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| <Segment StartTime="11.100" EndTime="12.758" Participant="me011"> |
| O_K we're on and we seem to be working. |
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| O_K. |
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| <Segment StartTime="11.641" EndTime="12.309" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yes. |
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| <Segment StartTime="12.612" EndTime="13.429" Participant="me013"> |
| O_K. |
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| <Segment StartTime="12.758" EndTime="15.774" Participant="me011"> |
| We didn't crash - we're not <Emphasis> crashing </Emphasis> anymore and it really <Emphasis> bothers </Emphasis> me. |
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| One, two, three, four, f- <Comment Description="testing mike"/> |
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| <VocalSound Description="loud exhale"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="15.613" EndTime="16.301" Participant="me018"> |
| <Emphasis> I </Emphasis> do. |
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| <Segment StartTime="15.643" EndTime="16.267" Participant="me013"> |
| Yeah? |
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| <Segment StartTime="15.652" EndTime="16.855" Participant="mn005"> |
| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> No crashing. |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="16.620" EndTime="18.154" Participant="me018"> |
| <Emphasis> I </Emphasis> <Pronounce Pronunciation=""crash""> crashed </Pronounce> when I started this morning. |
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| <Segment StartTime="17.436" EndTime="19.740" Participant="me011"> |
| You <Pronounce Pronunciation=""croshed""> crashed </Pronounce> - crashed this morning? I did <Emphasis> not </Emphasis> crash this morning. |
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| <Segment StartTime="18.074" EndTime="18.375" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah? |
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| <Segment StartTime="19.290" EndTime="21.837" Participant="me013"> |
| Oh! Well maybe it's just, you know, how many t- u- u- u- u- |
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| <Segment StartTime="19.669" EndTime="20.105" Participant="me018"> |
| <Emphasis> Really? </Emphasis> |
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| <Segment StartTime="21.837" EndTime="23.220" Participant="me013"> |
| how many times you crash in a <Emphasis> day. </Emphasis> |
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| <Segment StartTime="22.994" EndTime="24.229" Participant="me018"> |
| Yeah. <Comment Description="whispered"/> <VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="23.158" EndTime="25.596" Participant="me011"> |
| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="23.370" EndTime="25.059" Participant="mn005"> |
| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="23.386" EndTime="24.195" Participant="me001"> |
| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="24.488" EndTime="25.006" Participant="me018"> |
| Maybe, yeah. |
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| <Segment StartTime="25.291" EndTime="26.358" Participant="me013"> |
| First time - first time |
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| <Segment StartTime="26.358" EndTime="27.462" Participant="me013"> |
| in the <Emphasis> day, </Emphasis> you know. |
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| <Segment StartTime="27.290" EndTime="28.480" Participant="me018"> |
| Or maybe it's once you've <Pause/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="28.480" EndTime="30.465" Participant="me018"> |
| done enough meetings <Comment Description="rising"/> it won't crash on you anymore. <Comment Description="rising"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="29.984" EndTime="30.346" Participant="mn014"> |
| Yeah. |
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| <Segment StartTime="30.193" EndTime="31.175" Participant="me001"> |
| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> Hmm. <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="30.752" EndTime="31.070" Participant="mn005"> |
| No? |
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| <Segment StartTime="30.777" EndTime="31.448" Participant="fe008"> |
| Yeah. <Comment Description="while laughing"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="30.983" EndTime="32.318" Participant="me018"> |
| It's a matter of experience. <Comment Description="rising"/> |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="32.361" EndTime="32.706" Participant="mn014"> |
| Yeah. |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="33.112" EndTime="33.656" Participant="me013"> |
| <Emphasis> Yeah. </Emphasis> |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="34.013" EndTime="35.350" Participant="fe008"> |
| Self-learning, yeah. |
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| <Segment StartTime="34.607" EndTime="35.683" Participant="me013"> |
| That's - that's great. |
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| <Segment StartTime="34.987" EndTime="35.466" Participant="me018"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="35.350" EndTime="36.525" Participant="fe008"> |
| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="35.406" EndTime="36.021" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="36.022" EndTime="36.863" Participant="me013"> |
| Uh. <Uncertain NumSyllables="2"> @@ </Uncertain> <Comment Description="uncodeable vocal fragments"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="36.863" EndTime="39.030" Participant="me013"> |
| Do we have an agenda? Liz - Liz and Andreas can't sh- |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="37.973" EndTime="38.461" Participant="me011"> |
| I do. |
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| <Segment StartTime="39.030" EndTime="41.380" Participant="me013"> |
| can't - uh, can't come. So, they won't be here. |
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| <Segment StartTime="40.316" EndTime="43.440" Participant="me011"> |
| I have agenda and it's all <Emphasis> me. </Emphasis> Cuz no one sent me anything else. |
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| <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="40.921" EndTime="41.240" Participant="me018"> |
| Did - |
