of the Fuehrer, SS Brigadefuehrer Professor Dr. Brandt, has approached me with request to help him in the research on the causes of infectious jaundice, which has been to a large extent promoted by him, ... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 222,750 | 223,250 |
No.NO-011, which we offer as Prosecution Exhibit No. 188. This is Himmler's answer to Grawitz's letter of 1 June, dated 16 June 1943: "Subject: Investigation of the cause of the infectious jaundice. "Reference: Yoursof 1 June 1943. TOP SECRET "Reich Doctor SS and Police "Berlin "I acknowledge the receipt of your letter... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 223,200 | 223,700 |
R.L.M., originating from the same place, Subject: Typhus vaccine, Order value 4,000 RM, proposed 7 October 1943. Then we go on and we have another entry for influenza and another entry for Typhus, and so on. This is just to show the strength of the work, the application of Haagen, of what he was doing in the various or... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 223,650 | 224,150 |
funds for this branch are now exhausted and I am faced with the question as to whether to apply for further funds to my Medical Chief of the Luftwaffe or to you, I would be grateful to you to be informed about this shortly. "With kindest greetings and compliments, "Heil Hitler!"Very devotedly yours, (presumably signed ... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 224,100 | 224,600 |
glad if I could offer Mr. Schueffner a place to work. Mr. Schueffner's interests are so extensive that it should not be difficult for him to find work within the framework of our German war-essential research. In case a subject should be suggested, I should like to propose that Mr. Schueffner work on endemic spyrochaet... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 224,550 | 225,050 |
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