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CMV: Transgenderism contradicts itself
I'm going to try to ask this in the most respectful way possible, as my intention is absolutely not to insult or invalidate anyone.
Over the past few years, as gender has become more and more of a fluid concept, many people (including myself) question the role or necessity of ge... | So a lot of what you're talking about here as gender is what I would call gender ***roles***. Gender roles are archaic and as a trans man, I want to abolish gender roles. But that doesn't mean I want to abolish gender itself.
Gender for me isn't a social construct. Gender is about how the brain works. People get gende... | Transgender people basically just don't feel that their physical traits match how their brain is wired. And not in a way that stems from social pressures, but rather in a way that means that while they have a specific anatomy, they don't feel like it's the 'correct' anatomy to match their brain.
Similar to how someone... | l1nhmf | CMV: Transgenderism contradicts itself | I'm going to try to ask this in the most respectful way possible, as my intention is absolutely not to insult or invalidate anyone.
Over the past few years, as gender has become more and more of a fluid concept, many people (including myself) question the role or necessity of gender altogether. We now understand that ... | 1,611,191,523 | stelllz | gk0k251 | gk0g2qg | 13 | 3 |
CMV: White Privillege doesnt exist
I dont believe white privillege exists. I dont think there is anything specifically about white people that gives them an advantage. A white person in certain African countries certainly dont have privillege. A white person in certain Asian areas I dont think would have privillege.
... | It’s not entirely clear what you’re saying doesn’t exist.
For example nobody has ever claimed that whiteness has some intrinsic magic, apart from the demographics, history, laws and culture of a particular region or country. So when you say that white people can have a disadvantage in certain times and places, that’s ... | I think white privelege does exist
As a brief example, a Polish or Romanian immigrant in the UK or Ireland is unlikely to listen to racial slurs shouted at them across the street, whereas a Bangladeshi or Nigerian may experience this - this is because their skin colour makes them a target in a way that the Eastern Eur... | 17o8cuw | CMV: White Privillege doesnt exist | I dont believe white privillege exists. I dont think there is anything specifically about white people that gives them an advantage. A white person in certain African countries certainly dont have privillege. A white person in certain Asian areas I dont think would have privillege.
I think race privillege exists but ... | 1,699,176,726 | ladwithopinions | k7x9sjo | k7wq989 | 8 | 1 |
CMV: Some forms of feminism won't help in achieving gender equality
I'm writing this as a woman and someone who has seen lots of post about feminism. For the record, I do want gender equality. I believe that women should be treated with respect and they should be treated equally as men. The problem I have with some fe... | Could you specify which forms of feminism you're talking about? Because tweets from random people is not a form of feminism. | \> intent on destroying the nuclear family.
That intention is in feminist literature. | ir7rpn | CMV: Some forms of feminism won't help in achieving gender equality | I'm writing this as a woman and someone who has seen lots of post about feminism. For the record, I do want gender equality. I believe that women should be treated with respect and they should be treated equally as men. The problem I have with some feminists is that they want respect and be empowering but then they sta... | 1,599,893,313 | Yinry | g4wx8y7 | g4wvxn9 | 18 | 3 |
CMV: It would have been better for U.S. domestic policy if the South had won the American Civil War.
So assuming that the South manages to "win" the American Civil War in the sense that it secedes from the Union, I think that while it would have serious negative ramifications overall, it would have been better for U.S... | One of the most important things about domestic policy is the well-being of the people who live there. It's true, but also deceptive and missing the point, to say that all the people who were slaves (and their descendants) still lead terrible lives under slavery, but we don't have to consider them because they're not ... | I'm slightly confused about the nature of your question. Are you saying that, overall, all things included, if the South won and successfully left the Union, that would be better? Or is your question, if the north lost, the north (in this case, the US Federal government) as a whole would be better off? | 7i1zu7 | CMV: It would have been better for U.S. domestic policy if the South had won the American Civil War. | So assuming that the South manages to "win" the American Civil War in the sense that it secedes from the Union, I think that while it would have serious negative ramifications overall, it would have been better for U.S. domestic policy.
In my mind, the vast majority of sectarian and ideological conflict in the United ... | 1,512,601,509 | Byzantine555 | dqvi8n4 | dqvi5wd | 6 | 1 |
CMV: If a woman hits a man, the man should be able to hit back
There's an old saying: boys, don't hit girls. And for good reason. Typically, boys are stronger and it's not fair.
However, if a girl hits a boy, that saying should go out the window because that girl is abusing her power. If you don't want to be hit, don... | This is a bad solution. The better solution is to take assault perpetrated by women seriously. Nobody should be hitting anyone legally lmao | What do you consider the difference between self defense and "hitting back" to be? | gar6jg | CMV: If a woman hits a man, the man should be able to hit back | There's an old saying: boys, don't hit girls. And for good reason. Typically, boys are stronger and it's not fair.
However, if a girl hits a boy, that saying should go out the window because that girl is abusing her power. If you don't want to be hit, don't hit people.
Also, did you know, female babies have a higher ... | 1,588,231,874 | windows_n_cheese | fp1eohf | fp1ehyv | 46 | 3 |
CMV: Canada should open the Northwest Passage and adopt the view that it is an international strait.
The Northwest Passage, now that all the ice up there is melting, can be a huge boon to Asia, Europe, and the Americas. It can cut trips through Panama significantly and can only facilitate world trade. I think Canada h... | > There are many, many important straits worldwide considered international waters specifically so one country can't strangle trade if they want to. Malacca. Dover. Gibraltar. Why can the Passage not be the same?
None of those straits are internal to one nation, they are all shared by multiple nations (Malacca between... | Property claims are not determined simply by whose bodies are there. If so, parts of Southern California would probably be Mexico. Under the legal doctrine of straight baselines, Canada owns the passage as internal waters.
And because they own it, they don't have to make a profit from it if they don't want to. But th... | 7t1f7t | CMV: Canada should open the Northwest Passage and adopt the view that it is an international strait. | The Northwest Passage, now that all the ice up there is melting, can be a huge boon to Asia, Europe, and the Americas. It can cut trips through Panama significantly and can only facilitate world trade. I think Canada has very little basis for considering such a potentially important trade route as "internal waters" and... | 1,516,932,879 | Legario | dt98flc | dt96cug | 6 | 5 |
CMV: I don't understand why the fat acceptance movement is a thing
Just to clarify, I do not condone bullying or ridicule of obease individuals.
I do not understand why we are telling fat people why it is okay to be fat. Obesity is a real issue with real problems. It is in the best interest of obese individuals to ta... | Firstly, the movement is not telling anyone that they are healthy when fat, or that they should not lose weight to support their health - at least that is not the mainstream.
The problem being addressed is the tendency for all ideas of self to be tanked because of a single dimension of the person - their fatness. Wha... | A couple points I've heard with respect to this debate include (i) it's not clear if there is necessarily a scientific consensus about whether or to what extent it is actually unhealthy to be obese (e.g. Some say it really matters where in the body the extra weight is stored). Not saying I have the expertise to defend ... | 7t0d81 | CMV: I don't understand why the fat acceptance movement is a thing | Just to clarify, I do not condone bullying or ridicule of obease individuals.
I do not understand why we are telling fat people why it is okay to be fat. Obesity is a real issue with real problems. It is in the best interest of obese individuals to take control of their weight if they want to live long healthy lives.
... | 1,516,922,777 | Hoemguy | dt90irh | dt8v1c7 | 24 | 1 |
CMV: Canada should open the Northwest Passage and adopt the view that it is an international strait.
The Northwest Passage, now that all the ice up there is melting, can be a huge boon to Asia, Europe, and the Americas. It can cut trips through Panama significantly and can only facilitate world trade. I think Canada h... | If you expect them to open and maintain a trading route, it would be crazy off them to just give it away after. So it's international...who's going to pay to build the lighthouses (just to start)? Canada should be compensated for its work and services.
And beyond that, it's awfully rare for a government to willingly ... | When you say they should open the passage, do you mean physically, like with icebreakers and maintaining a seaway? | 7t1f7t | CMV: Canada should open the Northwest Passage and adopt the view that it is an international strait. | The Northwest Passage, now that all the ice up there is melting, can be a huge boon to Asia, Europe, and the Americas. It can cut trips through Panama significantly and can only facilitate world trade. I think Canada has very little basis for considering such a potentially important trade route as "internal waters" and... | 1,516,932,879 | Legario | dt9541q | dt94tyh | 6 | 3 |
CMV: Mothers Generally Make Better Primary Caretakers
Let me just start by saying that this is assertion is in generality. There are obvious cases where the mother is a worse parent than the father.
I've heard the statistics that say that the father is just as important as the mother to a child's development and thi... | I don't understand your view. Obviously, men can't get pregnant or breast-feed which means that they cannot participate in primary child bearing and rearing activities. This is not an opinion, it's a fact. So my question is what part of the view are you looking to change?
Are you saying that there are other care relat... | I would like to note that even your source where you specify that the relation is biological, I'd have to disagree.
A person who grew up in a violent and crime-ridden neighborhood would probably react differently far more instinctively and drastically to say, the sound of a gun cocking, compared to a person who grew u... | czno7l | CMV: Mothers Generally Make Better Primary Caretakers | Let me just start by saying that this is assertion is in generality. There are obvious cases where the mother is a worse parent than the father.
I've heard the statistics that say that the father is just as important as the mother to a child's development and this is true. That doesn't mean that the father is equally... | 1,567,616,762 | Diylion | eyzk1ew | eyzhhkg | 2 | 1 |
CMV: Some forms of feminism won't help in achieving gender equality
I'm writing this as a woman and someone who has seen lots of post about feminism. For the record, I do want gender equality. I believe that women should be treated with respect and they should be treated equally as men. The problem I have with some fe... | To modify your view, like other commentors on here are saying, saying "all men are scum" / "pigs" etc. isn't engaging in "feminism".
More broadly though, I think a lot of women you will hear saying those kinds of things are often calling out specific problematic behaviors associated with "traditional masculinity" that... | Is "men are pigs"va form of feminism? Calling men pigs is more of a woman thing than a feminist thing.
Like if you talked to some ultraconservative woman who believes men should be the head of the household and college is just for finding a husband and so forth and you asked her if men are pigs, she'd probably say ye... | ir7rpn | CMV: Some forms of feminism won't help in achieving gender equality | I'm writing this as a woman and someone who has seen lots of post about feminism. For the record, I do want gender equality. I believe that women should be treated with respect and they should be treated equally as men. The problem I have with some feminists is that they want respect and be empowering but then they sta... | 1,599,893,313 | Yinry | g4wsn5j | g4wr93w | 127 | 9 |
CMV: the production of the movie “Mignonnes” (english “Cuties”) was exploitative of its child actors in a way that is exactly contrary to the film’s message.
First of all, fuck QAnon
Cuties is social commentary critical of the “hyper sexualization” of young girls, about an eleven year old from a conservative family ... | > I’m seriously confused as to why the showrunners (mostly the writer who was clearly very sincere in her messaging) were willing to sexualize children in order to make a point against the sexualization of children.
It's simple, because the director said so. That is, the movie is based on real facts from the director'... | I basically agree with you, and am starting to think entertainment using humans should have to go through a formal review process like the ethical review boards in science research with human subjects.
However, since this is CMV, we might use the same standard in the other direction. Research on humans is allowed eve... | irbvcp | CMV: the production of the movie “Mignonnes” (english “Cuties”) was exploitative of its child actors in a way that is exactly contrary to the film’s message. |
First of all, fuck QAnon
Cuties is social commentary critical of the “hyper sexualization” of young girls, about an eleven year old from a conservative family who basically goes down a rabbit hole of sexualized dancing in order to fit in. I thought the movie was extremely powerful and effective, but in order to achie... | 1,599,914,395 | yourarguement | g4xjp8l | g4xff2p | 5 | 2 |
CMV: There should be a term defining the middle ground between sexual harassment and sexual assault.
