ICSI_original_transcripts/transcripts/Bmr024.mrt

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1"?>
<!DOCTYPE Meeting SYSTEM "http://www.icsi.berkeley.edu/Speech/mr/Meeting1.dtd">

<Meeting Session="Bmr024" DateTimeStamp="2001-05-24-1450" Version="2" VersionDate="Jan 7 2004">

  <Preamble>
    <Notes>
      fe016 and mn017 arrived late, left early, and
   did not read digits.
   fe016 enters at about 13 min, mn017 at 12:26;
   fe016 exits at about 43 min, mn017 at 49:16.
   Digits were read simultaneously.
   The gain on me011's line was a little high, so he had frequent
   clipping throughout.
    </Notes>
    <Channels>
      <Channel Name="chan0" Mic="c1" Transmission="w1" Gain="9" AudioFile="chan0.sph"/>
      <Channel Name="chan1" Mic="s1" Transmission="w1" Gain="9" AudioFile="chan1.sph"/>
      <Channel Name="chan2" Mic="s1" Transmission="w1" Gain="9" AudioFile="chan2.sph"/>
      <Channel Name="chan3" Mic="s1" Transmission="w1" Gain="9" AudioFile="chan3.sph"/>
      <Channel Name="chan4" Mic="s1" Transmission="w1" Gain="9" AudioFile="chan4.sph"/>
      <Channel Name="chan5" Mic="c1" Transmission="w1" Gain="11" AudioFile="chan5.sph"/>
      <Channel Name="chan6" Mic="c2" Transmission="u1" Gain="9" AudioFile="chan6.sph"/>
      <Channel Name="chan7" Mic="c2" Transmission="u1" Gain="9" AudioFile="chan7.sph"/>
      <Channel Name="chan9" Mic="p1" Transmission="j1" Gain="7" AudioFile="chan9.sph"/>
      <Channel Name="chanA" Mic="u1" Transmission="j1" Gain="9" AudioFile="chanA.sph"/>
      <Channel Name="chanB" Mic="u2" Transmission="j1" Gain="11" AudioFile="chanB.sph"/>
      <Channel Name="chanC" Mic="u3" Transmission="j1" Gain="12" AudioFile="chanC.sph"/>
      <Channel Name="chanD" Mic="u3" Transmission="j1" Gain="12" AudioFile="chanD.sph"/>
      <Channel Name="chanE" Mic="c2" Transmission="u1" Gain="9" AudioFile="chanE.sph"/>
      <Channel Name="chanF" Mic="c2" Transmission="u1" Gain="9" AudioFile="chanF.sph"/>
    </Channels>
    <Participants DB="icsi1.spk">
      <Participant Name="fe008" Channel="chan0" Seat="1"/>
      <Participant Name="me018" Channel="chan1" Seat="6"/>
      <Participant Name="me051" Channel="chan2" Seat="8"/>
      <Participant Name="me013" Channel="chan3" Seat="5"/>
      <Participant Name="mn014" Channel="chan4" Seat="7"/>
      <Participant Name="me011" Channel="chan5" Seat="9"/>
      <Participant Name="fe016" Channel="chan9" Seat="4"/>
      <Participant Name="me001" Channel="chanA" Seat="3"/>
      <Participant Name="mn017" Channel="chanB" Seat="2"/>
    </Participants>
  </Preamble>


  <Transcript StartTime="0.0" EndTime="3109.302">

    <Segment StartTime="0.000" EndTime="0.320" Participant="me001">
      st- <Comment Description="very quietly"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="0.537" EndTime="1.002" Participant="me001">
      Yeah. <Comment Description="very quietly"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1.030" EndTime="2.072" Participant="me011">
      So we're on. <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1.322" EndTime="1.903" Participant="me001">
      That's better. <Comment Description="very quietly"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3.131" EndTime="3.534" Participant="mn014">
      <VocalSound Description="cough"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3.367" EndTime="5.140" Participant="me011">
      And, <Comment Description="overlapping mike noise"/> somewhere is my agenda.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="5.140" EndTime="5.379" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="5.379" EndTime="8.824" Participant="me011">
      I think the most important thing is Morgan wanted to talk about, uh,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="9.083" EndTime="10.101" Participant="me011">
      the ARPA <Pause/> demo.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="11.028" EndTime="11.673" Participant="me013">
      Well, so,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="12.290" EndTime="13.448" Participant="me013">
      here's the thing.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="13.519" EndTime="13.896" Participant="me013">
      Um,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="13.968" EndTime="16.173" Participant="me013">
      why don't we s- again start off with - with, uh,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="16.389" EndTime="16.622" Participant="me013">
      -n-
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="16.873" EndTime="17.536" Participant="me013">
      Yeah, I'll get it. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="17.698" EndTime="18.469" Participant="me013">
      I'll get the door. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="18.469" EndTime="19.095" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="19.095" EndTime="19.489" Participant="me013">
      Um,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="19.651" EndTime="22.070" Participant="me013">
      I think we want to start off with the <Emphasis> agenda. </Emphasis>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="22.070" EndTime="23.504" Participant="me013">
      And then, given that,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="24.347" EndTime="27.593" Participant="me013">
      uh, Liz and Andreas are gonna be <Pause/> ten, fifteen minutes late,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="28.212" EndTime="29.951" Participant="me013">
      we can try to figure out what we can
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="29.951" EndTime="31.906" Participant="me013">
      do most effectively without them here. So -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="31.547" EndTime="32.544" Participant="me011">
      O_K. So, uh -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="31.906" EndTime="32.426" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="32.426" EndTime="34.703" Participant="me013">
      So - so, one thing is, yeah, talk about demo,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="36.170" EndTime="38.220" Participant="me011">
      uh, I_B_M transcription status,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="37.672" EndTime="38.464" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="outbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="39.397" EndTime="41.050" Participant="me013">
      I_B_M transcription. <Comment Description="list intonation, while writing it down"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="44.467" EndTime="46.041" Participant="me013">
      Uh, what else?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="45.802" EndTime="46.736" Participant="me011">
      SmartKom.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="46.810" EndTime="47.874" Participant="me013">
      SmartKom.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="48.532" EndTime="49.209" Participant="me013">
      SmartKom.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="49.508" EndTime="50.253" Participant="me013">
      What's SmartKom?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="50.412" EndTime="51.134" Participant="mn014">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="50.590" EndTime="51.804" Participant="me011">
      Uh, we wanna talk about
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="52.342" EndTime="55.868" Participant="me011">
      if w- <Emphasis> if </Emphasis> we wanna add the data to the mar- Meeting Recorder corpus.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="52.676" EndTime="53.321" Participant="mn014">
      The data.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="56.580" EndTime="57.936" Participant="mn014">
      The data which we are collecting here.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="60.952" EndTime="62.152" Participant="me013">
      What - what - what are we collecting here?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="62.100" EndTime="62.671" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="62.530" EndTime="64.284" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="62.671" EndTime="63.049" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="62.772" EndTime="64.037" Participant="me001">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="62.796" EndTime="63.290" Participant="mn014">
      Data?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="63.049" EndTime="66.326" Participant="me011">
      So why don't we have that on the agenda and we'll - we'll get to it and talk about it? <Comment Description="mike distortion overlaps speech"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="63.597" EndTime="66.034" Participant="mn014">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> The SmartKom data? <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="66.555" EndTime="67.013" Participant="me013">
      Yeah, right.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="67.017" EndTime="67.227" Participant="mn014">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="67.491" EndTime="67.870" Participant="me013">
      Uh,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="68.806" EndTime="69.364" Participant="me013">
      right.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="70.998" EndTime="72.074" Participant="me013">
      Uh. <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="72.570" EndTime="74.561" Participant="me011">
      Uh, reorganization status.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="75.923" EndTime="77.343" Participant="me013">
      Reorganization
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="77.810" EndTime="78.650" Participant="me013">
      status.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="77.828" EndTime="78.169" Participant="fe008">
      Oh.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="78.388" EndTime="79.504" Participant="fe008">
      Files and directories?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="79.467" EndTime="80.643" Participant="me013">
      Files and directories.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="79.641" EndTime="79.900" Participant="me011">
      Yep.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="81.912" EndTime="82.510" Participant="me011">
      Uh-huh.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="82.888" EndTime="83.783" Participant="me011">
      Absinthe,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="84.242" EndTime="86.150" Participant="me011">
      which is the multiprocessor UNIX -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="86.330" EndTime="86.874" Participant="me011">
      Linux.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="90.930" EndTime="94.472" Participant="me011">
      I think it was <Pause/> Andreas wanted to talk about segmentation and recognition,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="101.193" EndTime="104.074" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> and update on S_R_I recognition experiments.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="106.709" EndTime="107.326" Participant="me013">
      Um -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="110.022" EndTime="114.724" Participant="me011">
      And then if ti- if there's <Emphasis> time </Emphasis> I wanted to talk about digits, but it looked like we were pretty full, so I can wait till next week.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="115.097" EndTime="115.475" Participant="me013">
      <Pronounce Pronunciation="&quot;mm-right&quot;"> Right.  </Pronounce>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="117.388" EndTime="117.727" Participant="me013">
      O_K.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="118.739" EndTime="119.439" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="119.439" EndTime="120.037" Participant="me013">
      Well, let's see.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="120.316" EndTime="126.550" Participant="me013">
      I think the a- certainly the segmentation and recognition we wanna maybe focus on when An- Andreas is here since that was particularly his
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="126.499" EndTime="127.527" Participant="mn014">
      And also the SmartKom
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="126.931" EndTime="127.329" Participant="me013">
      thing.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="127.947" EndTime="128.189" Participant="mn014">
      thing
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="128.202" EndTime="129.657" Participant="me013">
      SmartKom also,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="128.455" EndTime="128.736" Participant="mn014">
      should
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="129.075" EndTime="129.190" Participant="mn014">
      b-
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="130.114" EndTime="130.891" Participant="me013">
      Andreas.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="131.329" EndTime="132.783" Participant="me013">
      Absinthe, I think also he
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="133.062" EndTime="135.314" Participant="me013">
      has sort of been involved in a lot of those things. Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="134.438" EndTime="136.973" Participant="me011">
      At least, <Uncertain> yeah </Uncertain>, he'll t- he'll probably be interested.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="137.033" EndTime="137.312" Participant="me011">
      But.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="137.047" EndTime="137.414" Participant="me013">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="138.191" EndTime="138.854" Participant="me013">
      Um <Pause/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="139.183" EndTime="139.302" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="mouth"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="139.591" EndTime="142.152" Participant="me013">
      So, I mean, I think they'll be inter- I'll be interested in all this, but -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="142.351" EndTime="144.224" Participant="me013">
      but, uh, probably,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="144.840" EndTime="147.270" Participant="me013">
      if we had to pick <Emphasis> something </Emphasis> <Pause/> that we would talk on for
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="147.629" EndTime="150.598" Participant="me013">
      ten minutes or so while they're coming here. Or I guess it would be,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="150.956" EndTime="153.359" Participant="me013">
      you think, reorganization status, or - ? <Comment Description="leading question"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="153.353" EndTime="153.957" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="mouth"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="153.957" EndTime="154.732" Participant="me011">
      Yeah. I mean, I think,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="154.732" EndTime="155.768" Participant="me011">
      Chuck was the one who
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="155.908" EndTime="159.375" Participant="me011">
      added out the agenda item. I don't really have anything to <Emphasis> say </Emphasis> other than that we still haven't <Emphasis> done </Emphasis> it.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="159.494" EndTime="159.833" Participant="me011">
      So.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="159.625" EndTime="160.395" Participant="me018">
      Well, I mean, I uh -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="159.967" EndTime="161.494" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="160.500" EndTime="161.338" Participant="me001">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="160.527" EndTime="162.181" Participant="mn014">
      <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="160.661" EndTime="161.021" Participant="me018">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="161.501" EndTime="162.408" Participant="me018">
      just basically that -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="162.408" EndTime="163.195" Participant="me018">
      <VocalSound Description="mouth"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="163.195" EndTime="166.681" Participant="me018">
      maybe I said - maybe we said this before - just that we met and we talked about it and
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="167.266" EndTime="167.520" Participant="me018">
      we
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="167.662" EndTime="168.838" Participant="me018">
      sort of have a plan for
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="169.138" EndTime="170.350" Participant="me018">
      getting things organized and -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="170.631" EndTime="176.083" Participant="fe008">
      And I - and I think a crucial part of that is the idea of - of not wanting to do it until right before the next level zero back-up
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="172.305" EndTime="172.823" Participant="me018">
      <VocalSound Description="clears throat"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="176.083" EndTime="178.083" Participant="fe008">
      so that there won't be huge number of -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="177.371" EndTime="177.827" Participant="me018">
      Right.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="178.567" EndTime="179.483" Participant="fe008">
      of added, uh -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="179.724" EndTime="180.034" Participant="me011">
      Right.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="181.370" EndTime="183.058" Participant="me018">
      That - that was basically it. Not - not much <Uncertain NumSyllables="1"> @@ </Uncertain> - <Comment Description="decreasing volume"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="182.322" EndTime="183.724" Participant="me011">
      Although Dave basically said
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="183.008" EndTime="183.367" Participant="fe008">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="184.361" EndTime="184.687" Participant="me011">
      that
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="184.776" EndTime="185.639" Participant="me011">
      if we wanna <Emphasis> do </Emphasis> it,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="185.698" EndTime="185.997" Participant="fe008">
      Uh-huh.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="185.718" EndTime="186.709" Participant="me011">
      just <Emphasis> tell </Emphasis> him and he'll
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="186.769" EndTime="187.997" Participant="me011">
      do a d- level zero then.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="187.851" EndTime="189.105" Participant="fe008">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> Oh, excellent.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="188.770" EndTime="189.266" Participant="me011">
      So.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="189.158" EndTime="191.679" Participant="me018">
      Oh, so maybe we <Pronounce Pronunciation="&quot;ju&quot;"> should  </Pronounce> just go ahead and get everything ready, and -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="189.284" EndTime="190.258" Participant="fe008">
      Oh, good.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="191.803" EndTime="192.061" Participant="me011">
      Yep.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="192.061" EndTime="192.855" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="192.829" EndTime="193.666" Participant="me018">
      <VocalSound Description="clears throat"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="192.855" EndTime="194.819" Participant="me011">
      So, I think we <Emphasis> do </Emphasis> need to talk a little bit about -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="195.057" EndTime="198.050" Participant="me011">
      Well, we don't need to do it during this meeting. We have a <Emphasis> little </Emphasis> more to discuss.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="196.824" EndTime="197.112" Participant="me018">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="198.149" EndTime="198.843" Participant="me011">
      But, uh,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="199.120" EndTime="200.686" Participant="me011">
      we're - we're basically ready to do it.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="203.053" EndTime="205.209" Participant="me011">
      And, uh, I have some web pages on
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="205.367" EndTime="205.505" Participant="me011">
      ts- <Comment Description="quietly"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="205.665" EndTime="206.735" Participant="me011">
      more of the background.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="207.350" EndTime="211.551" Participant="me011">
      So, naming conventions and things like that, that I've been trying to keep actually up to date.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="211.670" EndTime="212.086" Participant="me011">
      So. <Comment Description="while laughing"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="212.086" EndTime="212.790" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="212.790" EndTime="215.623" Participant="me011">
      And I've been <Pronounce Pronunciation="&quot;showing&quot;"> sharing  </Pronounce> them with U_d- U_W folks also.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="217.852" EndTime="218.848" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="breath"/> <Pronounce Pronunciation="&quot;mm-kay&quot;"> O_K.  </Pronounce>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="218.137" EndTime="220.824" Participant="fe008">
      <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> I'm sorry, you've been what? Showing them? <Emphasis> Sharing </Emphasis> them. O_K.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="219.473" EndTime="221.695" Participant="me011">
      <Emphasis> Sharing </Emphasis> them with the U_W folks.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="221.376" EndTime="221.615" Participant="fe008">
      <Pronounce Pronunciation="&quot;kay&quot;"> O_K.  </Pronounce> <Comment Description="quietly"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="223.709" EndTime="224.208" Participant="me013">
      O_K.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="224.686" EndTime="225.510" Participant="me013">
      Well, maybe uh,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="225.788" EndTime="230.012" Participant="me013">
      since that - that was a pretty short one, maybe we should talk about the I_B_M transcription status. Someone can
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="230.012" EndTime="230.351" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="230.351" EndTime="232.441" Participant="me013">
      fill in Liz and Andreas later. Uh <Pause/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="231.964" EndTime="233.149" Participant="me011">
      O_K. So, we, uh -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="234.653" EndTime="239.251" Participant="me011">
      we did another version of the beeps, where we separated each beeps with a spoken digit.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="239.489" EndTime="242.856" Participant="me011">
      Chuck came up here and recorded some di- himself speaking some digits,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="242.856" EndTime="243.213" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="243.213" EndTime="243.748" Participant="me011">
      and so it just
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="243.887" EndTime="248.545" Participant="me011">
      goes "beep one beep" and then the phrase, and then "beep two beep" and then the phrase.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="248.545" EndTime="248.905" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="248.905" EndTime="250.094" Participant="me011">
      And that seems pretty good.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="250.193" EndTime="250.768" Participant="me011">
      Um,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="250.847" EndTime="251.184" Participant="me011">
      I think
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="251.244" EndTime="254.455" Participant="me011">
      they'll have a b- easier time keeping track of where they are in the file.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="254.633" EndTime="256.603" Participant="mn014">
      And we have done that on the <Pause/> automatic
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="256.938" EndTime="257.640" Participant="mn014">
      segmentations.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="256.953" EndTime="261.195" Participant="me011">
      And we did it with the automatic segmentation, and I don't think - We ne- we didn't look at it in detail.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="261.294" EndTime="263.831" Participant="me011">
      We just sent it to I_B_M. We - we sorta <Emphasis> spot-checked </Emphasis> it.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="263.717" EndTime="264.017" Participant="me018">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="264.017" EndTime="265.673" Participant="me018">
      I listened to <Pause/> probably,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="264.029" EndTime="264.452" Participant="mn014">
      Yeah. <Comment Description="creaky voice"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="266.596" EndTime="269.068" Participant="me018">
      uh, five or ten minutes of it from the beginning.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="269.210" EndTime="270.234" Participant="me011">
      Oh, really? O_K.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="269.776" EndTime="270.100" Participant="me018">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="270.325" EndTime="270.780" Participant="me018">
      And -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="270.373" EndTime="273.009" Participant="me011">
      I sorta spot-checked here and there and it sounded pretty good.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="273.723" EndTime="274.139" Participant="me011">
      So.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="275.045" EndTime="275.464" Participant="me013">
      <Pronounce Pronunciation="&quot;mm-kay&quot;"> O_K.  </Pronounce>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="275.383" EndTime="276.583" Participant="me011">
      I think it'll work. <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="277.753" EndTime="279.123" Participant="me011">
      And, uh, we'll just hafta
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="279.262" EndTime="280.451" Participant="me011">
      see what we get back from them.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="280.808" EndTime="281.323" Participant="me011">
      Uh -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="281.393" EndTime="282.401" Participant="me018">
      And the main thing will be
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="282.533" EndTime="283.372" Participant="me018">
      if we can
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="283.444" EndTime="285.124" Participant="me018">
      <Emphasis> align </Emphasis> what they give us
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="285.664" EndTime="286.701" Participant="me018">
      with what we sent them.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="287.193" EndTime="288.303" Participant="me018">
      I mean, that's the crucial
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="288.699" EndTime="289.131" Participant="me018">
      part.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="289.313" EndTime="289.689" Participant="me011">
      Right.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="289.947" EndTime="290.559" Participant="me018">
      And I think
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="290.643" EndTime="292.647" Participant="me018">
      we'll be able to do that at - with this new
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="292.995" EndTime="293.379" Participant="me018">
      beep
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="293.645" EndTime="294.137" Participant="me018">
      format.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="294.078" EndTime="294.375" Participant="me011">
      Yep.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="295.569" EndTime="295.867" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="295.867" EndTime="296.382" Participant="me011">
      Well, I think
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="296.679" EndTime="297.472" Participant="me011">
      it's also
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="297.750" EndTime="298.344" Participant="me011">
      they are
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="298.344" EndTime="300.247" Participant="me011">
      much less likely to d- have errors.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="300.364" EndTime="300.751" Participant="me018">
      Mm-hmm.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="301.000" EndTime="305.751" Participant="me011">
      I mean, so the problem wi- last time is that there were errors in the transcripts where they <Emphasis> put </Emphasis> beeps where there weren't any,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="305.695" EndTime="306.079" Participant="me018">
      Right.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="306.088" EndTime="308.129" Participant="me011">
      or - and they put in extraneous beeps.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="308.251" EndTime="308.599" Participant="me018">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="308.803" EndTime="310.765" Participant="me011">
      And with the numbers there, it's much less likely.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="311.028" EndTime="311.583" Participant="me018">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="311.583" EndTime="312.123" Participant="me018">
      Yeah, one
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="312.353" EndTime="313.406" Participant="me018">
      interesting note is -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="313.550" EndTime="315.134" Participant="me018">
      uh, or problem - I dunno if this was just
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="315.446" EndTime="319.881" Participant="me018">
      because of how <Emphasis> I </Emphasis> play it back, I say, uh, S_N_D-play and then the file, <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="319.881" EndTime="320.841" Participant="me018">
      every once in a while,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="320.841" EndTime="323.781" Participant="me018">
      <Uncertain NumSyllables="1"> @@ </Uncertain> <Comment Description="uncodeable vocal squeak"/> uh, like a beep sounds like it's <Emphasis> cut </Emphasis> into two beeps.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="322.941" EndTime="324.393" Participant="mn014">
      Yeah. Into two pieces. Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="324.429" EndTime="325.167" Participant="me018">
      Yeah, and
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="324.807" EndTime="325.085" Participant="mn014">
      Yep.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="325.335" EndTime="327.555" Participant="me018">
      I - I dunno if that's an, uh, artifact of playback -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="327.555" EndTime="329.871" Participant="me018">
      bu- uh, I don't think it's probably in the original file.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="329.871" EndTime="330.267" Participant="me018">
      Um,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="330.007" EndTime="330.981" Participant="mn014">
      I recognize that, too.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="330.981" EndTime="331.182" Participant="mn014">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="331.335" EndTime="331.885" Participant="me018">
      but, uh -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="331.340" EndTime="332.813" Participant="me011">
      Ha. That's interesting. I didn't hear that.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="332.809" EndTime="333.337" Participant="me018">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="333.840" EndTime="335.328" Participant="me018">
      But with this new format,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="335.328" EndTime="335.868" Participant="me018">
      um,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="335.868" EndTime="336.492" Participant="me018">
      that
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="336.900" EndTime="339.756" Participant="me018">
      hopefully <Emphasis> they're </Emphasis> not hearing that, and if they are, it shouldn't throw them.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="338.538" EndTime="338.889" Participant="mn014">
      Yep.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="340.860" EndTime="341.740" Participant="me018">
      So. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="341.823" EndTime="343.961" Participant="me011">
      Well, maybe we better listen to it again, make sure, but,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="344.258" EndTime="345.844" Participant="me011">
      I mean, certainly the software shouldn't
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="345.985" EndTime="346.225" Participant="me018">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="346.022" EndTime="347.113" Participant="me011">
      do that, so. <Comment Description="while laughing"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="346.225" EndTime="348.171" Participant="me018">
      Yeah. That's what I thought. I- it's probably just,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="347.113" EndTime="347.549" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="347.268" EndTime="347.685" Participant="fe008">
      Mm-hmm. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="348.369" EndTime="348.801" Participant="me018">
      you know,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="348.801" EndTime="349.737" Participant="me018">
      mmm, somehow the
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="350.193" EndTime="351.301" Participant="me018">
      audio <Pause/> device
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="351.301" EndTime="351.721" Participant="me018">
      gets
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="351.531" EndTime="353.098" Participant="mn014">
      Yeah. Some latency or something. Yeah?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="351.963" EndTime="352.756" Participant="me011">
      Hiccups.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="352.273" EndTime="353.469" Participant="me018">
      hung for a second, or -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="353.506" EndTime="353.705" Participant="mn014">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="353.602" EndTime="354.960" Participant="fe008">
      As long as they have one number,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="355.279" EndTime="357.706" Participant="fe008">
      and they know that there's only one beep maximum <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="357.229" EndTime="357.550" Participant="mn014">
      Yeah. <Comment Description="very quietly"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="357.623" EndTime="357.923" Participant="me018">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="357.706" EndTime="358.703" Participant="fe008">
      that goes with that number. <Comment Description="while laughing"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="357.768" EndTime="358.303" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="358.303" EndTime="361.673" Participant="me011">
      Yeah. The only - the only part that might be confusing is when Chuck is reading digits.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="358.480" EndTime="358.744" Participant="me018">
      Right.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="358.703" EndTime="360.157" Participant="fe008">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="362.013" EndTime="362.292" Participant="mn014">
      Yep.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="362.067" EndTime="362.463" Participant="me018">
      Right. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="362.089" EndTime="363.972" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="362.895" EndTime="365.139" Participant="me018">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> So <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> th- <Comment Description="while laughing"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="364.093" EndTime="365.084" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="364.145" EndTime="364.842" Participant="mn014">
      <VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="364.449" EndTime="365.515" Participant="fe008">
      Well, you know, <Emphasis> actually, </Emphasis>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="365.084" EndTime="365.421" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="365.400" EndTime="365.739" Participant="mn014">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="365.421" EndTime="368.513" Participant="me011">
      "Seven four eight <Emphasis> beep </Emphasis> seven <Emphasis> beep </Emphasis> <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> eight three two".
