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me. Q:Witness, we will now speak of another problem. You spoke of the prohibited sexual intercourse. Is it right that this prohibition originated from the Reich Security Main Office? A:Yes. It originated with Himmler via the Reich Security Main Office. Q:You stated that the Race and Settlement field leaders undertook r... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 118,350 | 118,850 |
anyway, the translations do not make too much sense to us at the present time because the sentences are so long and involved. THE PRESIDENT:It is the opinion of the Tribunal that it would be more helpful if you would make your questions more pointed and short. DR. SCHWARZ:Yes, your Honor, I will endeavor to do so. A.At... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 118,800 | 119,300 |
in the court and then they were registered. They were of course accompanied by police. Q.Do you apply this testimony particularly to this one instance to Saybusch? A.Of course. Q.You can, therefore, not say that this procedure of carrying out racial examination on the very place of the evacuation was held in the same m... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 119,250 | 119,750 |
ever heard anything of an immigration center (EWZ) A.I never spoke of Germanization; I always spoke of racial screening, which was done by these experts. Q.Then it was the EWZ which carried out this re-Germanization? A.Yes. THE PRESIDENT:Too fast. DR. MAAS:I will try to talk more slowly. Q.Witness, do you have any know... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 119,700 | 120,200 |
whether Himmler, who according to your statements, made the final decision, made known his decision to the Race and Settlement Main Office? AI can't say that. I know definitely that Himmler's decision was passed on to the Gestapo agency which had jurisdiction in the case. QIn your direct examination you spoke of an ind... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 120,150 | 120,650 |
the Race and Settlement Office was limited in demension only and was created by the gathering of data resulting from individual cases of racial examinations of the SS members or their ancestors. AThat is the conclusion you draw; why should I draw the same conclusion? QOne final question, please. Who was Arlt, whom you ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 120,600 | 121,100 |
the IMT, had you? AYes, I had. QIs it correct that since that time when you gave your testimony before the IMT large numbers of your former comrades had already withdrawn? AYes, they had. QDid Hildebrandt, contrary to that, at your last meeting prove himself to be your old comrade who did not let himself be influenced ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 121,050 | 121,550 |
Leader have to be established in these territories? AYes. QDo you know what was Forster's policy concerning the Germanization of former Polish citizens in these territories? AI have to make a rather long statement in reply to that. I can't tell you in one sentence. Forster's policy in that respect was contrary to the p... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 121,500 | 122,000 |
to what he was to do? ANo, I have to answer that in the negative. I know that in 1946, he told me that he used to come for advice to me. But -- QOn the direct examination and just now you have spoken of the difficulties which would come arise for the Higher SS and Police Leaders if they wanted to follow a different pol... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 121,950 | 122,450 |
about the SD? A.The SD was not an institution of the State. It was an institution of the Party. It was an SS intelligence service, and it was subordinate to the Chief of the Security Police and also to Himmler. Q.Is it correct, therefore, that Himmler combined in his own person a number of positions which could oppose ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 122,400 | 122,900 |
Himmler's orders of the first of September 1939, according to which Professor Dr. Karl Brandt and Reichsleiter Buhler were placed in charge of the responsibility to authorize the doctors to perform Euthanasia in cases of incurable diseases? A.I know of that order because of the trials. It has become generally known sin... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 122,850 | 123,350 |
The people talked about that. Q.About what time did they talk about it? A.Well, in 1943 when I passed through West Prussia people were saying that at the beginning of the war the asylums had been evacuated and liquidated by the SS. Q.In other words, it was only in 1943 that you heard about the fact that at the beginnin... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 123,300 | 123,800 |
shooting of the mental patients? No statements here are based on what you heard in West Prussia in 1943? AThey are based on what the Kreisleiter, the Ortsgruppenleiter, and so forth, reported to me. QWitness, were you in Silesia a representative of the Reich Commissioner for the Strengthening of Germanism? AYes, I was.... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 123,750 | 124,250 |
of dessimating the Slav population in the East? AIt wasn't a speech but we had an informal discussionsdiscussions around a fireplace - and in the course of those conversations around a fireplace Himmler made such remarks and I have testified to that before the IMT. QDo you know the man called Liebehenschel? ANo; but I ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 124,200 | 124,700 |