This is a view I really think I need to change so ...please help.
I woke up to what felt like kissing and found a guy in my bed. Though I definitely felt violated and scared I'm not quite comfortable calling it assaul... | In a legal sense, this is why many crimes have degrees that come with different levels of punishment. I'm from Michigan and I'm a law student so I'm vaguely familiar with the statutes, but to the best of my knowledge, there are several degrees, some of which involve penetration (and then there's a list of severities un... | If someone touched you in a sexual manner without your consent you can call it whatever feels right to you including sexual assault.
I want you it’s normal to feel like what happened to you isn’t “that bad”. For a long time I felt like I couldn’t call what happened to me because I didn’t fight back or tell him to sto... | l1q55l | CMV: There should be a term defining the middle ground between sexual harassment and sexual assault. | This is a view I really think I need to change so ...please help.
I woke up to what felt like kissing and found a guy in my bed. Though I definitely felt violated and scared I'm not quite comfortable calling it assault because that word is used to describe everything from groping to rape. I feel that when I use the wo... | 1,611,200,331 | iloveyoubutyou | gk17fsg | gk176cd | 23 | 5 |
CMV: Catholicism is the least Christ-like Christian religion
*I was doing an appointment on sociology when I started to dig a little too deep into Religion history and come up with this post, feel free to prove me I'm wrong because I probably am.*
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Let's start with 3 of the well-known ten-commandments.
>II ... | **Saints:**
**Catholics do not pray TO saints. They ask saints to pray for them.** When you ask your friend to pray for you, you are not praying to your friend. If you ask your pastor to pray for you, same thing. Saints are similar, as I understand orthodox catholic doctrine. The difference is they see God's face or c... | I’m not religious myself and my knowledge on Catholicism only comes from marrying into a Catholic family. I’m not expecting to CYV but I’m interested in the discussion .
- let’s start with commandment II: I think you are misreading this. This is another form of "Thou shalt have no other gods before me". If the Cathol... | l1sabl | CMV: Catholicism is the least Christ-like Christian religion | *I was doing an appointment on sociology when I started to dig a little too deep into Religion history and come up with this post, feel free to prove me I'm wrong because I probably am.*
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Let's start with 3 of the well-known ten-commandments.
>II - [Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image](https://en... | 1,611,208,463 | Gralmeidan | gk1do2a | gk1bazr | 10 | 8 |
CMV: The American show "glee" (whilst entertaining) failed to get across many messages that it attempted to use.
My main focus will be on an episode where it had sexual abuse of two of the characters, Ryder and Kitty. It was trying to get across that sexual abuse of males does exist and deserves as much attention and ... | I personally love Glee although it has its shortcomings and flaws as a show.
The other characters' reaction to learning of Ryder's abuse, though realistic for high schoolers, also kinda rubbed me the wrong way. However since your final question in the post was if I think glee 'failed', it definitely has not failed des... | I never watched Glee, but sounds like they were trying to show the reality of society in the episode; sexual abuse of males is also an issue. It’s much easier to be objective and rational as a third-party. If the teacher reprimanded them, and there was no resolution I might be more inclined to think that Ryder was wron... | iqcffh | CMV: The American show "glee" (whilst entertaining) failed to get across many messages that it attempted to use. | My main focus will be on an episode where it had sexual abuse of two of the characters, Ryder and Kitty. It was trying to get across that sexual abuse of males does exist and deserves as much attention and sympathy as sexual abuse of males.
In this episode the group are in a circle and Ryder discloses that when he was ... | 1,599,772,293 | wigglypuff12 | g4wr9qh | g4rjweb | 2 | 1 |
CMV: Cardi B and Megan Thee Stallion's summer hit "WAP" didn't break all the ground attributed to it.
I'm sure most people have either heard WAP, or heard of WAP. To some it is considered an exercise in vulgarity and excess detail. To others it is seen as a ground-breaking smash hit that opened up a lot of new opportu... | WAP doesn't just talk about sex. It talks about how they want kinky aggressive fetish sex. They want to be spat on, choked, put on display in public, degraded, tied up, beaten, and forced to experience pain. For a long time this was considered completely unacceptable for women to say. Women could like sex, but it had t... | >Most of the serious reaction has been from those who constantly feel they need to disprove its value.
To the contrary, WAP dropped on August 7th, 2020 and by the 8th people were seriously lauding it with accolades like "the epitome of female empowerment" and such; the conservative response, most famously from Ben Sha... | l1le6n | CMV: Cardi B and Megan Thee Stallion's summer hit "WAP" didn't break all the ground attributed to it. | I'm sure most people have either heard WAP, or heard of WAP. To some it is considered an exercise in vulgarity and excess detail. To others it is seen as a ground-breaking smash hit that opened up a lot of new opportunities to female rappers, and women in the music scene in general. I'm here to challenge the latter.
W... | 1,611,185,135 | illogictc | gk0jy6y | gk076dg | 17 | 3 |
CMV: The Xbox-style controller layout is ergonomically superior to that of the Playstation
Specifically, I am talking about the Xbox's offset thumbsticks compared to the Playstation's symmetrical design, with both sticks in the lower area.
The upper left position--where the Xbox has the left thumbstick and the PS has... | Someone mentioned hand size previously, but I'd like to add finger length to that as well - I am female, and it's always been a sad fact for me that these systems are just generally not designed with us in mind at all. The PS4 stick placement is much superior in my eyes, and in other women who I know game, simply becau... | Something that comes to mind. It's not necessarily a point I would argue but instead one that I would like to submit for consideration: The slightly more "strained" position of the left thumbstick on the Sony controller may prime the thumb for performance movment like snappier response or more even "ease" with which ea... | d0hdkh | CMV: The Xbox-style controller layout is ergonomically superior to that of the Playstation | Specifically, I am talking about the Xbox's offset thumbsticks compared to the Playstation's symmetrical design, with both sticks in the lower area.
The upper left position--where the Xbox has the left thumbstick and the PS has the d-pad--is the most easily accessible area for the left thumb. When gripping a controlle... | 1,567,780,031 | forydo1 | ezam0dq | eza6m2a | 79 | 7 |
CMV: Free awards and the large amount of cheap reaction awards has devalued the meaning of Reddit awards
With the new system of people able to claim free awards, and the large array of cheaper reaction awards, I now often see posts with dozens and hundreds of awards, which has desensitised me to the specialness of awa... | > And for those wondering about free awards: On Reddit mobile, the coin section up the top may say free, and upon clicking it there is a free box, which when opened gives you a free award to give out within 24 hours
You get 1 free once a week from what I've noticed. I think it is smart advertising. It helped me de... | To modify your view here:
>They used to be a rare or special thing to acknowledge something special or show gratitude, but now these awards are just thrown around every where and no longer have the same meaning to me as in the past.
While it's true that making Reddit awards cheaper might make them less special, consi... | iqlysz | CMV: Free awards and the large amount of cheap reaction awards has devalued the meaning of Reddit awards | With the new system of people able to claim free awards, and the large array of cheaper reaction awards, I now often see posts with dozens and hundreds of awards, which has desensitised me to the specialness of awards.
They used to be a rare or special thing to acknowledge something special or show gratitude, but now ... | 1,599,809,155 | elch3w | g4t3txq | g4t1j7o | 55 | 4 |
CMV: Advanced mathematics (discrete maths, etc) seems pointless outside of society. It's an advanced game with a set of rules that we invented and is no way a discovery.
Lately I’ve been stressing over the fact that I chose the “wrong” major for my upcoming undergraduate course at university. Due to my interests in co... | The building that you woke up in this morning was designed by an architect that relies on an understanding of trigonometry and geometry.
The milk you put in your cereal was tested for quality by a chemist who used stoichiometry and discrete mathematics.
When you got in your car to drive to school it only turned on b... | That sort of math is incredibly useful to be productive in computer science. Take, for example, google maps. When you ask for directions from point A to point B, it needs to evaluate what the fastest routes are from among a *huge* number of possibilities, and it needs to do that very quickly. If we represent a reasonab... | 698nl0 | CMV: Advanced mathematics (discrete maths, etc) seems pointless outside of society. It's an advanced game with a set of rules that we invented and is no way a discovery. | Lately I’ve been stressing over the fact that I chose the “wrong” major for my upcoming undergraduate course at university. Due to my interests in computers, naturally I chose Computer Science as my major for university. Though I’ve stumbled to the point where I feel like I chose a major with courses (mostly maths) tha... | 1,493,916,105 | ohheyworld | dh4oozz | dh4m08u | 6 | 1 |
CMV: Wakanda actually seems like a pretty awful place.
I mean both in regards to the in universe realities/plot and people's reactions to it.
Probably the most problematic aspects of the film were with Wakanda and its social structure. Wakanda is a black enthnostate monarchy where the only things needed to rule are ... | FYI, there is nothing in Wakandas rules that say a woman cannot be the leader of the country. In the comics, T'challas sister takes over leadership at various points when he is away, and in the most recent (or at least one recent) storyline I believe his daughter (who is mixed race) succeeds him as ruler of Wakanda an... | Utopia is an imagined community that possesses nearly perfect qualities for it's citizens. This does not mean that it has to be perfect for everybody. One person's utopia is another's dystopia. There is no utopia that will be perfect for everybody.
For oppressed, utopia wouldn't be a place without oppression. It wo... | l1m8ic | CMV: Wakanda actually seems like a pretty awful place. | I mean both in regards to the in universe realities/plot and people's reactions to it.
Probably the most problematic aspects of the film were with Wakanda and its social structure. Wakanda is a black enthnostate monarchy where the only things needed to rule are royal blood and the ability to kick the current king's a... | 1,611,187,632 | chadonsunday | gk0feod | gk0anm5 | 33 | 0 |
CMV: You have a duty to retreat before using lethal force.
In recent times, laws have recently been passed allowing you to use lethal force to kill someone who is attacking you, even if you had another safe option, such as to run away. I believe no such laws should be on the books.
**Argument 1: Proportionality**
1.... | To your first argument, I would argue it is proportional to use lethal force to prevent the use of lethal force. To put it another way: the use of lethal force is sufficiently proportional to the attempted use of lethal force. | In a place such as a person's home, why should there be a duty to retreat? The act of retreating from one's home itself entails risk to yourself that in some cases would be greater than the risk of confronting the threat at a point of maximum advantage, i.e. the home. | 69a8pe | CMV: You have a duty to retreat before using lethal force. | In recent times, laws have recently been passed allowing you to use lethal force to kill someone who is attacking you, even if you had another safe option, such as to run away. I believe no such laws should be on the books.
**Argument 1: Proportionality**
1. If someone does you an injustice, your response must be pro... | 1,493,930,885 | orek74 | dh503z1 | dh4zo3q | 27 | 9 |
CMV: Any ethic group (including whites) can experience racism, it is just that the defenition of racism has changed to only include "structural" racism.
Hello,
My place of work has recently been running workshops on "anti-racism". I myself have been trying to engage with it as much as I can to try and better myself. ... | As per usual I would like to offer you a nudge in your position;
>Any ethic group (including whites) can experience racism, it is just that the defenition of racism **has changed** to only include "structural" racism.
I often see this claim floating about - along with all manner of claims as to how and why they chang... | tl;dr: Of course white people can be victims of racial prejudice. We just distinguish between racial prejudice and "racism," because racism refers to a specific phenomenon that is related to but distinct from prejudice generally. Colloquially, racism is used synonymously with racial prejudice, which in day to day conve... | 17nqvow | CMV: Any ethic group (including whites) can experience racism, it is just that the defenition of racism has changed to only include "structural" racism. | Hello,
My place of work has recently been running workshops on "anti-racism". I myself have been trying to engage with it as much as I can to try and better myself.
