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most cases tho saying applies: Neither he nor his parents have sinned. And not only complete idiots or other absolutely unworthy life is concerned. There are those among them who can work from time to time in field and garden and in workshops, such as the epileptics. And they were not only inmates of state institutions... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 495,000 | 495,500 |
the Prosecution, is only contained in part in our Document book, so that we are completely unable to follow the Prosecution. I therefore request that the Prosecution furnish us with a complete Document. MR. HOCHWALD:The counsel for Defense will receive a complete copy of this Document. THE PRESIDENT:The counsel for the... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 495,450 | 495,950 |
Reich Concordate, to prevent an injury, which in my opinion threatens our nation and to preserve for our reputation of being a civilized nation. We understand, if in wartime extraordinary measures are taken in order to guarantee the security of the country and the nourishing of the people. We tell the people that they ... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 495,900 | 496,400 |
never bring children into the world so they can be put into the bottling machine." You hear old folks say, 'Don't send me to a state hospital.' After the feeble-minded have been finished off, the next useless actors whose turn will come are the old people." THE PRESIDENT:Won't you read a little more slowly? The counsel... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 496,350 | 496,850 |
document. "To the Chancellery of the Fuehrer, care of Obordienstleiter Brack or deputy, I send you herewith as other evidence the copy of a petition made in Cologne on 28.8.2941 by the bishops of the church provinces of Cologne and Paderborn. Heil Hitler, by order, to the Chancellery, 3 October 1941." The next document... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 496,800 | 497,300 |
Prosecution Exhibit 406, and has again the letterhead Viktor Brack, Oberdienstleiter, dated Berlin, 4 August 1941, to State Secretary Dr. Freisler, Reich Ministry of Justice, Berlin. "Dear party comrade Freisler, Reichsleiter Bouhler, who at present is absent from Berlin, commissioned me to express has gratitude for se... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 497,250 | 497,750 |
SEBRING:The other is to the Reichminister of Justice. MR. HOCHWALD:Yes sir, but in the text you see, "Permit me to inform you of the second letter I have sent to the Reichminister of the Interior." JUDGE SEBRING:And you maintain then, that this letter of 19 July 1940 - MR HOCHWALD:Yes sir. JUDGESEBRING: --is the one re... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 497,700 | 498,200 |
country even in families of high mental or moral standing. This is to some extent a consequence of intermarriage among relatives as a result of the long seclusion of the country. Thus, through these extermination measures against institutional patients a great many families even of the intelligentsia are affected. The ... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 498,150 | 498,650 |
air raids. I, therefore, approached Dr. Karl Brandt and asked him to put an insane asylum at my disposal and to protect my patients insofar that no local authorities should be allow to take over this place and to use it as a general hospital. He then put an insane asylum in Thuringia at my disposal and promised me that... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 498,600 | 499,100 |
of the Interior dated 22 August 36 regarding the application of the law for the prevention of descendants with hereditary diseases, Civil Service doctors are instructed to consult with Hereditary Health Law being instituted against a party member. They will do so before making an application for sterilization on the gr... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 499,050 | 499,550 |
concerning Hereditary Health which has to be put before the Gauleiter. All matters of hereditary health will be treated as urgent and secret. "Particular attention will be drawn in each case to the obligation of maintaining secrecy. "I request that reports be made to me from time to time regarding experience gained in ... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 499,500 | 500,000 |
the questionnaires which were used; we have put in the dry form letters under the letterhead of one of the three code names ordering transports to be shipped to the extermination centers; we have seen the transport lists? we have seen the sterotyped letters which were sent by the Extermination Centers to the relatives ... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 499,950 | 500,450 |
the names of those Jews who were exterminated at Bernburg from the Camp Commander and was ordered to issue falsified statements of death. I obeyed this order. This particular action was executed under the code name of 1/4 of 13'. I visited Bernburg on one occasion to arrange for the cremation of two inmates who died in... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 500,400 | 500,900 |
Israel appears, those indicate Jewish inmates. Dropping down to the third name from the bottom of the first page, we find Markuso, Esriel, Warschau, indicating a Polish National, and the last name on the first page, Pollak, Heinrich from Lemberg in Poland. On page ten of the Document Book we find again Jews listed with... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 500,850 | 501,350 |