from a racial point of view and to give an opinion and evaluation concerning the racial qualities of the person. QIs it right, therefore, to say that an expert opinion by the racial examiners, according to which the persons concerned had characteristics which made it appear likely that they were capable of re-Germaniza... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 124,650 | 125,150 |
1939 he had persecuted my family down to the last. I knew perfectly well who was the enemy of my family and if he made with me here in the prison he did so to try and make me certain that he had led an SS resistance group and which I could accept as fact. QWitness, you have already stated that Hildebrandt's work, conce... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 125,100 | 125,600 |
the quashing of the special proceedings? AI always approached Gauleiter Wagner and last time I told you that the whole of the Oberpraesidium in Breslau concerning the sabotage was liquidated because it had sabotaged Himmler's policy. QBut I am asking you about something else. In your capacity as representative of the R... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 125,550 | 126,050 |
restricted to a certain extent of the total extermination of Jews. That plan, as it was actually executed in practice, was not known. QI must have misunderstood you on Friday in that case, for on Friday the general impression here was that the plans for the destruction of the Jews in the East were known among the Highe... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 126,000 | 126,500 |
anything further from the Prosecution. Strictly rebuttal, please. REDIRECT EXAMINATION BY MR. SHILLER: QWitness, with report to the subordination of concentration camps to higher authorities were the concentration camps, to your knowledge, generally subordinated to the Main Economic and Administrative Office of the SS,... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 126,450 | 126,950 |
know but I know in general that people in Higher SS circles were talking about that speech at the time. Q.Could you give an approximate chronological date, witness? A.As far as I can remember it must have been in the year 1942. Q.Witness, do you know where this speech was made by Himmler? A.I believe it was just near C... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 126,900 | 127,400 |
know whether I knew the consequences or not. The other day, quite briefly, but I was interrupted, I said, well now may I ask you to have a look at the diary of the Governor General Frank concerning the speech which I made at Cracow in front of all the leaders of the SS. That speech there does not mean that I began to s... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 127,350 | 127,850 |
recess for 15 minutes. (A recess was taken) THE MARSHAL:The Tribunal is again in session. THE PRESIDENT:Proceed with the prosecution. MR. LAMB:May it please the Tribunal, the Prosecution would like to call the witness Adolf Roegner,R-o-e-g-n-e-r. THE PRESIDENT:Let the witness come to the stand. ADOLFROEGNER, a witness,... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 127,800 | 128,300 |
sent to the authorities for examination and afterwards I was sent to the concentration camp Dachau. Q.You have stated that you were later on an inmate of the concentration camp Auschwitz - A.Yes. Q.To what work were you assigned at Auschwitz? A.First of all I had to take care of the irrigation there; and later on I bec... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 128,250 | 128,750 |
there and after a short time I was told to leave the room, and I had to wait outside. Within the room I only heard how Wolschnitza asked Kaczarowski whether he knew why he had been sent to the concentration camp. Kaczarowski first of all didn't say anything and only after he had been repeatedly asked. Wolschnitza then ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 128,700 | 129,200 |
pressure? A.Yes. Q.Tell what happened before they agreed to be put on the list? A.The inmates who refused to sign the German People's List always had to pass through the department of political interrogation in Auschwitz. Obersturmfuehrer Wolschnitz, Scharfuehrer Brock and Oberscharfuehrer Klausen were always in charge... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 129,150 | 129,650 |
camp and what these conditions possibly have to do with this trial. The concentration camp Auschwitz is not subordinated to any offices which are named in the indictment here; and furthermore acts are mentioned here which were carried out by officials of the Gestapo; the names which have been mentioned here are those o... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 129,600 | 130,100 |
that he had already been imprisoned once before, and that he had been released; the second time he was sent to the concentration camp Auschwitz and taken to the political department for interrogations. This interrogation lasted for approximately a half hour. Afterwards he was taken to the hospital. The person who inter... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 130,050 | 130,550 |
and SS men. The Gestapo members for the most part went around in civilian clothing, Hauptscharfuehrer Westfal would walk around in SD uniform; Wolschnitza would walk around in civilian clothes because he was transferred to the Gestapo. All the other people there were uniforms. Q.What was the SD uniform? What sort of a ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 130,500 | 131,000 |
