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CMV: I'm concerned about the safety of the covid vaccine, and do not plan on getting it
I'm just going to list all of my concerns below. The best course for changing my view here I think would be to let me know what the "worst case scenario" is (and how we know this to be true); EG - If the worst thing that could happ... | 1. You can unpoliticize it by reading the actual studies which also track side effects.
2. Who did it without question? The FDA has standards including approving drug test designs to ensure safety and effectiveness. See #1 above. It is public data. While not 100% perfect those standards are the best class gold standa... | What about the risks of getting covid? It doesn't matter how safe the vaccine is, it only matters that it is safer than the alternative of not getting it
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Risks of getting covid and being more than just sick for a while are extremely low for me
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[deleted] | mu20lk | CMV: I'm concerned about the safety of the covid vaccine, and do not plan on getting it | I'm just going to list all of my concerns below. The best course for changing my view here I think would be to let me know what the "worst case scenario" is (and how we know this to be true); EG - If the worst thing that could happen to me is that I get something akin to the flu for a couple of weeks, then fine that's ... | ZeusThunder369 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: I'm concerned about the safety of the covid vaccine, and do not plan on getting it
I'm just going to list all of my concerns below. The best course for changing my view here I think would be to let me know what the "worst case scenario" is (and how we know this to be true); EG - If the worst thing that could happ... | [deleted]
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Could you tell me more about this? The tech has been labeled as "new" by people reporting it. But if it was used to study SARS then that wouldn't be new at all.
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> Researchers have been studying and working with mRNA vaccines for decades. Interest has grown in these vaccines because they can be dev... | What about the risks of getting covid? It doesn't matter how safe the vaccine is, it only matters that it is safer than the alternative of not getting it
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Risks of getting covid and being more than just sick for a while are extremely low for me
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Risks of the vaccine are even lower than that. | mu20lk | CMV: I'm concerned about the safety of the covid vaccine, and do not plan on getting it | I'm just going to list all of my concerns below. The best course for changing my view here I think would be to let me know what the "worst case scenario" is (and how we know this to be true); EG - If the worst thing that could happen to me is that I get something akin to the flu for a couple of weeks, then fine that's ... | ZeusThunder369 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Conservative Policy Just Protects the Haves from the Have-Nots, and Leaves the Have-Nots out to Dry.
Throughout this post I will make sweeping generalisations that represent a majority, but not all people who are either left or right wing. I understand many people on the right-wing do support helping the less for... | Republicans are no longer representative of the "conservatives," I would say...I think most would agree.
I think the politicians are generally pretty corrupt, and both Dems and Reps are going to increase income inequality by grossly favoring big companies who buy legislation via lobbying campaigns and bribes...the dif... | I think you misunderstand the conservative position on helping the less fortunate. Conservative policy entails that it's not necessarily the job of the government to protect the lower class. If people can keep more of their money with reduced taxes from smaller government, they will be in a better financial position to... | 6jf27z | CMV: Conservative Policy Just Protects the Haves from the Have-Nots, and Leaves the Have-Nots out to Dry. | Throughout this post I will make sweeping generalisations that represent a majority, but not all people who are either left or right wing. I understand many people on the right-wing do support helping the less fortunate, but prefer doing it through extra-governmental means such as charity, I have no issue with them. My... | inoahsomeone | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Banning firearms from places of worship in the US will have no efficacy, and possible negative outcomes
Pretty simple, I can't wrap my head around the idea of banning firearms from houses of worship as a means to reduce violence or make them safer. It seems completely separated from logic, but so many earnestly ... | Mass shootings make good headlines and sell lots of newspapers, but honestly, really ought to have a small if not negligible role in the gun debate.
Mass shootings represent less than 1 percent of gun deaths. You know what is far more common - people argue, and arguments escalate, and someone draws a weapon.
These ... | Is someone actually considering doing this? Because churches are private property, and you can do whatever the hell you want on private property. Banning firearms would be a clear infringement of a church's right to manage their own property how they see fit.
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Perhaps I'm overblowing the support this has, let me... | b30098 | CMV: Banning firearms from places of worship in the US will have no efficacy, and possible negative outcomes | Pretty simple, I can't wrap my head around the idea of banning firearms from houses of worship as a means to reduce violence or make them safer. It seems completely separated from logic, but so many earnestly believe this as a solution that I figured it qualifies as a good CMV.
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Mass murderers are already wi... | MasterLJ | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Nuclear power and hydrogen are the only viable alternatives to fossil fuels. The reason they're not being developed more is because of propaganda from fossil fuel companies.
Wind power just doesn't generate enough electricity in most places. Solar power is great but it requires a lot of land and also requires the... | You acknowledge solar is great, why do you dismiss it just because it requires a bunch of land? Especially because unlike other power systems, it can be built directly on top of other structures
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I love the idea of rooftop solar but I don't love the idea of littering the wilderness with solar panels. There are oth... | >Batteries are a stupid form of large scale energy storage due to the cost of production, limited lifespan, and reliance on rare minerals among other problems.
This isn't technically true. A battery is just a store of energy. You can have a battery like [this one](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Jx_bJgIFhI), where en... | 17kts1x | CMV: Nuclear power and hydrogen are the only viable alternatives to fossil fuels. The reason they're not being developed more is because of propaganda from fossil fuel companies. | Wind power just doesn't generate enough electricity in most places. Solar power is great but it requires a lot of land and also requires the use of massive batteries for energy storage. Hydro-electric power is also great but it's only viable in some places and it can be environmentally destructive. Batteries are a stup... | Grandemestizo | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Attention to entertainment isn't justified
My first CMV post, so let me know if I'm doing anything wrong.
It is common to hear people discussing sports, TV shows, movies and books. So I assume that people care about entertainment a considerable amount, which I believe is unjustified because the outcomes of the e... | >But I fail to see how this is healthy, wouldn't it be better to face what they are trying to distract themselves from?
This isn't what people mean when they say this - they're talking about taking a break, not avoidance of responsibility.
Do you believe that we should be constantly exerting ourselves from the momen... | I'm confused by the implication that art doesn't affect people's lives in a meaningful way. Stories are as old as human civilization and art is even older than that. Stories communicate meaning about larger human themes, they touch people, make people feel less alone, evoke strong emotion, teach valuable lessons and op... | 86d1gh | CMV: Attention to entertainment isn't justified | My first CMV post, so let me know if I'm doing anything wrong.
It is common to hear people discussing sports, TV shows, movies and books. So I assume that people care about entertainment a considerable amount, which I believe is unjustified because the outcomes of the entertainment source doesn't effect their life in ... | stringofsense | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: "Robophobia" jokes are concerning
Before I get slapped with downvotes, hear me out. I've seen jokes about people and their future children bringing clankers home, etc. Robophobia jokes are funny because of the timing – but oddly discomforting.
I remember when I was young, there would be quite a few futuristic mo... | Your concern is that maybe robots will one day have feelings and that maybe those yet to exist feelings could be hurt by people calling robots names?
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The concern is that we will one day be confronted with the question of, at what point does AI "deserve" respect?
Even now, a chat bot can demand respect – does it ... | By the time artificial intelligence is sentient. It will be indistinguishable from biology.
The problem is that people will feel like what they are talking to is a real consciousness when it's real just a convincing puppet.
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The nature of consciousness is not at all clear. We don't really know what causes it, or... | 1mmxwpp | CMV: "Robophobia" jokes are concerning | Before I get slapped with downvotes, hear me out. I've seen jokes about people and their future children bringing clankers home, etc. Robophobia jokes are funny because of the timing – but oddly discomforting.
I remember when I was young, there would be quite a few futuristic movies about robots (for example, iRobot).... | Seinhauser | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: It is cruel and selfish to ghost people that you no longer want in your life
This is a sweeping statement, and in my mind applies to any kind of interpersonal relationship: familial, romantic, friendly. I want to clarify a few common counterpoints.
1. This viewpoint does not apply in relationships that were abus... | What if youre the shitty person(or just someone that your friend doesnt need in their life) and you dont want to continue being a bad influence on a naive friend that looks up to you? and each time you try to explain this, the naive friend thinks youre just being cool or that you dont mean it, and it only makes them wa... | I really never understood the objection to "ghosting". It is not my responsibility for giving the other person closure or how she mentally handle things, that is their responsibility. When we don't have a relationship, its also not my responsibility to feed her the next day just because she is hungry.
> , "he's jus... | anfhjf | CMV: It is cruel and selfish to ghost people that you no longer want in your life | This is a sweeping statement, and in my mind applies to any kind of interpersonal relationship: familial, romantic, friendly. I want to clarify a few common counterpoints.
1. This viewpoint does not apply in relationships that were abusive.
2. I define "ghosting" as suddenly ceasing all communication without *sufficie... | ququqachu | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The words anxiety and depression are over-used and most people don't have them.
I have had bouts of severe anxiety. Hypochondriac thoughts, I was admitting myself to ER every other day for 6 months. It was serious, I felt like I was dying every time, and it was very hard to convince me otherwise. I got over it th... | Your argument seems to be that you were hospitalized for extreme anxiety, so you know real anxiety and if everyone who says they have "anxiety" are just throwing words around because they are aren't comfortable. Anxiety and depression are the leading cause of disability worldwide, and have an insanely high incidence r... | Anxiety and depression are normal and everyone has them. The terms anxiety and depression are not conditions. Conditions include things like Major Depressive Disorder or Generalized Anxiety Disorder. I don't see people over using those terms at all. It is perfectly healthy and normal to have anxiety and depression from... | 86cb1r | CMV: The words anxiety and depression are over-used and most people don't have them. | I have had bouts of severe anxiety. Hypochondriac thoughts, I was admitting myself to ER every other day for 6 months. It was serious, I felt like I was dying every time, and it was very hard to convince me otherwise. I got over it the hard way, it passed eventually, but I know what anxiety feels like. But, new generat... | cybertoothlion | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Lebron's fall from grace will be the worst of any "Top Level" NBA star
With the Jordan vs Lebron discussion finally put to bed and the twilight of Lebron's career upon us, its becoming clear that Lebron's fall from grace will not be pretty. Jordan for example did not have much of a fall from grace. Even his brief... | LeBron James is 34 years old. Everyone knows he's going to decline. There's no fall from grace here, there's a player who was the best in the game for a decade who eventually succumbs to the effects of age, just like literally anyone else ever. No rational person thinks that LeBron James' mildly declining performance i... | Carmelo Anthony having Steven A. in his corner does not in any way negate the ridicule and rapid demise he experienced. Melo is literally out of the league and can't find a team right now, less than two years removed from a team making a huge trade for him. Do you think that could ever happen to LeBron? Teams would let... | b2zs2t | CMV: Lebron's fall from grace will be the worst of any "Top Level" NBA star | With the Jordan vs Lebron discussion finally put to bed and the twilight of Lebron's career upon us, its becoming clear that Lebron's fall from grace will not be pretty. Jordan for example did not have much of a fall from grace. Even his brief and underwhelming stint in baseball or the over the hill era with the Wizard... | beengrim32 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: 'Improved dialogue' won't solve political division
Since the 2016 election in the US, there's been a series of articles where liberals have visited pro Trump areas as if they were exploring a foreign country. They normally depict these journeys as neccessary to increase the amount of inter party discussion that t... | I’m very far left, but the idea that the right thinks a race and gender neutral society that protects the environment and vulnerable is immoral is a gross mischaracterization. True for the alt-right perhaps, but not the average conservative.
Talking to our opponents has lots of benefits, even if you don’t convince th... | > Because of these two differences, any increased understanding will only make partisanship worse because the antagonism isn't caused by caricatures each side has of the other but by the realities of their mutually exclusive agenda.
Ironically, your descriptions of both sides are caricatures in and of themselves. Dem... | 7snyyy | CMV: 'Improved dialogue' won't solve political division | Since the 2016 election in the US, there's been a series of articles where liberals have visited pro Trump areas as if they were exploring a foreign country. They normally depict these journeys as neccessary to increase the amount of inter party discussion that they believe is neccessary to decrease extreme partisanshi... | Anonon_990 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The average man objectively has it harder than the average women when it comes to dating
(US)
Mainly this stems from my that about how men who complain about dating are “incels” or whatever. I think dating all around is terrible these days more so than it was in the past. I think the access to “easy” dating has ... | Well which sex has a higher likelihood of being raped by their date?
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While I don’t necessarily agree with OP, it is irritating that any time a man brings up issues he has with dating, he’s either met with “yeah well you don’t have to worry about rape” or “you sound like an incel”. It would be nice if we could jus... | Except the huge majority of men don’t need to worry about their personal safety when out on a date so you may need to adjust what you mean by “harder”
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Hear we go again ignoring men because women are unsafe.
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Who said anything about ignoring men?
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First thing this person says is, but women unsafe.