blood), Jew, Jewish, half-breed of first or second degree. Negro (half-breed), Gypsy (half-breed), etc.", and on the same line is a place for nationality. If it should be urged by defense counsel that the euthcnasia program applied only to German Nationals, then why include a blank on the questionnaire for nationality.... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 501,300 | 501,800 |
first half of January, 1942, is designated for this examination for the concentration camps Flossenburg, Gross-Rosen, Neuengamme, Niederhagen." I might say parenthetically that the word "Doctors' - Commission" is very important, because it is the contention of the Prosecution, and it shall be proved, that the Doctors' ... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 501,750 | 502,250 |
work. These forms are to be mimeographed -and to be filled out. The answering of single questions are taken up in this sample which are underlined in red and only these questions have to be answered. Relative to these single questions, the following explanation is given: "The question 'physically incurable ailment' is ... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 502,200 | 502,700 |
concentration camp. The list which begins on page 20 is the list referred to in the document which I have just read. The inmates number check out - 293. So, we see that this list is one prepared in the concentration camp Gross-Rosen before the Doctors'-Commission had arrived and I suggest that it was made out by the ca... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 502,650 | 503,150 |
under that we see"Jewish who were shirkers". The only thing that means is that they felt they had some Jews who were Lazy and wouldn't work. "Jewish who were shirkers" and "Jewish who defiled the race" down at the bottom, Jews, of course, are all thrown into a separate category from everyone else as we see on page 23. ... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 503,100 | 503,600 |
a very interesting document. It is another letter from Liebehenschel to the concentration camp commander of Gross-Rosen, SS Obersturmbannfuehrer Roedl, Subject: Medical commission, concerning "Our letter of November 12, 1941" dated Oranienburg, 10 January 1942: "In pursuance of the above rule you are informed that the ... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 503,550 | 504,050 |
"In our opinion the 24 March 1942 would be the most suitable day of arrival, because in the meantime transports of inmates from other concentration camps will arrive, and a period of interim is necessary for us in order to be able to carry out all this work. "If a transfer by omnibus should be impossible we suggest tha... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 504,000 | 504,500 |
33, was of Polish nationality by reference back to the list compiled by the concentration camp doctors in Gross-Rosen in December 1941. JUDGE SEBRING:Mr. McHaney, at the beginning you referred to the Inmate No. 2 and referred us back to page 9. MR. MCHANEY:No. 2, page 9, that is correct. JUDGE SEBRING:Have you told us ... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 504,450 | 504,950 |
have four inmates of Polish nationality, No. 2, No. 21, No, 22, and No. 23. On the next page, page 34, the inmate listed as No. 31 was Polish, No. 42 was Polish. JUDGE SEBRING:No. 42? MR. MC HANEY:No. 42, yes, Sir. No. 47 was Polish; No. 51 was Czech; No. 66, Polish. On the next page, that is, page 35, No. 72 was Czech... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 504,900 | 505,400 |
personally, Bernburg: "In reply to your letter of 3 March 1942, we wish to inform you that only a transport by rail can be considered, no suitable vehicles being avail able. The fact, however, that a great number of the inmates are not in a condition to march, would necessitate their transport from the railroad station... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 505,350 | 505,850 |
Prosecution Exhibit 410, the list of the 57 inmates transferred on March 18, 1932. That exhibit begins on page 7 of the Document book. We have already covered that exhibit and the fact constitutes the second transport of 57 inmates. I have counted them and there are precisely 57 names in that list. This is a very revea... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 505,800 | 506,300 |
(Saale), where they will remain. Heil Hitler! Hirche." THE PRESIDENT:The Tribunal would like to examine the original of that document, counsel. MR. McHANEY:This particular document which I have just read is indicated as being on Page 27 of the original which the Tribunal now has before it. The next document and the nex... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 506,250 | 506,750 |
Prof. Heyde and Herr Brack had allotted to each of us individually. I am working together with Dr. Wischer, the chief physician of Waldheim. "I ordered the porter of the Kaiserhof to send off the registered letter, because already at 14:30 we started with our work in Bethel (a car-ride of 20 minutes.) Each group consis... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 506,700 | 507,200 |
testified under direct examination that Hoven was the camp physician sometime during the year 1941, and he was pressed to a considerable degree on cross-examination with the question, "wasn't it possible that Hoven wasn't the camp physician until 1942? This letter of Dr. Memmecke, dated 25 November 1941, says Dr. Hoven... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 507,150 | 507,650 |
the files. If there were no other crimes involved in this Euthanasia program I should think that the conduct of such examinations on the part of the doctors who were selection the people to be exterminated per se, is enough to take this nothing short of murder. It is ridiculous to suppose that these doctors connected a... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 507,600 | 508,100 |