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| <Segment StartTime="43.350" EndTime="44.089" Participant="me018"> |
| Did they send, |
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| <Segment StartTime="44.324" EndTime="46.396" Participant="me018"> |
| uh, the messages to <Emphasis> you </Emphasis> about the meeting today? |
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| <Segment StartTime="46.157" EndTime="48.183" Participant="me011"> |
| I have no idea but I just got it a few minutes ago. |
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| <Segment StartTime="46.875" EndTime="47.114" Participant="me018"> |
| Oh. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="48.329" EndTime="48.907" Participant="me018"> |
| Oh. |
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| <Segment StartTime="48.398" EndTime="49.960" Participant="me011"> |
| Right when you were in my office it arrived. |
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| <Segment StartTime="50.250" EndTime="51.796" Participant="me018"> |
| O_K, cuz I checked my mail. I didn't have anything. <Comment Description="faster tempo, then trails off on "anything""/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="52.571" EndTime="53.088" Participant="me011"> |
| So, |
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| <Segment StartTime="53.564" EndTime="58.286" Participant="me011"> |
| does anyone have any a- agenda items other than me? I actually have one more also which is to talk about the digits. |
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| <Segment StartTime="58.602" EndTime="63.583" Participant="me013"> |
| Uh, right, so - so I - I was just gonna talk briefly about the N_S_F I_T_R. |
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| <Segment StartTime="59.146" EndTime="60.143" Participant="mn005"> |
| Mm-hmm. Yeah. |
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| <Segment StartTime="63.912" EndTime="64.450" Participant="me011"> |
| Oh, great. |
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| <Segment StartTime="64.570" EndTime="65.396" Participant="me013"> |
| Uh, |
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| <Segment StartTime="65.994" EndTime="67.030" Participant="me013"> |
| and then, you have - |
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| <Segment StartTime="66.088" EndTime="66.487" Participant="fe008"> |
| Can w- |
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| <Segment StartTime="67.030" EndTime="68.103" Participant="me013"> |
| I mean, I won't say much, but - <Comment Description="embedded"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="68.103" EndTime="70.596" Participant="me013"> |
| uh, but then, uh, you said - wanna talk about digits? |
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| <Segment StartTime="70.641" EndTime="77.573" Participant="me011"> |
| I have a short thing about digits and then uh I wanna talk a little bit about naming conventions, although it's unclear whether this is the right place to talk about it. |
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| <VocalSound Description="sniff"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="78.350" EndTime="83.273" Participant="me011"> |
| So maybe just talk about it very briefly and take the details to the people who - for whom it's relevant. |
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| <Segment StartTime="83.387" EndTime="83.746" Participant="me013"> |
| Right. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="83.879" EndTime="84.577" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah. |
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| <Segment StartTime="84.923" EndTime="89.090" Participant="fe008"> |
| I could <Emphasis> always </Emphasis> say something about transcription. <Comment Description="while laughing"/> I've been - <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> but - but - uh, well - |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="87.323" EndTime="87.681" Participant="mn005"> |
| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="87.580" EndTime="88.571" Participant="me013"> |
| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="88.571" EndTime="89.846" Participant="me013"> |
| Well if we - Yeah, we shouldn't |
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| <Segment StartTime="90.085" EndTime="93.460" Participant="me013"> |
| add things in just to add things in. <Pronounce Pronunciation=""I""> I'm </Pronounce> actually pretty busy today, so if we can - <Comment Description="while laughing"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="91.859" EndTime="92.278" Participant="fe008"> |
| Yeah. |
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| <Segment StartTime="92.569" EndTime="92.987" Participant="mn005"> |
| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="93.388" EndTime="93.622" Participant="mn005"> |
| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="93.453" EndTime="94.131" Participant="fe008"> |
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. <Comment Description="last "yeah" is very quiet"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="93.460" EndTime="95.066" Participant="me013"> |
| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> we - a short meeting would be fine. |
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| <Segment StartTime="93.742" EndTime="94.249" Participant="me011"> |
| <VocalSound Description="laugh, "hmmph""/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="94.131" EndTime="96.541" Participant="fe008"> |
| This does sound like we're doing fine, yeah. |
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| <Segment StartTime="96.541" EndTime="97.224" Participant="fe008"> |
| That won't do. <Comment Description="whispered"/> <Comment Description="regarding microphone adjustment"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="96.950" EndTime="101.646" Participant="me011"> |
| So the only thing I wanna say about digits is, we are <Emphasis> pretty </Emphasis> much done with the first test set. |
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| <NonVocalSound Description="microphone pops"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="101.646" EndTime="103.943" Participant="me011"> |
| There are probably forms here and there |
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| <Segment StartTime="104.202" EndTime="106.932" Participant="me011"> |
| that are marked as having been read that weren't really read. |
