35： The Perfect Media Server _transcript.txt

[0.08 --> 2.50]  Today's episode is a really exciting one for me.
[3.06 --> 5.70]  It's the culmination of five years' work.
[6.00 --> 9.66]  The perfect media server is now, well, I'll save it for the show.
[10.06 --> 11.68]  We also respond to a ton of your feedback.
[11.96 --> 13.50]  This is Self-Hosted 35.
[15.00 --> 17.50]  Well, Alex, I'll admit it right here on the show,
[17.66 --> 20.66]  I set up yet another SyncThing server this weekend.
[21.00 --> 23.54]  You thought you'd leave 2020 behind in style, hey?
[24.10 --> 25.86]  I wanted more speed, Alex.
[25.92 --> 29.58]  Actually, it really came down to me doing the math and realizing,
[29.58 --> 33.92]  hey, you know, when I switch networks, it kind of slows the syncing down.
[34.28 --> 37.02]  But if I can pull from multiple Sync servers,
[37.62 --> 40.64]  it kind of makes up for it and goes even faster in ideal situations.
[40.80 --> 44.58]  So I thought, why not set up a SyncThing server on Linode
[44.58 --> 47.80]  and just sync a small select stuff that I really want to move fast?
[48.56 --> 51.10]  And it legit works. It's really nice.
[51.76 --> 54.52]  It's like doubles the amount of files that can be transferred at once, too,
[55.02 --> 56.88]  from what I can tell in my brief testing.
[56.88 --> 59.64]  I'll be honest, I haven't continued with SyncThing
[59.64 --> 61.62]  after we talked about it a couple of episodes ago.
[61.96 --> 62.80]  It just doesn't work for me.
[62.88 --> 64.58]  It just doesn't do it, I'm afraid.
[64.84 --> 66.16]  But I'm glad it's working for you.
[66.54 --> 67.86]  You're a hater. I understand.
[68.30 --> 69.46]  I understand. I understand.
[69.64 --> 71.16]  I love it.
[71.52 --> 80.10]  I think 2020 is the year that I stepped into a long-term relationship with SyncThing.
[80.10 --> 84.18]  And it's not like I'm working on files super quick
[84.18 --> 85.54]  and I want to move it between machines
[85.54 --> 88.42]  and I want to edit a file upstairs and then walk down into the studio
[88.42 --> 90.06]  and have that file on my desktop.
[90.68 --> 94.26]  It may be able to serve that function, but I've learned not to expect that.
[94.58 --> 97.28]  The one caveat I do have with SyncThing
[97.28 --> 99.94]  is you've got to let it go at its own pace.
[100.22 --> 101.46]  You've got to let it go at its own pace.
[101.96 --> 103.56]  And that's why I love online learning, too.
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[117.02 --> 119.14]  Well, Alex, I think we should start the show today by,
[119.38 --> 121.34]  well, maybe we started by talking about SyncThing,
[121.44 --> 125.76]  but now we should start talking about a project in various forms, at least,
[125.82 --> 127.96]  you've been working on for about five years.
[128.16 --> 132.92]  And I think, if I'm not wrong, it's like about to reach its ultimate form.
[133.32 --> 134.06]  Perhaps, yeah.
[134.06 --> 136.58]  Well, I mean, as we record, it's still 2020,
[136.90 --> 139.58]  but I think this is going to come out on New Year's morning.
[139.76 --> 141.34]  So Happy New Year, everybody.
[141.78 --> 142.74]  Welcome to 2021.
[143.20 --> 146.12]  Hopefully, it's more prosperous than the last one was.
[146.62 --> 149.02]  We're talking about my perfect media server project.
[149.26 --> 152.64]  So this was something that, when I was involved with linuxserver.io,
[152.80 --> 159.12]  that actually helped me kind of form the direction for that site
[159.12 --> 160.60]  and the blog and stuff like that.
[160.60 --> 169.48]  So on the 2nd of February 2016, I wrote a post about what I called the perfect media server,
[169.66 --> 171.56]  for want of a better name, and it's kind of stuck now.
[171.96 --> 174.70]  It's bold, but now you've kind of become the perfect media server guy.
[174.94 --> 176.08]  Yeah, I guess so.
[176.92 --> 179.06]  You know, I've toyed with changing the name a few times,
[179.18 --> 181.18]  but enough people have seen it.
[181.44 --> 182.64]  And, you know, I've looked at the analytics,
[182.64 --> 185.88]  and a lot of people have read that post over the years.
[187.16 --> 189.16]  In fact, funnily enough, when I moved to Raleigh,
[189.22 --> 191.54]  one of my closest friends now, who's also called Alex,
[192.16 --> 194.92]  he joined Linux server originally.
[195.14 --> 196.52]  He's now one of the Linux server devs.
[196.74 --> 200.36]  He joined that website because he read my perfect media server post.
[200.90 --> 203.62]  And so when I came to town, like, he met up with me,
[203.66 --> 205.90]  and we had a few beers and stuff like that.
[205.90 --> 209.22]  And he was so excited to tell me that he'd built one as well around,
[209.30 --> 213.68]  you know, Docker and Snap Raid and Merger FS and all this kind of stuff.
[213.82 --> 217.72]  So it's been a really cool thing to share with the world.
[218.26 --> 221.88]  Well, you also got a great domain name for it, perfectmediaserver.com.
[221.98 --> 222.78]  Is that new?
[223.12 --> 223.96]  Brand new, yes.
[224.30 --> 228.98]  I, well, when I say brand new, I mean, I bought it in June.
[228.98 --> 238.52]  I've been promising a 2020 version of this article for rather longer than I would like.
[238.82 --> 243.58]  So I released one in 2016, another one in 17, and another one in 19.
[244.06 --> 246.66]  And, you know, when you start thinking about what can I write about
[246.66 --> 249.70]  with these perfect media servers,
[249.96 --> 253.72]  when everything is just so reliable and just works,
[254.78 --> 256.46]  there comes a limit when you think,
[256.46 --> 260.10]  well, I can't really rehash the same thing again and again.
[261.38 --> 264.78]  And so this time I was looking at the three posts.
[265.08 --> 267.74]  And since I'm no longer involved with Linux server,
[267.92 --> 271.06]  I don't have access to edit those blog posts easily anymore.
[271.22 --> 273.48]  I mean, I can ask the team to fix things and stuff,
[273.64 --> 276.32]  but invariably information goes out of date.
[276.66 --> 280.18]  And I am a huge advocate of open source
[280.18 --> 284.56]  and community contributions and wikis and all that kind of stuff.
[284.56 --> 288.18]  And so I just thought that this would make much more sense
[288.18 --> 293.38]  as a kind of a wiki type website with first class search categories,
[293.72 --> 296.22]  walking people through how to do things,
[296.28 --> 298.10]  you know, in a step-by-step kind of fashion,
[298.38 --> 302.30]  and then leave the blog posts as kind of like an annual opinion piece
[302.30 --> 305.50]  alongside this more kind of dry,
[305.68 --> 309.80]  technical wiki style website at perfectmediaserver.com.
[309.80 --> 311.18]  Okay, that makes a lot of sense.
[311.74 --> 315.86]  And I think probably the real value for people to understand is
[315.86 --> 318.64]  you're telling people there's a lot of options out there,
[318.74 --> 320.82]  but maybe this is a great stack to use.
[320.88 --> 321.78]  You can use this stack.
[321.88 --> 322.60]  I've tested this.
[322.68 --> 329.54]  I've refined it over the years to do really a beyond just okay media setup,
[329.58 --> 330.74]  but a great home media setup.
[330.96 --> 333.76]  And instead of saying, oh, there's so many use cases
[333.76 --> 336.54]  or the answer, which is frequently it depends,
[336.98 --> 338.60]  you make some opinionated decisions
[338.60 --> 341.12]  and kind of point people in a direction
[341.12 --> 342.34]  and then lay out how to do it.
[342.66 --> 345.88]  And I think that's maybe, for me, the real value of the site.
[345.88 --> 348.98]  I think as well, a lot of people come to Linux,
[349.04 --> 350.34]  and I've said this before on the show,
[350.94 --> 353.70]  a lot of people come to Linux not through the desktop,
[354.14 --> 356.34]  but through Plex,
[356.62 --> 358.90]  through running headless apps on a Synology
[358.90 --> 360.88]  or a Raspberry Pi or something like that.
[360.88 --> 364.54]  And once you start having a box in your house
[364.54 --> 367.46]  that does everything 24 hours a day,
[367.62 --> 369.16]  that is on 24 hours a day,
[369.58 --> 370.82]  you think, what else could I do with it?
[371.04 --> 374.04]  And that single spark is a huge rabbit hole.
[374.20 --> 377.12]  And I think one of my primary goals with the site
[377.12 --> 379.38]  is to equip those newer people
[379.38 --> 383.74]  with the skills that they need to install Ubuntu,
[384.82 --> 385.94]  set up MergerFS,
[386.48 --> 388.16]  figure out what an FS tab is,
[388.16 --> 391.02]  and not be intimidated by, you know,
[391.22 --> 396.10]  wading through lots of different disparate documentation
[396.10 --> 397.94]  across different places on the internet.
[398.04 --> 399.22]  It's just all in one place.
[399.88 --> 402.78]  And if you want to have multiple hard drives
[402.78 --> 405.32]  in a single box that are of mismatched sizes
[405.32 --> 406.80]  with different file systems,
[407.24 --> 408.58]  well, here's a solution for you.
[409.10 --> 410.70]  You've already got data on these drives.
[410.78 --> 411.88]  You don't want to do RAID.
[412.22 --> 413.04]  Great, cool.
[413.14 --> 414.66]  Come along and join the party.
[414.66 --> 416.62]  Yeah, and honestly,
[416.92 --> 418.98]  it's a lot of the stack that we talk about frequently.
[419.34 --> 420.58]  You talk about Docker,
[420.76 --> 422.34]  kind of some of the background in there,
[422.40 --> 423.02]  how to get it going.
[423.34 --> 425.12]  And you work your way up through
[425.12 --> 426.76]  how to manage multiple disks
[426.76 --> 427.88]  of different sizes, like you say.
[427.96 --> 428.54]  But then also,
[429.08 --> 430.32]  if you want to go ZFS,
[430.70 --> 433.78]  and here's also a Proxmox layer you should consider,
[434.68 --> 436.44]  any one of those could be broken out
[436.44 --> 438.42]  and really have nothing to do
[438.42 --> 440.30]  with building a media server.
[440.64 --> 442.28]  So it's kind of valuable in that way too, I suppose.
[442.28 --> 444.00]  So I mentioned that just for the audience
[444.00 --> 446.02]  who's not interested in building a media server,
[446.16 --> 449.04]  but does want to learn more about Docker
[449.04 --> 452.36]  or MergerFS or SnapRate or ZFS or Proxmox
[452.36 --> 454.88]  or hardware, any of that kind of stack,
[454.96 --> 456.24]  stuff we talk about on this show
[456.24 --> 458.16]  and you want to read something from Alex on it,
[458.68 --> 459.52]  you can find it there too.
[459.66 --> 462.42]  And I could totally have seen a guy like me,
[463.24 --> 465.10]  maybe if I was building my media server setup
[465.10 --> 465.90]  for the first time,
[466.22 --> 467.18]  I'd be thinking, okay,
[467.24 --> 468.52]  I know I want to use containers,
[468.70 --> 470.00]  but I don't quite know how
[470.00 --> 472.60]  and in what way to use them to do this right.
[473.24 --> 474.52]  I know about MergerFS,
[474.80 --> 476.42]  but I don't know how to deploy it.
[476.52 --> 478.62]  And so having you write something,
[479.52 --> 481.04]  having used this stuff in production
[481.04 --> 482.16]  for five years now,
[482.70 --> 484.16]  there's value to that.
[484.46 --> 486.08]  So you should be the perfect media server guy.
[486.56 --> 487.88]  I think that's, I said good on you.
[488.20 --> 490.02]  You be the perfect media server guy
[490.02 --> 492.84]  because I endorse this media server build here.
[492.94 --> 494.80]  You are, Chris, and you support this message.
[495.04 --> 496.08]  I wonder what the cost is.