Then fellows a rather long description about his trouble with transportation in wartime Germany which I will eliminate and drop to the latter part of this first paragraph on page 47, where he states: "I met Professor Nitsche in the Bellevuestrasse who told me that I was expected, especially Dr. Hefelmann requested to h... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 508,050 | 508,550 |
newly established or recognized institution will be thoroughly furthered especially by the scientific cooperation and counsel of Schneider and Meinze. According to present plans, Idstehn is taken into consideration. I have to work with my special department for children which should be still further expanded in close c... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 508,500 | 509,000 |
January was postponed until the 6 February because until then the relief action in the Last will be finished. The best and sincerest greetings to my beloved , golden mummy, signed: your faithful Fritz." Letter No. 4 is dated Heidelberg, 15 June 42: "Just now I finished the thing for Berlin in order to send it registere... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 508,950 | 509,450 |
Viktor Brack, and after Brack left to go into the army or at least left Berlin, Blankenburg took over many of his activities in Berlin. That was in the year 1942, as I recall. The letter continues on Page 50: "Yes, sweetheart, that shows that my connections to Berlin are alive and kept up; that is very important. The m... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 509,400 | 509,900 |
record, but I have made no point of it because there is nothing on the face of the document which indicates that it had anything necessarily to do with the matter under consideration. I think at this point, if the Tribunal please, we will ask that the witness, Olga Eyer, be brought to the stand to testify. She, of cour... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 509,850 | 510,350 |
of the details of medical experiments performed on human beings, are you not? AYes. QWill you tell the Tribunal what you know about experiments on yellow fever? AThe yellow fever experiments were carried out until 1942. They were stopped in 1942. QDo you know where Prof. Haagen carried out these yellow fever experiment... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 510,300 | 510,800 |
virulent typhus. Q.Do you know from your own knowledge whether or not any of the prisoners subjected to these typhus experiments died as a result thereof? A.I can't say. Q.However, you do not exclude the possibility that prisoners died as a result of these experiments, do you? A.I assume that it is a dangerous disease.... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 510,750 | 511,250 |
in Berlin? A.I do not know. I assume so. Q.Miss Eyer, did you state in your affidavit that Hagen visited Rostock in Berlin? A.Yes. Q.Then, Miss Eyer, why have you changed your testimony in regard to Hagen visiting Rostock at Berlin? A.I confused tho name with Professor Seiss. I remembered that Afterwards. Q.Then, Miss ... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 511,200 | 511,700 |
COUNSEL, DR. OTTO NELTE: Q.Witness, have you deposed an affidavit? A.I don't understand Q.You have made an affidavit? A.Yes, I made a report. Q.You have made a report? A.Yes. Q.With whom have you discussed this report prior to writing it? A.Mr. -- I don't know the name any more; Mr. Tavarger I think. Q.How often has he... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 511,650 | 512,150 |
give give any exact dates. Q.Now, you have spoken of research orders, and on one occasion about research assignment of the Luftwaffe, and then by research by assignment of the Reich Research Council, and you have stated that reports were submitted to these agencies every three months. A.Yes, three months. Q.Then you ha... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 512,100 | 512,600 |
I know that. QTherefore, you will understand that your testimony as a witness is extremely important? AYes. QThat you realize your own responsibility? AYes. QYou surely realize, also, that the correspondence which is not here before the Tribunal, the testimony about such correspondence is extremely important? AYes. QNo... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 512,550 | 513,050 |
discussed the possibility they were concerned with the terrible experiments. A That may be, but we often received letters from Professor Rostock. QHowever, you cannot state that they were letters about these experiments on human beings? ANo, I cannot say that. QThank you. That is what I understood. I do not have any fu... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 513,000 | 513,500 |
that correct? AYes. That may have been later. I don't know exactly -- after every three months. QI am now asking you - did three months reports of importance at similar intervals, which were addressed to the Luftwaffe - did they not deal with experiments of consulting physicians where they discussed observations in gre... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 513,450 | 513,950 |
and that this epidemic had been brought into Natzweiler from the outside. QNo. A report was made on the typhus research but since I do not understand enough about the report I can't talk about it - I can't explain it to you but it did indicate that experiments were conducted on human beings. QWell, you mean that this w... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 513,900 | 514,400 |
