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<Meeting Session="Bmr024" DateTimeStamp="2001-05-24-1450" Version="2" VersionDate="Jan 7 2004">
<Preamble>
<Notes>
fe016 and mn017 arrived late, left early, and
did not read digits.
fe016 enters at about 13 min, mn017 at 12:26;
fe016 exits at about 43 min, mn017 at 49:16.
Digits were read simultaneously.
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st- <Comment Description="very quietly"/>
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Yeah. <Comment Description="very quietly"/>
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So we're on. <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
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That's better. <Comment Description="very quietly"/>
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And, <Comment Description="overlapping mike noise"/> somewhere is my agenda.
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I think the most important thing is Morgan wanted to talk about, uh,
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the ARPA <Pause/> demo.
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Well, so,
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here's the thing.
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Um,
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why don't we s- again start off with - with, uh,
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Yeah, I'll get it. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
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I'll get the door. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
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I think we want to start off with the <Emphasis> agenda. </Emphasis>
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And then, given that,
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uh, Liz and Andreas are gonna be <Pause/> ten, fifteen minutes late,
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we can try to figure out what we can
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do most effectively without them here. So -
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O_K. So, uh -
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So - so, one thing is, yeah, talk about demo,
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uh, I_B_M transcription status,
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I_B_M transcription. <Comment Description="list intonation, while writing it down"/>
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Uh, what else?
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SmartKom.
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SmartKom.
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SmartKom.
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What's SmartKom?
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Uh, we wanna talk about
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if w- <Emphasis> if </Emphasis> we wanna add the data to the mar- Meeting Recorder corpus.
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The data.
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The data which we are collecting here.
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What - what - what are we collecting here?
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Data?
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So why don't we have that on the agenda and we'll - we'll get to it and talk about it? <Comment Description="mike distortion overlaps speech"/>
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/> The SmartKom data? <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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Yeah, right.
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Yeah.
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Uh,
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right.
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Uh. <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
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Uh, reorganization status.
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Reorganization
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status.
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Oh.
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Files and directories?
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Files and directories.
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Yep.
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Uh-huh.
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Absinthe,
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which is the multiprocessor UNIX -
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Linux.
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I think it was <Pause/> Andreas wanted to talk about segmentation and recognition,
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Um -
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And then if ti- if there's <Emphasis> time </Emphasis> I wanted to talk about digits, but it looked like we were pretty full, so I can wait till next week.
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O_K.
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Well, let's see.
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I think the a- certainly the segmentation and recognition we wanna maybe focus on when An- Andreas is here since that was particularly his
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And also the SmartKom
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thing.
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thing
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b-
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Absinthe, I think also he
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At least, <Uncertain> yeah </Uncertain>, he'll t- he'll probably be interested.
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But.
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Yeah.
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Um <Pause/>
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So, I mean, I think they'll be inter- I'll be interested in all this, but -
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but, uh, probably,
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if we had to pick <Emphasis> something </Emphasis> <Pause/> that we would talk on for
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ten minutes or so while they're coming here. Or I guess it would be,
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you think, reorganization status, or - ? <Comment Description="leading question"/>
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Yeah. I mean, I think,
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Chuck was the one who
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added out the agenda item. I don't really have anything to <Emphasis> say </Emphasis> other than that we still haven't <Emphasis> done </Emphasis> it.
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So.
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Well, I mean, I uh -
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just basically that -
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maybe I said - maybe we said this before - just that we met and we talked about it and
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we
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sort of have a plan for
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getting things organized and -
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And I - and I think a crucial part of that is the idea of - of not wanting to do it until right before the next level zero back-up
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so that there won't be huge number of -
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Right.
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of added, uh -
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Right.
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That - that was basically it. Not - not much <Uncertain NumSyllables="1"> @@ </Uncertain> - <Comment Description="decreasing volume"/>
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Although Dave basically said
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Yeah.
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that
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if we wanna <Emphasis> do </Emphasis> it,
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Uh-huh.
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just <Emphasis> tell </Emphasis> him and he'll
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do a d- level zero then.
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> Oh, excellent.
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So.
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Oh, so maybe we <Pronounce Pronunciation=""ju""> should </Pronounce> just go ahead and get everything ready, and -
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Oh, good.
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Yep.
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So, I think we <Emphasis> do </Emphasis> need to talk a little bit about -
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Well, we don't need to do it during this meeting. We have a <Emphasis> little </Emphasis> more to discuss.
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Yeah.
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But, uh,
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we're - we're basically ready to do it.
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And, uh, I have some web pages on
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more of the background.
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So, naming conventions and things like that, that I've been trying to keep actually up to date.
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So. <Comment Description="while laughing"/>
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And I've been <Pronounce Pronunciation=""showing""> sharing </Pronounce> them with U_d- U_W folks also.
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<Emphasis> Sharing </Emphasis> them with the U_W folks.
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O_K.
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Well, maybe uh,
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since that - that was a pretty short one, maybe we should talk about the I_B_M transcription status. Someone can
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fill in Liz and Andreas later. Uh <Pause/>
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O_K. So, we, uh -
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we did another version of the beeps, where we separated each beeps with a spoken digit.
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Chuck came up here and recorded some di- himself speaking some digits,
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and so it just
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goes "beep one beep" and then the phrase, and then "beep two beep" and then the phrase.
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And that seems pretty good.
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Um,
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I think
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they'll have a b- easier time keeping track of where they are in the file.
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segmentations.
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And we did it with the automatic segmentation, and I don't think - We ne- we didn't look at it in detail.
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We just sent it to I_B_M. We - we sorta <Emphasis> spot-checked </Emphasis> it.
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I listened to <Pause/> probably,
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uh, five or ten minutes of it from the beginning.
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Oh, really? O_K.
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Yeah.
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And -
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I sorta spot-checked here and there and it sounded pretty good.
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So.
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I think it'll work. <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
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And, uh, we'll just hafta
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see what we get back from them.
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Uh -
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And the main thing will be
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if we can
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<Emphasis> align </Emphasis> what they give us
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with what we sent them.
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I mean, that's the crucial
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part.
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Right.
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And I think
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we'll be able to do that at - with this new
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beep
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format.
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Yep.
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Well, I think
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it's also
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they are
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much less likely to d- have errors.
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Mm-hmm.
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I mean, so the problem wi- last time is that there were errors in the transcripts where they <Emphasis> put </Emphasis> beeps where there weren't any,
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Right.
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or - and they put in extraneous beeps.
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Yeah.
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And with the numbers there, it's much less likely.
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Yeah, one
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interesting note is -
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uh, or problem - I dunno if this was just
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because of how <Emphasis> I </Emphasis> play it back, I say, uh, S_N_D-play and then the file, <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
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every once in a while,
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<Uncertain NumSyllables="1"> @@ </Uncertain> <Comment Description="uncodeable vocal squeak"/> uh, like a beep sounds like it's <Emphasis> cut </Emphasis> into two beeps.
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Yeah. Into two pieces. Yeah.
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Yeah, and
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Yep.
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I - I dunno if that's an, uh, artifact of playback -
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bu- uh, I don't think it's probably in the original file.
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Um,
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I recognize that, too.
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Yeah.
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but, uh -
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Ha. That's interesting. I didn't hear that.
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Yeah.
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But with this new format,
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um,
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that
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hopefully <Emphasis> they're </Emphasis> not hearing that, and if they are, it shouldn't throw them.
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Yep.
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So. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
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Well, maybe we better listen to it again, make sure, but,
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I mean, certainly the software shouldn't
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
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do that, so. <Comment Description="while laughing"/>
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Yeah. That's what I thought. I- it's probably just,
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
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Mm-hmm. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
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you know,
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mmm, somehow the
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audio <Pause/> device
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gets
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Yeah. Some latency or something. Yeah?
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Hiccups.
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hung for a second, or -
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Yeah.
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As long as they have one number,
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and they know that there's only one beep maximum <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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Yeah. <Comment Description="very quietly"/>
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Yeah.
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that goes with that number. <Comment Description="while laughing"/>
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Yeah. The only - the only part that might be confusing is when Chuck is reading digits.
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Right.
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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Yep.
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Right. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/> So <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> th- <Comment Description="while laughing"/>
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Well, you know, <Emphasis> actually, </Emphasis>
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"Seven four eight <Emphasis> beep </Emphasis> seven <Emphasis> beep </Emphasis> <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> eight three two".
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are we having them -
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Yeah, but are we having them do digits?
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Yes.
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Because, uh, we don't -
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We - we didn't cut those out.
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Yeah.
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we didn't -
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They are not transcribed yet. So. Yeah.
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In order to cut them out we'd have to listen to it.
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Yeah.
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And we wanted to avoid doing that, so we - they are transcribing the digits.
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O_K.
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<Pronounce Pronunciation=""mm-kay""> O_K. </Pronounce>
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Although we <Emphasis> could </Emphasis> tell them - <Comment Description="heavy mike distortion"/>
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We can - we can ignore it
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when we get it back, huh.
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we could tell them,
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if you hear someone reading a digits string just say
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"bracket digit bracket" and don't bother actually
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computing the di-
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writing down the digits.
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Yeah.
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That'd be great. That'd be what I'm having
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the transcribers here do, cuz it can be
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extracted later. <Comment Description="decreasing volume"/>
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Yep.
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And then I wanted to <Emphasis> talk </Emphasis> about -
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but as I said I - we may not have <Emphasis> time </Emphasis> -
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what we should <Emphasis> do </Emphasis> about digits. We have a whole pile of digits that haven't been transcribed.
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Le- let's talk about it, because
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that's - that's something that I - I know Andreas is less interested in than Liz is, so,
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O_K.
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you know.
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Do we have anything else to say about transcription?
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It's good -
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About I_B_M stuff?
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Uh, Brian - I -
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I <VocalSound Description="outbreath"/> sent <Pronounce> bresset </Pronounce> - <VocalSound Description="outbreath"/> <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> sent <Emphasis> Brian </Emphasis> a <Emphasis> message </Emphasis> about <Pause/> <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> the meeting
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<NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
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and I haven't heard back yet.
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So.
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<NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
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O_K.
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I g- hope he got it and hopefully he's -
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Hmm. <Comment Description="very quietly"/>
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maybe he's gone, I dunno. He didn't
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even reply to my message. So.
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I should probably ping him just to make sure that
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he got it. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
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<Pronounce Pronunciation=""arright""> Alright. </Pronounce>
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So, we have a whole bunch of digits,
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if we wanna move on to digits.
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Actually, maybe I - One - one relate- more related thing in transcription. So that's the I_B_M stuff. We've got that sorted out.
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Um, how're we doing on the - on the rest of it?
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We're doing well.
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I - I hire - I've hired <Emphasis> two </Emphasis> extra people already, expect to hire two more.
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Hmm. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
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And, um,
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<VocalSound Description="breath"/>
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I've prepared,
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um,
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uh, a set of <Emphasis> five </Emphasis> which I'm - which I'm calling set two,
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which are now being edited by my head transcriber,
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in terms of spelling errors and all that. She's also checking through and mar- and -
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and monitoring, um,
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the transcription of
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another transcriber.