Use y... | 1jsb3lf | CMV: The average man objectively has it harder than the average women when it comes to dating | (US)
Mainly this stems from my that about how men who complain about dating are “incels” or whatever. I think dating all around is terrible these days more so than it was in the past. I think the access to “easy” dating has actually made it far worse. I think there are some issues common to both men and women generall... | Relevant_Actuary2205 | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: If a Creator God aims to liberate "lost" humans, that essentially means that he created humans and deliberately ensured their attraction and desire to material goods and worldly pleasure so he could proceed to supposedly "liberate" them.
I am currently in my process of becoming an atheist and this is one of the q... | I'm a game designer. When I'm making a level or mission for players to move through, I get to choose how difficult it is for players to progress. I can make it trivial, impossible, or anywhere in between. The point isn't really the obstacle; it's the challenge that the obstacle presents that matters. It gives players t... | Well God knows what we are going to do, but He gave us free will, therefore we are free whether or not we want to do something. We are free to make our choices, but there needs to be a test. Otherwise, there is no struggle for Paradise, and your intentions wouldn't be tested.
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Paradise seems rather overrated, per... | 793e9q | CMV: If a Creator God aims to liberate "lost" humans, that essentially means that he created humans and deliberately ensured their attraction and desire to material goods and worldly pleasure so he could proceed to supposedly "liberate" them. | I am currently in my process of becoming an atheist and this is one of the questions I have as I lessen my belief in Hinduism. Hinduism being a henotheistic religion has the concept of a supreme God. If this world was essentially created by the Supreme God, he would have to purposefully create it too possess material w... | memeyar | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: If a Creator God aims to liberate "lost" humans, that essentially means that he created humans and deliberately ensured their attraction and desire to material goods and worldly pleasure so he could proceed to supposedly "liberate" them.
I am currently in my process of becoming an atheist and this is one of the q... | I'm a game designer. When I'm making a level or mission for players to move through, I get to choose how difficult it is for players to progress. I can make it trivial, impossible, or anywhere in between. The point isn't really the obstacle; it's the challenge that the obstacle presents that matters. It gives players t... | [deleted]
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I've mentioned earlier that I was a part of the Hindu faith. It's meant to be the background information as a specific religion. Therefore you can take that to be the religion I refer to in my replies unless I have explicitly stated or the reply I receive makes explicit reference to another religion.
... | 793e9q | CMV: If a Creator God aims to liberate "lost" humans, that essentially means that he created humans and deliberately ensured their attraction and desire to material goods and worldly pleasure so he could proceed to supposedly "liberate" them. | I am currently in my process of becoming an atheist and this is one of the questions I have as I lessen my belief in Hinduism. Hinduism being a henotheistic religion has the concept of a supreme God. If this world was essentially created by the Supreme God, he would have to purposefully create it too possess material w... | memeyar | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: Being obsessed with social media can actually be good
I think that social media can actually work similarly as actively writing your own autobiography.
This applies less to Twitter and Instagram and more to Facebook, because the first two feel very limited, almost entirely designed for mobile use and aren't fea... | You're describing an online journal or blog not social media. The issue with social media is really the "like" and "share buttons". Even if you just try to post an open honest thing you are haunted by those like buttons. Those likes are social approval of which almost all humans crave. You get a rush of dopamine when y... | What if it comes at the cost of real life interactions? Or at the cost of productivity at work?
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I would no... | 7sq7w6 | CMV: Being obsessed with social media can actually be good | I think that social media can actually work similarly as actively writing your own autobiography.
This applies less to Twitter and Instagram and more to Facebook, because the first two feel very limited, almost entirely designed for mobile use and aren't feature rich life Facebook, in which one can write, share pictu... | Furlentyspudder | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Traffic laws should be enforced by an unarmed traffic department
Having police officers enforce traffic laws is an inefficient use of resources and creates unnecessarily dangerous situations for both the public and the police officers. Police have so many difficult jobs to do and taking traffic enforcement off th... | Traffic stops are actually one of the most likely situations for a police officer to get shot at. For most people on the road, they have no motivation to make their situation worse and just want to pay their ticket or challenge it in court. However, for situations where the person being pulled over is engaged in some... | >. Traffic stops and issuing of tickets should be performed by unarmed traffic monitors who do not have the power to detain or arrest
So just let drunk drivers keep drunk driving?
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>unarmed traffic monitors who do not have the power ... | q6186e | CMV: Traffic laws should be enforced by an unarmed traffic department | Having police officers enforce traffic laws is an inefficient use of resources and creates unnecessarily dangerous situations for both the public and the police officers. Police have so many difficult jobs to do and taking traffic enforcement off the list would allow them to focus and get better at the other responsibi... | ee_anon | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Traffic laws should be enforced by an unarmed traffic department
Having police officers enforce traffic laws is an inefficient use of resources and creates unnecessarily dangerous situations for both the public and the police officers. Police have so many difficult jobs to do and taking traffic enforcement off th... | Traffic stops are actually one of the most likely situations for a police officer to get shot at. For most people on the road, they have no motivation to make their situation worse and just want to pay their ticket or challenge it in court. However, for situations where the person being pulled over is engaged in some... | So what happends if they pull over a drunk driver or someone with a bunch or meth in the car
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Clearly those people will submit because it's the right thing to do. Nobody has ever been violent about being stopped with narcotics in the car. /s
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Totally just gonna wait for the cops actually arrest them right | q6186e | CMV: Traffic laws should be enforced by an unarmed traffic department | Having police officers enforce traffic laws is an inefficient use of resources and creates unnecessarily dangerous situations for both the public and the police officers. Police have so many difficult jobs to do and taking traffic enforcement off the list would allow them to focus and get better at the other responsibi... | ee_anon | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Jared Diamond's Guns, Germs, Steel is an accurate representation of why society has progressed like it has.
I often see much hate for the ideas in the book *Guns, Germs, and Steel* but few of them ever seem to live up to scrutiny on my part. The overall main idea of the book is that geography is the main driving ... | I'm an archaeologist who works in Mesoamerica and has taught Guns, Germs, and Steel in my classes a couple times. I use the book in class because I do think it's solid and generates good discussions, but I also have issues with it. Diamond is what an archaeologist would call an environmental determinist, which you've a... | To start, I'm not a historian. I haven't read the whole book, but I'm familiar with the general idea of it and some of the criticisms leveled against it. From what I can gather, it's not that historians think he's incorrect, but it sounds like he is overemphasizing the importance of several key factors, making untestab... | 8o8xao | CMV: Jared Diamond's Guns, Germs, Steel is an accurate representation of why society has progressed like it has. | I often see much hate for the ideas in the book *Guns, Germs, and Steel* but few of them ever seem to live up to scrutiny on my part. The overall main idea of the book is that geography is the main driving factor in human history, and some of the more specific examples for why the Americas were colonized and not vice v... | Brybrysciguy | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Men should be allowed to get "financial abortions" if they get a woman pregnant and they don't want to support the child.
First off, I'll preface this by saying that I am VERY pro\-choice, in that I am totally okay with allowing a woman to have body autonomy and have full freedom to choose to terminate her pregna... | The problem is is this in the best interest of the child? I'd argue no. The child now has to suffer having less access to resources (money, food, time, etc) because they father chooses to not be in the picture before they're even born.
Now you could argue that the woman could just put them up for adoption at this poin... | [deleted]
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But if a woman is essentially allowed to financially abort herself from the financial responsibilities of raising a future child by getting an abortion, why shouldn't the father be afforded the same opportunity?
Once again, this is not a debate about the morality or immorality of regular abortion. This... | 8o9jje | CMV: Men should be allowed to get "financial abortions" if they get a woman pregnant and they don't want to support the child. | First off, I'll preface this by saying that I am VERY pro\-choice, in that I am totally okay with allowing a woman to have body autonomy and have full freedom to choose to terminate her pregnancy if she wants.
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CMV: Men should be allowed to get "financial abortions" if they get a woman pregnant and they don't want to support the child.
First off, I'll preface this by saying that I am VERY pro\-choice, in that I am totally okay with allowing a woman to have body autonomy and have full freedom to choose to terminate her pregna... | [deleted]
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But if a woman is essentially allowed to financially abort herself from the financial responsibilities of raising a future child by getting an abortion, why shouldn't the father be afforded the same opportunity?
Once again, this is not a debate about the morality or immorality of regular abortion. This... | Single parents are some of the poorest people in the country, why should my tax dollars go to the social services that support them before the deadbeats that are actually responsible for the situation?
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If the woman doesn't want to raise a child by herself, she can terminate her pregnancy.
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If a man doesn't ... | 8o9jje | CMV: Men should be allowed to get "financial abortions" if they get a woman pregnant and they don't want to support the child. | First off, I'll preface this by saying that I am VERY pro\-choice, in that I am totally okay with allowing a woman to have body autonomy and have full freedom to choose to terminate her pregnancy if she wants.
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CMV: Most Muslims are certainly decent people, but one of the biggest barriers to Islam and the West coexisting in the same place are the religious doctrines.
I believe that the Quran and Hadiths are the problem here, I have been told that they are written in a very vague manner (with very conflicting messages that ar... | Just like the Christian bible, the Quran is the 'immutable word of god.'
It cannot be changed.
(But of course it can be 'interpreted ' in infinite ways.)
Asking them to change the quran is similar to asking them to just convert to Christianity.
Both would solve the problem, and both are equally likely.
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What... | > If Muslims are really as peaceful as they say they are, they should be having a great discourse on the Quran and how it should be interpreted in a pacificist manner.
They are doing this. Constantly. Here's a website called http://www.muslimsforpeace.org/ . Here's an [Islamic Peace Conference](https://ireaworld.org/i... | 7srbhu | CMV: Most Muslims are certainly decent people, but one of the biggest barriers to Islam and the West coexisting in the same place are the religious doctrines. | I believe that the Quran and Hadiths are the problem here, I have been told that they are written in a very vague manner (with very conflicting messages that are contradictory) that is very easy to interpret in all sorts of ways, which makes it easier for ultra-religious people who follow Islam to become extremists.
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CMV: The idea of pets being considered property really bugs me
Legally speaking, pets are considered property in many cases. When I browse subs like /r/legaladvice and someone makes a post about their pet being killed, there's usually a reply along the lines of "since pets are legally considered property, you can get ... | They're considered property, yes, but not like a stack of bricks or a stump. You won't get a fine for beating a stump, or get sent to jail for making bricks fight (dibs on front row seats for that, though). They can't really legally be considered family, because then you'd basically be calling them human, and that's a ... | One key benefit of considering them property is much cheaper veterinary care. Since they don't have serious malpractice concerns, they are able to provide care much more affordably. No CYA stuff or "are these scissors properly labeled" etc. So more pets get care.
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While I do think that veterinary care s... | 6q7ai3 | CMV: The idea of pets being considered property really bugs me | Legally speaking, pets are considered property in many cases. When I browse subs like /r/legaladvice and someone makes a post about their pet being killed, there's usually a reply along the lines of "since pets are legally considered property, you can get a few hundred from the perpetrator to replace the pet." I consid... | ChronaMewX | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: the 2024 US Presidential election will likely be stolen
For the sake of this question, when I call a theft "likely" I mean "not *very* unlikely", rather than the probability necessarily exceeding 0.5.
Bill Maher [recently](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cR4fXcsu9w) described a plausible-sounding scenario:
* T... | >For the sake of this question, when I call a theft "likely" I mean "not very unlikely", rather than the probability necessarily exceeding 0.5.
So by likely you mean unlikely? That's a weird definition of likely. You definition is of likely includes unlikely, but not *very* unlikely.
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To answer your question: for the purposes of this question, I define the legitimate winner as whoever gets 270+ if states (or smaller regions where applicable) are allocated based on the vote count, rather than the opposite way because someone just pretends the count is fraudulent. In other words, if Tr... | q5w70c | CMV: the 2024 US Presidential election will likely be stolen | For the sake of this question, when I call a theft "likely" I mean "not *very* unlikely", rather than the probability necessarily exceeding 0.5.
Bill Maher [recently](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cR4fXcsu9w) described a plausible-sounding scenario:
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CMV: the 2024 US Presidential election will likely be stolen
For the sake of this question, when I call a theft "likely" I mean "not *very* unlikely", rather than the probability necessarily exceeding 0.5.
Bill Maher [recently](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cR4fXcsu9w) described a plausible-sounding scenario:
* T... | [deleted]
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To answer your question: for the purposes of this question, I define the legitimate winner as whoever gets 270+ if states (or smaller regions where applicable) are allocated based on the vote count, rather than the opposite way because someone just pretends the count is fraudulent. In other words, if Tr... | [removed]
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Everything you just said was soundly debunked by bipartisan review. His fan base failed because he lost urban and suburban republicans with his vendettas and how he botched the COVID crisis.
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Undisputed fact, states changed their voting laws under the guise of covid directly in contradiction to th... | q5w70c | CMV: the 2024 US Presidential election will likely be stolen | For the sake of this question, when I call a theft "likely" I mean "not *very* unlikely", rather than the probability necessarily exceeding 0.5.
Bill Maher [recently](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cR4fXcsu9w) described a plausible-sounding scenario:
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CMV: The Mormon church is a cult and I should do everything in my power to get my family out of it.