Blome in connection with these research assignments? AI do not remember the name but it may very well be. Sometimes I have a poor memory. ANo. QI thank you. I do not have any further questions. DR.FRITZ (Defense counsel for defendant Rose): Miss Eyer, I have only two questions to ask you. When you were interrogated by ... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 514,350 | 514,850 |
that Professor Rose came to Strasbourg for the first time in 1943, to visit Professor Haagen. AThat is possible. QI do not have any further questions. DOCTORMARX (Defense Counsel for defendant Schroeder): Pardon me, Mr. President, I request that I can ask the witness some further questions. THE PRESIDENT:You may interr... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 514,800 | 515,300 |
they were stopped. QAs far as I know this was connected with the termination of the Africa campaign. AYes. If it was 1943 that was 1943. QThat was 1943 then. Thank you. THE PRESIDENT:Any further cross examination of this witness? Is there any redirect examination by the Prosecution? REDIRECT EXAMINATION MR. HARDY:Miss ... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 515,250 | 515,750 |
questions, the witness may be excused. (The witness was excused.) MR. McHANEY:I would now like to offer DocumentNO 891, on page 52 of the English Document Book, as Prosecution Exhibit 414. This is a memorandum or directive from the Reich Minister of the Interior, Berlin, 6 September 1944. It is addressed to: (a) The Re... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 515,700 | 516,200 |
transferred as from 1 October 1944 to the Central Account Office. "5. After four weeks of the registration in the collecting institution, at the latest, a short report on the prognosis of the case and on the question of working ability has to be sent to the head of the Central Financial Clearing Office. It is the task ... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 516,150 | 516,650 |
tried were sentenced to be hanged by the neck until dead, that one was confined to hard labor for life and one for 35 years, one for 30 years, and one for 25. The Court found that it had jurisdiction to try these individuals for the murder of persons of nationality other then that of the trying Tribunal. In other words... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 516,600 | 517,100 |
being duly sworn through the interpreter, made and subscribed the following statement. "My name is Philipp Blug, I live in Frickhofen, Germany; I am a cousin of Alfons Klein. Since 1940 I had been in the Hadamar Mental Institution. There I has to take care of the switchboard until February 1943, when I took ever the bu... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 517,050 | 517,550 |
been forty or fifty in this transport. They were brought from Limburg in trucks. Everybody in the institution knew, that a large transport of Russians and Poles was to arrive from Limburg. I was present when these Russians and Poles arrived, and they were brought to ward 11a and 1b. Ruoff gave injections to these Russi... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 517,500 | 518,000 |
from the Hadamar case. It is a statement of Heinrich Ruoff. The next Document, Your Honors, is No. 729 on Pa?c 99; also one of the Prosecution Exhibits, which is an interrogation of the witness Frederick Dickmann. THE PRESIDENT:What will be the number of that Exhibit? MR. HOCHWALD:This is Prosecution Exhibit 423, sir. ... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 517,950 | 518,450 |
got that second injection. When I was at the station next morning, I asked a male nurse, whose name was Schaaf, how Kessler was getting on: the named Schaaf showed me the victim Kessler, who still lay naked on the floor of the tiled room. The temperature in the room was ice-cold. Schaaf told me that Kessler had receive... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 518,400 | 518,900 |
Admission of partly Jewish minors to the Institution: "By order of the Reich Minister of Interior I set up in the District Mental Institution Hadamar, District Limburg/Lahn an educational institution, to which all Jewish or partly Jewish children and youths, who are now under institutional care, in reformatories or in ... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 518,850 | 519,350 |
various institutions of the district agency of Nassau and from there to the district mortal institution at Hadaman and Nassau. The order for the 'transfer' of insane persons did not pass through my office either but to my recollection came directly from the Ministry of the Interior to the institutions in question. As f... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 519,300 | 519,800 |
my inquiry of 12 November 1943 to Hadamar any earlier because in the meantime on 22 to 23 October 1943, the office buildings of the district administration in Kassel had been destroyed by an air raid and as a resuly all commercial traffic was held up. Also all the files of the administration, in particular those concer... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 519,750 | 520,250 |
character of the interrogation by the Prosecutor was very confidential and that statements were made which were certainly not meant for the court. DR. HOCHWALD:As the document itself shows, this was a statement made in the presence of a German public prosecutor and in the presence of a court reporter. I suggest and Cou... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 520,200 | 520,700 |