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| <NonVocalSound Description="microphone pops"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="106.932" EndTime="112.243" Participant="me011"> |
| So I won't really know until I go through all the transcriber forms and extract out pieces that are in error. |
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| <NonVocalSound Description="microphone pops"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="112.688" EndTime="114.933" Participant="me011"> |
| So I wa- Uh. <Emphasis> Two </Emphasis> things. The first is |
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| <Segment StartTime="115.132" EndTime="117.403" Participant="me011"> |
| what should we do about digits that were misread? |
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| <NonVocalSound Description="microphone pop"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="118.141" EndTime="119.764" Participant="me011"> |
| <Emphasis> My </Emphasis> opinion is, |
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| <NonVocalSound Description="microphone pop"/> |
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| <NonVocalSound Description="microphone pop"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="120.321" EndTime="122.534" Participant="me011"> |
| um, we should just throw them out <Emphasis> completely, </Emphasis> |
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| <NonVocalSound Description="microphone pops"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="122.972" EndTime="125.043" Participant="me011"> |
| and have them read again by someone else. |
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| <Segment StartTime="125.362" EndTime="130.166" Participant="me011"> |
| You know, the grouping is completely random, so it - it's perfectly fine to put a - a group together again |
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| <Segment StartTime="125.456" EndTime="125.904" Participant="mn005"> |
| Uh-huh. |
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| <NonVocalSound Description="microphone pops"/> |
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| of errors and have them re-read, |
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| <NonVocalSound Description="microphone pops"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="132.079" EndTime="133.514" Participant="me011"> |
| just to finish out the test set. |
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| <Segment StartTime="134.282" EndTime="136.294" Participant="fe008"> |
| Oh! By - throw them out <Emphasis> completely? </Emphasis> |
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| <Segment StartTime="135.240" EndTime="137.047" Participant="me011"> |
| Um, the <Emphasis> other </Emphasis> thing you could do is |
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| <Segment StartTime="137.306" EndTime="140.275" Participant="me011"> |
| change the <Emphasis> transcript </Emphasis> to match what they really said. |
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| <NonVocalSound Description="microphone pop"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="141.274" EndTime="141.732" Participant="fe008"> |
| Mm-hmm. <Comment Description="whispered"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="141.331" EndTime="143.144" Participant="me011"> |
| So those are - those are the two options. |
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| <Segment StartTime="141.578" EndTime="141.845" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah. |
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| <Segment StartTime="142.534" EndTime="146.470" Participant="me013"> |
| But there's often things where people do false starts. I know <Emphasis> I've </Emphasis> done it, where I say - |
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| <Segment StartTime="146.470" EndTime="147.247" Participant="me013"> |
| say a - |
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| <Segment StartTime="146.613" EndTime="149.692" Participant="me011"> |
| What the transcribers did with that is if they did a correction, |
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| <NonVocalSound Description="microphone pop"/> |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| <NonVocalSound Description="microphone pop"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="149.692" EndTime="151.863" Participant="me011"> |
| and they eventually did read the right string, <Comment Description="rising"/> |
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| <NonVocalSound Description="microphone pop"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="152.242" EndTime="153.616" Participant="me011"> |
| you extract the right string. |
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| <Segment StartTime="152.935" EndTime="155.677" Participant="me018"> |
| Oh, you're talking about where they <Emphasis> completely </Emphasis> read the wrong string and didn't correct it? |
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| <Segment StartTime="154.030" EndTime="154.444" Participant="mn014"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="154.607" EndTime="154.945" Participant="me011"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="155.344" EndTime="156.241" Participant="me011"> |
| And didn't notice. |
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| <Segment StartTime="156.095" EndTime="156.614" Participant="me018"> |
| Ah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="156.166" EndTime="156.476" Participant="mn014"> |
| Yeah. |
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| <Segment StartTime="156.599" EndTime="158.113" Participant="me011"> |
| Which happens in a few places. |
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| <Segment StartTime="156.908" EndTime="157.243" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="159.246" EndTime="162.720" Participant="fe008"> |
| Well, and s- and you're talking <Emphasis> string-wise, </Emphasis> you're not talking about the entire page? |
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| <Segment StartTime="159.408" EndTime="160.236" Participant="me011"> |
| So - so - |
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| <Segment StartTime="161.868" EndTime="162.247" Participant="mn014"> |
| Yeah. |
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| <Segment StartTime="162.229" EndTime="162.893" Participant="me011"> |
| Correct. |