[496.12 --> 496.92]  Have you thought about that?
[496.92 --> 499.44]  Have you thought about like what the cost would be
[499.44 --> 502.38]  for a minimal build of something from this guide?
[502.64 --> 503.58]  Well, in terms of hardware?
[504.60 --> 505.58]  Yeah, in terms of hardware.
[506.00 --> 507.66]  I think QuickSync now for me
[507.66 --> 509.50]  is a minimum price of entry
[509.50 --> 511.54]  after everything we talked about in the last episode.
[512.24 --> 515.04]  So a hundred bucks for a CPU.
[515.76 --> 517.32]  You can probably find a used motherboard
[517.32 --> 518.82]  that will do the trick for a hundred dollars.
[519.02 --> 520.74]  Again, RAM is about a hundred.
[521.44 --> 522.66]  And then hard drives.
[522.74 --> 524.00]  For an eight terabyte hard drive now,
[524.00 --> 525.30]  you can go to Best Buy and pick one up
[525.30 --> 528.14]  for around 130, 140.
[528.58 --> 529.86]  So I don't know.
[529.92 --> 531.86]  Let's say 140.
[532.88 --> 533.42]  What's that?
[533.50 --> 537.14]  It's like $1,100 or so for hard drives.
[538.06 --> 538.86]  I don't know, $1,500.
[539.60 --> 541.44]  I think all in would get you
[541.44 --> 543.58]  five, eight terabyte drives
[543.58 --> 545.00]  of 40 terabytes of storage
[545.00 --> 548.28]  for $1,500 all in.
[548.28 --> 550.92]  And you own it forever.
[551.68 --> 552.54]  It's, you know, you're not,
[553.40 --> 555.10]  I mean, Synology make a great product.
[555.20 --> 557.68]  So do QNAP and Unraid's also great,
[557.78 --> 558.82]  but it's not open source.
[559.68 --> 562.50]  Free NAS requires learning ZFS,
[563.16 --> 565.72]  which I know I talk about in Perfect Media Server,
[565.82 --> 569.94]  but it's kind of orthogonal to the main content.
[570.06 --> 571.82]  It's not required learning.
[571.98 --> 574.44]  Whereas with a True NAS or a Free NAS product,
[574.66 --> 575.24]  it is.
[575.24 --> 578.50]  It's just the most flexible thing for most people.
[578.64 --> 581.32]  And I think when you start looking at
[581.32 --> 582.86]  putting together one of these servers,
[583.00 --> 585.80]  $1,500 isn't a small upfront investment.
[586.00 --> 586.50]  And you think, right,
[586.56 --> 587.84]  well, where can I cut some costs?
[587.94 --> 590.64]  And the obvious answer is the hard drives.
[591.06 --> 592.60]  You know, rather than buying five,
[592.70 --> 594.58]  let's only buy a couple, right?
[594.60 --> 596.90]  And then I'll add the other three
[596.90 --> 598.12]  over the next year or two.
[598.90 --> 600.20]  MergerFS lets me do that.
[600.28 --> 603.40]  It lets me add drives as my collection grows
[603.40 --> 607.60]  without having to re-silver a ZFS array
[607.60 --> 611.40]  or rebuild a RAID setup or anything like that.
[611.44 --> 613.36]  It just grows as I do,
[613.42 --> 614.66]  and it changes and matures.
[615.00 --> 616.66]  And because it's just Linux,
[617.00 --> 620.16]  it's open and I can go and tinker
[620.16 --> 621.52]  as deep as I want under the hood.
[621.90 --> 623.40]  Or again, because it's Linux,
[623.56 --> 624.96]  it will just work.
[625.04 --> 625.76]  It's just reliable.
[626.02 --> 628.16]  It's battle-tested and hardened everywhere.
[628.16 --> 632.58]  So I really do think that if you're willing
[632.58 --> 636.34]  to put the time in and learn a little bit of this stuff
[636.34 --> 638.92]  with the information that's provided here for you,
[639.12 --> 640.10]  for free, I might add,
[640.14 --> 641.76]  I don't make a penny off of this stuff.
[642.20 --> 643.62]  Anyway, I never have.
[643.68 --> 644.90]  I just wanted to give this information
[644.90 --> 645.90]  back to the community.
[646.76 --> 648.72]  I don't think there's a better solution, really,
[648.80 --> 650.12]  if you're willing to put the effort in.
[650.92 --> 652.44]  And I'll just give one more mention,
[652.76 --> 654.14]  because as you were talking there,
[654.14 --> 656.30]  I was just also reviewing your QuickSync
[656.30 --> 657.68]  and Proxmox page.
[658.18 --> 659.98]  And damn, you put some work into this.
[660.46 --> 662.38]  But I also, I think it's pretty clever
[662.38 --> 665.18]  that you embedded the relevant JB content
[665.18 --> 667.42]  where we've talked about a lot of this stuff in depth
[667.42 --> 668.96]  when it still holds up.
[669.04 --> 671.76]  So not only do you get a lot of the written stuff
[671.76 --> 672.72]  and the visual examples,
[672.88 --> 675.26]  but you've got a video from Wendell in here too.
[675.44 --> 678.14]  And so you add the supplemental media content.
[678.94 --> 682.48]  I could see us linking this to a lot of people
[682.48 --> 684.16]  that write into the show and ask questions
[684.16 --> 684.96]  about this stuff.
[685.78 --> 687.58]  If I were going to contribute one area,
[687.68 --> 688.68]  I just thought to troll you,
[688.74 --> 690.40]  I'd probably contribute using ButterFS.
[690.96 --> 693.96]  Because literally everything you just said
[693.96 --> 696.44]  about MergerFS is why I use ButterFS.
[698.14 --> 699.50]  Seriously, like word for word.
[699.76 --> 702.62]  So on the ZFS page,
[702.76 --> 705.28]  there's a whole section about what about ButterFS.
[706.72 --> 708.20]  Okay, good.
[708.24 --> 709.24]  You've addressed it, I can see.
[709.76 --> 711.12]  Well, a little bit.
[711.12 --> 714.14]  And my conclusion was that using ButterFS
[714.14 --> 717.06]  would probably be easier than ZFS
[717.06 --> 720.08]  simply because it's shipped as part of the Linux kernel.
[720.34 --> 724.02]  But I've invested in ZFS mentally,
[724.20 --> 727.32]  but also I've synced six,
[727.46 --> 730.82]  seven terabytes worth of data across the ocean to the UK.
[731.36 --> 733.14]  And I don't want to have to spend another
[733.14 --> 736.58]  six or seven weeks doing that again if I switch.
[736.92 --> 738.80]  Well, ironically, it's more about
[738.80 --> 740.48]  it's more about how you use MergerFS.
[741.00 --> 742.92]  However, I think, you know, both are gray.
[743.02 --> 744.72]  And if MergerFS is working for you,
[745.52 --> 747.16]  I'm not, I will really not, I'm just more teasing.
[747.64 --> 749.22]  But it did strike me
[749.22 --> 752.08]  that being able to join mismatched disks
[752.08 --> 753.66]  and add them as it grows
[753.66 --> 755.06]  and be able to remove them easily
[755.06 --> 757.74]  is why I switched to using ButterFS
[757.74 --> 759.26]  on my Raspberry Pi media servers.
[759.26 --> 760.36]  Because I needed something
[760.36 --> 762.54]  that essentially was no cost.
[762.54 --> 764.74]  Since ButterFS is built into the kernel
[764.74 --> 767.18]  and it also doesn't have a high,
[767.28 --> 768.86]  it's a very efficient file system.
[768.94 --> 770.10]  There's not a big performance penalty.
[770.24 --> 771.24]  I don't need a lot of RAM.
[771.94 --> 773.04]  It meant that I didn't have to install
[773.04 --> 775.28]  any additional software at all.
[775.62 --> 778.50]  And actually no additional config files or anything.
[778.74 --> 779.40]  There's no config.
[779.50 --> 781.86]  It's just, it's all just with volume management
[781.86 --> 782.74]  on the command line.
[782.82 --> 783.72]  And it's very simple.
[783.84 --> 785.92]  It's like ButterFS add volume
[785.92 --> 786.86]  and you give it the path
[786.86 --> 788.16]  and you tell it what volume to add to
[788.16 --> 789.02]  and boom, you're done.
[789.22 --> 789.76]  And then remove.
[789.76 --> 790.90]  And as long as you have enough space,
[790.98 --> 791.80]  it sinks everything off
[791.80 --> 792.56]  and you can remove it.
[792.76 --> 794.68]  And I actually have not tested that.
[794.80 --> 796.14]  I could imagine it being tricky.
[796.66 --> 797.66]  But I think, you know,
[797.76 --> 799.60]  it's, there's different ways
[799.60 --> 800.56]  to solve all of these.
[800.72 --> 802.36]  And what you've done here with this
[802.36 --> 803.66]  is said, well, these are ways
[803.66 --> 807.36]  that not only are very sensible solutions,
[807.36 --> 808.32]  but ones that I've tested.
[808.74 --> 810.04]  And that's the value again.
[810.12 --> 811.24]  Like, yeah, I could add something
[811.24 --> 811.84]  about ButterFS,
[812.18 --> 815.12]  but there's limited value in it.
[815.22 --> 816.44]  You know, it's my experience.
[816.98 --> 817.80]  And this is something
[817.80 --> 819.16]  that you've worked at for a long time.
[819.16 --> 820.70]  So I think it's, yeah,
[820.88 --> 822.20]  I think MurderFS is a great solution
[822.20 --> 823.00]  for that kind of stuff.
[823.12 --> 824.68]  And, you know, things like ZFS
[824.68 --> 825.44]  and SnapRaid,
[825.54 --> 827.12]  depending on what your needs are,
[827.16 --> 828.84]  also can be appropriate solutions.
[829.44 --> 830.30]  So I've built this site
[830.30 --> 831.16]  around MKDocs,
[831.74 --> 834.02]  which happens to be the same project
[834.02 --> 835.02]  that we're using
[835.02 --> 836.14]  for the self-hosted wiki,
[836.26 --> 837.56]  which I've also put some work
[837.56 --> 838.36]  into this week
[838.36 --> 840.06]  over the Christmas break.
[840.48 --> 841.66]  So please go ahead
[841.66 --> 843.34]  and contribute to the self-hosted wiki
[843.34 --> 845.14]  at wiki.selfhosted.show
[845.14 --> 846.92]  because we're crying out
[846.92 --> 847.94]  for content over there.
[847.94 --> 850.14]  But MKDocs,
[850.20 --> 851.04]  I'll tell you what, Chris,
[851.16 --> 854.70]  has become a hell of a wiki software,
[855.02 --> 855.32]  you know?
[855.64 --> 856.16]  So I don't know
[856.16 --> 857.02]  when you're browsing this,
[857.08 --> 858.16]  but I don't know if you noticed
[858.16 --> 859.30]  it has a keyboard shortcut.
[859.58 --> 860.38]  And they don't tell you this,
[860.44 --> 860.62]  obviously,
[860.72 --> 862.00]  but it's the same as Vim.
[862.40 --> 864.80]  So you can press the forward slash key,
[865.00 --> 866.38]  which brings up search,
[866.52 --> 867.50]  and then you can search
[867.50 --> 869.00]  for any string in any page.
[869.18 --> 870.06]  And it will just,
[870.30 --> 870.98]  in real time,
[871.06 --> 872.12]  and then use the arrow keys.
[872.28 --> 873.08]  Oh, yes.
[873.08 --> 874.58]  And it will just take you straight
[874.58 --> 876.10]  to the section of that page.
[876.22 --> 877.36]  Just that feature alone
[877.36 --> 878.64]  had me sold.
[878.88 --> 879.02]  Huh.
[879.64 --> 880.16]  That's great.
[880.22 --> 881.02]  But they've added dozens
[881.02 --> 881.88]  of other features,
[882.30 --> 882.52]  you know,
[882.60 --> 884.04]  like they've got little tool tips,
[884.50 --> 885.62]  little info boxes,
[885.62 --> 887.42]  and stuff that breaks up the content.
[888.06 --> 889.76]  The code formatting,
[890.02 --> 890.44]  highlighting,
[890.84 --> 892.04]  is just brilliant.