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You know, I mean, she's going through and doing these kinds of checks.
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Uh-huh.
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And,
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I've moved on now to what I'm calling set three. I sort of thought if I do it in sets - groups of five,
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then I can have, like, sort of a -
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a parallel processing through - through the -
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Uh-huh.
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the current.
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And -
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and you indicated to me that we have a g- a <Emphasis> goal </Emphasis> now,
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for the -
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for the,
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um,
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<NonVocalSound Description="click"/>
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the, uh, DARPA <Emphasis> demo, </Emphasis>
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of twenty hours.
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<VocalSound Description="breath"/>
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So, I'm gonna go up to twenty hours,
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be sure that everything gets processed,
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and released,
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and -
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and that's -
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that's what my goal is. Package of twenty hours right now,
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and then once that's done, move on to the next.
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Yeah, uh,
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so twenty hours. But I guess the other thing is that,
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um,
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that - that's kinda twenty hours A_SAP because
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the longer
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<Emphasis> before </Emphasis> the demo we actually have the twenty hours, the more time it'll be for people to actually do
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cool things with it.
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Mm-hmm. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
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So.
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Good.
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I'm - I'm hiring people who,
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uh, <Emphasis> really </Emphasis> are -
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They would like to do it full-time, several of these people.
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Mm-hmm.
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And - and I don't think it's
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possible, really, to do this full-time, but,
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that - what it shows is motivation to do as many hours as possible.
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It'll keep your accuracy up.
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Yep.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And they're really excellent.
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Well, that's good.
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Yeah. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
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Yeah, I mean, I guess the -
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Got a good core group now.
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So the difference if - if, um,
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if the I_B_M stuff works out,
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Again. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
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the difference in the job would be that they p- primarily would be
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checking through things that were
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Mm-hmm. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
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already done by someone else? Is that most of what it - ?
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And correcting.
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<Pause/> I mean -
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Correcting.
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Correcting. We'll - we'll expect that they'll have to move some time bins and do some corrections.
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And I - you know, I've also d- uh, discovered -
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So with the new transcriber I'm -
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um -
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So -
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Uh, lemme say that
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my,
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uh -
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So,
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um -
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At present, um, the people have been doing these transcriptions a channel at a time.
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And, that sort of, um, <VocalSound Description="breath"/> is useful, and t- you know, and then once in a while they'll have to refer to the other channels to clear something up.
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O_K. Well,
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I realize that, um,
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w- i- we- we're using the pre-segmented version,
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and, um,
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the pre-segmented version is extremely useful,
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and wouldn't it be,
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useful also to have the <Emphasis> visual </Emphasis> representation of those segments?
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And so I've -
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<Pause/> uh, <Pause/> I,
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uh, uh, I've <Comment Description="creaky voice"/> <Emphasis> trained </Emphasis> the new one -
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uh, the new- the newest one,
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to, um,
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use the
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visual from
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the channel that is gonna be transcribed at any given time.
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And that's just <Emphasis> amazingly </Emphasis> helpful.
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Because what happens <Emphasis> then, </Emphasis> is you scan across the signal and once in a while you'll find a blip that didn't show up in the pre-segmentation.
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Oh, right. I see what you mean.
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And that'll be something like -
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I- it's <Uncertain> ver- </Uncertain> - it's interesting.
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A backchannel, or -
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Once in a while it's a backchannel. Sometimes it seems to be,
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Yep. <Comment Description="creaky voice"/>
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um,
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<Emphasis> similar </Emphasis> to the ones that are being picked up.
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Mm-hmm.
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And they're rare events, but you can <Emphasis> really </Emphasis> go through a meeting <Emphasis> very </Emphasis> quickly. You just - you just,
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you know,
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yo- you s-
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you <Pronounce Pronunciation=""scroll-ul""> scroll </Pronounce> from screen to screen, looking for blips.
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And,
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I think that we're gonna end up with, uh <Pause/> better coverage of the backchannels,
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but at the same time we're benefitting
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tremendously from the pre-segmentation because
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there are <Emphasis> huge </Emphasis> places where there is just absolutely
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no
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activity at all.
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Mm-hmm.
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And, uh, the audio quality is <Emphasis> so </Emphasis> good -
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So they can - they can, um,
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scroll through that pretty quick?
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Yeah.
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Mm-hmm.
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That's great.
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Yeah.
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So I think that that's gonna,
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also <Pause/> eh, <Comment Description="creaky voice"/> you know, speed the efficiency of this
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part of the process.
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Hmm. O_K.
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Uh, yeah.
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So, uh -
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Yeah. So let's talk about the digits, since they're not here yet.
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Uh, so,
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we have a whole bunch of digits that we've read and we have the forms and so on,
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um, but only a small number of that ha-
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well, not a <Emphasis> small </Emphasis> number -
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only
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a <Emphasis> subset </Emphasis> of that has been transcribed. And so we need to decide
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what we wanna <Emphasis> do. </Emphasis>
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And, uh,
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Liz and Andreas - actually they're not here, but,
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they did say at one point that they thought they could do a pretty good job of just doing a forced alignment.
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And,
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again, I don't think we'll be able to do with that <Emphasis> alone, </Emphasis>
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because, um, sometimes people correct themselves and things like that.
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But - so, I was just wondering what people thought about
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how automated can we make the <Emphasis> process </Emphasis> of finding where the people read the digits,
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doing a forced alignment, and doing the timing.
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Well, forced alignment would be one thing. What about just actually doing recognition?
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Well, we - we <Emphasis> know </Emphasis> what they read, because we have the forms.
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No, they make mistakes.
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Right.
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But,
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the <Emphasis> point </Emphasis> is that we wanna <Emphasis> get </Emphasis> a set of clean
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digits.
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Right.
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You're talking about as a <Emphasis> pre-processing </Emphasis> step. Right, Morgan?
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Um -
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Is that what you're - ?
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Yeah, I'm - I'm not quite sure what I'm talking about. I mean -
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I - <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
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I mean,
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uh, we're talking about digits now. And - and so,
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um,
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there's a bunch of stuff that hasn't been
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marked yet.
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<Pronounce Pronunciation=""uh"+"yeah""> Uh. </Pronounce>
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And,
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um, <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
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I mean, so one option i-
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there's the issue that -
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that they - we know what -
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what was said,
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but do we? Because people
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make mistakes and stuff.
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I was just <Emphasis> asking, </Emphasis> just out of curiosity, if - if with, uh -
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uh, the S_R_I recognizer getting one percent word error,
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uh,
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would we -
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would we do <Pause/> <Emphasis> better </Emphasis> - ?
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So, if you do a forced alignment but the force- but the - but the transcription you have is wrong because they actually made mistakes, uh, or
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But that's pretty uncommon.
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false starts,
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it's - it's much less c-
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it's <Pause/> much less common than one percent?
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Um,
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if we could really get one percent on -
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Well,
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We should be able to. Right?
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I guess - yeah, I guess if we <Emphasis> segmented </Emphasis> it,
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Yeah.
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we could get one percent on digits.
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Yeah.
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So that's just my question. I'm not saying it should be one way or the other, but it's - If -
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But, <Comment Description="creaky voice"/>
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Well, there - there're a couple different of doing it. We could
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use the tools I've already developed and transcribe it. Hire some people,
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or use the transcribers to do it. We could let I_B_M transcribe it.
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You know, they're doing it anyway, and unless we tell them <Emphasis> different, </Emphasis> they're gonna transcribe it.
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Um, or we could try some automated methods.
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And <Emphasis> my </Emphasis> - my tendency right <Emphasis> now </Emphasis> is, well, if I_B_M
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Well -
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comes back with this meeting and the transcript is <Emphasis> good, </Emphasis>
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just let <Emphasis> them </Emphasis> do it. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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Yeah, it's - Y- you raised a point, kind of,
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uh, euphemistically - but, I mean, m- maybe it is a serious problem. Ho- what will they do when they go - hear
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"beep <Pause/> seven <Pause/> beep <Pause/> seven three five two" - I mean,
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you think they'll - we'll get - ?
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It's pretty distinct.
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The beeps are <Pause/> pre-recorded.
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Yeah?
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It'll <Comment Description="while laughing"/> only be a problem for m- for mine.
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Yeah. <Comment Description="creaky voice"/>
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Well it -
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it - well, it'd be preceded by "I'm reading transcript
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so-and-so"?
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Yeah.
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Yes. <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
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I
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think if they're processing it at -
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I mean, it'll be - it will be in the midst of a digit string.
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So -
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Yeah.
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I mean it - sure, there - there might be a place where it's
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"beep seven <Pause/> beep eight <Pause/>
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beep <Pause/>
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eight <Pause/> beep". <Comment Description="last word while laughing"/> <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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But, you know, they - they're - they're gonna macros for inserting the beep marks.
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And so, I - I don't think it'll be a problem. We'll have to see, but I don't think it's gonna be a problem.
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O_K.
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Well, I - I - I dunno, I - I think that that's - if they are in fact going to transcribe these things,
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uh,
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certainly any process that we'd have to
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correct them, or whatever is - needs to be much less elaborate for digits than
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Right.
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for other stuff. So, why not?
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Sure.
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That was it?
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That was it.
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Just,
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what do we do with digits? We have so many of them,
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O_K.
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Well, we - we -
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and it'd be nice to <Pause/> actually do something with them.
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we wanna have <Pronounce Pronunciation=""em""> them. </Pronounce>
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You mean there're more than ten?
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Yeah, I -
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<Uncertain> Anything else? </Uncertain> <Comment Description="quietly"/>
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Your mike is a little low there.
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I- in Berkeley, yeah.
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uh <Pause/>
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You - you have to go a <Pronounce Pronunciation=""lill""> little </Pronounce> early, right?
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Well, I can stay till about, uh,
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At twenty - <VocalSound Description="outbreath"/>
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three forty.
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Alright. So le- let's make sure we do the ones that -
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Mm-hmm.
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that, uh,
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saved you. So there was some -
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Uh <Pause/>
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Adam's agenda list, he had something from you about segmentation this last recognition?
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Well, yeah. So this is just
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partly to inform everybody,
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um,
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and - and of course to get,
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input.
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uh, we had a discussion -
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Don and
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Liz and I had discussion last week about
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how to proceed with, uh,
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Ch-
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you know, with <Emphasis> Don's </Emphasis> work, and -
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and - and, uh, one of
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the obvious
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things that
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occur to us was that
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we're - since we now have Thilo's
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segmenter and it works,
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you know, amazingly well,
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um,
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we should actually
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basically re-evaluate the recognition,
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um,
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results
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using - you know, without cheating on the segmentations.
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And, that should be fairly -
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So -
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And how do we find the transcripts for <Pronounce Pronunciation="long /s/"> those </Pronounce> so that - ?
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Yeah.
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Oh, O_K.
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The references for - for <Pause/> those segments?
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So, there's actually -
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It's not that - <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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Why do you ask?
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No, actually, um,
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I could -
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Hand ones.
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NIST
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a fairly sophisticated scoring program
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O_K.