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| <Uncertain> I get it </Uncertain>. <Comment Description="extremely quietly"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="164.690" EndTime="169.330" Participant="me011"> |
| And so the - the two options are change the transcript to match what they really said, but then - |
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| <Segment StartTime="170.087" EndTime="173.116" Participant="me011"> |
| but then the transcript isn't the Aurora <Emphasis> test </Emphasis> set anymore. |
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| <Segment StartTime="173.474" EndTime="176.144" Participant="me011"> |
| I don't think that really <Emphasis> matters </Emphasis> because the conditions are so different. |
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| <Segment StartTime="177.439" EndTime="178.747" Participant="me011"> |
| And that would be a little <Emphasis> easier. </Emphasis> |
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| <Segment StartTime="178.485" EndTime="180.513" Participant="me018"> |
| Well how many are - how - how often does that happen? |
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| <Segment StartTime="180.580" EndTime="182.023" Participant="me011"> |
| Mmm, five or six times. <Comment Description="rising"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="182.182" EndTime="183.704" Participant="me018"> |
| Oh, so it's not very much. |
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| <Segment StartTime="183.330" EndTime="184.515" Participant="me011"> |
| No, it's not much at all. |
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| Seems like we should just change the <Emphasis> transcripts </Emphasis> |
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| Yeah. |
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| O_K. |
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| to <Emphasis> match. </Emphasis> |
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| Yeah, it's five or six times out of <Pause/> thousands? |
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| Yeah. |
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| Four thousand. |
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| Four thous- Ah! Four thousand. |
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| Four thousand? |
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| Yeah, it's - |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/> |
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| Yeah, I would, uh, <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> tak- do the easy way, <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> yeah. |
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| Yeah. |
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| O_K. |
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| Yeah. |
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| It - it's kinda nice - I mean, wh- who knows what |
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| Mmm. |
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| studies people will be doing on - on speaker-dependent things and so I think having - |
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| Yeah. |
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| having it all - |
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| <NonVocalSound Description="microphone pop"/> |
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| the speakers who |
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| we had is - is |
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| at least interesting. |
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| So you - um, |
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| how many digits have been |
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| transcribed now? |
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| Four thousand lines. And each line |
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| Four thousand lines? |
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| is between one and about ten digits. I didn't - |
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| Hmm. |
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| I didn't compute the average. I think the average was around four or five. |
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| So that's a couple hours of - |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="221.356" EndTime="221.794" Participant="me018"> |
| Wow. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="222.529" EndTime="222.828" Participant="me011"> |
| Yep. |
| </Segment> |
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| of, uh, speech, probably. |
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| Yep. |
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| Which is a yeah reasonable - reasonable test set. |
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| Mm-hmm. |
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| Mm-hmm. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="229.372" EndTime="234.284" Participant="me011"> |
| And, Jane, I <Emphasis> do </Emphasis> have a set of forms which <Emphasis> I </Emphasis> think you have <Emphasis> copies </Emphasis> of somewhere. |
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| Mm-hmm. Yeah, true. |
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| Oh you do? |
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| Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. |
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| Oh O_K, good, good. |
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| Yeah, I was just wond- |
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| I thought I had - |
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| had all of them back from you. |
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| <Segment StartTime="239.351" EndTime="240.008" Participant="fe008"> |
| No, not yet. |
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| <Segment StartTime="239.738" EndTime="241.153" Participant="me011"> |
| And then the other thing is that, |
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| uh, the forms in front of us here that we're gonna read later, |
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| were suggested by Liz because she wanted to elicit some different prosodics from digits. |
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| Mm-hmm. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="249.122" EndTime="250.856" Participant="me011"> |