One aspect that I find difficult is the idea that racism has to have a power inbalance. In my own country (the UK) a white person cannot experience raci... | 1,699,119,733 | BrightonTeacher | k7tnykp | k7tj7gm | 213 | 40 |
CMV: Beauty and the Beast is an incredibly creepy movie
The whole premise of the movie is incredibly creepy with a young woman falling for a man who has trapped her in his castle. The movie carefully positions our viewpoint, to sympathize with the beast, but in reality, he is verbally abusive and suffers from extrem... | I mean, this is absolutely true what you say about the film.
> It is my belief that the only reason this movie gets praise for any reason is due to extreme Disney nostalgia.
If I were to try to change your view, I would say that it's not Disney Nostalgia - it's the fact that as a culture we tend to overlook a lot of... | Okay. Talked to my wife and she’s got some good CMV fuel if you want to be able to accept this movie.
Consider the time period the movie was made in. Belle is the first female lead in a Disney movie who could be described as one of the “power princesses” and she ushered in the new roles for “princesses” that iterativ... | eqhs87 | CMV: Beauty and the Beast is an incredibly creepy movie | The whole premise of the movie is incredibly creepy with a young woman falling for a man who has trapped her in his castle. The movie carefully positions our viewpoint, to sympathize with the beast, but in reality, he is verbally abusive and suffers from extreme anger issues. These are problems that would not and ... | 1,579,361,799 | Atven | fesnwym | fesbpen | 280 | 59 |
CMV: The West should stop being pathologically empathetic,altruistic,agreeable
Game theory (tit for tat) says that the successful strategy is to treat others the way you are treated. Every other group and civilization is looking to get stronger and look after their interests. The West should do the same. Why is it tha... | >Game theory (tit for tat) says that the successful strategy is to treat others the way you are treated.
Game theory is not defined as simple "tit for tat." There are two types, [cooperative game theory](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooperative_game_theory) and [non-cooperative game theory](https://en.m.wikipedia.... | Mathematician here. “Tit for tat” isn’t game theory. Game theory does not “say that the successful strategy is to treat others how you are treated.” I have no idea where you’re getting that from but it is overly simplistic for a complex topic like game theory and not remotely accurate. | ganlml | CMV: The West should stop being pathologically empathetic,altruistic,agreeable | Game theory (tit for tat) says that the successful strategy is to treat others the way you are treated. Every other group and civilization is looking to get stronger and look after their interests. The West should do the same. Why is it that only the West is called upon to be altruistic and sacrifice for the good of ot... | 1,588,215,269 | GaryOldmanrules | fp0tzp9 | fp0smuh | 13 | 3 |
CMV: Wakanda actually seems like a pretty awful place.
I mean both in regards to the in universe realities/plot and people's reactions to it.
Probably the most problematic aspects of the film were with Wakanda and its social structure. Wakanda is a black enthnostate monarchy where the only things needed to rule are ... | I'm going to assume that you're talking *only* about the movie and not about the comics, as some of your points (like a female ruler not being allowed) are directly contradicted by the comics where Shuri has taken up the role of Black Panther and become Queen of Wakanda before.
I think you're making some pretty stark ... | > Yes, it's good to be in movies about racism, but black people also like being in movies that aren't about overcoming racism.
Which is sort of problematic given the main antagonist killmonger's entire world view is build around racism. His dying breath is literally talking about throwing him in the ocean so he can d... | l1m8ic | CMV: Wakanda actually seems like a pretty awful place. | I mean both in regards to the in universe realities/plot and people's reactions to it.
Probably the most problematic aspects of the film were with Wakanda and its social structure. Wakanda is a black enthnostate monarchy where the only things needed to rule are royal blood and the ability to kick the current king's a... | 1,611,187,632 | chadonsunday | gk0cc3o | gk0brtd | 1,563 | 13 |
CMV: The jury system is unfair and outdated
The jury system is a ridiculous way for people to be convicted based on. The public are too uneducated, biased and sometimes just straight up too stupid to make serious decisions about whether people receive life or death sentences.
The example that triggered me to make thi... | In each case you mention there were unique circumstances. In the first case the prosecutor clearly didn't educate the jury well. In the second case the defense didn't. In the OJ case as well as the other case you mention it was systemic racism.
Most cases never get to a jury these days. In the cases that do it i... | There's a quote from Winston Churchill which goes something like: "Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others"
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Jury trials are not infallible. They have and will go on to result in injustices. However, any alternative presents the issue of a future tyrannical government manipulating... | er9ifr | CMV: The jury system is unfair and outdated | The jury system is a ridiculous way for people to be convicted based on. The public are too uneducated, biased and sometimes just straight up too stupid to make serious decisions about whether people receive life or death sentences.
The example that triggered me to make this post was hearing on a podcast about the cas... | 1,579,502,624 | livid4 | ff2gsl6 | ff2eqga | 16 | 5 |
CMV: When there isn't a lane specifically meant for cyclists, they should ride on the sidewalk and not the street.
I think bicycle lanes on streets are the way to go. That said, my state just doesn't have the infrastructure put in place yet. Cyclists riding in the street are forced to hold up traffic causing an undue ... | I think you are just going to replace one danger (car/bicycle interactions) with another (bicyclist/pedestrian interaction). The main purpose of a sidewalk is to allow a pedestrian access to travel, which is why we have jaywalking laws, so they stay off the road intended for vehicle travel. The vast majority of people ... | Most of what you are advocating relies on the fact that many cyclists behave poorly on the road. What's to say they won't also behave poorly on the sidewalks?
>If a cyclist hits a pedestrian both will walk away.
This is highly debatable. Cyclists can ride extremely fast, and a collision with a pedestrian - especially... | 698wq6 | CMV: When there isn't a lane specifically meant for cyclists, they should ride on the sidewalk and not the street. | I think bicycle lanes on streets are the way to go. That said, my state just doesn't have the infrastructure put in place yet. Cyclists riding in the street are forced to hold up traffic causing an undue burden on drivers.
* Cyclists can't ride as fast as cars. They slow traffic and create opportunity for danger when... | 1,493,918,457 | RRuruurrr | dh4obhy | dh4o5xm | 12 | 2 |
CMV: The War on Plastic is a Mistake
In the last decade or so plastic (especially in single-use products) has become the subject of a moral panic that is unjustified and foolish. Think for example of the successful campaigns to replace plastic straws with paper ones, or to ban or tax plastic bags and fastfood packagin... | > If you live in a first world country and put your plastic straw in a garbage bin after using it, then you can be pretty certain it will go to a landfill or incinerator and not end up washed into a river
I lived next to an incinerator for years. Guess what? The road was littered with trash that fell/blew out of tras... | TL:DR The war on plastic isn't a mistake, It is just misguided. Western countries are blamed for majority of trash issues, therefore financial resources are wasted on "solutions" such as paper straws. Instead, the solutions should be focused on the 3rd world, and Asian countries that are dumping megatons of trash into ... | 17mtjoz | CMV: The War on Plastic is a Mistake | In the last decade or so plastic (especially in single-use products) has become the subject of a moral panic that is unjustified and foolish. Think for example of the successful campaigns to replace plastic straws with paper ones, or to ban or tax plastic bags and fastfood packaging.
Of course the production, use, an... | 1,699,013,207 | phileconomicus | k7o1idl | k7ng5iu | 5 | 2 |
CMV: If you're upset or uncomfortable by someone performing an otherwise harmless action, you're the asshole
For clarification: my mom and I were having a discussion about microaggressions and racism a little bit ago. I couldn't recount everything we discussed, but one topic we discussed at length was this:
My mom as... | In an AITA format: No Assholes Here.
Your mum is allowed to feel how she feels, even if you may not feel her reasoning makes it warranted, or if she doesn't have a reason at all, that doesn't just stop the feelings from occurring, we can control how we react to feelings but we don't just get to choose how we feel.
Th... | I’d argue that almost any normal person realizes that doing that would make a stranger nervous and on edge. That alone makes what they’re doing immoral. There’s enough room for both people to be able to stretch out. Unless the second person to sit down has some kind of plan that involves being close to the person that... | er812a | CMV: If you're upset or uncomfortable by someone performing an otherwise harmless action, you're the asshole | For clarification: my mom and I were having a discussion about microaggressions and racism a little bit ago. I couldn't recount everything we discussed, but one topic we discussed at length was this:
My mom asserted that if a man sat next to her on an otherwise empty train, it would make her uncomfortable, and she wou... | 1,579,494,538 | triforc3-mast3r | ff2a2sp | ff291ei | 2 | 1 |
CMV: deportation protection for DACA parents undermines rationale for DACA
I had not realized this, but the proposed bill for extending DACA protection includes deportation protection for parents of DACA recipients. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/1/16/16879632/daca-bill-durbin-graham
Isn't this bad fait... | About 85% or more of DACA recipients are adults brought here as children, so that eliminates the whole "kids and parents" idea for them. [Very few](http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/09/25/key-facts-about-unauthorized-immigrants-enrolled-in-daca/) are under 16.
Also, you're basically trying to stretch us being ... | Do you think we should do this with other crimes as well? Is it wrong to put a man in prison for murder because his children will then grow up without a dad? | 7syxau | CMV: deportation protection for DACA parents undermines rationale for DACA | I had not realized this, but the proposed bill for extending DACA protection includes deportation protection for parents of DACA recipients. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/1/16/16879632/daca-bill-durbin-graham
Isn't this bad faith on the part of DACA supporters? One of the strongest arguments in favor o... | 1,516,910,988 | ricksc-137 | dt8j7xm | dt8j2xa | 4 | -1 |
CMV: Advanced mathematics (discrete maths, etc) seems pointless outside of society. It's an advanced game with a set of rules that we invented and is no way a discovery.
Lately I’ve been stressing over the fact that I chose the “wrong” major for my upcoming undergraduate course at university. Due to my interests in co... | Advances in mathematics very often become advances in physics. Calculus is the easiest example, rigorous mathematical definitions in calculus gave rise to physics, however this one is too obvious, that is, the people developing calculus were well aware (some of) the practical applications of understanding the relations... | That sort of math is incredibly useful to be productive in computer science. Take, for example, google maps. When you ask for directions from point A to point B, it needs to evaluate what the fastest routes are from among a *huge* number of possibilities, and it needs to do that very quickly. If we represent a reasonab... | 698nl0 | CMV: Advanced mathematics (discrete maths, etc) seems pointless outside of society. It's an advanced game with a set of rules that we invented and is no way a discovery. | Lately I’ve been stressing over the fact that I chose the “wrong” major for my upcoming undergraduate course at university. Due to my interests in computers, naturally I chose Computer Science as my major for university. Though I’ve stumbled to the point where I feel like I chose a major with courses (mostly maths) tha... | 1,493,916,105 | ohheyworld | dh4n3k7 | dh4m08u | 16 | 1 |
CMV:Elected officials such as the President, Senators and members of Congress should be required to take a mental health evaluation and/or an IQ test from a neutral 3rd party (such as MENSA) to determine whether a person is fit to hold public office.
My view is that people who hold public office to control the daily l... | IQ tests have an implicit bias against certain minorities and favour others so having a test would be in part racist.