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that you can give a, um -
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a time,
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uh -
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You know, you basically just give two <Pause/> time-marked sequences of words,
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and it
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computes
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the
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um -
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the, <Comment Description="creaky voice"/>
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uh - <Comment Description="creaky voice"/>
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you know,
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It does all the work for you.
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the - the - th- it does all the work for you.
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Yeah.
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O_K.
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So, it - we just - and we use that actually in Hub-five
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to do the scoring.
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Um. So what we've been using so far was sort of a <Pause/> simplified version of the scoring.
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And we can -
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we can handle the -
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the - the
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type of problem we have here.
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So, we ha-
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So, basically you give some time constraints for - for the references and for - for the hypothesis, and - Yeah, O_K.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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Right.
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Yeah. Maybe the <Pause/> start of your speech and the end of it, or stuff like that.
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So do-
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O_K. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
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Right.
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It does time-constrained word-alignment.
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O_K.
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So.
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So that
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should be possible.
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I mean that shouldn't be a
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problem.
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Uh, so that was the one thing, and the other was that, um -
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What was the other problem? Oh!
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That
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Thilo wanted to use <Pause/> the recognizer alignments to train up his, um, speech detector.
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Yeah.
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Um,
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so that
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we could use,
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uh - you know there wouldn't be so much hand
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
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labeling needed
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to, uh -
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to generate training data for - for the speech detector.
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Yeah. I'm just in progress of - of doing that. So.
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And I think you're in the <Pronounce Pronunciation=""pros""> process </Pronounce> of doing that. So,
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Yeah.
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you can - <Comment Description="quietly"/>
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It'll give you a lot more data, too. Won't it?
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you can -
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Yeah.
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So, it's basically -
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s- <Comment Description="very quietly"/>
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I think, eight meetings or something which - which I'm using, and,
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Mm-hmm.
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
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it's -
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before it was twenty minutes of one meeting. So -
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Right.
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should <Comment Description="very quietly"/> be a little bit better.
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That won't be perfect - the alignments aren't perfect,
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Great.
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Yeah. But -
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but,
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um,
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Yeah.
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it's probably still <Emphasis> better </Emphasis> to have all this extra data,
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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than - Yeah. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
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We'll see that. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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Yeah.
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<Pronounce Pronunciation=""mm-kay""> O_K. </Pronounce>
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Actually, I had a question about that. If you find that you can
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lower the false alarms
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that you get
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where there's no speech, that would be
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useful <Pause/> for us to know. So,
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um -
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There were the false alarms. <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
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Yeah. So,
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r- right now you get f-
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O_K.
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fal- you know, false - false, uh, speech regions when it's just like, um,
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Yeah.
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breath or something like that, and I'd be interested to know the -
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Yep.
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wha- if you retrain
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um,
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Yeah.
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do those actually go down or not? Because <Pause/> <Uncertain> of </Uncertain> -
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Yeah. I'll - can make - an-
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can, like, make a c- comparison of - of the old system to the - to the new one, and <Pause/> then - Yeah.
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Yeah, just to see if by doing nothing in the modeling of - just having that training data wh- what happens.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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<VocalSound Description="mouth"/>
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Um <Pronounce Pronunciation=""nother""> another </Pronounce> one that we had on
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Adam's agenda <Pause/> that
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definitely involved you was s- something about SmartKom?
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Right. So,
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Rob <Pronounce Pronunciation=""pore-*zell", final stress"> Porzel </Pronounce> - eh, <Pronounce Pronunciation=""*pore-zul", initial stress"> Porzel? </Pronounce>
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and the, uh -
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Porzel.
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<Pronounce Pronunciation=""pur-tsul""> Porzel </Pronounce> -
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Porzel. <Comment Description="quietly"/> <Comment Description="while laughing"/>
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and the, uh,
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SmartKom group are collecting some dialogues. Basically they have one person sitting in here,
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looking at a picture, and a wizard sitting in another room somewhere.
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<VocalSound Description="mouth"/> <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
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And, uh, they're doing a travel task.
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And, uh,
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it involves starting - I believe starting with a -
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It's - it's always the wizard, but it starts where the wizard is pretending to be a computer and it goes through a, uh,
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speech generation system.
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Yeah. Actually, it's changed to a synthesis for - for the first part now. Yeah.
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Synthesis system.
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Um, and then,
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it goes to a real wizard and they're
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<Emphasis> evaluating </Emphasis> that. And they wanted to use this equipment,
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and so the w- <Emphasis> question </Emphasis> came up, is - well, here's some more data. Should this be part of the <Emphasis> corpus </Emphasis> or not?
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And <Emphasis> my </Emphasis> attitude was <Emphasis> yes, </Emphasis> because there might be people
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who are using this corpus for <Pause/> acoustics, as opposed to just for language.
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Um, or also for <Emphasis> dialogue </Emphasis> of various sorts.
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Um, so it's not
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a <Emphasis> meeting. </Emphasis> Right? Because it's
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two people and they're not face to face.
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Wait a minute. <Comment Description="faster tempo"/> So,
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Yeah.
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I just wanted to understand it, cuz I -
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I'm -
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uh, hadn't quite followed this
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process. Um.
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So,
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it's wizard in the sen- usual sense that the person who is
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asking the questions doesn't know that it's, uh, a machi- not a machine?
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Right.
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Actually - actually,
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At the beginning. <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
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w- w-
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the - the - We do this - I dunno who came up with it, but I think it's a really clever idea.
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We simulate a computer breakdown
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Yeah.
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halfway through the session,
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and so then after that,
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the person's told that they're now talking to a,
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uh -
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It's a human operator.
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to a human.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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But of course they don't know that it's the same person both times. <Comment Description="while laughing"/> <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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So, we - we collect - we collect both human-computer and human-human data,
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essentially, in the same
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session.
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<Pronounce Pronunciation="/y/"> You </Pronounce> might wanna try
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collecting it the other way around sometime, saying that th- the computer isn't up yet and then - so then you can separate it out whether it's the beginning or end kind of effects. But, yeah.
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Hmm. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
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That's an idea.
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Yep.
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Yeah.
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<Pronounce Pronunciation="reduced"> That's </Pronounce> a good idea. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
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"No!" <Comment Description="lengthened"/>
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It's a lot more believable, too, if you tell <Pronounce Pronunciation=""em""> them </Pronounce> that they're -
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the computer part is running on a Windows machine.
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And the whole breakdown thing kinda makes sense.
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O-
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Just -
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just reboot it.
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abort, retry, fail? <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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So did they actually save the far-field <Pause/> data? Cuz at first they weren't -
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Well, this was - this was the question. So - so they were saying they were not going to, and I said, "well that's silly, if - if we're gonna try to do it for a corpus,
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<Emphasis> Yes. </Emphasis>
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Yeah.
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they weren't sa- O_K.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Wow.
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No.
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there might be people who are interested in acoustics."
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Or -
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<Uncertain> projector </Uncertain> <Comment Description="whispered"/>
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Yeah.
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We were not saying we are <Emphasis> not </Emphasis> <Pause/> doing it. We wer- we <Emphasis> just </Emphasis> wanted to do -
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No, the - the <Emphasis> question </Emphasis> is do we save one or two far-field channels or <Emphasis> all </Emphasis> of them?
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Right.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
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I - I see no reason not to do all of them.
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That -
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Um -
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<Uncertain> Nnn. </Uncertain>
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that if we <Emphasis> have </Emphasis> someone who is doing <Emphasis> acoustic </Emphasis> studies,
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Hmm. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
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Yeah.
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uh, it's nice to have
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the <Emphasis> same </Emphasis> for every recording.
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So, what is the purpose of this recording?
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Mm-hmm.
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This is to
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It's to be traini- to b- training data and development data for the SmartKom <Pause/> system.
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The English system? <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
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get
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<Pronounce Pronunciation=""a..coustic""> acoustic </Pronounce> and language model
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Yeah.
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Yeah. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
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training data for SmartKom.
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Right.
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Right.
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O_K.
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Where does this - ?
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Maybe we can have him vary the microphones, too, or they're different s- speakers.
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Well,
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B-
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Right. So - so - so for <Emphasis> their </Emphasis> usage, they don't need anything.
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so why not - ?
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Yeah. But - but I'm not sure about the legal aspect of - of that. Is - is there some contract with SmartKom or something about the data? What
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Right?
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Yeah.
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they - or, is - is that <Emphasis> our </Emphasis> data which we are collecting here, or - ? <Comment Description="leading question"/>
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We've never signed anything that said that
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O_K.
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we couldn't use anything that we did.
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O_K.
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We weren't supposed to collect any data.
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So.
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O_K.
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This was all -
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Yeah.
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So. Yeah, th- th- that was the question. If - if - ? Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Basically.
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No <Emphasis> that's </Emphasis> not a problem. I - L- look, it seems to me that if we're doing it anyway and we're doing it for these - these purposes that we have,
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Mm-hmm.
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and we have these distant mikes, we definitely should re-
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should
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save it all as long as we've got disk space, and disk is pretty cheap. So should we <Emphasis> save </Emphasis> it?
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O_K.
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And then -
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Now th- Yeah.
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So we save it because it's - it - it's potentially useful.
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Right.
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And now,
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what do we do with it is - is a s- separate question.
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I mean, anybody who's training something up could
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choose
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to put it -
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Right.
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eh, to u- include this or not. I - I would not say it was part of the meetings corpus. It isn't.
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But it's some other data we have, and if somebody
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doing experiment wants to train up including that then they can. Right?
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Mm-hmm.
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So it's -
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It -
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it -
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I guess it - the -
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begs the question of what is the meeting corpus. So if,
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at U_W they start recording
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two-person
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I think it's - I -
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hallway conversations is that
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part of the meeting corpus?
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I think - I th- think the idea of two or more people conversing with one another is key.
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Well, this has two or more people conversing with each other. They're just not face to face.
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Nnn, well <Pause/>
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Yeah.
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What if we just give it a -
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<Uncertain> Well this - </Uncertain>
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No, it doesn't. Right? It has -
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a name like we give these meetings a name?
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I mean, that was my intention.
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And then later on some people will consider it a meeting and some people won't, and -
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Yeah.
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That was my intention. So - so - s-
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Well this -
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Just give it a <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
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so <Emphasis> part </Emphasis> of the reason that I wanted to bring this up is,
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title.
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do we wanna <Emphasis> handle </Emphasis> it as a special case or do we wanna <Emphasis> fold </Emphasis> it in,
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Oh. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
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I think it is a s-
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we- give everyone who's involved as
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their own user I_D, give it session I_Ds,
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let all the tools that handle Meeting Recorder handle it,
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or do we wanna special case it? And if we were gonna special case it,
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Well,
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So. It - it - it -
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it -
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who's gonna do that?
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it makes sense to handle it
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I think -
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with the same infrastructure, since we don't want to duplicate things unnecessarily. But as far as
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distributing it, we shouldn't label it as part of this
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meeting corpus. We should
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Yeah.
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let it be its own corp-
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I don't see why not. It's just a different topic.
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Well it's - it - well, because -
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I ha- I have an extra point, which is the naturalness issue.
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Because we have, like, meetings that have a reason. That's one of the reasons that we were
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talking about this. And - and those -
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Yeah.