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="365.515" EndTime="366.523" Participant="fe008">
      are we having them -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="367.855" EndTime="368.083" Participant="me018">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="368.209" EndTime="370.001" Participant="fe008">
      Yeah, but are we having them do digits?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="368.513" EndTime="369.207" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="369.207" EndTime="369.742" Participant="me011">
      Yes.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="369.960" EndTime="371.581" Participant="me011">
      Because, uh, we don't -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="370.783" EndTime="372.343" Participant="me018">
      We - we didn't cut those out.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="371.530" EndTime="371.791" Participant="mn014">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="371.843" EndTime="372.259" Participant="me011">
      we didn't -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="372.714" EndTime="374.168" Participant="mn014">
      They are not transcribed yet. So. Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="372.774" EndTime="374.643" Participant="me011">
      In order to cut them out we'd have to listen to it.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="374.487" EndTime="374.726" Participant="mn014">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="374.742" EndTime="377.973" Participant="me011">
      And we wanted to avoid doing that, so we - they are transcribing the digits.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="374.891" EndTime="375.218" Participant="fe008">
      O_K.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="375.380" EndTime="375.861" Participant="me001">
      <VocalSound Description="clears throat"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="376.390" EndTime="376.683" Participant="fe008">
      <Pronounce Pronunciation="&quot;mm-kay&quot;"> O_K.  </Pronounce>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="377.973" EndTime="378.250" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="378.059" EndTime="378.224" Participant="fe008">
      <Pronounce Pronunciation="&quot;kay&quot;"> O_K.  </Pronounce> <Comment Description="quietly"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="378.250" EndTime="379.677" Participant="me011">
      Although we <Emphasis> could </Emphasis> tell them - <Comment Description="heavy mike distortion"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="378.475" EndTime="379.855" Participant="me018">
      We can - we can ignore it
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="379.677" EndTime="379.995" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="379.975" EndTime="381.067" Participant="me018">
      when we get it back, huh.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="379.995" EndTime="381.132" Participant="me011">
      we could tell them,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="381.206" EndTime="381.642" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="381.431" EndTime="383.772" Participant="me011">
      if you hear someone reading a digits string just say
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="382.481" EndTime="383.617" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="383.911" EndTime="386.521" Participant="me011">
      "bracket digit bracket" and don't bother actually
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="386.521" EndTime="387.446" Participant="me011">
      computing the di-
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="387.506" EndTime="388.701" Participant="me011">
      writing down the digits.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="387.743" EndTime="388.122" Participant="me018">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="388.990" EndTime="390.288" Participant="fe008">
      That'd be great. That'd be what I'm having
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="390.288" EndTime="391.959" Participant="fe008">
      the transcribers here do, cuz it can be
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="392.079" EndTime="393.197" Participant="fe008">
      extracted later. <Comment Description="decreasing volume"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="393.244" EndTime="393.523" Participant="me011">
      Yep.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="393.700" EndTime="395.175" Participant="me011">
      And then I wanted to <Emphasis> talk </Emphasis> about -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="395.334" EndTime="397.267" Participant="me011">
      but as I said I - we may not have <Emphasis> time </Emphasis> -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="397.346" EndTime="400.714" Participant="me011">
      what we should <Emphasis> do </Emphasis> about digits. We have a whole pile of digits that haven't been transcribed.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="399.167" EndTime="400.390" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="mouth"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="400.390" EndTime="402.057" Participant="me013">
      Le- let's talk about it, because
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="402.057" EndTime="406.022" Participant="me013">
      that's - that's something that I - I know Andreas is less interested in than Liz is, so,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="403.634" EndTime="403.838" Participant="me001">
      <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="405.032" EndTime="405.550" Participant="me011">
      O_K.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="406.221" EndTime="406.580" Participant="me013">
      you know.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="406.256" EndTime="408.149" Participant="me011">
      Do we have anything else to say about transcription?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="406.583" EndTime="407.709" Participant="me001">
      <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="406.697" EndTime="406.996" Participant="me013">
      It's good -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="408.149" EndTime="408.726" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="408.239" EndTime="409.128" Participant="me001">
      <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="408.726" EndTime="409.822" Participant="me011">
      About I_B_M stuff?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="409.710" EndTime="410.661" Participant="me018">
      Uh, Brian - I -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="410.817" EndTime="415.431" Participant="me018">
      I <VocalSound Description="outbreath"/> sent <Pronounce> bresset  </Pronounce> - <VocalSound Description="outbreath"/> <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> sent <Emphasis> Brian </Emphasis> a <Emphasis> message </Emphasis> about <Pause/> <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> the meeting
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="413.631" EndTime="414.328" Participant="me001">
      <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="415.011" EndTime="416.197" Participant="me001">
      <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="415.431" EndTime="416.703" Participant="me018">
      and I haven't heard back yet.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="416.799" EndTime="417.087" Participant="me018">
      So.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="416.909" EndTime="419.680" Participant="me001">
      <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="417.132" EndTime="417.531" Participant="me011">
      O_K.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="418.179" EndTime="419.603" Participant="me018">
      I g- hope he got it and hopefully he's -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="418.439" EndTime="418.611" Participant="fe008">
      Hmm. <Comment Description="very quietly"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="419.759" EndTime="421.187" Participant="me018">
      maybe he's gone, I dunno. He didn't
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="420.159" EndTime="420.551" Participant="me001">
      <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="420.798" EndTime="421.539" Participant="me001">
      <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="421.283" EndTime="422.591" Participant="me018">
      even reply to my message. So.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="422.120" EndTime="422.745" Participant="me001">
      <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="423.079" EndTime="424.644" Participant="me001">
      <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="423.371" EndTime="424.965" Participant="me018">
      I should probably ping him just to make sure that
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="425.316" EndTime="425.737" Participant="me001">
      <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="426.730" EndTime="427.150" Participant="me018">
      he got it. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="427.410" EndTime="427.771" Participant="me011">
      <Pronounce Pronunciation="&quot;arright&quot;"> Alright.  </Pronounce>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="427.577" EndTime="427.718" Participant="me018">
      <Uncertain NumSyllables="1"> @@ </Uncertain> <Comment Description="uncodeable vocal sound"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="429.000" EndTime="430.688" Participant="me011">
      So, we have a whole bunch of digits,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="430.947" EndTime="432.341" Participant="me011">
      if we wanna move on to digits.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="432.019" EndTime="432.340" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="432.340" EndTime="437.301" Participant="me013">
      Actually, maybe I - One - one relate- more related thing in transcription. So that's the I_B_M stuff. We've got that sorted out.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="437.420" EndTime="439.231" Participant="me013">
      Um, how're we doing on the - on the rest of it?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="439.051" EndTime="439.403" Participant="fe008">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="439.403" EndTime="440.063" Participant="fe008">
      We're doing well.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="440.063" EndTime="444.088" Participant="fe008">
      I - I hire - I've hired <Emphasis> two </Emphasis> extra people already, expect to hire two more.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="440.349" EndTime="440.548" Participant="me011">
      Hmm. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="444.088" EndTime="444.520" Participant="fe008">
      <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="444.520" EndTime="445.309" Participant="fe008">
      And, um,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="445.309" EndTime="445.688" Participant="fe008">
      <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="445.688" EndTime="446.601" Participant="fe008">
      I've prepared,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="446.791" EndTime="447.152" Participant="fe008">
      um,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="447.445" EndTime="450.149" Participant="fe008">
      uh, a set of <Emphasis> five </Emphasis> which I'm - which I'm calling set two,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="450.149" EndTime="450.546" Participant="fe008">
      <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="450.546" EndTime="453.250" Participant="fe008">
      which are now being edited by my head transcriber,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="453.250" EndTime="453.560" Participant="fe008">
      <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="453.560" EndTime="456.573" Participant="fe008">
      in terms of spelling errors and all that. She's also checking through and mar- and -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="456.573" EndTime="456.952" Participant="fe008">
      <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="456.952" EndTime="458.246" Participant="fe008">
      and monitoring, um,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="458.521" EndTime="459.661" Participant="fe008">
      the transcription of
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="459.867" EndTime="460.832" Participant="fe008">
      another transcriber.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="461.021" EndTime="463.055" Participant="fe008">
      You know, I mean, she's going through and doing these kinds of checks.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="461.176" EndTime="461.494" Participant="me013">
      Uh-huh.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="463.055" EndTime="463.500" Participant="fe008">
      <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="463.500" EndTime="463.860" Participant="fe008">
      And,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="463.860" EndTime="468.272" Participant="fe008">
      I've moved on now to what I'm calling set three. I sort of thought if I do it in sets - groups of five,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="468.552" EndTime="470.001" Participant="fe008">
      then I can have, like, sort of a -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="470.297" EndTime="472.307" Participant="fe008">
      a parallel processing through - through the -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="470.322" EndTime="470.701" Participant="me013">
      Uh-huh.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="472.540" EndTime="472.902" Participant="fe008">
      the current.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="472.902" EndTime="473.163" Participant="fe008">
      <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="473.163" EndTime="473.453" Participant="fe008">
      And -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="473.453" EndTime="475.918" Participant="fe008">
      and you indicated to me that we have a g- a <Emphasis> goal </Emphasis> now,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="475.918" EndTime="476.270" Participant="fe008">
      <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="476.270" EndTime="476.781" Participant="fe008">
      for the -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="476.906" EndTime="477.417" Participant="fe008">
      for the,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="477.723" EndTime="478.098" Participant="fe008">
      um,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="478.189" EndTime="478.269" Participant="fe008">
      <NonVocalSound Description="click"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="478.269" EndTime="478.677" Participant="fe008">
      <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="478.677" EndTime="480.220" Participant="fe008">
      the, uh, DARPA <Emphasis> demo, </Emphasis>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="480.538" EndTime="481.481" Participant="fe008">
      of twenty hours.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="481.481" EndTime="481.765" Participant="fe008">
      <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="481.765" EndTime="483.593" Participant="fe008">
      So, I'm gonna go up to twenty hours,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="483.877" EndTime="485.501" Participant="fe008">
      be sure that everything gets processed,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="485.897" EndTime="486.815" Participant="fe008">
      and released,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="487.201" EndTime="487.553" Participant="fe008">
      and -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="487.553" EndTime="487.723" Participant="fe008">
      <Pause/> <Comment Description="some background noise"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="487.723" EndTime="488.336" Participant="fe008">
      and that's -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="488.336" EndTime="490.858" Participant="fe008">
      that's what my goal is. Package of twenty hours right now,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="490.858" EndTime="491.107" Participant="fe008">
      <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="491.107" EndTime="492.922" Participant="fe008">
      and then once that's done, move on to the next.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="492.775" EndTime="493.242" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="493.242" EndTime="493.845" Participant="me013">
      Yeah, uh,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="493.845" EndTime="494.084" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="494.084" EndTime="496.077" Participant="me013">
      so twenty hours. But I guess the other thing is that,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="496.196" EndTime="496.754" Participant="me013">
      um,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="496.754" EndTime="499.563" Participant="me013">
      that - that's kinda twenty hours A_SAP because
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="499.882" EndTime="500.619" Participant="me013">
      the longer
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="500.818" EndTime="505.489" Participant="me013">
      <Emphasis> before </Emphasis> the demo we actually have the twenty hours, the more time it'll be for people to actually do
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="506.047" EndTime="506.725" Participant="me013">
      cool things with it.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="506.634" EndTime="506.918" Participant="fe008">
      Mm-hmm. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="507.064" EndTime="507.382" Participant="me013">
      So.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="507.066" EndTime="507.412" Participant="fe008">
      Good.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="507.480" EndTime="508.479" Participant="fe008">
      I'm - I'm hiring people who,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="508.479" EndTime="508.877" Participant="fe008">
      <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="508.618" EndTime="508.936" Participant="me013">
      <Pronounce Pronunciation="&quot;mm-kay&quot;"> O_K.  </Pronounce>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="508.877" EndTime="509.751" Participant="fe008">
      uh, <Emphasis> really </Emphasis> are -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="509.876" EndTime="511.943" Participant="fe008">
      They would like to do it full-time, several of these people.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="512.204" EndTime="512.602" Participant="me013">
      Mm-hmm.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="512.352" EndTime="513.976" Participant="fe008">
      And - and I don't think it's
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="513.976" EndTime="514.379" Participant="fe008">
      <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="514.379" EndTime="516.541" Participant="fe008">
      possible, really, to do this full-time, but,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="515.093" EndTime="516.494" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="515.510" EndTime="517.131" Participant="me018">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="516.269" EndTime="516.986" Participant="mn014">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="516.541" EndTime="519.660" Participant="fe008">
      that - what it shows is motivation to do as many hours as possible.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="517.498" EndTime="518.676" Participant="me011">
      It'll keep your accuracy up.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="518.815" EndTime="519.094" Participant="me011">
      Yep.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="519.502" EndTime="519.861" Participant="me013">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="520.399" EndTime="520.686" Participant="me013">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="520.544" EndTime="521.588" Participant="fe008">
      And they're really excellent.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="520.825" EndTime="521.323" Participant="me013">
      Well, that's good.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="521.884" EndTime="522.237" Participant="fe008">
      Yeah. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="522.658" EndTime="523.872" Participant="me013">
      Yeah, I mean, I guess the -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="522.988" EndTime="524.031" Participant="fe008">
      Got a good core group now.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="524.131" EndTime="526.203" Participant="me013">
      So the difference if - if, um,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="526.500" EndTime="528.036" Participant="me013">
      if the I_B_M stuff works out,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="527.654" EndTime="528.006" Participant="fe008">
      Again. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="528.096" EndTime="531.722" Participant="me013">
      the difference in the job would be that they p- primarily would be
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="531.881" EndTime="533.873" Participant="me013">
      checking through things that were
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="533.383" EndTime="533.633" Participant="fe008">
      Mm-hmm. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="534.929" EndTime="537.224" Participant="me013">
      already done by someone else? Is that most of what it - ?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="536.400" EndTime="537.232" Participant="me011">
      And correcting.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="537.224" EndTime="537.682" Participant="me013">
      <Pause/> I mean -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="537.682" EndTime="538.214" Participant="me013">
      Correcting.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="537.750" EndTime="542.193" Participant="me011">
      Correcting. We'll - we'll expect that they'll have to move some time bins and do some corrections.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="542.064" EndTime="542.508" Participant="fe008">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="542.508" EndTime="544.371" Participant="fe008">
      And I - you know, I've also d- uh, discovered -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="544.530" EndTime="546.097" Participant="fe008">
      So with the new transcriber I'm -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="546.494" EndTime="546.881" Participant="fe008">
      um -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="546.971" EndTime="547.210" Participant="fe008">
      So -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="547.551" EndTime="548.402" Participant="fe008">
      Uh, lemme say that
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="548.720" EndTime="549.016" Participant="fe008">
      my,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="549.186" EndTime="549.504" Participant="fe008">
      uh -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="550.816" EndTime="551.174" Participant="fe008">
      So,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="551.549" EndTime="551.856" Participant="fe008">
      um -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="551.856" EndTime="552.083" Participant="fe008">
      <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="552.367" EndTime="556.894" Participant="fe008">
      At present, um, the people have been doing these transcriptions a channel at a time.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="555.820" EndTime="556.199" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="clears throat"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="556.894" EndTime="563.239" Participant="fe008">
      And, that sort of, um, <VocalSound Description="breath"/> is useful, and t- you know, and then once in a while they'll have to refer to the other channels to clear something up.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="563.239" EndTime="563.739" Participant="fe008">
      <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="563.739" EndTime="564.205" Participant="fe008">
      O_K. Well,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="564.205" EndTime="564.613" Participant="fe008">
      <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="564.613" EndTime="565.817" Participant="fe008">
      I realize that, um,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="566.611" EndTime="568.553" Participant="fe008">
      w- i- we- we're using the pre-segmented version,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="568.846" EndTime="569.791" Participant="fe008">
      and, um,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="570.542" EndTime="572.924" Participant="fe008">
      the pre-segmented version is extremely useful,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="572.924" EndTime="573.151" Participant="fe008">
      <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="573.151" EndTime="574.071" Participant="fe008">
      and wouldn't it be,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="574.162" EndTime="577.490" Participant="fe008">
      useful also to have the <Emphasis> visual </Emphasis> representation of those segments?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="577.490" EndTime="577.842" Participant="fe008">
      <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="577.842" EndTime="578.783" Participant="fe008">
      And so I've -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="578.783" EndTime="579.737" Participant="fe008">
      <Pause/> uh, <Pause/> I,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="580.168" EndTime="581.837" Participant="fe008">
      uh, uh, I've <Comment Description="creaky voice"/> <Emphasis> trained </Emphasis> the new one -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="582.121" EndTime="583.490" Participant="fe008">
      uh, the new- the newest one,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="583.490" EndTime="583.877" Participant="fe008">
      <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="583.877" EndTime="584.717" Participant="fe008">
      to, um,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="584.717" EndTime="585.148" Participant="fe008">
      <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="585.148" EndTime="586.117" Participant="fe008">
      use the
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="586.492" EndTime="587.540" Participant="fe008">
      visual from
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="588.138" EndTime="591.093" Participant="fe008">
      the channel that is gonna be transcribed at any given time.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="591.430" EndTime="593.079" Participant="fe008">
      And that's just <Emphasis> amazingly </Emphasis> helpful.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="593.079" EndTime="593.329" Participant="fe008">
      <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="593.329" EndTime="599.016" Participant="fe008">
      Because what happens <Emphasis> then, </Emphasis> is you scan across the signal and once in a while you'll find a blip that didn't show up in the pre-segmentation.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="598.612" EndTime="598.752" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="mouth"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="598.752" EndTime="599.945" Participant="me011">
      Oh, right. I see what you mean.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="599.016" EndTime="599.402" Participant="fe008">
      <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="599.402" EndTime="600.512" Participant="fe008">
      And that'll be something like -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="600.512" EndTime="600.773" Participant="fe008">
      <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="600.773" EndTime="602.079" Participant="fe008">
      I- it's <Uncertain> ver- </Uncertain> - it's interesting.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="601.579" EndTime="602.675" Participant="me011">
      A backchannel, or -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="602.079" EndTime="602.325" Participant="fe008">
      <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="602.325" EndTime="604.838" Participant="fe008">
      Once in a while it's a backchannel. Sometimes it seems to be,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="602.891" EndTime="603.204" Participant="mn014">
      Yep. <Comment Description="creaky voice"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="605.002" EndTime="605.325" Participant="fe008">
      um,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="605.417" EndTime="607.327" Participant="fe008">
      <Emphasis> similar </Emphasis> to the ones that are being picked up.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="607.327" EndTime="607.929" Participant="fe008">
      <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="607.375" EndTime="607.813" Participant="me011">
      Mm-hmm.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="607.929" EndTime="611.833" Participant="fe008">
      And they're rare events, but you can <Emphasis> really </Emphasis> go through a meeting <Emphasis> very </Emphasis> quickly. You just - you just,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="612.078" EndTime="612.427" Participant="fe008">
      you know,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="612.542" EndTime="613.015" Participant="fe008">
      yo- you s-
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="613.072" EndTime="615.965" Participant="fe008">
      you <Pronounce Pronunciation="&quot;scroll-ul&quot;"> scroll  </Pronounce> from screen to screen, looking for blips.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="616.450" EndTime="616.849" Participant="fe008">
      And,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="616.717" EndTime="617.193" Participant="me013">
      <Pronounce Pronunciation="&quot;nn-yeah&quot;"> Yeah.  </Pronounce>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="616.849" EndTime="619.848" Participant="fe008">
      I think that we're gonna end up with, uh <Pause/> better coverage of the backchannels,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="619.848" EndTime="620.109" Participant="fe008">
      <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="620.109" EndTime="621.490" Participant="fe008">
      but at the same time we're benefitting
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="621.490" EndTime="623.398" Participant="fe008">
      tremendously from the pre-segmentation because
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="623.398" EndTime="623.783" Participant="fe008">
      <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="623.783" EndTime="625.876" Participant="fe008">
      there are <Emphasis> huge </Emphasis> places where there is just absolutely
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="626.128" EndTime="626.531" Participant="fe008">
      no
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="626.724" EndTime="627.640" Participant="fe008">
      activity at all.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="627.793" EndTime="628.291" Participant="me013">
      Mm-hmm.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="628.144" EndTime="630.009" Participant="fe008">
      And, uh, the audio quality is <Emphasis> so </Emphasis> good -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="629.288" EndTime="630.851" Participant="me018">
      So they can - they can, um,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="631.312" EndTime="632.734" Participant="me018">
      scroll through that pretty quick?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="632.841" EndTime="633.159" Participant="fe008">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="633.235" EndTime="633.546" Participant="fe008">
      Mm-hmm.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="633.315" EndTime="633.916" Participant="me018">
      That's great.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="633.975" EndTime="634.294" Participant="fe008">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="635.370" EndTime="636.417" Participant="fe008">
      So I think that that's gonna,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="636.713" EndTime="639.293" Participant="fe008">
      also <Pause/> eh, <Comment Description="creaky voice"/> you know, speed the efficiency of this
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="639.461" EndTime="640.361" Participant="fe008">
      part of the process.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="643.083" EndTime="643.701" Participant="me013">
      Hmm. O_K.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="645.494" EndTime="646.510" Participant="me013">
      Uh, yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="648.721" EndTime="650.076" Participant="me013">
      So, uh -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="650.754" EndTime="652.766" Participant="me013">
      Yeah. So let's talk about the digits, since they're not here yet.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="652.052" EndTime="652.530" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="652.530" EndTime="653.098" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="653.098" EndTime="653.855" Participant="me011">
      Uh, so,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="654.154" EndTime="657.043" Participant="me011">
      we have a whole bunch of digits that we've read and we have the forms and so on,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="657.082" EndTime="659.294" Participant="me011">
      um, but only a small number of that ha-
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="659.354" EndTime="660.552" Participant="me011">
      well, not a <Emphasis> small </Emphasis> number -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="660.552" EndTime="660.882" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="660.882" EndTime="661.333" Participant="me011">
      only
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="661.388" EndTime="664.230" Participant="me011">
      a <Emphasis> subset </Emphasis> of that has been transcribed. And so we need to decide
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="664.230" EndTime="665.140" Participant="me011">
      what we wanna <Emphasis> do. </Emphasis>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="665.140" EndTime="665.585" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="665.585" EndTime="666.462" Participant="me011">
      And, uh,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="666.462" EndTime="668.300" Participant="me011">
      Liz and Andreas - actually they're not here, but,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="668.356" EndTime="672.423" Participant="me011">
      they did say at one point that they thought they could do a pretty good job of just doing a forced alignment.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="672.646" EndTime="673.203" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="673.277" EndTime="673.872" Participant="me011">
      And,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="674.039" EndTime="676.682" Participant="me011">
      again, I don't think we'll be able to do with that <Emphasis> alone, </Emphasis>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="677.109" EndTime="681.028" Participant="me011">
      because, um, sometimes people correct themselves and things like that.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="681.826" EndTime="684.427" Participant="me011">
      But - so, I was just wondering what people thought about
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="684.517" EndTime="688.716" Participant="me011">
      how automated can we make the <Emphasis> process </Emphasis> of finding where the people read the digits,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="688.921" EndTime="691.000" Participant="me011">
      doing a forced alignment, and doing the timing.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="691.071" EndTime="691.614" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="691.614" EndTime="694.654" Participant="me013">
      Well, forced alignment would be one thing. What about just actually doing recognition?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="694.780" EndTime="695.273" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="695.273" EndTime="698.168" Participant="me011">
      Well, we - we <Emphasis> know </Emphasis> what they read, because we have the forms.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="697.797" EndTime="698.976" Participant="me013">
      No, they make mistakes.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="699.319" EndTime="699.753" Participant="me011">
      Right.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="700.125" EndTime="700.366" Participant="me011">
      But,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="700.440" EndTime="703.123" Participant="me011">
      the <Emphasis> point </Emphasis> is that we wanna <Emphasis> get </Emphasis> a set of clean
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="703.959" EndTime="704.586" Participant="me011">
      digits.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="706.188" EndTime="706.658" Participant="me013">
      Right.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="706.363" EndTime="708.373" Participant="me018">
      You're talking about as a <Emphasis> pre-processing </Emphasis> step. Right, Morgan?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="709.108" EndTime="709.666" Participant="me013">
      Um -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="710.474" EndTime="711.175" Participant="me018">
      Is that what you're - ?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="710.572" EndTime="712.760" Participant="me013">
      Yeah, I'm - I'm not quite sure what I'm talking about. I mean -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="712.699" EndTime="713.108" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="712.760" EndTime="713.537" Participant="me013">
      I - <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="713.597" EndTime="714.095" Participant="me013">
      I mean,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="714.195" EndTime="717.044" Participant="me013">
      uh, we're talking about digits now. And - and so,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="717.801" EndTime="718.458" Participant="me013">
      um,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="719.242" EndTime="720.893" Participant="me013">
      there's a bunch of stuff that hasn't been
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="721.511" EndTime="722.330" Participant="me013">
      marked yet.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="722.529" EndTime="723.027" Participant="me013">
      <Pronounce Pronunciation="&quot;uh&quot;+&quot;yeah&quot;"> Uh.  </Pronounce>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="723.027" EndTime="723.605" Participant="me013">
      And,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="723.924" EndTime="724.641" Participant="me013">
      um, <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="723.959" EndTime="725.068" Participant="me011">
      I mean, so one option i-
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="724.641" EndTime="725.418" Participant="me013">
      there's the issue that -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="725.518" EndTime="726.654" Participant="me013">
      that they - we know what -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="727.032" EndTime="727.710" Participant="me013">
      what was said,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="727.789" EndTime="729.104" Participant="me013">
      but do we? Because people
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="729.523" EndTime="730.566" Participant="me013">
      make mistakes and stuff.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="730.566" EndTime="730.865" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="730.865" EndTime="733.854" Participant="me013">
      I was just <Emphasis> asking, </Emphasis> just out of curiosity, if - if with, uh -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="734.372" EndTime="737.164" Participant="me013">
      uh, the S_R_I recognizer getting one percent word error,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="737.164" EndTime="737.642" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="737.642" EndTime="738.180" Participant="me013">
      <NonVocalSound Description="door noise"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="738.180" EndTime="738.593" Participant="me013">
      uh,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="739.576" EndTime="740.254" Participant="me013">
      would we -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="739.904" EndTime="746.392" Participant="fe016">
      <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="740.353" EndTime="741.768" Participant="me013">
      would we do <Pause/> <Emphasis> better </Emphasis> - ?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="742.127" EndTime="748.203" Participant="me013">
      So, if you do a forced alignment but the force- but the - but the transcription you have is wrong because they actually made mistakes, uh, or
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="746.788" EndTime="749.084" Participant="fe016">
      <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="747.959" EndTime="748.187" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="748.187" EndTime="749.509" Participant="me011">
      But that's pretty uncommon.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="748.203" EndTime="748.562" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="748.562" EndTime="749.379" Participant="me013">
      false starts,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="749.678" EndTime="750.953" Participant="me013">
      it's - it's much less c-
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="750.953" EndTime="751.540" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="751.540" EndTime="753.870" Participant="me013">
      it's <Pause/> much less common than one percent?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="753.266" EndTime="753.455" Participant="mn017">
      <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="754.602" EndTime="755.110" Participant="mn017">
      <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="755.355" EndTime="755.798" Participant="me011">
      Um,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="755.533" EndTime="756.051" Participant="mn014">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="755.798" EndTime="758.045" Participant="me011">
      if we could really get one percent on -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="758.814" EndTime="760.221" Participant="mn017">
      <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="759.209" EndTime="759.618" Participant="me011">
      Well,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="759.589" EndTime="760.565" Participant="me013">
      We should be able to. Right?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="759.618" EndTime="761.531" Participant="me011">
      I guess - yeah, I guess if we <Emphasis> segmented </Emphasis> it,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="760.425" EndTime="761.325" Participant="mn017">
      <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="760.862" EndTime="761.263" Participant="me018">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="761.457" EndTime="761.994" Participant="mn017">
      <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="761.531" EndTime="763.239" Participant="me011">
      we could get one percent on digits.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="762.430" EndTime="762.924" Participant="mn017">
      <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="763.098" EndTime="763.868" Participant="mn017">
      <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="763.374" EndTime="763.613" Participant="me013">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="764.275" EndTime="765.161" Participant="mn017">
      <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="764.330" EndTime="767.544" Participant="me013">
      So that's just my question. I'm not saying it should be one way or the other, but it's - If -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="765.050" EndTime="765.332" Participant="me011">
      But, <Comment Description="creaky voice"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="766.235" EndTime="768.632" Participant="mn017">
      <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="766.650" EndTime="767.023" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="767.023" EndTime="768.936" Participant="me011">
      Well, there - there're a couple different of doing it. We could
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="768.951" EndTime="773.184" Participant="mn017">
      <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="769.152" EndTime="772.532" Participant="me011">
      use the tools I've already developed and transcribe it. Hire some people,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="772.532" EndTime="775.596" Participant="me011">
      or use the transcribers to do it. We could let I_B_M transcribe it.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="776.434" EndTime="779.759" Participant="me011">
      You know, they're doing it anyway, and unless we tell them <Emphasis> different, </Emphasis> they're gonna transcribe it.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="777.338" EndTime="777.759" Participant="mn017">
      <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="778.092" EndTime="778.513" Participant="mn017">
      <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="779.210" EndTime="779.573" Participant="mn017">
      <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="779.759" EndTime="779.926" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="779.908" EndTime="781.985" Participant="mn017">
      <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="780.725" EndTime="783.083" Participant="me011">
      Um, or we could try some automated methods.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="782.334" EndTime="784.004" Participant="mn017">
      <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="783.577" EndTime="784.448" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="784.718" EndTime="787.946" Participant="me011">
      And <Emphasis> my </Emphasis> - my tendency right <Emphasis> now </Emphasis> is, well, if I_B_M
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="784.819" EndTime="785.216" Participant="me013">
      Well -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="785.587" EndTime="791.806" Participant="mn017">
      <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="788.095" EndTime="790.453" Participant="me011">
      comes back with this meeting and the transcript is <Emphasis> good, </Emphasis>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="790.695" EndTime="791.789" Participant="me011">
      just let <Emphasis> them </Emphasis> do it. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="791.990" EndTime="792.471" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="792.049" EndTime="795.090" Participant="mn017">
      <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="792.471" EndTime="794.583" Participant="me013">
      Yeah, it's - Y- you raised a point, kind of,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="794.882" EndTime="799.356" Participant="me013">
      uh, euphemistically - but, I mean, m- maybe it is a serious problem. Ho- what will they do when they go - hear
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="799.516" EndTime="802.365" Participant="me013">