No party is neutral and everyone has agendas. Any test created would involve the creator's personal biases be they racial, political, economic or other. And I don't believe I is possible to create a t... | Any requirement you place on the president will quicky be politicised if possible. And with something like this how can it not be. An IQ test is not some emperical way to quantify true intelegence. It's actually a bit controversial in general, and that's before you put politics behind it. Not to mention what is would y... | 7syxyd | CMV:Elected officials such as the President, Senators and members of Congress should be required to take a mental health evaluation and/or an IQ test from a neutral 3rd party (such as MENSA) to determine whether a person is fit to hold public office. | My view is that people who hold public office to control the daily lives of citizens should also be held responsible for reassuring the public that they are fit do do so. Being a politician can be stressful work, and being a public servant leaves a person with as much privacy as a Hollywood celebrity. I believe that a ... | 1,516,911,139 | V3N3N0 | dt8jx6x | dt8j95b | 3 | 1 |
Cmv: the creation of Israel was a mistake andshould be peacefully and safely be dismantled
I am an antizionist and i belive that Israel should be peacefully and safely dismantled. And if this haplens the jewish popultaion should of course be protected against the antisemitism of Israels neighbours. But heres why im an... | whoa boy this one’s gonna be dicey.
1. Yeah, sort of. Israel is an ethnostate, but it’s only unique because it *says* it’s an ethnostate. Jews make up about 75% of Israel’s population. If you’re distinguishing between Jews and not Jews, it’s less Jewish than Norway is Norwegian (81%) or Italy (95% Italian) or KSA (90... | > Israel is an ethnostate. I am fundementally opposed to ethnostates and Israel, by "being a land for the jews", would always be destined to be an ethnostate. Ethnostates either result from or are the breeding grounds for fascism. Meaning that this whole scenario with Palestine was inevitable.
So you want to dismantle... | 17nia0i | Cmv: the creation of Israel was a mistake andshould be peacefully and safely be dismantled | I am an antizionist and i belive that Israel should be peacefully and safely dismantled. And if this haplens the jewish popultaion should of course be protected against the antisemitism of Israels neighbours. But heres why im an antizionist:
1. Israel is an ethnostate. I am fundementally opposed to ethnostates and Isr... | 1,699,091,447 | holiestMaria | k7rqxng | k7rql13 | 69 | 33 |
CMV: If you're upset or uncomfortable by someone performing an otherwise harmless action, you're the asshole
For clarification: my mom and I were having a discussion about microaggressions and racism a little bit ago. I couldn't recount everything we discussed, but one topic we discussed at length was this:
My mom as... | In the specific example you provided, I think it's a fairly commonly accepted that you don't try to invade another person's personal space if at all possible. If you were minding your daily business and somebody stood that close to you, I imagine you would find that uncomfortable as well.
More importantly though, I'm... | Judging an action as harmless isn't black or white, though. You apparently see no red flags in a man who sits down right next to a woman traveling alone despite there being plenty of other seats; lots of other people (your mom and I included) would see that as a sign of possible danger.
It is somewhat divergent from s... | er812a | CMV: If you're upset or uncomfortable by someone performing an otherwise harmless action, you're the asshole | For clarification: my mom and I were having a discussion about microaggressions and racism a little bit ago. I couldn't recount everything we discussed, but one topic we discussed at length was this:
My mom asserted that if a man sat next to her on an otherwise empty train, it would make her uncomfortable, and she wou... | 1,579,494,538 | triforc3-mast3r | ff26tod | ff26a0c | 14 | 6 |
CMV: Simply being a pedophile (non-offending) should not be a social crime and the fact that it is produces a world that is less safe for children.
This CMV uses the *actual* definition of both pedophile and pedophilia, not the social definition. Meaning we are referring to people who experience an at least primary if... | One part that you’re argument doesn’t contend with is that for someone being a pedophile to be a social crime I need to know that they’re a pedophile.
If you are a non offending pedophile, fully understand you’re feelings are wrong and what society thinks about you there is nothing positive that can happen from telli... | Guess what? Don't feed the attraction. Find alternative forms of stress relief and pleasure. Society doesn't need to know you're a pedophile. If you can't move on with your life without constantly feeding your compulsion towards any kind of sexual outlet then you've automatically failed as a human being. There are peop... | 12frcr7 | CMV: Simply being a pedophile (non-offending) should not be a social crime and the fact that it is produces a world that is less safe for children. | This CMV uses the *actual* definition of both pedophile and pedophilia, not the social definition. Meaning we are referring to people who experience an at least primary if not exclusive attraction towards **prepubescent** people.
Experiencing at least some amount of attraction towards people who are at least pubescent... | 1,680,972,445 | lardingg8 | jfgzxhe | jfgwm3q | 23 | -3 |
CMV: Hot sauce scales need to be re-evaluated!
Its Friday, Lets have some fun
*Hot sauce enthusiasts and chili pepper aficionados around the world can attest to the fact that the current measurement system for hot sauces' heat levels is in dire need of an overhaul. Here are some compelling reasons why a new, more pre... | I don't know what rating system you are using. Industry standard is Scoville Scale that solves all those issues. | Eh, if a sauce didn't go past 11/10, was it *truly* hot? Was it, OP? | 17mp4dv | CMV: Hot sauce scales need to be re-evaluated! | Its Friday, Lets have some fun
*Hot sauce enthusiasts and chili pepper aficionados around the world can attest to the fact that the current measurement system for hot sauces' heat levels is in dire need of an overhaul. Here are some compelling reasons why a new, more precise measurement of heat is essential*:
1. **Mi... | 1,698,994,521 | ButteredKernals | k7mf27i | k7me86j | 147 | 1 |
CMV: Transgenderism contradicts itself
I'm going to try to ask this in the most respectful way possible, as my intention is absolutely not to insult or invalidate anyone.
Over the past few years, as gender has become more and more of a fluid concept, many people (including myself) question the role or necessity of ge... | > Essentially the way that I see it, transgenderism both relies on there being such a thing as gender, but also simultaneously undermines it in a way, because it removes any remote objectivity from the concept of gender.
Transgenderism is the mismatch between someone's physical sex and their "internal map" of what th... | > I guess I'm basically looking for some definition of being a man/woman that is not either transphobic or sexist.
For me, a woman is someone who is comfortable with having a female body and being seen as one. The problem is that many women are uncomfortable about quite a few aspects of their body. I don't mean that ... | l1nhmf | CMV: Transgenderism contradicts itself | I'm going to try to ask this in the most respectful way possible, as my intention is absolutely not to insult or invalidate anyone.
Over the past few years, as gender has become more and more of a fluid concept, many people (including myself) question the role or necessity of gender altogether. We now understand that ... | 1,611,191,523 | stelllz | gk1p0se | gk0zgoe | 3 | 2 |
CMV: Free awards and the large amount of cheap reaction awards has devalued the meaning of Reddit awards
With the new system of people able to claim free awards, and the large array of cheaper reaction awards, I now often see posts with dozens and hundreds of awards, which has desensitised me to the specialness of awa... | I view it a few ways (in order of my own ranking)
1. It makes people feel better to send and receive awards, and ultimately that's a good thing. We need more positivity in the world, superficial as it may seem.
2. There's no way to "cancel" an award. By this I mean you can't negate it with an anti-award like is the c... | Someone had this exact CMV a week ago. That person was upset about the same exact thing, about how people just give out awards to stupid posts, or how the free 24 hour awards devalue the award system.
There really isn't any value in the awards at all. I've gotten some platinum and gold for my streams, and it felt pre... | iqlysz | CMV: Free awards and the large amount of cheap reaction awards has devalued the meaning of Reddit awards | With the new system of people able to claim free awards, and the large array of cheaper reaction awards, I now often see posts with dozens and hundreds of awards, which has desensitised me to the specialness of awards.
They used to be a rare or special thing to acknowledge something special or show gratitude, but now ... | 1,599,809,155 | elch3w | g4tznv5 | g4ttscc | 10 | 5 |
CMV: Trump will probably not get re-elected in 2020
I know it's bad to get too complacent in thinking that the results of an election are inevitable, but I can't help but feel that Trump's re-election chances are very unlikely (though not impossible, see below) for the following reasons
1) Hillary isn't running. Non... | I'll preface this by saying I really, really, *really* hope Trump does not get re-elected, and I think the momentum of the blue wave is going to put up a formidable fight. But the realist in me has to recognize what led to his victory in 2016; and extrapolating from that, it would be dangerous to assume he's an underdo... | 1) No one thought Trump would win the first time. So he’s certainly able to win. And I still think that he’s more likely to win than last time merely by the fact that he can when no one thinks he can.
2) Clinton had a super majority support of the Democratic Party. No one currently has that, despite the fact that left... | d09tgp | CMV: Trump will probably not get re-elected in 2020 | I know it's bad to get too complacent in thinking that the results of an election are inevitable, but I can't help but feel that Trump's re-election chances are very unlikely (though not impossible, see below) for the following reasons
1) Hillary isn't running. None of the candidates have as much baggage as Hillary d... | 1,567,732,835 | rick-swordfire | ez87rxc | ez84rrl | 27 | 9 |
CMV: Any ethic group (including whites) can experience racism, it is just that the defenition of racism has changed to only include "structural" racism.
Hello,
My place of work has recently been running workshops on "anti-racism". I myself have been trying to engage with it as much as I can to try and better myself. ... | tl;dr: Of course white people can be victims of racial prejudice. We just distinguish between racial prejudice and "racism," because racism refers to a specific phenomenon that is related to but distinct from prejudice generally. Colloquially, racism is used synonymously with racial prejudice, which in day to day conve... | >I always thought and was taught growing up that racism is where you disciminate based off of the colour of someones skin.
Sometimes - often, actually - the things that we are taught when we are young are simplified so that we'll understand them or get the most immediate utility-value out of them. Then, as we get olde... | 17nqvow | CMV: Any ethic group (including whites) can experience racism, it is just that the defenition of racism has changed to only include "structural" racism. | Hello,
My place of work has recently been running workshops on "anti-racism". I myself have been trying to engage with it as much as I can to try and better myself.
One aspect that I find difficult is the idea that racism has to have a power inbalance. In my own country (the UK) a white person cannot experience raci... | 1,699,119,733 | BrightonTeacher | k7tj7gm | k7tdkuh | 40 | 20 |
CMV: Leftists/LGBTQ+ people who support Palestine doesn't make sense.
I'll start by saying I'm from SEA, so my perspective may be incomplete and I may have missing information, but I'll start with what information I think I know:
My understanding is Israel was formed after WW2 to give surviving Jews their own nation.... | So the issue is Israel's response is too much? Like if Israel did less people would be more understanding of their counter attack? Has Israel already killed more civilians then Israeli people died in the attack?
If so that would make sense actually. Please elaborate for me. | It's the Underdog Effect.
Israel are big and Gaza is small, thus Israel is the oppressor and Gaza is the opressee.
So they want to side with Hamas to take down Israel who they feel is on stolen land. Which of course it's not stolen at all. And paradoxically they do not feel the same way about other countries like t... | 17now0j | CMV: Leftists/LGBTQ+ people who support Palestine doesn't make sense. | I'll start by saying I'm from SEA, so my perspective may be incomplete and I may have missing information, but I'll start with what information I think I know:
My understanding is Israel was formed after WW2 to give surviving Jews their own nation. This displaced the Palestinian people and while some do integrate into... | 1,699,114,064 | fexterslab | k7t0bvq | k7t02qr | 3 | 1 |
CMV: The American show "glee" (whilst entertaining) failed to get across many messages that it attempted to use.
My main focus will be on an episode where it had sexual abuse of two of the characters, Ryder and Kitty. It was trying to get across that sexual abuse of males does exist and deserves as much attention and ... | I think Glee in general makes a lot more sense if you view it through the lens of children’s entertainment, like Hannah Montana but incredibly expensive. It’s aimed primarily at preteens.