DR. HOCHWALD:But we have a further document. The document room of CCC has a certificate which is not attached to the document in German which says that we obtained it; we certified the true copy. MR. McHANEY:If the Tribunal, please, we will withdraw the offer until such time as the certificate is attached. It certainly... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 520,650 | 521,150 |
the document we now offer is an unsworn - statement of one Kurt Gerstein. It was admitted before the IMT- THE PRESIDENT:What document is that, Mr. McHaney? MR. MC HANEY:It is 1553PS beginningon page 126. This document was admitted before the International Military Tribunal as an exhibit of the Republic of France, No. 3... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 521,100 | 521,600 |
it was taken before two United States Army officers and was sent through with a covering memorandum. DR.SERVATIUS (Counsel for Karl Brandt): Dr. Servatius, for Karl Brandt, Mr. President, I attach importance to cross-examining this witness and I formally make the application that witness be called as seen as he is foun... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 521,550 | 522,050 |
to enter the medical-technology branch of the SS Fuehrungshauptamt, Medical branch of the Waffen SS, Antsgruppe D, Hygiene Department. Within this branch, I chose so for myself the job of immediately constructing disinfecting apparati and filters for drinking water for the troops, the prison camps and the concentration... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 522,000 | 522,500 |
who were here on August 15 - the day before yesterday - ordered that I accompany personally all those who are to see the installations. Then Professor Pfannenstiel asked: What does the Fuehrer say?' Then Globocnik, now Chief of Police and SS for the Adriatic Riviera to Trieste, answered: "Quicker, quicker, carry out th... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 522,450 | 522,950 |
the first train will arrive. And indeed, a few minutes later the first train came in from Lemberg. 45 cars, containing 8,700 persons; 1,450 of whom were already dead on their arrival. Behind the little barbed wire openings, children, yellow, scared half to death, women, men. The train arrives: 200 Ukranians, forced to ... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 522,900 | 523,400 |
their murderers. Five lashes into her face, dealt by the whip of Police Captain Wirth himself, chase her into the gas chamber. Many of them say their prayers, others ask: who will give us the water for our death? Within the chambers, the SS press the people closely together, Captain Wirth had ordered: "Fill them up ful... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 523,350 | 523,850 |
urine, the legs covered with excrement and menstrual bleed. Everywhere among the others, tee bodies of babies and children. But there is not time! Two dozen workers are engaged in checking the mouths, opening them by means of iron hooks. "Geld to the left, without gold to the right." Others check anus and genitals - to... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 523,800 | 524,300 |
propose any other kind of gas chamber in Berlin, to leave everything the way it was. I lied - as I did in each case all the time - that prussic acid had already deteriorated in shipping and had become very dangerous, that I was therefore obliged to bury it. This was done right away, The next day, Captain Wirth's car to... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 524,250 | 524,750 |
whether this document was presented through the International Military Tribunal Number and if it was taken into the record. As long as I am still in doubt, the document appears still as unsuitable to be presented here as evidence. I made a mistake before. I was reffering to the International Military Tribunal. THE PRES... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 524,700 | 525,200 |
counsel for the prosecution any further argument in support of the admission of this exhibit? MR. HOCHWALD:The only argument is that I was informed that everyone who is heard in such a case is warned that he has to say the truth; and I do think that it is absolutely the procedure and is a very similar one to the proced... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 525,150 | 525,650 |
statement on tho murdering of ill and aged people in Germany. Annex B. "1. The murdering can be traced back to a secret law which was released sometime in summer, 1940. "2. Besides the Chief Physician of the Reich, Dr. L. Conti, the Reichsfuehrer SS Himmler, the Reichs Minister of the Interior Dr. Frick as well as othe... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 525,600 | 526,100 |
their own flat: the competent "political lender" reports then for welfare purposes; then a physician, usually an SS doctor who establishes "the fact" that the old people are mentally deficient, appears; he suggest in Court that they are to be put under tutelage and that they are to be sent to a nursing home. This sugge... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 526,050 | 526,550 |
called as a witness, Mr. McHaney? MR. MC HANEY:Yes, he is, Your Honor. JUDGE SIEBRING:Defense counsel then will have opportunity to examine Menecke with respect to these letters if he so chooses. DR. GAWLIK:Mr. president, it is my opinion that the Prosecution then should Question the witness about the contents of these... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 526,500 | 527,000 |