So I really, really don't want to believe this but all the information that I can find indicates quite strongly this is so.
A little background.
I was raised Mormon. I left for varying reasons (not the least of which ... | As far as I know Mormons are allowed to associate with non-Mormons and are not limited in the information they can receive, nor are “sinners” publicly punished or humiliated, nor does the president (is that the correct term?) of the Mormon church charismatic enough to brainwash people.
Is there something about Mormoni... | I think you'll have to elaborate more on why exactly you consider Mormonism to be a cult rather than linking a list of cult characteristics and expecting us to connect the dots. As it is, there's not really much of an argument to respond to.
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Because it seems to meet all the definitions and requirements of a cult ... | 7sq88h | CMV: The Mormon church is a cult and I should do everything in my power to get my family out of it. | So I really, really don't want to believe this but all the information that I can find indicates quite strongly this is so.
A little background.
I was raised Mormon. I left for varying reasons (not the least of which is because I'm gay) but most of my family remains in the church. Information I've learned since indic... | CoyotePatronus | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Pro-plant people's attempts to end meat will ultimately fail.
Yes, show me the nth article, paper, or journal, that talks about how harmful meat is to the environment, or how it is resource or land inefficient compared to plant, or how we livestock uses as high as 80% of water, feed, and land used for food.
N... | people in here don't seem to understand that eating meat is literally part of our nature and can't be as easily changed like societal structures
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People in here don't seem to understand that ~~eating meat~~ having slaves is literally part of our nature and can't be as easily changed like societal structures.
Peop... | >The number of U.S. consumers identifying as vegan grew from 1% to 6% between 2014 and 2017, a 600% increase, according to GlobalData.
[Source](https://www.forbes.com/sites/janetforgrieve/2018/11/02/picturing-a-kindler-gentler-world-vegan-month/)
It's not going to happen over night. Numbers are still small but right ... | 19ad82f | CMV: Pro-plant people's attempts to end meat will ultimately fail. | Yes, show me the nth article, paper, or journal, that talks about how harmful meat is to the environment, or how it is resource or land inefficient compared to plant, or how we livestock uses as high as 80% of water, feed, and land used for food.
None of matters, and I think that it will end in failure. I say becau... | Reddit-Arrien | 2 | 2 | [
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CMV: A Major Reason South Park gets away with mocking LGBT but Chappelle doesn't because Chappelle's black and the backlash against him is rooted in racism
So there's a couple other things at play. Firstly South Park is animated and character driven so it's taken less seriously. Also Chapelle is no fan of the media an... | Can you explain what exactly you mean with South Park "getting away with it" while Chappelle doesn't? How are you quantifying this?
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Overwhelmingly positive reviews of South Park in the media and amongst the net and negative ones towards Dave. I said that.
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That is not a good metric, though - there are many m... | How wonderful for Chapelle to start off a whole slew of pointless oppression Olympics. Thanks dude, please run away again and hide or whatever you did once the success of your mid-00's show got too heavy.
I don't know anyone who isn't aware of South Park's transphobia. It's been a staple of the show for almost 25 year... | q5ssbo | CMV: A Major Reason South Park gets away with mocking LGBT but Chappelle doesn't because Chappelle's black and the backlash against him is rooted in racism | So there's a couple other things at play. Firstly South Park is animated and character driven so it's taken less seriously. Also Chapelle is no fan of the media and Comedy Central while South Park played ball.
Over the past decade since twitter and increased trans visibility there have been several storylines in SP th... | StoopSign | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: There is no point in being proud of your sexuality or race. Gay pride or black pride are something you’re born as. It took you no effort to be the way you are. So there’s no point in being proud.
Basically I don’t think there’s any point in being proud of your sexuality or race. It took no effort to be who you na... | It's not that sort of 'pride'. People aren't using the word in that sense. In the context of, for example, gay pride, people that say they are 'proud to be gay' are not saying they have accomplished some sort of feat in being born gay. Obviously that would be ridiculous. They mean it in the sense that they are confiden... | Should Usain Bolt be proud of running faster than people who worked harder than him? He was born fast. Shouldn't he be proud of that?
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You’re making it sound as if Usain Bolt didn’t put any effort into running fast. Usain Bolt has said before that what he has has come from hard work. And he should be proud of hi... | 8o7qus | CMV: There is no point in being proud of your sexuality or race. Gay pride or black pride are something you’re born as. It took you no effort to be the way you are. So there’s no point in being proud. | Basically I don’t think there’s any point in being proud of your sexuality or race. It took no effort to be who you naturally are. It’s not an accomplishment, hence no need to be proud. This also applies to the whole fat pride stuff. I shouldn’t be proud of giving in and just eating a bunch of shitty food and becoming ... | HurricaneSYG | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Cormac McCarthy's Blood Meridian is kinda trash and should not be held in high regard
*Trigger warnings:* If you aren't familiar with the book it contains a lot of racism, violence, and even genocide. And when I say violence, I mean the worst, gory violence you have ever heard.
I can appreciate the dedication M... | Blood Meridian is so shocking and disgusting because it is a portrayal of a real moment in American history. McCarthy’s prose is unflinching. He somehow manages to capture the absolute brutal depravity of scalp hunting while taking the reader on an equally intense tour of the beauty of the frontier. This book isn’t mea... | This is utterly pointless with you only having read half the book.
It’s widely regarded as a classic and possibly the finest American novel of the last 50 years. Read the whole thing and then make a judgment. Seems really simple.
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If you all can change my view that it is worthy of finishing the read, I might do ... | 1js0qzw | CMV: Cormac McCarthy's Blood Meridian is kinda trash and should not be held in high regard | *Trigger warnings:* If you aren't familiar with the book it contains a lot of racism, violence, and even genocide. And when I say violence, I mean the worst, gory violence you have ever heard.
I can appreciate the dedication McCarthy put into writing it (learning spanish, traveling the route, etc..), and the flow/pro... | RedditExplorer89 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Abortion is not murder
It's not genocide either. If a person has sex the risk of conceiving a child does not mandate you to having to have a child. Its your body you can't force someone to use your body. You should not be able to connect tubes to me circulating my blood etc to keep you alive for 9 months etc it's... | 18 U.S.C. § 1111 defines murder as the unlawful killing of a human being with malice, and divides it into two degrees.
In a strictly technical sense- since abortion is legal, it's not murder by exclusion
[manslaughter ](https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/manslaughter) is a good case though
But that then raises the q... | Your claim is that abortion =/= murder. That whatever murder is; abortion is *not* that.
You've then made a series of points / arguments that explain things like why abortions happen, what's wrong with various anti-abortion arguments and those who espouse them, and some light ethical positions... but no where do you ... | 19a4hxz | CMV: Abortion is not murder | It's not genocide either. If a person has sex the risk of conceiving a child does not mandate you to having to have a child. Its your body you can't force someone to use your body. You should not be able to connect tubes to me circulating my blood etc to keep you alive for 9 months etc it's monstrous. This also assumes... | Iwinloser | 2 | 2 | [
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CMV: People concerned about cultural appropriation aren't actually that worried about the "appropriation"part.
Many people say cultural appropriation is wrong because it is disrespectful. The idea seems to be that by "appropriating" things
from other cultures, we are robbing them of their uniqueness and we're treatin... | Are you really saying that if I'm not upset about what the Romans stole from the Gauls that I can't be upset about what a mugger stole from me?
People believe that they are being harmed by their culture being appropriated. No Odin-worshipping Norsemen feel they are being harmed by the portrayal of Thor.
Being conc... | We’re not robbing the uniqueness.
The bringing of black People from slave to citizen was an exercise in growth. A good way to remember the13th, 14th, and 15th is to ask yourself how does one become a citizen. First, stop being a slave, second become naturalized, and third get the vote.
Blacks, again, had to do thro... | 8o8da6 | CMV: People concerned about cultural appropriation aren't actually that worried about the "appropriation"part. | Many people say cultural appropriation is wrong because it is disrespectful. The idea seems to be that by "appropriating" things
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Many people say cultural appropriation is wrong because it is disrespectful. The idea seems to be that by "appropriating" things
from other cultures, we are robbing them of their uniqueness and we're treatin... | Are you really saying that if I'm not upset about what the Romans stole from the Gauls that I can't be upset about what a mugger stole from me?
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The bringing of black People from slave to citizen was an exercise in growth. A good way to remember the13th, 14th, and 15th is to ask yourself how does one become a citizen. First, stop being a slave, second become naturalized, and third get the vote.
Blacks, again, had to do thro... | 8o8da6 | CMV: People concerned about cultural appropriation aren't actually that worried about the "appropriation"part. | Many people say cultural appropriation is wrong because it is disrespectful. The idea seems to be that by "appropriating" things
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CMV: My teen spends much more time Online than IRL, and I believe it's an unhealthy balance that will impact his future relationships.
As a parent, I'm concerned about my 13yo son's social engagements, which is mostly online, through gaming. He has friends from school, but rarely sees them after school or on the weeke... | You are correct and incorrect. You are correct in your concerns, you are incorrect in saying it’s abnormal. The reality is all kids during this period have this problem. It’s a societal problem not your kids individual failure
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∆ Your comment made me realize that there's a broader societal problem and if I were to... | Are you really saying that you can't have a meaningful conversation unless it's in person? Whilst literally on the internet trying to discuss your kid and his relationship with his friends? Do you see how silly that is?
Also, have you been outside recently? What are you expecting your 13 year old kid and his frien... | 19a0ir3 | CMV: My teen spends much more time Online than IRL, and I believe it's an unhealthy balance that will impact his future relationships. | As a parent, I'm concerned about my 13yo son's social engagements, which is mostly online, through gaming. He has friends from school, but rarely sees them after school or on the weekends outside of school. I worry about the long-term effects on his social and emotional development as a person spending so much time onl... | blueandyshores | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Millenials disdain for Baby Boomers is misplaced and faintly ridiculous
I frequently read posts from Millennial expressing anger about how much easier the Baby Boomer generation had it; how they are selfish for not retiring in droves in order to make room for younger workers; how they are ignorant fools for not u... | > nor the tribal identity millennials get to enjoy.
I want to understand what made you say this, before I give my answer. Why do you think millennials, [the most diverse](https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/20180124_metro_millennialreport_pressrelease.pdf), [overworked](https://www.refinery29.com/ove... | I think that's mostly a push back because of how much people criticize the Millenials. I rarely see millenials specifically talking shit about any generation, but it seems like dismissing millenials is a very very common thing for the previous generations.
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This is what I've mostly seen. There was a flurry of "why... | 8o15rf | CMV: Millenials disdain for Baby Boomers is misplaced and faintly ridiculous | I frequently read posts from Millennial expressing anger about how much easier the Baby Boomer generation had it; how they are selfish for not retiring in droves in order to make room for younger workers; how they are ignorant fools for not understanding that it's harder for todays 20\- and 30\-somethings than it was... | estheredna | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Certain streamers on Twitch offer zero substance in terms of content except for their sexuality and at their most extreme should be treated as pornographers and be segregated from the general twitch streamer population into an adults only section of the site.
With the creation of the IRL stream category twitch st... | Provided they're not nude or engaging in sexual acts, what is the issue? It's not like children aren't exposed to scantly clad men/women when they go to the beach and/or pool.
Twitch is entertainment, that's the goal of the service. If someone is entertaining others by the way they dress, how is that any different tha... | Could you maybe expand on why "showing off a little skin" necessitates that the video suddenly be deemed for "adults only"? Why should content guidelines for something like Twitch be more stringent than they are for movies, or for that matter for other streaming content services like YouTube?
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When you watch a mov... | 794xx7 | CMV: Certain streamers on Twitch offer zero substance in terms of content except for their sexuality and at their most extreme should be treated as pornographers and be segregated from the general twitch streamer population into an adults only section of the site. | With the creation of the IRL stream category twitch streamers have been untethered from actually delivering any content with substance. Not to say that this is true across the board, but this new genre is incredibly lucrative for young women who don't mind showing off a little skin in return for donations (which can be... | SillyMarbles | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Polyamory relationships and marriage should be normalized
I understand why some areas can’t handle legalizing it, like areas where women are seen as less than / places where sex education is low, but this is not the case everywhere. I don’t know everything about every country, but why not Canada, South America, ... | Why does the state need to be involved? There would be no added tax benefit to a second wife. So why does the state need to approve?
Nobody is stopping you from doing the ceremony you want, wearing rings and living together.
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Because they are already involved with 2 person marriages. It makes a statement for tha... | Relationships? Sure. No problem.
Marriage? Oh jeez. So many legal and tax issues would result in partnerships between 3 or more people when so many things are designed to function as exclusively 2-person.
I'm not a lawyer but just thinking about it gives me a sympathetic headache for the people who would have to rewo... | ga5dlq | CMV: Polyamory relationships and marriage should be normalized |
I understand why some areas can’t handle legalizing it, like areas where women are seen as less than / places where sex education is low, but this is not the case everywhere. I don’t know everything about every country, but why not Canada, South America, Australia, East Asia or Europe?