| And so, uh, I just wanted people to, |
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| Eight eight two two two nine. <Comment Description="quietly"/> |
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| take a quick look at the instructions and the way it wa- worked and see if it makes sense and if anyone has any comments on it. |
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| <Emphasis> I </Emphasis> see. |
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| And the decision here, |
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| uh, |
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| was to continue with uh the words rather than the - the numerics. |
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| <NonVocalSound Description="microphone pops"/> |
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| Uh, yes, |
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| although we could switch it <Emphasis> back. </Emphasis> The problem was O_ and zero. |
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| <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> Oh - |
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| Although we could switch it back and tell them always to say "zero" or always to say "O_". |
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| <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> <Comment Description="as if to speak"/> |
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| Or <Emphasis> neither. </Emphasis> |
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| Yeah. |
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| But it's just two thing - ways that you can <Emphasis> say </Emphasis> it. |
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| Mm-hmm. |
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| Right? |
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| <Emphasis> Oh. </Emphasis> <Comment Description="lengthened"/> |
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| Sure. |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> Yeah. |
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| Um - |
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| um, that's the only thought I have because if you t- start talking about these, you know u- tr- |
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| She's trying to get at natural groupings, |
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| Right. |
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| but it - there's - there's nothing natural about reading |
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| numbers this way. |
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| I mean if you saw a telephone number you would never see it this way. |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/> |
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| The - the problem <Emphasis> also </Emphasis> is she <Emphasis> did </Emphasis> want to stick with digits. I mean I'm speaking <Emphasis> for </Emphasis> her since she's not here. |
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| Yeah. |
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| But, um, the other problem we were <Emphasis> thinking </Emphasis> about is if you just put the numerals, <Comment Description="rising"/> |
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| Yeah. |
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| Mmm. |
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| they might say forty-three instead of four three. |
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| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
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| Yeah. |
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| Yeah. |
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| Well, if there's <Emphasis> space, </Emphasis> though, <Emphasis> between </Emphasis> them. I mean, you can - |
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| With - when you <Emphasis> space </Emphasis> them <Emphasis> out </Emphasis> they don't look like, uh, |
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| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
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| forty-three anymore. |
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| Well, she and I were talking about it, and she felt that |
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| <VocalSound Description="sigh"/> |
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| Yeah. |
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| it's very, very natural to do that sort of |
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| <Emphasis> She's </Emphasis> right. It's - it - it's a different problem. |
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| chunking. |
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| I mean it's a - it's a - it's an interesting problem - I mean, |
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| we've <Emphasis> done </Emphasis> stuff with numbers before, and yeah sometimes people - If you say |
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| s- "three nine eight one" sometimes people <Emphasis> will </Emphasis> say "thirty-nine eighty-one" or "three hundred - |
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| three hundred eighty-nine one", or - <Emphasis> I </Emphasis> don't think they'd say <Emphasis> that, </Emphasis> but - |
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| Yeah. |
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| Not very frequently but, <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> they certainly could. |
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| <Uncertain> but th- no - </Uncertain> |
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| But - |
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| Yeah. |
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| Uh, th- thirty-eight ninety-one is probably how they'd |
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| do it. |
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| So. I mean, this <Emphasis> is </Emphasis> something that Liz and I spoke about and, since |
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| But - |
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| I see. |