I would like to know the year when he was sent to the concentration camp, when he was sent to Auschwitz. A.As far as I am able to recall, that must have been in 1941. Q.In 1941? Could it have been 1942? A.No. Q.Was it before 1942? A.Kacarowski had been in the camp for a short time when I was sent to the camp. I arrived... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 130,950 | 131,450 |
in cases were people worked in the construction management, which was subordinated to the Garrison Administration. Q.You gave us a very precise description of an interrogation, and I am now referring to the interrogation of this Kacarowski, when he was sent to the room of the torture instrument. A.Yes. Q.Where were you... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 131,400 | 131,900 |
of the agency which sent them there. Perhaps there were some other statements contained on the paper sending these people to concentration camps, but I don't know anything about them. DR. MASS:I have no further questions, Your Honor. BY DR. von DER TRENCK (For the Defendant Greifelt): Q.- Witness, you mentioned two cas... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 131,850 | 132,350 |
of the treasury. Q.- What problems did the department R-IV concern itself with? A.- R-IV? R-IV was the agency which dealt with sending ethnic German orphans to foster parents. Q.- While you worked with this department R-IV, how many people were employed there? A.- There was the chief of the department, and there would ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 132,300 | 132,800 |
such a way that the material would arrive together with the children. Q.- By whom and for what purpose was this information which you had on the files -- for what purpose was this information used? A.- So that we could determine whether the children could be sent to foster homes. Q.- Did you keep up the files on the ch... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 132,750 | 133,250 |
listed in your files come? A.- They came from Warthe District, the Warthe Gau, and from Lower Styria, and Czechoslovakia. Q.- Did the file cards which you worked with note this information as to the country which the child was from? A.- That information would not be contained in our own files, but we would know whether... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 133,200 | 133,700 |
and just how many were still located in the childrens' homes, and just how many of them had been returned. QWas this report made out as to how many Czech children were left or how many polish children, or any other breakdown other than what you have given? AYes, they were subdivided according to SO and T. QWho selected... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 133,650 | 134,150 |
located when Lebensborn took them over? AThey were located in VOMI camps. QWhere were these VOMI camps located? AAs far as I can recall, in the vicinity of Bayreuth. QAnd as to the Polish children, where were they located when Lebensborn took them? AThey came from Kalisch and Grettau also from Achern, and Niodern. QDo ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 134,100 | 134,600 |
Walter Dengus? AYes, on the ROS cards there was his signature: Dongus. QWas it your understanding that Dongus had anything to do with the selection of these children which came into the Lebensborn homes? AWell, we got his documents concerning the selection made in Litzmannstadt. QThen Dongus to give you this informatio... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 134,550 | 135,050 |
were most of the children placed? AThey were orphans who were ethnic Germans. QWere the Czech children classified by Department R-IV into say other groups than O, OS and T? ANo. QAnd as to the Yugoslav children, were there any other subdivisions than what we have just stated? ANo, there weren't either. QFor what reason... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 135,000 | 135,500 |
QDo you know whether it was Ebner's position to examine the children in order to decide whether they were fit for adoption or not? AIn cases of doubt, when it was a case of ascertaining the age of the children, we asked him to see to it that the children were examined, but that happened only very infrequently. QDo you ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 135,450 | 135,950 |
while in the home in Oberweiss? AYes. QDo you know whether they were taught German in their school? AYes, naturally for the mistress was German. The only language she spoke was German. QDid you see any attempts at the children's home to force these children to speak German? ANo. They were not forced. They were admonish... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 135,900 | 136,400 |
Merkel with him. QDid. the defendant Viermetz ever visit this home while you were there? ANo; I know nothing of that. QWitness, you have explained that you were very familiar not only with the files of DepartmentR-4, but that you personally saw, knew and observed some of these children in the various homes. Now, could ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 136,350 | 136,850 |
is that correct? AYes. QDo you remember any of the names of the children from Yugoslavia? AFor example, Fischkowicz. QWhat was your opinion of these children? What were they called, do you remember? ASO children. QI do not mean as to their classification. I mean under what conditions do you know that these children wer... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 136,800 | 137,300 |
yes. As far as I know, she was in Posen. She has a family there and her brother came to Oberweiss. Q.Of what nationality were these children? A.It was a T child. Q.Was she one of the children who were considered as being from Lidice? A.Yes, or perhaps from the surroundings. Q.Witness, you have stated that these childre... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 137,250 | 137,750 |