And while I’m not poly myself,... | heeess | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: If you enjoy playing MMORPG games, you are a capitalist at heart.
The emphasis on this CMV is the wording *" at heart "*
MMORPG = massive multilayer online role playing game.
The essential goal In all mmorpgs is to get the highest level, prestige, or conquer the most difficult gaming content with other players ... | > The essential goal In all mmorpgs is to get the highest level, prestige, or conquer the most difficult gaming content with other players (usually what is known as a guild).
Many people play games, including MMORPGs, for other reasons. For example, some people may prefer to explore a fantasy landscape, immerse thems... | That's not really accurate. A game has codified rules and a participant agrees to play by those rules, even to their disadvantage in terms of morality.
You see this often in MMOs where people will complain about price gouging in the auction house. The first rule of capitalism dictates that the value of an item is wha... | 7so3i0 | CMV: If you enjoy playing MMORPG games, you are a capitalist at heart. | The emphasis on this CMV is the wording *" at heart "*
MMORPG = massive multilayer online role playing game.
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CMV: Depression is the worst of all maladies.
**I see the error of my ways! No more, please, no more!**
First of all, if anyone who is reading this is depressed, please seek out a professional and information pertaining to the illness, through people, books, videos, etc... As long as there's life, there's hope.
I, l... | Depression is awful, that is correct. I would argue that Alzheimer's is much worse though. Depending on how it comes through, it is entirely possible you notice your own downward spiral. You can tell that you aren't remembering things, or that you can't put together sentences correctly. Heck, Alzheimer's can make your ... | Depression is treatable, while many other diseases aren't.
Many people with depression and cancer have expressed the claim that if their cancer gets worse they may kill themselves or wish to be euthanized; surely for them the cancer is worse.
And consider the horrible disease [epidermolysis bullosa.](https://www.mayoc... | 79320r | CMV: Depression is the worst of all maladies. | **I see the error of my ways! No more, please, no more!**
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I, like many of you I suspect, have experienced dep... | AnEwokRedditor | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: We should be more tolerant of false nuclear attack alarms.
After the Hawaiian false missile alert, there have been many calls for reform to prevent such false alarms in the future. The alarm was disruptive, and caused many people to speed; there could be some traffic fatalities next time.
Nevertheless, anything... | I think this depends a lot on _why_ a false alarm was issued - if the false alarm was issued because someone misidentified a potential threat then that is one thing, but if some just sat on the button then that is another.
Do we know the cause of the false alarm yet?
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Supposedly it wasn't a misidentified threat (... | It SHOULD be hard to issue a correct alarm. People's lives will depend on acting **immediately** and with purpose. In a real version of what happened, they'd have 20 minutes to save themselves, basically. We simply cannot afford for people to spend the first 10 of those 20 minutes trying to figure out if this one is... | 7so3vf | CMV: We should be more tolerant of false nuclear attack alarms. | After the Hawaiian false missile alert, there have been many calls for reform to prevent such false alarms in the future. The alarm was disruptive, and caused many people to speed; there could be some traffic fatalities next time.
Nevertheless, anything that makes it harder to issue false alarms will likely also make... | GnosticGnome | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: We should be more tolerant of false nuclear attack alarms.
After the Hawaiian false missile alert, there have been many calls for reform to prevent such false alarms in the future. The alarm was disruptive, and caused many people to speed; there could be some traffic fatalities next time.
Nevertheless, anything... | It SHOULD be hard to issue a correct alarm. People's lives will depend on acting **immediately** and with purpose. In a real version of what happened, they'd have 20 minutes to save themselves, basically. We simply cannot afford for people to spend the first 10 of those 20 minutes trying to figure out if this one is... | I think this depends a lot on _why_ a false alarm was issued - if the false alarm was issued because someone misidentified a potential threat then that is one thing, but if some just sat on the button then that is another.
Do we know the cause of the false alarm yet?
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CMV: I don’t think a totalitarian regime can be enforced in the United States as it is in this point in time.
It’s a pretty common point of conversation in my social circle (we’re all liberals on the West Coast, but we have pretty diverse views in general). To preface, none of us are arguing that it absolutely cannot ... | >…as it is in this point in time
This is the key phrase here. I agree with you, it wouldn’t work *now*; but the question you should be asking is, how long would that take to change? The national opinion of something like Jan 6 is already more dangerous than it was *on Jan 6*, and who would have even imagined that hap... | He almost had the entire government murdered.
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Killing a room full of people is easy. One guy and a full magazine can do that. Happens in the US all the time. Controlling a country of over 300 million people across half a continent is entirely different, don’t you think?
Doubt you read the entire post that fast. ... | 199zdti | CMV: I don’t think a totalitarian regime can be enforced in the United States as it is in this point in time. | It’s a pretty common point of conversation in my social circle (we’re all liberals on the West Coast, but we have pretty diverse views in general). To preface, none of us are arguing that it absolutely cannot happen, but I’m not convinced that it can be enforced. I think that, even if, say, Jan 6 went differently, the ... | HungHeadsEmptyHearts | 3 | 3 | [
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It’s a pretty common point of conversation in my social circle (we’re all liberals on the West Coast, but we have pretty diverse views in general). To preface, none of us are arguing that it absolutely cannot ... | >That’s really it. Say Trump decides to be the next Hitler. With whose support? The Proud Boys? Lol. Across 50 states? People don’t realize what a massive logistical task that is. You really think a group of rednecks with ARs can accomplish that? You think most of those guys will get off their couch when the day comes?... | I’d argue the internet isn’t educating as you claim. Sure accurate information is there, but so is inaccurate info and it’s only getting worse with AI.
I’d also argue that it’s not just a bunch of rednecks who support trump. My husband works for a local government in an extremely liberal place. Your garbage man, your... | 199zdti | CMV: I don’t think a totalitarian regime can be enforced in the United States as it is in this point in time. | It’s a pretty common point of conversation in my social circle (we’re all liberals on the West Coast, but we have pretty diverse views in general). To preface, none of us are arguing that it absolutely cannot happen, but I’m not convinced that it can be enforced. I think that, even if, say, Jan 6 went differently, the ... | HungHeadsEmptyHearts | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Feminism would be more widely adopted with men (and more successful) if it wasn't called "feminism"
Names matter...a lot.
Most men that are against feminism, by and large, don't hate women. They would want equality for men and women. If they have a daughter, wife, mother, sister etc, they want these women to be ... | The 'bad' connotations of feminism didn't spring up out of nothing the instant the word was coined.
They were crafted by the people against feminism *before* those 'misunderstandings' existed.
Since they were made specifically to counter feminism, they will be made against it regardless of what the 'name' of feminism... | Your premise is that people would have trouble rejecting a movement based on it's name, right? But most feminists already reject the "equalist," "egalitarian," or so-called "humanist" movements, even though they might have more inviting names than feminism. These groups are easy to reject in spite of their names becaus... | 7smupi | CMV: Feminism would be more widely adopted with men (and more successful) if it wasn't called "feminism" | Names matter...a lot.
Most men that are against feminism, by and large, don't hate women. They would want equality for men and women. If they have a daughter, wife, mother, sister etc, they want these women to be treated well and have the same opportunities they have as men.
But, the name "feminism", to many men, mak... | rmhildebrandt | 5 | 5 | [
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Names matter...a lot.
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Since they were made specifically to counter feminism, they will be made against it regardless of what the 'name' of feminism... | > Most men that are against feminism, by and large, don't hate women. They would want equality for men and women. If they have a daughter, wife, mother, sister etc, they want these women to be treated well and have the same opportunities they have as men.
Ok, it's not that I disagree here, but I kinda feel like you're... | 7smupi | CMV: Feminism would be more widely adopted with men (and more successful) if it wasn't called "feminism" | Names matter...a lot.
Most men that are against feminism, by and large, don't hate women. They would want equality for men and women. If they have a daughter, wife, mother, sister etc, they want these women to be treated well and have the same opportunities they have as men.
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CMV: We should stop debating and start shaming
*I only mean this in the context of certain views which I will elaborate on below*
In the context of bigoted or hateful views (racist, homophobic, sexist views) I think a lot of people think that they can change people’s minds with logical arguments. But I think this is ... | You will *never* change someone's mind by shaming them. It won't get them to reassess their stances, it'll just drive them further into whatever their stance is, because its the only place they feel is safe, and its the only place they receive validation from. If one's only contact with another "side" is negative and a... | The best rebuttal I can think of is this:
Shaming doesn’t work against people who are disgusted with your worldview and who think they and their viewpoints/lifestyles are are fundamentally better than yours.
Shaming only “works” (and even then, by no means reliably for the goal of positive change) when the targets ... | 1jr5nwa | CMV: We should stop debating and start shaming | *I only mean this in the context of certain views which I will elaborate on below*
In the context of bigoted or hateful views (racist, homophobic, sexist views) I think a lot of people think that they can change people’s minds with logical arguments. But I think this is often based on the assumption that the person re... | Squirrelpocalypses | 11 | 11 | [
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CMV: Using different statistical standards for False Accusations vs Rape accusations creates a misleading narrative.
The numbers we use for false accusations statistics and the numbers we use for rape statistics are predicated on completely different standards of measurement. This is not commonly understood causing pe... | Are you arguing the statistics for rape are false, because they’re based on self reporting? Reporting is different from accusing. There’s not much reason to lie on anonymous surveys — some people do, but statisticians have ways to account for that.
Or do think there are more false accusations than we realize? False ac... | > A 50/50 chance is pretty atrocious.
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> Can you clarify this one? What are you implying that there is a 50/50 change of, and where does that ... | 9436xy | CMV: Using different statistical standards for False Accusations vs Rape accusations creates a misleading narrative. | The numbers we use for false accusations statistics and the numbers we use for rape statistics are predicated on completely different standards of measurement. This is not commonly understood causing people to interpret them on the same scale, leading to false premises and incorrect arguments. The result of this is a f... | Ralathar44 | 2 | 2 | [
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CMV: It's selfish for a mother to choose formula feeding without at least attempting to breast feed.
While I agree that fed is best, I find it incredibly selfish that many moms go straight to formula feeding their newborns without even attempting to breast feed. There are of course exceptions to this including a whole... | Can I ask why you chose to frame the issue in the judgemental tone of "selfishness"?
Do you find that binary ultimatums are in anyway useful for analysing circumstances and evaluating outcomes?
Why isn't sufficient to say that parents should educate themselves as best they are able and come to a decision based on the... | > so my statement only applies to mothers who are able to breast feed, or at least able attempt to, but don't in favor of formula feeding.
Single mother who has to use formula for economic reasons. Not everyone has the time to pump, ability to store milk post-pumping, and transport said milk. I’ve read horror stories ... | 6q4jwg | CMV: It's selfish for a mother to choose formula feeding without at least attempting to breast feed. | While I agree that fed is best, I find it incredibly selfish that many moms go straight to formula feeding their newborns without even attempting to breast feed. There are of course exceptions to this including a whole score of medical issues, prior inability to breast feed other children, or an extended NICU stay, so ... | Trancespire | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: a vote for Joe Biden is a vote for genocide
I can't get the thought out of my head that a vote for Biden is a vote for genocide. I voted for him in 2020. He wasn't someone I was excited about, but Trump was actively working to destroy rights that are important to me and people I care about, so I went out and vote... | Do you believe any other politician would behave differently? Who would you vote for?
Do you think that voting for a situation at home matters more than foreign policy? There are many factors who which can influence your decisions.
As meme able as it sounds if rather a genocide under Biden than under Trump.
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Right. This makes me not want to vote for anyone.
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That is a perfectly valid stance, nothing wrong with that if that’s how you feel. | 199yzwr | CMV: a vote for Joe Biden is a vote for genocide | I can't get the thought out of my head that a vote for Biden is a vote for genocide. I voted for him in 2020. He wasn't someone I was excited about, but Trump was actively working to destroy rights that are important to me and people I care about, so I went out and voted for Biden, and I was happy that he won.
But I d... | dubious_unicorn | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Golf is ridiculously overrated
1. Golf has a high prestige (sometimes arrogance) attached to it.
2. It is very popular - that is, it is a general sport unlike say Kayacking.
However, it merits none of these qualities (especially when compared to alternative extra curricular activities/hobbies/sports).
You're ... | > You're great at golf? Great, you are good at putting a ball into a hole with a stick. It's a completely untransferable skill
Don’t you think that with this way of looking at things, you can make almost every hobby and sport sounds stupid? Oh you are good at video games? Am I supposed to be impressed by your ability ... | >CMV: Golf is ridiculously overrated
This is your subjective opinion attacking others subjective opinions.
You dont like golf. That is completely fine. Other people like golf, that is also fine.
I cant reason you out of a position you didnt reason yourself into in the first place.
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2. It is very popular - that is, it is a general sport unlike say Kayacking.
However, it merits none of these qualities (especially when compared to alternative extra curricular activities/hobbies/sports).
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CMV: An act should not be considered a crime unless a human other than the perpetrator is harmed in the act.
There are a lot of "victimless crimes" that are considered morally reprehensible but don't harm (indirectly or directly) another human. Here are some examples:
Animal Cruelty & Bestiality
The act of personal... | How about attempts?