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and this sounds like it's more of an experimental setup. It's got a different purpose. <Comment Description=""purpose" very quietly"/>
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It's scenario-based, it's - it's human-computer interface -
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it's really
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pretty different. But I- I - I have no problem with somebody folding it in
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Yeah.
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for some experiment they're gonna do, but I don't think
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i- it - it doesn't match anything that we've described about meetings.
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Mm-hmm.
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Whereas everything that we talked about them doing at - at U_W and so forth really <Emphasis> does. </Emphasis> They're actually talking -
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O_K. So w- so what does that <Emphasis> mean </Emphasis> for how we are gonna organize things?
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Hmm. <Comment Description="very quietly"/>
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Yeah.
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<VocalSound Description="mouth"/> You can - you can - Again, as - as I think Andreas was saying,
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if you wanna use the same
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<Emphasis> tools </Emphasis> and the same conventions, there's no problem with that. It's just that it's, you know, different directory, it's called something different, it's - you know.
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It is <Emphasis> different. </Emphasis>
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You can't just fold it in as if it's - I mean, <Emphasis> digits </Emphasis> are different, too. Right?
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It might also be potentially confusing.
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Yeah, but those are folded in, and it's just -
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you just mark the transcripts differently. So - so one option is you fold it in,
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Right.
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and just simply in the file you mark somewhere that this is this type of
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Yeah, I th-
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<Emphasis> interaction, </Emphasis> rather than <Emphasis> another </Emphasis> type of interaction.
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Well, I don- I wouldn't call
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reading digits "meetings".
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Right? I mean, we - we - we were doing -
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Well, but -
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but,
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I put it under the same directory tree. You know, it's in "user doctor speech data M_R".
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Well -
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Can we just have a directory called, like, "other stuff"?
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And -
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Other. <Comment Description="quietly"/> <Comment Description="while laughing"/>
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Well - or, I dunno. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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I mean, I don't care what directory tree you have it under. <Comment Description="while laughing"/> Right? I mean that's just a -
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And - <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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and just,
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um, store it there. I mean - <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
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O_K. My preference
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<Uncertain> Yes. </Uncertain>
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is to have a single procedure so that I don't have to <Emphasis> think </Emphasis> too much about things.
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And,
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Yeah.
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just have a marking.
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If we do it any <Emphasis> other </Emphasis> way that means that we need a separate procedure,
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O_-
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You - you can use whatever procedure you want
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and someone has to <Emphasis> do </Emphasis> that.
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that's p- convenient for you. All I'm saying is that there's no way that we're gonna tell people that reading digits is meetings.
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Right.
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And similarly we're not gonna tell them that someone talking to a computer to get travel information is meetings.
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Those aren't meetings.
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But if it makes it easier for you to pu- fold them in the same procedures and have them under the same directory tree, knock yourself out. You know?
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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There's a
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couple other questions that I have too, and -
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and <Pause/> one of <Pronounce Pronunciation=""em""> them </Pronounce> is, what about, uh,
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consent issues?
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And the other one is, what about transcription?
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Transcription is done in Munich.
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Are - ?
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<Segment StartTime="1475.456" EndTime="1477.543" Participant="me018">
O_K. So <Emphasis> we </Emphasis> don't have to worry about transcribing it?
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Yeah.
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Alright.
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So, w- we will hafta worry about
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That's a - that's another argument to keep it separate, because it's gonna follow the SmartKom transcription conventions and not the
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format.
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Oh, O_K.
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Yeah.
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ICSI meeting transcription <Pronounce Pronunciation=""con-"+"tran-""> conventions. </Pronounce>
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<VocalSound Description="mouth"/> Ah.
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O_K. Well, I didn't realize that. That's - that's a -
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Good point.
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Good point.
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But I'm sure no one would have a problem with our folding it in for some acoustic modeling or - or some things.
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Um. <Comment Description="very quietly"/>
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Do we h- do we have, uh,
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um,
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American-born folk, uh, reading German -
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German, uh, pla- uh,
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place names and so forth? Is that - ?
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Yeah.
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Exactly.
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<VocalSound Description="mouth"/> Yeah.
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Yep.
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Yeah, great.
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Yeah.
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They - they even have a reading list. It's pretty funny.
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I bet that sounds good, huh?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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You can do that if you want. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/> O_K. <Comment Description="while laughing"/>
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Yeah. <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
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<VocalSound Description="breath"/> I dunno if you want that.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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So -
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Hmm. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
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Heidelberg <Comment Description="mock Southern accent"/>
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<Pronounce Pronunciation=""zackly""> Exactly </Pronounce>
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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Disk might eventually be an issue so we might -
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Do you wanna be a subject?
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Yeah, I be pretty good. <Comment Description="mock Southern accent, character voice"/>
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we -
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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we might need to, uh, <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
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get some more disk pretty soon. We're about -
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We -
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Yeah.
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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That was one of our concerns.
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Yeah.
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we're about half -
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<Segment StartTime="1529.234" EndTime="1530.841" Participant="me011">
halfway through our disk right now.
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<VocalSound Description="clears throat"/>
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<Segment StartTime="1531.010" EndTime="1532.800" Participant="me018">
Are we only half? I thought we were more than that.
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We're probably a little more than that because we're using up some space that we shouldn't be on.
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So,
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once everything gets converted over to the disks we're <Emphasis> supposed </Emphasis> to be using we'll be probably,
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uh, seventy-five percent.
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
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Well, when I was looking for space for Thilo, I found one disk that had,
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uh,
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I think it was nine gigs and another one had seventeen.
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Yep.
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And everything else was sorta committed.
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Uh -
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Were those
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backed-up or non-backed-up?
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Those were <Emphasis> non-backed-up. </Emphasis>
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<Emphasis> Non-back-up. </Emphasis>
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Right. So that's different.
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S- oh, you're talking about backed-up.
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I'm much more concerned about
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the backed-up.
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The non-backed-up, <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> yeah, i-
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I haven't looked to see how much of that we have. <Comment Description="decreasing volume"/>
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is cheap. I mean, if we need to we can
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buy a disk, hang it off a s- uh, workstation. If it's not backed-up the sysadmins don't care too much.
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Yeah. So, I mean,
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pretty much anytime we need a disk, we can get it at the rate that we're -
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You can -
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I shouldn't be saying this, but,
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you can just -
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you know,
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since
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the back-ups are every night,
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you can recycle the backed-up diskspace.
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Yeah. But that's - that's - <Pause/> that's risky.
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Yeah. You really shouldn't be saying - <Comment Description="while laughing"/>
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Mmm. Mmm. <Uncertain NumSyllables="1"> @@ </Uncertain> <Comment Description="uncodeable syllable"/>
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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I didn't say that. I didn't say that. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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Yeah, that's right. Beep that out. <Comment Description="while laughing"/>
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Da- we had allowed Dave to listen to these - <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> these,
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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Right. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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uh, recordings. <Emphasis> Um </Emphasis> -
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Yeah, I me- and
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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there's been this
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conversation going on about getting another file server, and -
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Mm-hmm.
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and
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<VocalSound Description="breath"/>
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<Segment StartTime="1604.105" EndTime="1604.643" Participant="me013">
we <Pronounce Pronunciation="/n/"> can </Pronounce> do that.
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We'll
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take the opportunity and get another big raft of -
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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Yeah.
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of disk, I guess.
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Well,
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It's really the back-up issue rather than the file server issue.
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I think - <Comment Description="hoarse voice quality"/>
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I think there's an argument for having - you know, you could use our old file server for - for disks that have data that <Pause/> is very
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rarely accessed, and then have a fast
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new file server
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for
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data that is, um,
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Yeah.
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heavily
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
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accessed.
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My understanding is, the issue isn't really the file server. We could <Emphasis> always </Emphasis> put more disks on. It's the back-up system.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's the back- it's the back-up capaci- Yeah.
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So - which is near saturation,
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apparently.
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So.
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Soon.
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I think - I think the file server <Emphasis> could </Emphasis> become an issue as
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we get
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a whole bunch more
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new compute machines. And we've got,
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you know,
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fifty
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machines trying to access
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data off of Abbott at once.
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Well, we're alright for now because the network's so slow. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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I mean, I think - I think we've raised this before and someone said this is not a reliable
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<Segment StartTime="1654.761" EndTime="1655.803" Participant="mn017">
way to do it, but the -
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What about putting the stuff on,
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<Segment StartTime="1658.246" EndTime="1660.665" Participant="mn017">
like, C_- C_D-ROM or D_V_D or something?
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Yeah. That was me.
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I was the one who said it was not reliable. The- they -
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O_K.
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they wear out.
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Oh, O_K.
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<Segment StartTime="1664.216" EndTime="1665.118" Participant="me011">
Yeah. The - the - th-
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But they wear out just from sitting on the shelf?
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Yep.
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Absolutely.
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Or from being <Pause/> <Pronounce Pronunciation=""reed""> read </Pronounce> and <Pronounce Pronunciation=""red""> read? </Pronounce>
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No.
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Read and write don't hurt <Pronounce Pronunciation=""em""> them </Pronounce> too much unless you scratch <Pronounce Pronunciation=""em""> them. </Pronounce>
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Oh, O_K.
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But the r-
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the write once, and the read-writes, don't last.
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So you don't wa- you don't wanna put ir- <Emphasis> un- </Emphasis>
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reproduceable data <Pause/> on them.
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<VocalSound Description="breath"/>
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<Pronounce Pronunciation=""wuh-huh""> Uh-huh. </Pronounce>
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<VocalSound Description="mouth"/>
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Wear out after what amount of time?
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Year or two.
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
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<Segment StartTime="1685.689" EndTime="1686.307" Participant="fe008">
Would it be - ?
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<Segment StartTime="1685.910" EndTime="1686.690" Participant="me013">
<Emphasis> Year </Emphasis> or two?
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Yep.
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Wow.
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<Segment StartTime="1688.858" EndTime="1689.225" Participant="fe008">
Hmm. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
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But if that -
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then you would
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think you'd <Pause/> hear much more
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clamoring about
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Yeah.
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data loss and -
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
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I mean, yeah, all the L_-
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
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I - I don't know many people who do it on C_D.
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I mean, they're - the most -
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L_D_C- all the L_D_C distributions are on C_D-ROM.
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fo- <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
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<Segment StartTime="1701.409" EndTime="1701.821" Participant="fe016">
Yeah.
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<Segment StartTime="1702.830" EndTime="1704.095" Participant="me011">
They're on C_D, but they're not -
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Like -
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tha- that's not the only source. They have <Pronounce Pronunciation=""em""> them </Pronounce> on disk.
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<VocalSound Description="clears throat"/>
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And they burn new ones every once in a while. But if you go -
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But, you know, we have -
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
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But we have like thirty <Pause/> you know, from <Pause/> ten years ago? No.
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if you go k-
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We have all sorts of C_D-ROMs from a long time ago.
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Yeah! Ten years ago. Ninety-one, and they're still all fine.
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Right.
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
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Yeah.
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Well, th-
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th-
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Were they burned or were they pressed?