For the episode you’re talking about, Ryder wasn’t “undermined” at all. I’m a bit confused by what you would’ve liked to happen in... | I never watched Glee, but sounds like they were trying to show the reality of society in the episode; sexual abuse of males is also an issue. It’s much easier to be objective and rational as a third-party. If the teacher reprimanded them, and there was no resolution I might be more inclined to think that Ryder was wron... | iqcffh | CMV: The American show "glee" (whilst entertaining) failed to get across many messages that it attempted to use. | My main focus will be on an episode where it had sexual abuse of two of the characters, Ryder and Kitty. It was trying to get across that sexual abuse of males does exist and deserves as much attention and sympathy as sexual abuse of males.
In this episode the group are in a circle and Ryder discloses that when he was ... | 1,599,772,293 | wigglypuff12 | g4rnh01 | g4rjweb | 3 | 1 |
CMV: The free will to do evil is not desirable.
In our reality, it is not possible to telekinetically kill someone. We don't have the free will to do that. I think that's a good thing. If I follow this logic, then a reality like ours but with the absence of the free will to do evil seems like a better reality than our... | The free will to do evil may just be a corollary to having the free will to do other things.
Free will, as it is defined by libertarians, entails the categorical ability to do otherwise. According to them, it's necessary to do *anything* morally significant. That means no action can be morally good or praiseworthy unl... | On the surface I agree with you, a world without evil would by definition, be better. And a world where people lack the fundamental capacity to do evil is a world with less evil.
I would be more than satisfied with a world where evil was purely fictional.
The complication, and where I disagree is that I think this is... | gajmh4 | CMV: The free will to do evil is not desirable. | In our reality, it is not possible to telekinetically kill someone. We don't have the free will to do that. I think that's a good thing. If I follow this logic, then a reality like ours but with the absence of the free will to do evil seems like a better reality than ours or to put more generally the free will to do ev... | 1,588,200,438 | DeleteriousEuphuism | fp02ntm | fp01rcm | 3 | 2 |
CMV: People who drink coffee out of Keurig pods (or other pods) don't really like coffee.
I was on a backpacking trip through central America recently and discovered than I really love coffee. I tried coffee from so many different coffee farms and it was the best I have ever had. After a month and a half when I came b... | I like coffee that is good enough. I've seen what it takes to make a "good" cup of coffee and I am not about that. I get my Dunkin Donuts K cup and I am perfectly happy with the flavor. It is 80% of the flavor of me driving 5 minutes to the actual dunks. | Keurig pods aren't a monolith. I've had Keurig coffee ranging from solid to mediocre to awful, depending on the variety - same as with drip coffee or whatever.
I can't say I've ever had *fantastic* coffee from a Keurig, but good enough to enjoy as coffee, yes. | 17n86py | CMV: People who drink coffee out of Keurig pods (or other pods) don't really like coffee. | I was on a backpacking trip through central America recently and discovered than I really love coffee. I tried coffee from so many different coffee farms and it was the best I have ever had. After a month and a half when I came back to US, we made a stop at my mother in law. She uses Keurig pods. Having no other option... | 1,699,054,014 | Muzhaqi16 | k7q4gk9 | k7q35mc | 54 | 10 |
CMV: Historically, Social Justice Movements are Always Successful
Democracy, slavery, unions, minimum wage, sufferage, civil rights, gay marriage, marijuana, etc.: my impression is that all social justice movements are ultimately successful. In the beginning, the majority of people are against them, but those people e... | Unsuccessful social justice movement: the student protests in China in 1989.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiananmen_Square_protests_of_1989
They failed, and it culminated in a massacre in the streets of Beijing. They are barred from being openly discussed in China. The government officials who supported the stude... | How do you define a "social justice movement"? What characteristics make something qualify? This will make it much easier to find the examples you're asking for. | 698uqp | CMV: Historically, Social Justice Movements are Always Successful | Democracy, slavery, unions, minimum wage, sufferage, civil rights, gay marriage, marijuana, etc.: my impression is that all social justice movements are ultimately successful. In the beginning, the majority of people are against them, but those people end up on the wrong side of history. From this I infer that current ... | 1,493,917,955 | HotterRod | dh4no33 | dh4nn5f | 29 | 3 |
CMV: The US electoral college is ridiculous.
Ever since I learned about it I have had a chip on my shoulder concerning the USA’s electoral college. A short explanation is that individual votes are confined within their state to choose an elector(s) who votes on the state population’s behalf according to the popular vo... | I don't personally hold this view, but I held a poll about this once. Defenders of the electoral college cited it as a way to avoid a 'tyranny of the majority' situation. That is, they don't want a geographically constricted population like democrats to decide things for the whole country. | Because you have to look at it in a broader picture. He won the electoral college because the people in the electoral college voted the way the state wanted. Take Delaware for example. Democrats only won several districts. Which was pretty much Wilmington. The rest of the state voted republican but republicans still lo... | 7symu9 | CMV: The US electoral college is ridiculous. | Ever since I learned about it I have had a chip on my shoulder concerning the USA’s electoral college. A short explanation is that individual votes are confined within their state to choose an elector(s) who votes on the state population’s behalf according to the popular vote within that state, with the exceptions of M... | 1,516,908,707 | Draconian_Overlord | dt8gags | dt8fz87 | 14 | 1 |
CMV: The US electoral college is ridiculous.
Ever since I learned about it I have had a chip on my shoulder concerning the USA’s electoral college. A short explanation is that individual votes are confined within their state to choose an elector(s) who votes on the state population’s behalf according to the popular vo... | You're conflating an electoral college with the winner-take-all system most states use.
There are arguments against both of these systems independently, but the arguments you've expressed really don't touch on the EC at all.
>In California, where I live, the state always votes blue and has done for decades, despite ... | >. First, one of the highest principles of America is “For the people, by the people” I know the slogan is not literal in all situations and representatives are important, but voting is something that is down to the citizen and the citizen alone.
Except that is clearly untrue. If it was we wouldn't be electing represe... | 7symu9 | CMV: The US electoral college is ridiculous. | Ever since I learned about it I have had a chip on my shoulder concerning the USA’s electoral college. A short explanation is that individual votes are confined within their state to choose an elector(s) who votes on the state population’s behalf according to the popular vote within that state, with the exceptions of M... | 1,516,908,707 | Draconian_Overlord | dt8h8ag | dt8gtkl | 7 | 1 |
CMV:Elected officials such as the President, Senators and members of Congress should be required to take a mental health evaluation and/or an IQ test from a neutral 3rd party (such as MENSA) to determine whether a person is fit to hold public office.
My view is that people who hold public office to control the daily l... | 1) On the one-hand, Medical Science provides us with several tools we could possibly use to fulfill your request.
2) On the other hand, History tells us that when we require tests in order to vote, it always ends up discriminating against minority groups (see the literacy tests of the Jim Crow era).
If there were a... | Shouldn't *the citizens* decide whether they see him/her fit to hold office? If the majority of the population wants to elect someone who has a low IQ, or has mental health issues, isn't that the right of the governed in a democracy? | 7syxyd | CMV:Elected officials such as the President, Senators and members of Congress should be required to take a mental health evaluation and/or an IQ test from a neutral 3rd party (such as MENSA) to determine whether a person is fit to hold public office. | My view is that people who hold public office to control the daily lives of citizens should also be held responsible for reassuring the public that they are fit do do so. Being a politician can be stressful work, and being a public servant leaves a person with as much privacy as a Hollywood celebrity. I believe that a ... | 1,516,911,139 | V3N3N0 | dt8il6w | dt8ibrd | 14 | 7 |
CMV: The US electoral college is ridiculous.
Ever since I learned about it I have had a chip on my shoulder concerning the USA’s electoral college. A short explanation is that individual votes are confined within their state to choose an elector(s) who votes on the state population’s behalf according to the popular vo... | A big part of it is to get geographically distinct minority populations more represented by the presidency. If we had a simple majority rule more urbanized states would dominant the elections and be the only interests represented by presidents. The electoral college is kind of a artificial equalizer that forces prospec... | Because you have to look at it in a broader picture. He won the electoral college because the people in the electoral college voted the way the state wanted. Take Delaware for example. Democrats only won several districts. Which was pretty much Wilmington. The rest of the state voted republican but republicans still lo... | 7symu9 | CMV: The US electoral college is ridiculous. | Ever since I learned about it I have had a chip on my shoulder concerning the USA’s electoral college. A short explanation is that individual votes are confined within their state to choose an elector(s) who votes on the state population’s behalf according to the popular vote within that state, with the exceptions of M... | 1,516,908,707 | Draconian_Overlord | dt8gbpk | dt8fz87 | 2 | 1 |
CMV:Capitalism is better than any other economic system
I have been on reddit for like a year and everywhere i go , people are shouting Capitalism sucks , i also know most of you dont support communism or socialism but some of these people need to get their damn facts straight
Reddit is become increasingly hardcore l... | Just a proposal: if we view capitalism VS communism as a spectrum with one at each end and socialism in the middle, as a hybrid of the two. Then we are currently living in a socialist structure.
Pure capitalism is a brutal system that cannot sustain itself, we can look at the 19th century for examples of that. While c... | Capitalism is fine until the economy collapses, then you need to introduce certain aspects of socialism. Take what’s happening now. With so many people forced out of work, they rely on the government to give them money. We can even look back at the original US welfare system with FDR in the 1930s, which started after t... | l0qzax | CMV:Capitalism is better than any other economic system | I have been on reddit for like a year and everywhere i go , people are shouting Capitalism sucks , i also know most of you dont support communism or socialism but some of these people need to get their damn facts straight
Reddit is become increasingly hardcore left with subs like Latestagecapitalism going around ,and ... | 1,611,083,994 | sankithegod | gjvd3bn | gjv43e9 | 0 | -1 |
CMV: Morality is subjective
I noticed that surprisingly, that my view point is pretty unpopular, so I am trying to understand. my view is that morality is subjective. Morality is a set of principles that dictate right from wrong. That is fine and all, and some have said that morality is also something that bases on 'd... | Objective morality doesn't have to mean that the same action no matter the context is moral or immoral; it could also mean that there's an objectively best action to take in a situation. So suppose we take minimizing suffering and maximizing happiness (those usually have to be paired to avoid dystopian nightmare scenar... | "My point is, is there a case where, whatever circumstance, the before the 'immoral deed' will be much happier than the 'after immoral deed'."
Rape? Is there any situation where you feel that true rape can result in overall good? Sorry to bring up such a disgusting topic but it is the first thing that comes to mind as... | 6955br | CMV: Morality is subjective | I noticed that surprisingly, that my view point is pretty unpopular, so I am trying to understand. my view is that morality is subjective. Morality is a set of principles that dictate right from wrong. That is fine and all, and some have said that morality is also something that bases on 'do no harm/suffering/pain etc'... | 1,493,867,569 | silveryfeather208 | dh3xsjh | dh3w5dm | 5 | 4 |
CMV: Some forms of feminism won't help in achieving gender equality
I'm writing this as a woman and someone who has seen lots of post about feminism. For the record, I do want gender equality. I believe that women should be treated with respect and they should be treated equally as men. The problem I have with some fe... | First off, I'm so sorry if I have caused any offense with my post. Secondly, what I meant by my post was not to downplay the struggles of women at the hands of men who abused them bc I do believe that they should be accounted for their actions. No gender should be abused or be given unfair treatment. What I do mean is ... | Oh my.
You must be new to Reddit - that’s okay! A funny thing about this site is that sometimes (not always, but certainly often enough) people post comments pretending to be flabbergasted by the idea of feminism only for a brief comment history search to show they did it intentionally. In my decade+ on this site, i... | ir7rpn | CMV: Some forms of feminism won't help in achieving gender equality | I'm writing this as a woman and someone who has seen lots of post about feminism. For the record, I do want gender equality. I believe that women should be treated with respect and they should be treated equally as men. The problem I have with some feminists is that they want respect and be empowering but then they sta... | 1,599,893,313 | Yinry | g4x3nb2 | g4x1d68 | 10 | 5 |
CMV: Criminals should be rehabilitated, not punished.