If I shoot a gun at your general direction with 100% intent to kill, and I miss the target, should that not be a crime? The only reason you are alive is because of luck. Should laws really allow those who are morally culpable to escape the punishment simply because they are lucky?
Punishing attemp... | Isn't that the definition of a crime? Some human is affected negatively by the other person's act. Kick over a tombstone, someone, somewhere, is negatively affected by that act. They have to pay to have it fixed, or suffer an emotional trauma by that act. Rob a store, the cashier is traumatized. The owner is hurt monet... | 10sd79e | CMV: An act should not be considered a crime unless a human other than the perpetrator is harmed in the act. | There are a lot of "victimless crimes" that are considered morally reprehensible but don't harm (indirectly or directly) another human. Here are some examples:
Animal Cruelty & Bestiality
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CMV: In self defense, the defender should have significantly more leeway in using force even if it turns out to be excessive.
To be clear, I'm only talking about cases where the threat is still active. If someone's running away you obviously shouldn't be able to shoot them in the back. But if someone punches you and i... | What's the national context here? What you're proposing is actually the law in much of the US; my understanding is that, especially in Stand Your Ground states, you can in fact use pretty much any degree of force to respond to lethal force (which, to the best of my knowledge, can include unarmed attacks).
[Major cave... | So, George Floyd should have used a gun on Derek, under your use of force argument? How would that have ended? And who would have been the 'good' guy?
And, similarly, should everyone and anyone afraid of being targeted by cops have the *leeway* to use a machine gun against them, as per your disproportionate response ... | q5e0jr | CMV: In self defense, the defender should have significantly more leeway in using force even if it turns out to be excessive. | To be clear, I'm only talking about cases where the threat is still active. If someone's running away you obviously shouldn't be able to shoot them in the back. But if someone punches you and is still an active threat to you, you should be able to stab/shoot them to neutralize them. A punch can easily escalate into a f... | corvusfamiliaris | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: There should be no difference between taxes on Capital Gains and Earned Income
I'm in the US so my opinion only really relates to the tax policy here. I feel that the preference in our tax system for capital gains instead of ordinary income is an unfair susbidy towards the rich, who earn the majority of the capi... | Well I hope to maybe help you see why the capital gains incentive is good.
*”I feel that the preference in our tax system for capital gains instead of ordinary income is an unfair susbidy towards the rich, who earn the majority of the capital gains.”*
So I won’t debate that the “rich” (depending on your definition o... | The difference between wages and investment is that wages are always positive. Investments carry a risk of losing the initial investment, so the incentives are inherently different, which I think is why it makes sense to tax it differently.
Disclaimer: This is not meant to be a justification of the specific rates cur... | 7908o0 | CMV: There should be no difference between taxes on Capital Gains and Earned Income | I'm in the US so my opinion only really relates to the tax policy here. I feel that the preference in our tax system for capital gains instead of ordinary income is an unfair susbidy towards the rich, who earn the majority of the capital gains. I would be ok with only taxing real capital gains (meaning over and above... | dew89 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Ben Shapiro will become President of the US
He's a genius; his IQ is probably over 150; he graduated cum laude with his JD from Harvard at age 22--surpassing his peers by 5 years; he's never lost a debate; one or more people in Congress watch his fans' "thug life" videos; and he is very transparent with his facts... | He might get into congress but I think he has said too many inflammatory things. A quick google and you find dumb shit like
>If you pay tuition, you're sponsoring the militant homosexual agenda. If you pay taxes, you're sponsoring the militant homosexual agenda. If your child majors in English, you're sponsoring the ... | Do you think that the conservative base is ready to vote for a Jewish man?
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Why would you think that? The conservative base is very white and rural, a group usually not fond of Jewish people.
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> Why would you think that?
Conservatives are not the alt-right. He's also more of a libertarian. Many c... | 7sid0b | CMV: Ben Shapiro will become President of the US | He's a genius; his IQ is probably over 150; he graduated cum laude with his JD from Harvard at age 22--surpassing his peers by 5 years; he's never lost a debate; one or more people in Congress watch his fans' "thug life" videos; and he is very transparent with his facts and is always willing to engage in argument or an... | PLEASE_USE_LOGIC | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: trans's parent has bad parenting skills. But, they are too small in number which will not become the standard.
technically I have 2 views here, feel free to change either one:
1. The reason why transgender exists is mostly because of bad parenting / parenting skills.
The transgender statistic is bad: Higher sui... | I've seen some hot takes, but this is quite something.
So you're acknowledging here that some people don't fit into traditional gender stereotypes. But instead of thinking that maybe these stereotypes are inadequate, your solution is to bully children into fitting into the norms?
How about if we're talking about left... | I do want to point out, your argument is literally 'trans people get discriminated against, so we need to discriminate against them more'. How does that make any sense?
Plenty of trans kids had parents that constantly pushed them to conform to the stereotypes of their birth sex. It doesn't work to make them not trans.... | 10sc4gf | CMV: trans's parent has bad parenting skills. But, they are too small in number which will not become the standard. | technically I have 2 views here, feel free to change either one:
1. The reason why transgender exists is mostly because of bad parenting / parenting skills.
The transgender statistic is bad: Higher suicide rate, more discrimination, etc. Every Transgender is basically a warrior, they are fighting (intentional or not)... | kagekyaa | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: trans's parent has bad parenting skills. But, they are too small in number which will not become the standard.
technically I have 2 views here, feel free to change either one:
1. The reason why transgender exists is mostly because of bad parenting / parenting skills.
The transgender statistic is bad: Higher sui... | Do you have any evidence for your view?
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It is my best guess. that's why I said "mostly". If you have any statistic/survey on exactly the reason why people are/turn trans. That will def change my view.
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>If you have any statistic/survey on exactly the reason why people are/turn trans. That will def change my ... | I do want to point out, your argument is literally 'trans people get discriminated against, so we need to discriminate against them more'. How does that make any sense?
Plenty of trans kids had parents that constantly pushed them to conform to the stereotypes of their birth sex. It doesn't work to make them not trans.... | 10sc4gf | CMV: trans's parent has bad parenting skills. But, they are too small in number which will not become the standard. | technically I have 2 views here, feel free to change either one:
1. The reason why transgender exists is mostly because of bad parenting / parenting skills.
The transgender statistic is bad: Higher suicide rate, more discrimination, etc. Every Transgender is basically a warrior, they are fighting (intentional or not)... | kagekyaa | 3 | 3 | [
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technically I have 2 views here, feel free to change either one:
1. The reason why transgender exists is mostly because of bad parenting / parenting skills.
The transgender statistic is bad: Higher sui... | I do want to point out, your argument is literally 'trans people get discriminated against, so we need to discriminate against them more'. How does that make any sense?
Plenty of trans kids had parents that constantly pushed them to conform to the stereotypes of their birth sex. It doesn't work to make them not trans.... | Why not post in /r/askreddit and see what type of upbringings people had? Then, you may get a view from this platform and maybe even encourage you to delve deeper and see where global statistics might bring this opinion
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I prefer this sub, so many smart people, and since trans is trending now, I think this is the ... | 10sc4gf | CMV: trans's parent has bad parenting skills. But, they are too small in number which will not become the standard. | technically I have 2 views here, feel free to change either one:
1. The reason why transgender exists is mostly because of bad parenting / parenting skills.
The transgender statistic is bad: Higher suicide rate, more discrimination, etc. Every Transgender is basically a warrior, they are fighting (intentional or not)... | kagekyaa | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: trans's parent has bad parenting skills. But, they are too small in number which will not become the standard.
technically I have 2 views here, feel free to change either one:
1. The reason why transgender exists is mostly because of bad parenting / parenting skills.
The transgender statistic is bad: Higher sui... | > If a kid wants to be the opposite sex, parents should do what's necessary to prevent that to happens.
conversion therapy's been tried. Trying to pressure kids into being cisgender isn't a novel idea.
kids for which parents are not accepting of their identity are higher at risk for health issues
your approach wou... | I do want to point out, your argument is literally 'trans people get discriminated against, so we need to discriminate against them more'. How does that make any sense?
Plenty of trans kids had parents that constantly pushed them to conform to the stereotypes of their birth sex. It doesn't work to make them not trans.... | 10sc4gf | CMV: trans's parent has bad parenting skills. But, they are too small in number which will not become the standard. | technically I have 2 views here, feel free to change either one:
1. The reason why transgender exists is mostly because of bad parenting / parenting skills.
The transgender statistic is bad: Higher suicide rate, more discrimination, etc. Every Transgender is basically a warrior, they are fighting (intentional or not)... | kagekyaa | 3 | 3 | [
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technically I have 2 views here, feel free to change either one:
1. The reason why transgender exists is mostly because of bad parenting / parenting skills.
The transgender statistic is bad: Higher sui... | I mean I get where you’re coming from but it’s absolutely absurd to suggest that transgenderism is solely, or primarily, derived from poor parenting. There’s all sorts of biological factors at play that determine whether someone will experience the notion of incongruity between their chromosomal sex and gender identity... | I do want to point out, your argument is literally 'trans people get discriminated against, so we need to discriminate against them more'. How does that make any sense?
Plenty of trans kids had parents that constantly pushed them to conform to the stereotypes of their birth sex. It doesn't work to make them not trans.... | 10sc4gf | CMV: trans's parent has bad parenting skills. But, they are too small in number which will not become the standard. | technically I have 2 views here, feel free to change either one:
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The transgender statistic is bad: Higher suicide rate, more discrimination, etc. Every Transgender is basically a warrior, they are fighting (intentional or not)... | kagekyaa | 4 | 4 | [
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CMV: trans's parent has bad parenting skills. But, they are too small in number which will not become the standard.
technically I have 2 views here, feel free to change either one:
1. The reason why transgender exists is mostly because of bad parenting / parenting skills.
The transgender statistic is bad: Higher sui... | Trans people will have a poor quality of life because of gender roles
Solution: force gender roles upon all children
Result: A never-ending cycle of people with a lower quality of life due to gender roles
You want to support the very thing that gives these people a poor quality of life in the first place?
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... | I do want to point out, your argument is literally 'trans people get discriminated against, so we need to discriminate against them more'. How does that make any sense?
Plenty of trans kids had parents that constantly pushed them to conform to the stereotypes of their birth sex. It doesn't work to make them not trans.... | 10sc4gf | CMV: trans's parent has bad parenting skills. But, they are too small in number which will not become the standard. | technically I have 2 views here, feel free to change either one:
1. The reason why transgender exists is mostly because of bad parenting / parenting skills.
The transgender statistic is bad: Higher suicide rate, more discrimination, etc. Every Transgender is basically a warrior, they are fighting (intentional or not)... | kagekyaa | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: trans's parent has bad parenting skills. But, they are too small in number which will not become the standard.
technically I have 2 views here, feel free to change either one:
1. The reason why transgender exists is mostly because of bad parenting / parenting skills.
The transgender statistic is bad: Higher sui... | For one, you seem to be under the impression that being trans is a choice. I would encourage you to talk to trans people - this is not the case. Many, if not most, trans people spent a great amount of time questioning themselves, due to the discrimination you cite yourself.
Basically, if I understand your view - you r... | Do you have any evidence for your view?
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It is my best guess. that's why I said "mostly". If you have any statistic/survey on exactly the reason why people are/turn trans. That will def change my view.
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"Mostly" is a bit of a weasel word but what do you think of the many trans people who are still trans despi... | 10sc4gf | CMV: trans's parent has bad parenting skills. But, they are too small in number which will not become the standard. | technically I have 2 views here, feel free to change either one:
1. The reason why transgender exists is mostly because of bad parenting / parenting skills.
The transgender statistic is bad: Higher suicide rate, more discrimination, etc. Every Transgender is basically a warrior, they are fighting (intentional or not)... | kagekyaa | 3 | 3 | [
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technically I have 2 views here, feel free to change either one:
1. The reason why transgender exists is mostly because of bad parenting / parenting skills.
The transgender statistic is bad: Higher sui... | I've seen some hot takes, but this is quite something.
So you're acknowledging here that some people don't fit into traditional gender stereotypes. But instead of thinking that maybe these stereotypes are inadequate, your solution is to bully children into fitting into the norms?
How about if we're talking about left... | I do want to point out, your argument is literally 'trans people get discriminated against, so we need to discriminate against them more'. How does that make any sense?
Plenty of trans kids had parents that constantly pushed them to conform to the stereotypes of their birth sex. It doesn't work to make them not trans.... | 10sc4gf | CMV: trans's parent has bad parenting skills. But, they are too small in number which will not become the standard. | technically I have 2 views here, feel free to change either one:
1. The reason why transgender exists is mostly because of bad parenting / parenting skills.
The transgender statistic is bad: Higher suicide rate, more discrimination, etc. Every Transgender is basically a warrior, they are fighting (intentional or not)... | kagekyaa | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: trans's parent has bad parenting skills. But, they are too small in number which will not become the standard.
technically I have 2 views here, feel free to change either one:
1. The reason why transgender exists is mostly because of bad parenting / parenting skills.
The transgender statistic is bad: Higher sui... | I've seen some hot takes, but this is quite something.