      "beep <Pause/> seven <Pause/> beep <Pause/> seven three five two" - I mean,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="802.365" EndTime="803.021" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="803.021" EndTime="804.356" Participant="me013">
      you think they'll - we'll get - ?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="803.419" EndTime="804.571" Participant="me011">
      It's pretty distinct.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="804.571" EndTime="806.409" Participant="me011">
      The beeps are <Pause/> pre-recorded.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="804.694" EndTime="804.993" Participant="me013">
      Yeah?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="805.480" EndTime="807.058" Participant="me018">
      It'll <Comment Description="while laughing"/> only be a problem for m- for mine.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="807.513" EndTime="809.523" Participant="me018">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="807.643" EndTime="808.898" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="807.751" EndTime="808.073" Participant="mn014">
      Yeah. <Comment Description="creaky voice"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="808.648" EndTime="808.955" Participant="fe008">
      Well it -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="809.097" EndTime="811.344" Participant="fe008">
      it - well, it'd be preceded by "I'm reading transcript
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="811.792" EndTime="812.364" Participant="fe008">
      so-and-so"?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="812.414" EndTime="812.795" Participant="me018">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="812.538" EndTime="813.204" Participant="me011">
      Yes. <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="813.280" EndTime="813.600" Participant="fe008">
      So,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="813.824" EndTime="814.139" Participant="fe008">
      I
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="814.403" EndTime="815.430" Participant="fe008">
      think if they're processing it at -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="814.462" EndTime="816.888" Participant="me011">
      I mean, it'll be - it will be in the midst of a digit string.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="816.888" EndTime="817.376" Participant="me011">
      So -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="817.172" EndTime="817.571" Participant="me013">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="818.029" EndTime="820.064" Participant="me011">
      I mean it - sure, there - there might be a place where it's
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="820.210" EndTime="822.330" Participant="me011">
      "beep seven <Pause/> beep eight <Pause/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="823.554" EndTime="823.980" Participant="me011">
      beep <Pause/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="824.456" EndTime="825.710" Participant="me011">
      eight <Pause/> beep". <Comment Description="last word while laughing"/> <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="825.710" EndTime="826.088" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="826.088" EndTime="829.268" Participant="me011">
      But, you know, they - they're - they're gonna macros for inserting the beep marks.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="830.048" EndTime="833.695" Participant="me011">
      And so, I - I don't think it'll be a problem. We'll have to see, but I don't think it's gonna be a problem.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="834.613" EndTime="834.951" Participant="me013">
      O_K.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="835.071" EndTime="839.653" Participant="me013">
      Well, I - I - I dunno, I - I think that that's - if they are in fact going to transcribe these things,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="840.211" EndTime="841.013" Participant="me013">
      uh,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="841.013" EndTime="842.881" Participant="me013">
      certainly any process that we'd have to
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="843.583" EndTime="847.184" Participant="me013">
      correct them, or whatever is - needs to be much less elaborate for digits than
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="846.999" EndTime="847.295" Participant="me011">
      Right.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="847.304" EndTime="848.939" Participant="me013">
      for other stuff. So, why not?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="848.999" EndTime="849.338" Participant="me013">
      Sure.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="852.223" EndTime="852.582" Participant="me013">
      That was it?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="852.690" EndTime="853.080" Participant="me011">
      That was it.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="852.793" EndTime="853.604" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="853.275" EndTime="853.494" Participant="me011">
      Just,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="853.543" EndTime="855.407" Participant="me011">
      what do we do with digits? We have so many of them,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="854.216" EndTime="854.614" Participant="me013">
      O_K.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="855.407" EndTime="855.968" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="855.647" EndTime="855.938" Participant="mn017">
      <VocalSound Description="cough-laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="855.730" EndTime="856.347" Participant="me013">
      Well, we - we -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="855.968" EndTime="858.051" Participant="me011">
      and it'd be nice to <Pause/> actually do something with them.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="856.606" EndTime="857.443" Participant="me013">
      we wanna have <Pronounce Pronunciation="&quot;em&quot;"> them.  </Pronounce>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="858.015" EndTime="858.915" Participant="mn017">
      You mean there're more than ten?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="858.121" EndTime="858.479" Participant="me013">
      Yeah, I -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="859.036" EndTime="859.536" Participant="me011">
      <Uncertain> Anything else? </Uncertain> <Comment Description="quietly"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="859.675" EndTime="860.728" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="859.816" EndTime="861.806" Participant="mn017">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="859.819" EndTime="863.453" Participant="me018">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="861.339" EndTime="862.815" Participant="me011">
      Your mike is a little low there.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="862.800" EndTime="863.767" Participant="me013">
      I- in Berkeley, yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="863.916" EndTime="864.365" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="864.365" EndTime="865.381" Participant="me013">
      So, <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="865.097" EndTime="865.899" Participant="me018">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="866.179" EndTime="867.627" Participant="me018">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> <VocalSound Description="quiet laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="866.367" EndTime="867.247" Participant="me011">
      <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="866.463" EndTime="867.101" Participant="me013">
      uh <Pause/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="866.951" EndTime="868.948" Participant="mn017">
      <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="867.380" EndTime="869.093" Participant="me013">
      You - you have to go a <Pronounce Pronunciation="&quot;lill&quot;"> little  </Pronounce> early, right?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="869.250" EndTime="871.196" Participant="mn017">
      Well, I can stay till about, uh,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="869.651" EndTime="870.790" Participant="me013">
      At twenty - <VocalSound Description="outbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="872.038" EndTime="872.489" Participant="mn017">
      three forty.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="873.105" EndTime="875.057" Participant="me013">
      Alright. So le- let's make sure we do the ones that -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="873.605" EndTime="873.852" Participant="mn017">
      Yeah. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="874.912" EndTime="875.232" Participant="mn017">
      Mm-hmm.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="875.197" EndTime="876.014" Participant="me013">
      that, uh,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="876.392" EndTime="877.267" Participant="me013">
      saved you. So there was some -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="877.546" EndTime="878.044" Participant="me013">
      Uh <Pause/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="878.044" EndTime="878.502" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="sniff"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="878.502" EndTime="878.861" Participant="me013">
      In -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="878.960" EndTime="879.404" Participant="me013">
      in -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="879.623" EndTime="883.745" Participant="me013">
      Adam's agenda list, he had something from you about segmentation this last recognition?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="882.860" EndTime="883.019" Participant="me011">
      <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="883.336" EndTime="883.847" Participant="me011">
      <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="884.260" EndTime="885.495" Participant="mn017">
      Well, yeah. So this is just
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="884.677" EndTime="884.974" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="cough"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="885.567" EndTime="885.825" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="cough"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="885.612" EndTime="885.856" Participant="me011">
      <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="885.916" EndTime="887.180" Participant="mn017">
      partly to inform everybody,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="885.978" EndTime="886.465" Participant="me011">
      Oops. <Comment Description="interjection"/> <Comment Description="quietly"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="887.267" EndTime="887.623" Participant="mn017">
      um,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="887.793" EndTime="888.839" Participant="mn017">
      and - and of course to get,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="888.061" EndTime="888.183" Participant="me011">
      <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="888.317" EndTime="888.609" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="cough"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="889.113" EndTime="889.453" Participant="mn017">
      um,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="889.325" EndTime="889.422" Participant="me011">
      <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="889.654" EndTime="889.776" Participant="me011">
      <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="889.752" EndTime="890.118" Participant="mn017">
      input.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="890.007" EndTime="890.153" Participant="me011">
      <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="890.798" EndTime="891.203" Participant="mn017">
      Um,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="891.439" EndTime="892.230" Participant="mn017">
      so, <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="892.772" EndTime="894.354" Participant="mn017">
      uh, we had a discussion -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="892.942" EndTime="893.052" Participant="me011">
      <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="895.373" EndTime="895.909" Participant="mn017">
      Don and
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="895.694" EndTime="895.865" Participant="me011">
      <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="896.184" EndTime="897.852" Participant="mn017">
      Liz and I had discussion last week about
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="898.571" EndTime="899.722" Participant="mn017">
      how to proceed with, uh,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="900.303" EndTime="900.622" Participant="mn014">
      Ch-
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="900.689" EndTime="901.867" Participant="mn017">
      you know, with <Emphasis> Don's </Emphasis> work, and -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="901.867" EndTime="902.569" Participant="mn017">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="902.569" EndTime="904.064" Participant="mn017">
      and - and, uh, one of
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="904.221" EndTime="905.143" Participant="mn017">
      the obvious
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="906.071" EndTime="906.881" Participant="mn017">
      things that
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="907.221" EndTime="908.450" Participant="mn017">
      occur to us was that
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="908.607" EndTime="910.285" Participant="mn017">
      we're - since we now have Thilo's
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="909.880" EndTime="910.360" Participant="fe016">
      <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="910.285" EndTime="911.631" Participant="mn017">
      segmenter and it works,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="910.892" EndTime="911.840" Participant="fe016">
      <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="911.710" EndTime="912.860" Participant="mn017">
      you know, amazingly well,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="912.860" EndTime="913.370" Participant="mn017">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="913.370" EndTime="913.931" Participant="mn017">
      um,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="914.506" EndTime="915.525" Participant="mn017">
      we should actually
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="915.721" EndTime="917.643" Participant="mn017">
      basically re-evaluate the recognition,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="918.140" EndTime="918.623" Participant="mn017">
      um,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="918.850" EndTime="919.232" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="cough"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="919.107" EndTime="919.807" Participant="mn017">
      results
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="919.807" EndTime="922.058" Participant="mn017">
      using - you know, without cheating on the segmentations.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="922.895" EndTime="924.509" Participant="mn017">
      And, that should be fairly -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="923.243" EndTime="923.793" Participant="mn014">
      So -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="923.319" EndTime="923.429" Participant="me011">
      <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="924.710" EndTime="928.234" Participant="mn014">
      And how do we find the transcripts for <Pronounce Pronunciation="long /s/"> those  </Pronounce> so that - ?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="928.533" EndTime="928.812" Participant="mn014">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="928.773" EndTime="929.519" Participant="mn017">
      Oh, O_K.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="928.972" EndTime="931.084" Participant="mn014">
      The references for - for <Pause/> those segments?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="929.759" EndTime="931.113" Participant="mn017">
      So, there's actually -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="931.761" EndTime="933.773" Participant="mn014">
      It's not that - <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="931.930" EndTime="932.408" Participant="mn017">
      Why do you ask?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="932.408" EndTime="933.026" Participant="mn017">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="933.026" EndTime="934.520" Participant="mn017">
      No, actually, um,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="933.034" EndTime="933.569" Participant="me011">
      I could -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="934.029" EndTime="934.535" Participant="fe016">
      Well -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="934.127" EndTime="934.562" Participant="mn014">
      <VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="934.239" EndTime="934.946" Participant="me011">
      Hand ones.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="934.748" EndTime="935.348" Participant="mn017">
      NIST
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="935.348" EndTime="935.890" Participant="mn017">
      has,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="936.013" EndTime="936.304" Participant="mn017">
      um
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="936.415" EndTime="936.660" Participant="mn017">
      m-
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="937.311" EndTime="939.264" Participant="mn017">
      a fairly sophisticated scoring program
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="939.252" EndTime="939.671" Participant="mn014">
      O_K.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="939.264" EndTime="939.674" Participant="mn017">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="939.674" EndTime="941.464" Participant="mn017">
      that you can give a, um -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="942.359" EndTime="942.527" Participant="mn017">
      <VocalSound Description="mouth"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="942.672" EndTime="943.365" Participant="mn017">
      a time,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="944.450" EndTime="945.222" Participant="mn017">
      uh -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="946.512" EndTime="949.967" Participant="mn017">
      You know, you basically just give two <Pause/> time-marked sequences of words,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="949.967" EndTime="950.291" Participant="mn017">
      and it
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="950.370" EndTime="951.041" Participant="mn017">
      computes
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="951.198" EndTime="951.533" Participant="mn017">
      the
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="952.296" EndTime="952.811" Participant="mn017">
      um -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="953.348" EndTime="953.941" Participant="mn017">
      the, <Comment Description="creaky voice"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="954.052" EndTime="954.701" Participant="mn017">
      uh - <Comment Description="creaky voice"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="954.791" EndTime="955.071" Participant="mn017">
      you know,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="955.196" EndTime="956.304" Participant="me018">
      It does all the work for you.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="955.216" EndTime="957.017" Participant="mn017">
      the - the - th- it does all the work for you.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="956.587" EndTime="957.188" Participant="fe016">
      <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="957.165" EndTime="957.486" Participant="me018">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="957.290" EndTime="957.689" Participant="mn014">
      O_K.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="957.994" EndTime="961.037" Participant="mn017">
      So, it - we just - and we use that actually in Hub-five
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="961.223" EndTime="962.006" Participant="mn017">
      to do the scoring.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="962.655" EndTime="966.696" Participant="mn017">
      Um. So what we've been using so far was sort of a <Pause/> simplified version of the scoring.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="967.206" EndTime="967.844" Participant="mn017">
      And we can -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="967.990" EndTime="968.850" Participant="mn017">
      we can handle the -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="969.030" EndTime="969.459" Participant="mn017">
      the - the
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="969.627" EndTime="970.724" Participant="mn017">
      type of problem we have here.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="971.138" EndTime="971.741" Participant="mn017">
      So, we ha-
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="971.214" EndTime="976.624" Participant="mn014">
      So, basically you give some time constraints for - for the references and for - for the hypothesis, and - Yeah, O_K.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="973.337" EndTime="975.038" Participant="fe016">
      <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="973.789" EndTime="974.019" Participant="mn017">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="974.701" EndTime="974.903" Participant="mn017">
      Right.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="975.630" EndTime="975.820" Participant="mn017">
      Right.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="975.862" EndTime="979.791" Participant="fe016">
      Yeah. Maybe the <Pause/> start of your speech and the end of it, or stuff like that.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="976.368" EndTime="976.726" Participant="mn017">
      So do-
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="979.282" EndTime="979.601" Participant="mn014">
      O_K. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="979.725" EndTime="979.893" Participant="mn017">
      Right.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="979.791" EndTime="980.246" Participant="fe016">
      <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="979.982" EndTime="981.749" Participant="mn017">
      It does time-constrained word-alignment.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="981.830" EndTime="982.211" Participant="mn014">
      O_K.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="982.114" EndTime="982.427" Participant="mn017">
      So.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="983.390" EndTime="983.513" Participant="mn017">
      <VocalSound Description="mouth"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="984.397" EndTime="984.811" Participant="mn017">
      So that
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="984.878" EndTime="985.739" Participant="mn017">
      should be possible.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="985.963" EndTime="986.713" Participant="mn017">
      I mean that shouldn't be a
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="986.914" EndTime="987.227" Participant="mn017">
      problem.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="988.078" EndTime="991.103" Participant="mn017">
      Uh, so that was the one thing, and the other was that, um -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="992.335" EndTime="993.340" Participant="mn017">
      What was the other problem? Oh!
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="993.340" EndTime="993.693" Participant="mn017">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="993.693" EndTime="993.872" Participant="mn017">
      That
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="994.510" EndTime="999.430" Participant="mn017">
      Thilo wanted to use <Pause/> the recognizer alignments to train up his, um, speech detector.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="999.672" EndTime="1000.047" Participant="mn014">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1000.194" EndTime="1000.799" Participant="mn017">
      Um,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1000.888" EndTime="1001.235" Participant="mn017">
      so that
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1001.671" EndTime="1002.589" Participant="mn017">
      we could use,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1002.589" EndTime="1004.547" Participant="mn017">
      uh - you know there wouldn't be so much hand
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1004.547" EndTime="1005.005" Participant="mn017">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1005.005" EndTime="1005.923" Participant="mn017">
      labeling needed
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1006.203" EndTime="1007.298" Participant="mn017">
      to, uh -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1007.298" EndTime="1009.837" Participant="mn017">
      to generate training data for - for the speech detector.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1009.232" EndTime="1011.334" Participant="mn014">
      Yeah. I'm just in progress of - of doing that. So.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1011.314" EndTime="1013.087" Participant="mn017">
      And I think you're in the <Pronounce Pronunciation="&quot;pros&quot;"> process  </Pronounce> of doing that. So,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1012.823" EndTime="1013.082" Participant="mn014">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1013.304" EndTime="1013.629" Participant="mn017">
      you can - <Comment Description="quietly"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1013.757" EndTime="1015.218" Participant="me018">
      It'll give you a lot more data, too. Won't it?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1013.997" EndTime="1014.355" Participant="mn017">
      you can -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1015.174" EndTime="1015.393" Participant="mn014">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1015.851" EndTime="1016.987" Participant="mn014">
      So, it's basically -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1017.170" EndTime="1017.296" Participant="mn014">
      s- <Comment Description="very quietly"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1017.405" EndTime="1019.983" Participant="mn014">
      I think, eight meetings or something which - which I'm using, and,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1019.927" EndTime="1020.284" Participant="mn017">
      Mm-hmm.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1019.983" EndTime="1020.954" Participant="mn014">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1020.954" EndTime="1021.357" Participant="mn014">
      it's -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1021.357" EndTime="1021.656" Participant="mn014">
      <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1021.656" EndTime="1023.951" Participant="mn014">
      before it was twenty minutes of one meeting. So -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1023.942" EndTime="1024.155" Participant="mn017">
      Right.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1024.437" EndTime="1025.407" Participant="mn014">
      should <Comment Description="very quietly"/> be a little bit better.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1024.983" EndTime="1027.047" Participant="mn017">
      That won't be perfect - the alignments aren't perfect,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1024.994" EndTime="1025.415" Participant="me018">
      Great.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1027.216" EndTime="1027.738" Participant="mn014">
      Yeah. But -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1027.226" EndTime="1027.517" Participant="mn017">
      but,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1027.685" EndTime="1028.200" Participant="mn017">
      um,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1027.823" EndTime="1028.369" Participant="fe016">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1028.200" EndTime="1030.484" Participant="mn017">
      it's probably still <Emphasis> better </Emphasis> to have all this extra data,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1029.306" EndTime="1029.530" Participant="mn014">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1030.276" EndTime="1030.538" Participant="mn014">
      Yep.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1030.573" EndTime="1030.797" Participant="mn017">
      than - Yeah. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1031.618" EndTime="1032.682" Participant="mn014">
      We'll see that. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1032.619" EndTime="1032.798" Participant="mn017">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1035.790" EndTime="1036.308" Participant="me013">
      <Pronounce Pronunciation="&quot;mm-kay&quot;"> O_K.  </Pronounce>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1036.187" EndTime="1039.290" Participant="fe016">
      Actually, I had a question about that. If you find that you can
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1039.507" EndTime="1039.817" Participant="fe016">
      <VocalSound Description="mouth"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1039.817" EndTime="1041.811" Participant="fe016">
      lower the false alarms
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1041.920" EndTime="1042.866" Participant="fe016">
      that you get
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1043.066" EndTime="1044.795" Participant="fe016">
      where there's no speech, that would be
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1044.867" EndTime="1046.723" Participant="fe016">
      useful <Pause/> for us to know. So,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1045.631" EndTime="1045.802" Participant="me011">
      <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1047.870" EndTime="1048.273" Participant="fe016">
      um -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1047.878" EndTime="1049.612" Participant="mn014">
      There were the false alarms. <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1049.201" EndTime="1049.904" Participant="fe016">
      Yeah. So,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1050.049" EndTime="1050.868" Participant="fe016">
      <VocalSound Description="clears throat"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1051.268" EndTime="1052.353" Participant="fe016">
      r- right now you get f-
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1052.109" EndTime="1052.484" Participant="mn014">
      O_K.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1052.353" EndTime="1055.955" Participant="fe016">
      fal- you know, false - false, uh, speech regions when it's just like, um,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1055.059" EndTime="1055.302" Participant="mn014">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1055.955" EndTime="1056.412" Participant="fe016">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1056.412" EndTime="1058.777" Participant="fe016">
      breath or something like that, and I'd be interested to know the -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1057.578" EndTime="1057.765" Participant="mn014">
      Yep.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1059.377" EndTime="1060.736" Participant="fe016">
      wha- if you retrain
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1060.863" EndTime="1061.336" Participant="fe016">
      um,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1061.548" EndTime="1061.809" Participant="mn014">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1061.664" EndTime="1064.436" Participant="fe016">
      do those actually go down or not? Because <Pause/> <Uncertain> of </Uncertain> -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1063.489" EndTime="1065.177" Participant="mn014">
      Yeah. I'll - can make - an-
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1065.177" EndTime="1069.563" Participant="mn014">
      can, like, make a c- comparison of - of the old system to the - to the new one, and <Pause/> then - Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1068.041" EndTime="1072.990" Participant="fe016">
      Yeah, just to see if by doing nothing in the modeling of - just having that training data wh- what happens.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1071.754" EndTime="1072.053" Participant="mn014">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1072.834" EndTime="1073.114" Participant="mn014">
      Yep.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1074.987" EndTime="1075.501" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="mouth"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1075.877" EndTime="1077.343" Participant="me013">
      Um <Pronounce Pronunciation="&quot;nother&quot;"> another  </Pronounce> one that we had on
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1078.120" EndTime="1079.473" Participant="me013">
      Adam's agenda <Pause/> that
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1079.652" EndTime="1081.904" Participant="me013">
      definitely involved you was s- something about SmartKom?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1080.975" EndTime="1082.162" Participant="me001">
      <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1082.791" EndTime="1083.461" Participant="me011">
      Right. So,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1083.522" EndTime="1085.118" Participant="me011">
      Rob <Pronounce Pronunciation="&quot;pore-*zell&quot;, final stress"> Porzel  </Pronounce> - eh, <Pronounce Pronunciation="&quot;*pore-zul&quot;, initial stress"> Porzel?  </Pronounce>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1085.287" EndTime="1086.218" Participant="me011">
      and the, uh -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1085.788" EndTime="1086.261" Participant="mn017">
      Porzel.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1086.433" EndTime="1086.914" Participant="me011">
      <Pronounce Pronunciation="&quot;pur-tsul&quot;"> Porzel  </Pronounce> -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1086.669" EndTime="1088.279" Participant="mn014">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1086.988" EndTime="1088.129" Participant="mn017">
      Porzel. <Comment Description="quietly"/> <Comment Description="while laughing"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1087.353" EndTime="1088.145" Participant="me011">
      and the, uh,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1087.978" EndTime="1088.895" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1088.454" EndTime="1093.030" Participant="me011">
      SmartKom group are collecting some dialogues. Basically they have one person sitting in here,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1093.774" EndTime="1097.015" Participant="me011">
      looking at a picture, and a wizard sitting in another room somewhere.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1097.129" EndTime="1097.531" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1097.648" EndTime="1099.821" Participant="me011">
      And, uh, they're doing a travel task.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1100.199" EndTime="1101.069" Participant="me011">
      And, uh,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1101.519" EndTime="1104.322" Participant="me011">
      it involves starting - I believe starting with a -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1104.711" EndTime="1109.974" Participant="me011">
      It's - it's always the wizard, but it starts where the wizard is pretending to be a computer and it goes through a, uh,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1109.974" EndTime="1110.205" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1110.205" EndTime="1111.631" Participant="me011">
      speech generation system.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1111.595" EndTime="1115.064" Participant="mn014">
      Yeah. Actually, it's changed to a synthesis for - for the first part now. Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1113.520" EndTime="1114.544" Participant="me011">
      Synthesis system.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1115.333" EndTime="1116.434" Participant="me011">
      Um, and then,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1116.434" EndTime="1117.896" Participant="me011">
      it goes to a real wizard and they're
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1117.933" EndTime="1120.163" Participant="me011">
      <Emphasis> evaluating </Emphasis> that. And they wanted to use this equipment,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1120.640" EndTime="1125.149" Participant="me011">
      and so the w- <Emphasis> question </Emphasis> came up, is - well, here's some more data. Should this be part of the <Emphasis> corpus </Emphasis> or not?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1126.110" EndTime="1128.998" Participant="me011">
      And <Emphasis> my </Emphasis> attitude was <Emphasis> yes, </Emphasis> because there might be people
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1129.093" EndTime="1133.273" Participant="me011">
      who are using this corpus for <Pause/> acoustics, as opposed to just for language.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1133.989" EndTime="1136.499" Participant="me011">
      Um, or also for <Emphasis> dialogue </Emphasis> of various sorts.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1137.206" EndTime="1137.945" Participant="me011">
      Um, so it's not
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1138.116" EndTime="1139.541" Participant="me011">
      a <Emphasis> meeting. </Emphasis> Right? Because it's
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1139.639" EndTime="1141.526" Participant="me011">
      two people and they're not face to face.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1141.501" EndTime="1142.120" Participant="me013">
      Wait a minute. <Comment Description="faster tempo"/> So,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1141.759" EndTime="1142.039" Participant="mn014">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1142.120" EndTime="1143.475" Participant="me013">
      I just wanted to understand it, cuz I -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1143.475" EndTime="1143.793" Participant="me013">
      I'm -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1144.152" EndTime="1145.584" Participant="me013">
      uh, hadn't quite followed this
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1146.600" EndTime="1147.684" Participant="me013">
      process. Um.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1148.182" EndTime="1148.792" Participant="me013">
      So,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1148.931" EndTime="1152.378" Participant="me013">
      it's wizard in the sen- usual sense that the person who is
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1152.378" EndTime="1156.244" Participant="me013">
      asking the questions doesn't know that it's, uh, a machi- not a machine?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1154.605" EndTime="1155.008" Participant="mn017">
      Right.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1155.455" EndTime="1156.495" Participant="mn017">
      Actually - actually,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1155.568" EndTime="1156.389" Participant="me011">
      At the beginning. <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1156.495" EndTime="1156.930" Participant="mn017">
      w- w-
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1157.021" EndTime="1160.563" Participant="mn017">
      the - the - We do this - I dunno who came up with it, but I think it's a really clever idea.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1160.977" EndTime="1162.812" Participant="mn017">
      We simulate a computer breakdown
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1163.204" EndTime="1163.574" Participant="me013">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1163.215" EndTime="1164.300" Participant="mn017">
      halfway through the session,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1164.451" EndTime="1165.022" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1164.870" EndTime="1165.836" Participant="mn017">
      and so then after that,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1165.892" EndTime="1167.895" Participant="mn017">
      the person's told that they're now talking to a,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1168.264" EndTime="1168.689" Participant="mn017">
      uh -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1168.396" EndTime="1169.631" Participant="mn014">
      It's a human operator.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1169.029" EndTime="1169.622" Participant="mn017">
      to a human.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1169.877" EndTime="1170.027" Participant="mn014">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1170.082" EndTime="1170.414" Participant="me013">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1170.228" EndTime="1172.876" Participant="me011">
      But of course they don't know that it's the same person both times. <Comment Description="while laughing"/> <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1170.282" EndTime="1174.479" Participant="mn017">
      So, we - we collect - we collect both human-computer and human-human data,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1174.479" EndTime="1175.553" Participant="mn017">
      essentially, in the same
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1176.603" EndTime="1176.883" Participant="mn017">
      session.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1177.786" EndTime="1178.681" Participant="me013">
      <Pronounce Pronunciation="/y/"> You  </Pronounce> might wanna try
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1178.681" EndTime="1186.152" Participant="me013">
      collecting it the other way around sometime, saying that th- the computer isn't up yet and then - so then you can separate it out whether it's the beginning or end kind of effects. But, yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1179.489" EndTime="1181.382" Participant="fe016">
      <VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/> <VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1181.262" EndTime="1181.425" Participant="fe008">
      Hmm. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1184.922" EndTime="1185.627" Participant="mn017">
      That's an idea.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1185.636" EndTime="1185.916" Participant="me011">
      Yep.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1185.884" EndTime="1186.231" Participant="mn017">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1186.152" EndTime="1186.710" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1186.426" EndTime="1187.084" Participant="fe008">
      <Pronounce Pronunciation="reduced"> That's  </Pronounce> a good idea. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1186.710" EndTime="1187.616" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1187.001" EndTime="1189.036" Participant="me011">
      "I have to go now. You can talk to the computer." <Comment Description="while laughing"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1189.097" EndTime="1189.988" Participant="me011">
      "No!" <Comment Description="lengthened"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1189.125" EndTime="1191.093" Participant="me018">
      It's a lot more believable, too, if you tell <Pronounce Pronunciation="&quot;em&quot;"> them  </Pronounce> that they're -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1189.142" EndTime="1191.180" Participant="mn014">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1189.200" EndTime="1190.729" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1189.988" EndTime="1190.960" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1191.354" EndTime="1193.377" Participant="me018">
      the computer part is running on a Windows machine.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1193.377" EndTime="1193.798" Participant="me018">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1193.421" EndTime="1193.940" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1193.566" EndTime="1194.826" Participant="fe016">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1193.725" EndTime="1194.937" Participant="mn017">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1193.768" EndTime="1195.390" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1193.798" EndTime="1195.941" Participant="me018">
      And the whole breakdown thing kinda makes sense.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1195.408" EndTime="1196.650" Participant="fe016">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1195.464" EndTime="1195.632" Participant="mn017">
      O-
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1195.750" EndTime="1196.930" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1195.934" EndTime="1196.236" Participant="mn017">
      Just -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1195.941" EndTime="1196.402" Participant="me018">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1196.402" EndTime="1197.304" Participant="me018">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1196.583" EndTime="1197.208" Participant="mn017">
      just reboot it.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1197.016" EndTime="1198.868" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1197.286" EndTime="1197.709" Participant="me011">
      Abort -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1197.709" EndTime="1198.160" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1197.756" EndTime="1198.539" Participant="me001">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1198.160" EndTime="1200.742" Participant="me011">
      abort, retry, fail? <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1198.958" EndTime="1200.760" Participant="fe016">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1199.093" EndTime="1200.435" Participant="me018">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1199.127" EndTime="1201.256" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1200.760" EndTime="1204.217" Participant="fe016">
      So did they actually save the far-field <Pause/> data? Cuz at first they weren't -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1203.252" EndTime="1210.407" Participant="me011">
      Well, this was - this was the question. So - so they were saying they were not going to, and I said, "well that's silly, if - if we're gonna try to do it for a corpus,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1203.260" EndTime="1204.280" Participant="mn014">
      <Emphasis> Yes. </Emphasis>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1203.503" EndTime="1203.953" Participant="mn017">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1204.581" EndTime="1205.818" Participant="fe016">
      they weren't sa- O_K.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1205.159" EndTime="1205.420" Participant="mn014">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1207.474" EndTime="1208.073" Participant="fe016">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1209.429" EndTime="1209.737" Participant="mn017">
      Wow.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1209.889" EndTime="1210.093" Participant="mn014">
      <VocalSound Description="mouth"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1210.093" EndTime="1210.355" Participant="mn014">
      No.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1210.649" EndTime="1213.025" Participant="me011">
      there might be people who are interested in acoustics."