were tried for the crime of murder, Witness? A.Yes. I was tried for murder. Q.What is the status of your case now? A.I have been called here as a witness, at this time. I have not made an appeal up to now. Q.Witness, will you tell us, briefly, something about your personal history? A.In 1939, I joined the Waffen-SS. Th... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 526,950 | 527,450 |
Dr. Blankenburg in Berlin. A.No. This time it was a meeting. It was a meeting in the Reich Chancellery in which about 50 or 60 chief physicians and directors of the German insane institutions participated. Furthermore, representatives from the Reich Chancellery, Ministry of Interior, and Ministry of Justice were also p... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 527,400 | 527,900 |
Chancelle at least that is what I considered him to be. Q.What was done at this meeting? A.It was a meeting about the Euthanasia question, and execution of these measures in the German Asylums on insane people. Q.Well, was any explanation given of the Euthanasia program at this meeting? A.I have not quite understood. W... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 527,850 | 528,350 |
I understand that Eichberg was to be made a collecting station for insane persons? A.Yes, that is what it was. Q.And that then these insane persons were to be sent from Eichberg to the extermination station? A.Yes, they were to be sent from us to these institutions. Q.And on what basis was it to be determined that this... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 528,300 | 528,800 |
name came to my attention afterwards. However, I have never visited the institute. QWell, did you hear that Grafeneck was also an extermination institute like Hadamar? AYes. QDid you hear of the same thing about Brandenburg? ANo, I don't know that name. QOr Hartheimer? AYes. QOr Sonnenstein? AYes. QOr Bernburg? AYes. Q... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 528,750 | 529,250 |
- Resumed DIRECT EXAMINATION (Continued) By Mr. McHANEY: QWitness, let's go back for a moment to the meeting which you state was held in the summer of 1941 in the Chancellery of the Fuehrer. Do you mean by the Chancellery of the Fuehrer, Beuhler's office? Witness, you stated that in the summer of 1941, a meeting was he... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 529,200 | 529,700 |
concerned with the Euthanasia applied to adults? A.Yes. These were the organizations which carried out Euthanasia on grown-ups. Q.You have mentioned the names of Prof. Hagener and Prof. Nietsche; do you knew whether or not they were so-called top experts in the Euthanasia program as applied to adults? A.As far as I kno... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 529,650 | 530,150 |
and then there was an accompanying letter which would be sent to the individual children's department or the corresponding committees in the Reich Q.Well now, witness, we want to make the operation cf this children's program perfectly clear. Wasn't it required of doctors, midwives and other people who were present at t... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 530,100 | 530,600 |
Dr. Karl Brandt; and I know the connection to Bauhler. Brack, Blankenburg and Hegener is known to me. They were working together with Heyde and Nietsche. They in turn had to collaborate with the Reich working committee of the clinic and sanatoriums. Then there is the Stiftung of these institutions; then there is the tr... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 530,550 | 531,050 |
know. Q.Which intermediary department did you not know? A.The individual departments on the channel. I only knew that Dr. Mennecke sent these questionnaires to Berlin, and then during my work with Mennecke I learned that he had connections with Dr. Linden, whom he visited quite often, and with Dr. Nietsche, too, and wi... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 531,000 | 531,500 |
the spring or probably the early summer. Then the patients from other institutes were first of all to go through us as intermediary station and then also to the euthanasia institute at Hadamar. Whilst this particular program was being started up, Hadamar stopped work. That is to say, we were overcrowded considerably, a... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 531,450 | 531,950 |
the time. The others, who had only just fallen ill and who were considered capable of being treated or capable of carrying on work and certain other categories, remained behind. Q.Well, after approximately half of the 1500 patients had been exterminated in Hadamar, did new patients come on to Eichberg? A.Yes. be receiv... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 531,900 | 532,400 |
1941, in Eichberg? A.Nothing was going on there. Q.Do you mean to say that Eichberg had approximately 1500 to 1700 patients from August 1941 until the end of the war? A.No. Later on we passed a large number of our patients on to other asylums such as Gutstein and Hadamar because we were opening other establishments. We... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 532,350 | 532,850 |
medically in charge. This was in 1941. This, of course, remained my firm conviction until 1944, when von Hegener told me, during one of his visits, that this was no longer Professor Brandt who was the leading personality in charge; he was then only speaking about Brack. Q.What about these visits in 1942 and 1943 that y... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 532,800 | 533,300 |
so-called "special authorizations", in these cases, sometimes originated from members of their family or other agencies. Q.From whom did these special authorizations come? The Reich Committee? A.Yes; the Reich Committee, Q.How many of these special authorizations did you receive? A.Approximately 13 to 20. Q.How old wor... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 533,250 | 533,750 |