So you're acknowledging here that some people don't fit into traditional gender stereotypes. But instead of thinking that maybe these stereotypes are inadequate, your solution is to bully children into fitting into the norms?
How about if we're talking about left... | Do you have any evidence for your view?
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It is my best guess. that's why I said "mostly". If you have any statistic/survey on exactly the reason why people are/turn trans. That will def change my view.
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The simplified answer to why trans people are trans is because their brain/emotions do not fit their physic... | 10sc4gf | CMV: trans's parent has bad parenting skills. But, they are too small in number which will not become the standard. | technically I have 2 views here, feel free to change either one:
1. The reason why transgender exists is mostly because of bad parenting / parenting skills.
The transgender statistic is bad: Higher suicide rate, more discrimination, etc. Every Transgender is basically a warrior, they are fighting (intentional or not)... | kagekyaa | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: I am against the death penalty.
As I see it, the death penalty is more about revenge than about justice, which can be quite harmful : "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind". Justice isn't about feelings, it's about getting to the truth and doing something about it in a humane way.
Personally, I believe... | So I am against the death penalty in developed, first-world nations, but would not oppose it certain other situations. Are there times and places where you would support the death penalty?
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No, I oppose the death penalty in all cases, I apologize if that wasn't clear. You are correct, my argument is centered aroun... | You talk about justice being about humane consequences, not about feelings, and not just revenge. But you say:
>That way they can actually think about what they did and actually suffer the consequences of their actions by being deprived of their freedom.
Life in prison and the death penalty have the same societal eff... | 942u7o | CMV: I am against the death penalty. | As I see it, the death penalty is more about revenge than about justice, which can be quite harmful : "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind". Justice isn't about feelings, it's about getting to the truth and doing something about it in a humane way.
Personally, I believe that criminals who commit major offen... | slowdownyourneighbor | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Becoming a police officer should mimic the process of becoming a firefighter.
Firefighters tend to be pretty chill, and not just because people who want to be firefighters are chill people. It's the process that weeds out a lot of bad apples.
Let me explain.
In California, becoming a firefighter in a city is i... | In California becoming a police officer is NOT incredibly competitive. Therein lies your problem.
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I think having the police force break down would likely lead to vigilantism. Which over time would become very similar to the mob / cartel ‘protecting you’.
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We already have that with the cops as it is. They get bribed & bought out by the rich/private companies to do their bidding & beat the ones t... | 10s59es | CMV: Becoming a police officer should mimic the process of becoming a firefighter. | Firefighters tend to be pretty chill, and not just because people who want to be firefighters are chill people. It's the process that weeds out a lot of bad apples.
Let me explain.
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CMV: Kanye West is a good producer, an influential individual, and a mediocre rapper / lyricist, whose music is consistently entertaining, but rarely ever rises to a truly artistic level
I should preface this by saying that I’ve never been a huge fan of Kanye. I’ve heard all of his music and have enjoyed most of it wi... | I wonder if you've thought about this, but is Kendrick Lamar's public persona one of the reasons you evaluate his lyricism so much more favorably? If Kanye weren't such a clown would that close the gap and, when taken together with his production, elevate him in your mind?
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That’s probably fair. Kanye often comes ... | "rises to a truly artistic level" is this really the goal post you are defending? The music Kanye makes isn't art?
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That’s probably not the best way to phrase it. I just think he’s often proclaimed as some kind of instantly-legendary artist, whereas I find his music to be consistently entertaining, but never impr... | 8o3x55 | CMV: Kanye West is a good producer, an influential individual, and a mediocre rapper / lyricist, whose music is consistently entertaining, but rarely ever rises to a truly artistic level | I should preface this by saying that I’ve never been a huge fan of Kanye. I’ve heard all of his music and have enjoyed most of it without ever being truly impressed.
His production is always astounding, and the music itself is almost always delightful to hear, but his lyrics hardly ever have anything interesting to s... | jacksonrees | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: I don't see why (strictly legally speaking) United should have settled with Dr. Dao
From a PR perspective, sure I see why.
But I don't see how they did anything wrong from a legal perspective. They in fact barely did anything at all.
Person was on their plane > They asked person to leave their plane > Person re... | Legally Citizens United has a bigger responsibility of care than you in your private home because they are a business.
Also you are conflating civil and criminal issues.
A civil issue arises here when someone is hurt on your property, the surrounding context doesn't matter, you are responsible for all people injured ... | It was not the police. It was the Chicago Department of Aviation officers. They were put on leave though I'm not sure what their ultimate fate was.
The point is that the airline called them to forcibly drag a paying customer from a flight to seat their own employees last minute. The Aviation Officers are meant to det... | 7sg5nz | CMV: I don't see why (strictly legally speaking) United should have settled with Dr. Dao | From a PR perspective, sure I see why.
But I don't see how they did anything wrong from a legal perspective. They in fact barely did anything at all.
Person was on their plane > They asked person to leave their plane > Person refused to leave their plane > United calls the police
That's the end of United's actions t... | ZeusThunder369 | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Romantic comedies no longer have the ability to offer modern Hollywood and the movie industry a unique experience.
# Introduction
This was inspired by my SO's recent demand of the genre and her demand for me to view them with her. I'm **not** going to argue that the impact that Rom-Coms have had throughout the s... | I'm going to disprove you by a "single counter example" argument: Deadpool was visually striking, had a unique soundtrack, included taboo and unfamiliar subjects and was a Romcom thus showing that it was already done and it was a really popular film too.
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Well, I'd say you're half right..
I loved deadpool the fir... | Just a quick question, what do you think of "Silver Linings Playbook"? That was a relatively recent Romantic Comedy that seems to deliver on "taboo topics", visuals, and a unique soundtrack. Also, is just a great general movie.
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**Δ** In my honest opinion, I loved the topic coverage and the soundtrack. However, ... | 942m33 | CMV: Romantic comedies no longer have the ability to offer modern Hollywood and the movie industry a unique experience. | # Introduction
This was inspired by my SO's recent demand of the genre and her demand for me to view them with her. I'm **not** going to argue that the impact that Rom-Coms have had throughout the span of the movie industry has been astronomic, not only for the development of (hybrid) genres but also the progression o... | Bradalam | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: There isn't sufficient evidence to believe God (or the Gods) speak to mankind.
**I am a Deist Universalist. I used to be a Brighamite Mormon.**
My faith tradition taught the Bible, Christianity, and modern-day prophets who receive revelation from God.
If God is speaking, why is He not clear? Why are there so ma... | Why not take just take this argument one step further and just say there isn’t sufficient evidence that God even exists at all outside the confines of your own mind? If you believe God exists without evidence, then why not believe God also speaks to humans without evidence?
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**Deism:** The Big Bang doesn't have a ... | I get where you’re coming from, but I think there’s another angle to consider. If God exists and communicate, why would we expect that communication to be simple, obvious, and universally understood?
Think about how complex human relationships are miscommunication happens all the time, even when people are trying thei... | 1jqdm25 | CMV: There isn't sufficient evidence to believe God (or the Gods) speak to mankind. | **I am a Deist Universalist. I used to be a Brighamite Mormon.**
My faith tradition taught the Bible, Christianity, and modern-day prophets who receive revelation from God.
If God is speaking, why is He not clear? Why are there so many denominations of Christianity? Why are there so many religions? Why are religious ... | MMeliorate | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Social liberals are more interested in competitively signaling compassion than they are about actually helping those who are less fortunate.
Liberals claim to be champions of the underdog and to fight for the oppressed but how true is this? On the face of it most research shows that the opposite is actually true... | >liberals and liberal states give significantly less to charity and volunteer significantly less than conservatives
These numbers are a little misleading. They are true, but they don't give you the whole picture. Liberals are also far more likely to actually be the ones working for the charities than conservatives, an... | > liberals and liberal states give significantly less to charity and volunteer significantly less than conservatives
Source?
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http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/21/opinion/21kristof.html
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I counter with this, more recent, source: https://www.citylab.com/equity/2014/10/who-are-better-people-democrats-or-republic... | 78v87x | CMV: Social liberals are more interested in competitively signaling compassion than they are about actually helping those who are less fortunate. | Liberals claim to be champions of the underdog and to fight for the oppressed but how true is this? On the face of it most research shows that the opposite is actually true (e.g. liberals and liberal states give significantly less to charity and volunteer significantly less than conservatives).
The issues that libera... | bayes_net | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Social liberals are more interested in competitively signaling compassion than they are about actually helping those who are less fortunate.
Liberals claim to be champions of the underdog and to fight for the oppressed but how true is this? On the face of it most research shows that the opposite is actually true... | >liberals and liberal states give significantly less to charity and volunteer significantly less than conservatives
These numbers are a little misleading. They are true, but they don't give you the whole picture. Liberals are also far more likely to actually be the ones working for the charities than conservatives, an... | > liberals and liberal states give significantly less to charity and volunteer significantly less than conservatives
Source?
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http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/21/opinion/21kristof.html
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I counter with this, more recent, source: https://www.citylab.com/equity/2014/10/who-are-better-people-democrats-or-republic... | 78v87x | CMV: Social liberals are more interested in competitively signaling compassion than they are about actually helping those who are less fortunate. | Liberals claim to be champions of the underdog and to fight for the oppressed but how true is this? On the face of it most research shows that the opposite is actually true (e.g. liberals and liberal states give significantly less to charity and volunteer significantly less than conservatives).
The issues that libera... | bayes_net | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Social liberals are more interested in competitively signaling compassion than they are about actually helping those who are less fortunate.
Liberals claim to be champions of the underdog and to fight for the oppressed but how true is this? On the face of it most research shows that the opposite is actually true... | Let's take this a few points at a time
> Why are most liberal protests about social issues rather than economic ones?
Occupy Wall Street was one of the biggest protests in recent memory.
> Protesting against police brutality or marching for gay marriage is mostly about desperately signaling which group you belong t... | >Liberals claim to be champions of the underdog and to fight for the oppressed but how true is this? On the face of it most research shows that the opposite is actually true (e.g. liberals and liberal states give significantly less to charity and volunteer significantly less than conservatives)
Giving less to charity ... | 78v87x | CMV: Social liberals are more interested in competitively signaling compassion than they are about actually helping those who are less fortunate. | Liberals claim to be champions of the underdog and to fight for the oppressed but how true is this? On the face of it most research shows that the opposite is actually true (e.g. liberals and liberal states give significantly less to charity and volunteer significantly less than conservatives).
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CMV: Assuming all dogs (and pets) are safe to touch and more specifically teaching kids that all dogs are safe to touch is wrong and dangerous.
So this came up as part of an unpopular opinion post I had. Basically, someone said its a dog owners responsibility to keep kids away if theres a chance the dog might be unsaf... | owners of dogs should always train dogs to not harm humans (unless thats their specific job), so a dog who bites a human is either badly trained or handled poorly,
how to handle a dog is something you teach a kid so they know how to safely touch a dog/warning signs
how a dog should behave when confronting humans esp... | I may be reading too much into your argument , it seems like saying someone should never touch a dog without permission and if the dog bites someone or cause someone harm that did not first obtain permission the dog / owner bear no responsibility.
In most cases, there is some responsibility shared between both part... | g9ryev | CMV: Assuming all dogs (and pets) are safe to touch and more specifically teaching kids that all dogs are safe to touch is wrong and dangerous. | So this came up as part of an unpopular opinion post I had. Basically, someone said its a dog owners responsibility to keep kids away if theres a chance the dog might be unsafe because many kids are taught that “pets are safe”. I agree the owner should try their best to keep kids away from the dog if their dog is nervo... | FuzzySandwich | 6 | 5 | [
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CMV: a benevolent dictatorship is often a better form of government than a modern democracy.
Obviously there are issues found in all forms of government, but I believe that a benevolent dictatorship, with Qaboos bin Said or France-Albert Rene being two of the best examples, in the long run does less damage and more be... | How do you ensure that a benevolent dictatorship remains benevolent? Even if run by an angel no person lives forever. So what happens when they die? or even if they just become non-benevolent?
That's the real problem, so yeah if you can guarantee the dictatorship will remain benevolent sure it's pretty great, but in ... | [removed]
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Ok I did laugh haha
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But tbh most modern day democratiea aren’t truly democratic | g9wdr6 | CMV: a benevolent dictatorship is often a better form of government than a modern democracy. | Obviously there are issues found in all forms of government, but I believe that a benevolent dictatorship, with Qaboos bin Said or France-Albert Rene being two of the best examples, in the long run does less damage and more benefit to the people as a whole than a democracy is capable of doing.
Democracy often ends up b... | Rustmallow | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The term 'Atheist' is too vague and should not be conflated with 'non-religious'
Everything fundamental that I've ever accepted as truth (from the age of 5 when I stopped believing in Santa) has been rooted in demonstrable science.