Q.And do you say that Wenzel Hantz was returned during the war? A.Returned to whom? Q.To his parents or relatives in Czechoslovakia. A.Well, in the case of Wenzel Hantz, we didn't know the parents. Q.But they knew that Wenzel Hantz came from Czechoslovakia? A.Yes. Q.And he was brought to Germany, as you say, to find hi... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 137,700 | 138,200 |
of the parents having any difficulties with schools, etc. QWhere did the certificates come from? AI don't know. QWho made out those certificates and where were they made out? AIt was the office that signed them. QYour office? AYes, by Tesch. QLebensborn office? AYes. QDo you remember the letter head of those certificat... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 138,150 | 138,650 |
Litsmannstadt. Can you tell us what office it was that did that preparatory work? A A The RSO cards we received from the RuSHA field office at Litzmannstadt from Dongus. QFrom the field office Litztmannstadt from Dongus? AYes. QI have no further questions. BY DR. SCHUBERT (for the defendant Lorenz): CROSS EXAMINATION Q... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 138,600 | 139,100 |
some questions on behalf of Dr. Ebner. Witness, do you remember that Dr. Ebner came to visit the Oberweiss home? AYes. QDuring the time you were there did Dr. Ebner come over once or did he come several times? ANo, he only came once. QYou said that he had looked at the children when he was there? AYes. QDid he subject ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 139,050 | 139,550 |
that become necessary? A Well on the files we received from Posen the information concerning ages were defective; also on the files from juvenile office, there were contradictions, sometimes a difference of a whole year, etc. , sometimes of months. Q If I understand you correctly the files which alone could give in for... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 139,500 | 140,000 |
for then to get accustomed to their now family end their new background if they were not reminded too much of their previous background. What sort of experience did you gain in that respect? A Well naturally the children were torn this way and that if they still had contact with their Polish foster parents. Q Was there... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 139,950 | 140,450 |
you testified that first of all you worked in the main department A, and that in that depart ment you worked on the subject of reception into homes? A Yes. Q I would like to know something about the principles according to which mothers were received in maternity homes of Lebensborn, were there political points of view... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 140,400 | 140,900 |
was 72. Q Now, if I understand you correctly, in effect there were fewer children under the care of the Lebensborn that one would have thought from the figures. A Yes. Q Can you give us any exact information about the number of children who had come from the Warthegau to Oberweiss? That is to say during the period when... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 140,850 | 141,350 |
to the Central Office at Munich statistical reports were sent every now and them; is that correct? A Yes, it is. Q And in those reports the children are supposed to have been classi fied as to their origin. Now, I want to put to you that the placing of SO children after all had been completed at the time when you dealt... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 141,300 | 141,800 |
being taken care of in Lebensborn? In all. A In all about two hundred. Q How many "T" children about did Lebensborn look after? A Only a very few; perhaps seven or twelve, something like that. Q And how many SO children did Lebensborn look after? A Approximately twenty. Q Other children who did not come from Germany Pr... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 141,750 | 142,250 |
this number to the child or was it assigned some place else? A.The number was already there, and we found that a number of children had never turned up with Lebenborn, and therefore, we took their names off. Q.May I interrupt; but this number, say 58, then you feel sure that somewhere there had been 58 children; do you... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 142,200 | 142,700 |
like to ask the Tribunal something with regard to an organizational matter. In the court prison there, is a witness by the name of Gunther Pancke. This witness was turned over by Denmark to appear here in this case, and on Thursday morning he must be taken back to Denmark. The witness has already been interrogated by t... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 142,650 | 143,150 |
a mistake in the translation. I requested that the witness Pancke be called Wednesday morning. I have just been informed that the Interpreter spoke about Thursday. I only want to correct this mistake. THE PRESIDENT:I think it was Wednesday; that was my understanding. DR. SCHWARZ:Thank you. MR. SHILLER:Your Honor, the P... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 143,100 | 143,600 |
force, or did they go voluntarily? A.They were taken away from their home by force. Q.How were these people kept in the areas to which they were take A.The camp was in a shcool, in Marburg on the Drau, and they were separated from their surroundings by a barbed-wire fence. Q.Witness, how many people were deported in th... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 143,550 | 144,050 |
