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[S1] And then wait for the breath in. And just think about- [S2] Yeah. [S1] Yeah, breathing into the back. Exactly. [S2] It's softer. [S1] It's calmer. [S2] And it relaxes your shoulders as well. [S1] It's relaxing you and it's making you seem calm under pressure, which is when people give you a job, 'cause you seem ca...
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[S1] Ah, okay. So they'll kind of introduce, say what they're going to say, and then say it in an ordered manner. [S2] Exactly. [S1] Ah, see, I, I get in a bit of a panic. I'll try and give as much information as I possibly can to try and appear knowledgeable about the topic. But you're saying it's better to just prior...
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[S1] I mean, if the question's easy, then you probably don't have to do this, but it's, it's when the question's tricky and you go into brain freeze. [S2] Yeah. [S1] It's that moment of three things and it forces you to structure. [S2] And so you need that breath. [S1] Exactly. [S2] To think about the order as well. So...
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[S1] ... an essential part of life. [S2] The telephone calls are hard, aren't they? [S1] Mm-hmm. [S2] That whole thing that we can't see the other person. [S1] You can't see their reaction, so you don't know whether they like what you're saying.
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[S1] It's tricky. And I, the first tip for calls is another actor tip, and it was an actress called Anna Massey, who's no longer with us. She's died, sadly. But she said, "When I'm on the phone to someone, I picture them sitting on a sofa," a bit like this, you know, "sitting at home, and even if I haven't met them, I ...
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[S1] And the iambic, English has what's called really an iambic pentameter, which is like Hamlet. [S2] Yeah. [S1] You know, if you think of to be or not to be, that is the question, there's a kind of de dum, de dum, de dum, de dum. [S2] There's the rhythm, yes. Yeah. [S1] And lots of languages, as you know, you know, S...
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[S1] Hi, my name's Caroline. You know, we're going to be talking about emphasis. I'm hitting with my hand the important words. If they're on the phone, they won't know. [S2] Just as long as they don't forget they're on a Skype call. [S1] Yeah, don't do it on Skype. [S2] [LAUGHS]
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[S1] Great. And what's your final tip? And the final tip of today, actually. [S2] The final tip? The final tip of today is if you are nervous about a call, if you need to make a great impression, stand up. [S1] Stand up. Okay. I always see my dad doing that. My dad is a, is a managing director and he's always marching ...
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[S1] And there's a final tweet to that, which is what voiceover artists do. You know, if you're voicing over a movie like, um, Sing or something- [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] ... they gesture. So they'll be standing in a voiceover studio and they, they go crazy with gesture because what they know is that gesture orchestrates the ...
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[S1] So yes, thank you very, very much for being my guest today. [S2] My pleasure. Thank you. [S1] And remember, be bold for change and make a change in your life and be more confident. Don't forget to connect with me on all of my social media. I've got my Facebook and my Instagram and I will see you soon for another l...
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[S1] Hello everyone, and welcome back to English with Lucy. Today, I've got a very special guest. This is Caroline Goida. [S2] Hello. [S1] And Caroline, would you like to introduce yourself? What do you do?
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[S1] ... to the bar after a show. They have parties before launches, all that kind of thing. She said, "I get really, really nervous." [S2] Okay. [S1] And she had a great tip, which is, first thing you have to do is think about your body. You know, really relax your shoulders, relax your breathing, center your voice. '...
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[S1] And you can just picture his face, can't you? You know, there's the, the, there are the muscles around our eyes that crinkle up when we're with a friend. [S2] Yeah. [S1] It's called a Duchenne smile and it just relaxes us. [S2] Okay. [S1] And, yeah, you try it. It really, really works. [S2] So you kind of close yo...
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[S1] So that's number two. And the third one I would say is, as you walk through the door of a party, just think, "I've only got to be there for five minutes." [S2] Okay. [S1] And this was taught to me by someone who's a real introvert, and she said she, it was another actor, and she said, "I used to really dread parti...
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[S1] And when I'm meeting new people for the first time, I would definitely say it goes up a couple of tones. So, oh, I will be, I'll, I'll be aware of that. [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] Okay, so another big question that I get is about dating. And this came up recently because I made a video about how to say dates in English. A...
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[S1] You taught me years ago, and this is another acting tip, that when you meet someone and you're on a date, what you have to do is think, this is, and this is a real actor's tip, you have to think, "I'm beautiful. Someone loves me. I have a secret." [S2] So these are three things. [S1] Three things you have to think...
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[S1] ... Chris, gives you a bit of a twinkle. [S2] Do you actually have to have a secret? [S1] It helps. [S2] Okay. I'll try to think of one. [S1] I don't think it has to be.