[892.82 --> 894.22]  It's fully customizable.
[894.22 --> 896.00]  So, you know,
[896.26 --> 898.30]  it was using the COBOL wiki
[898.30 --> 899.82]  for the Helios 64 review,
[899.98 --> 900.86]  which finally got me
[900.86 --> 903.58]  to really take MKDocs seriously
[903.58 --> 905.82]  and really went through
[905.82 --> 906.34]  the documentation
[906.34 --> 907.66]  with a fine tooth comb.
[907.84 --> 908.80]  And I've enabled
[908.80 --> 909.96]  all the features that I want.
[910.16 --> 910.84]  And the only thing
[910.84 --> 912.16]  I haven't done yet is comments,
[912.38 --> 913.94]  which I might do.
[914.02 --> 914.48]  I might not.
[914.56 --> 915.46]  I haven't decided yet.
[915.98 --> 918.24]  But the material theme
[918.24 --> 920.72]  for MKDocs really is stunning.
[921.08 --> 923.36]  And I don't think at the moment
[923.36 --> 924.74]  there's a better open source
[924.74 --> 926.88]  documentation platform.
[927.48 --> 928.04]  Yeah, I will say
[928.04 --> 929.26]  that just the presentation,
[929.54 --> 930.52]  so not even commenting
[930.52 --> 931.04]  on what it's like
[931.04 --> 932.62]  to actually write on it,
[932.66 --> 933.28]  but the presentation
[933.28 --> 935.48]  is extremely readable.
[936.26 --> 936.82]  You know, documentation,
[937.14 --> 938.32]  especially something
[938.32 --> 939.86]  as extensive as a topic like this,
[939.92 --> 941.08]  can be just a chore
[941.08 --> 941.76]  to get through.
[942.18 --> 943.40]  But the way it lays out,
[943.46 --> 943.90]  like you said,
[943.94 --> 944.44]  the way it does
[944.44 --> 945.42]  some of the different quoting
[945.42 --> 946.92]  and code blocks
[946.92 --> 948.14]  and all of it,
[948.26 --> 950.02]  just all of it is really,
[950.10 --> 950.40]  it's just,
[950.50 --> 951.42]  it makes me want to use it
[951.42 --> 951.94]  for my stuff.
[951.94 --> 953.02]  So I was going to ask you,
[953.02 --> 953.66]  I was going to talk to you
[953.66 --> 954.24]  about MKDocs
[954.24 --> 954.86]  and see what you thought
[954.86 --> 956.70]  because, yeah,
[956.78 --> 957.72]  it really seems impressive
[957.72 --> 960.86]  and probably the perfect solution
[960.86 --> 963.88]  for just JB internal documentation.
[964.38 --> 964.66]  Yeah, I mean,
[964.80 --> 965.28]  it's all,
[965.50 --> 966.68]  everything's written in Markdown.
[967.52 --> 968.96]  So if in the future
[968.96 --> 969.80]  you decided to use
[969.80 --> 970.64]  a different solution
[970.64 --> 971.34]  for some reason,
[972.14 --> 973.24]  it's just plain text.
[973.34 --> 974.94]  It's not in a CMS somewhere.
[975.46 --> 976.40]  It lives in a Git repo.
[976.90 --> 978.14]  You can just copy and paste
[978.14 --> 978.70]  and job done.
[979.08 --> 979.84]  That's pretty nice.
[980.22 --> 981.94]  Well, so as we record right now,
[981.94 --> 983.64]  this isn't live.
[983.90 --> 985.26]  So what's your plan?
[985.30 --> 985.86]  I assume you're going to try
[985.86 --> 986.36]  to get it out
[986.36 --> 987.62]  when the show goes live.
[988.12 --> 989.06]  If you look at my GitHub
[989.06 --> 990.42]  commit history this week,
[990.42 --> 991.90]  it's going to be bright green.
[992.30 --> 992.70]  Yeah.
[993.42 --> 994.92]  I'm working away feverishly
[994.92 --> 995.66]  on this to get it done
[995.66 --> 996.42]  by the end of 2020.
[996.84 --> 998.12]  So I'm aiming
[998.12 --> 999.46]  for a New Year's Eve launch.
[999.56 --> 1000.34]  So by the time you listen
[1000.34 --> 1000.98]  to this episode,
[1001.06 --> 1001.86]  it should be live.
[1002.58 --> 1003.38]  PerfectMediaServer.com.
[1003.50 --> 1004.32]  Let me know what you think
[1004.32 --> 1005.74]  at IronicBadger on Twitter.
[1005.74 --> 1007.96]  I would love to hear
[1007.96 --> 1008.38]  what you think
[1008.38 --> 1009.58]  because I've put a lot of time,
[1010.04 --> 1011.20]  probably several hundred hours
[1011.20 --> 1012.60]  into this site
[1012.60 --> 1013.24]  by the end of it,
[1013.42 --> 1014.14]  all told.
[1014.76 --> 1016.08]  I'd also accept PRs
[1016.08 --> 1016.84]  on the GitHub repo.
[1016.98 --> 1017.86]  So if you want to open an issue,
[1017.94 --> 1018.72]  if you find a mistake
[1018.72 --> 1019.82]  or something,
[1019.96 --> 1021.08]  which is highly likely
[1021.08 --> 1021.54]  at the pace
[1021.54 --> 1022.44]  I'm working right now,
[1023.18 --> 1023.62]  let me know
[1023.62 --> 1024.46]  through a GitHub issue
[1024.46 --> 1025.44]  or open a pull request
[1025.44 --> 1025.80]  or something.
[1025.88 --> 1026.78]  I would love to hear from you.
[1026.78 --> 1027.18]  Okay.
[1027.58 --> 1032.42]  Needs more ButterFS documentation.
[1033.20 --> 1033.64]  Serious.
[1033.64 --> 1034.52]  Seriously.
[1035.26 --> 1035.74]  Jeez.
[1037.88 --> 1038.74]  You, sir,
[1038.86 --> 1040.54]  are a grade A troll.
[1040.74 --> 1041.18]  Thank you.
[1043.56 --> 1044.66]  Linode.com
[1044.66 --> 1045.86]  slash SSH.
[1045.96 --> 1046.24]  Go there
[1046.24 --> 1047.50]  to get a $100
[1047.50 --> 1048.90]  60-day credit
[1048.90 --> 1049.68]  towards a new account
[1049.68 --> 1050.76]  and go there
[1050.76 --> 1051.54]  to support the show.
[1051.94 --> 1052.68]  Linode is our
[1052.68 --> 1053.78]  cloud hosting provider
[1053.78 --> 1054.84]  and because the price
[1054.84 --> 1055.32]  is so great,
[1055.44 --> 1056.40]  they can make it possible
[1056.40 --> 1058.24]  for you to use Linode
[1058.24 --> 1059.60]  even for a small deployment
[1059.60 --> 1061.06]  or for a large deployment.
[1061.68 --> 1062.44]  Jeff used Linode
[1062.44 --> 1063.26]  to test migrate
[1063.26 --> 1063.82]  his important
[1063.82 --> 1064.72]  NextCloud setup.
[1065.10 --> 1066.04]  He just took things
[1066.04 --> 1067.24]  one step at a time
[1067.24 --> 1068.26]  using different guides
[1068.26 --> 1068.74]  on Linode
[1068.74 --> 1069.24]  to make sure
[1069.24 --> 1070.10]  everything was right
[1070.10 --> 1071.48]  and he says
[1071.48 --> 1072.36]  eventually after about
[1072.36 --> 1073.32]  three pages of notes
[1073.32 --> 1074.80]  he did a completed
[1074.80 --> 1076.26]  successful migration
[1076.26 --> 1077.46]  and then he was able
[1077.46 --> 1078.84]  to take that knowledge,
[1079.52 --> 1080.76]  take that hands-on experience
[1080.76 --> 1083.62]  and go actually implement it
[1083.62 --> 1084.28]  on his production
[1084.28 --> 1085.12]  NextCloud instance.
[1085.50 --> 1085.70]  He said,
[1085.78 --> 1086.36]  but in the testing
[1086.36 --> 1087.32]  he noticed that
[1087.32 --> 1090.26]  even their smaller Linodes
[1090.26 --> 1091.98]  were still faster
[1091.98 --> 1092.68]  than his local
[1092.68 --> 1093.30]  quad-core
[1093.30 --> 1094.12]  16-gigabyte
[1094.12 --> 1094.86]  local machine.
[1096.14 --> 1098.14]  So he's looking at
[1098.14 --> 1098.92]  maybe just hosting it
[1098.92 --> 1099.92]  on Linode.com
[1099.92 --> 1100.94]  And Alex,
[1101.04 --> 1102.06]  I know that you're using
[1102.06 --> 1102.52]  Linode for
[1102.52 --> 1103.86]  the perfectmediaserver.com
[1103.86 --> 1105.10]  I sure am, yeah.
[1105.32 --> 1106.64]  Same node as
[1106.64 --> 1107.54]  is doing the wiki
[1107.54 --> 1109.94]  and gallery.selfhosted.show
[1109.94 --> 1111.18]  is doing
[1111.18 --> 1112.74]  perfectmediaserver.com
[1112.74 --> 1114.40]  So you can really squeeze
[1114.40 --> 1114.92]  quite a lot
[1114.92 --> 1115.84]  out of these little things.
[1115.84 --> 1116.94]  I love hearing
[1116.94 --> 1118.02]  how people are using
[1118.02 --> 1118.58]  Linode.
[1118.72 --> 1119.56]  So do let me know
[1119.56 --> 1120.82]  either at the contact
[1120.82 --> 1121.98]  forum or at Chris Lass
[1121.98 --> 1122.62]  on Twitter
[1122.62 --> 1124.08]  because with $5
[1124.08 --> 1125.14]  a month rigs
[1125.14 --> 1125.96]  you can do a lot
[1125.96 --> 1127.56]  but they also have
[1127.56 --> 1129.60]  dedicated CPU systems
[1129.60 --> 1130.30]  or machines
[1130.30 --> 1131.30]  with tons of RAM
[1131.30 --> 1132.44]  or lots of GPU
[1132.44 --> 1133.72]  so go experiment
[1133.72 --> 1134.50]  with that $100
[1134.50 --> 1135.56]  60-day credit.
[1135.98 --> 1136.66]  They also offer
[1136.66 --> 1138.14]  S3 object storage.
[1138.50 --> 1139.42]  This is a great way
[1139.42 --> 1140.18]  to store things
[1140.18 --> 1140.84]  in the cloud
[1140.84 --> 1142.00]  that don't need
[1142.00 --> 1142.48]  a Linode
[1142.48 --> 1142.94]  or a server
[1142.94 --> 1143.70]  sitting in front of them.
[1143.76 --> 1144.34]  You can just generate
[1144.34 --> 1145.00]  a public URL
[1145.00 --> 1145.72]  for that asset.
[1146.24 --> 1146.74]  I do this
[1146.74 --> 1147.66]  for soundboard clips
[1147.66 --> 1148.66]  you can do this
[1148.66 --> 1149.22]  for websites
[1149.22 --> 1150.04]  it's a great way
[1150.04 --> 1151.00]  to get a super fast
[1151.00 --> 1151.60]  portfolio
[1151.60 --> 1152.60]  where everything's
[1152.60 --> 1153.30]  stored statically
[1153.30 --> 1154.16]  in object storage
[1154.16 --> 1155.06]  and their prices
[1155.06 --> 1155.52]  are great.
[1155.80 --> 1156.22]  They also have
[1156.22 --> 1156.96]  load balancers
[1156.96 --> 1157.26]  and they have
[1157.26 --> 1157.82]  data centers
[1157.82 --> 1159.00]  in 11 locations
[1159.00 --> 1159.76]  around the world.
[1160.48 --> 1160.88]  So you're going to
[1160.88 --> 1161.38]  find something
[1161.38 --> 1161.90]  close to you
[1161.90 --> 1163.30]  or close to your client.