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1210.747" EndTime="1212.911" Participant="mn014">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1211.821" EndTime="1212.294" Participant="fe016">
      Or -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1212.911" EndTime="1213.471" Participant="mn014">
      <Uncertain> projector </Uncertain> <Comment Description="whispered"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1213.128" EndTime="1213.546" Participant="fe016">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1213.842" EndTime="1214.313" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> S-
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1213.975" EndTime="1216.681" Participant="mn014">
      We were not saying we are <Emphasis> not </Emphasis> <Pause/> doing it. We wer- we <Emphasis> just </Emphasis> wanted to do -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1215.038" EndTime="1218.636" Participant="mn017">
      No, the - the <Emphasis> question </Emphasis> is do we save one or two far-field channels or <Emphasis> all </Emphasis> of them?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1215.675" EndTime="1216.056" Participant="fe016">
      Right.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1217.556" EndTime="1217.761" Participant="mn014">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1218.692" EndTime="1218.916" Participant="mn014">
      Yeah. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1218.748" EndTime="1219.834" Participant="mn017">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1218.910" EndTime="1220.693" Participant="me011">
      I - I see no reason not to do all of them.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1220.407" EndTime="1221.119" Participant="mn017">
      <VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1220.724" EndTime="1220.980" Participant="me011">
      That -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1220.955" EndTime="1221.214" Participant="me013">
      Um -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1221.149" EndTime="1221.585" Participant="fe016">
      <Uncertain> Nnn. </Uncertain>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1221.151" EndTime="1223.735" Participant="me011">
      that if we <Emphasis> have </Emphasis> someone who is doing <Emphasis> acoustic </Emphasis> studies,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1221.672" EndTime="1221.862" Participant="mn017">
      Hmm. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1222.095" EndTime="1222.657" Participant="fe016">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1224.271" EndTime="1225.460" Participant="me011">
      uh, it's nice to have
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1225.557" EndTime="1227.348" Participant="me011">
      the <Emphasis> same </Emphasis> for every recording.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1227.523" EndTime="1229.600" Participant="me013">
      So, what is the purpose of this recording?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1227.845" EndTime="1228.359" Participant="mn017">
      Mm-hmm.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1230.317" EndTime="1231.035" Participant="me013">
      This is to
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1230.447" EndTime="1234.912" Participant="mn017">
      It's to be traini- to b- training data and development data for the SmartKom <Pause/> system.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1232.193" EndTime="1233.986" Participant="mn014">
      The English system? <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1232.369" EndTime="1232.648" Participant="me013">
      get
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1234.015" EndTime="1235.655" Participant="me013">
      <Pronounce Pronunciation="&quot;a..coustic&quot;"> acoustic  </Pronounce> and language model
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1235.306" EndTime="1235.608" Participant="mn017">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1235.796" EndTime="1236.002" Participant="mn014">
      Yeah. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1235.953" EndTime="1237.049" Participant="me013">
      training data for SmartKom.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1236.447" EndTime="1236.702" Participant="mn017">
      Right.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1237.000" EndTime="1237.310" Participant="mn017">
      Right.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1237.448" EndTime="1237.886" Participant="me013">
      O_K.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1237.683" EndTime="1238.574" Participant="me018">
      Where does this - ?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1237.731" EndTime="1242.002" Participant="fe016">
      Maybe we can have him vary the microphones, too, or they're different s- speakers.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1240.100" EndTime="1240.636" Participant="me013">
      Well,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1240.368" EndTime="1240.648" Participant="mn014">
      B-
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1241.022" EndTime="1243.520" Participant="me011">
      Right. So - so - so for <Emphasis> their </Emphasis> usage, they don't need anything.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1241.695" EndTime="1242.628" Participant="me013">
      so why not - ?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1243.746" EndTime="1250.568" Participant="mn014">
      Yeah. But - but I'm not sure about the legal aspect of - of that. Is - is there some contract with SmartKom or something about the data? What
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1243.884" EndTime="1244.201" Participant="me011">
      Right?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1248.467" EndTime="1248.842" Participant="mn017">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1250.723" EndTime="1254.252" Participant="mn014">
      they - or, is - is that <Emphasis> our </Emphasis> data which we are collecting here, or - ? <Comment Description="leading question"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1253.312" EndTime="1255.336" Participant="me013">
      We've never signed anything that said that
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1254.625" EndTime="1255.091" Participant="mn014">
      O_K.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1255.336" EndTime="1257.196" Participant="me013">
      we couldn't use anything that we did.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1256.286" EndTime="1256.754" Participant="mn014">
      O_K.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1256.345" EndTime="1258.065" Participant="mn017">
      We weren't supposed to collect any data.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1256.754" EndTime="1257.127" Participant="mn014">
      So.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1258.154" EndTime="1258.573" Participant="mn014">
      O_K.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1258.659" EndTime="1259.472" Participant="mn017">
      This was all -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1258.761" EndTime="1259.159" Participant="me013">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1258.983" EndTime="1261.963" Participant="mn014">
      So. Yeah, th- th- that was the question. If - if - ? Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1261.692" EndTime="1261.990" Participant="mn017">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1261.963" EndTime="1262.467" Participant="mn014">
      <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1262.467" EndTime="1262.933" Participant="mn014">
      Basically.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1262.467" EndTime="1268.879" Participant="me013">
      No <Emphasis> that's </Emphasis> not a problem. I - L- look, it seems to me that if we're doing it anyway and we're doing it for these - these purposes that we have,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1268.879" EndTime="1269.237" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1268.893" EndTime="1269.204" Participant="mn017">
      Mm-hmm.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1269.237" EndTime="1271.628" Participant="me013">
      and we have these distant mikes, we definitely should re-
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1271.692" EndTime="1272.030" Participant="me013">
      should
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1272.250" EndTime="1275.657" Participant="me013">
      save it all as long as we've got disk space, and disk is pretty cheap. So should we <Emphasis> save </Emphasis> it?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1274.132" EndTime="1274.471" Participant="mn017">
      O_K.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1275.123" EndTime="1275.541" Participant="me011">
      And then -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1276.016" EndTime="1276.554" Participant="me013">
      Now th- Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1276.973" EndTime="1279.483" Participant="me013">
      So we save it because it's - it - it's potentially useful.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1279.456" EndTime="1279.748" Participant="me011">
      Right.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1279.881" EndTime="1280.499" Participant="me013">
      And now,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1280.718" EndTime="1282.890" Participant="me013">
      what do we do with it is - is a s- separate question.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1282.990" EndTime="1284.823" Participant="me013">
      I mean, anybody who's training something up could
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1284.823" EndTime="1285.235" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1285.235" EndTime="1286.052" Participant="me013">
      choose
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1286.271" EndTime="1286.769" Participant="me013">
      to put it -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1286.322" EndTime="1286.742" Participant="mn017">
      Right.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1286.948" EndTime="1290.853" Participant="me013">
      eh, to u- include this or not. I - I would not say it was part of the meetings corpus. It isn't.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1291.690" EndTime="1293.806" Participant="me013">
      But it's some other data we have, and if somebody
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1293.985" EndTime="1296.914" Participant="me013">
      doing experiment wants to train up including that then they can. Right?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1296.669" EndTime="1297.008" Participant="mn017">
      Mm-hmm.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1296.950" EndTime="1297.285" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1297.285" EndTime="1297.748" Participant="me011">
      So it's -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1299.490" EndTime="1299.722" Participant="me011">
      It -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1299.819" EndTime="1300.039" Participant="me011">
      it -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1300.855" EndTime="1301.501" Participant="me011">
      I guess it - the -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1301.990" EndTime="1304.770" Participant="me011">
      begs the question of what is the meeting corpus. So if,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1305.254" EndTime="1307.423" Participant="me011">
      at U_W they start recording
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1307.983" EndTime="1308.822" Participant="me011">
      two-person
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1308.964" EndTime="1309.725" Participant="me013">
      I think it's - I -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1309.029" EndTime="1310.565" Participant="me011">
      hallway conversations is that
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1310.747" EndTime="1311.844" Participant="me011">
      part of the meeting corpus?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1311.702" EndTime="1315.469" Participant="me013">
      I think - I th- think the idea of two or more people conversing with one another is key.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1315.469" EndTime="1316.744" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1315.840" EndTime="1316.222" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1316.222" EndTime="1319.719" Participant="me011">
      Well, this has two or more people conversing with each other. They're just not face to face.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1317.461" EndTime="1318.424" Participant="me013">
      Nnn, well <Pause/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1317.733" EndTime="1318.648" Participant="fe008">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1317.888" EndTime="1318.242" Participant="mn014">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1318.315" EndTime="1319.668" Participant="fe016">
      What if we just give it a -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1318.648" EndTime="1319.038" Participant="fe008">
      <Uncertain> Well this - </Uncertain>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1318.962" EndTime="1320.834" Participant="me013">
      No, it doesn't. Right? It has -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1319.038" EndTime="1319.974" Participant="fe008">
      <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1319.741" EndTime="1321.979" Participant="fe016">
      a name like we give these meetings a name?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1320.924" EndTime="1321.461" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1321.080" EndTime="1321.596" Participant="fe008">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1321.461" EndTime="1322.814" Participant="me011">
      I mean, that was my intention.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1321.979" EndTime="1322.270" Participant="fe016">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1322.270" EndTime="1326.236" Participant="fe016">
      And then later on some people will consider it a meeting and some people won't, and -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1325.390" EndTime="1325.615" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="mouth"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1325.492" EndTime="1326.190" Participant="me013">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1325.615" EndTime="1327.223" Participant="me011">
      That was my intention. So - so - s-
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1325.642" EndTime="1326.203" Participant="fe008">
      Well this -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1326.236" EndTime="1326.418" Participant="fe016">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1326.418" EndTime="1327.510" Participant="fe016">
      Just give it a <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1327.223" EndTime="1327.455" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1327.455" EndTime="1329.707" Participant="me011">
      so <Emphasis> part </Emphasis> of the reason that I wanted to bring this up is,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1328.402" EndTime="1329.048" Participant="fe016">
      title.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1329.707" EndTime="1330.000" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1330.000" EndTime="1333.312" Participant="me011">
      do we wanna <Emphasis> handle </Emphasis> it as a special case or do we wanna <Emphasis> fold </Emphasis> it in,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1332.928" EndTime="1333.450" Participant="fe008">
      Oh. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1333.592" EndTime="1334.551" Participant="me013">
      I think it is a s-
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1333.739" EndTime="1335.798" Participant="me011">
      we- give everyone who's involved as
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1335.798" EndTime="1338.446" Participant="me011">
      their own user I_D, give it session I_Ds,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1338.446" EndTime="1338.697" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1338.697" EndTime="1341.297" Participant="me011">
      let all the tools that handle Meeting Recorder handle it,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1341.638" EndTime="1344.136" Participant="me011">
      or do we wanna special case it? And if we were gonna special case it,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1344.782" EndTime="1345.059" Participant="mn017">
      Well,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1345.089" EndTime="1346.200" Participant="mn014">
      So. It - it - it -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1345.099" EndTime="1345.355" Participant="mn017">
      it -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1345.122" EndTime="1345.975" Participant="me011">
      who's gonna do that?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1345.181" EndTime="1346.089" Participant="fe008">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1345.992" EndTime="1347.664" Participant="mn017">
      it makes sense to handle it
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1346.089" EndTime="1346.457" Participant="fe008">
      I think -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1346.267" EndTime="1346.681" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1347.962" EndTime="1352.393" Participant="mn017">
      with the same infrastructure, since we don't want to duplicate things unnecessarily. But as far as
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1352.651" EndTime="1354.965" Participant="mn017">
      distributing it, we shouldn't label it as part of this
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1355.086" EndTime="1356.088" Participant="mn017">
      meeting corpus. We should
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1356.064" EndTime="1356.414" Participant="me013">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1356.798" EndTime="1357.216" Participant="fe008">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1356.860" EndTime="1357.984" Participant="mn017">
      let it be its own corp-
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1357.143" EndTime="1357.334" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="mouth"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1357.334" EndTime="1359.544" Participant="me011">
      I don't see why not. It's just a different topic.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1357.352" EndTime="1358.859" Participant="fe008">
      Well it's - it - well, because -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1359.091" EndTime="1361.933" Participant="fe008">
      I ha- I have an extra point, which is the naturalness issue.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1362.378" EndTime="1365.841" Participant="fe008">
      Because we have, like, meetings that have a reason. That's one of the reasons that we were
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1365.841" EndTime="1367.600" Participant="fe008">
      talking about this. And - and those -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1366.652" EndTime="1367.120" Participant="me013">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1367.600" EndTime="1371.277" Participant="fe008">
      and this sounds like it's more of an experimental setup. It's got a different purpose. <Comment Description="&quot;purpose&quot; very quietly"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1369.067" EndTime="1369.562" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1369.562" EndTime="1373.346" Participant="me013">
      It's scenario-based, it's - it's human-computer interface -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1373.346" EndTime="1373.705" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1373.705" EndTime="1374.322" Participant="me013">
      it's really
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1374.322" EndTime="1377.689" Participant="me013">
      pretty different. But I- I - I have no problem with somebody folding it in
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1375.105" EndTime="1375.473" Participant="fe008">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1377.971" EndTime="1379.944" Participant="me013">
      for some experiment they're gonna do, but I don't think
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1380.143" EndTime="1382.932" Participant="me013">
      i- it - it doesn't match anything that we've described about meetings.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1382.228" EndTime="1382.618" Participant="me011">
      Mm-hmm.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1383.211" EndTime="1387.874" Participant="me013">
      Whereas everything that we talked about them doing at - at U_W and so forth really <Emphasis> does. </Emphasis> They're actually talking -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1386.810" EndTime="1390.461" Participant="me011">
      O_K. So w- so what does that <Emphasis> mean </Emphasis> for how we are gonna organize things?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1388.721" EndTime="1388.914" Participant="fe008">
      Hmm. <Comment Description="very quietly"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1390.344" EndTime="1390.587" Participant="mn014">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1390.883" EndTime="1394.044" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> You can - you can - Again, as - as I think Andreas was saying,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1394.044" EndTime="1394.482" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1394.482" EndTime="1395.824" Participant="me013">
      if you wanna use the same
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1396.202" EndTime="1402.557" Participant="me013">
      <Emphasis> tools </Emphasis> and the same conventions, there's no problem with that. It's just that it's, you know, different directory, it's called something different, it's - you know.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1402.856" EndTime="1403.613" Participant="me013">
      It is <Emphasis> different. </Emphasis>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1403.892" EndTime="1406.460" Participant="me013">
      You can't just fold it in as if it's - I mean, <Emphasis> digits </Emphasis> are different, too. Right?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1406.076" EndTime="1406.327" Participant="mn017">
      <VocalSound Description="mouth"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1406.327" EndTime="1408.248" Participant="mn017">
      It might also be potentially confusing.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1406.499" EndTime="1406.680" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="mouth"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1406.680" EndTime="1408.599" Participant="me011">
      Yeah, but those are folded in, and it's just -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1408.653" EndTime="1412.398" Participant="me011">
      you just mark the transcripts differently. So - so one option is you fold it in,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1410.468" EndTime="1410.671" Participant="mn017">
      Right.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1412.398" EndTime="1412.666" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1412.666" EndTime="1416.772" Participant="me011">
      and just simply in the file you mark somewhere that this is this type of
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1417.418" EndTime="1417.905" Participant="mn017">
      Yeah, I th-
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1417.490" EndTime="1419.880" Participant="me011">
      <Emphasis> interaction, </Emphasis> rather than <Emphasis> another </Emphasis> type of interaction.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1419.240" EndTime="1420.534" Participant="me013">
      Well, I don- I wouldn't call
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1421.013" EndTime="1422.533" Participant="me013">
      reading digits "meetings".
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1423.111" EndTime="1425.009" Participant="me013">
      Right? I mean, we - we - we were doing -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1424.150" EndTime="1424.300" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="mouth"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1424.300" EndTime="1424.641" Participant="me011">
      Well, but -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1424.775" EndTime="1424.994" Participant="me011">
      but,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1425.288" EndTime="1426.065" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1425.360" EndTime="1425.445" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="mouth"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1425.445" EndTime="1429.685" Participant="me011">
      I put it under the same directory tree. You know, it's in "user doctor speech data M_R".
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1427.258" EndTime="1427.617" Participant="me013">
      Well -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1427.835" EndTime="1431.049" Participant="fe016">
      Can we just have a directory called, like, "other stuff"?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1431.049" EndTime="1431.436" Participant="fe016">
      And -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1431.277" EndTime="1431.960" Participant="me011">
      Other. <Comment Description="quietly"/> <Comment Description="while laughing"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1431.436" EndTime="1431.836" Participant="fe016">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1431.836" EndTime="1433.182" Participant="fe016">
      Well - or, I dunno. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1432.971" EndTime="1436.014" Participant="me013">
      I mean, I don't care what directory tree you have it under. <Comment Description="while laughing"/> Right? I mean that's just a -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1433.837" EndTime="1434.893" Participant="fe016">
      And - <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1434.893" EndTime="1435.621" Participant="fe016">
      and just,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1435.617" EndTime="1436.050" Participant="mn014">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1435.621" EndTime="1438.095" Participant="fe016">
      um, store it there. I mean - <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1435.760" EndTime="1437.034" Participant="me011">
      O_K. My preference
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1436.011" EndTime="1436.295" Participant="mn017">
      <Uncertain> Yes. </Uncertain>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1436.688" EndTime="1436.965" Participant="me001">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1437.448" EndTime="1441.159" Participant="me011">
      is to have a single procedure so that I don't have to <Emphasis> think </Emphasis> too much about things.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1441.354" EndTime="1441.768" Participant="me011">
      And,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1441.397" EndTime="1441.851" Participant="me013">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1441.829" EndTime="1442.767" Participant="me011">
      just have a marking.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1443.547" EndTime="1446.797" Participant="me011">
      If we do it any <Emphasis> other </Emphasis> way that means that we need a separate procedure,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1443.624" EndTime="1443.803" Participant="me013">
      O_-
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1446.672" EndTime="1448.623" Participant="me013">
      You - you can use whatever procedure you want
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1446.966" EndTime="1448.087" Participant="me011">
      and someone has to <Emphasis> do </Emphasis> that.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1448.087" EndTime="1448.322" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1448.623" EndTime="1453.524" Participant="me013">
      that's p- convenient for you. All I'm saying is that there's no way that we're gonna tell people that reading digits is meetings.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1453.995" EndTime="1454.287" Participant="me011">
      Right.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1454.055" EndTime="1458.957" Participant="me013">
      And similarly we're not gonna tell them that someone talking to a computer to get travel information is meetings.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1459.415" EndTime="1460.232" Participant="me013">
      Those aren't meetings.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1460.471" EndTime="1465.871" Participant="me013">
      But if it makes it easier for you to pu- fold them in the same procedures and have them under the same directory tree, knock yourself out. You know?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1465.061" EndTime="1465.601" Participant="me018">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1465.395" EndTime="1465.870" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1465.601" EndTime="1466.262" Participant="me018">
      There's a
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1465.971" EndTime="1467.840" Participant="mn017">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1465.989" EndTime="1467.622" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1466.262" EndTime="1468.085" Participant="me018">
      couple other questions that I have too, and -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1468.085" EndTime="1470.289" Participant="me018">
      and <Pause/> one of <Pronounce Pronunciation="&quot;em&quot;"> them  </Pronounce> is, what about, uh,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1470.429" EndTime="1471.391" Participant="me018">
      consent issues?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1471.851" EndTime="1473.492" Participant="me018">
      And the other one is, what about transcription?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1473.724" EndTime="1475.347" Participant="mn014">
      Transcription is done in Munich.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1473.833" EndTime="1474.153" Participant="me018">
      Are - ?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1475.456" EndTime="1477.543" Participant="me018">
      O_K. So <Emphasis> we </Emphasis> don't have to worry about transcribing it?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1476.596" EndTime="1476.783" Participant="mn014">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1476.984" EndTime="1477.423" Participant="me013">
      Alright.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1477.085" EndTime="1478.675" Participant="me011">
      So, w- we will hafta worry about
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1478.295" EndTime="1484.561" Participant="mn017">
      That's a - that's another argument to keep it separate, because it's gonna follow the SmartKom transcription conventions and not the
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1478.956" EndTime="1479.540" Participant="me011">
      format.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1482.912" EndTime="1483.610" Participant="me011">
      Oh, O_K.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1483.368" EndTime="1483.629" Participant="mn014">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1484.737" EndTime="1486.739" Participant="mn017">
      ICSI meeting transcription <Pronounce Pronunciation="&quot;con-&quot;+&quot;tran-&quot;"> conventions.  </Pronounce>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1485.223" EndTime="1485.687" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> Ah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1485.620" EndTime="1487.677" Participant="me011">
      O_K. Well, I didn't realize that. That's - that's a -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1485.986" EndTime="1486.504" Participant="me013">
      Good point.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1488.197" EndTime="1488.715" Participant="me013">
      Good point.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1489.412" EndTime="1494.393" Participant="me013">
      But I'm sure no one would have a problem with our folding it in for some acoustic modeling or - or some things.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1495.156" EndTime="1495.675" Participant="me013">
      Um. <Comment Description="very quietly"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1496.232" EndTime="1497.583" Participant="me013">
      Do we h- do we have, uh,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1498.042" EndTime="1498.659" Participant="me013">
      um,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1499.279" EndTime="1501.514" Participant="me013">
      American-born folk, uh, reading German -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1501.734" EndTime="1502.849" Participant="me013">
      German, uh, pla- uh,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1502.849" EndTime="1504.483" Participant="me013">
      place names and so forth? Is that - ?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1503.864" EndTime="1504.126" Participant="mn014">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1504.081" EndTime="1504.713" Participant="mn017">
      Exactly.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1504.723" EndTime="1505.021" Participant="mn014">
      <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1504.764" EndTime="1504.983" Participant="me011">
      Yep.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1505.001" EndTime="1505.539" Participant="me013">
      Yeah, great.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1505.009" EndTime="1505.267" Participant="mn017">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1505.695" EndTime="1506.953" Participant="me018">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1505.718" EndTime="1506.894" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1505.888" EndTime="1506.799" Participant="me001">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1506.066" EndTime="1508.345" Participant="me011">
      They - they even have a reading list. It's pretty funny.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1506.953" EndTime="1508.235" Participant="me018">
      I bet that sounds good, huh?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1507.731" EndTime="1508.229" Participant="me013">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1508.013" EndTime="1508.365" Participant="mn017">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1508.235" EndTime="1509.377" Participant="me018">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1508.290" EndTime="1508.870" Participant="fe016">
      <VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1508.327" EndTime="1509.250" Participant="me001">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1508.677" EndTime="1509.031" Participant="mn014">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1509.162" EndTime="1511.882" Participant="mn014">
      You can do that if you want. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1509.578" EndTime="1509.958" Participant="me018">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1509.958" EndTime="1511.140" Participant="me018">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> O_K. <Comment Description="while laughing"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1510.442" EndTime="1511.060" Participant="me013">
      Yeah. <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1510.618" EndTime="1511.295" Participant="me051">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1510.709" EndTime="1511.348" Participant="me001">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1511.140" EndTime="1511.521" Participant="me018">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1511.521" EndTime="1512.663" Participant="me018">
      <VocalSound Description="breath"/> I dunno if you want that.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1511.804" EndTime="1512.065" Participant="mn017">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1511.891" EndTime="1512.329" Participant="me013">
      Right.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1512.663" EndTime="1513.240" Participant="me018">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1513.100" EndTime="1513.397" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1513.397" EndTime="1514.067" Participant="me011">
      So -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1513.804" EndTime="1514.210" Participant="fe008">
      Hmm. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1513.842" EndTime="1514.978" Participant="me013">
      Heidelberg <Comment Description="mock Southern accent"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1515.042" EndTime="1515.481" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1515.097" EndTime="1516.273" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1515.282" EndTime="1516.753" Participant="fe008">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1515.304" EndTime="1515.899" Participant="me018">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1515.428" EndTime="1516.310" Participant="me001">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1515.600" EndTime="1516.066" Participant="mn014">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1516.857" EndTime="1517.209" Participant="mn017">
      <Pronounce Pronunciation="&quot;zackly&quot;"> Exactly  </Pronounce>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1516.888" EndTime="1517.526" Participant="fe008">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1518.259" EndTime="1520.478" Participant="me011">
      Disk might eventually be an issue so we might -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1518.886" EndTime="1519.739" Participant="mn017">
      Do you wanna be a subject?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1519.953" EndTime="1521.128" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1520.253" EndTime="1521.431" Participant="mn017">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1520.518" EndTime="1521.135" Participant="me051">
      <VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1521.099" EndTime="1521.994" Participant="mn014">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1521.666" EndTime="1522.663" Participant="me013">
      Yeah, I be pretty good. <Comment Description="mock Southern accent, character voice"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1521.803" EndTime="1522.010" Participant="me011">
      we -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1522.769" EndTime="1524.250" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1522.800" EndTime="1523.232" Participant="me018">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1522.934" EndTime="1524.152" Participant="mn017">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1523.010" EndTime="1524.563" Participant="me011">
      we might need to, uh, <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1523.036" EndTime="1524.310" Participant="fe008">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1523.189" EndTime="1524.251" Participant="mn014">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1524.486" EndTime="1525.238" Participant="fe008">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1525.479" EndTime="1527.294" Participant="me011">
      get some more disk pretty soon. We're about -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1525.492" EndTime="1525.765" Participant="mn017">
      We -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1525.927" EndTime="1526.442" Participant="mn017">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1527.348" EndTime="1528.304" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1527.415" EndTime="1528.769" Participant="mn017">
      That was one of our concerns.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1527.419" EndTime="1528.033" Participant="me018">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1527.516" EndTime="1528.670" Participant="me011">
      we're about half -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1529.234" EndTime="1530.841" Participant="me011">
      halfway through our disk right now.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1529.439" EndTime="1529.700" Participant="mn014">
      <VocalSound Description="clears throat"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1531.010" EndTime="1532.800" Participant="me018">
      Are we only half? I thought we were more than that.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1532.522" EndTime="1536.214" Participant="me011">
      We're probably a little more than that because we're using up some space that we shouldn't be on.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1537.100" EndTime="1537.490" Participant="me011">
      So,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1537.563" EndTime="1541.450" Participant="me011">
      once everything gets converted over to the disks we're <Emphasis> supposed </Emphasis> to be using we'll be probably,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1541.657" EndTime="1542.973" Participant="me011">
      uh, seventy-five percent.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1542.768" EndTime="1543.198" Participant="me018">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1543.198" EndTime="1546.383" Participant="me018">
      Well, when I was looking for space for Thilo, I found one disk that had,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1547.165" EndTime="1547.869" Participant="me018">
      uh,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1548.049" EndTime="1550.693" Participant="me018">
      I think it was nine gigs and another one had seventeen.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1550.641" EndTime="1550.909" Participant="me011">
      Yep.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1551.795" EndTime="1553.683" Participant="me018">
      And everything else was sorta committed.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1554.084" EndTime="1554.550" Participant="me018">
      Uh -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1554.528" EndTime="1555.320" Participant="me011">
      Were those
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1555.905" EndTime="1557.062" Participant="me011">
      backed-up or non-backed-up?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1557.456" EndTime="1559.058" Participant="me018">
      Those were <Emphasis> non-backed-up. </Emphasis>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1557.857" EndTime="1559.241" Participant="mn014">
      <Emphasis> Non-back-up. </Emphasis>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1558.778" EndTime="1559.785" Participant="me011">
      Right. So that's different.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1559.785" EndTime="1560.210" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1560.901" EndTime="1562.140" Participant="me018">
      S- oh, you're talking about backed-up.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1561.829" EndTime="1563.145" Participant="me011">
      I'm much more concerned about
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1563.230" EndTime="1563.754" Participant="me011">
      the backed-up.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1563.754" EndTime="1564.047" Participant="me011">
      <Uncertain NumSyllables="1"> @@ </Uncertain> <Comment Description="uncodeable vocal noise"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1564.047" EndTime="1566.190" Participant="me011">
      The non-backed-up, <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> yeah, i-
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1564.556" EndTime="1566.287" Participant="me018">
      I haven't looked to see how much of that we have. <Comment Description="decreasing volume"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1566.434" EndTime="1568.121" Participant="me011">
      is cheap. I mean, if we need to we can
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1568.231" EndTime="1573.044" Participant="me011">
      buy a disk, hang it off a s- uh, workstation. If it's not backed-up the sysadmins don't care too much.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1573.170" EndTime="1574.007" Participant="me013">
      Yeah. So, I mean,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1574.146" EndTime="1576.956" Participant="me013">
      pretty much anytime we need a disk, we can get it at the rate that we're -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1575.668" EndTime="1576.169" Participant="mn017">
      You can -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1577.307" EndTime="1578.119" Participant="mn017">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1578.295" EndTime="1579.431" Participant="mn017">
      I shouldn't be saying this, but,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1579.643" EndTime="1580.280" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1579.986" EndTime="1580.582" Participant="mn017">
      you can just -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1581.556" EndTime="1582.044" Participant="mn017">
      you know,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1582.666" EndTime="1582.978" Participant="mn017">
      since
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1583.073" EndTime="1584.235" Participant="mn017">
      the back-ups are every night,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1584.270" EndTime="1586.396" Participant="mn017">
      you can recycle the backed-up diskspace.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1585.490" EndTime="1585.848" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1585.848" EndTime="1588.407" Participant="me011">
      Yeah. But that's - that's - <Pause/> that's risky.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1586.396" EndTime="1587.914" Participant="mn017">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1587.635" EndTime="1589.565" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1587.813" EndTime="1588.186" Participant="mn014">
      <VocalSound Description="mouth"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1588.191" EndTime="1590.194" Participant="mn017">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1588.338" EndTime="1589.624" Participant="me051">
      <VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1588.603" EndTime="1589.549" Participant="me018">
      <VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1589.565" EndTime="1590.641" Participant="me013">
      Yeah. You really shouldn't be saying - <Comment Description="while laughing"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1589.932" EndTime="1590.976" Participant="me011">
      Mmm. Mmm. <Uncertain NumSyllables="1"> @@ </Uncertain> <Comment Description="uncodeable syllable"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1590.093" EndTime="1593.654" Participant="mn014">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1590.194" EndTime="1593.877" Participant="mn017">
      I didn't say that. I didn't say that. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1590.534" EndTime="1591.384" Participant="me051">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1590.641" EndTime="1592.832" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1590.976" EndTime="1592.839" Participant="me011">
      Yeah, that's right. Beep that out. <Comment Description="while laughing"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1590.982" EndTime="1592.070" Participant="me018">
      <VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1592.832" EndTime="1595.801" Participant="me013">