Faith based religion cannot provide something that would make me start to conside... | A theist is someone who believes in a god or gods, an atheist does not. You have to be one or the other.
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I have to be one or the other? What if I don't care to consider this?
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That's what an atheist is.
Imagine a rectangle, saying "I don't even think about circles and non-circles. I don't care which I am. T... | It sounds like you're agnostic, which means that you have no opinion on whether higher power(s) exist. Atheists are pretty clear that they definitely have an opinion that higher power(s) don't exist.
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Agnostics are atheists.
They have no belief in deities, which is the definition of the word.
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I might be wr... | q4yf1d | CMV: The term 'Atheist' is too vague and should not be conflated with 'non-religious' | Everything fundamental that I've ever accepted as truth (from the age of 5 when I stopped believing in Santa) has been rooted in demonstrable science.
Faith based religion cannot provide something that would make me start to consider whether or not to accept it. It's a non-starter. It's no different to how I treat any... | [deleted] | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The term 'Atheist' is too vague and should not be conflated with 'non-religious'
Everything fundamental that I've ever accepted as truth (from the age of 5 when I stopped believing in Santa) has been rooted in demonstrable science.
Faith based religion cannot provide something that would make me start to conside... | > Atheists have considered their stance against religion and have formed an opinion that needed religion
I don't fully understand this sentence, particularly the "have formed an opinion that needed religion".
But in general, what I don't understand is that I don't think you can just choose not to have a belief. Like,... | It sounds like you're agnostic, which means that you have no opinion on whether higher power(s) exist. Atheists are pretty clear that they definitely have an opinion that higher power(s) don't exist.
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Agnostics are atheists.
They have no belief in deities, which is the definition of the word.
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Break the wor... | q4yf1d | CMV: The term 'Atheist' is too vague and should not be conflated with 'non-religious' | Everything fundamental that I've ever accepted as truth (from the age of 5 when I stopped believing in Santa) has been rooted in demonstrable science.
Faith based religion cannot provide something that would make me start to consider whether or not to accept it. It's a non-starter. It's no different to how I treat any... | [deleted] | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The term 'Atheist' is too vague and should not be conflated with 'non-religious'
Everything fundamental that I've ever accepted as truth (from the age of 5 when I stopped believing in Santa) has been rooted in demonstrable science.
Faith based religion cannot provide something that would make me start to conside... | Atheist doesn’t mean non-religious, but it’s widely used like that in English, and English not having an official dictionary perpetuates it. The word comes from French word atheist (not Greek) and the official meaning of it is “Personne qui nie l’existence de toute divinité.” which translates roughly to “someone who re... | >I do not form an opinion on something that has no evidence that exists within demonstration. I have not formed an opinion on whether God is, or isn't real, because why would I aspire to hold an absolute belief on anything without proof? Neither side of that argument can productively argue their stance. If you replace ... | q4yf1d | CMV: The term 'Atheist' is too vague and should not be conflated with 'non-religious' | Everything fundamental that I've ever accepted as truth (from the age of 5 when I stopped believing in Santa) has been rooted in demonstrable science.
Faith based religion cannot provide something that would make me start to consider whether or not to accept it. It's a non-starter. It's no different to how I treat any... | [deleted] | 2 | 2 | [
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CMV: At 27, it is not worth the time, effort, or money for me to seek to get a drunk in public incident expunged from my record when I was 18.
edit: repost. My first title was a disgusting, confusing, word vomit.
Age: 18
Freshman year in college.
1. Got arrested for Drunk in Public and underage possession of alcoho... | If you; a) have a PhD and b) are working jobs that require an SF-86, you will make more than enough money to pay off the $100 to just put this behind you forever.
>I have no intention of seeking public office, or working for a company that cares I have a minor criminal record from when I was 18.
Okay? What's to say ... | This might have an impact if you cross borders. It will at the very least be annoying explaining the situation and having border security question you if you are ever detained.
I might even pay it just to not be annoyed with job applications asking if you have a criminal record.
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Thanks for your point. I looked ... | 942070 | CMV: At 27, it is not worth the time, effort, or money for me to seek to get a drunk in public incident expunged from my record when I was 18. | edit: repost. My first title was a disgusting, confusing, word vomit.
Age: 18
Freshman year in college.
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CMV: Facebook feels like such an outdated and clumsy product.
I don't know if it's the layout or if it's the stupid requirements such as asking people to use their real names or the lack of anonymity or the difficulty in joining groups...overall, Facebook feels like such a clumsy product compared to Reddit. And it fee... | Those questions you have to answer are posted by the group, not required by Facebook. They ask questions like that to keep assholes out. They don't take long to answer and they are never difficult questions so if you are angry about them, then unfortunately you are the exact type they are trying to drive away.
You use... | Facebook and Reddit are not designed to work the same way for good reason. Facebook is designed primarily to connect you to people you know in real life and keep you updated on what they are up to. That's why they require your real name. Reddit is designed to connect you to people who share your interests.
Facebook g... | 10rrd9k | CMV: Facebook feels like such an outdated and clumsy product. | I don't know if it's the layout or if it's the stupid requirements such as asking people to use their real names or the lack of anonymity or the difficulty in joining groups...overall, Facebook feels like such a clumsy product compared to Reddit. And it feels like it's a normie cage.
I donno...I am pretty pissed. I wa... | Legitimate-Builder82 | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Police officers are not out to harm African Americans and the majority of police killings are justified
At face value, you'd think that they are, seeing their low percentage of the population (13%) compared to their being shot 23% of times.
However if we look at the FBI statistics, raw data, we see that blacks ... | [Here's the second report from the coroner](https://content.govdelivery.com/attachments/MNHENNE/2020/06/01/file_attachments/1464238/2020-3700%20Floyd,%20George%20Perry%20Update%206.1.2020.pdf)
It says Chauvin was the cause of death.
Have I changed your view?
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It names the drugs as a contributing factor. It does ... | Just to be clear, are you arguing that police shootings of individual African-Americans are justified because they commit more crimes in the aggregate?
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I mean that they are not killed disproportionately or more than any other population group, and most of these incidents are justified on the officers part.
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... | hh3l6k | CMV: Police officers are not out to harm African Americans and the majority of police killings are justified | At face value, you'd think that they are, seeing their low percentage of the population (13%) compared to their being shot 23% of times.
However if we look at the FBI statistics, raw data, we see that blacks are arrested for 29% of crime, but are only shot 23% of the time.
It's even more damning if we factor in the... | Jezzaw21 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Police officers are not out to harm African Americans and the majority of police killings are justified
At face value, you'd think that they are, seeing their low percentage of the population (13%) compared to their being shot 23% of times.
However if we look at the FBI statistics, raw data, we see that blacks ... | Even if the first part of your CMV is true, that police officers are not out to harm African-Americans, that doesn't mean the second is true. Cops have looser regulations on firing their weapon than even soldiers at war do. For a cop, they can fire if they are scared, regardless of if the other person is armed or not. ... | [removed]
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However, george floyd did not die of a drug overdose. Any police officer will tell u kneeling on someones back, especially the neck, with all your body weight will suffocate someone. They're reaching for whatever they can to show what could have been a factor, but I dont believe for a second that he die... | hh3l6k | CMV: Police officers are not out to harm African Americans and the majority of police killings are justified | At face value, you'd think that they are, seeing their low percentage of the population (13%) compared to their being shot 23% of times.
However if we look at the FBI statistics, raw data, we see that blacks are arrested for 29% of crime, but are only shot 23% of the time.
It's even more damning if we factor in the... | Jezzaw21 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: communism is a better alternative to what's happening in US.
The average citizen pays so much in taxes and yet the morons at top cannot care less about us. Then there are guys like Elon musk, who are essentially modern day kings and rules don't apply to them. The amount of incompetence and unprofessionalism in th... | Given you yourself admit that communism has never existed and not failed and admire USSR leaders, are you saying any of the above forms of failed communism would be better than what's happening in the US?
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My gripe is usually with the fact that there would be less "Elons and friends". We do not actually the full e... | >In contrast, communist leaders were the most serious and professional leaders I know from history. The way communism worked meant there were no shitty people like elon who could get rich via corporate ladders and get away with shady stuff. There was no corporate greed. There were no billionaires with unnecessary wealt... | 1jqnzya | CMV: communism is a better alternative to what's happening in US. | The average citizen pays so much in taxes and yet the morons at top cannot care less about us. Then there are guys like Elon musk, who are essentially modern day kings and rules don't apply to them. The amount of incompetence and unprofessionalism in the government almost makes me tear up, it almost feels like they are... | snow-raven7 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Police departments shouldn't be allowed to purchase liability insurance to cover inappropriate or illegal police behavior.
Right now, in most US states, police departments are covered by liability insurance that covers any settlement or lawsuit costs they incur.
Generally, insurance always results in some level ... | This wouldn’t solve the issue though.
Instead of taxpayers spending a relatively small amount on liability insurance, they are now spending an outrageous amount on misconduct lawsuits. Without insurance, this would become a much larger burden on the taxpayer.
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I agree that it doesn't solve all the issues with pol... | Lack of insurance causes a moral hazard as departments are excessively incentivized to avoid behavior that draws expensive lawsuits even when such behavior is appropriate.
If we want to shape police behavior we should use rules, not lawsuits. Lawsuits are just a way of compensating people who are harmed, not a way to... | hh2693 | CMV: Police departments shouldn't be allowed to purchase liability insurance to cover inappropriate or illegal police behavior. | Right now, in most US states, police departments are covered by liability insurance that covers any settlement or lawsuit costs they incur.
Generally, insurance always results in some level of moral hazard, where the safety net of insurance results in more reckless behavior (for instance, one theory suggests that afte... | an27725 | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: the asterisk in trans* is pointless and distracting.
Right, so, I am ostensibly supportive of trans people. I'm onboard with genderfluidity as a general concept, I am not upset at any request to refer to someone by their preferred pronoun (well... maybe not "*xe*" for now, but that's another CMV), and I do recogn... | Would the asterisk not be a placeholder betweens transgender and transsexual for someone that uses them as different terms? Using either term could be inaccurate or offensive to the wrong person, thus trans* for someone you know that identifies as trans-something or not-cis without more specificity.
It's basically us... | http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/blogs/outward/2014/01/10/trans_what_does_it_mean_and_where_did_it_come_from/transposter900.jpg.CROP.promovar-medium2.jpg
While the * can stand for transman or transwoman, there are a host of other terms that it also encompasses. If it were just transman and transwoman, then it mi... | 93zng0 | CMV: the asterisk in trans* is pointless and distracting. | Right, so, I am ostensibly supportive of trans people. I'm onboard with genderfluidity as a general concept, I am not upset at any request to refer to someone by their preferred pronoun (well... maybe not "*xe*" for now, but that's another CMV), and I do recognise that I probably have some inherent transphobic beliefs.... | almostambidextrous | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV:Pragmatically, I believe abortion should be legal, but not because I think it is morally right or the woman’s right to decide.
• With regards to whether it is killing a person: I think there are convincing arguments on both sides of this debate, but I don’t think we will ever be able to come up with definitive obj... | >because I don’t believe we will ever be able to agree whether abortion is killing a person, I again don’t think this should be used as criteria for making the decision.
I think you actually *have to* solve this issue first before moving to other reasons for abortion for two reasons:
1)Wouldn't reason dictate that we... | Clarifying question: Are you suggesting a system where only abortions that fit the criteria you give is legal, or where abortion is legal in general because it's worth it to protect those who fit the criteria?
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CMV: Even God gives the prominent (e.g., people in Hollywood and Washington, D.C.) a pass no matter how evil they are
I hope that everybody who has the privilege of fame and is abusing it is brought down by God swiftly and soon. There is a part of me, nonetheless, that believes that even God seems to love celebrities ... | Are we talking Christianity here?
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Generally, though I’d like to see it from any perspective. I’m willing to take worldviews are different than my worldview into account if they help inform my own. Even if an Atheist said to me, “Based on what I gather from your Scriptures, [whatever view],” I’d be willing to cons... | OP, if you are truly a person of faith, then I urge you to stop vainly question God’s plan and instead put your faith in Him.
It matters not what worldly success the Lord may seem to have bestowed on the wealthy and famous. Their riches are temporary and soon they will know the full everlasting richness of God’s wisd... | 10rvpff | CMV: Even God gives the prominent (e.g., people in Hollywood and Washington, D.C.) a pass no matter how evil they are | I hope that everybody who has the privilege of fame and is abusing it is brought down by God swiftly and soon. There is a part of me, nonetheless, that believes that even God seems to love celebrities more just because He exalted them in the first place. I wish that I could believe that for some, fame is actually a cur... | Nickidewbear | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: It's hypocritical to be offended by such epithets as r*****, k***, n*****, and g**, but not b****, sl**, and w****.
First, I apologize for all of the asterisks. I was once banned for a week in another sub for not using them, so now I'm conforming to Reddit protocol. I imagine everyone knows the words to which I'm... | Bitch, slut, whore - those are words that imply you being a fuck because of things you do. They aren't seen as that of a problem cause no one is attacking whole group of people. If you call someone a whore, you aren't bringing down every woman - cause that epithet implies that this one differs.