[1163.86 --> 1164.18]  So go to
[1164.18 --> 1165.08]  linode.com
[1165.08 --> 1166.32]  slash SSH
[1166.32 --> 1167.06]  go there
[1167.06 --> 1168.00]  get that $100
[1168.00 --> 1169.00]  60-day credit
[1169.00 --> 1169.94]  apply that towards
[1169.94 --> 1170.44]  a new account
[1170.44 --> 1171.56]  and go there
[1171.56 --> 1172.30]  to support the show.
[1172.82 --> 1173.92]  You help make
[1173.92 --> 1175.08]  independent content
[1175.08 --> 1175.58]  like this
[1175.58 --> 1175.86]  free
[1175.86 --> 1176.68]  when you go to
[1176.68 --> 1177.44]  linode.com
[1177.44 --> 1178.86]  slash SSH.
[1178.86 --> 1181.96]  I can't quite believe
[1181.96 --> 1182.64]  just how many
[1182.64 --> 1183.48]  powerline emails
[1183.48 --> 1184.30]  we had this week
[1184.30 --> 1184.86]  though can you?
[1185.68 --> 1186.74]  Alex it was
[1186.74 --> 1187.62]  wild.
[1187.88 --> 1188.66]  So I responded
[1188.66 --> 1189.74]  to several of them
[1189.74 --> 1190.16]  directly.
[1190.32 --> 1190.96]  I figured we respond
[1190.96 --> 1191.56]  to a couple here
[1191.56 --> 1192.14]  in the show
[1192.14 --> 1193.34]  when we had a few
[1193.34 --> 1193.88]  people write in
[1193.88 --> 1194.60]  about this stuff.
[1194.60 --> 1196.24]  I kind of suspected
[1196.24 --> 1197.04]  that powerline
[1197.04 --> 1197.64]  networking was
[1197.64 --> 1198.44]  probably something
[1198.44 --> 1200.88]  that got more
[1200.88 --> 1202.62]  use and deployments
[1202.62 --> 1205.28]  than kind of
[1205.28 --> 1206.32]  gets representation
[1206.32 --> 1207.16]  because there's so
[1207.16 --> 1208.06]  many scenarios
[1208.06 --> 1209.60]  where Wi-Fi
[1209.60 --> 1210.64]  just doesn't work
[1210.64 --> 1212.36]  especially older
[1212.36 --> 1213.08]  style Wi-Fi
[1213.08 --> 1213.98]  non-mesh Wi-Fi
[1213.98 --> 1214.90]  where like
[1214.90 --> 1215.90]  either a house
[1215.90 --> 1217.48]  construction materials
[1217.48 --> 1218.08]  involved
[1218.08 --> 1219.30]  or distance
[1219.30 --> 1220.98]  or all kinds
[1220.98 --> 1221.64]  of weird things.
[1221.64 --> 1223.58]  I have a family
[1223.58 --> 1224.28]  member who's
[1224.28 --> 1225.04]  next to an airport
[1225.04 --> 1226.32]  and their
[1226.32 --> 1227.22]  radio signal
[1227.22 --> 1228.12]  situation is just
[1228.12 --> 1228.50]  crazy.
[1229.02 --> 1229.48]  It's just
[1229.48 --> 1230.82]  unusable.
[1231.58 --> 1231.98]  So I
[1231.98 --> 1233.14]  suspected
[1233.14 --> 1234.00]  we would hear
[1234.00 --> 1234.90]  a lot about this
[1234.90 --> 1236.86]  but JT wrote in
[1236.86 --> 1237.50]  to say that he's
[1237.50 --> 1238.02]  been using
[1238.02 --> 1238.82]  powerline adapters
[1238.82 --> 1239.76]  for a couple of years.
[1240.38 --> 1241.26]  He currently has
[1241.26 --> 1241.94]  three of the
[1241.94 --> 1243.34]  TP-Link AV1000s
[1243.34 --> 1243.88]  which is the kit
[1243.88 --> 1244.28]  I bought
[1244.28 --> 1246.06]  with two different kits
[1246.06 --> 1246.84]  and he's using them
[1246.84 --> 1247.50]  without any issues.
[1247.62 --> 1247.90]  So he bought
[1247.90 --> 1248.74]  two of the kits
[1248.74 --> 1249.70]  two of what I have
[1249.70 --> 1250.40]  and they all
[1250.40 --> 1251.00]  link together.
[1251.00 --> 1251.90]  He says I do
[1251.90 --> 1252.32]  have a problem
[1252.32 --> 1252.78]  with one of the
[1252.78 --> 1253.36]  rooms though
[1253.36 --> 1254.34]  where one adapter
[1254.34 --> 1255.00]  normally gets about
[1255.00 --> 1256.16]  120 megabits
[1256.16 --> 1257.64]  and then it gets
[1257.64 --> 1258.18]  out of sync
[1258.18 --> 1258.84]  and it starts
[1258.84 --> 1259.80]  dropping packets
[1259.80 --> 1260.42]  like mad
[1260.42 --> 1261.16]  dropping the
[1261.16 --> 1261.98]  bandwidth next to
[1261.98 --> 1262.40]  nothing
[1262.40 --> 1263.06]  sometimes even
[1263.06 --> 1263.54]  less than a
[1263.54 --> 1263.98]  megabit
[1263.98 --> 1264.78]  but if I
[1264.78 --> 1265.22]  unplug and
[1265.22 --> 1265.72]  replug them
[1265.72 --> 1266.14]  back in
[1266.14 --> 1266.62]  it seems to
[1266.62 --> 1267.00]  fix it.
[1267.36 --> 1268.12]  It happens
[1268.12 --> 1268.46]  from time
[1268.46 --> 1268.94]  to time
[1268.94 --> 1270.12]  but also
[1270.12 --> 1270.60]  I wanted to
[1270.60 --> 1270.96]  give just a
[1270.96 --> 1271.52]  quick shout out
[1271.52 --> 1272.68]  to cloudfree.shop
[1272.68 --> 1273.38]  one of our
[1273.38 --> 1274.14]  official unofficial
[1274.14 --> 1274.86]  sponsors here
[1274.86 --> 1276.06]  of the self-hosted
[1276.06 --> 1276.54]  podcast.
[1277.00 --> 1277.38]  Coupon code
[1277.38 --> 1278.04]  self-hosted.
[1278.32 --> 1278.54]  He said
[1278.54 --> 1279.42]  cloudfree.shop
[1279.42 --> 1281.02]  finally gave him
[1281.02 --> 1281.88]  the kick in the
[1281.88 --> 1282.56]  butt he needed
[1282.56 --> 1283.48]  to begin automating
[1283.48 --> 1283.92]  his home.
[1284.44 --> 1284.64]  He says
[1284.64 --> 1285.10]  I never want
[1285.10 --> 1285.52]  anything really
[1285.52 --> 1286.04]  connected to the
[1286.04 --> 1286.56]  cloud and with
[1286.56 --> 1287.20]  smart plugs from
[1287.20 --> 1288.16]  cloudfree and
[1288.16 --> 1288.68]  home assistant
[1288.68 --> 1289.66]  I felt like I
[1289.66 --> 1290.22]  could finally get
[1290.22 --> 1290.56]  started.
[1291.06 --> 1291.68]  The first thing
[1291.68 --> 1292.42]  that I automated
[1292.42 --> 1293.64]  was my bearded
[1293.64 --> 1294.50]  dragon's cage
[1294.50 --> 1294.84]  lights.
[1295.38 --> 1295.62]  Yep.
[1295.74 --> 1296.24]  One of the first
[1296.24 --> 1296.80]  things I automated
[1296.80 --> 1297.32]  here in the studio
[1297.32 --> 1298.22]  was my fish tank
[1298.22 --> 1299.16]  lights so totally
[1299.16 --> 1299.86]  totally with you
[1299.86 --> 1300.16]  JT.
[1300.58 --> 1301.08]  He says
[1301.08 --> 1302.22]  which got rid of
[1302.22 --> 1302.80]  a terrible
[1302.80 --> 1303.84]  constantly clicking
[1303.84 --> 1304.70]  analog timer that
[1304.70 --> 1305.40]  I used to use.
[1305.40 --> 1306.68]  I also bought a
[1306.68 --> 1308.76]  D1 mini ESP8266
[1308.76 --> 1310.02]  Wi-Fi board and
[1310.02 --> 1311.54]  a BME280 temperature
[1311.54 --> 1312.44]  pressure and
[1312.44 --> 1313.86]  humidity sensor and
[1313.86 --> 1314.70]  combined them into
[1314.70 --> 1315.98]  an MQTT based
[1315.98 --> 1316.80]  sensor that home
[1316.80 --> 1317.78]  assistant uses to
[1317.78 --> 1318.48]  control the heat
[1318.48 --> 1319.40]  lamp in the cage.
[1319.50 --> 1320.62]  Heck yeah he did.
[1321.88 --> 1322.68]  That's great.
[1322.72 --> 1323.42]  That's next level.
[1323.82 --> 1324.74]  Talk about like you
[1324.74 --> 1327.30]  want a backup no
[1327.30 --> 1328.14]  fail state for that
[1328.14 --> 1328.36]  thing.
[1328.76 --> 1329.42]  He says the
[1329.42 --> 1330.36]  spousal approval
[1330.36 --> 1331.98]  factor was very high
[1331.98 --> 1333.00]  on these purchases
[1333.00 --> 1334.46]  and the time I
[1334.46 --> 1335.48]  spent learning to
[1335.48 --> 1336.22]  solder.
[1337.06 --> 1337.66]  That's great.
[1337.74 --> 1338.26]  Says thanks for the
[1338.26 --> 1338.92]  shows looking forward
[1338.92 --> 1339.52]  to the next one.
[1339.90 --> 1340.60]  Good to hear that
[1340.60 --> 1340.96]  JT.
[1341.06 --> 1341.62]  I love it when it
[1341.62 --> 1342.76]  works out and yeah
[1342.76 --> 1343.80]  for those of you who
[1343.80 --> 1344.54]  are new to the show
[1344.54 --> 1346.28]  cloudfree.shop is a
[1346.28 --> 1347.20]  community built store
[1347.20 --> 1349.50]  and we're official
[1349.50 --> 1350.40]  unofficial official
[1350.40 --> 1351.52]  sponsors or they are
[1351.52 --> 1353.06]  we just love them and
[1353.06 --> 1354.26]  we worked out a deal
[1354.26 --> 1355.24]  when you use the
[1355.24 --> 1356.42]  promo code and you
[1356.42 --> 1357.34]  get devices that
[1357.34 --> 1358.84]  don't have like the
[1358.84 --> 1359.74]  cloud connected stuff
[1359.74 --> 1360.16]  on there.
[1360.64 --> 1361.34]  You know sometimes I
[1361.34 --> 1362.02]  like a little cloud
[1362.02 --> 1362.70]  like I put a sync
[1362.70 --> 1363.34]  things over up in
[1363.34 --> 1364.30]  the cloud made
[1364.30 --> 1365.68]  stuff faster but
[1365.68 --> 1366.84]  the smart plug that
[1366.84 --> 1367.76]  controls the old fish
[1367.76 --> 1368.70]  tank I don't want any
[1368.70 --> 1369.40]  cloud involved with
[1369.40 --> 1370.34]  that you know it's
[1370.34 --> 1371.66]  just how it goes.
[1372.68 --> 1373.16]  And you also don't
[1373.16 --> 1373.68]  have to wait
[1373.68 --> 1374.42]  necessarily on the
[1374.42 --> 1375.02]  slow boat from
[1375.02 --> 1376.16]  China sometimes for
[1376.16 --> 1376.68]  these things to
[1376.68 --> 1377.38]  arrive so.
[1377.66 --> 1378.42]  True true.
[1378.66 --> 1379.52]  It is nice that they
[1379.52 --> 1380.56]  are stateside as well.
[1380.90 --> 1381.86]  Yeah that's good
[1381.86 --> 1382.50]  that's a good point.