shown to the defense. The Defense have not yet seen them. After all, when the witness is being examined about these things, the pictures should also be shown to the defense. MR. SHILLER:Your Honors, 14 copies of this picture were left with the Defense Information Center at 11:30 this morning. However, if defense counse... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 144,000 | 144,500 |
us was taken. THE PRESIDENT:You may ask the witness that on crossexamination. DR. FROESCHMANN:I only wanted to clarify a mistake which has apparently been made. If I understood the witness correctly before, this was in August of 1941. However, this picture shows snow on the ground. THE PRESIDENT:You will have an opport... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 144,450 | 144,950 |
AAfter this poster was displayed the people were not given any particular sort of notification. QWell, if the police went to a home and told the people that they were to be deported, how long were they allowed to have in order to gather their clothing and things like that? AWell,if their things had not been packed yet ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 144,900 | 145,400 |
units also took such transports to Germany. QWitness, can you give the Tribunal an approximate figure for the total deported during this action? THE PRESIDENT:If he did it would be simply a guess, wouldn't it? MR. SCHILLER:Very well. BY MR. SCHILLER: QWitness, is this picture which bears on the back the NumberNO-5290-A... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 145,350 | 145,850 |
with the sick people? AThe older people and those who were sick were taken in a special transport and were sent to a camp in Buch, in Bavaria. QWitness, do you know to whom this camp belonged? ANo, I don't. QApproximately how many people were there who fell in this category? AI do not know the exact number but there ma... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 145,800 | 146,300 |
what this picture represents. A.This picture shows the arrival of the train at Frohnleiten and it shows the children getting off the train. Q.Witness, is this picture which bears on the back the number NO-5289-C known to you? A.Yes. Q.Witness, when and where was this picture taken? A.This picture also was taken on the ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 146,250 | 146,750 |
and that is why I asked you the precise question as to how you know about it; were you present when these infants were taken away from their parents? A.I was present; we took these families to the camp; and afterwards we were told by our comrades that these children had been taken away from their parents. We did not ha... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 146,700 | 147,200 |
1947, 0930-1630, Justice Wyatt Presiding. THE MARSHAL:Persons in the court room will please find their seats. The Honorable, the Judges of Military Tribunal I. Military Tribunal I is now in session. God save the United States of America and this honorable Tribunal. There will be order in the court. May it please your H... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 147,150 | 147,650 |
Q.You probably mean the chief of the civilian administration. A.Yes. Q.Well, may I again go briefly into the individual actions. Who has ordered this first action to be carried out according to your opinion? A.It was not known to us just who ordered that action. We were only executing orders in that case. Q.The Prosecu... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 147,600 | 148,100 |
know whether this was the case. Q.And these people then were sent to the camp at Reichenburg on the Save River. Besides the fact that they were surrounded by barbed wire, do you know whether they were treated very badly there. A.I don't know that because we did not have anything to do with this camp. Q.It varied; that ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 148,050 | 148,550 |
did you give the Prosecution any different figures before? A.Not as far as I know. Q.I have an affidavit, only in the English language though, which was given by you, and if I correctly understood the contents of this affidavit, then at the time you stated that your particular unit in the course of the first action had... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 148,500 | 149,000 |
to find that out. We were only told that these people were so-called politically unreliable persons. Q.As far as the first action was concerned, were some of the deported people sent to Germany? A.No. Q.Who actually had the executive authority with regard to the entire action; you don't know? A.No. Q.Was the SS used in... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 148,950 | 149,450 |
these children were separated from the families? Did you know at all what child belonged to what father and what mother? A.We did not know that precisely in individual cases because after all we had only seen their parents for a half hour or an hour. However, we still could remember individual children from the transpo... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 149,400 | 149,900 |
you cannot say that this person is a member of the SS and the other is a member of the SD, of the Security Police. A.I only know the uniforms of the SS. Q.Therefore, you don't know the difference between the uniform of the SS and the uniform of the Security Police. A.No. Q.I must put something else to you. It was put t... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 149,850 | 150,350 |