Kike, spic, nigger - t... | Who do you think is not offended by being called a bitch, slut, or whore?
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That's true. But those terms are not nearly condemned as much as the others. With the example I gave of Meyers Leonard, for example, I challenge you to find one link or story in sports news in which anything is said about him calling anothe... | q4tuhv | CMV: It's hypocritical to be offended by such epithets as r*****, k***, n*****, and g**, but not b****, sl**, and w****. | First, I apologize for all of the asterisks. I was once banned for a week in another sub for not using them, so now I'm conforming to Reddit protocol. I imagine everyone knows the words to which I'm alluding.
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CMV: Louis CK doesn't deserve to be punished
I'd like to revisit the perception of Louis CK, in the light of the recently found limit of range of the #metoo movement (Aziz Ansari didn't need to be in the news, as has been generally accepted)
There has recently been a cultural consensus that men in power have been get... | Your wife/girlfriend/SO comes home from work crying her eyes out. You ask what's wrong. She tells you her boss trapped her in the bathroom and started masturbating in front of her and was too scared to tell him to stop. She's also found out that he hasn't done this to just her, but to 4 other women. She doesn't feel sa... | Can you define "punishment" for your purposes? That is, formally, "punishment" is something unpleasant delivered by an authority. The general public being mad at him is not a punishment. I would also argue employers deciding not to distribute his media/merchandise because they believe people will not buy it is a financ... | 7s35n8 | CMV: Louis CK doesn't deserve to be punished | I'd like to revisit the perception of Louis CK, in the light of the recently found limit of range of the #metoo movement (Aziz Ansari didn't need to be in the news, as has been generally accepted)
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Woah woah woah, can you justify this for me? I realize this isn't part of your actual view, but it seems to be an important assumption that your actual view depends on, so I'd really like to understand what circles you're part of where this i... | 7s35n8 | CMV: Louis CK doesn't deserve to be punished | I'd like to revisit the perception of Louis CK, in the light of the recently found limit of range of the #metoo movement (Aziz Ansari didn't need to be in the news, as has been generally accepted)
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CMV: There is no such thing as “Economically conservative, socially progressive” or “Socially conservative, economically progressive”.
I often hear online, in media and from peers that they identify with X aspect of being progressive but not Y aspect. I think this is not possible. I will concede you could rephrase it ... | This is ridiculous. You can definitely be socially progressive and economically conservative. That is the case with most Libertarians. There is nothing contradictory about holding those two positions, the examples you provided are weak straw man arguments at best
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I would argue that the libertarian idea to me, see... | Economic conservativism and social progressiveness go hand in hand. It's cheaper to treat people early than it is to let it get out of hand. That's economically conservative.
The modern North American right wing parties aren't economically conservative. They are exclusively socially regressive. The cruelty is the po... | 1jqb9w8 | CMV: There is no such thing as “Economically conservative, socially progressive” or “Socially conservative, economically progressive”. | I often hear online, in media and from peers that they identify with X aspect of being progressive but not Y aspect. I think this is not possible. I will concede you could rephrase it as “ I identify with X aspect more than I identify with Y aspect”.
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CMV: The United States should not defend Taiwan in the event of a Chinese invasion.
Taiwan has been a focal point of Chinese-American tension since the inception of the People’s Republic. I have read several articles arguing that we should defend Taiwan in the event of military invasion.
Examples:
https://time.com/6... | > It’s not worth a third World War, which would impoverish us with far greater efficiency than loss of semiconductors
If we assume complete loss of taiwanese semiconductor capabilities - do you have a rough idea of what that would mean for the US?
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Likely a severe recession. But even if we defended Taiwan, its se... | Taiwan is the keystone in a broader US strategy to 'contain' China. It includes Japan South Korea, the Philippines, Indonesia and Australia. Abandonning Taiwan is just throwing away half a Centuary of geopolitics that the US has already paid for with several wars.
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If our strategy was to contain China, it seems w... | 1991a6d | CMV: The United States should not defend Taiwan in the event of a Chinese invasion. | Taiwan has been a focal point of Chinese-American tension since the inception of the People’s Republic. I have read several articles arguing that we should defend Taiwan in the event of military invasion.
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CMV: The selective animal protein/ product (meat and co.) consumption is irrational, outdated and wasteful.
Greetings
Firstly i would like to mention that i eat meat and in broad sense see nothing wrong with it (when not done excessively and when the items vary enough) ethically and in (near) future will not stop it,... | Not entirely. Cows, pigs, chickens etc. have been selectively bred for hundreds of years to produce more, better food at lower costs. Cats and dogs, however, have been bred to have characteristics that you would want in a pet (e.g being friendly)
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That and economy of scale: raising 1000 cows is cheaper than raisin... | I'd just like to know what the benefit would be from using cats and dogs as a food source. It seems like they would be much more difficult to raise, and much more expensive to feed considering they are both carnivorous. It seems to be rational to focus meat production on large, economically profitable animals like catt... | 93z7ll | CMV: The selective animal protein/ product (meat and co.) consumption is irrational, outdated and wasteful. | Greetings
Firstly i would like to mention that i eat meat and in broad sense see nothing wrong with it (when not done excessively and when the items vary enough) ethically and in (near) future will not stop it, so "why not go vegan" argument is futile. Although i agree that we are eating meat too often and in too big ... | Koolnu | 2 | 2 | [
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CMV: People in America over criticize the rich.
No. I'm not talking about the people who actually fuck up regularly by using questionable exploits to avoid taxation, mistreat their employees as pawns, etc.
We as a society need someone to blame. The problem is we see Problem ( X ) and assume that Rich Person ( Y ) sh... | How much do people in America criticize the rich?
How much should they criticize the rich?
And how do you come up with an objective quantitative answer to these questions?
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So I've change... | A MAJOR part of the problem is that the rich essentially control the government via campaign contributions.
So who do you think ends up writing all of the laws and policy, that end up benefiting the rich?
The rich do, via their lobbyists.
So people are tired of feeling like they don’t have a voice, and that the gove... | g9p0pk | CMV: People in America over criticize the rich. | No. I'm not talking about the people who actually fuck up regularly by using questionable exploits to avoid taxation, mistreat their employees as pawns, etc.
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CMV: I disagree with the notion that drunk consent is not consent
Many high school sex-ed classes in the U.S. these days teach that "drunk consent is not consent." I understand this to mean that if two people consensually engage in intercourse and one (or both?) parties is inebriated, the event is tantamount to rape. ... | I'm having a hard time parsing the dichotomy in your view here. You acknowledge that drunk people may not be capable of consenting to the long term consequences of unprotected sex. By that measure, they are equally incapable of consenting to shorter term consequences.
And if they can't consent to all that, it's illo... | Drunk consent is not consent when you've just met somebody. End of story there. It does get more complicated and into a gray area when people are in relationships, know each other, have planned to drink and have sex, and when both parties are equally drunk. But, I think it's a good rule of thumb that if someone is real... | sme8kj | CMV: I disagree with the notion that drunk consent is not consent | Many high school sex-ed classes in the U.S. these days teach that "drunk consent is not consent." I understand this to mean that if two people consensually engage in intercourse and one (or both?) parties is inebriated, the event is tantamount to rape. It seems many people of my age group subscribe to this belief, and ... | CinnabarEyes | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV African Americans in the USA have themselves to blame for Police violence
So I belive that in the USA at least the reason that there's violence against black Americans and admittedly bad shoots isn't because of racism which if it ever is undeniably is illegal and immoral but I say the real reason that there is pol... | While I don't entirely disagree with you, when you consider the reasons why African Americans commit more crime than other people, it comes down to discrimination in the past - segregation and discrimination post-slavery means that African Americans disproportionately live in poor areas, and therefore are more likely t... | Ok, I'm going to just focus on one bit of what you said.
Data has shown that police encounters with black people are more likely to result in violence even in the context of non violent crime.
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CMV African Americans in the USA have themselves to blame for Police violence
So I belive that in the USA at least the reason that there's violence against black Americans and admittedly bad shoots isn't because of racism which if it ever is undeniably is illegal and immoral but I say the real reason that there is pol... | While I don't entirely disagree with you, when you consider the reasons why African Americans commit more crime than other people, it comes down to discrimination in the past - segregation and discrimination post-slavery means that African Americans disproportionately live in poor areas, and therefore are more likely t... | Ok, I'm going to just focus on one bit of what you said.
Data has shown that police encounters with black people are more likely to result in violence even in the context of non violent crime.
You yourself suggest that this is the case -- in fact, you are saying that the population statistics on violent crime justify... | 93yrja | CMV African Americans in the USA have themselves to blame for Police violence | So I belive that in the USA at least the reason that there's violence against black Americans and admittedly bad shoots isn't because of racism which if it ever is undeniably is illegal and immoral but I say the real reason that there is police violence against them is because they commit 51% of violent crime despite b... | peeps3298 | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: Hating on people who take refuse the COVID-19 Vaccine makes you part of the problem
Especially online I've noticed it's become very accepted to refer to people who refuse the vaccine as "idiots", "deliberately selfish", or even going as far as too make light of, or even act as if it's good when these people get s... | I think you’re talking some sense, but are confusing cause and effect here. There have been several researchers that have argued what you have: essentially deriding or arguing with vaccine hesitant people or vaccine skeptics makes them dig in their heels more. And that makes sense.
I think you’re also right about the... | [removed]
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Just say you didn't read my post
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[removed] | q4s63v | CMV: Hating on people who take refuse the COVID-19 Vaccine makes you part of the problem | Especially online I've noticed it's become very accepted to refer to people who refuse the vaccine as "idiots", "deliberately selfish", or even going as far as too make light of, or even act as if it's good when these people get sick and die.
This is an unprecedented rejection of modern medicine in such a dire circums... | dednbloted | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The trouble young men are having with dating right now is exaggerated and mostly caused by stunted social development rather than anything young women are doing.
It has become common in certain online circles to complain about how many young men are single. It does seem to be true that singleness among young men ... | You are only half correct. The fundamental issue is a catch 22.
If you are male with the 6 6's then you really don't need a personality or skill with interacting with women. They will just throw themselves at you.
You identify the problem with young men as a lack of practice/skill in interacting with women. How do... | Most young men are having those issues, and most young men aren’t socially awkward or underdeveloped (at least compared to female counterparts)
I think one big misconception in this conversation is that women are at FAULT or doing something wrong in the scenario. They aren’t in the wrong, but men still have to cope w... | 1991b9g | CMV: The trouble young men are having with dating right now is exaggerated and mostly caused by stunted social development rather than anything young women are doing. | It has become common in certain online circles to complain about how many young men are single. It does seem to be true that singleness among young men is particularly high right now, but the reasons for this are not what many dejected young men say they are.
Those in the so-called "manosphere" or the various "pilled"... | Grandemestizo | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Society needs to get back to ignoring speech someone doesn't like instead of trying to get them fired or cancelled.
There are exceptions to this and that is if they are in a position of power and authority and their speech indicated they are negatively impacting groups of people in their lives due to being the ow... | >As for the rest of the public if someone says something that offends you, move on they have a right to say whatever they want as long as they are not threatening someone else and so do you.
People absolutely do have the right to move on and ignore it if they want to. And they also have the freedom to challenge it, cr... | [deleted]
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I don't mean peoples shouldn't speak out if they have an issue with something, but they should be willing to debate and converse not try and ruin someone's life or career based on what they say. There is no free speech if saying an unpopular opinion means you are risking employment.
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> not try and ... | q4r1f1 | CMV: Society needs to get back to ignoring speech someone doesn't like instead of trying to get them fired or cancelled. | There are exceptions to this and that is if they are in a position of power and authority and their speech indicated they are negatively impacting groups of people in their lives due to being the owner of a business, a politician, or a person of legal authority.
With in that exception it needs to be clearly targeted t... | Andalib_Odulate | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Catholic Saints are equivalent to pagan minor gods
So I have seen a lot of people saying that Christianity is a polytheist religion because of Trinity. While I do not disagree, I find the cult of saints to be even more related to polytheism, although never discussed.
Catholics (I'm not sure about the other Chri... | All the praying to saints you talk about is asking for intercession. Catholics do not pray for help from saints by asking the saints to use their powers(they don’t have any) they pray to ask for intercession and an eventual answer from God. Saints have certain things they protect/pray for, but still aren’t the ones car... | "I have said: You are gods and all of you the sons of the most High". (Psalm 81/82:6, quoted in John 10:34)
The saints, by taking part in God's divine nature, have become like him to an extent. They are comparable with lower-case gods, who have a limited, but supernatural nature and deserve veneration for that. Idolat... | g9l470 | CMV: Catholic Saints are equivalent to pagan minor gods | So I have seen a lot of people saying that Christianity is a polytheist religion because of Trinity. While I do not disagree, I find the cult of saints to be even more related to polytheism, although never discussed.
Catholics (I'm not sure about the other Christian denominations since I live in a catholic country) p... | judicorn99 | 3 | 3 | [
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