[1383.78 --> 1385.22]  Ro wrote in about
[1385.22 --> 1386.48]  Powerline Finicky and
[1386.48 --> 1387.22]  I think the reason I
[1387.22 --> 1388.40]  included his email is
[1388.40 --> 1389.30]  because he referred to
[1389.30 --> 1390.80]  us as Chris and the
[1390.80 --> 1392.68]  Badger which I
[1392.70 --> 1395.00]  which gave me like
[1395.00 --> 1398.50]  this morning AM or
[1398.50 --> 1400.36]  FM radio vibe and I
[1400.36 --> 1401.14]  just pictured you and
[1401.14 --> 1402.42]  I doing a morning
[1402.42 --> 1405.44]  KWRAX Chris and the
[1405.44 --> 1406.48]  Badger yeah I can I
[1406.48 --> 1407.14]  can hear it now.
[1407.34 --> 1407.80]  It's Chris and the
[1407.80 --> 1408.16]  Badger.
[1409.76 --> 1410.64]  Welcome to Chris and
[1410.64 --> 1411.04]  the Badger.
[1411.18 --> 1411.68]  Chris and the Badger.
[1411.76 --> 1412.10]  Chris and the Badger.
[1412.18 --> 1412.96]  It's the Badger.
[1413.68 --> 1415.42]  Yeah I could see that.
[1416.62 --> 1418.06]  I want a listener now to
[1418.06 --> 1418.98]  try and make us a jingle
[1418.98 --> 1419.76]  Chris and the Badger
[1419.76 --> 1420.12]  please.
[1420.36 --> 1420.92]  That would be fun.
[1422.20 --> 1423.30]  Chris and the Badger in
[1423.30 --> 1423.74]  the morning.
[1424.46 --> 1425.48]  He says Chris I was
[1425.48 --> 1426.20]  surprised to hear about
[1426.20 --> 1426.82]  your experiences with
[1426.82 --> 1427.24]  Powerline.
[1427.34 --> 1427.92]  I've been using the
[1427.92 --> 1428.74]  TP-Link Powerline
[1428.74 --> 1429.36]  products for several
[1429.36 --> 1430.82]  years now and I've had
[1430.82 --> 1431.78]  mixed results and my
[1431.78 --> 1433.06]  experience it works but
[1433.06 --> 1434.20]  sometimes it has some
[1434.20 --> 1434.92]  problems that make it
[1434.92 --> 1436.92]  hard to really recommend
[1436.92 --> 1438.74]  and he tells me about
[1438.74 --> 1439.76]  different products that
[1439.76 --> 1440.32]  he's tried and
[1440.32 --> 1441.42]  troubleshooting and he
[1441.42 --> 1442.74]  has a pretty solid
[1442.74 --> 1443.76]  looking house layout.
[1444.00 --> 1444.32]  You know there's
[1444.32 --> 1445.36]  nothing too crazy about
[1445.36 --> 1445.92]  his electrical.
[1445.92 --> 1447.48]  It's a modern house
[1447.48 --> 1450.76]  and it's shorter than
[1450.76 --> 1451.78]  300 meters and all of
[1451.78 --> 1452.48]  that kind of stuff that
[1452.48 --> 1453.04]  you'd look at.
[1453.62 --> 1454.62]  But he says Powerline
[1454.62 --> 1455.56]  works but it's
[1455.56 --> 1456.64]  definitely nowhere as
[1456.64 --> 1457.86]  fast as wired Ethernet.
[1458.46 --> 1459.38]  In fact it isn't even
[1459.38 --> 1460.56]  as fast as some of the
[1460.56 --> 1462.58]  mesh Wi-Fi that he's
[1462.58 --> 1462.88]  tested.
[1462.98 --> 1463.60]  So he did several
[1463.60 --> 1464.28]  different kind of speed
[1464.28 --> 1465.16]  tests for us and said
[1465.16 --> 1467.80]  in all he is able to
[1467.80 --> 1469.06]  get better performance on
[1469.06 --> 1471.32]  mesh Wi-Fi but in some
[1471.32 --> 1473.00]  situations where Wi-Fi
[1473.00 --> 1473.74]  didn't reach or there
[1473.74 --> 1475.38]  was other issues he was
[1475.38 --> 1476.30]  still able to get
[1476.30 --> 1477.70]  around 100, 150
[1477.70 --> 1478.92]  megabits with his
[1478.92 --> 1479.84]  Powerline adapters.
[1480.58 --> 1481.54]  In one case depending
[1481.54 --> 1482.44]  on a product he tried he
[1482.44 --> 1483.38]  was able to get 300
[1483.38 --> 1485.22]  megabits which that's
[1485.22 --> 1485.88]  pretty respectable.
[1486.12 --> 1486.76]  That's really all I'd
[1486.76 --> 1487.52]  want over Powerline.
[1487.70 --> 1488.50]  I'm not expecting
[1488.50 --> 1489.00]  gigabit.
[1489.46 --> 1490.14]  I mean if all you're
[1490.14 --> 1492.28]  doing is streaming you
[1492.28 --> 1493.50]  know on Cody or
[1493.50 --> 1494.44]  something like that you
[1494.44 --> 1495.00]  know that's all you
[1495.00 --> 1495.38]  need.
[1495.58 --> 1496.58]  He points out and it's
[1496.58 --> 1497.14]  a great thing to
[1497.14 --> 1498.82]  consider is a little
[1498.82 --> 1501.26]  play of words that
[1501.26 --> 1502.60]  these manufacturers use.
[1502.84 --> 1503.20]  Yes.
[1503.38 --> 1504.06]  And I haven't verified
[1504.06 --> 1504.92]  this but according to
[1504.92 --> 1506.30]  him he says when they
[1506.30 --> 1507.28]  say it's a gigabit
[1507.28 --> 1508.74]  they mean it's a
[1508.74 --> 1509.44]  gigabit when you
[1509.44 --> 1510.52]  combine the send and
[1510.52 --> 1510.94]  the receive.
[1511.52 --> 1512.86]  It's actually half a
[1512.86 --> 1514.68]  gigabit in both
[1514.68 --> 1515.24]  directions.
[1515.62 --> 1516.68]  In a perfect world
[1516.68 --> 1517.86]  when there is no wind
[1517.86 --> 1518.46]  outside.
[1519.14 --> 1519.32]  Right.
[1519.56 --> 1520.56]  They're about one
[1520.56 --> 1521.54]  centimeter apart
[1521.54 --> 1522.44]  probably yes.
[1522.92 --> 1523.96]  So if you get a two
[1523.96 --> 1525.34]  gigabit model which
[1525.34 --> 1526.30]  there are two gigabit
[1526.30 --> 1527.30]  units then it's one
[1527.30 --> 1528.22]  gigabit send one
[1528.22 --> 1529.24]  gigabit receive and it's
[1529.24 --> 1531.16]  actually a one gigabit
[1531.16 --> 1532.22]  unit the way we think of
[1532.22 --> 1532.92]  it in terms of like
[1532.92 --> 1533.76]  ethernet adapters.
[1534.40 --> 1535.12]  So that's a little
[1535.12 --> 1536.08]  trick of rooskies that
[1536.08 --> 1537.40]  they like to pull that
[1537.40 --> 1537.92]  when they're quoting
[1537.92 --> 1539.00]  speeds they're quoting
[1539.00 --> 1540.74]  just a send or receive.
[1541.76 --> 1542.70]  But we got lots of
[1542.70 --> 1543.10]  other feedback.
[1543.22 --> 1544.02]  Some people thought that
[1544.02 --> 1545.04]  it was that maybe I'd
[1545.04 --> 1545.84]  have better performance
[1545.84 --> 1546.58]  if I didn't have solar
[1546.58 --> 1549.80]  panels on the RV that
[1549.80 --> 1550.50]  they thought maybe that
[1550.50 --> 1551.78]  was causing some high
[1551.78 --> 1552.80]  degree of interference
[1552.80 --> 1553.82]  just because of you know
[1553.82 --> 1554.70]  the intensity of that.
[1554.86 --> 1556.34]  But those systems are
[1556.34 --> 1557.02]  totally separate.
[1557.36 --> 1559.14]  The house power doesn't
[1559.14 --> 1560.26]  connect to like the
[1560.26 --> 1562.14]  charge controller or the
[1562.14 --> 1562.90]  batteries directly.
[1563.30 --> 1564.16]  Yeah because a lot of
[1564.16 --> 1565.54]  folks wrote in and said
[1565.54 --> 1567.34]  that if you have coax in
[1567.34 --> 1567.94]  your walls you can
[1567.94 --> 1569.66]  actually get power line
[1569.66 --> 1572.72]  over coax adapters and
[1572.72 --> 1573.50]  because they're not
[1573.50 --> 1575.12]  carrying any signal in
[1575.12 --> 1576.58]  modern houses generally
[1576.58 --> 1578.68]  speaking anymore you can
[1578.68 --> 1579.70]  actually get away with
[1579.70 --> 1581.80]  you know running ethernet
[1581.80 --> 1583.90]  over those and they're a
[1583.90 --> 1585.06]  very clean signal so you
[1585.06 --> 1585.80]  get better performance
[1585.80 --> 1586.20]  that way.
[1586.58 --> 1587.32]  That could be worth
[1587.32 --> 1587.90]  looking into.
[1588.20 --> 1590.26]  You know I got a couple
[1590.26 --> 1591.54]  of spots that have coax
[1591.54 --> 1592.10]  pre-run.
[1593.00 --> 1593.82]  That's interesting.
[1594.14 --> 1594.32]  Hmm.
[1594.66 --> 1594.94]  Hmm.
[1595.06 --> 1595.78]  I don't know Alex.
[1595.86 --> 1597.80]  Maybe one day in the
[1597.80 --> 1598.42]  future.
[1599.24 --> 1600.90]  Brad wrote in about a
[1600.90 --> 1603.54]  killer MOBO with QuickSync.
[1603.54 --> 1604.68]  Yeah he's found the
[1604.68 --> 1608.16]  ASRock J5040 ITX board.
[1608.50 --> 1609.74]  It's a mini ITX form
[1609.74 --> 1611.00]  factor with a quad core
[1611.00 --> 1613.92]  Pentium chip and it has
[1613.92 --> 1615.54]  QuickSync version 605.
[1615.54 --> 1617.96]  Now he wrote in about
[1617.96 --> 1619.70]  this one because of
[1619.70 --> 1620.50]  energy usage.
[1620.64 --> 1621.96]  This one idles he says
[1621.96 --> 1624.48]  between 10 and 15 watts
[1624.48 --> 1624.86]  only.
[1625.42 --> 1627.40]  But it also has four
[1627.40 --> 1628.50]  SATA ports which I
[1628.50 --> 1630.56]  thought hmm this would
[1630.56 --> 1632.38]  make a really nice sort
[1632.38 --> 1633.54]  of NAS motherboard
[1633.54 --> 1634.54]  potentially because you
[1634.54 --> 1635.60]  know four hard drives
[1635.60 --> 1637.74]  a small enclosure low
[1637.74 --> 1639.58]  power draw QuickSync.
[1640.40 --> 1641.08]  You know you're pushing
[1641.08 --> 1642.24]  my buttons here Brad.
[1642.60 --> 1643.16]  Yeah really.
[1643.16 --> 1643.96]  Me too.
[1644.32 --> 1645.06]  It looks like a really
[1645.06 --> 1645.74]  nice motherboard.
[1645.88 --> 1649.66]  Yeah this ASRock J5040
[1649.66 --> 1650.16]  ITX.
[1650.96 --> 1651.74]  We'll put a link in the
[1651.74 --> 1653.72]  in the show notes.
[1654.02 --> 1655.30]  But that hardware
[1655.30 --> 1656.16]  acceleration that
[1656.78 --> 1658.00]  QuickSync boy that that
[1658.00 --> 1658.84]  is looking really good.
[1658.96 --> 1660.02]  And this you could
[1660.02 --> 1661.28]  totally build I bet you
[1661.28 --> 1662.76]  for if you had the
[1662.76 --> 1665.16]  storage I bet two
[1665.70 --> 1666.40]  three hundred dollars
[1666.40 --> 1667.64]  to build a nice system
[1667.64 --> 1668.30]  with a decent little
[1668.30 --> 1668.70]  case.
[1668.88 --> 1669.82]  There's some memory
[1669.82 --> 1670.64]  around this thing.
[1671.06 --> 1672.82]  It's a passive CPU as
[1672.82 --> 1674.80]  well so it takes it
[1674.80 --> 1675.70]  doesn't need a fan on
[1675.70 --> 1676.18]  the CPU.