I do not believe in retribution (punishing someone because "they deserve it"). I instead believe that criminals should be rehabilitated, an actual, honest effort made into making them a better person, as this is more likely to prevent crimes and especially repeat o... | While I am for prison reforms, I am not for total elimination of prison sentences in favor of rehabilitation that ends when the person is deemed safe to return to society.
As much as many people today will disagree, I firmly believe justice needs to involve punishment, because without a certain degree of suffering, mo... | You bring up retribution, rehabilitation, and deterrence, but there are other benefits to punitive actions besides those. Most criminologists, prosecutors, and lawmakers recognize several other societal benefits to jail time.
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There's also benefit to isolation/incapcitation, because removing a troubled or pro... | d0as3u | CMV: Criminals should be rehabilitated, not punished. | I do not believe in retribution (punishing someone because "they deserve it"). I instead believe that criminals should be rehabilitated, an actual, honest effort made into making them a better person, as this is more likely to prevent crimes and especially repeat offenses (this obviously won't help prevent crimes commi... | 1,567,737,941 | Nihilikara | ez8df3w | ez8d8y7 | 835 | 15 |
CMV: The Democrats don't know how to address regulatory reform and this hurts their appeal
I'm a business guy.
I am a Democrat.
But the GOP is closer to right about regulatory reform than the Democrats are.
The economy is harmed by bad regulation. Of course, all regulation isn't bad, but prescriptive regulation rat... | So your point is that if the democratic party were to adopt a regulatory reform framework that was pro-small business owner, the average democratic voter would abandon the party?
I don't know that I buy that argument. But maybe !delta for the idea as a thing to consider. | A pro-business Democrat party could never work. Much of their core constituency hates free enterprise or views it as, at best, a necessary evil. If the Democrats tried to embrace regulatory reform favoring small business they might gain more support from business people and investors, but they would lose the "Fight f... | er19mh | CMV: The Democrats don't know how to address regulatory reform and this hurts their appeal | I'm a business guy.
I am a Democrat.
But the GOP is closer to right about regulatory reform than the Democrats are.
The economy is harmed by bad regulation. Of course, all regulation isn't bad, but prescriptive regulation rather than descriptive regulation generally is. That is, instead of specifying desired outcome... | 1,579,463,629 | kingpatzer | ff2biqr | ff19jn2 | 1 | -5 |
CMV: Women’s grand slam tennis should be best of 5 sets
Currently in grand slam tennis events, the men’s game is best out of five sets and the women’s game is best out of three. I think the women’s game should be changed:
1) Women should play the sport the same way that men do. Reducing the game for women is discrimi... | Women have a higher injury rate in most sports including tennis. At Wimbledon they have 30% more injuries per set even with shorter matches. If the women played more sets, I imagine the rate go even more which would be bad for the women and the sport.
"Results: The overall rate of presentation of injury for all play... | The other sports you have mentioned are team sports while tennis is a one on one sport so it means that the player is under more stress for the duration of play compared to team sports where individual players get a chance to catch relax during certain intervals.
Also, if you are looking for equality, why not reduce ... | cz47bk | CMV: Women’s grand slam tennis should be best of 5 sets | Currently in grand slam tennis events, the men’s game is best out of five sets and the women’s game is best out of three. I think the women’s game should be changed:
1) Women should play the sport the same way that men do. Reducing the game for women is discriminatory against women.
2) Fans are watching a shorter ve... | 1,567,513,697 | Schnitzel8 | eyzh3wg | eyvxlqs | 1 | -1 |
CMV: We should place criminal LEO in a separate, federal prison apart from non-LEO criminals
Hello and good morning,
**MY VIEW**: I believe firmly that we should provide a separate correctional facility that only houses criminals from a Law Enforcement [Officer] (LEO) professional back ground and I believe that by do... | There is no moral justification to expend state resources protecting criminal former state agents from the predicable consequences of their malfeasance.
In fact we should imprison more LEOs, and provide them less protection while in jail.
I would actually favor having any form of police malfeasance classified as a ca... | Do other countries seem to need this? Wouldn't getting our incarceration rate down to the levels seen in other civilized nations allow us to get the prison violence rate down dramatically? At which point LEOs would have far less to fear. | d02ov6 | CMV: We should place criminal LEO in a separate, federal prison apart from non-LEO criminals | Hello and good morning,
**MY VIEW**: I believe firmly that we should provide a separate correctional facility that only houses criminals from a Law Enforcement [Officer] (LEO) professional back ground and I believe that by doing so, we can raise the quality of life for incarcerated Americans and non-incarcerated Ameri... | 1,567,699,158 | JoeDice | ez5sbnf | ez5o0ne | 3 | 2 |
CMV: Utilizing more plastic can combat climate change
I want to preface by emphasizing that my viewpoint is focused exclusively on the impact of plastic on climate change, excluding other environmental concerns.
Here's my rationale - Plastic is derived from petroleum and biological sources. Converting petroleum into ... | “These are comparable to those incurred when oil is used as fuel”
“overall, plastic use seems to result in a net decrease in CO2 emissions”
I don’t understand this reasoning.
Turning Oil or gas into raw plastic resin is a lengthy and energy intensive process. Then it takes more energy to turn it into something and di... | You seem to think the options are
A) burning the oil
B) turning it into plastic
In which case yes, plastic is the better option (ignoring the waste problems)
But what about C) leaving it be? | 17ndps3 | CMV: Utilizing more plastic can combat climate change | I want to preface by emphasizing that my viewpoint is focused exclusively on the impact of plastic on climate change, excluding other environmental concerns.
Here's my rationale - Plastic is derived from petroleum and biological sources. Converting petroleum into plastic changes it into a durable form that persists fo... | 1,699,071,490 | -Sliced- | k7rh749 | k7raari | 7 | 6 |
CMV: In-depth classes in high school for "core courses" (math, english, science, etc) should be optional and replaced with mandatory classes on political systems, home economics (mortgages, tax, jobs, benefits, healthcare, etc).
In elementary and middle school, you're taught the basics of the core courses, and those a... | The point of school is to learn how to learn. You aren't learning calculus, you are learning problem solving. You aren't learning American history, you are learning how to write essays. You aren't learning literature, you are learning critical thinking. With those skills, you can learn how to do anything. The stuff you... | Try looking at school from a different perspective. High school isn't intended to teach you things that will be useful in life. It's intended to expose you to information and topics that you are unlikely to encounter in the "real world." This isn't necessarily for your benefit, or even for the benefit of most studen... | 6987iy | CMV: In-depth classes in high school for "core courses" (math, english, science, etc) should be optional and replaced with mandatory classes on political systems, home economics (mortgages, tax, jobs, benefits, healthcare, etc). | In elementary and middle school, you're taught the basics of the core courses, and those are often the skills we'll need in those courses for the average life. Basic maths, grammar, vocabulary, basic computer skills, etc. In high school, you're required to take more in-depth courses like trigonometry, calculus, Engli... | 1,493,911,893 | The3Broomsticks | dh4jitm | dh4icgl | 42 | 6 |
CMV: Jordan Peterson is over-reacting to the recent Canadian "proper pronouns" law by likening it to totalitarianism, and therefore actually weakening his position.
*This is a very specific post and I'll only summarize it so for those that might not be versed in the details, a hop through Google on this issue might be... | For whatever it's worth, I'm not a fan of Dr. Peterson in general (/r/AskPhilosophy has a nice [post](https://np.reddit.com/r/askphilosophy/comments/6n6rhg/why_are_jordan_petersons_philosophical_opinions/) about the problems with his general philosophy) but I agree with him about this. I'll try to address each of your ... | I think Jordan Peterson is a paranoid nutcase - he called frozen a feminist propaganda piece - but recently there was some case where a university got into trouble because a professor tried to stop a ta from discussing a Peterson video or something. We should be willing to critically analyze all viewpoints, even if we ... | 7sycb4 | CMV: Jordan Peterson is over-reacting to the recent Canadian "proper pronouns" law by likening it to totalitarianism, and therefore actually weakening his position. | *This is a very specific post and I'll only summarize it so for those that might not be versed in the details, a hop through Google on this issue might be in order :)
Short version:
Jordan Peterson was (up until recently, when he was granted viral fame for his views) an unknown college professor in Canada whose life'... | 1,516,906,379 | Chazzyphant | dt8empi | dt8dal0 | 40 | -3 |
CMV: There are 3 (at most 4) continents
In school I was taught there are 7 continents: N. America, S. America, Europe, Asia, Africa, Australasia, Antarctica
Starting with the least controversial, Europe and Asia are one continent. There is no clear enough cultural, geographic or other barrier separating the two.
Ne... | I'm 100% on board with you on Eurasia. It's a single tectonic plate and there's no clear separation.
>There is no clear enough cultural, geographic or other barrier separating the two.
Why then are the Americas separate? There's much more of a cultural separation between, say, China and the UK than between the UK an... | I'm on board with Eurasia. Always seemed weird to me; pretty arbitrary line, a giant single land mass. Fine. I'm in.
The two parts I have trouble with are:
1. Africa. I agree there's an argument possible about where you draw the line but this is [absolutely a distinct land mass](https://res.cloudinary.com/fen-learni... | iqsk34 | CMV: There are 3 (at most 4) continents | In school I was taught there are 7 continents: N. America, S. America, Europe, Asia, Africa, Australasia, Antarctica
Starting with the least controversial, Europe and Asia are one continent. There is no clear enough cultural, geographic or other barrier separating the two.
Next least controversial, the Americas. For... | 1,599,837,766 | EdominoH | g4u1n2m | g4u0r7c | 5 | 3 |
CMV: It's 2020, so there's no excuse anymore for popular apps to not be available on both iOS AND android phones.
I believe that if an app developer has an app on the App Store, they should also work towards releasing that app on the google play store as well. Obviously if there's a specific reason it's only meant for... | > I felt cheated
Then the solution is to switch to whichever platform has more of the apps you desire. If you're unwilling to do this because of your preference for Android, then it's the opportunity cost of your choice to go that way with your purchase.
2020 bears no significance in how developers make their softwar... | | When are you making an Android version of Procreate?
We would love for everybody to be able to enjoy Procreate, but the fragmentation of the Android marketplace is a complicating factor. We're not ruling it out, but at the moment we're focusing on continuing to strengthen and improve Procreate for iOS.
https://pr... | er07os | CMV: It's 2020, so there's no excuse anymore for popular apps to not be available on both iOS AND android phones. | I believe that if an app developer has an app on the App Store, they should also work towards releasing that app on the google play store as well. Obviously if there's a specific reason it's only meant for iOS, then fine. If the app isn't popular enough for it to make sense for them to spend the money to develop the ap... | 1,579,459,175 | peachyfae | ff0m5zb | fezt9kh | 68 | 38 |
CMV: The jury system is unfair and outdated
The jury system is a ridiculous way for people to be convicted based on. The public are too uneducated, biased and sometimes just straight up too stupid to make serious decisions about whether people receive life or death sentences.
The example that triggered me to make thi... | I haven't seen anyone else mention this yet, but jurors have a special power that no one else would be trusted with.
Before I mention juries super power, I want to talk about judges 1st. I hope you agree that we expect judges to follow the law. If the law says xyz is illegal, then the judge should treat xyz a... | >I am a member of the public and I know for a fact that I would be biased if I was ever called to jury duty
So. You're human. Just like everyone else. The world isn't made up of Spock's. We've got to work with what we've got.