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Yeah. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
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Uh, both. I've burned them and they're still O_K. I mean, <Emphasis> usually </Emphasis> they're -
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Yeah.
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O_K. The - the <Emphasis> pressed </Emphasis> ones last for- well, not forever, they've been finding even those degrade.
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<VocalSound Description="breath"/>
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Oh, I see.
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
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But, uh,
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the <Emphasis> burned </Emphasis> ones - I mean,
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when I say two or three years what I'm saying is that
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That's what I -
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I have had disks which are <Emphasis> gone </Emphasis> in a year.
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On the <Emphasis> average, </Emphasis> it'll probably be three or <Emphasis> four </Emphasis> years.
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But, uh - I - I - you don't want to per-
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p- have your only copy on a media that
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fails.
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Mmm.
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And they do.
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So how <Pronounce Pronunciation=""bout""> about </Pronounce> - ?
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
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Um,
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if you have <Pronounce Pronunciation=""em""> them </Pronounce> professionally <Emphasis> pressed, </Emphasis>
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y- you know, they're good for decades.
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So -
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so how about putting them on that
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plus,
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like on a - on -
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on DAT or some other
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medium that isn't
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<VocalSound Description="mouth"/> <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
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I think th- um,
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<Uncertain> risky </Uncertain>?
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we can already put them on tape.
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O_K.
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And the tape is hi- is <Emphasis> very </Emphasis> reliable.
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Mm-hmm.
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<Segment StartTime="1757.080" EndTime="1759.712" Participant="me011">
So the - the only issue is then <Pause/> if we need access to them.
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Right.
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So that's fine f- if we don't need access to <Pronounce Pronunciation=""em""> them. </Pronounce>
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Well, if - if - if you - if they last -
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Say, they actually last, like, five years, huh,
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in - in the typical case,
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and -
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and occasionally you might need to recreate one,
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and then you get your tape out, but otherwise you don't.
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Can't you just - you just put them on - ?
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So you just archive it on the
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tape, and then
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Yeah.
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put it on C_D as well?
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Right.
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Oh. So you're just saying put <Pronounce Pronunciation=""em""> them </Pronounce> on C_Ds
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for normal access.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I mean, you can do that but that's pretty annoying, because the C_Ds are so slow.
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What you -
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See - <Comment Description="very reduced"/>
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Yeah.
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Mmm. <Comment Description="low creaky sound"/>
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<VocalSound Description="mouth"/> Yeah.
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What'd be nice is a system that re-burned the C_Ds every
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year.
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H- everytime it was a "gonna" - "gonna die". <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/> Yeah.
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Well, I mean, the C_Ds are -
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Well -
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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It's like - like dynamic ra- D_RAM.
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are
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
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an op-
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Just before. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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Just before they- be- before it goes bad, it burns them in. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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Yeah.
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The -
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the C_D is an <Emphasis> alternative </Emphasis> to tape. ICSI already has a perfectly good tape system and it's more reliable.
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Yeah. <Comment Description="while laughing"/>
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
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You know -
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So for archiving, we'll just use tape.
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One - one thing I don't understand is, if you have the data -
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<Emphasis> I </Emphasis> would think -
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if - if you- if the meeting data
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is put on disk exactly once,
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then it's backed-up once and the back-up system should never have to
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Well,
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bother with it, <Pronounce Pronunciation="reduced"> uh, </Pronounce> more than once.
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regardless - Well, first of all there was,
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um, a problem with the
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archive in that I was every once in a while doing a chmod on all the directories an- or recursive chmod and chown, because
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Mm-hmm.
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
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they weren't getting <Emphasis> set </Emphasis> correctly every once in a while, and I was just,
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doing a
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minus R_ star,
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
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Mm-hmm.
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not realizing that that
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Ah. <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
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caused <Pause/> it to be re-backed-up.
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But <Emphasis> normally </Emphasis> you're correct.
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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But even without that, the back-up system is becoming saturated.
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But - but this back-up system is smart enough to figure out that something hasn't changed and doesn't need to be <Pause/> backed-up again.
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Sure, but we still have enough changed
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The b-
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that the nightly back-ups are starting to take too long.
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I think th- the - at least the once tha- that you put it on, it would - <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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it would <Comment Description="while laughing"/>
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O_K. So - so then, if - So - so then, let's - Right.
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
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It has nothing to do with the meeting. It's just the general ICSI back-up system is becoming saturated.
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kill that. So.
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O_K.
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Right.
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So, what if we buy,
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uh -
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uh, what - what do they call these, um <Pause/> high density - ?
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Well, why don't you have this -
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have a -
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this conversation with Dave Johnson tha- rather than with me?
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<Segment StartTime="1875.046" EndTime="1878.557" Participant="mn017">
No, no. Because this is <Pause/> maybe something that we can do without involving Dave, and -
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and,
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putting more burden on him.
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How <Pronounce Pronunciation=""bout""> about </Pronounce> we buy,
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uh - uh - uh, one of these high density tape drives?
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And we put the data actually on non-backed-up
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disks.
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And we do our own back-up once and for <Pronounce Pronunciation="vowel as in "cat""> all </Pronounce> - all, and then - and we don't have to bother this <Uncertain NumSyllables="1"> @@ </Uncertain> up?
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Actually, you know, we could do that just with the tape - with the current tape.
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I dunno what the- these tapes - uh, at some point these -
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I dunno. What kind of tape drive is it? Is it - is - ?
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I dunno but it's an automatic robot so it's very convenient.
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Wh- <Comment Description="perhaps beginning of "who""/>
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Right.
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You just run a program to restore them.
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The o-
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the one that we have?
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Yeah.
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But it might interfere with their back-up schedule, eh.
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The - I mean -
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But -
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No, we have s- we - Don't we have our own? Something wi- th- that doesn't -
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that isn't used by the back-up gang?
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Don't we have something
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Well they -
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downstairs?
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<Pronounce> What </Pronounce> kinda tape drive?
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Just in - ?
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Well -
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Yeah.
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but - no, but Andreas's point is a good one. And we don't <Emphasis> have </Emphasis> to do anything <Emphasis> ourselves </Emphasis> to do that. They're already right now on tape.
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Right.
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Right. So your - your <Emphasis> point </Emphasis> is, and I think it's a <Emphasis> good </Emphasis> one, that we could just get more disk and put it there.
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Mmm.
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On an X_H - uh, X_ - X_ whatever partition. <Uncertain> Yeah. </Uncertain>
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Yeah.
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That's not a bad idea.
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Yeah, that's basically what I was gonna say, is that a disk is - is so cheap it's es- essentially, you know, close to free.
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So once it's on tape -
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Right.
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And the only thing that costs is the back-up <Pause/> issue,
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Right.
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eh, to first order. And we can take care of that by putting it on non-back- <Pause/> up drives and just
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Mm-hmm.
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backing it up once onto this tape.
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I think that's a good idea.
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Right. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
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<Pronounce Pronunciation="not fully vocalized"> Oh. </Pronounce> Yeah.
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O_K. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
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Good.
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It's good.
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So,
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who's gonna do these back-ups? The people that collect it?
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Uh <Pause/>
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Well, I'll talk to Dave,
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and - and see what th- how -
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what the best way of doing that is.
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It's probably gonna n- <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
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There's a little utility
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that
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will manually burn a tape for you, and that's probably the right way to do it.
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Yeah, and we should probably make that part of the procedure for recording the meetings.
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Well, s-
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Yep.
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Yeah. That's what I'm wondering, if - <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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Well <Pause/> we're g- we're gonna automate that. My intention is to <Pause/> do a script that'll do everything. <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
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O_K.
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I mean, you don't have to physically
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put a tape in the drive? Or s- ? <Comment Description="leading question"/>
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No.
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Oh, O_K.
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It's all tape robot, so you just sit down at your computer and you type a command.
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So it's just -
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Oh, O_K.
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<Segment StartTime="1979.539" EndTime="1982.710" Participant="mn017">
Yeah, but then you're effectively using the resources of the back-up system.
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Or is that a different tape robot?
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But not at the same time.
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Yeah. But y- but you would be anyway.
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No, no. See -
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Right? Because - <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
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No, no, no. <Emphasis> He's </Emphasis> saying get a <Emphasis> whole </Emphasis> different drive.
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Yeah, just give a dedi-
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But there's no reason to do that.
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Well, I'm saying is <Uncertain NumSyllables="1"> @@ </Uncertain>
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It - we already have it there and it - it's -
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i- if you go to Dave, and - and -
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and ask him "can I use your tape robot?",
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<Segment StartTime="1996.297" EndTime="1997.127" Participant="mn017">
he will say,
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"well <Pause/> that's gonna screw up our back-up operation."
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<Segment StartTime="1999.344" EndTime="1999.842" Participant="me011">
No, we won't.
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<Segment StartTime="2000.360" EndTime="2000.881" Participant="me011">
He'll say
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<Segment StartTime="2001.301" EndTime="2004.355" Participant="me011">
"if - if that means <Pause/> that it's not gonna be backed-up
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<Segment StartTime="2004.526" EndTime="2005.857" Participant="me011">
<Emphasis> standardly, </Emphasis> great."
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<Segment StartTime="2006.695" EndTime="2007.074" Participant="me013">
<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
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<Segment StartTime="2007.074" EndTime="2007.509" Participant="me013">
He- I -
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<Segment StartTime="2007.669" EndTime="2012.389" Participant="me013">
Dave has - has promoted this in the past. So I don't think he's actually against it. Yeah.
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2010.224" EndTime="2011.868" Participant="me011">
Yeah. It's - it's definitely no problem.
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2010.872" EndTime="2011.823" Participant="mn017">
Oh, O_K. Alright.
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2011.885" EndTime="2012.336" Participant="mn017">
Alright.
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2013.211" EndTime="2013.501" Participant="mn017">
Good.
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2013.325" EndTime="2013.704" Participant="me013">
<Pronounce Pronunciation=""mm-kay""> O_K. </Pronounce>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2014.171" EndTime="2016.258" Participant="fe016">
What about if the times overlap
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2017.569" EndTime="2018.640" Participant="fe016">
with the normal back-up
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2018.840" EndTime="2019.246" Participant="fe016">
time?
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2019.246" EndTime="2019.646" Participant="fe016">
<VocalSound Description="breath"/>
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<Segment StartTime="2019.539" EndTime="2019.876" Participant="me011">
<VocalSound Description="mouth"/>
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<Segment StartTime="2020.068" EndTime="2022.974" Participant="me011">
Um, it's - it's just - it's just a utility which queues up.
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<Segment StartTime="2023.303" EndTime="2023.879" Participant="fe016">
O_K.
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<Segment StartTime="2023.617" EndTime="2026.375" Participant="me011">
It just queues it up and - and when it's available, it will copy it.
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<Segment StartTime="2026.681" EndTime="2026.980" Participant="me013">
Yeah. <Comment Description="very quietly"/>
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<Segment StartTime="2026.858" EndTime="2027.212" Participant="me011">
And then
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<Segment StartTime="2027.212" EndTime="2030.421" Participant="me011">
you can tell it to then remove it from the disk or you can, you know, do it a-
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<Segment StartTime="2030.639" EndTime="2032.368" Participant="me011">
a few days later or whatever you wanna do,
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after you confirm that it's really backed-up.