I merely would like to know the name of the witnesses' superior officer and of the higher SS and police leader. THE PRESIDENT:Well, ask him and let's move on. BY MR. SHILLER: Q.What was the name of your superior officer? A.My superior officer was a captain by the name of Schmutzler, and he in turn was subordinate to a ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 150,300 | 150,800 |
tell the Tribunal during the course of which action you procured this document ? A.This document also deals with the second action. MR. SHILLER:Your Honor, I should like to have Document No. NO5248 marked for identification as Prosecution Exhibit No.306. THE PRESIDENT:Let it be so marked. BY MR. SHILLER: Q.This is Docu... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 150,750 | 151,250 |
and public health, and from the end of March, 1940 on, I was first head of the department and then I was the Group Leader for the ethnic questions and public health. Q.Were you chief of Amt III-B of the RSHA? A.I was in charge of the Group III-B of the RSHA, the Reich Security Main Office. Q.How long were you chief of ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 151,200 | 151,700 |
matters, what affairs did Amt III-B and the Main Staff Office work together? A.The spheres of work in which this contact existed were as follows: Questions of resettlement, questions of expulsion, questions of re-Germanization, questions pertaining to the DVL, the German People's List and questions of citizenship and n... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 151,650 | 152,150 |
as far as the immediate plan was concerned. QCan you tell us in which territories the plan was carried out? AThis plan was carried out only in the incorporated Eastern territories. QWas it also carried out in the so-called Government General? AI believe that the resettlement measures which were carried out in the Gover... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 152,100 | 152,600 |
have to deal with VOMI? AWe had contact with VOMI in questions concerning the German ethnic groups, secondly in questions pertaining to German folkdom in the territories which were occupied during the war, then, also in questions pertaining to the work of national security. QWhat were the problems or questions concerni... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 152,550 | 153,050 |
those persons with whom we only dealt occasionally. A certain regular contact existed with the members of the Race Office. That was Schulz and Hauwers. We would have occasional contact with Hofmann, Hildebrandt and Schwalm. QCan you enumerate the subject matters in regard to which you have to deal with the SS Race and ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 153,000 | 153,500 |
when he was Higher SS and Police Leader in Danzig - West Prussia. QDid you have to deal with the defendant Hildebrandt while he was Higher SS and Police Leader fer Danzig - West Prussia? AYes. Q In regard to what matters? QAt the time when Hildebrandt was in Danzig - West Prussia, he did have great difficulties with th... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 153,450 | 153,950 |
of Litzmannstadt, and as such I was not working in Litzmannstadt myself - as I only went there on official trips - he was in charge there, and he had the supervision there. QWe are coming now to different subject matters. Was the resettlement of ethnic Germans closely connected with the expulsion and deportation of Pol... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 153,900 | 154,400 |
the resettlement was concerned in the incorporated territories, the so-called resettlement or settlement staff was the one that was in charge. QTo what organization were the resettlement staffs - Ansiedlung subordinated? AThe resettlement staffs were subordinated to the representation of the Reich Commissioner for the ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 154,350 | 154,850 |
one Gau was carried out by the Main Staff Office. QHave you ever observed an action concerning deportation of Poles and resettlement of ethnic Germans? AYes. In the summer of 1940, I was present at one of these resettlement actions because I wanted to gain an impression myself as to how the procedure was. QWill you tel... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 154,800 | 155,300 |
up by relatives of theirs. QWhy were they afraid to be deported to the Government General? AIt can be understood that these people wanted to stay in the territories where they used to have their former home, tories because they had their relatives there, and because a farmer likes his hoemland anyway, and also because ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 155,250 | 155,750 |
Staff Office pay for the activities of UWZ? A.I was not active in the administration of the agencies of the Chief of the Security Police. From a conference of a general administration nature of the RSHA in the finance administrative office there, I do remember that there was a special account entitled Reich Commissar f... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 155,700 | 156,200 |
A.I can't recall anything concerning concentration camps but I believe something was mentioned about labor camps with some sort of military construction projects. I believe Ghettos too were mentioned. Q.Who participated in that conference of January 1940? A.The Circle of participants was rather large; according to my e... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 156,150 | 156,650 |
Staff Office present? A.Yes. I know for certain that Fehndrich was present. Then Schubert also, according to my belief and Betke. There must have been several others there but I can't remember all these names in detail. Q.Was VOMI represented? A.I don't think so. Q. RSHA? A.I couldn't tell you that with certainty any m... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 156,600 | 157,100 |