      Da- we had allowed Dave to listen to these - <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> these,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1594.699" EndTime="1596.314" Participant="mn014">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1594.723" EndTime="1595.831" Participant="mn017">
      Right. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1594.943" EndTime="1595.568" Participant="me018">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1595.801" EndTime="1596.379" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1596.379" EndTime="1597.813" Participant="me013">
      uh, recordings. <Emphasis> Um </Emphasis> -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1597.813" EndTime="1598.479" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="mouth"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1598.479" EndTime="1599.323" Participant="me013">
      Yeah, I me- and
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1598.855" EndTime="1599.526" Participant="mn014">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1599.323" EndTime="1600.100" Participant="me013">
      there's been this
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1599.954" EndTime="1600.159" Participant="mn014">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1600.339" EndTime="1603.288" Participant="me013">
      conversation going on about getting another file server, and -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1603.130" EndTime="1603.521" Participant="mn017">
      Mm-hmm.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1603.348" EndTime="1603.707" Participant="me013">
      and
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1603.707" EndTime="1604.105" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1604.105" EndTime="1604.643" Participant="me013">
      we <Pronounce Pronunciation="/n/"> can  </Pronounce> do that.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1604.643" EndTime="1604.882" Participant="me013">
      We'll
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1605.061" EndTime="1607.233" Participant="me013">
      take the opportunity and get another big raft of -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1607.233" EndTime="1607.974" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1607.849" EndTime="1608.201" Participant="me011">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1607.974" EndTime="1609.050" Participant="me013">
      of disk, I guess.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1609.502" EndTime="1609.777" Participant="mn017">
      Well,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1609.991" EndTime="1612.793" Participant="me011">
      It's really the back-up issue rather than the file server issue.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1610.005" EndTime="1610.364" Participant="mn017">
      I think - <Comment Description="hoarse voice quality"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1611.017" EndTime="1617.628" Participant="mn017">
      I think there's an argument for having - you know, you could use our old file server for - for disks that have data that <Pause/> is very
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1618.003" EndTime="1620.448" Participant="mn017">
      rarely accessed, and then have a fast
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1620.709" EndTime="1621.573" Participant="mn017">
      new file server
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1621.705" EndTime="1622.115" Participant="mn017">
      for
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1622.247" EndTime="1623.553" Participant="mn017">
      data that is, um,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1622.728" EndTime="1623.032" Participant="me011">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1623.870" EndTime="1624.296" Participant="mn017">
      heavily
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1624.398" EndTime="1624.775" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1624.765" EndTime="1625.431" Participant="mn017">
      accessed.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1624.775" EndTime="1630.127" Participant="me011">
      My understanding is, the issue isn't really the file server. We could <Emphasis> always </Emphasis> put more disks on. It's the back-up system.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1625.548" EndTime="1625.871" Participant="mn017">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1627.227" EndTime="1627.653" Participant="mn017">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1628.150" EndTime="1630.191" Participant="mn017">
      It's the back- it's the back-up capaci- Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1630.919" EndTime="1632.343" Participant="me011">
      So - which is near saturation,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1632.501" EndTime="1633.110" Participant="me011">
      apparently.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1634.470" EndTime="1634.898" Participant="me011">
      So.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1635.020" EndTime="1635.503" Participant="me013">
      Soon.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1635.067" EndTime="1637.815" Participant="me018">
      I think - I think the file server <Emphasis> could </Emphasis> become an issue as
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1638.100" EndTime="1638.546" Participant="me018">
      we get
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1639.117" EndTime="1640.100" Participant="me018">
      a whole bunch more
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1640.350" EndTime="1642.116" Participant="me018">
      new compute machines. And we've got,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1642.634" EndTime="1643.026" Participant="me018">
      you know,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1643.455" EndTime="1644.098" Participant="me018">
      fifty
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1644.562" EndTime="1646.099" Participant="me018">
      machines trying to access
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1646.527" EndTime="1648.271" Participant="me018">
      data off of Abbott at once.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1647.460" EndTime="1651.897" Participant="me011">
      Well, we're alright for now because the network's so slow. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1650.118" EndTime="1650.808" Participant="me018">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1650.361" EndTime="1651.406" Participant="mn014">
      <VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1650.466" EndTime="1652.083" Participant="me001">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1650.605" EndTime="1651.222" Participant="fe016">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1650.628" EndTime="1654.525" Participant="mn017">
      I mean, I think - I think we've raised this before and someone said this is not a reliable
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1650.986" EndTime="1651.718" Participant="me018">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1651.222" EndTime="1651.831" Participant="fe016">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1651.289" EndTime="1651.823" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1651.718" EndTime="1652.307" Participant="me018">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1652.271" EndTime="1652.540" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1652.307" EndTime="1652.643" Participant="me018">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1654.761" EndTime="1655.803" Participant="mn017">
      way to do it, but the -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1656.228" EndTime="1657.705" Participant="mn017">
      What about putting the stuff on,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1658.246" EndTime="1660.665" Participant="mn017">
      like, C_- C_D-ROM or D_V_D or something?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1658.300" EndTime="1659.021" Participant="me011">
      Yeah. That was me.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1660.090" EndTime="1662.448" Participant="me011">
      I was the one who said it was not reliable. The- they -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1661.500" EndTime="1662.043" Participant="mn017">
      O_K.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1662.546" EndTime="1663.118" Participant="me011">
      they wear out.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1663.553" EndTime="1664.081" Participant="mn017">
      Oh, O_K.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1664.216" EndTime="1665.118" Participant="me011">
      Yeah. The - the - th-
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1664.492" EndTime="1666.662" Participant="mn017">
      But they wear out just from sitting on the shelf?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1666.263" EndTime="1666.458" Participant="me011">
      Yep.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1666.820" EndTime="1667.514" Participant="me011">
      Absolutely.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1666.970" EndTime="1668.670" Participant="mn017">
      Or from being <Pause/> <Pronounce Pronunciation="&quot;reed&quot;"> read  </Pronounce> and <Pronounce Pronunciation="&quot;red&quot;"> read?  </Pronounce>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1667.989" EndTime="1668.220" Participant="me011">
      No.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1668.852" EndTime="1671.057" Participant="me011">
      Read and write don't hurt <Pronounce Pronunciation="&quot;em&quot;"> them  </Pronounce> too much unless you scratch <Pronounce Pronunciation="&quot;em&quot;"> them.  </Pronounce>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1669.784" EndTime="1670.386" Participant="mn017">
      Oh, O_K.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1671.557" EndTime="1672.218" Participant="me011">
      But the r-
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1672.218" EndTime="1675.216" Participant="me011">
      the write once, and the read-writes, don't last.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1676.364" EndTime="1678.521" Participant="me011">
      So you don't wa- you don't wanna put ir- <Emphasis> un- </Emphasis>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1679.360" EndTime="1681.034" Participant="me011">
      reproduceable data <Pause/> on them.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1681.034" EndTime="1681.668" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1681.376" EndTime="1681.837" Participant="mn017">
      <Pronounce Pronunciation="&quot;wuh-huh&quot;"> Uh-huh.  </Pronounce>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1681.714" EndTime="1681.985" Participant="me018">
      <VocalSound Description="mouth"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1681.985" EndTime="1683.654" Participant="me018">
      Wear out after what amount of time?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1683.714" EndTime="1684.359" Participant="me011">
      Year or two.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1684.925" EndTime="1685.534" Participant="fe008">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1685.689" EndTime="1686.307" Participant="fe008">
      Would it be - ?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1685.910" EndTime="1686.690" Participant="me013">
      <Emphasis> Year </Emphasis> or two?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1686.734" EndTime="1686.917" Participant="me011">
      Yep.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1687.940" EndTime="1688.245" Participant="me013">
      Wow.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1688.858" EndTime="1689.225" Participant="fe008">
      Hmm. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1688.950" EndTime="1689.405" Participant="mn017">
      But if that -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1689.770" EndTime="1690.245" Participant="mn017">
      then you would
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1690.612" EndTime="1691.946" Participant="mn017">
      think you'd <Pause/> hear much more
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1692.064" EndTime="1692.929" Participant="mn017">
      clamoring about
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1692.131" EndTime="1692.486" Participant="mn014">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1694.303" EndTime="1695.196" Participant="mn017">
      data loss and -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1695.975" EndTime="1696.513" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1696.513" EndTime="1697.489" Participant="me013">
      I mean, yeah, all the L_-
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1696.533" EndTime="1696.842" Participant="fe008">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1696.585" EndTime="1698.780" Participant="me011">
      I - I don't know many people who do it on C_D.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1699.401" EndTime="1700.279" Participant="me011">
      I mean, they're - the most -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1700.542" EndTime="1703.155" Participant="me013">
      L_D_C- all the L_D_C distributions are on C_D-ROM.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1700.595" EndTime="1701.192" Participant="me011">
      fo- <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1701.409" EndTime="1701.821" Participant="fe016">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1702.830" EndTime="1704.095" Participant="me011">
      They're on C_D, but they're not -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1703.192" EndTime="1703.556" Participant="fe016">
      Like -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1704.247" EndTime="1706.879" Participant="me011">
      tha- that's not the only source. They have <Pronounce Pronunciation="&quot;em&quot;"> them  </Pronounce> on disk.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1705.773" EndTime="1706.150" Participant="me001">
      <VocalSound Description="clears throat"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1707.025" EndTime="1709.328" Participant="me011">
      And they burn new ones every once in a while. But if you go -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1708.424" EndTime="1709.439" Participant="mn017">
      But, you know, we have -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1709.328" EndTime="1709.522" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1709.487" EndTime="1712.756" Participant="fe016">
      But we have like thirty <Pause/> you know, from <Pause/> ten years ago? No.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1709.522" EndTime="1710.119" Participant="me011">
      if you go k-
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1712.572" EndTime="1714.732" Participant="me013">
      We have all sorts of C_D-ROMs from a long time ago.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1712.756" EndTime="1715.320" Participant="fe016">
      Yeah! Ten years ago. Ninety-one, and they're still all fine.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1712.852" EndTime="1713.087" Participant="mn017">
      Right.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1712.985" EndTime="1713.228" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1713.072" EndTime="1713.576" Participant="mn014">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1713.228" EndTime="1713.728" Participant="me011">
      Well, th-
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1714.155" EndTime="1714.363" Participant="me011">
      th-
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1714.553" EndTime="1716.068" Participant="me001">
      Were they burned or were they pressed?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1714.871" EndTime="1715.130" Participant="me013">
      Yeah. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1715.509" EndTime="1715.717" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="clears throat"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1715.920" EndTime="1719.068" Participant="fe016">
      Uh, both. I've burned them and they're still O_K. I mean, <Emphasis> usually </Emphasis> they're -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1716.852" EndTime="1717.240" Participant="me001">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1717.952" EndTime="1722.229" Participant="me011">
      O_K. The - the <Emphasis> pressed </Emphasis> ones last for- well, not forever, they've been finding even those degrade.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1721.203" EndTime="1721.593" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1721.593" EndTime="1722.290" Participant="me013">
      Oh, I see.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1722.229" EndTime="1722.544" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1722.544" EndTime="1723.154" Participant="me011">
      But, uh,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1723.215" EndTime="1724.555" Participant="me011">
      the <Emphasis> burned </Emphasis> ones - I mean,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1724.713" EndTime="1726.614" Participant="me011">
      when I say two or three years what I'm saying is that
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1725.033" EndTime="1725.725" Participant="fe016">
      That's what I -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1726.821" EndTime="1728.844" Participant="me011">
      I have had disks which are <Emphasis> gone </Emphasis> in a year.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1729.866" EndTime="1732.535" Participant="me011">
      On the <Emphasis> average, </Emphasis> it'll probably be three or <Emphasis> four </Emphasis> years.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1733.144" EndTime="1735.368" Participant="me011">
      But, uh - I - I - you don't want to per-
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1735.685" EndTime="1737.878" Participant="me011">
      p- have your only copy on a media that
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1738.512" EndTime="1739.148" Participant="me011">
      fails.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1739.421" EndTime="1739.832" Participant="mn017">
      Mmm.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1740.232" EndTime="1740.847" Participant="me011">
      And they do.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1740.791" EndTime="1741.348" Participant="mn017">
      So how <Pronounce Pronunciation="&quot;bout&quot;"> about  </Pronounce> - ?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1740.847" EndTime="1741.103" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1741.103" EndTime="1741.371" Participant="me011">
      Um,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1741.480" EndTime="1743.101" Participant="me011">
      if you have <Pronounce Pronunciation="&quot;em&quot;"> them  </Pronounce> professionally <Emphasis> pressed, </Emphasis>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1743.223" EndTime="1744.720" Participant="me011">
      y- you know, they're good for decades.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1744.267" EndTime="1744.615" Participant="mn017">
      So -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1744.676" EndTime="1746.216" Participant="mn017">
      so how about putting them on that
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1746.335" EndTime="1746.746" Participant="mn017">
      plus,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1747.250" EndTime="1748.291" Participant="mn017">
      like on a - on -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1748.330" EndTime="1749.518" Participant="mn017">
      on DAT or some other
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1749.825" EndTime="1750.778" Participant="mn017">
      medium that isn't
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1750.400" EndTime="1750.776" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1750.776" EndTime="1751.775" Participant="me011">
      I think th- um,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1751.173" EndTime="1751.691" Participant="mn017">
      <Uncertain> risky </Uncertain>?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1752.287" EndTime="1753.663" Participant="me011">
      we can already put them on tape.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1753.950" EndTime="1754.406" Participant="mn017">
      O_K.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1754.357" EndTime="1756.496" Participant="me011">
      And the tape is hi- is <Emphasis> very </Emphasis> reliable.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1756.541" EndTime="1756.976" Participant="mn017">
      Mm-hmm.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1757.080" EndTime="1759.712" Participant="me011">
      So the - the only issue is then <Pause/> if we need access to them.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1760.106" EndTime="1760.376" Participant="mn017">
      Right.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1760.236" EndTime="1762.150" Participant="me011">
      So that's fine f- if we don't need access to <Pronounce Pronunciation="&quot;em&quot;"> them.  </Pronounce>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1762.490" EndTime="1764.402" Participant="mn017">
      Well, if - if - if you - if they last -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1764.402" EndTime="1766.547" Participant="mn017">
      Say, they actually last, like, five years, huh,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1766.816" EndTime="1768.371" Participant="mn017">
      in - in the typical case,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1768.477" EndTime="1768.906" Participant="mn017">
      and -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1768.906" EndTime="1771.259" Participant="mn017">
      and occasionally you might need to recreate one,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1771.821" EndTime="1774.473" Participant="mn017">
      and then you get your tape out, but otherwise you don't.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1776.582" EndTime="1778.396" Participant="mn017">
      Can't you just - you just put them on - ?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1779.023" EndTime="1780.229" Participant="me001">
      So you just archive it on the
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1779.421" EndTime="1779.837" Participant="mn017">
      <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1780.505" EndTime="1781.173" Participant="me001">
      tape, and then
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1780.982" EndTime="1781.413" Participant="mn017">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1781.820" EndTime="1782.690" Participant="me001">
      put it on C_D as well?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1782.797" EndTime="1783.137" Participant="mn017">
      Right.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1784.302" EndTime="1786.386" Participant="me011">
      Oh. So you're just saying put <Pronounce Pronunciation="&quot;em&quot;"> them  </Pronounce> on C_Ds
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1786.947" EndTime="1788.210" Participant="me011">
      for normal access.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1787.932" EndTime="1788.351" Participant="mn017">
      Right.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1788.006" EndTime="1788.394" Participant="me001">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1788.734" EndTime="1789.015" Participant="me011">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1789.015" EndTime="1792.438" Participant="me011">
      I mean, you can do that but that's pretty annoying, because the C_Ds are so slow.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1789.071" EndTime="1789.723" Participant="me018">
      What you -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1791.834" EndTime="1792.162" Participant="fe016">
      See - <Comment Description="very reduced"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1792.417" EndTime="1792.824" Participant="me001">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1792.433" EndTime="1793.318" Participant="mn017">
      Mmm. <Comment Description="low creaky sound"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1792.653" EndTime="1793.505" Participant="fe016">
      <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1793.765" EndTime="1796.610" Participant="me018">
      What'd be nice is a system that re-burned the C_Ds every
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1796.610" EndTime="1797.090" Participant="me018">
      <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1796.629" EndTime="1797.197" Participant="mn017">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1796.780" EndTime="1797.761" Participant="me051">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1796.800" EndTime="1797.513" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1797.090" EndTime="1797.611" Participant="me018">
      year.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1797.126" EndTime="1800.562" Participant="fe016">
      H- everytime it was a "gonna" - "gonna die". <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1797.611" EndTime="1799.054" Participant="me018">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1797.660" EndTime="1798.042" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1797.832" EndTime="1798.405" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1798.025" EndTime="1799.114" Participant="mn014">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1798.042" EndTime="1799.724" Participant="me011">
      Well, I mean, the C_Ds are -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1798.398" EndTime="1799.255" Participant="me051">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1798.405" EndTime="1798.844" Participant="me013">
      Well -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1798.603" EndTime="1799.489" Participant="me001">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1799.489" EndTime="1800.196" Participant="me001">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1799.587" EndTime="1800.862" Participant="mn014">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1799.638" EndTime="1801.815" Participant="mn017">
      It's like - like dynamic ra- D_RAM.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1799.785" EndTime="1800.309" Participant="me011">
      are
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1800.562" EndTime="1801.199" Participant="fe016">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1800.589" EndTime="1801.052" Participant="me011">
      an op-
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1800.862" EndTime="1805.037" Participant="mn014">
      Just before. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1801.199" EndTime="1801.527" Participant="fe016">
      <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1801.527" EndTime="1805.972" Participant="fe016">
      Just before they- be- before it goes bad, it burns them in. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1801.815" EndTime="1803.358" Participant="mn017">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1801.944" EndTime="1802.465" Participant="me018">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1803.672" EndTime="1803.817" Participant="me011">
      The -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1803.927" EndTime="1808.911" Participant="me011">
      the C_D is an <Emphasis> alternative </Emphasis> to tape. ICSI already has a perfectly good tape system and it's more reliable.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1803.971" EndTime="1805.090" Participant="me001">
      Yeah. <Comment Description="while laughing"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1808.911" EndTime="1809.179" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1809.152" EndTime="1809.730" Participant="me013">
      You know -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1809.179" EndTime="1810.787" Participant="me011">
      So for archiving, we'll just use tape.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1810.314" EndTime="1813.672" Participant="mn017">
      One - one thing I don't understand is, if you have the data -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1810.972" EndTime="1811.550" Participant="me013">
      <Emphasis> I </Emphasis> would think -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1813.786" EndTime="1815.538" Participant="mn017">
      if - if you- if the meeting data
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1815.697" EndTime="1817.557" Participant="mn017">
      is put on disk exactly once,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1817.872" EndTime="1820.934" Participant="mn017">
      then it's backed-up once and the back-up system should never have to
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1821.051" EndTime="1821.197" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1821.197" EndTime="1821.587" Participant="me011">
      Well,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1821.365" EndTime="1822.703" Participant="mn017">
      bother with it, <Pronounce Pronunciation="reduced"> uh,  </Pronounce> more than once.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1822.805" EndTime="1824.987" Participant="me011">
      regardless - Well, first of all there was,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1825.509" EndTime="1827.300" Participant="me011">
      um, a problem with the
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1828.153" EndTime="1834.001" Participant="me011">
      archive in that I was every once in a while doing a chmod on all the directories an- or recursive chmod and chown, because
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1833.997" EndTime="1834.423" Participant="mn017">
      Mm-hmm.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1834.001" EndTime="1834.428" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1834.428" EndTime="1836.741" Participant="me011">
      they weren't getting <Emphasis> set </Emphasis> correctly every once in a while, and I was just,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1836.741" EndTime="1836.961" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1836.961" EndTime="1837.485" Participant="me011">
      doing a
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1837.623" EndTime="1838.671" Participant="me011">
      minus R_ star,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1838.671" EndTime="1838.988" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1838.755" EndTime="1839.254" Participant="mn017">
      Mm-hmm.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1838.988" EndTime="1840.036" Participant="me011">
      not realizing that that
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1839.621" EndTime="1840.610" Participant="fe016">
      Ah. <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1840.182" EndTime="1842.034" Participant="me011">
      caused <Pause/> it to be re-backed-up.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1842.948" EndTime="1844.377" Participant="me011">
      But <Emphasis> normally </Emphasis> you're correct.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1843.283" EndTime="1844.223" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1844.584" EndTime="1847.484" Participant="me011">
      But even without that, the back-up system is becoming saturated.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1848.484" EndTime="1853.732" Participant="mn017">
      But - but this back-up system is smart enough to figure out that something hasn't changed and doesn't need to be <Pause/> backed-up again.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1852.996" EndTime="1855.390" Participant="me011">
      Sure, but we still have enough changed
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1853.422" EndTime="1853.701" Participant="me013">
      The b-
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1855.525" EndTime="1858.022" Participant="me011">
      that the nightly back-ups are starting to take too long.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1858.289" EndTime="1862.190" Participant="me013">
      I think th- the - at least the once tha- that you put it on, it would - <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1862.190" EndTime="1862.565" Participant="me013">
      it would <Comment Description="while laughing"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1862.210" EndTime="1865.439" Participant="mn017">
      O_K. So - so then, if - So - so then, let's - Right.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1862.804" EndTime="1863.282" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1863.199" EndTime="1867.736" Participant="me011">
      It has nothing to do with the meeting. It's just the general ICSI back-up system is becoming saturated.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1863.282" EndTime="1864.000" Participant="me013">
      kill that. So.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1866.320" EndTime="1866.730" Participant="mn017">
      O_K.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1867.626" EndTime="1867.885" Participant="mn017">
      Right.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1867.922" EndTime="1869.126" Participant="mn017">
      So, what if we buy,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1869.126" EndTime="1869.663" Participant="mn017">
      uh -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1869.663" EndTime="1872.542" Participant="mn017">
      uh, what - what do they call these, um <Pause/> high density - ?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1871.631" EndTime="1872.462" Participant="me011">
      Well, why don't you have this -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1872.633" EndTime="1873.057" Participant="me011">
      have a -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1873.154" EndTime="1875.542" Participant="me011">
      this conversation with Dave Johnson tha- rather than with me?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1875.046" EndTime="1878.557" Participant="mn017">
      No, no. Because this is <Pause/> maybe something that we can do without involving Dave, and -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1878.655" EndTime="1878.991" Participant="mn017">
      and,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1879.298" EndTime="1880.126" Participant="mn017">
      putting more burden on him.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1880.126" EndTime="1880.521" Participant="mn017">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1880.521" EndTime="1881.388" Participant="mn017">
      How <Pronounce Pronunciation="&quot;bout&quot;"> about  </Pronounce> we buy,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1881.762" EndTime="1884.128" Participant="mn017">
      uh - uh - uh, one of these high density tape drives?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1884.619" EndTime="1886.670" Participant="mn017">
      And we put the data actually on non-backed-up
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1887.616" EndTime="1888.149" Participant="mn017">
      disks.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1888.819" EndTime="1893.461" Participant="mn017">
      And we do our own back-up once and for <Pronounce Pronunciation="vowel as in &quot;cat&quot;"> all  </Pronounce> - all, and then - and we don't have to bother this <Uncertain NumSyllables="1"> @@ </Uncertain> up?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1892.215" EndTime="1892.605" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1892.605" EndTime="1895.151" Participant="me011">
      Actually, you know, we could do that just with the tape - with the current tape.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1895.413" EndTime="1898.187" Participant="mn017">
      I dunno what the- these tapes - uh, at some point these -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1898.239" EndTime="1900.390" Participant="mn017">
      I dunno. What kind of tape drive is it? Is it - is - ?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1899.745" EndTime="1902.380" Participant="me011">
      I dunno but it's an automatic robot so it's very convenient.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1900.390" EndTime="1900.759" Participant="mn017">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1902.733" EndTime="1902.932" Participant="me013">
      Wh- <Comment Description="perhaps beginning of &quot;who&quot;"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1902.964" EndTime="1903.354" Participant="mn017">
      Right.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1903.038" EndTime="1904.637" Participant="me011">
      You just run a program to restore them.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1903.068" EndTime="1903.486" Participant="me013">
      The o-
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1904.602" EndTime="1905.527" Participant="me013">
      the one that we have?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1905.545" EndTime="1905.776" Participant="me011">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1905.830" EndTime="1908.325" Participant="mn017">
      But it might interfere with their back-up schedule, eh.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1905.846" EndTime="1906.543" Participant="me013">
      The - I mean -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1906.286" EndTime="1906.613" Participant="fe016">
      <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1906.613" EndTime="1906.961" Participant="fe016">
      But -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1907.660" EndTime="1910.546" Participant="me013">
      No, we have s- we - Don't we have our own? Something wi- th- that doesn't -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1910.805" EndTime="1912.837" Participant="me013">
      that isn't used by the back-up gang?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1912.837" EndTime="1913.714" Participant="me013">
      Don't we have something
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1914.269" EndTime="1914.688" Participant="fe008">
      Well they -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1914.272" EndTime="1915.068" Participant="me013">
      downstairs?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1915.101" EndTime="1916.029" Participant="me018">
      <Pronounce> What  </Pronounce> kinda tape drive?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1915.347" EndTime="1915.786" Participant="me013">
      Just in - ?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1916.188" EndTime="1916.493" Participant="me011">
      Well -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1916.224" EndTime="1916.623" Participant="me013">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1916.943" EndTime="1922.303" Participant="me011">
      but - no, but Andreas's point is a good one. And we don't <Emphasis> have </Emphasis> to do anything <Emphasis> ourselves </Emphasis> to do that. They're already right now on tape.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1920.303" EndTime="1920.641" Participant="mn017">
      Right.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1923.349" EndTime="1927.650" Participant="me011">
      Right. So your - your <Emphasis> point </Emphasis> is, and I think it's a <Emphasis> good </Emphasis> one, that we could just get more disk and put it there.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1925.380" EndTime="1925.651" Participant="mn017">
      Mmm.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1927.398" EndTime="1930.523" Participant="mn017">
      On an X_H - uh, X_ - X_ whatever partition. <Uncertain> Yeah. </Uncertain>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1928.674" EndTime="1929.144" Participant="me011">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1930.086" EndTime="1931.183" Participant="me011">
      That's not a bad idea.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1931.314" EndTime="1938.026" Participant="me013">
      Yeah, that's basically what I was gonna say, is that a disk is - is so cheap it's es- essentially, you know, close to free.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1937.925" EndTime="1939.085" Participant="me011">
      So once it's on tape -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1938.026" EndTime="1938.465" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1938.239" EndTime="1938.635" Participant="mn017">
      Right.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1938.465" EndTime="1941.034" Participant="me013">
      And the only thing that costs is the back-up <Pause/> issue,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1938.559" EndTime="1938.868" Participant="mn014">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1939.085" EndTime="1939.532" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1940.517" EndTime="1940.888" Participant="mn017">
      Right.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1941.034" EndTime="1941.532" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1941.532" EndTime="1946.274" Participant="me013">
      eh, to first order. And we can take care of that by putting it on non-back- <Pause/> up drives and just
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1945.775" EndTime="1946.211" Participant="mn017">
      Mm-hmm.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1947.210" EndTime="1948.933" Participant="me013">
      backing it up once onto this tape.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1948.578" EndTime="1949.527" Participant="me011">
      I think that's a good idea.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1948.927" EndTime="1949.131" Participant="mn017">
      Right. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1949.611" EndTime="1950.029" Participant="me013">
      <Pronounce Pronunciation="not fully vocalized"> Oh.  </Pronounce> Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1949.671" EndTime="1950.028" Participant="mn017">
      O_K. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1950.328" EndTime="1950.571" Participant="me013">
      Good.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1950.850" EndTime="1951.269" Participant="me013">
      It's good.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1950.940" EndTime="1951.393" Participant="fe016">
      So,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1951.393" EndTime="1953.758" Participant="fe016">
      who's gonna do these back-ups? The people that collect it?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1953.994" EndTime="1954.765" Participant="me011">
      Uh <Pause/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1956.300" EndTime="1957.105" Participant="me011">
      Well, I'll talk to Dave,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1957.446" EndTime="1958.945" Participant="me011">
      and - and see what th- how -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1958.945" EndTime="1959.517" Participant="me011">
      <NonVocalSound Description="noise"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1959.517" EndTime="1960.837" Participant="me011">
      what the best way of doing that is.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1960.251" EndTime="1960.694" Participant="me018">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1960.694" EndTime="1962.414" Participant="me018">
      It's probably gonna n- <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1961.137" EndTime="1962.360" Participant="me011">
      There's a little utility
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1962.652" EndTime="1962.920" Participant="me011">
      that
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1963.262" EndTime="1966.100" Participant="me011">
      will manually burn a tape for you, and that's probably the right way to do it.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1966.110" EndTime="1969.684" Participant="me018">
      Yeah, and we should probably make that part of the procedure for recording the meetings.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1968.054" EndTime="1968.436" Participant="fe016">
      Well, s-
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1968.592" EndTime="1968.873" Participant="me011">
      Yep.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1968.636" EndTime="1971.111" Participant="fe016">
      Yeah. That's what I'm wondering, if - <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1970.783" EndTime="1971.017" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1971.017" EndTime="1975.340" Participant="me011">
      Well <Pause/> we're g- we're gonna automate that. My intention is to <Pause/> do a script that'll do everything. <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1971.691" EndTime="1972.109" Participant="fe016">
      O_K.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1973.747" EndTime="1974.948" Participant="fe016">
      I mean, you don't have to physically
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1975.093" EndTime="1976.443" Participant="fe016">
      put a tape in the drive? Or s- ? <Comment Description="leading question"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1976.052" EndTime="1976.308" Participant="me011">
      No.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1976.443" EndTime="1976.876" Participant="fe016">
      Oh, O_K.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1976.625" EndTime="1979.682" Participant="me011">
      It's all tape robot, so you just sit down at your computer and you type a command.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1977.222" EndTime="1977.932" Participant="fe016">
      So it's just -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1978.860" EndTime="1979.351" Participant="fe016">
      Oh, O_K.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1979.539" EndTime="1982.710" Participant="mn017">
      Yeah, but then you're effectively using the resources of the back-up system.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1982.980" EndTime="1984.399" Participant="mn017">
      Or is that a different tape robot?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1983.877" EndTime="1985.325" Participant="fe016">
      But not at the same time.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1984.349" EndTime="1985.799" Participant="me011">
      Yeah. But y- but you would be anyway.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1987.110" EndTime="1987.935" Participant="mn017">
      No, no. See -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1987.272" EndTime="1988.639" Participant="me011">
      Right? Because - <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1987.550" EndTime="1989.874" Participant="me018">
      No, no, no. <Emphasis> He's </Emphasis> saying get a <Emphasis> whole </Emphasis> different drive.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1989.528" EndTime="1990.653" Participant="mn017">
      Yeah, just give a dedi-
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1989.604" EndTime="1990.866" Participant="me011">
      But there's no reason to do that.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1991.053" EndTime="1992.253" Participant="mn017">
      Well, I'm saying is <Uncertain NumSyllables="1"> @@ </Uncertain>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1991.348" EndTime="1993.302" Participant="me011">
      It - we already have it there and it - it's -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1992.253" EndTime="1994.128" Participant="mn017">
      i- if you go to Dave, and - and -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1994.128" EndTime="1996.246" Participant="mn017">
      and ask him "can I use your tape robot?",
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1996.297" EndTime="1997.127" Participant="mn017">
      he will say,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1997.666" EndTime="2000.155" Participant="mn017">
      "well <Pause/> that's gonna screw up our back-up operation."