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[S1] Doesn't have to be WikiLeaks level, just, you know, something. Or actors also talk about a naughty thought. [S2] A naughty thought? [S1] A bit of a twinkle. That's a good one. [S2] I have a couple of those. [S1] That's definitely working. So a twinkle in the eyes. And it just, she said, it just gives me a presence...
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[S1] We all do. We all have it. [S2] Before I go out for a date, I don't date much, but when I do, I always look at myself in the mirror beforehand and I think, "Well, that's not right," and maybe he won't find me funny. But I guess if I think about all the good things first. [S1] Exactly. [S2] And recognize those.
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[S1] And then you show you're engaged and that you've been listening, which is important because sometimes you're having a conversation with someone and you can see their eyes glaze over a little bit. [S2] And that's horrible. [S1] Yeah, it's the worst. [S2] It, and it will kill any spark. So having to really listen be...
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[S1] That, I mean, that is really hard. It, as you say, public speaking is bad enough, and doing it in a language where you don't feel safe, where you don't feel that if you go wrong you can escape, is really scary. [S2] Yeah. [S1] So the things I always say to people are, firstly, if you're doing it in a language that...
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[S1] Now that is a tip I really gel with because I, when I speak in my second language, which is Spanish, I will record myself and then I'll listen back to it and I will notice loads of mistakes that I didn't realize that I made at the time. And also you get to know it better. [S2] Exactly. [S1] But I feel a natural in...
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[S1] Like the red arrows, like the, you know, the, the planes that fly in formation. [S2] So you need to take hold of those butterflies and, and channel them into something positive. [S1] Exactly. [S2] Okay. [S1] 'Cause the idea is, I mean, is it for performers as well, for, you know, anybody who's on stage, that adren...
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[S1] Exactly. [S2] So what about tip number two, then? [S1] So breathing is really important in an interview. [S2] Breathing? [S1] Yep, yep. Because what, you know, you get a horrible question, don't you? Think of the moment where someone asks you a really horrible question. [S2] The worst one for me would be, "Describ...
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[S1] Remember to breathe. Now, okay, so how you breathe is important. 'Cause what most of us do when a really horrible question comes is we kinda go, we breathe here, we go, [INHALES] and it's a bit extreme, that, but there's a kind of chest breath that's happening. [S2] Yeah. [S1] That breath is not helping you. What ...
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[S1] And then wait for the breath in. And just think about- [S2] Yeah. [S1] Yeah, breathing into the back. Exactly. [S2] It's softer. [S1] It's calmer. [S2] And it relaxes your shoulders as well. [S1] It's relaxing you and it's making you seem calm under pressure, which is when people give you a job, 'cause you seem ca...
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[S1] Ah, okay. So they'll kind of introduce, say what they're going to say, and then say it in an ordered manner. [S2] Exactly. [S1] Ah, so I, I get in a bit of a panic. I'll try and give as much information as I possibly can to try and appear knowledgeable about the topic. But you're saying it's better to just priorit...
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[S1] ... an essential part of life. [S2] The telephone calls are hard, aren't they? [S1] Mm-hmm. [S2] That whole thing that we can't see the other person. [S1] You can't see their reaction, so you don't know whether they like what you're saying.
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[S1] And the iambic, English has what's called really an iambic pentameter, which is like Hamlet. [S2] Yeah. [S1] You know, if you think of to be or not to be, that is the question, there's a kind of de dum, de dum, de dum, de dum. [S2] There's the rhythm, yeah. [S1] And lots of languages, as you know, you know, Spanis...
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[S1] Hi, my name's Caroline. You know, we're going to be talking about emphasis. I'm hitting with my hand the important words. If they're on the phone, they won't know. [S2] Just as long as they don't forget they're on a Skype call. [S1] Yeah, don't do it on Skype.
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[S1] Great. And what's your final tip? And the final tip of today, actually. [S2] The final tip? The final tip of today is if you are nervous about a call, if you need to make a great impression, stand up. [S1] Stand up. Okay. I always see my dad doing that. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] My dad is a, is a managing director and he'...
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[S1] And there's a final tweet to that, which is what voiceover artists do. You know, if you're voicing over a movie like, um, Sing or something- [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] ... they gesture. So they'll be standing in a voiceover studio and they, they go crazy with gesture because what they know is that gesture orchestrates the ...
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[S1] So yes, thank you very, very much for being my guest today. [S2] My pleasure. Thank you. [S1] And remember, be bold for change and make a change in your life and be more confident. Don't forget to connect with me on all of my social media. I've got my Facebook and my Instagram and I will see you soon for another l...
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[S1] Hello everyone, and welcome back to English with Lucy. Today, I've got a very special guest. This is Caroline Goida. [S2] Hello. [S1] And Caroline, would you like to introduce yourself? What do you do?