[1676.92 --> 1678.06]  Also it takes a
[1678.06 --> 1679.50]  laptop style SO
[1679.50 --> 1680.58]  DIM memory.
[1681.32 --> 1682.22]  So this thing is tiny.
[1682.34 --> 1682.86]  It's got a couple of
[1682.86 --> 1684.46]  M2 slots on there for
[1684.46 --> 1685.36]  Wi-Fi if you want.
[1686.10 --> 1687.50]  So yeah yeah go go
[1687.50 --> 1688.10]  ahead and check that
[1688.10 --> 1688.36]  one out.
[1688.42 --> 1688.90]  That looks like a
[1688.90 --> 1689.96]  really really useful
[1689.96 --> 1690.50]  little build.
[1690.96 --> 1691.80]  Stefan wrote in to tell
[1691.80 --> 1692.72]  us about some benchmarks
[1692.72 --> 1693.80]  in German that show
[1693.80 --> 1694.72]  that the latest AMD
[1694.72 --> 1696.70]  desktop APUs are
[1696.70 --> 1698.10]  getting idle power well
[1698.10 --> 1700.22]  below 10 watts and
[1700.22 --> 1700.72]  depending on the
[1700.72 --> 1701.70]  motherboard as low
[1701.70 --> 1702.52]  as six or seven
[1702.52 --> 1702.92]  watts.
[1703.44 --> 1704.16]  So it seems like
[1704.16 --> 1704.72]  there's something to
[1704.72 --> 1705.42]  watch there too.
[1705.86 --> 1706.72]  Oh I'm trying to
[1706.72 --> 1707.88]  avoid buying a Ryzen
[1707.88 --> 1708.46]  5000.
[1709.12 --> 1710.04]  I'm really trying to
[1710.04 --> 1711.74]  avoid it but stuff
[1711.74 --> 1713.06]  like that makes me
[1713.06 --> 1713.96]  want to buy one.
[1715.86 --> 1716.68]  Hey while we're doing
[1716.68 --> 1717.30]  feedback I want to
[1717.30 --> 1717.92]  take a moment and
[1717.92 --> 1719.38]  mention that a cloud
[1719.38 --> 1720.86]  guru has a Python 3
[1720.86 --> 1722.18]  scripting course for
[1722.18 --> 1723.08]  system administrators
[1723.08 --> 1724.50]  where you can develop
[1724.50 --> 1725.24]  the skills you need to
[1725.24 --> 1725.98]  write effective and
[1725.98 --> 1727.32]  powerful scripts and
[1727.32 --> 1728.46]  create command line
[1728.46 --> 1730.56]  tools using Python 3.
[1730.56 --> 1731.18]  So in the course
[1731.18 --> 1731.46]  you're going to
[1731.46 --> 1732.02]  develop skills you
[1732.02 --> 1732.36]  need to write
[1732.36 --> 1732.88]  effective and
[1732.88 --> 1733.54]  powerful Python
[1733.54 --> 1734.90]  scripts and it's
[1734.90 --> 1736.00]  it's a big one.
[1736.10 --> 1736.50]  So beyond the
[1736.50 --> 1737.24]  language itself you'll
[1737.24 --> 1737.88]  go through the full
[1737.88 --> 1738.62]  development process
[1738.62 --> 1739.36]  including project
[1739.36 --> 1740.12]  setup, planning,
[1740.74 --> 1741.78]  automated testing to
[1741.78 --> 1742.30]  build two different
[1742.30 --> 1743.10]  command line tools and
[1743.10 --> 1743.34]  more.
[1743.82 --> 1744.46]  So check out the link
[1744.46 --> 1745.20]  we'll have in the
[1745.20 --> 1746.16]  show notes for the
[1746.16 --> 1747.22]  Python 3 scripting for
[1747.22 --> 1748.02]  system administrators
[1748.02 --> 1749.52]  at cloudguru.com.
[1750.90 --> 1751.94]  Hey so I'm sat here
[1751.94 --> 1752.34]  whilst we were
[1752.34 --> 1753.30]  recording and thought
[1753.30 --> 1754.22]  my feet are cold.
[1754.64 --> 1755.20]  So whilst you were
[1755.20 --> 1756.28]  reading that ad spot
[1756.28 --> 1757.56]  I logged into my
[1757.56 --> 1758.20]  home assistant and
[1758.20 --> 1758.86]  just bumped up the
[1758.86 --> 1759.76]  thermostat a little bit.
[1760.56 --> 1762.94]  It's nice isn't it?
[1763.56 --> 1764.42]  Yep, yep.
[1764.64 --> 1765.54]  I think my favorite
[1765.54 --> 1767.66]  still is because of
[1767.66 --> 1768.10]  the HomeKit
[1768.10 --> 1769.76]  integration when I'm
[1769.76 --> 1771.14]  driving home I just
[1771.14 --> 1771.84]  push a button on the
[1771.84 --> 1772.96]  steering wheel and I
[1772.96 --> 1775.10]  tell the computer just
[1775.10 --> 1776.26]  to turn on you know
[1776.26 --> 1777.04]  the heaters to extra
[1777.04 --> 1777.24]  heat.
[1777.44 --> 1778.00]  We have an extra heat
[1778.00 --> 1778.52]  mode that kind of
[1778.52 --> 1779.06]  brings up the
[1779.06 --> 1780.22]  temperature more a
[1780.22 --> 1781.48]  little quicker and
[1781.48 --> 1782.28]  so when I buy the
[1782.28 --> 1782.84]  and turn on the
[1782.84 --> 1783.10]  lights.
[1783.44 --> 1783.96]  So when I get home
[1783.96 --> 1784.78]  all the lights are on
[1784.78 --> 1786.06]  place is nice and
[1786.06 --> 1786.34]  toasty.
[1786.34 --> 1788.68]  Oh I've been
[1788.68 --> 1789.32]  thinking about like
[1789.32 --> 1790.42]  an NFC tag on the
[1790.42 --> 1791.16]  dashboard or something
[1791.16 --> 1791.82]  that I could just
[1791.82 --> 1792.62]  tap with my phone
[1792.62 --> 1792.96]  maybe.
[1793.66 --> 1794.68]  I haven't done it but
[1794.68 --> 1795.22]  I've been thinking
[1795.22 --> 1795.70]  about it.
[1796.18 --> 1796.58]  I've been thinking
[1796.58 --> 1797.14]  about that too.
[1797.20 --> 1797.84]  I actually have an
[1797.84 --> 1798.70]  NFC tag at the
[1798.70 --> 1800.06]  door out the
[1800.06 --> 1800.78]  studio so on my
[1800.78 --> 1801.28]  way out the
[1801.28 --> 1802.36]  studio I can tap it
[1802.36 --> 1803.10]  and right now it
[1803.10 --> 1803.70]  just kind of sends
[1803.70 --> 1804.40]  like an alert to the
[1804.40 --> 1805.86]  wife with an ETA
[1805.86 --> 1807.04]  and all of that kind
[1807.04 --> 1807.98]  of stuff you know
[1807.98 --> 1808.82]  based on my location
[1808.82 --> 1810.28]  and her location but
[1810.28 --> 1810.96]  I have been thinking
[1810.96 --> 1811.58]  man it'd be pretty
[1811.58 --> 1812.98]  great to tie that in
[1812.98 --> 1814.22]  with the heating and
[1814.22 --> 1815.12]  the lighting check to
[1815.12 --> 1815.72]  see if it's on or
[1815.72 --> 1815.98]  not.
[1816.54 --> 1817.80]  NFC tags and all of
[1817.80 --> 1819.06]  that is probably still
[1819.06 --> 1820.28]  the most underutilized
[1820.28 --> 1821.62]  area because on iOS
[1821.62 --> 1823.78]  it kind of sucks and I
[1823.78 --> 1824.48]  think it's similar on
[1824.48 --> 1825.22]  Android but not quite
[1825.22 --> 1825.88]  the same where on
[1825.88 --> 1827.26]  iOS it just brings up
[1827.26 --> 1827.74]  as far as I
[1827.74 --> 1828.62]  understand it a
[1828.62 --> 1829.68]  notification prompt
[1829.68 --> 1830.34]  that you then have to
[1830.34 --> 1832.64]  tap to execute the
[1832.64 --> 1834.46]  NFC automation and
[1834.46 --> 1835.12]  that just sounds like
[1835.12 --> 1835.52]  garbage.
[1836.04 --> 1837.00]  Not true on Android I
[1837.00 --> 1838.06]  just tap the tag and
[1838.06 --> 1839.02]  my garage door opens
[1839.02 --> 1839.58]  it's amazing.
[1840.26 --> 1840.94]  That's what I want.
[1841.34 --> 1842.32]  I can kind of see
[1842.32 --> 1843.52]  maybe why Apple did it
[1843.52 --> 1844.30]  this way for
[1844.30 --> 1846.02]  novices who you
[1846.02 --> 1846.76]  know they don't they
[1846.76 --> 1847.46]  don't want to execute
[1847.46 --> 1848.30]  stuff randomly on
[1848.30 --> 1850.44]  their phone but man
[1850.44 --> 1852.22]  I totally appreciate
[1852.22 --> 1853.24]  that but I just would
[1853.24 --> 1854.16]  love a setting to say
[1854.16 --> 1855.28]  don't require user
[1855.28 --> 1855.78]  interaction.
[1856.12 --> 1856.22]  Yeah.
[1856.34 --> 1857.38]  It just sort of kills
[1857.38 --> 1857.78]  the usefulness.
[1857.90 --> 1859.02]  I have also here on
[1859.02 --> 1860.42]  the studio mixer I
[1860.42 --> 1861.94]  have an NFC tag because
[1861.94 --> 1862.74]  for some reason
[1862.74 --> 1863.60]  Behringer thought it'd
[1863.60 --> 1864.42]  be a great idea to put
[1864.42 --> 1865.70]  a like a phone holder
[1865.70 --> 1866.74]  on the mixer because
[1866.74 --> 1867.46]  the ideas are going to
[1867.46 --> 1867.84]  use like their
[1867.84 --> 1868.78]  touchscreen app on your
[1868.78 --> 1870.94]  phone and so I have a
[1870.94 --> 1871.58]  spot where my phone
[1871.58 --> 1873.88]  sits and I just put an
[1873.88 --> 1874.80]  NFC tag in that spot
[1874.80 --> 1875.86]  just set my phone to
[1875.86 --> 1877.32]  D&D and turn on the
[1877.32 --> 1878.24]  studio lights which are
[1878.24 --> 1879.14]  on home assistant and
[1879.14 --> 1879.66]  all that.
[1880.66 --> 1881.44]  Oli wrote into the
[1881.44 --> 1882.44]  holiday mailbag and
[1882.44 --> 1883.16]  said I'm a long time
[1883.16 --> 1883.98]  listener occasional
[1883.98 --> 1885.22]  disc order from Norway
[1885.22 --> 1886.88]  and we talk about
[1886.88 --> 1887.58]  storage setups on the
[1887.58 --> 1888.46]  show a little bit but
[1888.46 --> 1889.14]  I'd love you to go into
[1889.14 --> 1890.46]  some details with
[1890.46 --> 1891.88]  setups ranging from
[1891.88 --> 1892.70]  smaller setups to
[1892.70 --> 1893.26]  bigger setups.
[1893.74 --> 1894.10]  Do you have any
[1894.10 --> 1895.18]  strategies deciding on
[1895.18 --> 1896.66]  what you invest in?
[1897.30 --> 1898.28]  My backups are going to
[1898.28 --> 1899.44]  backblaze but I'm
[1899.44 --> 1900.48]  rethinking things a little
[1900.48 --> 1901.18]  bit and I think I want
[1901.18 --> 1901.88]  more sane local
[1901.88 --> 1903.16]  storage but I'm a
[1903.16 --> 1903.84]  little put off at the
[1903.84 --> 1904.18]  price.