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="1999.344" EndTime="1999.842" Participant="me011">
      No, we won't.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2000.360" EndTime="2000.881" Participant="me011">
      He'll say
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2001.301" EndTime="2004.355" Participant="me011">
      "if - if that means <Pause/> that it's not gonna be backed-up
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2004.526" EndTime="2005.857" Participant="me011">
      <Emphasis> standardly, </Emphasis> great."
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2006.267" EndTime="2007.186" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2006.695" EndTime="2007.074" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2007.074" EndTime="2007.509" Participant="me013">
      He- I -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2007.669" EndTime="2012.389" Participant="me013">
      Dave has - has promoted this in the past. So I don't think he's actually against it. Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2010.224" EndTime="2011.868" Participant="me011">
      Yeah. It's - it's definitely no problem.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2010.872" EndTime="2011.823" Participant="mn017">
      Oh, O_K. Alright.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2011.885" EndTime="2012.336" Participant="mn017">
      Alright.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2013.211" EndTime="2013.501" Participant="mn017">
      Good.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2013.325" EndTime="2013.704" Participant="me013">
      <Pronounce Pronunciation="&quot;mm-kay&quot;"> O_K.  </Pronounce>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2014.171" EndTime="2016.258" Participant="fe016">
      What about if the times overlap
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2017.569" EndTime="2018.640" Participant="fe016">
      with the normal back-up
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2018.840" EndTime="2019.246" Participant="fe016">
      time?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2019.246" EndTime="2019.646" Participant="fe016">
      <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2019.539" EndTime="2019.876" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="mouth"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2020.068" EndTime="2022.974" Participant="me011">
      Um, it's - it's just - it's just a utility which queues up.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2023.303" EndTime="2023.879" Participant="fe016">
      O_K.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2023.617" EndTime="2026.375" Participant="me011">
      It just queues it up and - and when it's available, it will copy it.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2026.681" EndTime="2026.980" Participant="me013">
      Yeah. <Comment Description="very quietly"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2026.858" EndTime="2027.212" Participant="me011">
      And then
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2027.212" EndTime="2030.421" Participant="me011">
      you can tell it to then remove it from the disk or you can, you know, do it a-
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2030.639" EndTime="2032.368" Participant="me011">
      a few days later or whatever you wanna do,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2032.648" EndTime="2034.487" Participant="me011">
      after you confirm that it's really backed-up.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2032.665" EndTime="2033.281" Participant="fe016">
      O_K.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2037.020" EndTime="2038.079" Participant="me011">
      N_W - ?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2038.358" EndTime="2039.614" Participant="fe008">
      You saying N_W archive?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2039.499" EndTime="2041.430" Participant="me011">
      N_W archive. That's what it is. <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2040.211" EndTime="2040.490" Participant="fe008">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2040.490" EndTime="2040.849" Participant="fe008">
      Yep <Comment Description="whispered"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2040.849" EndTime="2041.191" Participant="fe008">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2041.729" EndTime="2041.997" Participant="me013">
      <Pronounce Pronunciation="&quot;kay&quot;"> O_K.  </Pronounce>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2042.441" EndTime="2045.469" Participant="fe008">
      And if you did that during the day it would never make it to the nightly back-ups.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2044.860" EndTime="2045.188" Participant="me011">
      Right.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2045.748" EndTime="2047.740" Participant="fe008">
      And then there wouldn't be this extra load.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2047.426" EndTime="2051.511" Participant="mn017">
      Well, it - if he - you have to put the data on a - on a non-backed-up disk to begin with.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2053.057" EndTime="2054.031" Participant="mn017">
      So that - so that -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2053.145" EndTime="2053.410" Participant="me011">
      Right.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2053.616" EndTime="2053.895" Participant="fe008">
      Well,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2054.633" EndTime="2057.024" Participant="fe008">
      but you can have it N_W archive to - you can have,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2054.689" EndTime="2056.028" Participant="mn017">
      otherwise you don't - you -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2057.024" EndTime="2057.263" Participant="fe008">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2057.263" EndTime="2060.032" Participant="fe008">
      uh, a non-backed-up disk N_W archived,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2060.069" EndTime="2060.335" Participant="me011">
      Right.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2060.530" EndTime="2062.563" Participant="fe008">
      and it'll never show up on the nightly back-ups.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2060.616" EndTime="2061.363" Participant="me011">
      And then it never -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2060.648" EndTime="2061.042" Participant="mn017">
      Right.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2061.415" EndTime="2061.895" Participant="mn017">
      Right.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2062.002" EndTime="2062.315" Participant="me011">
      Right.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2062.829" EndTime="2065.324" Participant="me011">
      Which I'm sure would make ever- the sysadmins very happy.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2062.926" EndTime="2063.320" Participant="mn017">
      Right. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2063.533" EndTime="2063.934" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="cough"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2065.450" EndTime="2065.749" Participant="fe008">
      Yeah. <Comment Description="whispered"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2065.885" EndTime="2066.877" Participant="me011">
      So, I think that's a good idea.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2065.970" EndTime="2066.271" Participant="mn017">
      <Pronounce Pronunciation="&quot;kay&quot;"> O_K.  </Pronounce>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2067.080" EndTime="2067.937" Participant="me011">
      That's what we should do.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2067.179" EndTime="2067.476" Participant="mn017">
      <Pronounce Pronunciation="&quot;kay&quot;"> O_K.  </Pronounce> <Comment Description="quietly"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2068.217" EndTime="2068.591" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2068.591" EndTime="2070.683" Participant="me011">
      So, that means we'll probably wanna convert all -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2071.430" EndTime="2072.451" Participant="me011">
      all those files -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2072.560" EndTime="2074.274" Participant="me011">
      filesystems to non-backed-up media.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2075.542" EndTime="2076.289" Participant="me018">
      That sounds good.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2076.359" EndTime="2076.609" Participant="me011">
      Yep.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2076.566" EndTime="2076.725" Participant="me013">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2077.073" EndTime="2078.010" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2078.010" EndTime="2078.607" Participant="me013">
      Um,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2078.886" EndTime="2079.265" Participant="me013">
      <Pronounce Pronunciation="&quot;nother&quot;"> another,  </Pronounce>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2079.504" EndTime="2080.580" Participant="me013">
      thing on the agenda said
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2080.679" EndTime="2082.672" Participant="me013">
      S_R_I recognition experiments?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2083.792" EndTime="2084.251" Participant="me013">
      <Pronounce Pronunciation="&quot;whazzat&quot;"> What's that?  </Pronounce>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2084.136" EndTime="2085.406" Participant="mn017">
      S_R_I recognition? <Comment Description="quietly"/> Oh.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2085.590" EndTime="2086.339" Participant="me011">
      That wasn't me.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2086.657" EndTime="2087.320" Participant="mn017">
      Um.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2086.918" EndTime="2087.595" Participant="me013">
      <Uncertain> Uh. Who's that? </Uncertain>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2087.672" EndTime="2088.025" Participant="mn017">
      well,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2088.480" EndTime="2088.936" Participant="mn017">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2088.756" EndTime="2089.356" Participant="mn014">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2088.936" EndTime="2089.434" Participant="mn017">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2089.434" EndTime="2091.309" Participant="mn017">
      we have lots of them. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2090.161" EndTime="2090.715" Participant="fe016">
      <VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2090.350" EndTime="2091.479" Participant="mn014">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2090.365" EndTime="2091.461" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2090.388" EndTime="2091.294" Participant="me018">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2090.589" EndTime="2090.914" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2090.659" EndTime="2090.897" Participant="me001">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2091.578" EndTime="2092.096" Participant="mn017">
      Uh,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2092.158" EndTime="2093.381" Participant="mn017">
      I dunno. Chuck, do you have any -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2093.567" EndTime="2094.272" Participant="mn017">
      any updates?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2093.583" EndTime="2093.943" Participant="me018">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2093.620" EndTime="2095.123" Participant="mn014">
      <VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2094.164" EndTime="2094.999" Participant="me018">
      N- I'm
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2095.220" EndTime="2097.651" Participant="me018">
      successfully, uh, increasing the error rate.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2097.798" EndTime="2098.259" Participant="me018">
      Uh -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2098.130" EndTime="2100.102" Participant="fe016">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2098.189" EndTime="2098.828" Participant="me011">
      That's good.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2098.259" EndTime="2101.290" Participant="me018">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2098.290" EndTime="2098.702" Participant="mn017">
      Oh.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2098.372" EndTime="2098.945" Participant="me001">
      Mmm.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2098.957" EndTime="2100.884" Participant="mn014">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2099.099" EndTime="2100.173" Participant="me051">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2099.448" EndTime="2100.111" Participant="mn017">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2099.917" EndTime="2100.478" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2100.102" EndTime="2101.343" Participant="fe016">
      Lift the Herve approach. <Comment Description="while laughing"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2100.111" EndTime="2100.754" Participant="mn017">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2101.121" EndTime="2102.194" Participant="mn014">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2101.290" EndTime="2101.791" Participant="me018">
      Yeah. <Comment Description="while laughing"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2101.343" EndTime="2101.881" Participant="fe016">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2101.791" EndTime="2102.111" Participant="me018">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2101.924" EndTime="2102.445" Participant="me001">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2102.111" EndTime="2103.854" Participant="me018">
      So, I mean I'm just playing with, um,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2103.854" EndTime="2107.240" Participant="me018">
      the number of Gaussians that we use in the - the recognizer, and -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2107.260" EndTime="2111.432" Participant="mn017">
      Well, you have to sa- you have to <Pause/> tell people that you're - you're doing - you're trying the <Emphasis> tandem </Emphasis> features.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2111.434" EndTime="2113.503" Participant="me018">
      Yes, I'm using tandem features. <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2112.550" EndTime="2113.419" Participant="me011">
      Oh you are? Cool.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2112.820" EndTime="2114.148" Participant="mn017">
      A- and I'm still
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2113.503" EndTime="2116.108" Participant="me018">
      And - <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2113.810" EndTime="2113.935" Participant="me011">
      <Uncertain NumSyllables="1"> @@ </Uncertain> <Comment Description="uncodeable vocal sound"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2114.532" EndTime="2116.423" Participant="mn017">
      tinkering with the P_L_P features.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2116.670" EndTime="2119.875" Participant="me013">
      Yeah, I got confused by the results. It sai- because - uh, the <Pause/> meeting before,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2119.875" EndTime="2120.195" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2120.195" EndTime="2123.522" Participant="me013">
      you said "O_K, we got it down to where they're - they're within a tenth of a percent".
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2122.178" EndTime="2123.300" Participant="me018">
      That was on <Emphasis> males. </Emphasis>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2122.191" EndTime="2122.524" Participant="mn017">
      Right.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2122.524" EndTime="2122.905" Participant="mn017">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2122.905" EndTime="2125.121" Participant="mn017">
      That was - that was before I tried it on the females.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2125.116" EndTime="2125.708" Participant="me013">
      <Emphasis> Oh. </Emphasis>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2125.121" EndTime="2127.266" Participant="mn017">
      See, women are nothi- are,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2125.961" EndTime="2126.301" Participant="mn014">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2125.967" EndTime="2127.495" Participant="me013">
      It's the <Emphasis> women </Emphasis> are the problem. O_K.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2127.386" EndTime="2129.139" Participant="mn017">
      trouble. Right? As we all know. So.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2127.448" EndTime="2128.554" Participant="me051">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2127.514" EndTime="2129.644" Participant="me018">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2127.572" EndTime="2130.770" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2127.779" EndTime="2128.469" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="mock growl"/> <Comment Description="vocal gesture of mock anger"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2127.939" EndTime="2131.304" Participant="mn014">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2128.893" EndTime="2130.831" Participant="me001">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh, &quot;tsssss&quot;"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2129.139" EndTime="2129.657" Participant="mn017">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2129.310" EndTime="2131.133" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2129.409" EndTime="2129.746" Participant="fe016">
      <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2129.657" EndTime="2130.693" Participant="mn017">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2129.746" EndTime="2131.700" Participant="fe016">
      Well, let's just say that men are simple.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2130.831" EndTime="2131.427" Participant="me001">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2131.689" EndTime="2133.267" Participant="mn017">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2131.696" EndTime="2133.085" Participant="me001">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2131.737" EndTime="2137.295" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2131.787" EndTime="2136.815" Participant="me018">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2131.804" EndTime="2133.185" Participant="me051">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2131.832" EndTime="2136.458" Participant="mn014">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2131.928" EndTime="2134.508" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2133.267" EndTime="2134.342" Participant="mn017">
      So - <Comment Description="while laughing"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2134.601" EndTime="2135.438" Participant="mn017">
      so, when -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2134.820" EndTime="2136.065" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2135.558" EndTime="2136.813" Participant="mn017">
      So I - I had -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2136.359" EndTime="2136.657" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2136.657" EndTime="2137.965" Participant="me011">
      That was a quick response.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2137.291" EndTime="2137.962" Participant="mn017">
      I ha-
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2137.676" EndTime="2138.858" Participant="me018">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2137.829" EndTime="2139.776" Participant="mn014">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2137.962" EndTime="2139.914" Participant="mn017">
      So, we had reached the point where -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2138.135" EndTime="2138.753" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2138.448" EndTime="2138.619" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2138.858" EndTime="2139.259" Participant="me018">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2139.220" EndTime="2140.644" Participant="fe016">
      I'm well rehearsed. <Comment Description="while laughing"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2139.259" EndTime="2139.720" Participant="me018">
      <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2140.201" EndTime="2140.802" Participant="me018">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2140.395" EndTime="2140.535" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2140.455" EndTime="2141.093" Participant="me013">
      Yeah. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2140.555" EndTime="2141.286" Participant="me051">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2140.920" EndTime="2142.339" Participant="mn014">
      <VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2140.936" EndTime="2141.270" Participant="me001">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2141.182" EndTime="2141.563" Participant="me018">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2141.508" EndTime="2143.094" Participant="mn017">
      we had reached the point where, <Comment Description="while laughing"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2143.492" EndTime="2143.918" Participant="mn017">
      um,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2144.098" EndTime="2146.588" Participant="mn017">
      on the male portion of the <Pause/> development set,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2146.728" EndTime="2147.385" Participant="mn017">
      the,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2147.385" EndTime="2148.043" Participant="mn017">
      um -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2148.175" EndTime="2149.849" Participant="mn017">
      or one of the development sets, I should say -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2149.849" EndTime="2150.247" Participant="mn017">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2150.247" EndTime="2151.363" Participant="mn017">
      the, um -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2151.502" EndTime="2154.727" Participant="mn017">
      the male error rate with, uh, ICSI P_L_P features
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2155.046" EndTime="2155.544" Participant="mn017">
      was
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2155.823" EndTime="2156.919" Participant="mn017">
      pretty much identical
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2157.138" EndTime="2158.334" Participant="mn017">
      with, uh, S_R_I
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2159.067" EndTime="2159.505" Participant="mn017">
      features.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2159.505" EndTime="2160.302" Participant="mn017">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2160.302" EndTime="2161.774" Participant="mn017">
      which are <Pause/> M_F_C_C. So,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2162.451" EndTime="2163.020" Participant="mn017">
      um,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2163.319" EndTime="2164.754" Participant="mn017">
      then I thought, "Oh, great.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2164.853" EndTime="2165.610" Participant="mn017">
      I'll j- I'll -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2165.770" EndTime="2168.579" Participant="mn017">
      just let's make sure everything works on the females." And
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2168.758" EndTime="2169.256" Participant="mn017">
      the error rate -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2168.861" EndTime="2169.508" Participant="me013">
      Oh.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2169.396" EndTime="2171.189" Participant="mn017">
      you know, there was a three percent difference.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2171.376" EndTime="2171.782" Participant="me013">
      Uh-huh.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2171.388" EndTime="2171.827" Participant="mn017">
      So,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2172.723" EndTime="2172.982" Participant="mn017">
      <VocalSound Description="mouth"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2172.947" EndTime="2174.350" Participant="fe016">
      Is there less training data?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2172.982" EndTime="2173.361" Participant="mn017">
      uh -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2175.083" EndTime="2176.525" Participant="mn017">
      No, actually there's more training data.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2175.087" EndTime="2175.685" Participant="fe016">
      I mean, we don-
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2176.462" EndTime="2177.956" Participant="fe016">
      This is on just digits?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2178.139" EndTime="2178.684" Participant="mn017">
      No, no.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2178.514" EndTime="2180.626" Participant="fe016">
      Oh, sorry. O_K. This is on - Oh, O_K.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2178.587" EndTime="2179.032" Participant="me013">
      No. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2178.648" EndTime="2179.710" Participant="me011">
      No. It's, uh, Swi-
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2179.100" EndTime="2179.864" Participant="me018">
      Hub-five.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2179.313" EndTime="2180.250" Participant="mn017">
      This is Hub-five.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2180.438" EndTime="2181.061" Participant="me011">
      Hub-five. Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2181.086" EndTime="2181.425" Participant="mn017">
      Yeah. <Comment Description="very quietly"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2182.122" EndTime="2184.611" Participant="mn017">
      Um, and the test data is CallHome and Switchboard.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2185.148" EndTime="2185.627" Participant="mn017">
      So,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2186.304" EndTime="2188.715" Participant="mn017">
      uh - so then <Pause/> um -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2188.795" EndTime="2190.090" Participant="mn017">
      Oh, and plus the -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2190.378" EndTime="2192.410" Participant="mn017">
      the vocal tract <Pause/> length normalization
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2192.490" EndTime="2192.948" Participant="mn017">
      didn't -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2193.108" EndTime="2194.363" Participant="mn017">
      actually made things <Emphasis> worse. </Emphasis>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2194.363" EndTime="2196.455" Participant="mn017">
      So something's really seriously wrong. So -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2196.632" EndTime="2197.190" Participant="mn017">
      <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2197.389" EndTime="2198.049" Participant="mn017">
      Um -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2198.095" EndTime="2198.807" Participant="me013">
      Aha! <Comment Description="lengthened"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2199.366" EndTime="2200.462" Participant="mn017">
      Hhh. <Comment Description="vocal gesture of difficulty"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2200.462" EndTime="2201.097" Participant="mn017">
      So -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2200.575" EndTime="2201.227" Participant="me013">
      O_K.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2201.274" EndTime="2202.074" Participant="mn017">
      So -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2201.381" EndTime="2204.107" Participant="me013">
      So - but you see, now, between - between the males
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2204.571" EndTime="2206.961" Participant="me013">
      and the females, there's certainly a much bigger
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2207.193" EndTime="2208.623" Participant="me013">
      difference in the scaling
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2208.991" EndTime="2209.685" Participant="me013">
      range,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2210.478" EndTime="2212.469" Participant="me013">
      than there is, say, just within the males.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2212.971" EndTime="2219.138" Participant="me013">
      And what you were using before was scaling factors that were just from the - the m- the <Pause/> S_R_I front-end.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2219.525" EndTime="2221.331" Participant="me013">
      And that worked - that worked fine.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2219.653" EndTime="2220.313" Participant="mn017">
      That's true.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2221.190" EndTime="2221.554" Participant="mn017">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2222.143" EndTime="2222.605" Participant="me013">
      Uh,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2222.605" EndTime="2226.491" Participant="me013">
      but now you're looking over a larger range and it may not be so fine.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2227.232" EndTime="2228.069" Participant="mn017">
      Well, um -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2228.149" EndTime="2228.587" Participant="mn017">
      So -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2228.806" EndTime="2229.484" Participant="mn017">
      I just -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2230.301" EndTime="2232.916" Participant="mn017">
      d- so the one thing that I then tried was to
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2233.254" EndTime="2234.569" Participant="mn017">
      put in the low-pass filter,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2234.828" EndTime="2236.064" Participant="mn017">
      which we have in the -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2236.500" EndTime="2237.456" Participant="mn017">
      So, most -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2237.456" EndTime="2237.855" Participant="mn017">
      most
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2238.114" EndTime="2239.548" Participant="mn017">
      Hub-five systems actually
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2240.385" EndTime="2241.521" Participant="mn017">
      band-limit the -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2241.760" EndTime="2242.856" Participant="mn017">
      uh, at about,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2242.856" EndTime="2243.812" Participant="mn017">
      uh, thirty-seven hundred,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2244.205" EndTime="2244.586" Participant="me013">
      Uh-huh.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2244.370" EndTime="2244.786" Participant="mn017">
      um,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2245.006" EndTime="2245.489" Participant="mn017">
      hertz.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2245.489" EndTime="2247.721" Participant="mn017">
      Although, you know, normally, I mean, the channel goes to
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2247.963" EndTime="2248.262" Participant="mn017">
      four -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2248.374" EndTime="2249.475" Participant="mn017">
      four thousand. Right? So,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2250.091" EndTime="2250.651" Participant="mn017">
      um -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2251.229" EndTime="2252.386" Participant="mn017">
      And that actually helped,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2252.776" EndTime="2253.187" Participant="mn017">
      uh -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2253.034" EndTime="2253.421" Participant="me013">
      Uh-huh.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2253.392" EndTime="2253.821" Participant="mn017">
      uh,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2253.933" EndTime="2254.474" Participant="mn017">
      a little bit.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2255.109" EndTime="2257.460" Participant="mn017">
      Um <Pause/> and it didn't hurt on the males either. So,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2257.852" EndTime="2258.449" Participant="mn017">
      um -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2258.620" EndTime="2258.732" Participant="mn017">
      <VocalSound Description="dental click"/> <Comment Description="vocal gesture"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2258.897" EndTime="2259.684" Participant="mn017">
      And I'm now,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2260.001" EndTime="2260.542" Participant="mn017">
      uh,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2260.710" EndTime="2261.400" Participant="mn017">
      trying
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2261.456" EndTime="2262.184" Participant="mn017">
      the -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2262.445" EndTime="2267.204" Participant="mn017">
      Oh, and suddenly, also the v- the vocal tract length normalization only in the <Emphasis> test </Emphasis> se- on the <Emphasis> test </Emphasis> data.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2267.969" EndTime="2269.827" Participant="mn017">
      So, you can do vocal tract length normalization
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2269.282" EndTime="2269.551" Participant="me013">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2270.331" EndTime="2273.217" Participant="mn017">
      on the test data only or on both the training and the test.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2274.004" EndTime="2274.508" Participant="mn017">
      And
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2274.900" EndTime="2279.907" Participant="mn017">
      you expect it to help a <Emphasis> little </Emphasis> bit if you do it only on the <Emphasis> test, </Emphasis> and s- more if you do it on both training and test.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2279.468" EndTime="2279.816" Participant="me013">
      Yeah. <Comment Description="while laughing"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2280.467" EndTime="2280.940" Participant="mn017">
      And
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2281.519" EndTime="2282.545" Participant="mn017">
      so the -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2282.900" EndTime="2283.926" Participant="mn017">
      It now helps,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2283.926" EndTime="2285.624" Participant="mn017">
      if you do it only on the test, and
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2285.717" EndTime="2290.177" Participant="mn017">
      I'm currently retraining <Emphasis> another </Emphasis> set of models where it's both in the training and the test, and then
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2287.942" EndTime="2288.207" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2290.681" EndTime="2290.960" Participant="mn017">
      we'll -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2291.165" EndTime="2291.781" Participant="mn017">
      we'll have,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2292.049" EndTime="2293.536" Participant="mn017">
      hopefully, even better results. So -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2293.536" EndTime="2293.690" Participant="mn017">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2293.690" EndTime="2294.080" Participant="mn017">
      But there's -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2294.337" EndTime="2296.499" Participant="mn017">
      It looks like there will still be some difference,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2296.499" EndTime="2296.967" Participant="mn017">
      maybe
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2297.663" EndTime="2298.939" Participant="mn017">
      between one and two percent,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2299.634" EndTime="2300.104" Participant="mn017">
      um,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2300.016" EndTime="2300.343" Participant="me013">
      Huh.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2300.450" EndTime="2301.931" Participant="mn017">
      for the females. And so,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2301.931" EndTime="2302.354" Participant="mn017">
      um,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2302.823" EndTime="2304.345" Participant="mn017">
      you know, I'm open to suggestions.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2304.118" EndTime="2304.771" Participant="me018">
      <VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2304.345" EndTime="2304.647" Participant="mn017">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2304.647" EndTime="2306.551" Participant="mn017">
      And it <Emphasis> is </Emphasis> true that the, uh - that the -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2304.676" EndTime="2305.175" Participant="me011">
      Mm-hmm.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2306.551" EndTime="2306.778" Participant="mn017">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2306.778" EndTime="2308.123" Participant="mn017">
      you know, we <Emphasis> are </Emphasis> using the -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2309.119" EndTime="2309.429" Participant="mn017">
      But -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2309.429" EndTime="2309.696" Participant="mn017">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2309.696" EndTime="2310.837" Participant="mn017">
      it <Emphasis> can't </Emphasis> be just the
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2310.908" EndTime="2311.513" Participant="mn017">
      V_T_L,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2310.917" EndTime="2311.297" Participant="me013">
      Uh-huh.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2311.593" EndTime="2312.091" Participant="mn017">
      because
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2312.203" EndTime="2314.546" Participant="mn017">
      if you <Emphasis> don't </Emphasis> do V_T_L in both systems,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2312.298" EndTime="2313.576" Participant="me013">
      No - no. I - I <Pronounce Pronunciation="&quot;member&quot;"> remember  </Pronounce> that.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2313.710" EndTime="2314.472" Participant="me011">
      It's much worse.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2314.546" EndTime="2315.573" Participant="mn017">
      uh, you know, the -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2314.565" EndTime="2315.095" Participant="me011">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2315.926" EndTime="2317.483" Participant="mn017">
      the females are considerably worse
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2317.483" EndTime="2318.029" Participant="mn017">
      in the -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2318.318" EndTime="2319.570" Participant="mn017">
      with the P_L_P features.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2319.570" EndTime="2320.334" Participant="mn017">
      So there must be some -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2320.495" EndTime="2321.414" Participant="mn017">
      something else going on.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2321.981" EndTime="2323.074" Participant="fe016">
      Well, what's the standard - ?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2323.447" EndTime="2326.635" Participant="fe016">
      <Pronounce Pronunciation="&quot;eh&quot;"> Yeah,  </Pronounce> so I thought the performance was actually a little <Emphasis> better </Emphasis> on females than males.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2326.583" EndTime="2327.471" Participant="me011">
      That's what I thought, too. <Comment Description="very quietly"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2327.143" EndTime="2327.817" Participant="mn017">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2327.817" EndTime="2328.347" Participant="mn017">
      Um,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2328.347" EndTime="2332.581" Participant="mn017">
      <Pause/> that <Pause/> ye- <Comment Description="very strained"/> overall, yes, but on this particular development test set,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2332.822" EndTime="2334.170" Participant="mn017">
      they're actually a little worse.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2335.149" EndTime="2338.069" Participant="mn017">
      But that's beside the point. We're looking at the discrepancy between
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2338.181" EndTime="2338.839" Participant="mn017">
      the S_R_I
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2339.112" EndTime="2340.107" Participant="mn017">
      system and the
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2340.428" EndTime="2342.579" Participant="mn017">
      S_R_I system when trained with ICSI features. <Comment Description="decreasing volume"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2343.462" EndTime="2344.564" Participant="fe016">
      Right. I'm just wondering if that -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2345.897" EndTime="2346.855" Participant="me011">
      What's - Are the freq- ?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2346.241" EndTime="2351.935" Participant="fe016">
      if - if you have any indication of your standard features, you know, if that's also different <Pause/> or in the same direction or not.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2350.929" EndTime="2351.103" Participant="me013">
      You're -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2352.089" EndTime="2353.249" Participant="me013">
      This is - lemme ask a q-
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2352.532" EndTime="2353.228" Participant="fe016">
      Cuz - <Comment Description="quietly"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2353.500" EndTime="2355.975" Participant="me013">
      more basic que- I mean, is this, uh - uh,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2353.739" EndTime="2354.012" Participant="mn017">
      Mm-hmm.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2356.110" EndTime="2356.729" Participant="me013">
      iterative,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2356.960" EndTime="2359.699" Participant="me013">
      Baum-Welch training? Or is it Viterbi training? Or - ? <Comment Description="leading question"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2359.436" EndTime="2360.656" Participant="mn017">
      It's Baum-Welch training.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2360.653" EndTime="2361.594" Participant="me013">
      Baum-Welch training.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2361.729" EndTime="2364.494" Participant="me013">
      And how do you determine when to - to stop iterating?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2366.117" EndTime="2366.727" Participant="mn017">
      Um -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2367.634" EndTime="2367.842" Participant="mn017">
      <VocalSound Description="mouth"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2367.842" EndTime="2368.901" Participant="mn017">
      Well, actually,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2369.399" EndTime="2371.501" Participant="mn017">
      we - we just basically do a s-
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2371.646" EndTime="2373.343" Participant="mn017">
      a fixed number of iterations.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2373.600" EndTime="2374.021" Participant="me011">