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<Segment StartTime="2032.665" EndTime="2033.281" Participant="fe016">
O_K.
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2037.020" EndTime="2038.079" Participant="me011">
N_W - ?
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2038.358" EndTime="2039.614" Participant="fe008">
You saying N_W archive?
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<Segment StartTime="2039.499" EndTime="2041.430" Participant="me011">
N_W archive. That's what it is. <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
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<Segment StartTime="2040.490" EndTime="2040.849" Participant="fe008">
Yep <Comment Description="whispered"/>
</Segment>
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
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<Segment StartTime="2041.729" EndTime="2041.997" Participant="me013">
<Pronounce Pronunciation=""kay""> O_K. </Pronounce>
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<Segment StartTime="2042.441" EndTime="2045.469" Participant="fe008">
And if you did that during the day it would never make it to the nightly back-ups.
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<Segment StartTime="2044.860" EndTime="2045.188" Participant="me011">
Right.
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2045.748" EndTime="2047.740" Participant="fe008">
And then there wouldn't be this extra load.
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<Segment StartTime="2047.426" EndTime="2051.511" Participant="mn017">
Well, it - if he - you have to put the data on a - on a non-backed-up disk to begin with.
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<Segment StartTime="2053.057" EndTime="2054.031" Participant="mn017">
So that - so that -
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<Segment StartTime="2053.145" EndTime="2053.410" Participant="me011">
Right.
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2053.616" EndTime="2053.895" Participant="fe008">
Well,
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2054.633" EndTime="2057.024" Participant="fe008">
but you can have it N_W archive to - you can have,
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otherwise you don't - you -
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2057.024" EndTime="2057.263" Participant="fe008">
<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2057.263" EndTime="2060.032" Participant="fe008">
uh, a non-backed-up disk N_W archived,
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<Segment StartTime="2060.069" EndTime="2060.335" Participant="me011">
Right.
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2060.530" EndTime="2062.563" Participant="fe008">
and it'll never show up on the nightly back-ups.
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<Segment StartTime="2060.616" EndTime="2061.363" Participant="me011">
And then it never -
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2060.648" EndTime="2061.042" Participant="mn017">
Right.
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2061.415" EndTime="2061.895" Participant="mn017">
Right.
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2062.002" EndTime="2062.315" Participant="me011">
Right.
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<Segment StartTime="2062.829" EndTime="2065.324" Participant="me011">
Which I'm sure would make ever- the sysadmins very happy.
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<Segment StartTime="2062.926" EndTime="2063.320" Participant="mn017">
Right. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2063.533" EndTime="2063.934" Participant="me013">
<VocalSound Description="cough"/>
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<Segment StartTime="2065.450" EndTime="2065.749" Participant="fe008">
Yeah. <Comment Description="whispered"/>
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<Segment StartTime="2065.885" EndTime="2066.877" Participant="me011">
So, I think that's a good idea.
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<Segment StartTime="2065.970" EndTime="2066.271" Participant="mn017">
<Pronounce Pronunciation=""kay""> O_K. </Pronounce>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2067.080" EndTime="2067.937" Participant="me011">
That's what we should do.
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2067.179" EndTime="2067.476" Participant="mn017">
<Pronounce Pronunciation=""kay""> O_K. </Pronounce> <Comment Description="quietly"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2068.217" EndTime="2068.591" Participant="me011">
<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2068.591" EndTime="2070.683" Participant="me011">
So, that means we'll probably wanna convert all -
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2071.430" EndTime="2072.451" Participant="me011">
all those files -
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<Segment StartTime="2072.560" EndTime="2074.274" Participant="me011">
filesystems to non-backed-up media.
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2075.542" EndTime="2076.289" Participant="me018">
That sounds good.
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2076.359" EndTime="2076.609" Participant="me011">
Yep.
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2076.566" EndTime="2076.725" Participant="me013">
Yeah.
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2077.073" EndTime="2078.010" Participant="me013">
<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2078.010" EndTime="2078.607" Participant="me013">
Um,
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2078.886" EndTime="2079.265" Participant="me013">
<Pronounce Pronunciation=""nother""> another, </Pronounce>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2079.504" EndTime="2080.580" Participant="me013">
thing on the agenda said
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2080.679" EndTime="2082.672" Participant="me013">
S_R_I recognition experiments?
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2083.792" EndTime="2084.251" Participant="me013">
<Pronounce Pronunciation=""whazzat""> What's that? </Pronounce>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2084.136" EndTime="2085.406" Participant="mn017">
S_R_I recognition? <Comment Description="quietly"/> Oh.
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2085.590" EndTime="2086.339" Participant="me011">
That wasn't me.
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2086.657" EndTime="2087.320" Participant="mn017">
Um.
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2086.918" EndTime="2087.595" Participant="me013">
<Uncertain> Uh. Who's that? </Uncertain>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2087.672" EndTime="2088.025" Participant="mn017">
well,
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2088.480" EndTime="2088.936" Participant="mn017">
<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<Segment StartTime="2088.756" EndTime="2089.356" Participant="mn014">
<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<Segment StartTime="2088.936" EndTime="2089.434" Participant="mn017">
<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
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<Segment StartTime="2089.434" EndTime="2091.309" Participant="mn017">
we have lots of them. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/>
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<Segment StartTime="2090.350" EndTime="2091.479" Participant="mn014">
<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<Segment StartTime="2090.388" EndTime="2091.294" Participant="me018">
<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<Segment StartTime="2090.589" EndTime="2090.914" Participant="me011">
<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<Segment StartTime="2090.659" EndTime="2090.897" Participant="me001">
<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<Segment StartTime="2091.578" EndTime="2092.096" Participant="mn017">
Uh,
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<Segment StartTime="2092.158" EndTime="2093.381" Participant="mn017">
I dunno. Chuck, do you have any -
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<Segment StartTime="2093.567" EndTime="2094.272" Participant="mn017">
any updates?
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2093.583" EndTime="2093.943" Participant="me018">
<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
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<Segment StartTime="2093.620" EndTime="2095.123" Participant="mn014">
<VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/>
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<Segment StartTime="2094.164" EndTime="2094.999" Participant="me018">
N- I'm
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2095.220" EndTime="2097.651" Participant="me018">
successfully, uh, increasing the error rate.
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2097.798" EndTime="2098.259" Participant="me018">
Uh -
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2098.130" EndTime="2100.102" Participant="fe016">
<VocalSound Description="laugh"/> <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2098.189" EndTime="2098.828" Participant="me011">
That's good.
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2098.259" EndTime="2101.290" Participant="me018">
<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2098.290" EndTime="2098.702" Participant="mn017">
Oh.
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2098.372" EndTime="2098.945" Participant="me001">
Mmm.
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2098.957" EndTime="2100.884" Participant="mn014">
<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2099.099" EndTime="2100.173" Participant="me051">
<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2099.448" EndTime="2100.111" Participant="mn017">
<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2099.917" EndTime="2100.478" Participant="me011">
<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2100.102" EndTime="2101.343" Participant="fe016">
Lift the Herve approach. <Comment Description="while laughing"/>
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<Segment StartTime="2100.111" EndTime="2100.754" Participant="mn017">
<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2101.121" EndTime="2102.194" Participant="mn014">
<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<Segment StartTime="2101.290" EndTime="2101.791" Participant="me018">
Yeah. <Comment Description="while laughing"/>
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
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<Segment StartTime="2101.791" EndTime="2102.111" Participant="me018">
<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2101.924" EndTime="2102.445" Participant="me001">
<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2102.111" EndTime="2103.854" Participant="me018">
So, I mean I'm just playing with, um,
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2103.854" EndTime="2107.240" Participant="me018">
the number of Gaussians that we use in the - the recognizer, and -
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2107.260" EndTime="2111.432" Participant="mn017">
Well, you have to sa- you have to <Pause/> tell people that you're - you're doing - you're trying the <Emphasis> tandem </Emphasis> features.
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<Segment StartTime="2111.434" EndTime="2113.503" Participant="me018">
Yes, I'm using tandem features. <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
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<Segment StartTime="2112.550" EndTime="2113.419" Participant="me011">
Oh you are? Cool.
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2112.820" EndTime="2114.148" Participant="mn017">
A- and I'm still
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2113.503" EndTime="2116.108" Participant="me018">
And - <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2113.810" EndTime="2113.935" Participant="me011">
<Uncertain NumSyllables="1"> @@ </Uncertain> <Comment Description="uncodeable vocal sound"/>
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<Segment StartTime="2114.532" EndTime="2116.423" Participant="mn017">
tinkering with the P_L_P features.
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<Segment StartTime="2116.670" EndTime="2119.875" Participant="me013">
Yeah, I got confused by the results. It sai- because - uh, the <Pause/> meeting before,
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2119.875" EndTime="2120.195" Participant="me013">
<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2120.195" EndTime="2123.522" Participant="me013">
you said "O_K, we got it down to where they're - they're within a tenth of a percent".
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<Segment StartTime="2122.178" EndTime="2123.300" Participant="me018">
That was on <Emphasis> males. </Emphasis>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2122.191" EndTime="2122.524" Participant="mn017">
Right.
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2122.524" EndTime="2122.905" Participant="mn017">
<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2122.905" EndTime="2125.121" Participant="mn017">
That was - that was before I tried it on the females.
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<Segment StartTime="2125.116" EndTime="2125.708" Participant="me013">
<Emphasis> Oh. </Emphasis>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2125.121" EndTime="2127.266" Participant="mn017">
See, women are nothi- are,
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<Segment StartTime="2125.961" EndTime="2126.301" Participant="mn014">
<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<Segment StartTime="2125.967" EndTime="2127.495" Participant="me013">
It's the <Emphasis> women </Emphasis> are the problem. O_K.
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trouble. Right? As we all know. So.
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<VocalSound Description="mock growl"/> <Comment Description="vocal gesture of mock anger"/>
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<VocalSound Description="laugh, "tsssss""/>
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<VocalSound Description="mouth"/> <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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Well, let's just say that men are simple.
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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So - <Comment Description="while laughing"/>
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so, when -
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<Segment StartTime="2135.558" EndTime="2136.813" Participant="mn017">
So I - I had -
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
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<Segment StartTime="2136.657" EndTime="2137.965" Participant="me011">
That was a quick response.