[1905.20 --> 1905.80]  What would be a sweet
[1905.80 --> 1906.56]  spot in terms of
[1906.56 --> 1908.00]  discs and storage for
[1908.00 --> 1909.18]  about an 8 terabyte
[1909.18 --> 1910.42]  media collection as
[1910.42 --> 1910.94]  well as some more
[1910.94 --> 1912.00]  personal media like
[1912.00 --> 1913.26]  photos that I just
[1913.26 --> 1914.02]  don't want to lose?
[1914.42 --> 1915.02]  Any links would be
[1915.02 --> 1915.44]  great too.
[1915.84 --> 1916.78]  Man this question was
[1916.78 --> 1917.76]  made for me wasn't it?
[1917.88 --> 1919.00]  It really was.
[1919.34 --> 1921.74]  So perfectmediaserver.com
[1921.74 --> 1923.84]  first of all I think is
[1923.84 --> 1925.14]  where I will send you in
[1925.14 --> 1926.96]  the first instance to
[1926.96 --> 1927.52]  look at the software
[1927.52 --> 1928.20]  side of things.
[1928.80 --> 1930.06]  I will be building up the
[1930.06 --> 1931.04]  hardware recommendations
[1931.04 --> 1932.12]  section of that site
[1932.12 --> 1932.80]  over the next few
[1932.80 --> 1935.06]  months but really I
[1935.06 --> 1935.86]  would just take a look
[1935.86 --> 1937.06]  at serverbuilds.net.
[1937.38 --> 1938.82]  They have some amazing
[1938.82 --> 1940.84]  used enterprise gear and
[1940.84 --> 1942.06]  I know it's quite a US
[1942.06 --> 1944.28]  centric website but you
[1944.28 --> 1945.16]  can still get a lot of
[1945.16 --> 1946.26]  good ideas about what to
[1946.26 --> 1947.34]  use like QuickSync for
[1947.34 --> 1949.08]  example that that came
[1949.08 --> 1950.42]  from JDM the guy behind
[1950.42 --> 1951.40]  that site who we've had on
[1951.40 --> 1953.32]  the show before and just
[1953.32 --> 1953.98]  take a look at what
[1953.98 --> 1954.86]  they're doing and the
[1954.86 --> 1956.12]  trends and the way the
[1956.12 --> 1957.34]  industry is going with
[1957.34 --> 1958.48]  what those guys are doing
[1958.48 --> 1959.26]  over there at server
[1959.26 --> 1961.32]  builds and I think you
[1961.32 --> 1961.96]  can probably get away
[1961.96 --> 1963.56]  with a fairly minimal
[1963.56 --> 1964.38]  kind of setup.
[1964.54 --> 1965.06]  So you've got 8
[1965.06 --> 1966.16]  terabytes worth of stuff
[1966.16 --> 1967.78]  you want to store so I
[1967.78 --> 1969.16]  would buy a hard drive
[1969.16 --> 1971.46]  that is at least 8
[1971.46 --> 1972.78]  probably 10 or 12
[1972.78 --> 1973.74]  terabytes so you've got a
[1973.74 --> 1975.58]  bit of headroom and buy
[1975.58 --> 1976.74]  a pair of them so that
[1976.74 --> 1978.64]  you you know can have
[1978.64 --> 1980.24]  full redundancy.
[1981.12 --> 1981.92]  You're already using
[1981.92 --> 1983.48]  Backblaze so you know
[1983.48 --> 1985.48]  raid is not backup is a
[1985.48 --> 1986.70]  very common phrase that
[1986.70 --> 1987.60]  you'll hear people say.
[1987.60 --> 1989.60]  Make sure that you have
[1989.60 --> 1991.96]  everything duplicated in
[1991.96 --> 1993.82]  at least two different
[1993.82 --> 1994.82]  physical locations.
[1995.50 --> 1996.56]  So even if that just
[1996.56 --> 1998.84]  takes the form of you
[1998.84 --> 1999.88]  know a USB hard drive
[1999.88 --> 2000.48]  that you leave at your
[2000.48 --> 2001.28]  parents house when you
[2001.28 --> 2002.84]  go and see them one day
[2002.84 --> 2005.38]  in the future who knows
[2005.38 --> 2007.92]  you know the world is so
[2007.92 --> 2009.00]  different right now but
[2009.00 --> 2011.46]  if it's just a USB hard
[2011.46 --> 2012.76]  drive in a drawer at a
[2012.76 --> 2014.02]  parents house then that
[2014.02 --> 2015.08]  will do the trick as well
[2015.08 --> 2015.78]  you know in a lot of
[2015.78 --> 2016.96]  situations unless you
[2016.96 --> 2019.10]  have lots of media being
[2019.10 --> 2019.98]  added all the time but
[2019.98 --> 2020.66]  I don't think that's the
[2020.66 --> 2021.58]  use case for a lot of
[2021.58 --> 2021.80]  people.
[2021.98 --> 2023.68]  I think most people those
[2023.68 --> 2024.98]  kind of periodical backups
[2024.98 --> 2026.90]  every three to six
[2026.90 --> 2028.04]  months is probably
[2028.04 --> 2028.70]  sufficient.
[2029.78 --> 2032.52]  So build yourself you
[2032.52 --> 2035.42]  know a small mini ITX
[2035.42 --> 2037.80]  couple of bay box and
[2037.80 --> 2039.62]  you know stick the
[2039.62 --> 2040.82]  perfect media server stack
[2040.82 --> 2041.60]  on there and you'll be
[2041.60 --> 2042.02]  good to go.
[2042.02 --> 2043.94]  Yeah thankfully eight
[2043.94 --> 2045.02]  terabytes is a really
[2045.02 --> 2046.86]  pretty pretty doable
[2046.86 --> 2047.64]  problem to solve.
[2048.14 --> 2048.86]  So you know of course
[2048.86 --> 2049.60]  you want more than that
[2049.60 --> 2050.34]  you're gonna you know at
[2050.34 --> 2051.70]  least at least I'd say go
[2051.70 --> 2053.28]  12 terabytes if not more
[2053.28 --> 2054.74]  if you already are using
[2054.74 --> 2056.34]  eight terabytes and you
[2056.34 --> 2056.90]  could probably even
[2056.90 --> 2058.84]  justify a bit more than
[2058.84 --> 2059.06]  that.
[2059.48 --> 2060.54]  That's some great strategy
[2060.54 --> 2061.70]  advice right there and
[2061.70 --> 2062.74]  perfect timing for the
[2062.74 --> 2064.54]  show too so so best of
[2064.54 --> 2064.78]  luck.
[2065.12 --> 2066.20]  I would take a look at
[2066.20 --> 2069.04]  amazon.de quite often
[2069.04 --> 2070.94]  have the Western Digital
[2070.94 --> 2072.28]  what are they called
[2072.28 --> 2072.68]  over there?
[2072.98 --> 2073.80]  They're not easy stores
[2073.80 --> 2074.62]  because they're Best Buy
[2074.62 --> 2075.74]  like US centric ones
[2075.74 --> 2077.66]  they're called MyBooks I
[2077.66 --> 2078.74]  think in Europe.
[2079.30 --> 2080.66]  You can quite often get
[2080.66 --> 2082.50]  those for a you know 10
[2082.50 --> 2084.06]  12 14 terabyte hard drive
[2084.06 --> 2086.34]  in the 200 250 euro
[2086.34 --> 2088.16]  range so that would be a
[2088.16 --> 2089.14]  good place to start it's
[2089.14 --> 2089.72]  not going to be super
[2089.72 --> 2090.08]  cheap.
[2090.74 --> 2092.76]  My philosophy with regards
[2092.76 --> 2094.84]  to how much local storage
[2094.84 --> 2096.58]  do I need versus cloud is
[2096.58 --> 2099.36]  it's up to you right it's
[2099.36 --> 2101.42]  it's your personal risk
[2101.42 --> 2103.28]  profile or and how
[2103.28 --> 2104.84]  important is this data to
[2104.84 --> 2105.14]  you?
[2106.04 --> 2106.82]  Are you going to be upset
[2106.82 --> 2108.44]  if if backblaze and I
[2108.44 --> 2108.86]  don't know if they're
[2108.86 --> 2110.28]  going to but if they turn
[2110.28 --> 2111.60]  around next week and you
[2111.60 --> 2112.76]  know triple their prices
[2112.76 --> 2113.36]  what are you going to do
[2113.36 --> 2114.02]  if that happens?
[2115.02 --> 2116.16]  If you have a hard drive
[2116.16 --> 2118.54]  in your closet you know
[2118.54 --> 2120.40]  up front what that cost is
[2120.40 --> 2121.20]  going to be what the total
[2121.20 --> 2122.22]  cost of ownership for that
[2122.22 --> 2124.10]  that storage is going to be
[2124.10 --> 2125.04]  and there's there'll be no
[2125.04 --> 2126.10]  surprises or anything like
[2126.10 --> 2127.72]  that so I mean you're
[2127.72 --> 2128.38]  talking to a guy that's got
[2128.38 --> 2129.36]  100 terabytes in his
[2129.36 --> 2130.42]  basement so maybe I'm not
[2130.42 --> 2132.26]  the right guy to speak to
[2132.26 --> 2132.88]  you know.