      Hmm.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2373.907" EndTime="2375.272" Participant="mn017">
      Uh, in this case four.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2376.170" EndTime="2376.732" Participant="mn017">
      Um,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2377.053" EndTime="2377.502" Participant="mn017">
      which -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2377.727" EndTime="2379.685" Participant="mn017">
      Eh, we used to do only three, and then we
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2379.834" EndTime="2381.163" Participant="mn017">
      found out we can squeeze -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2381.293" EndTime="2381.828" Participant="mn017">
      And it was
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2382.102" EndTime="2382.651" Participant="mn017">
      basically,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2383.012" EndTime="2387.399" Participant="mn017">
      we're s- we're keeping it on the safe side. But you're d- Right. It might be that one more iteration
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2387.399" EndTime="2388.099" Participant="mn017">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2388.287" EndTime="2390.800" Participant="mn017">
      would - would help, but it's sort of <Pause/> you know.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2390.405" EndTime="2393.815" Participant="me013">
      Or maybe - or maybe you're doing one too <Emphasis> many. </Emphasis> I mean it's - it's -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2391.046" EndTime="2391.956" Participant="mn017">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2393.143" EndTime="2393.652" Participant="mn014">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2393.440" EndTime="2395.188" Participant="mn017">
      No, but with Baum-Welch,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2395.289" EndTime="2398.048" Participant="mn017">
      there shouldn't be an over-fitting issue, really.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2395.954" EndTime="2396.807" Participant="me013">
      <Uncertain NumSyllables="2"> @@ </Uncertain> <Comment Description="uncodeable vocal sounds"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2396.807" EndTime="2399.552" Participant="me013">
      Uh. <Comment Description="lengthened"/> Well, there can be. Sure.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2399.868" EndTime="2400.431" Participant="mn017">
      Um.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2400.189" EndTime="2402.852" Participant="me011">
      Well, you can try each one on a cross-validation set, can't you?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2401.123" EndTime="2406.766" Participant="me013">
      It d- if you - if you remember some years ago Bill Byrne did a thing where he was - he was looking at that, and he showed that you <Emphasis> could </Emphasis> get it. So. <Comment Description="decreasing volume"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2405.646" EndTime="2406.076" Participant="mn017">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2406.978" EndTime="2407.191" Participant="me013">
      But - <Comment Description="quietly"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2407.390" EndTime="2408.589" Participant="mn017">
      Well, yeah. We can -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2407.481" EndTime="2407.868" Participant="me013">
      but -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2407.868" EndTime="2408.854" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2408.854" EndTime="2409.791" Participant="me013">
      but, um -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2410.233" EndTime="2412.585" Participant="mn017">
      Well, that's - that's the easy one to check, because
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2411.181" EndTime="2411.634" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2412.376" EndTime="2412.767" Participant="me013">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2412.682" EndTime="2413.196" Participant="me011">
      Do you - ?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2412.773" EndTime="2414.996" Participant="mn017">
      we save all the intermediate models and we can -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2415.147" EndTime="2416.260" Participant="me013">
      And in each case, ho-
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2415.533" EndTime="2415.704" Participant="me011">
      What - ?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2416.260" EndTime="2418.832" Participant="me013">
      um, I'm sorry - in each case how do you determine,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2418.967" EndTime="2421.795" Participant="me013">
      you know, the - the usual <Pause/> fudge factors? The, uh -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2421.795" EndTime="2422.397" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2422.397" EndTime="2426.347" Participant="me013">
      the, uh, language, uh, scaling, acoustic scaling, uh,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2426.307" EndTime="2427.761" Participant="mn017">
      Um <Pause/> I uh - <Comment Description="creaky voice on &quot;uh&quot;"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2426.347" EndTime="2427.028" Participant="me013">
      uh -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2428.347" EndTime="2430.486" Participant="mn017">
      I'm actually re-optimizing them.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2431.899" EndTime="2435.176" Participant="mn017">
      Although that hasn't shown to make <Pause/> a big difference. <Comment Description="quietly, and slower tempo"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2434.853" EndTime="2438.285" Participant="me013">
      O_K. And the pru- the question he was asking at one point about pruning,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2439.158" EndTime="2440.035" Participant="me013">
      uh -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2442.855" EndTime="2443.509" Participant="mn017">
      Pruning - ?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2443.001" EndTime="2443.681" Participant="me013">
      Remember that one?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2443.681" EndTime="2443.997" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2443.920" EndTime="2444.693" Participant="mn017">
      Pruning in the - ?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2443.997" EndTime="2451.789" Participant="me013">
      Well, he was - he's - it looked like the probabil- at one point he was looking at the probabilities he was getting out - at the likelihoods he was getting out of P_L_P versus mel cepstrum, and they looked pretty different,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2452.973" EndTime="2454.693" Participant="me018">
      Yeah, the likelihoods were <Pause/> lower
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2453.140" EndTime="2453.787" Participant="me013">
      as I recall.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2454.110" EndTime="2455.551" Participant="fe016">
      Oh. <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2454.929" EndTime="2455.260" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2455.260" EndTime="2457.441" Participant="me013">
      And so, uh, there's the question -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2456.974" EndTime="2457.595" Participant="me018">
      for the P_L_P.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2457.328" EndTime="2457.806" Participant="mn017">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2457.806" EndTime="2458.457" Participant="mn017">
      I- you mean -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2458.717" EndTime="2460.653" Participant="mn017">
      did you see this in the S_R_I system?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2461.118" EndTime="2461.499" Participant="me018">
      Mm-hmm.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2461.553" EndTime="2462.087" Participant="mn017">
      Um.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2461.665" EndTime="2463.943" Participant="me018">
      Was just looking through the log files, and - <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2463.127" EndTime="2464.803" Participant="mn017">
      Well, the likelihoods are -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2465.106" EndTime="2466.666" Participant="mn017">
      You can't directly compare them,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2467.157" EndTime="2470.889" Participant="mn017">
      because, for every set of models you compute a new normalization.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2471.770" EndTime="2472.894" Participant="mn017">
      And so these
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2472.937" EndTime="2474.340" Participant="mn017">
      log probabilities, they aren't
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2474.759" EndTime="2479.236" Participant="mn017">
      directly <Pronounce Pronunciation="&quot;com-*par-able&quot;"> comparable  </Pronounce> because you have a different normalization constants for each model you train. So -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2475.304" EndTime="2476.069" Participant="me018">
      <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> Oh.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2479.194" EndTime="2479.668" Participant="me018">
      Hmm.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2479.351" EndTime="2483.925" Participant="me013">
      But, still it's a question - if you have some threshold somewhere in terms of beam search or something, or - ? <Comment Description="leading question"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2483.294" EndTime="2485.064" Participant="me018">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> Well, yeah. That's what I was wondering.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2484.189" EndTime="2485.272" Participant="mn017">
      W- yeah. I mean -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2486.442" EndTime="2487.390" Participant="mn017">
      Uh - <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2487.366" EndTime="2489.289" Participant="me018">
      I mean, if you have one threshold that works well
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2489.289" EndTime="2489.830" Participant="me018">
      because
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2489.830" EndTime="2491.673" Participant="me018">
      the range of your likelihoods is in
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2491.465" EndTime="2491.766" Participant="mn017">
      <VocalSound Description="mouth"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2491.733" EndTime="2492.400" Participant="me018">
      this area -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2491.766" EndTime="2494.019" Participant="mn017">
      We prune very conservatively. I mean,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2494.336" EndTime="2496.294" Participant="mn017">
      as we saw with the meeting data,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2497.175" EndTime="2498.604" Participant="mn017">
      um <Pause/> we could probably
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2498.820" EndTime="2500.554" Participant="mn017">
      tighten the pruning without really -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2500.770" EndTime="2503.139" Participant="mn017">
      So we- we basically we have a very open beam.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2502.997" EndTime="2508.585" Participant="me013">
      But, you're only talking about a percent or two. Right? Here we're- we're saying that we- there - gee, there's this b- eh, there's this difference here.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2503.527" EndTime="2503.813" Participant="me018">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2508.585" EndTime="2509.127" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2509.127" EndTime="2509.638" Participant="me013">
      And <Pause/> it -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2509.638" EndTime="2509.939" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2509.939" EndTime="2510.992" Participant="me013">
      See cuz, i- i- <Comment Description="uncodeable sounds"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2510.992" EndTime="2513.809" Participant="me013">
      there could be lots of things. Right? But - but - but - but,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2512.106" EndTime="2512.530" Participant="mn017">
      Right.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2512.805" EndTime="2513.137" Participant="mn017">
      Course.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2513.809" EndTime="2514.275" Participant="me013">
      um,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2514.727" EndTime="2518.141" Participant="me013">
      let's suppose just for a second that, uh, we've sort of
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2519.528" EndTime="2528.159" Participant="me013">
      taken out a lot of the - the major differences, uh, between the two. I mean, we're already sort of using the mel scale and we're using the same style filter integration, and
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2520.690" EndTime="2521.008" Participant="mn017">
      Mm-hmm.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2522.287" EndTime="2522.624" Participant="mn017">
      Right.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2528.159" EndTime="2528.687" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2528.687" EndTime="2531.015" Participant="me013">
      and, well, we're making sure that low and high -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2529.370" EndTime="2533.439" Participant="mn017">
      Actually, there is - the difference in that. So, for the P_L_P features we use the triangular
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2534.034" EndTime="2535.377" Participant="mn017">
      filter shapes. And for the -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2536.070" EndTime="2538.290" Participant="mn017">
      in the S_R_I front-end we use the trapezoidal one.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2538.535" EndTime="2540.151" Participant="me011">
      And what's the top frequency of each?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2540.884" EndTime="2541.907" Participant="mn017">
      Well, now it's the same.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2542.066" EndTime="2542.543" Participant="mn017">
      It's thirty -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2542.629" EndTime="2544.565" Participant="mn017">
      thirty to seven hundred and sixty hertz.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2543.589" EndTime="2546.441" Participant="me011">
      Yeah. Exp- one's triangular, one's trapezoidal. So -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2546.328" EndTime="2546.866" Participant="mn017">
      No, no. But -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2547.224" EndTime="2552.730" Participant="me013">
      Before we - i- i- th- with straight P_L_P, it's trapezoidal also. But then we had a slight difference in the - in the scale.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2547.270" EndTime="2547.689" Participant="mn017">
      Well -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2548.195" EndTime="2548.498" Participant="mn017">
      But -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2552.730" EndTime="2553.481" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2553.481" EndTime="2554.533" Participant="me013">
      Uh, so.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2555.114" EndTime="2555.577" Participant="mn017">
      Since
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2555.823" EndTime="2560.878" Participant="mn017">
      currently the Feacalc program doesn't allow me to change <Pause/> the filter shape independently of the scale.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2560.919" EndTime="2561.323" Participant="me011">
      Uh-huh.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2561.701" EndTime="2562.133" Participant="mn017">
      And,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2562.234" EndTime="2565.180" Participant="mn017">
      I did the experiment on the <Emphasis> S_R_I </Emphasis> front-end where I tried the -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2565.527" EndTime="2566.697" Participant="mn017">
      y- where the standard used to be
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2566.999" EndTime="2568.357" Participant="mn017">
      to use trapezoidal filters.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2568.357" EndTime="2568.976" Participant="mn017">
      <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2568.976" EndTime="2571.460" Participant="mn017">
      You can actually continuously vary it between the two. And so I
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2571.605" EndTime="2571.879" Participant="mn017">
      wen-
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2572.255" EndTime="2574.811" Participant="mn017">
      I swi- I tried the trap- eh, triangular ones.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2575.274" EndTime="2577.881" Participant="mn017">
      And it did <Emphasis> slightly </Emphasis> worse, but it's really a small difference.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2576.440" EndTime="2576.783" Participant="me011">
      Hmm.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2577.881" EndTime="2578.271" Participant="mn017">
      So -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2578.043" EndTime="2578.291" Participant="me013">
      Coup-
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2578.366" EndTime="2580.017" Participant="me013">
      Couple tenths of a percent or something. <Uncertain> Right. </Uncertain>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2578.426" EndTime="2582.192" Participant="fe016">
      <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2579.030" EndTime="2580.179" Participant="me011">
      O_K. So it's <Emphasis> not </Emphasis> just
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2579.167" EndTime="2583.014" Participant="mn017">
      Yeah, exactly. So, it's not - I don't think the filter shape by itself will make
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2580.420" EndTime="2581.542" Participant="me011">
      losing some <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2581.542" EndTime="2582.554" Participant="me011">
      frequency range.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2583.236" EndTime="2583.567" Participant="me013">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2583.612" EndTime="2583.908" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2583.635" EndTime="2584.155" Participant="mn017">
      a huge <Comment Description="decreasing volume"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2584.806" EndTime="2585.559" Participant="me013">
      Right. So the oth-
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2584.892" EndTime="2585.470" Participant="mn017">
      difference. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2585.139" EndTime="2585.404" Participant="me011">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2585.559" EndTime="2585.830" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2585.830" EndTime="2586.446" Participant="me013">
      the other
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2586.642" EndTime="2587.890" Participant="me013">
      thing that - So, f-
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2588.101" EndTime="2588.312" Participant="me013">
      i-
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2588.312" EndTime="2588.790" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2588.790" EndTime="2591.980" Participant="me013">
      We've always viewed it, anyway, as the <Emphasis> major </Emphasis> difference between the two,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2592.176" EndTime="2593.680" Participant="me013">
      is actually in the smoothing,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2594.164" EndTime="2594.540" Participant="mn017">
      Mm-hmm.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2594.222" EndTime="2596.012" Participant="me013">
      that the - that the, um,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2596.012" EndTime="2596.493" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2596.493" EndTime="2597.757" Participant="me013">
      P_L_P, and -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2597.757" EndTime="2599.171" Participant="me013">
      and the reason P_L_P has been
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2599.291" EndTime="2602.555" Participant="me013">
      advantageous in, uh, slightly noisy situations is because,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2601.081" EndTime="2601.414" Participant="mn017">
      Mm-hmm.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2602.555" EndTime="2603.022" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2603.022" EndTime="2606.520" Participant="me013">
      P_L_P does the smoothing at the end by an auto-regressive model,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2604.270" EndTime="2604.824" Participant="fe008">
      <NonVocalSound Description="noise"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2606.520" EndTime="2607.002" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2607.002" EndTime="2609.643" Participant="me013">
      and mel cepstrum does it by just computing the lower
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2609.838" EndTime="2610.996" Participant="me013">
      cepstral coefficients.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2611.097" EndTime="2611.458" Participant="mn017">
      Mm-hmm.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2611.804" EndTime="2612.486" Participant="me013">
      Um.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2612.782" EndTime="2613.690" Participant="me013">
      So,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2613.840" EndTime="2614.350" Participant="me013">
      um -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2614.362" EndTime="2618.332" Participant="mn017">
      O_K. So <Pause/> one thing I haven't done yet is to actually do all of this with
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2618.448" EndTime="2619.276" Participant="mn017">
      a much larger -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2619.406" EndTime="2620.865" Participant="mn017">
      with our full training set.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2621.674" EndTime="2623.209" Participant="mn017">
      So right now, we're using a -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2624.390" EndTime="2625.604" Participant="mn017">
      I don't know, forty?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2628.724" EndTime="2631.453" Participant="mn017">
      I- i- it's - it's - <Pronounce Pronunciation="&quot;ehhh&quot;"> eh  </Pronounce> <Comment Description="vocal gesture, greatly lengthened with creaky voice, while pondering"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2631.453" EndTime="2633.417" Participant="mn017">
      it's a f- training set that's about,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2633.590" EndTime="2634.096" Participant="mn017">
      um,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2635.309" EndTime="2639.420" Participant="mn017">
      you know, by a factor of four smaller than what we use when we train the full system. So,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2639.220" EndTime="2639.697" Participant="me013">
      Mm-hmm. <Comment Description="very quietly"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2639.883" EndTime="2643.359" Participant="mn017">
      some of these smoothing issues are over-fitting for that matter. And the Baum-Welch
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2642.537" EndTime="2642.955" Participant="me013">
      Mm-hmm. <Comment Description="very quietly"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2643.966" EndTime="2644.511" Participant="mn017">
      should
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2644.771" EndTime="2646.693" Participant="mn017">
      be much less of a factor, if you go
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2647.790" EndTime="2648.137" Participant="mn017">
      full -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2647.876" EndTime="2648.554" Participant="me013">
      Could be. Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2648.238" EndTime="2649.408" Participant="mn017">
      whole hog. And so,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2650.174" EndTime="2652.037" Participant="mn017">
      w- so, just um -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2652.673" EndTime="2657.626" Participant="mn017">
      so the strategy is to first sort of treat things <Pause/> with fast turn-around on a smaller training set and then,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2657.626" EndTime="2657.949" Participant="mn017">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2657.949" EndTime="2658.738" Participant="mn017">
      when you've sort of,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2658.787" EndTime="2660.620" Participant="mn017">
      narrowed it down, you try it on a
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2660.573" EndTime="2660.947" Participant="me013">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2660.971" EndTime="2662.935" Participant="mn017">
      larger training set. And so, we haven't done that yet.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2663.172" EndTime="2665.504" Participant="me013">
      Now the other que- related question, though, is - is,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2665.822" EndTime="2667.633" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> uh, what's the boot models
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2667.732" EndTime="2668.709" Participant="me013">
      for these things?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2669.033" EndTime="2672.898" Participant="mn017">
      Th- th- the boot models <Emphasis> are </Emphasis> trained from scratch. So we compute, um -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2674.078" EndTime="2676.369" Participant="mn017">
      So, we start with a,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2677.045" EndTime="2677.518" Participant="mn017">
      um,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2678.025" EndTime="2679.100" Participant="mn017">
      alil- alignment
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2679.945" EndTime="2683.117" Participant="mn017">
      that we computed with the b- sort of the best system we have.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2683.862" EndTime="2684.291" Participant="mn017">
      And -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2684.733" EndTime="2687.580" Participant="mn017">
      and then we train from scratch. So we com- we do a,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2687.749" EndTime="2688.854" Participant="mn017">
      you know, w- um -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2689.099" EndTime="2689.255" Participant="mn017">
      <VocalSound Description="mouth"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2689.840" EndTime="2690.908" Participant="mn017">
      We collect the -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2691.259" EndTime="2691.935" Participant="mn017">
      uh,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2693.735" EndTime="2694.759" Participant="mn017">
      the observations
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2694.759" EndTime="2696.995" Participant="mn017">
      from those alignments under each of the feature
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2697.424" EndTime="2699.066" Participant="mn017">
      sets that - that we <Pause/> train.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2699.978" EndTime="2700.537" Participant="mn017">
      And then,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2700.836" EndTime="2701.871" Participant="mn017">
      from there we do,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2701.936" EndTime="2702.456" Participant="mn017">
      um -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2702.521" EndTime="2703.496" Participant="mn017">
      There's a lot of, actually -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2703.496" EndTime="2703.821" Participant="mn017">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2703.821" EndTime="2706.343" Participant="mn017">
      The way it works, you first train a phonetically-tied
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2706.473" EndTime="2707.240" Participant="mn017">
      mixture model.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2707.930" EndTime="2708.476" Participant="mn017">
      Um.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2708.723" EndTime="2709.905" Participant="mn017">
      You do a total of -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2709.983" EndTime="2711.842" Participant="mn017">
      First you do a context-independent
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2710.799" EndTime="2711.135" Participant="me051">
      <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2711.773" EndTime="2712.208" Participant="mn014">
      <VocalSound Description="sniff"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2711.997" EndTime="2714.298" Participant="mn017">
      P_T_M model. Then you switch to a context -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2714.298" EndTime="2715.624" Participant="mn017">
      You do two iterations of that.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2715.624" EndTime="2716.043" Participant="mn017">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2716.043" EndTime="2719.124" Participant="mn017">
      Then you do two iterations of - of - of context-<Emphasis> dependent </Emphasis>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2719.293" EndTime="2720.515" Participant="mn017">
      phonetically-tied mixtures.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2720.515" EndTime="2721.100" Participant="mn017">
      <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2721.100" EndTime="2723.010" Participant="mn017">
      And then from that you - you do the -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2723.374" EndTime="2725.285" Participant="mn017">
      you - you go to a state-clustered model,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2725.471" EndTime="2725.912" Participant="me013">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2725.701" EndTime="2729.783" Participant="mn017">
      and you do four iterations of that. So there's a <Emphasis> lot </Emphasis> of iterations overall between your
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2729.913" EndTime="2732.851" Participant="mn017">
      original boot models and the final models. I don't think that -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2733.628" EndTime="2734.112" Participant="mn017">
      Hmm.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2734.593" EndTime="2735.660" Participant="mn017">
      We have never seen big
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2735.868" EndTime="2737.818" Participant="mn017">
      differences. Once I thought "oh, I can -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2738.442" EndTime="2743.238" Participant="mn017">
      Now I have these <Emphasis> much </Emphasis> better models. I'll re-generate my initial alignments. Then I'll get much better models at the end."
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2743.407" EndTime="2744.967" Participant="mn017">
      Made no difference whatsoever. It's -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2745.351" EndTime="2745.844" Participant="me013">
      Right.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2745.500" EndTime="2746.591" Participant="mn017">
      I think it's - eh, i- <Comment Description="very very quietly, and strained"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2746.561" EndTime="2746.870" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2746.825" EndTime="2747.904" Participant="mn017">
      the boot models are <Uncertain> recur- </Uncertain>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2746.870" EndTime="2748.935" Participant="me013">
      Well, mis- for making things <Emphasis> better. </Emphasis> Yeah. But,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2748.935" EndTime="2756.347" Participant="me013">
      this for making things <Emphasis> worse. </Emphasis> This it migh- <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> Th- the thought is - is - is <Emphasis> possible </Emphasis> - another possible <Pause/> partial cause is if the boot models
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2753.441" EndTime="2753.817" Participant="mn017">
      Mm-hmm.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2756.347" EndTime="2756.725" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2756.725" EndTime="2758.738" Participant="me013">
      used a comple- used a different feature set,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2759.017" EndTime="2759.433" Participant="mn017">
      Mm-hmm.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2760.231" EndTime="2761.248" Participant="me013">
      that - <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2760.265" EndTime="2761.840" Participant="mn017">
      But there <Emphasis> are </Emphasis> no boot models, in fact.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2761.840" EndTime="2762.113" Participant="mn017">
      <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2762.113" EndTime="2765.311" Participant="mn017">
      You - you're not booting from initial models. You're booting from initial alignments.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2765.232" EndTime="2767.034" Participant="me013">
      Which you got from a different feature set.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2767.664" EndTime="2768.093" Participant="mn017">
      <Uncertain NumSyllables="1"> @@ </Uncertain>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2768.093" EndTime="2768.882" Participant="mn017">
      That's correct.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2768.845" EndTime="2771.335" Participant="me013">
      So, those features <Emphasis> look </Emphasis> at the data differently, actually.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2769.090" EndTime="2769.636" Participant="mn017">
      Yeah, but -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2771.993" EndTime="2777.504" Participant="me013">
      I mean, you know, they - they will find boundaries a little differently, though - You know, all th- all that sort of thing is actually slightly different.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2777.504" EndTime="2778.659" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2778.659" EndTime="2780.487" Participant="me013">
      I'd expect it to be a minor effect, but -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2779.070" EndTime="2780.821" Participant="mn017">
      But - but - but, what I'm - what I'm saying is -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2780.821" EndTime="2781.146" Participant="mn017">
      <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2781.146" EndTime="2781.562" Participant="mn017">
      So,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2783.035" EndTime="2783.591" Participant="mn017">
      we e-
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2783.591" EndTime="2784.605" Participant="mn017">
      w- f- w-
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2784.605" EndTime="2787.101" Participant="mn017">
      For a long time we had used boot alignments
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2787.777" EndTime="2788.163" Participant="mn017">
      that
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2788.319" EndTime="2790.282" Participant="mn017">
      had been trained with a -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2791.121" EndTime="2791.329" Participant="mn017">
      <VocalSound Description="mouth"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2791.407" EndTime="2794.787" Participant="mn017">
      with the same <Emphasis> front-end </Emphasis> but with acoustic models that were,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2795.307" EndTime="2797.823" Participant="mn017">
      like, fifteen percent worse than what we use now.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2795.546" EndTime="2795.803" Participant="me001">
      <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2797.030" EndTime="2797.488" Participant="me013">
      Mm-hmm.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2798.486" EndTime="2804.951" Participant="mn017">
      And with a dict- different dictionary - with a <Emphasis> considerably </Emphasis> different dictionary, which was much less detailed and much less well-suited.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2802.091" EndTime="2802.589" Participant="me013">
      Mm-hmm.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2804.302" EndTime="2804.701" Participant="me013">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2804.951" EndTime="2805.523" Participant="mn017">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2805.523" EndTime="2806.145" Participant="mn017">
      And so,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2806.145" EndTime="2806.444" Participant="mn017">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2806.444" EndTime="2810.396" Participant="mn017">
      then we switched to new boot alignments, which - which now had the benefit of all these
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2811.072" EndTime="2813.385" Participant="mn017">
      improvements that we've made over two years in the system.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2813.602" EndTime="2813.946" Participant="me013">
      Right.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2814.251" EndTime="2814.550" Participant="mn017">
      And,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2815.096" EndTime="2816.878" Participant="mn017">
      the result in the end was no different.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2817.333" EndTime="2817.652" Participant="me013">
      Right.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2817.344" EndTime="2820.464" Participant="mn017">
      So, what I'm saying is, the exact nature of these boot alignments is
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2820.828" EndTime="2823.999" Participant="mn017">
      probably not <Pause/> a big factor in the quality of the final models. <Comment Description="decreasing volume"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2825.382" EndTime="2826.083" Participant="me013">
      Yeah, maybe not.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2826.243" EndTime="2828.654" Participant="me013">
      But <Pause/> it - it - I st- still see it as - I mean,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2826.287" EndTime="2826.638" Participant="mn017">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2827.054" EndTime="2827.366" Participant="mn017">
      <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2828.654" EndTime="2829.291" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2829.291" EndTime="2832.353" Participant="me013">
      there's - there's a history to this, too, but I - uh, I don't wanna go into, but -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2831.084" EndTime="2831.448" Participant="mn017">
      Mm-hmm.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2832.353" EndTime="2834.803" Participant="me013">
      but I - I - I th- I think it <Emphasis> could </Emphasis> be
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2832.410" EndTime="2832.683" Participant="mn017">
      <Pronounce Pronunciation="&quot;yeah&quot;+&quot;right&quot;"> Yeah.  </Pronounce>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2835.600" EndTime="2836.604" Participant="me013">
      the things <Pause/> that it -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2836.743" EndTime="2838.946" Participant="me013">
      the <Emphasis> data </Emphasis> is being viewed in a certain way,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2838.805" EndTime="2839.104" Participant="mn017">
      Right.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2838.946" EndTime="2839.544" Participant="me013">
      uh, that
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2839.584" EndTime="2840.400" Participant="me013">
      a beginning
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2840.569" EndTime="2845.150" Participant="me013">
      is <Emphasis> here </Emphasis> rather than <Emphasis> there </Emphasis> and so forth, because the actual signal-processing you're doing is slightly different.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2844.239" EndTime="2844.538" Participant="mn017">
      Right.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2845.252" EndTime="2845.451" Participant="me013">
      But,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2845.451" EndTime="2846.168" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2845.760" EndTime="2846.033" Participant="mn017">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2846.168" EndTime="2847.525" Participant="me013">
      it's - it's - that's probably not it.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2846.855" EndTime="2847.277" Participant="mn017">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2847.277" EndTime="2849.243" Participant="mn017">
      Anyway, I - I - I should really reserve,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2849.321" EndTime="2849.737" Participant="mn017">
      uh,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2849.828" EndTime="2852.155" Participant="mn017">
      any conclusions until we've done it on the
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2852.506" EndTime="2853.520" Participant="mn017">
      large training set,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2854.258" EndTime="2858.500" Participant="mn017">
      um, and until we've seen the results with the - with the V_T_L in training. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2857.733" EndTime="2858.544" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2858.641" EndTime="2859.057" Participant="mn017">
      So.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2858.791" EndTime="2861.833" Participant="me013">
      Yeah. At <Emphasis> some </Emphasis> point you also might wanna <Emphasis> take </Emphasis> the same thing and try it on,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2859.902" EndTime="2860.239" Participant="mn017">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2861.833" EndTime="2865.720" Participant="me013">
      uh, some Broadcast News data or something else that actually has - has some noisy -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2865.720" EndTime="2866.520" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2866.520" EndTime="2868.253" Participant="me013">
      noisy components, so we can see
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2868.333" EndTime="2870.405" Participant="me013">
      if any conclusions we come to holds
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2870.505" EndTime="2871.879" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> across <Pause/> different data. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2870.734" EndTime="2871.020" Participant="mn017">
      Right.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2872.138" EndTime="2873.513" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2873.689" EndTime="2875.420" Participant="me013">
      Uh - <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2873.736" EndTime="2873.962" Participant="mn017">
      <VocalSound Description="mouth"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2873.962" EndTime="2876.492" Participant="mn017">
      And, uh, with <Emphasis> this, </Emphasis> I have to leave. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2876.027" EndTime="2876.613" Participant="me001">
      Hmm!