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I ha-
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<Segment StartTime="2137.676" EndTime="2138.858" Participant="me018">
<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<Segment StartTime="2137.829" EndTime="2139.776" Participant="mn014">
<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<Segment StartTime="2137.962" EndTime="2139.914" Participant="mn017">
So, we had reached the point where -
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<VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/>
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
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I'm well rehearsed. <Comment Description="while laughing"/>
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<VocalSound Description="breath"/>
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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Yeah. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/>
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<Segment StartTime="2141.508" EndTime="2143.094" Participant="mn017">
we had reached the point where, <Comment Description="while laughing"/>
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<Segment StartTime="2143.492" EndTime="2143.918" Participant="mn017">
um,
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2144.098" EndTime="2146.588" Participant="mn017">
on the male portion of the <Pause/> development set,
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2146.728" EndTime="2147.385" Participant="mn017">
the,
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um -
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2148.175" EndTime="2149.849" Participant="mn017">
or one of the development sets, I should say -
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<Segment StartTime="2149.849" EndTime="2150.247" Participant="mn017">
<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
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<Segment StartTime="2150.247" EndTime="2151.363" Participant="mn017">
the, um -
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2151.502" EndTime="2154.727" Participant="mn017">
the male error rate with, uh, ICSI P_L_P features
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2155.046" EndTime="2155.544" Participant="mn017">
was
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2155.823" EndTime="2156.919" Participant="mn017">
pretty much identical
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2157.138" EndTime="2158.334" Participant="mn017">
with, uh, S_R_I
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<Segment StartTime="2159.067" EndTime="2159.505" Participant="mn017">
features.
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which are <Pause/> M_F_C_C. So,
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um,
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then I thought, "Oh, great.
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I'll j- I'll -
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just let's make sure everything works on the females." And
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the error rate -
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Oh.
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you know, there was a three percent difference.
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Uh-huh.
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So,
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<VocalSound Description="mouth"/>
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Is there less training data?
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uh -
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No, actually there's more training data.
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I mean, we don-
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This is on just digits?
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No, no.
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Oh, sorry. O_K. This is on - Oh, O_K.
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No. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
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No. It's, uh, Swi-
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Hub-five.
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This is Hub-five.
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Hub-five. Yeah.
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Yeah. <Comment Description="very quietly"/>
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Um, and the test data is CallHome and Switchboard.
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So,
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uh - so then <Pause/> um -
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Oh, and plus the -
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the vocal tract <Pause/> length normalization
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didn't -
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actually made things <Emphasis> worse. </Emphasis>
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So something's really seriously wrong. So -
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<VocalSound Description="mouth"/> <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
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Um -
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Aha! <Comment Description="lengthened"/>
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Hhh. <Comment Description="vocal gesture of difficulty"/>
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So -
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O_K.
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So -
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So - but you see, now, between - between the males
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and the females, there's certainly a much bigger
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difference in the scaling
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range,
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than there is, say, just within the males.
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And what you were using before was scaling factors that were just from the - the m- the <Pause/> S_R_I front-end.
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And that worked - that worked fine.
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That's true.
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Yeah.
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Uh,
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but now you're looking over a larger range and it may not be so fine.
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Well, um -
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So -
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I just -
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d- so the one thing that I then tried was to
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put in the low-pass filter,
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which we have in the -
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So, most -
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most
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Hub-five systems actually
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band-limit the -
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uh, at about,
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uh, thirty-seven hundred,
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Uh-huh.
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um,
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hertz.
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Although, you know, normally, I mean, the channel goes to
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four -
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four thousand. Right? So,
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um -
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And that actually helped,
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uh -
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Uh-huh.
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uh,
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a little bit.
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Um <Pause/> and it didn't hurt on the males either. So,
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um -
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<VocalSound Description="dental click"/> <Comment Description="vocal gesture"/>
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And I'm now,
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uh,
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trying
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the -
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Oh, and suddenly, also the v- the vocal tract length normalization only in the <Emphasis> test </Emphasis> se- on the <Emphasis> test </Emphasis> data.
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So, you can do vocal tract length normalization
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Yeah.
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on the test data only or on both the training and the test.
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And
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you expect it to help a <Emphasis> little </Emphasis> bit if you do it only on the <Emphasis> test, </Emphasis> and s- more if you do it on both training and test.
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Yeah. <Comment Description="while laughing"/>
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And
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so the -
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It now helps,
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if you do it only on the test, and
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I'm currently retraining <Emphasis> another </Emphasis> set of models where it's both in the training and the test, and then
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we'll -
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we'll have,
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hopefully, even better results. So -
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But there's -
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It looks like there will still be some difference,
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maybe
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between one and two percent,
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um,
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Huh.
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for the females. And so,
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um,
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you know, I'm open to suggestions.
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And it <Emphasis> is </Emphasis> true that the, uh - that the -
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Mm-hmm.
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
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you know, we <Emphasis> are </Emphasis> using the -
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But -
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it <Emphasis> can't </Emphasis> be just the
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V_T_L,
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Uh-huh.
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because
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if you <Emphasis> don't </Emphasis> do V_T_L in both systems,
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No - no. I - I <Pronounce Pronunciation=""member""> remember </Pronounce> that.
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It's much worse.
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uh, you know, the -
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Yeah.
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the females are considerably worse
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in the -
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with the P_L_P features.
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So there must be some -
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something else going on.
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Well, what's the standard - ?
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<Pronounce Pronunciation=""eh""> Yeah, </Pronounce> so I thought the performance was actually a little <Emphasis> better </Emphasis> on females than males.
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That's what I thought, too. <Comment Description="very quietly"/>
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Um,
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<Pause/> that <Pause/> ye- <Comment Description="very strained"/> overall, yes, but on this particular development test set,
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they're actually a little worse.
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But that's beside the point. We're looking at the discrepancy between
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the S_R_I
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system and the
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S_R_I system when trained with ICSI features. <Comment Description="decreasing volume"/>
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Right. I'm just wondering if that -
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What's - Are the freq- ?
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if - if you have any indication of your standard features, you know, if that's also different <Pause/> or in the same direction or not.
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You're -
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This is - lemme ask a q-
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Cuz - <Comment Description="quietly"/>
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more basic que- I mean, is this, uh - uh,
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Mm-hmm.
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iterative,
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Baum-Welch training? Or is it Viterbi training? Or - ? <Comment Description="leading question"/>
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It's Baum-Welch training.
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Baum-Welch training.
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And how do you determine when to - to stop iterating?
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Um -
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<VocalSound Description="mouth"/>
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Well, actually,
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we - we just basically do a s-
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a fixed number of iterations.
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Hmm.
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Uh, in this case four.
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Um,
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which -
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Eh, we used to do only three, and then we
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found out we can squeeze -
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And it was
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basically,
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we're s- we're keeping it on the safe side. But you're d- Right. It might be that one more iteration
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would - would help, but it's sort of <Pause/> you know.
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Or maybe - or maybe you're doing one too <Emphasis> many. </Emphasis> I mean it's - it's -
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No, but with Baum-Welch,
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there shouldn't be an over-fitting issue, really.
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<Uncertain NumSyllables="2"> @@ </Uncertain> <Comment Description="uncodeable vocal sounds"/>
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Uh. <Comment Description="lengthened"/> Well, there can be. Sure.
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Um.
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Well, you can try each one on a cross-validation set, can't you?
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It d- if you - if you remember some years ago Bill Byrne did a thing where he was - he was looking at that, and he showed that you <Emphasis> could </Emphasis> get it. So. <Comment Description="decreasing volume"/>
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Yeah.
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But - <Comment Description="quietly"/>
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Well, yeah. We can -
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but -
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but, um -
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Well, that's - that's the easy one to check, because
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Yeah.
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Do you - ?
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we save all the intermediate models and we can -
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And in each case, ho-
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What - ?
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um, I'm sorry - in each case how do you determine,
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you know, the - the usual <Pause/> fudge factors? The, uh -
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the, uh, language, uh, scaling, acoustic scaling, uh,
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Um <Pause/> I uh - <Comment Description="creaky voice on "uh""/>
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uh -
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I'm actually re-optimizing them.
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Although that hasn't shown to make <Pause/> a big difference. <Comment Description="quietly, and slower tempo"/>
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O_K. And the pru- the question he was asking at one point about pruning,
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uh -
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Pruning - ?
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Remember that one?
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Pruning in the - ?
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Well, he was - he's - it looked like the probabil- at one point he was looking at the probabilities he was getting out - at the likelihoods he was getting out of P_L_P versus mel cepstrum, and they looked pretty different,
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Yeah, the likelihoods were <Pause/> lower
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as I recall.
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Oh. <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
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And so, uh, there's the question -
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for the P_L_P.
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I- you mean -
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did you see this in the S_R_I system?
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Mm-hmm.
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Um.
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Was just looking through the log files, and - <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
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Well, the likelihoods are -
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You can't directly compare them,
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because, for every set of models you compute a new normalization.
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And so these
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log probabilities, they aren't
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directly <Pronounce Pronunciation=""com-*par-able""> comparable </Pronounce> because you have a different normalization constants for each model you train. So -
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<VocalSound Description="mouth"/> Oh.
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Hmm.
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But, still it's a question - if you have some threshold somewhere in terms of beam search or something, or - ? <Comment Description="leading question"/>
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> Well, yeah. That's what I was wondering.
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W- yeah. I mean -
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Uh - <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
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I mean, if you have one threshold that works well
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because
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the range of your likelihoods is in
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this area -
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We prune very conservatively. I mean,
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as we saw with the meeting data,
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um <Pause/> we could probably
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tighten the pruning without really -
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So we- we basically we have a very open beam.
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But, you're only talking about a percent or two. Right? Here we're- we're saying that we- there - gee, there's this b- eh, there's this difference here.
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Yeah.
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And <Pause/> it -
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See cuz, i- i- <Comment Description="uncodeable sounds"/>
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there could be lots of things. Right? But - but - but - but,
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Right.
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Course.
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um,
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let's suppose just for a second that, uh, we've sort of
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taken out a lot of the - the major differences, uh, between the two. I mean, we're already sort of using the mel scale and we're using the same style filter integration, and
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Mm-hmm.
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Right.
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and, well, we're making sure that low and high -
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Actually, there is - the difference in that. So, for the P_L_P features we use the triangular
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filter shapes. And for the -
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in the S_R_I front-end we use the trapezoidal one.
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And what's the top frequency of each?
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Well, now it's the same.
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It's thirty -
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thirty to seven hundred and sixty hertz.
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Yeah. Exp- one's triangular, one's trapezoidal. So -
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No, no. But -
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Before we - i- i- th- with straight P_L_P, it's trapezoidal also. But then we had a slight difference in the - in the scale.
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Well -
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But -
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Uh, so.
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Since
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currently the Feacalc program doesn't allow me to change <Pause/> the filter shape independently of the scale.
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Uh-huh.
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And,
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I did the experiment on the <Emphasis> S_R_I </Emphasis> front-end where I tried the -
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y- where the standard used to be
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to use trapezoidal filters.
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You can actually continuously vary it between the two. And so I
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wen-
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I swi- I tried the trap- eh, triangular ones.
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And it did <Emphasis> slightly </Emphasis> worse, but it's really a small difference.
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Hmm.
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So -
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Coup-
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Couple tenths of a percent or something. <Uncertain> Right. </Uncertain>
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O_K. So it's <Emphasis> not </Emphasis> just
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Yeah, exactly. So, it's not - I don't think the filter shape by itself will make
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losing some <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
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frequency range.
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Yeah.
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<VocalSound Description="mouth"/> <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
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a huge <Comment Description="decreasing volume"/>
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Right. So the oth-
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difference. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
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Yeah.
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the other
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thing that - So, f-
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i-
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We've always viewed it, anyway, as the <Emphasis> major </Emphasis> difference between the two,
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is actually in the smoothing,
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Mm-hmm.