you have made, Will you repeat it please? A.Our reports consisted of answering six questions, which were put to us by the Reich Committee on a form which we received too. Q.And what were those six questions? A.The first question was: "How many children were admitted from the Reich Committee during the course of that mo... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 533,700 | 534,200 |
upon the receipt of this document? A.That was a collection of these insane and Eastern workers that were not fit for work, and they were to be sent on a transport to an unknown destination. Q.Will you repeat the answer, please, witness? A.That was the order for a collective transport for Insane Eastern workers who were... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 534,150 | 534,650 |
MR. McHANEY:May we have the regular recess at this time? THE PRESIDENT:We will take a recess. (Recess was taken) THE MARSHAL:The Tribunal is again in session. THE PRESIDENT:Does any of the defense counsel desire to cross examine the witness? CROSS EXAMINATION BY: DR. SERVATIUS: (Counsel for Karl Brandt) Q.Witness, what... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 534,600 | 535,100 |
However, we have sent a large number of documents to the Defense Information Center several months ago which have not been presented in evidence, and I can say with respect to this particular document that it has not been offered in evidence by the Prosecution and will not be offered in evidence. Now, if defense counse... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 535,050 | 535,550 |
state the following: On the basis of the authorization of the Fuehrer, In commissioned to carry out the measures and being responsible therefore, gave me necessary directives to my collaborators. Beyond that the decree of certain executive directive does not seem necessary to me." And then comes the signature, I wanted... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 535,500 | 536,000 |
add nothing to the situation as it now appears from the record. The Marshal will recall the witness to the stand. THE PRESIDENT:Counsel may proceed with the cross-examination. Q (By Dr. Servatius) Witness, You have said that you were in Berlin for the purpose of a conference. What you said, later - was that in contradi... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 535,950 | 536,450 |
had to be kept free for other purposes and had to be evacuated and that was the reason? AThe reason for this measure was only touched upon briefly. We were told that these were tasks of the State which had become severely necessary as a result of the war, and there were tasks that were Eugenic, that is right. QHow abou... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 536,400 | 536,900 |
to come frequently. QWere they buses of the Gauleiter's office or who did these buses belong to? AThese buses were owned by the transport company, of the patients' transport company in Berlin. After all, the personnel had remained in part in Hadamar. QWasn't their local personnel there? ANo, there wasn't medical person... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 536,850 | 537,350 |
not have the medical leadership but it was Brack who held that, is that correct? A.Yes. Hegener told me on the occasion of his visit at Eichherg in '44 after the plot on Hitler that Brandt was not the director of the Action anymore, and not the person in charge, as he expressed himself, but that Brack was handling ever... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 537,300 | 537,800 |
a brown square with the name of Blome, connected with the name of Dr. Conti with a green line. Do you know what that means, witness? A.Yes. Q.Well, I am now asking you, can you from your own knowledge say that Professor Blome was connected with the euthanasia program? A.I do not know that from my own knowledge. I only ... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 537,750 | 538,250 |
is that correct A (No answer) QCan you describe, witness, what cases you were concerned with which lead to the euthanasia later on? AThere were all kinds of brain malformations, which also caused a sort of idiocy. They were mostly a multiple disease which caused euthanasia. Instability together with hereditary disease,... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 538,200 | 538,700 |
against the defendant Hove, it will be an important factor just how the defendant Hover behaved towards the non-German inmates. Especially, whether in the case of non-German inmates he committed any crimes. Proper witnesses for the purpose are former non-German inmates of the Concentration Camp Buchenwald, and it is fo... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 538,650 | 539,150 |
have and to see that they are propounded to the witness by some authoritative officer prepared under oath to take the questions and answers of the witness in such interrogatory. If such an interrogatory is prepared, or interrogatories, they first should be submitted to the Prosecution so they may prepare cross interrig... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 539,100 | 539,600 |
participation in the program. WITNESS:May I be permitted here, before I am being interrogated any further, to point out a certain fact? MR. McHANEY:Yes, witness. WITNESS:As a severely sick patient, I have been brought from Frankfurt -on-Main to Nurnberg. I am very exhausted, weak physically. Also in a mental respect ce... | Harvard: Medical Case (Karl Brandt et al.) | 539,550 | 540,050 |
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