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2876.159" EndTime="2876.522" Participant="me013">
      O_K.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2876.492" EndTime="2877.428" Participant="mn017">
      <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/> <Uncertain> With this said. </Uncertain>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2876.522" EndTime="2879.140" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> So, is there something quick about Absinthe <Pause/> that you - ?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2877.428" EndTime="2880.926" Participant="mn017">
      <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2878.620" EndTime="2881.210" Participant="me011">
      Uh. Just what we were talking about before, which is that I
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2881.382" EndTime="2883.345" Participant="me011">
      ported a <Uncertain> Blass </Uncertain> library to Absinthe,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2883.345" EndTime="2884.279" Participant="me011">
      and then got -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2884.373" EndTime="2885.837" Participant="me011">
      got it working with fast-forward,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2886.226" EndTime="2886.990" Participant="me011">
      and got
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2886.267" EndTime="2886.572" Participant="mn017">
      Oh.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2887.487" EndTime="2887.738" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2887.738" EndTime="2892.396" Participant="me011">
      a speedup roughly proportional to the number of processors times the clock cycle. So, that's pretty good.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2891.649" EndTime="2892.038" Participant="mn017">
      Oh!
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2892.350" EndTime="2892.648" Participant="mn017">
      Cool.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2892.396" EndTime="2892.912" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2892.912" EndTime="2897.991" Participant="me011">
      Um, I'm in the process of doing it for Quicknet, but there's something going wrong and it's about half the speed that
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2898.100" EndTime="2900.405" Participant="me011">
      I was estimating it <Emphasis> should </Emphasis> be, and I'm not sure why.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2899.499" EndTime="2899.915" Participant="mn017">
      Mm-hmm.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2900.405" EndTime="2900.826" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2900.826" EndTime="2902.273" Participant="me011">
      But I'll keep working on it. But the -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2902.600" EndTime="2906.648" Participant="me011">
      what it means is that it's likely that for net training and forward passes,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2906.788" EndTime="2907.302" Participant="me011">
      we'll -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2907.380" EndTime="2908.720" Participant="me011">
      Absinthe will be a good machine.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2908.720" EndTime="2909.218" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2909.218" EndTime="2912.147" Participant="me011">
      Especially if we get a few more processors and upgrade the processors.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2912.793" EndTime="2914.958" Participant="mn017">
      A few more processors? How many are you shooting for?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2914.545" EndTime="2916.181" Participant="me011">
      There're five now. It can hold eight.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2916.462" EndTime="2917.011" Participant="mn017">
      Oh, O_K.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2917.253" EndTime="2918.754" Participant="me013">
      Yeah, we'll just go buy <Pronounce Pronunciation="&quot;em&quot;"> them,  </Pronounce> <Uncertain> I guess </Uncertain>.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2918.106" EndTime="2920.722" Participant="me011">
      And it's also five-fifty megahertz and you can get a <Pronounce Pronunciation="&quot;gigahert&quot;"> gigahertz.  </Pronounce>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2918.405" EndTime="2918.724" Participant="mn017">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2920.881" EndTime="2921.539" Participant="me011">
      So. <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2921.612" EndTime="2923.505" Participant="mn017">
      Can you mix <Pause/> t- uh, processors of different
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2923.611" EndTime="2925.782" Participant="me011">
      I <Emphasis> don't </Emphasis> think so. I think we'd have to do all -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2923.784" EndTime="2924.382" Participant="mn017">
      speed?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2924.721" EndTime="2925.179" Participant="mn017">
      O_K.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2925.650" EndTime="2926.922" Participant="me013">
      Probably just throw away the old ones, and -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2926.611" EndTime="2926.930" Participant="me011">
      Yep.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2926.922" EndTime="2928.192" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2926.930" EndTime="2927.488" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2926.932" EndTime="2929.249" Participant="mn017">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2927.243" EndTime="2927.933" Participant="me018">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2927.340" EndTime="2927.621" Participant="me051">
      <VocalSound Description="mouth"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2927.484" EndTime="2928.010" Participant="me001">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2927.621" EndTime="2928.695" Participant="me051">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2928.192" EndTime="2929.685" Participant="me013">
      Thank you <Pause/> for the box, and -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2928.300" EndTime="2928.695" Participant="me018">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2928.695" EndTime="2929.196" Participant="me018">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2929.409" EndTime="2930.106" Participant="mn017">
      Oh, O_K.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2929.685" EndTime="2932.306" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> I'll just go buy their process. <Comment Description="quietly, while laughing"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2930.106" EndTime="2931.341" Participant="mn017">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2930.402" EndTime="2930.692" Participant="me001">
      Hmm!
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2931.341" EndTime="2933.513" Participant="mn017">
      Maybe we can stick them in another system. I dunno. <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2933.790" EndTime="2934.791" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2934.171" EndTime="2935.087" Participant="mn017">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2934.202" EndTime="2935.094" Participant="me011">
      We'd have to get a -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2935.273" EndTime="2937.744" Participant="me011">
      almost certainly have to get a, uh, Netfinity server.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2937.837" EndTime="2938.375" Participant="mn017">
      I see.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2938.401" EndTime="2938.859" Participant="me011">
      They're
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2938.919" EndTime="2939.238" Participant="me011">
      pretty -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2939.238" EndTime="2940.334" Participant="me011">
      pretty specialized.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2940.048" EndTime="2940.412" Participant="mn017">
      <VocalSound Description="mouth"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2940.562" EndTime="2941.090" Participant="me013">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2940.925" EndTime="2941.224" Participant="mn017">
      <VocalSound Description="mouth"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2941.742" EndTime="2942.160" Participant="mn017">
      O_K.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2942.182" EndTime="2942.586" Participant="me013">
      O_K.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2943.021" EndTime="2944.668" Participant="me013">
      Is - is Liz coming back, do you know, or - ? <Comment Description="leading question"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2943.994" EndTime="2956.231" Participant="mn017">
      <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise as he removes the mike"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2944.795" EndTime="2945.508" Participant="mn017" CloseMic="false">
      I don't know.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2944.926" EndTime="2945.297" Participant="me013">
      I dunno.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2945.458" EndTime="2946.638" Participant="me013">
      Yeah. Oh, you don't. O_K.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2946.052" EndTime="2946.896" Participant="me001">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2946.704" EndTime="2947.827" Participant="mn014">
      <VocalSound Description="cough"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2947.964" EndTime="2949.632" Participant="mn017" CloseMic="false">
      Uh, I - I will.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2947.994" EndTime="2948.316" Participant="me013">
      Alright.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2949.927" EndTime="2951.977" Participant="mn017" CloseMic="false">
      I - I actually have to run this stuff.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2952.238" EndTime="2952.529" Participant="me013">
      Alright.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2952.876" EndTime="2953.417" Participant="mn017" CloseMic="false">
      <NonVocalSound Description="thump"/> O_K.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2952.953" EndTime="2953.545" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2953.545" EndTime="2953.900" Participant="me013">
      See you.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2955.955" EndTime="2956.351" Participant="me013">
      Um.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2958.586" EndTime="2959.773" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> Alright. So -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2960.838" EndTime="2965.388" Participant="me013">
      Uh, they're having tea out there. So I guess the other thing that we were gonna talk about is - is, uh, demo.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2965.388" EndTime="2966.212" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2966.212" EndTime="2970.618" Participant="me013">
      And, um, so, these are the demos for the <Pause/> uh, July,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2971.764" EndTime="2973.426" Participant="me013">
      uh, meeting <Pause/> and,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2973.426" EndTime="2974.055" Participant="me013">
      um -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2974.410" EndTime="2975.024" Participant="me011">
      July what?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2975.582" EndTime="2976.377" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2976.832" EndTime="2977.445" Participant="me013">
      DARPA mee-
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2976.895" EndTime="2978.110" Participant="me011">
      Early July? Late July?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2979.114" EndTime="2981.599" Participant="me013">
      Oh, I think it's July fifteenth. Is that it? <Comment Description="quietly"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2979.910" EndTime="2981.358" Participant="fe008">
      Sixteen to eighteen, I think.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2981.599" EndTime="2982.874" Participant="me013">
      Yeah, sixteenth, eighteenth.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2981.900" EndTime="2982.336" Participant="fe008">
      Roughly.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2982.874" EndTime="2983.713" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2983.713" EndTime="2987.054" Participant="me013">
      Yeah. So, we talked about getting something together for that, but maybe, uh -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2988.216" EndTime="2990.601" Participant="me013">
      maybe we'll just put that off for now, given that -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2991.554" EndTime="2992.780" Participant="me013">
      But I think maybe we should have a -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2992.925" EndTime="2993.813" Participant="me013">
      a sub-meeting,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2993.813" EndTime="2994.491" Participant="me013">
      I think,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2994.491" EndTime="2995.088" Participant="me013">
      uh,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2995.660" EndTime="2996.652" Participant="me013">
      probably, uh,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2996.797" EndTime="2997.330" Participant="me013">
      Adam and -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2997.749" EndTime="2998.960" Participant="me013">
      and, uh, Chuck and me
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="2999.137" EndTime="2999.847" Participant="me013">
      should talk about -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3000.283" EndTime="3002.376" Participant="me013">
      should get together and talk about that sometime soon.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3002.168" EndTime="3003.365" Participant="me011">
      Over a cappuccino tomorrow?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3002.376" EndTime="3003.441" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3003.365" EndTime="3003.804" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3003.441" EndTime="3005.248" Participant="me013">
      Yeah <Comment Description="while laughing"/> something like that. Um,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3003.804" EndTime="3004.361" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3003.893" EndTime="3004.625" Participant="me018">
      <VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3004.028" EndTime="3004.997" Participant="me051">
      <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3006.166" EndTime="3007.312" Participant="me013">
      uh, you know, maybe -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3007.457" EndTime="3009.297" Participant="me013">
      maybe we'll involve Dan Ellis at some -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3009.162" EndTime="3009.523" Participant="me011">
      Mm-hmm.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3009.394" EndTime="3010.362" Participant="me013">
      some level as well.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3010.830" EndTime="3011.146" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="mouth"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3011.572" EndTime="3012.062" Participant="me013">
      Um.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3012.821" EndTime="3013.578" Participant="me013">
      O_K. The -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3013.707" EndTime="3017.548" Participant="me013">
      the tea is - is going, so, uh, I suggest we do, uh -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3018.804" EndTime="3019.998" Participant="me013">
      uh, a unison.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3020.142" EndTime="3021.266" Participant="me011">
      A unison digits? <Comment Description="while laughing"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3021.263" EndTime="3021.642" Participant="fe008">
      <Pronounce Pronunciation="&quot;kay&quot;"> O_K.  </Pronounce>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3021.266" EndTime="3021.784" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3021.384" EndTime="3021.733" Participant="me013">
      Yeah.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3021.784" EndTime="3025.311" Participant="me011">
      Which is gonna be a little hard for a couple people because we have different digits forms.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3022.104" EndTime="3022.717" Participant="me013">
      Gets <Uncertain> our </Uncertain> -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3022.340" EndTime="3022.707" Participant="me001">
      <VocalSound Description="clears throat"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3023.420" EndTime="3024.157" Participant="me051">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3024.918" EndTime="3027.427" Participant="mn014">
      Oops. <Comment Description="interjection"/> <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3025.510" EndTime="3025.968" Participant="me011">
      We have a -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3026.905" EndTime="3028.678" Participant="me011">
      I found a couple of old ones. <Comment Description="last word while laughing"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3028.660" EndTime="3028.923" Participant="me001">
      Hmm.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3028.678" EndTime="3030.230" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3028.963" EndTime="3029.350" Participant="me013">
      Oh.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3029.560" EndTime="3029.996" Participant="me013">
      Well,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3030.609" EndTime="3031.067" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3030.625" EndTime="3032.069" Participant="me013">
      that'll be interesting. So, uh -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3031.864" EndTime="3033.079" Participant="me011">
      Have you done digits before?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3033.034" EndTime="3033.421" Participant="me013">
      No.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3033.898" EndTime="3034.535" Participant="me051">
      I haven't done it.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3034.710" EndTime="3035.729" Participant="me011">
      O_K. So, uh,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3035.492" EndTime="3035.791" Participant="me051">
      <VocalSound Description="clears throat"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3036.187" EndTime="3038.977" Participant="me011">
      the idea is just to read each line <Pause/> with a short pause
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3039.303" EndTime="3039.699" Participant="me051">
      Alright.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3039.335" EndTime="3040.909" Participant="me011">
      between lines, not between -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3041.328" EndTime="3041.526" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3041.526" EndTime="3046.064" Participant="me011">
      And, uh, since we're in a hurry, we were just gonna read everyone all at once. So, if you sorta plug your ears and read -
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3046.064" EndTime="3046.375" Participant="me011">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3046.169" EndTime="3046.468" Participant="me051">
      O_K.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3046.228" EndTime="3047.099" Participant="me013">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3046.349" EndTime="3046.861" Participant="mn014">
      <VocalSound Description="clears throat"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3046.375" EndTime="3048.089" Participant="me011">
      So first read the transcript number,
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3048.089" EndTime="3049.818" Participant="me011">
      and then start reading the <Pause/> digits. <Comment Description="creaky voice"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3050.007" EndTime="3050.451" Participant="me051">
      Sure.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3050.587" EndTime="3051.113" Participant="me011">
      O_K?
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3052.130" EndTime="3053.696" Participant="me011">
      One, two, three.
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3053.937" EndTime="3054.290" Participant="fe008">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3054.277" EndTime="3055.351" Participant="me011" DigitTask="true">
      L_ one fifty. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3054.290" EndTime="3056.127" Participant="fe008" DigitTask="true">
      Transcript L_ one four nine. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3054.547" EndTime="3056.827" Participant="me001" DigitTask="true">
      Transcript <Pause/> L_ dash one four seven. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3054.580" EndTime="3057.790" Participant="me018" DigitTask="true">
      Transcript one four three one dash one four five zero. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3054.677" EndTime="3056.904" Participant="mn014" DigitTask="true">
      Transcript L_ one forty eight. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3054.828" EndTime="3058.592" Participant="me013" DigitTask="true">
      Transcript <Pause/> two two five one dash two two seven zero. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3055.080" EndTime="3059.902" Participant="me051" DigitTask="true">
      Two one nine one, dash two two one zero. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3056.127" EndTime="3056.847" Participant="fe008">
      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3056.150" EndTime="3060.221" Participant="me011" DigitTask="true">
      Two, four six nine, four eight, eight two eight, two. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3056.847" EndTime="3063.891" Participant="fe008" DigitTask="true">
      One eight four one, seven seven zero zero, seven zero s- <Pause/> two seven. <Pause/> Seven zero two seven. <Comment Description="corrected below"/> <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3057.012" EndTime="3060.870" Participant="mn014" DigitTask="true">
      One three one, three seven four, nine three nine three. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3057.481" EndTime="3062.065" Participant="me001" DigitTask="true">
      Two one, five four, eight five, six two, five six. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3058.572" EndTime="3059.602" Participant="me018" DigitTask="true">
      Eight three one. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3059.878" EndTime="3061.132" Participant="me013" DigitTask="true">
      nine seven one <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3060.152" EndTime="3061.234" Participant="me018" DigitTask="true">
      Nine six four. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3060.653" EndTime="3063.555" Participant="me011" DigitTask="true">
      Three O_ four, two eight t- O_, O_ seven one. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3061.361" EndTime="3066.226" Participant="mn014" DigitTask="true">
      Zero, six six four, two four, three nine seven, eight. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3061.382" EndTime="3062.028" Participant="me013" DigitTask="true">
      O_ <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3061.580" EndTime="3062.081" Participant="me018" DigitTask="true">
      O_. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3062.028" EndTime="3062.786" Participant="me013" DigitTask="true">
      zero <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3062.662" EndTime="3064.053" Participant="me018" DigitTask="true">
      Zero nine nine zero. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3062.697" EndTime="3066.467" Participant="me001" DigitTask="true">
      One eight, three nine, seven, six three four. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3062.762" EndTime="3063.958" Participant="me051" DigitTask="true">
      Six. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3063.190" EndTime="3065.604" Participant="me013" DigitTask="true">
      one zero two nine seven nine nine <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3064.126" EndTime="3065.268" Participant="me051" DigitTask="true">
      Eight one nine. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3064.191" EndTime="3067.377" Participant="me011" DigitTask="true">
      One three seven one, O_, five one two. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3064.338" EndTime="3065.750" Participant="fe008" DigitTask="true">
      Six five one - Lemme do that again. <Comment Description="starts over"/> <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3064.585" EndTime="3065.347" Participant="me018" DigitTask="true">
      <Emphasis> One </Emphasis> zero. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3065.718" EndTime="3066.159" Participant="me018" DigitTask="true">
      Two. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3065.860" EndTime="3067.085" Participant="me051" DigitTask="true">
      Nine three zero. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3065.901" EndTime="3068.396" Participant="me013" DigitTask="true">
      three one two eight seven four four. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3066.003" EndTime="3070.387" Participant="fe008" DigitTask="true">
      One eight four one, seven seven zero zero, seven zero two seven. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3066.539" EndTime="3067.703" Participant="me018" DigitTask="true">
      Four one two. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3066.881" EndTime="3071.574" Participant="mn014" DigitTask="true">
      one nine five three, five two zero <Pause/> nine, four seven <Pause/> nine one <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3066.912" EndTime="3070.758" Participant="me001" DigitTask="true">
      Six eight eight eight, nine, seven eight zero. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3067.849" EndTime="3071.255" Participant="me011" DigitTask="true">
      Eight five six, three one nine, eight eight <Emphasis> seven. </Emphasis> <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3068.262" EndTime="3069.745" Participant="me018" DigitTask="true">
      Five three one nine four. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3068.300" EndTime="3070.583" Participant="me051" DigitTask="true">
      O_ six two one four. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3068.880" EndTime="3070.333" Participant="me013" DigitTask="true">
      four six six <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3070.306" EndTime="3071.375" Participant="me018" DigitTask="true">
      Six six four. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3070.575" EndTime="3071.848" Participant="me013" DigitTask="true">
      five three <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3070.915" EndTime="3073.983" Participant="fe008" DigitTask="true">
      Six five one, seven three, six two six zero. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3071.179" EndTime="3075.065" Participant="me001" DigitTask="true">
      Zero five five, one four nine, nine five five three. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3071.404" EndTime="3074.671" Participant="me051" DigitTask="true">
      Zero nine five <Pause/> one two zero eight. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3071.628" EndTime="3072.901" Participant="me018" DigitTask="true">
      Seven five. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3071.716" EndTime="3074.930" Participant="me011" DigitTask="true">
      Two O_ five, seven two four, nine one <Emphasis> six. </Emphasis> <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3072.221" EndTime="3073.367" Participant="me013" DigitTask="true">
      six eight seven <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3072.407" EndTime="3077.098" Participant="mn014" DigitTask="true">
      Nine, eight eight zero, three one, nine one one, eight. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3072.990" EndTime="3073.529" Participant="me018" DigitTask="true">
      Eight. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3073.791" EndTime="3074.935" Participant="me018" DigitTask="true">
      Nine O_ O_. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3073.849" EndTime="3075.356" Participant="me013" DigitTask="true">
      seven O_ five two <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3074.568" EndTime="3077.288" Participant="fe008" DigitTask="true">
      Three three eight nine, seven, four three one. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3075.296" EndTime="3079.991" Participant="me011" DigitTask="true">
      Zero, eight eight two, one six, eight six seven, one. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3075.474" EndTime="3077.615" Participant="me018" DigitTask="true">
      O_ O_ nine nine eight eight eight. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3075.479" EndTime="3079.352" Participant="me001" DigitTask="true">
      Five two nine eight, eight eight four five, five six two four. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3075.512" EndTime="3075.971" Participant="me013" DigitTask="true">
      eight <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3075.568" EndTime="3076.147" Participant="me051" DigitTask="true">
      One. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3076.464" EndTime="3077.368" Participant="me013" DigitTask="true">
      nine zero <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3076.783" EndTime="3077.388" Participant="me051" DigitTask="true">
      Two. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3077.574" EndTime="3080.712" Participant="mn014" DigitTask="true">
      Eight five <Pause/> eight two, seven, five three two. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3077.610" EndTime="3078.596" Participant="me013" DigitTask="true">
      zero three <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3077.899" EndTime="3079.000" Participant="me051" DigitTask="true">
      Three O_ O_. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3077.968" EndTime="3081.702" Participant="fe008" DigitTask="true">
      One five three one, one seven one five, three zero five two. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3078.168" EndTime="3079.140" Participant="me018" DigitTask="true">
      One four. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3079.062" EndTime="3079.900" Participant="me013" DigitTask="true">
      one two <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3079.590" EndTime="3081.874" Participant="me018" DigitTask="true">
      Two six six one three eight nine. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3079.664" EndTime="3083.598" Participant="me001" DigitTask="true">
      Five zero nine one, nine five three four, two six five six. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3079.830" EndTime="3082.936" Participant="me051" DigitTask="true">
      Five one zero six one zero one. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3080.369" EndTime="3081.460" Participant="me013" DigitTask="true">
      two seven one <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3080.979" EndTime="3084.478" Participant="me011" DigitTask="true">
      Nine one, eight four, three six, nine eight, seven <Emphasis> two. </Emphasis> <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3081.352" EndTime="3085.937" Participant="mn014" DigitTask="true">
      Three two <Pause/> three eight, seven five four five, seven seven zero zero. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3081.822" EndTime="3083.844" Participant="me013" DigitTask="true">
      three eight O_ five five O_ three <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3082.160" EndTime="3085.550" Participant="fe008" DigitTask="true">
      Nine nine three, five eight three, six seven three. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3082.635" EndTime="3085.770" Participant="me018" DigitTask="true">
      Three five four <Pause/> four <Pause/> zero six zero. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3083.753" EndTime="3085.310" Participant="me051" DigitTask="true">
      Six five three three. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3084.078" EndTime="3087.097" Participant="me001" DigitTask="true">
      Two one two, four five nine, three two five. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3084.392" EndTime="3085.189" Participant="me013" DigitTask="true">
      four <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3085.478" EndTime="3090.181" Participant="me011" DigitTask="true">
      Seven, two six two, one two, six five nine, eight. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3085.560" EndTime="3086.373" Participant="me013" DigitTask="true">
      five <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3086.077" EndTime="3088.917" Participant="fe008" DigitTask="true">
      Eight zero, five six, zero, eight one eight. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3086.104" EndTime="3087.488" Participant="me051" DigitTask="true">
      Seven seven. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3086.475" EndTime="3087.267" Participant="me018" DigitTask="true">
      Four eight. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3086.624" EndTime="3087.850" Participant="me013" DigitTask="true">
      six O_ nine O_ <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3086.665" EndTime="3091.396" Participant="mn014" DigitTask="true">
      Five, nine four one, six one, nine five six, seven. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3087.528" EndTime="3088.183" Participant="me018" DigitTask="true">
      Five. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3087.594" EndTime="3091.568" Participant="me001" DigitTask="true">
      Seven three three, seven five, nine zero four one. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3088.166" EndTime="3088.901" Participant="me051" DigitTask="true">
      Eight. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3088.222" EndTime="3090.526" Participant="me013" DigitTask="true">
      eight two four O_ one seven eight <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3088.369" EndTime="3088.967" Participant="me018" DigitTask="true">
      Six. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3089.471" EndTime="3090.997" Participant="me018" DigitTask="true">
      Seven O_ nine six nine. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3089.570" EndTime="3092.074" Participant="fe008" DigitTask="true">
      Six nine eight, four two, two nine zero zero. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3089.708" EndTime="3090.476" Participant="me051" DigitTask="true">
      Nine. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3090.974" EndTime="3091.652" Participant="me013" DigitTask="true">
      nine <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3091.125" EndTime="3091.965" Participant="me051" DigitTask="true">
      O_. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3091.733" EndTime="3093.458" Participant="me013" DigitTask="true">
      two O_ four six. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3092.133" EndTime="3095.254" Participant="mn014" DigitTask="true">
      Four four eight, six seven one, four five six. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3092.432" EndTime="3095.616" Participant="fe008" DigitTask="true">
      Eight zero, three two, three seven, seven six, zero one. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3092.939" EndTime="3093.680" Participant="me051" DigitTask="true">
      Zero. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3094.553" EndTime="3096.266" Participant="me051" DigitTask="true">
      Two two five eight. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3096.951" EndTime="3097.798" Participant="me051" DigitTask="true">
      Three one. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3098.492" EndTime="3100.007" Participant="me051" DigitTask="true">
      Four four six nine. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3100.598" EndTime="3101.333" Participant="me051" DigitTask="true">
      Five. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3101.326" EndTime="3101.713" CloseMic="false">
      <NonVocalSound Description="clunk or thump"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3102.018" EndTime="3102.814" Participant="me051" DigitTask="true">
      Six. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3103.636" EndTime="3103.825" Participant="me011">
      <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3104.028" EndTime="3104.246" Participant="me011">
      <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3104.089" EndTime="3105.591" Participant="me013">
      <Pronounce Pronunciation="&quot;nn-kay&quot;"> O_K  </Pronounce> we're done. <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3105.364" EndTime="3105.713" Participant="me011">
      <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3106.307" EndTime="3108.660" Participant="me001">
      <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="3107.381" EndTime="3108.587" Participant="me011">
      And -
    </Segment>

  </Transcript>

</Meeting>