Which is why Judges are put in charge and Council educates the jury as to the fac... | er9ifr | CMV: The jury system is unfair and outdated | The jury system is a ridiculous way for people to be convicted based on. The public are too uneducated, biased and sometimes just straight up too stupid to make serious decisions about whether people receive life or death sentences.
The example that triggered me to make this post was hearing on a podcast about the cas... | 1,579,502,624 | livid4 | ff3akfu | ff2i4f0 | 5 | 1 |
CMV: I do not like babies/little kids
I am not a monster, i do not put them into a van and throw the van into the hudson river, i just don't understand why people like them. somethings that i would like to highlight is that i would never to something to harm a child and that i do not HATE them, but i do not LOVE them,... | A lot of the joy in raising children is seeing stuff though their eyes and watching them grow. I have kids, and they’re great fun because of that.
Kids I don’t know (as in not mine, not my friends’s/family) are just other people - and many of them aren’t fun to be around. Kids are too often like New Yorkers: loud, o... | For most people, it's the emotional connection they feel with their child. The majority of parents that I know don't like other people's kids. I didn't like kids until I had one of my own. It's not a guarantee having one will change your outlook though either. It's not logical it's emotional and therefore hard to quant... | l1l23w | CMV: I do not like babies/little kids | I am not a monster, i do not put them into a van and throw the van into the hudson river, i just don't understand why people like them. somethings that i would like to highlight is that i would never to something to harm a child and that i do not HATE them, but i do not LOVE them, i just don't like them.
My reasons:The... | 1,611,184,122 | GostoDeNavios | gk01e15 | gk017r6 | 13 | 6 |
CMV: We need to stop arguing about whether abortion is moral and/or should be legal in the US.
1. If you believe abortion murder, don’t have one.
2. Most anti-choice people don’t believe that all women who have abortions should be charged with murder and put in prison which means on some level they admit it should be... | > Most anti-choice want exceptions for rape or incest which means on some level they admit it’s not murder.
Because it really IS about a woman's choice. If a woman CHOOSES to risk pregnancy, she must abide by the outcome. If a woman does NOT choose to risk pregnancy, then her rights to bodily autonomy are intact and ... | > Exactly, and since OP says we should not be arguing the morality of the abortion than this argument is invalid.
I mean that's the point. OP is wrong. That's kind of the purpose of this thread...? OP says we shouldn't be arguing about the morality of abortion and the people trying to change his view are saying he's ... | czzu16 | CMV: We need to stop arguing about whether abortion is moral and/or should be legal in the US. | 1. If you believe abortion murder, don’t have one.
2. Most anti-choice people don’t believe that all women who have abortions should be charged with murder and put in prison which means on some level they admit it should be legal. Can you imagine a scenario where you could hire someone to kill your kid and you weren’t... | 1,567,684,736 | HowAmINotMySelfie | ez4w6tk | ez4m7t5 | 3 | 2 |
CMV: The solution to the US Social Security funding shortage is to invest a portion of it in the stock market
For those who don’t know, the US Social Security fund will soon start taking in less money than it pays out. If nothing changes it’s estimated that it will be insolvent by 2035.
The solution I propose is to s... | Why not just raise the retirement age? When Social Security was founded the retirement age was close to the average life expectancy, now it's much lower. Can't we fix that problem before making the performance of the stock market a top government priority? If we let everyone's social security checks be dependent on ... | It is invested, in the US via treasury bills & bonds. They are backed by the promise of the US government.
It’s a lot less risky than investing in companies and then the government would be showing favoritism in some corporations. They would unfairly deal with them to make their stock prices go higher. Other corporat... | eqvlcy | CMV: The solution to the US Social Security funding shortage is to invest a portion of it in the stock market | For those who don’t know, the US Social Security fund will soon start taking in less money than it pays out. If nothing changes it’s estimated that it will be insolvent by 2035.
The solution I propose is to start investing a small portion of the fund into the stock market using a broad index (or multiple indexes to pr... | 1,579,436,302 | ny_hour | feygaf1 | fexup65 | 3 | 2 |
CMV: The best way to save Palestinian lives and end the inhumane blockade is a ground war
I don't see a solution for Gaza which doesnt include a ground war launched to depose and liberate those living in Gaza from Hamas. A ground war would stop the carpet bombing that is killing so many innocent civilians and would ... | It's unlikely that, even if Israel were able to catch all the leaders of Hamas, all terrorism originating from Gaza would cease. They've given too many people a reason to want to retaliate against Israel. Israel would use that as a justification to continue or resume the blockade, if they even need a justification.
Th... | And you don't think urban fighting would get innocent civilians killed?
Also, Hamas didn't exist for the entirety of Israel's existence. In fact, I'd argue the reason they exist is because of Israel's pre-existing treatment of Palestinians. What guarantee do you have that Israel 'removing Hamas' would actually result... | 17mmtuw | CMV: The best way to save Palestinian lives and end the inhumane blockade is a ground war |
I don't see a solution for Gaza which doesnt include a ground war launched to depose and liberate those living in Gaza from Hamas. A ground war would stop the carpet bombing that is killing so many innocent civilians and would allow more targeted arrests of leaders of Hamas responsible for the attacks on Oct 7th and ... | 1,698,985,247 | yamsandmarshmellows | k7m18h3 | k7m0m24 | 2 | 1 |
CMV: Gritty and "realistic" movies that are dark and depressing but have no real message past "Everything is shitty and you should feel shitty" are actively harmful and shouldn't be praised.
I am speaking of movies that try too hard and get praised by niche fans for "pushing the ceiling" of cinema.
For example, movi... | The thing you're missing is the element of TRAGEDY.
Irreversible shows this perfectly. The message isn't "life is shitty," the message is everything getting ruined by that dude's flaw: his possessive masculinity and unthinking desire for revenge. That's why the horrible rape happens after: If it happened before, we ... | While I definitely can't say this is my taste of movies, I tend to stick to the argument that art isn't made to conform to any individual's tastes. If some people like it, it's worth making.
I also don't really get what's harmful specifically about these movies. You didn't really explain it. Granted, I'm sure if you r... | d04bpe | CMV: Gritty and "realistic" movies that are dark and depressing but have no real message past "Everything is shitty and you should feel shitty" are actively harmful and shouldn't be praised. | I am speaking of movies that try too hard and get praised by niche fans for "pushing the ceiling" of cinema.
For example, movies such as the Poughkeepsie Tapes, Anti-Christ, A Serbian Film, and the most infamous rape in all of cinema, Irreversible, just rubs me the wrong way with what it's intended message is suppose... | 1,567,706,388 | CarnivorousL | ez5zqb1 | ez5z8w1 | 10 | 1 |
CMV: Free awards and the large amount of cheap reaction awards has devalued the meaning of Reddit awards
With the new system of people able to claim free awards, and the large array of cheaper reaction awards, I now often see posts with dozens and hundreds of awards, which has desensitised me to the specialness of awa... | The first and most basic award unit of the reddit economy is the Upvote. It has always been simultaneously worthless and priceless.
It gains us nothing, but as social primates we crave the approval of our peers. Its only value is in the dopamine hit it gives to the receiver and the sender.
Gold was introduced as a jo... | To modify your view here:
>They used to be a rare or special thing to acknowledge something special or show gratitude, but now these awards are just thrown around every where and no longer have the same meaning to me as in the past.
While it's true that making Reddit awards cheaper might make them less special, consi... | iqlysz | CMV: Free awards and the large amount of cheap reaction awards has devalued the meaning of Reddit awards | With the new system of people able to claim free awards, and the large array of cheaper reaction awards, I now often see posts with dozens and hundreds of awards, which has desensitised me to the specialness of awards.
They used to be a rare or special thing to acknowledge something special or show gratitude, but now ... | 1,599,809,155 | elch3w | g4tsjdj | g4t1j7o | 1,675 | 4 |
CMV: Foreign women that marry a man purely to gain citizenship or residence of his country, or vice versa, and then divorce him should be stripped of their citizenship/residence once the divorce is finalised and made to reapply
Recently there has been renewed controversy over Twitch streamer Alinity related to allegat... | That would create a really perverse incentive for somebody to stay in an abusive relationship wouldn’t it? If you meet somebody and everything seems good so you date for some time, marry, and go through the immigration process. Then the marriage turns sour. If you divorce, you risk being sent back to a country where yo... | Let me get this straight... you believe when a woman with a green card divorces her husband who is a natural born citizen, the state should compel her to go back through the costly immigration process? That sounds like a recipe for compelling women to stay with their husbands by assuming that they only married them for... | gamfzm | CMV: Foreign women that marry a man purely to gain citizenship or residence of his country, or vice versa, and then divorce him should be stripped of their citizenship/residence once the divorce is finalised and made to reapply | Recently there has been renewed controversy over Twitch streamer Alinity related to allegations Twitch are giving her special treatment over other streamers when it comes to her terms of use violations. I'm not here to discuss this, but rather an earlier controversy this has reminded me of where Alinity, who is Colombi... | 1,588,210,632 | theinspector5 | fp0kifv | fp0kcnq | 18 | 7 |
CMV: ethics works better when you completely remove all sense of responsibility.
I think human ethics works best in a “responsibility vacuum”, i.e. when you assume that nobody is ever truly responsible for anything that happens, because they themselves are the effect of other causes. A core premise for this way of th... | The trouble is that a sense of responsibility is often what motivates people to behave ethically. I can see the benefits of applying some elements the system you're describing on an institutional level, but I'm not sure what day-to-day individual moral decision making looks like for any given person exercising this phi... | I think your argument presumes that current criminal punishment isn’t primarily justified by its deterrence effect.
Your argument for determinism/lack of choice free will doesn’t invalidate the capacity of human organisms to respond to complex stimuli like criminal punishment. | 7t65sg | CMV: ethics works better when you completely remove all sense of responsibility. | I think human ethics works best in a “responsibility vacuum”, i.e. when you assume that nobody is ever truly responsible for anything that happens, because they themselves are the effect of other causes. A core premise for this way of thinking is taken from analytic psychology. I think people can’t be these singular ... | 1,516,988,305 | DrinkyDrank | dta6sfi | dta6p00 | 9 | 1 |
CMV: Action/Fight scenes in films with women have significantly less visual impact than those with men
It goes without saying that fight scenes from movies are unrealistic as HELL. As a lifetime martial artist/fighter it is ridiculously apparent to me how obviously fake all the moves and reactions are with a tiny hand... | I’m going to try to change the REASON for your view. Pretty much every movie of this type requires a complete suspension of disbelief. So the fact that you are willing to even believe in superpowers like people shooting laser beams from their eyeballs, BUT NOT believe that a woman could beat up a man is pretty silly. L... | If she is punching them in the chest and knocking them to the ground, then yeah, that is pretty fake feeling. If she is a highly skilled protagonist and is taking down general recruitment thugs with things like Jiu-jitsu where they are taking them down with precise strikes to joints. If some large guy rushes you tr... | iqq70a | CMV: Action/Fight scenes in films with women have significantly less visual impact than those with men | It goes without saying that fight scenes from movies are unrealistic as HELL. As a lifetime martial artist/fighter it is ridiculously apparent to me how obviously fake all the moves and reactions are with a tiny handful of exceptions.
However, as fake as it is seeing a guy take down 3 guys at once, it is orders of mag... | 1,599,829,966 | TApokerAITA | g4to31c | g4tmznz | 8 | 4 |
CMV: Conservatives are wrong about nearly everything they believe in.
Before you conservatives get mad, I want to tell you that I would consider myself mostly a libertarian. I believe that the government should be separated from market. But I am not saying that libertarians are wrong, I'm saying conservatives are wron... | You mention Ayn Rand 5 times but do not mention a single solitary "thinker" (conservative or liberal) that you "investigated." In all your "following," the names of the people speaking appear to have eluded you.