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[S1] And I wanted to work in theater, but I didn't want to act. So I ended up training as a voice coach. And by kind of mistake, I found a job I really, really love. And once I'd trained as a voice coach, I was like, "This is actually what I want to do for the rest of my life. It's a great job." But I fell into it real...
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[S1] And what, I saw that you did a TED Talk about confidence. That's actually how I found you. And how did you get into doing a TED Talk? [S2] Well, again, I mean, so often these things happen by accident. I was coaching for TEDx in Brixton. [S1] Oh.
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[S1] And the very brilliant curator there, Stephanie, said, "Well, have you got a talk in you?" And I said, "Yeah, I think so." So I pitched talks, which is how you get into TEDx. They took it on. I did it in 2014, and it's had nearly 3 million views, which is insane. [S2] Wow. Congratulations. [S1] Thank you. [S2] Tha...
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[S1] Well, so I learnt a lot about this a few years back when I was interviewing A-list actors. 'Cause I wrote a book which was talking to A-list actors about confidence. [S2] Okay. [S1] And I would go to people like Helen Mirren and say, "So tell me about confidence," thinking that they knew things, that they were con...
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[S1] ... are so serene, right? [S2] Yeah. [S1] And she said, "When I have to go to a party after a show, you know, actors go,
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[S1] ... to the bar after a show. They have parties before launches, all that kind of thing. She said, "I get really, really nervous." [S2] Okay. [S1] And she had a great tip, which is, first thing you have to do is think about your body. You know, really relax your shoulders, relax your breathing, center your voice. '...
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[S1] And then there are other tips. There's a really good George Clooney one, which also is in the- [S2] Did you meet him? [S1] No, I wish I had. [S2] Oh, what a shame. [S1] He and Johnny Depp were the ones that got away. [S2] [LAUGHS] Damn. [S1] He, his thing when he meets people is that he imagines everybody he meets...
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[S1] And you can just picture his face, can't you? You know, there's the, the, there are the muscles around our eyes that crinkle up when we're with a friend. [S2] Yeah. [S1] It's called a Duchenne smile, and it just relaxes us. [S2] Oh, okay. [S1] And, yeah, you try it. It really, really works. [S2] So you kind of clo...
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[S1] So that's number two. And the third one I would say is, as you walk through the door of a party, just think, "I've only got to be there for five minutes." [S2] Okay. [S1] And this was taught to me by someone who's a real introvert. And she said she, it was another actor, and she said, "I used to really dread parti...
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[S1] And when I'm meeting new people for the first time, I would definitely say it goes up a couple of tones. So, oh, I will be, I'll, I'll be aware of that. [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] Okay, so another big question that I get is about dating. And this came up recently because I made a video about how to say dates in English. A...
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[S1] You taught me years ago, and this is another acting tip, that when you meet someone and you're on a date, what you have to do is think, this is, and this is a real actor's tip, you have to think, "I'm beautiful, someone loves me, I have a secret." [S2] So these are three things. [S1] Three things you have to think...
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[S1] ... Chris, gives you a bit of a twinkle. [S2] Do you actually have to have a secret? [S1] It helps. [S2] Okay. I'll try to think of one. [S1] I don't think it has to be-
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[S1] Doesn't have to be WikiLeaks level, just, you know, something. Or actors also talk about a naughty thought. [S2] A naughty thought? [S1] A bit of a twinkle. That's a good one. [S2] I have a couple of those. [S1] That's definitely working. So a twinkle in the eyes. And it just, she said, it just gives me a presence...
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[S1] We all do. We all have it. [S2] Before I go out for a date, I don't date much, but when I do, I always look at myself in the mirror beforehand and I think, "Well, that's not right," and maybe he won't find me funny. But I guess if I think about all the good things first. [S1] Exactly. [S2] And recognize those.
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[S1] Partly, yes. I think if you have two or three starter questions- [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] ... then really listen and just do great follow-up questions. So if they say, "I really love Seville," say, "Oh, great. Where did you go in Seville?" And it's, and then if they say, "Well, there's a great tapas bar," you know, "Tell...
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[S1] And then you show you're engaged and that you've been listening, which is important because sometimes you're having a conversation with someone and you can see their eyes glaze over a little bit. [S2] And that's horrible. [S1] Yeah, it's the worst. [S2] It, and it will kill any spark. So having to really listen be...
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[S1] That, I mean, that is really hard. It, as you say, public speaking is bad enough, and doing it in a language where you don't feel safe, where you don't feel that if you go wrong you can escape, is really scary. [S2] Yeah. [S1] So the things I always say to people are, firstly, if you're doing it in a language that...
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[S1] Now that is a tip I really gel with because I, when I speak in my second language, which is Spanish, I will record myself and then I'll listen back to it and I will notice loads of mistakes that I didn't realize that I made at the time. And also you get to know it better. [S2] Exactly. [S1] But I feel a natural in...