SS Police Leaders as the representatives for the Reich Commissar for Strengthening of Germanism; then according to the basic principle the Security Police had some sort of a police supervision over persons eligible for re-Germanization and finally the care of the resettlers as I mentioned before which had been planned ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 157,050 | 157,550 |
many, many years ago their ancestors came to Greece and something was mentioned in connection with the fact that they were to be taken back to Germany. Whether they were taken back to Germany actually I couldn't tell you for certain. Q:Do you know whether any resettlement of ethnic Germans from Russia took place after ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 157,500 | 158,000 |
and it seems to the Tribunal that you should be able to answer them more directly. Court No. I, Case No. VIII. BY MR. SCHWENK: QWitness, would you say that all those ethnic Germans from Russia were asked whether they would like to go to Germany voluntarily before they were brought to Germany? AI wasn't personally prese... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 157,950 | 158,450 |
Then a final decision was made and that final decision consisted of several categories; there were the so-called "O" cases, "A" cases and then there were certain cases which were either called "S" cases or "F" cases; they were special cases which varied once in a while and where a decision from the higher authorities w... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 158,400 | 158,900 |
were the resettlement measures which were carried out in those areas. QDid the Main Staff Office participate in these acts against the Slovenes? AThe Main Staff Office participated in the second procedure which was the deportation of Slovenes in connection with the resettlement of Court No. I, Case No. VIII. of Gottsch... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 158,850 | 159,350 |
corrected. Some of these errors distort the original meaning to such a degree that the opposite of what has been said was taken down. In some cases RuSHA has for instance been mixed up RSHA. Thus, distorted evidence has been submitted to the Tribunal. Tribunal I ruled, however, that cumulative evidence shall no longer ... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 159,300 | 159,800 |
activity not confined" in the middle of page 673 of the English transcript (middle of page 654 of the German transcript) should read "Your activity" instead of "There". 9) The second next answer on the same page:" RuSHA exercised control over EWZ" should read "RSHA" (Reich Security Main Office.) . 10) The question:"Wan... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 159,750 | 160,250 |
Do you remember what happened? Witness, we were discussing the deportation actions against partisans in Yugoslavia. Do you remember what happened to the wives and children of those partisans? AThe wives and children of partisans, that is members of partisan families, as already mentioned by me this morning, were deport... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 160,200 | 160,700 |
according to which the population in the area was to acquire German citizenship, and having acquired German citizen ship, the male inhabitants could be conscripted for labor and military service. QYou say they could be drafted; what do you mean? Court No. I, Case No. VIII. AAccording to German regulations they were dra... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 160,650 | 161,150 |
QDo you know what happened to the property of the deported Slovenes, Luxembourgians, Alsatians, and Lorrainians? AI believe that a decree existed on the subject whereby--in any case, in Luxembourg--the German Resettlement Trustee Company had to safeguard this property with the aim that if the respective persons were fi... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 161,100 | 161,600 |
ethnic German and who was not? AYes. QWhy was it necessary, then, to subject members of DVL-III and IV to Germanization? AThe concept of Germanization is incorrectly applied in this connection, and was never applied in this connection. This involved persons who, partly or entirely, were of German stock and who, only in... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 161,550 | 162,050 |
in charge of the so-called Einsatz Commandos? ANo; my chief of Office, Ohlendorf, from the summer of 1941, until the summer of 1942, was Chief of Einsatzgruppe D. QAnd had you ever read his reports which he sent to the RSHA in his capacity as Chief of Einsatz Commando D? AYes. QDid those reports contain the number of s... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 162,000 | 162,500 |
handled under the chairmanship of Greifelt. Q.What were the tasks of this reviewing court in general? That is, which cases did it have to deal with, and which cases were assigned to and reserved for this first chamber? A.First of all, the highest reviewing court dealt, in general, with all those cases which represented... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 162,450 | 162,950 |
results of a registration of ethnic Germans to the Main Staff Office. Furthermore, in questions of Ersatzentscheide--namely, decisions determining allocations--Himmler, in some cases, had to be applied to for his personal decision. These problems had to be discussed with the Main Staff Office. Q.Now, on the question of... | Harvard: RuSHA Case | 162,900 | 163,400 |
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