[2133.14 --> 2134.12]  And the other guy who's
[2134.12 --> 2134.84]  like I need to get more
[2134.84 --> 2135.88]  disk as fast as possible
[2135.88 --> 2136.96]  I've only got 12 terabytes
[2136.96 --> 2138.94]  free right now like yeah
[2138.94 --> 2141.46]  yeah but really there's so
[2141.46 --> 2143.56]  many ways to solve it but
[2143.56 --> 2144.58]  I'd love to hear what you
[2144.58 --> 2145.78]  do so go to self-hosted
[2145.78 --> 2146.90]  dot show slash contact to
[2146.90 --> 2148.50]  update us and then Scott
[2148.50 --> 2149.32]  wrote in with another
[2149.32 --> 2150.90]  another question I have a
[2150.90 --> 2152.14]  sense the audience may have
[2152.14 --> 2153.30]  a few answers for us so
[2153.30 --> 2154.42]  keep that contact link in
[2154.42 --> 2155.88]  mind he says I was hoping
[2155.88 --> 2156.52]  you could make a
[2156.52 --> 2158.00]  recommendation for self-hosted
[2158.00 --> 2160.60]  online cookbook my mother
[2160.60 --> 2162.34]  has a huge cookbook full of
[2162.34 --> 2164.48]  old family recipes which I
[2164.48 --> 2165.52]  would like to digitalize
[2165.52 --> 2168.16]  ideally with OCR and the
[2168.16 --> 2169.44]  ability to take and search
[2169.44 --> 2170.48]  the recipes as well as
[2170.48 --> 2172.00]  preserving original image of
[2172.00 --> 2173.36]  the old handwritten family
[2173.36 --> 2175.60]  recipe Scott I love this
[2175.60 --> 2177.32]  idea what do you think
[2177.32 --> 2178.70]  Alex has anything come to
[2178.70 --> 2180.12]  mind for you well we
[2180.12 --> 2181.68]  covered chow down a little
[2181.68 --> 2183.40]  while ago as a self-hosted
[2183.40 --> 2185.26]  recipes app there is another
[2185.26 --> 2186.98]  one which whilst we're doing
[2186.98 --> 2188.44]  this segment I will try and
[2188.44 --> 2190.02]  find which I can't remember
[2190.02 --> 2191.86]  right now but there is also
[2191.86 --> 2194.22]  an old JB project isn't it
[2194.22 --> 2196.26]  yeah that's true that is true
[2196.26 --> 2198.56]  there is the the open your
[2198.56 --> 2200.30]  mouth recipes which we
[2200.30 --> 2201.56]  actually used GitHub and
[2201.56 --> 2203.30]  Markdown for those I was
[2203.30 --> 2204.18]  thinking you know Scott could
[2204.18 --> 2206.54]  get started with even out any
[2206.54 --> 2207.96]  without any software selected
[2207.96 --> 2209.36]  yet by just getting good
[2209.36 --> 2212.26]  quality captures of those cards
[2212.26 --> 2213.84]  and he's gonna want probably
[2213.84 --> 2214.98]  something he can take over to
[2214.98 --> 2216.90]  grandma's house or mom's house
[2216.90 --> 2219.98]  or whoever whoever the the
[2219.98 --> 2220.70]  family members you want to
[2220.70 --> 2221.60]  capture these from because why
[2221.60 --> 2223.14]  not get them all right you
[2223.14 --> 2224.50]  could probably get away with
[2224.50 --> 2226.56]  something like scan bot or the
[2226.56 --> 2229.16]  other available scanning apps on
[2229.16 --> 2230.02]  your phone but you might look
[2230.02 --> 2231.10]  into scanner options too and
[2231.10 --> 2232.80]  just start there start getting the
[2232.80 --> 2234.86]  high quality images from there and
[2234.86 --> 2237.06]  then the software will come I
[2237.06 --> 2238.60]  found it okay it's called
[2238.60 --> 2243.70]  vapeen 1111 slash recipes what a
[2243.70 --> 2245.68]  catchy name huh it's a Django
[2245.68 --> 2247.26]  application designed for managing
[2247.26 --> 2249.96]  recipes and it's a web app so I
[2249.96 --> 2251.56]  would imagine it runs out of a
[2251.56 --> 2253.52]  container but it's got a search
[2253.52 --> 2256.26]  built on top of Django's trigram
[2256.26 --> 2259.24]  similarity search engine and it
[2259.24 --> 2260.72]  allows you to create and search for
[2260.72 --> 2263.28]  tags and assign them in batches to
[2263.28 --> 2264.64]  certain files matching certain
[2264.64 --> 2266.90]  criteria it will sync with both
[2266.90 --> 2269.80]  dropbox and next cloud with more
[2269.80 --> 2271.62]  support being added every every
[2271.62 --> 2273.96]  week and you can import lots of
[2273.96 --> 2275.72]  recipes from different websites
[2275.72 --> 2278.14]  with JSON objects and stuff like
[2278.14 --> 2279.94]  that and there are also apps for
[2279.94 --> 2281.52]  mobile devices like phones and
[2281.52 --> 2283.96]  tablets so yeah lots and lots of
[2283.96 --> 2285.80]  stuff in there runs in a docker
[2285.80 --> 2289.38]  this is what the reddit collective
[2289.38 --> 2292.98]  thought recommends at the moment so I
[2292.98 --> 2294.56]  haven't tried this one I just
[2294.56 --> 2295.72]  haven't got to it but it's on my
[2295.72 --> 2297.00]  short list so go and take a look at
[2297.00 --> 2299.10]  that link in the show notes I also
[2299.10 --> 2302.16]  recall that groceries had a bit of a
[2302.16 --> 2304.12]  recipe manager I don't recall how
[2304.12 --> 2306.76]  extensive it was but that's a past
[2306.76 --> 2308.92]  pick too so we'll put links to all of
[2308.92 --> 2310.06]  these the one that Alex just talked
[2310.06 --> 2312.02]  about you could see the example of
[2312.02 --> 2313.34]  how we used open your mouth on
[2313.34 --> 2315.08]  github and just made it a community
[2315.08 --> 2316.30]  project so you could have multiple
[2316.30 --> 2317.78]  family members that contribute that
[2317.78 --> 2320.02]  way or perhaps somebody out there will
[2320.02 --> 2322.34]  know a great software project that we
[2322.34 --> 2323.86]  haven't mentioned and inform us all
[2323.86 --> 2325.40]  itself posted that show slash contact
[2325.40 --> 2327.58]  the last one in our holiday
[2327.58 --> 2329.82]  extravaganza mailbag here is a jasua
[2329.82 --> 2332.90]  writes in regarding thoughts that were
[2332.90 --> 2334.84]  inspired by self hosted episode 33
[2334.84 --> 2337.58]  triggered by the helio 64 discussion he
[2337.58 --> 2338.92]  says hey guys I was listening to your
[2338.92 --> 2340.82]  review of the helio 64 with some
[2340.82 --> 2342.38]  interest since I am the owner of their
[2342.38 --> 2344.86]  previous product the helios for I
[2345.56 --> 2346.92]  believe the points you make about
[2346.92 --> 2348.84]  software are quite valid yet I'd like to
[2348.84 --> 2350.46]  point out that there's a really hard
[2350.46 --> 2353.02]  problem to solve I work personally with
[2353.02 --> 2355.40]  a company in Israel that makes SBCs and
[2355.40 --> 2358.62]  SOMs mostly with ARM based system on
[2358.62 --> 2361.06]  chips it's my job to make Debian
[2361.06 --> 2362.76]  available for each product to their
[2362.76 --> 2365.62]  customers long ago when I started I
[2365.62 --> 2367.12]  really wanted to do this the right way
[2367.12 --> 2369.14]  I submitted bug reports and patches to
[2369.14 --> 2370.50]  the Debian project for enabling all
[2370.50 --> 2373.04]  kinds of small things a kernel.config for
[2373.04 --> 2374.68]  a driver here a customized boot script
[2374.68 --> 2377.12]  there enabling open GL ES backends and
[2377.12 --> 2379.88]  shared libraries and continuously watching
[2379.88 --> 2382.42]  and testing the distributions for things
[2382.42 --> 2385.04]  that break turns out I never got to the
[2385.04 --> 2386.78]  point where I could give customers a
[2386.78 --> 2388.64]  pure Debian system there's always
[2388.64 --> 2390.54]  another tweak that I had to carry out
[2390.54 --> 2392.78]  of tree so to this day I'm creating
[2392.78 --> 2394.54]  block device images with custom kernel
[2394.54 --> 2397.54]  packages integrated binary blobs and
[2397.54 --> 2398.96]  maybe a systemd service for loading
[2398.96 --> 2401.12]  Bluetooth firmware and even patch parts
[2401.12 --> 2404.06]  of X or Wayland so why do I tell you
[2404.06 --> 2406.10]  all of this well the reason being for a
[2406.10 --> 2407.74]  new product it takes time and
[2407.74 --> 2410.10]  continued effort for mainlining all the
[2410.10 --> 2411.94]  things and the experience can differ
[2411.94 --> 2414.38]  largely by a particular SoC in your
[2414.38 --> 2416.64]  hands and you'll find that despite even
[2416.64 --> 2417.84]  when the vendor does everything right
[2417.84 --> 2420.14]  it's still not perfect to really solve
[2420.14 --> 2421.48]  this problem there has to be a way for
[2421.48 --> 2423.14]  hardware makers who are both capable and
[2423.14 --> 2424.76]  willing to do the work to achieve
[2424.76 --> 2426.26]  something greater than what I was able
[2426.26 --> 2429.18]  to do in my job in his opinion it's just
[2429.18 --> 2430.74]  not there yet he says Alex that the
[2430.74 --> 2433.64]  ecosystem just can't support the kind of
[2433.64 --> 2435.64]  rapid support that the hardware needs at
[2435.64 --> 2437.38]  this stage and you know after reading
[2437.38 --> 2439.46]  this I was thinking look at the
[2439.46 --> 2441.98]  Raspberry Pi it's been around forever
[2441.98 --> 2443.34]  and of course they've had iterations
[2443.34 --> 2445.26]  that have changed things but you really
[2445.26 --> 2447.82]  still even there you kind of have to get
[2447.82 --> 2451.38]  an image that's at least been tested
[2451.38 --> 2453.58]  for the Raspberry Pi you can now get the
[2453.58 --> 2455.68]  Ubuntu ARM image and it will boot on the
[2455.68 --> 2457.98]  Raspberry Pi but that's only just recently
[2457.98 --> 2459.96]  it's and it's really not there with all
[2459.96 --> 2462.10]  distros yeah you make a good point I
[2462.10 --> 2464.76]  mean the Ubuntu image for the Pi 4 has
[2464.76 --> 2466.96]  made a big difference for me to the
[2466.96 --> 2468.94]  overall kind of feel of it being a real
[2468.94 --> 2472.34]  air quotes a real device and it's now in
[2472.34 --> 2474.22]  production for me I'm using it as Pi KVM
[2474.22 --> 2476.76]  which ironically runs on Arch but anyway
[2476.76 --> 2479.56]  yeah I agree with you I mean I ended up
[2479.56 --> 2481.50]  getting ZFS working on the Helios 64
[2481.50 --> 2484.66]  after the review in the end it was a few
[2484.66 --> 2486.56]  days it was a kernel update and DKMS
[2486.56 --> 2489.50]  started working again but yeah I just
[2489.50 --> 2492.50]  don't know how without you know an
[2492.50 --> 2494.58]  Apple level of control over both the
[2494.58 --> 2496.54]  hardware and software you could ever hope
[2496.54 --> 2499.98]  to solve this problem fully slow but
[2499.98 --> 2501.82]  steady there are standards like server
[2501.82 --> 2505.38]  ready that try to solve this more for the
[2505.38 --> 2507.40]  data center but those lessons could be
[2507.40 --> 2508.94]  learned in the consumer devices but
[2508.94 --> 2511.30]  there's just not necessarily the vendor
[2511.30 --> 2513.42]  buy-in and there's not necessarily the
[2513.42 --> 2515.26]  vendor buy-in to support the development
[2515.26 --> 2516.66]  right that's an area where they could
[2516.66 --> 2518.58]  apply a little bit of leverage they could
[2518.58 --> 2520.50]  hire people to just write the code and
[2520.50 --> 2522.12]  contribute it more and participate in
[2522.12 --> 2525.34]  these projects but it's only it's only so
[2525.34 --> 2528.40]  scalable and it's really not a problem we
[2528.40 --> 2531.76]  have on the x86 side of things we're so
[2531.76 --> 2534.70]  kind of swept up by the power usage of arm
[2534.70 --> 2538.06]  or the small size form factor or the price
[2538.06 --> 2540.84]  point I think we forget some of the
[2540.84 --> 2542.68]  luxuries that we've gained over the years
[2542.68 --> 2545.04]  with the x86 platform it just works you
[2545.04 --> 2546.24]  don't have to think about it you don't
[2546.24 --> 2550.18]  have to grab a special version of a linux
[2550.18 --> 2553.12]  distro or windows or whatever it is to
[2553.12 --> 2556.46]  to run on it and with apple changing to
[2556.46 --> 2560.16]  arm you know based cpus it is that's the
[2560.16 --> 2561.84]  first real departure that mainstream
[2561.84 --> 2565.72]  computing has seen from x86 instruction
[2565.72 --> 2568.78]  sets for 15 years yep and I think that's
[2568.78 --> 2572.36]  going to influence hopefully in five years
[2572.36 --> 2574.82]  time or so the rest of the industry will
[2574.82 --> 2576.60]  will be in a similar position to where
[2576.60 --> 2578.30]  apple are now with that kind of level of
[2578.30 --> 2580.82]  integration of course apple will be five
[2580.82 --> 2582.44]  years further down the road by then so
[2582.44 --> 2584.42]  who knows maybe they'll never catch up
[2584.42 --> 2587.32]  but it's a really interesting time for
[2587.32 --> 2590.08]  sure and I really want to support these
[2590.08 --> 2593.20]  guys doing these projects like like
[2593.20 --> 2596.06]  COBOL you know they're a small team you
[2596.06 --> 2597.24]  know they're not they're not doing this
[2597.24 --> 2599.04]  to become millionaires overnight you know
[2599.04 --> 2600.70]  it's they're doing it for the love I'm
[2600.70 --> 2603.22]  sure and they made a really great
[2603.22 --> 2605.10]  product it just missed in a few key areas
[2605.10 --> 2607.22]  so I wanted to let some of the listeners
[2607.22 --> 2611.36]  know that I will be selling my Helios 64
[2611.36 --> 2613.50]  so if you're interested in the market just
[2613.50 --> 2615.82]  let me know via Twitter you know you'd
[2615.82 --> 2616.88]  have to wait for it to ship or anything
[2616.88 --> 2618.78]  for the next batch we'll sort something
[2618.78 --> 2620.32]  out just leave a little stink on it when
[2620.32 --> 2621.58]  you ship it out let's make it real
[2621.58 --> 2623.84]  special okay get a little bit of your
[2623.84 --> 2626.00]  stink on there I'll sign the inside in
[2626.00 --> 2629.90]  Tippex or something how about that I want
[2629.90 --> 2631.56]  to say also a special thank you to our
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