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[S1] Tip number two is that you've got to get the body relaxed and prepared. So it's what I call getting the butterflies- [S2] You got me moving there. Okay. [S1] Breathing and grounding. The butterflies have to fly in formation. So you know in English we say that you, the, you get butterflies in your stomach. [S2] Yes...
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[S1] Like the red arrows, like the, you know, the, the planes that fly in formation. [S2] So you need to take hold of those butterflies and, and channel them into something positive. [S1] Exactly. [S2] Okay. [S1] 'Cause the idea is, I mean, is it for performers as well, for, you know, anybody who's on stage, that adren...
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[S1] 'Cause adrenaline is a feeling that I hate. Those nerves before a first date, I can't stand it. 'Cause I'm normally quite a confident person and I guess the feeling of feeling really nervous and, and the butterflies, I don't like. But you're saying that it's a positive thing. [S2] It's a good thing. [S1] Oh.
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[S1] Go for a run or do some yoga or something beforehand. [S2] That's a good idea because I went for the coffee. [S1] Don't have the coffee. [S2] No, I'll ditch the coffee. Green tea and a run. [S1] Yeah, lots of water. [S2] Okay.
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[S1] Oh, so you change your perspective slightly. [S2] Yeah. [S1] I like that, definitely, because, you know, you might not be the right person for the job. [S2] And that's okay, you know. [S1] And that's just something you have to accept and, and that might make rejection a little bit easier as well. I always think if...
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[S1] Exactly. [S2] So what about tip number two, then? [S1] So breathing is really important in an interview. [S2] Breathing? [S1] Yep, yep. Because what, you know, you get a horrible question, don't you? Think of the moment where someone asks you a really horrible question. [S2] The worst one for me would be, "Describ...
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[S1] Remember to breathe. Now, okay, so how you breathe is important. 'Cause what most of us do when a really horrible question comes is we kinda go, we breathe here, we go, [INHALES] and it's a bit extreme, that, but there's a kind of chest breath that's happening. [S2] Yeah. [S1] That breath is not helping you. What ...
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[S1] And then wait for the breath in. And just think about- [S2] Yeah. [S1] Yeah, breathing into the back. Exactly. [S2] It's softer. [S1] It's calmer. [S2] And it relaxes your shoulders as well. [S1] It's relaxing you and it's making you seem calm under pressure, which is when people give you a job, 'cause you seem ca...
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[S1] Ah, okay. So they'll kind of introduce, say what they're going to say, and then say it in an ordered manner. [S2] Exactly. [S1] Ah, see, I, I get in a bit of a panic. I'll try and give as much information as I possibly can to try and appear knowledgeable about the topic. But you're saying it's better to just prior...
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[S1] ... an essential part of life. [S2] The telephone calls are hard, aren't they? [S1] Mm-hmm. [S2] That whole thing that we can't see the other person. [S1] You can't see their reaction, so you don't know whether they like what you're saying.
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[S1] It's tricky. And I, the first tip for calls is another actor tip, and it was an actress called Anna Massey, who's no longer with us. She's died, sadly. But she said, "When I'm on the phone to someone, I picture them sitting on a sofa," a bit like this, you know, "sitting at home, and even if I haven't met them, I ...
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[S1] And the iambic, English has what's called really an iambic pentameter, which is like Hamlet. [S2] Yeah. [S1] You know, if you think of to be or not to be, that is the question, there's a kind of de dum, de dum, de dum, de dum. [S2] There's the rhythm, yes. Yeah. [S1] And lots of languages, as you know, you know, S...
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[S1] Hi, my name's Caroline. You know, we're going to be talking about emphasis. I'm hitting with my hand the important words. If they're on the phone, they won't know. [S2] Just as long as they don't forget they're on a Skype call. [S1] Yeah, don't do it on Skype. [S2] [LAUGHS]
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[S1] Great. And what's your final tip? And the final tip of today, actually. [S2] The final tip? The final tip of today is if you are nervous about a call, if you need to make a great impression, stand up. [S1] Stand up. Okay. I always see my dad doing that. My dad is a, is a managing director and he's always marching ...
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[S1] So yes, thank you very, very much for being my guest today. [S2] My pleasure. Thank you. [S1] And remember, be bold for change and make a change in your life and be more confident. Don't forget to connect with me on all of my social media. I've got my Facebook and my Instagram and I will see you soon for another l...
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[S1] Madam Herta is the third genius of the Erudition to partner with the IPC. After member number 22, Aiden, and member number 56, Elias Salas, the corporation stands united with Madam Herta to protect the Amber Lords universe. [S2] And this is the end of our broadcast. Please tune in for our next episode. Thank you f...
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