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that the - that the, um,
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P_L_P, and -
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and the reason P_L_P has been
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advantageous in, uh, slightly noisy situations is because,
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Mm-hmm.
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P_L_P does the smoothing at the end by an auto-regressive model,
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and mel cepstrum does it by just computing the lower
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cepstral coefficients.
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Mm-hmm.
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Um.
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So,
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um -
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O_K. So <Pause/> one thing I haven't done yet is to actually do all of this with
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a much larger -
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with our full training set.
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So right now, we're using a -
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I don't know, forty?
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I- i- it's - it's - <Pronounce Pronunciation=""ehhh""> eh </Pronounce> <Comment Description="vocal gesture, greatly lengthened with creaky voice, while pondering"/>
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it's a f- training set that's about,
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um,
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you know, by a factor of four smaller than what we use when we train the full system. So,
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Mm-hmm. <Comment Description="very quietly"/>
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some of these smoothing issues are over-fitting for that matter. And the Baum-Welch
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Mm-hmm. <Comment Description="very quietly"/>
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should
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be much less of a factor, if you go
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full -
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Could be. Yeah.
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whole hog. And so,
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w- so, just um -
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so the strategy is to first sort of treat things <Pause/> with fast turn-around on a smaller training set and then,
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when you've sort of,
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narrowed it down, you try it on a
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Yeah.
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larger training set. And so, we haven't done that yet.
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Now the other que- related question, though, is - is,
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<VocalSound Description="mouth"/> uh, what's the boot models
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for these things?
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Th- th- the boot models <Emphasis> are </Emphasis> trained from scratch. So we compute, um -
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So, we start with a,
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um,
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alil- alignment
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that we computed with the b- sort of the best system we have.
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And -
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and then we train from scratch. So we com- we do a,
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you know, w- um -
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We collect the -
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uh,
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the observations
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from those alignments under each of the feature
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sets that - that we <Pause/> train.
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And then,
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from there we do,
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um -
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There's a lot of, actually -
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The way it works, you first train a phonetically-tied
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mixture model.
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Um.
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You do a total of -
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First you do a context-independent
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P_T_M model. Then you switch to a context -
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You do two iterations of that.
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Then you do two iterations of - of - of context-<Emphasis> dependent </Emphasis>
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phonetically-tied mixtures.
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And then from that you - you do the -
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you - you go to a state-clustered model,
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Yeah.
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and you do four iterations of that. So there's a <Emphasis> lot </Emphasis> of iterations overall between your
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original boot models and the final models. I don't think that -
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Hmm.
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We have never seen big
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differences. Once I thought "oh, I can -
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Now I have these <Emphasis> much </Emphasis> better models. I'll re-generate my initial alignments. Then I'll get much better models at the end."
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Made no difference whatsoever. It's -
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Right.
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I think it's - eh, i- <Comment Description="very very quietly, and strained"/>
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the boot models are <Uncertain> recur- </Uncertain>
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Well, mis- for making things <Emphasis> better. </Emphasis> Yeah. But,
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this for making things <Emphasis> worse. </Emphasis> This it migh- <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> Th- the thought is - is - is <Emphasis> possible </Emphasis> - another possible <Pause/> partial cause is if the boot models
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Mm-hmm.
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used a comple- used a different feature set,
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Mm-hmm.
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that - <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
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But there <Emphasis> are </Emphasis> no boot models, in fact.
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<VocalSound Description="breath"/>
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You - you're not booting from initial models. You're booting from initial alignments.
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Which you got from a different feature set.
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<Uncertain NumSyllables="1"> @@ </Uncertain>
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That's correct.
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So, those features <Emphasis> look </Emphasis> at the data differently, actually.
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Yeah, but -
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I mean, you know, they - they will find boundaries a little differently, though - You know, all th- all that sort of thing is actually slightly different.
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I'd expect it to be a minor effect, but -
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But - but - but, what I'm - what I'm saying is -
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So,
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we e-
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w- f- w-
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For a long time we had used boot alignments
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that
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had been trained with a -
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<VocalSound Description="mouth"/>
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with the same <Emphasis> front-end </Emphasis> but with acoustic models that were,
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like, fifteen percent worse than what we use now.
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<NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
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Mm-hmm.
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And with a dict- different dictionary - with a <Emphasis> considerably </Emphasis> different dictionary, which was much less detailed and much less well-suited.
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Mm-hmm.
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Yeah.
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And so,
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then we switched to new boot alignments, which - which now had the benefit of all these
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improvements that we've made over two years in the system.
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Right.
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And,
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the result in the end was no different.
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Right.
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So, what I'm saying is, the exact nature of these boot alignments is
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probably not <Pause/> a big factor in the quality of the final models. <Comment Description="decreasing volume"/>
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Yeah, maybe not.
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But <Pause/> it - it - I st- still see it as - I mean,
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Yeah.
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<NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
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there's - there's a history to this, too, but I - uh, I don't wanna go into, but -
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Mm-hmm.
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but I - I - I th- I think it <Emphasis> could </Emphasis> be
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<Pronounce Pronunciation=""yeah"+"right""> Yeah. </Pronounce>
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the things <Pause/> that it -
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the <Emphasis> data </Emphasis> is being viewed in a certain way,
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Right.
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uh, that
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a beginning
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is <Emphasis> here </Emphasis> rather than <Emphasis> there </Emphasis> and so forth, because the actual signal-processing you're doing is slightly different.
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Right.
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But,
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
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Yeah.
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it's - it's - that's probably not it.
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Anyway, I - I - I should really reserve,
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uh,
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any conclusions until we've done it on the
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large training set,
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um, and until we've seen the results with the - with the V_T_L in training. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
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So.
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Yeah. At <Emphasis> some </Emphasis> point you also might wanna <Emphasis> take </Emphasis> the same thing and try it on,
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Yeah.
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uh, some Broadcast News data or something else that actually has - has some noisy -
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
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noisy components, so we can see
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if any conclusions we come to holds
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<VocalSound Description="mouth"/> across <Pause/> different data. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
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Right.
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
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Uh - <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
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And, uh, with <Emphasis> this, </Emphasis> I have to leave. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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Hmm!
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O_K.
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<NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/> <Uncertain> With this said. </Uncertain>
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> So, is there something quick about Absinthe <Pause/> that you - ?
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Uh. Just what we were talking about before, which is that I
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ported a <Uncertain> Blass </Uncertain> library to Absinthe,
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and then got -
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got it working with fast-forward,
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and got
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Oh.
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<VocalSound Description="mouth"/> <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
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a speedup roughly proportional to the number of processors times the clock cycle. So, that's pretty good.
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Oh!
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Cool.
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Um, I'm in the process of doing it for Quicknet, but there's something going wrong and it's about half the speed that
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I was estimating it <Emphasis> should </Emphasis> be, and I'm not sure why.
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Mm-hmm.
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But I'll keep working on it. But the -
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what it means is that it's likely that for net training and forward passes,
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we'll -
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Absinthe will be a good machine.
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Especially if we get a few more processors and upgrade the processors.
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A few more processors? How many are you shooting for?
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There're five now. It can hold eight.
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Oh, O_K.
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Yeah, we'll just go buy <Pronounce Pronunciation=""em""> them, </Pronounce> <Uncertain> I guess </Uncertain>.
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And it's also five-fifty megahertz and you can get a <Pronounce Pronunciation=""gigahert""> gigahertz. </Pronounce>
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Yeah.
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So. <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
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Can you mix <Pause/> t- uh, processors of different
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I <Emphasis> don't </Emphasis> think so. I think we'd have to do all -
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speed?
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O_K.
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Probably just throw away the old ones, and -
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Yep.
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Thank you <Pause/> for the box, and -
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Oh, O_K.
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/> I'll just go buy their process. <Comment Description="quietly, while laughing"/>
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Hmm!
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Maybe we can stick them in another system. I dunno. <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
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We'd have to get a -
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almost certainly have to get a, uh, Netfinity server.
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I see.
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They're
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pretty -
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pretty specialized.
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Yeah.
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O_K.
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O_K.
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Is - is Liz coming back, do you know, or - ? <Comment Description="leading question"/>
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I don't know.
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I dunno.
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Yeah. Oh, you don't. O_K.
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Uh, I - I will.
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Alright.
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I - I actually have to run this stuff.
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Alright.
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<NonVocalSound Description="thump"/> O_K.
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See you.
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<Segment StartTime="2955.955" EndTime="2956.351" Participant="me013">
Um.
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<VocalSound Description="mouth"/> Alright. So -
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Uh, they're having tea out there. So I guess the other thing that we were gonna talk about is - is, uh, demo.
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And, um, so, these are the demos for the <Pause/> uh, July,
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uh, meeting <Pause/> and,
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um -
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July what?
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DARPA mee-
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Early July? Late July?
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Oh, I think it's July fifteenth. Is that it? <Comment Description="quietly"/>
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Sixteen to eighteen, I think.
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Yeah, sixteenth, eighteenth.
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Roughly.
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Yeah. So, we talked about getting something together for that, but maybe, uh -
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maybe we'll just put that off for now, given that -
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But I think maybe we should have a -
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a sub-meeting,
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I think,
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uh,
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probably, uh,
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Adam and -
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and, uh, Chuck and me
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should talk about -
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should get together and talk about that sometime soon.
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Over a cappuccino tomorrow?
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Yeah <Comment Description="while laughing"/> something like that. Um,
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uh, you know, maybe -
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maybe we'll involve Dan Ellis at some -
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Mm-hmm.
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some level as well.
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Um.
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O_K. The -
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the tea is - is going, so, uh, I suggest we do, uh -
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uh, a unison.
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A unison digits? <Comment Description="while laughing"/>
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<Pronounce Pronunciation=""kay""> O_K. </Pronounce>
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Yeah.
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Which is gonna be a little hard for a couple people because we have different digits forms.
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Gets <Uncertain> our </Uncertain> -
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We have a -
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I found a couple of old ones. <Comment Description="last word while laughing"/>
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Hmm.
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Oh.
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Well,
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that'll be interesting. So, uh -
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Have you done digits before?
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No.
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I haven't done it.
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O_K. So, uh,
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the idea is just to read each line <Pause/> with a short pause
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Alright.
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between lines, not between -
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And, uh, since we're in a hurry, we were just gonna read everyone all at once. So, if you sorta plug your ears and read -
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O_K.
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So first read the transcript number,
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and then start reading the <Pause/> digits. <Comment Description="creaky voice"/>
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Sure.
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O_K?
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One, two, three.
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Six nine eight, four two, two nine zero zero. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
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Nine. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
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nine <Comment Description="Digits"/>
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O_. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
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two O_ four six. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
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Four four eight, six seven one, four five six. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
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Eight zero, three two, three seven, seven six, zero one. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
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Zero. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
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Two two five eight. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
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Three one. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
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Four four six nine. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
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Five. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
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<NonVocalSound Description="clunk or thump"/>
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Six. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
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<NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
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<NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
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<Pronounce Pronunciation=""nn-kay""> O_K </Pronounce> we're done. <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
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<NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
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<NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
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And -
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