You have vague stories about the various fields in which (in your experience) conservatives have ideas, bu... | The mistake you are making is taking something that is 'subjective' and claiming a person who disagrees can 'dismantle' the argument.
Topics are very easy to find that are base don different priorities.
- Abortion
If you believe human life begins at conception, this is murder. If you don't - then its not murder. The... | l18uic | CMV: Conservatives are wrong about nearly everything they believe in. | Before you conservatives get mad, I want to tell you that I would consider myself mostly a libertarian. I believe that the government should be separated from market. But I am not saying that libertarians are wrong, I'm saying conservatives are wrong. Like the republican type and those who fit under that umbrella. I al... | 1,611,148,141 | kaazsssz | gjxy6n9 | gjxxopc | 27 | 20 |
CMV: As an anti-Trump voter, all the nitpicking at President Trump's little shortcomings (e.g. held a Bible the wrong way, overweight, how he gave money wrong at church) is extremely counterproductive, distracts from the real issues, and feeds the narrative that he's treated unfairly.
I saw a video today of President ... | The bible thing, and his weight, etc, are focused on because we can laugh at those things. Low hanging fruit. We can't laugh at how he tear gassed a priest for the bible photo. We can't laugh at the tanked economy, unemployment, or all the Americans dead from Covid.
Laughter diffuses anger, so we make jokes. It's ne... | >I'm convinced Trump supporters cannot be reached
Do you mean "people who like Trump", or do you mean "people who will vote for Trump because he pushes for policy they like, even though they think he's personally terrible"? | je1nvb | CMV: As an anti-Trump voter, all the nitpicking at President Trump's little shortcomings (e.g. held a Bible the wrong way, overweight, how he gave money wrong at church) is extremely counterproductive, distracts from the real issues, and feeds the narrative that he's treated unfairly. | I saw a video today of President Trump giving some money at church in Las Vegas. The entire article was about how he fanned the money out in a showy display.
Full disclosure: I think President Trump is an embarassment and a destructive force who NEEDS to be voted out of office for the sake of the USA and the world at... | 1,603,114,224 | anonymous_teve | g9bt6d4 | g9bpze1 | 39 | 8 |
CMV: there is no valid theological argument for banning abortion considering the Bible's stance on it. The anti-abortion stance is a modern construction designed to demonize liberals.
Exodus 21:22 If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be sur... | Life in the womb was certainly considered life in the Bible.
The [Exodus 21:22](https://bible.knowing-jesus.com/Exodus/21/22) is interesting because I looked at multiple translations...and there seems to be a discrepancy on whether 'causes the fruit to depart from her' means miscarriage or premature birth.
[Jeremia... | The anti-abortion stance is based on science and knowing how the biology works. It has nothing to do with the bible apart from "Thou shalt not kill", from this commandment follows that you can't kill a baby a second after it's been born, so you can't kill it when it's partially born, so you can't kill it 1 minute befor... | d03ajv | CMV: there is no valid theological argument for banning abortion considering the Bible's stance on it. The anti-abortion stance is a modern construction designed to demonize liberals. | Exodus 21:22 If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine.
This passage implies a fetus is a man's property not a human being otherwise ... | 1,567,701,794 | Chronomancer78 | ez5u63s | ez5t8h2 | 7 | 1 |
CMV: It's 2020, so there's no excuse anymore for popular apps to not be available on both iOS AND android phones.
I believe that if an app developer has an app on the App Store, they should also work towards releasing that app on the google play store as well. Obviously if there's a specific reason it's only meant for... | A lot of people have mentioned the technical and economic challenges of developing for both, especially the device fragmentation on Android.
BUT it also really comes down to the users. [This](https://buildfire.com/ios-android-users/) is a little dated, but it is the best public source I can find; and it aligns perfec... | This issue has been [discussed](http://www.matrudev.com/post/monument-valley-clear-example-developing-ios-profitable-android/) before [multiple](https://rubygarage.org/blog/ios-vs-android-development) [times](https://bgr.com/2016/07/20/ios-vs-android-developers-profits-app-store-google-play/).
'It is known'.
The is... | er07os | CMV: It's 2020, so there's no excuse anymore for popular apps to not be available on both iOS AND android phones. | I believe that if an app developer has an app on the App Store, they should also work towards releasing that app on the google play store as well. Obviously if there's a specific reason it's only meant for iOS, then fine. If the app isn't popular enough for it to make sense for them to spend the money to develop the ap... | 1,579,459,175 | peachyfae | ff2cvb4 | ff0xx71 | 4 | 1 |
CMV: The American-Redditor approach to dating & dating advice is, at best, useless, and at worst, often negative or counter-productive (or all three). [Apologies in advance for the length.]
**Summary** In animal behaviour and evolutionary psychology, there's a thing called the 'fight-flight response'. In terms of huma... | Your post is one of the best-written (grammatically) CMV entries I've seen, so congratulations on that. I did want to offer one suggestion to help you form a more nuanced opinion.
In your post, you stated:
>doing therapy is (it seems - I'm European) such an ingrained part of American life,
This, along with your men... | I agree that the most direct and helpful advice is, "He's just not that into you."
However, there are also a number of redditors who have mental health issues and likely face continued rejection for a number of reasons:
1) They don't know who they are and their potential mates get a fake / awkward / creepy vibe from ... | l1uvtg | CMV: The American-Redditor approach to dating & dating advice is, at best, useless, and at worst, often negative or counter-productive (or all three). [Apologies in advance for the length.] | **Summary** In animal behaviour and evolutionary psychology, there's a thing called the 'fight-flight response'. In terms of human relationships, this can be translated as: 'Do I try make things work or solve our problems? ('fight') or 'do we break up / Do I leave my partner' ('flight'). The overwhelming majority of su... | 1,611,220,089 | LandOfGreyAndPink | gk36z06 | gk2hax3 | 3 | 2 |
CMV: people claiming that stories are “fake” is getting old and pointless
Whenever there’s a story on Reddit that is remotely interesting and a bit out of the ordinary, people jump on OP, claiming their story can not be true because seriously, how could this be true? I’m thinking about this TIFU TSA groping love story... | Generally, yes, there's no actual harm done when someone posts a story where they actually say whatever they were thinking and everyone stands up and claps, as long as it's in a sub where that's appropriate.
This becomes a problem for other people when it happens in an engagement-focused sub, like any of the relations... | >Yes, some people might embellish stories with a few white lies which is fine by me, and others might just straight up write sad self centered fiction to invent a new life for themselves but... what’s the harm anyway?! You get entertained by the story and can move on with your life?
You seem to think it's pointless to... | er436h | CMV: people claiming that stories are “fake” is getting old and pointless | Whenever there’s a story on Reddit that is remotely interesting and a bit out of the ordinary, people jump on OP, claiming their story can not be true because seriously, how could this be true? I’m thinking about this TIFU TSA groping love story.
It feels so narrow minded that people can not conceive that other people... | 1,579,475,562 | noapesinoutterspace | ff1b0yw | ff1awul | 6 | 1 |
CMV: Simply being a pedophile (non-offending) should not be a social crime and the fact that it is produces a world that is less safe for children.
This CMV uses the *actual* definition of both pedophile and pedophilia, not the social definition. Meaning we are referring to people who experience an at least primary if... | In your beach scenario, I have no way of knowing what any given person is attracted to unless they are displaying their attractino through verbal or non-verbal means. If a person on a beach is thinking, for example, "man I'd like to fuck that dog," I have no way of knowing that, and you know what - everyone has shit th... | I'm sorry but absolutely not.
Your entire post just reeks of sympathy for paedophiles and I just can't do it, it's just not in me.
Instinctually as a human being I move into protective mode for the most vulnerable of our kind, in children (your usage of the words prepubescent people coupled together like that irked... | 12frcr7 | CMV: Simply being a pedophile (non-offending) should not be a social crime and the fact that it is produces a world that is less safe for children. | This CMV uses the *actual* definition of both pedophile and pedophilia, not the social definition. Meaning we are referring to people who experience an at least primary if not exclusive attraction towards **prepubescent** people.
Experiencing at least some amount of attraction towards people who are at least pubescent... | 1,680,972,445 | lardingg8 | jfhnws9 | jfh4zyv | 17 | 2 |
CMV: The Fermi Paradox can be resolved by a relatively basic understanding of the speed of causality.
Some background information:
[The Fermi Paradox](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox)
[The Speed Of Causality](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msVuCEs8Ydo)
My opinion is this: Civilizations can't progress ... | Much of your argument hinges on the comparatively “long” amount of time that a civilization requires to transmit communication across distances in space. While I agree that the speed of causality is one (of the many) factors why interspecies communication might have not been observed up till today, have you considered ... | You may successfully argue that there won't be civilisations larger than one star system, but that doesn't mean that this would leave only a few civilisations in our galaxy. In prehistoric times humanity spread from Africa to the rest of the world. This took many generatons - far longer than the 18 years that you consi... | 8aumgx | CMV: The Fermi Paradox can be resolved by a relatively basic understanding of the speed of causality. | Some background information:
[The Fermi Paradox](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox)
[The Speed Of Causality](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msVuCEs8Ydo)
My opinion is this: Civilizations can't progress beyond a one solar system civilization for a long period of time. Single system societies can't be easi... | 1,523,235,904 | PuffyPanda200 | dx1q93b | dx1q4ut | 13 | 2 |
CMV: REAL ID is a Scam
I believe that Real ID is a scam and serves no actual purpose other than extorting money from hard working Americans
If I have an ID from the commonwealth I live in that allows me to operate a motor vehicle, it should definitely allow me to be a passenger on an airplane.
When I got the ID from... | >It just sounds like legislation to standardize the identifying document requirements across the US - don't see any scam here
If that's the case, then why do I have to pay out of pocket when I have already proven my identity? Shouldn't that just automatically roll up if that's what they are trying to do? | It's not a scam to benefit some scammers, but rather standards for verification of identity that an identity document established. Things like what documentation must be provided to the issuing agency to prove someone's identity. It replaced inconsistent and inadequate requirements, which did not serve the purposes of ... | 16a0j1y | CMV: REAL ID is a Scam | I believe that Real ID is a scam and serves no actual purpose other than extorting money from hard working Americans
If I have an ID from the commonwealth I live in that allows me to operate a motor vehicle, it should definitely allow me to be a passenger on an airplane.
When I got the ID from my home commonwealth, I... | 1,693,853,738 | MyFavoriteArm | jz4tchb | jz4rpfm | 4 | 3 |
CMV: The definition of rape culture is a poor definition because it's definition is incongruous, easily misinterpretable, and kind of a moot point.
Definition of rape culture:
*"a society or environment whose prevailing social attitudes have the effect of normalizing or trivializing sexual assault and abuse."*
This... | > Steven Crowder got it confused when he made a video on the topic despite him having nearly 3 million subscribers (and a whole crew who could have checked the definition that is the main thesis of his video).
Steven Crowder has strong incentive to intentionally misunderstand the term, because his audience is against ... | I don't think the issue is necessarily if there is a culture, I think arguments can be made for anything to be a culture. The issue is how PERVASIVE the culture is, which rape culture is very. | 9s6t59 | CMV: The definition of rape culture is a poor definition because it's definition is incongruous, easily misinterpretable, and kind of a moot point. | Definition of rape culture:
*"a society or environment whose prevailing social attitudes have the effect of normalizing or trivializing sexual assault and abuse."*
This is a poor definition because rape culture implies a society that encourages or at least tolerates rape.
[Steven Crowder got it confused when he ma... | 1,540,761,234 | PepperJohn | e8mjq8j | e8mitdt | 14 | 3 |
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