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| this was something that Liz asked for <Emphasis> specifically, </Emphasis> |
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| Mm-hmm. |
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| <Segment StartTime="361.606" EndTime="363.233" Participant="me011"> |
| I <Pronounce Pronunciation=""ink""> think </Pronounce> we need to defer to her. |
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| Yeah. |
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| O_K. Well, we're probably gonna be collecting meetings for a while and if we decide we still wanna do some digits later we might be able to do some different ver- different versions, but this is the next suggestion, so. |
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| Do something different, yeah. |
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| O_K. |
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| O_K, so uh e- l- I guess, let me, uh, |
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| get my - my short thing out about |
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| the N_S_F. |
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| I sent this - |
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| actually this is maybe a little side thing. Um, I - |
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| I sent |
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| to |
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| what I <Emphasis> thought </Emphasis> |
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| we had, uh, in some previous mail, as the right |
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| joint thing to send to, which was "M_ - M_T_G |
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| It was. |
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| R_C_D_R hyphen <Emphasis> joint </Emphasis>". |
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| Joint. |
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| Yep. |
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| But then I got some sort of funny mail saying that the moderator was going to - |
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| It's - |
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| Hmm. |
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| That's because they set the one up at U_W - that's not on our side, that's on the U_dub <Comment Description="short for U_W"/> side. |
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| Oh. |
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| And so U_- U_W set it up as a moderated list. |
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| Yeah. |
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| Oh, O_K. |
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| And, I have no idea whether it actually ever goes to anyone so you might just wanna mail to Mari |
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| No - no, th- I got - I got, uh, little excited notes from Mari and Jeff and so on, so it's - |
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| and - |
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| O_K, good. |
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| Yeah. |
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| So the moderator actually <Emphasis> did </Emphasis> <Emphasis> repost </Emphasis> it. |
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| Yeah. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| Cuz <Emphasis> I </Emphasis> had sent one earlier - Actually the <Emphasis> same </Emphasis> thing happened to me - I had sent one earlier. |
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| The message says, |
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| "You'll be informed" and then I was never informed but I got replies from people indicating that they <Emphasis> had </Emphasis> gotten it, so. |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/> |
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| Right. |
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| It's just to prevent spam. <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
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| <Emphasis> I </Emphasis> see. |
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| Yeah so O_ - O_K. Well, anyway, I guess - everybody here - Are y- are - |
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| you <Emphasis> are </Emphasis> on that list, right? So you got the note? Yeah? O_K. |
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| Mm-hmm. |
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| <NonVocalSound Description="microphone pops"/> |
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| Yeah. |
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| <NonVocalSound Description="microphone pops"/> |
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| Um, |
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| <NonVocalSound Description="microphone pops"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="446.618" EndTime="447.918" Participant="me013"> |
| so this was, uh, |
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| <VocalSound Description="cough"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="448.013" EndTime="450.396" Participant="me013"> |
| a, uh, proposal that we put in |
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| <NonVocalSound Description="microphone pop"/> |
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| <NonVocalSound Description="microphone pops"/> |
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| before on - on |
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| more - more higher level, |
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| uh, issues in meetings, |
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| from - I guess higher level from my point of view. <Comment Description="embedded"/> Uh, <VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/> |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| and, uh, meeting mappings, |
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| and, uh - |
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| <Segment StartTime="462.632" EndTime="472.048" Participant="me013"> |
| so is i- for - it was a <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> proposal for the I_T_R program, uh, <Pronounce Pronunciation=""in..formation""> Information </Pronounce> Technology Research program's part of National Science Foundation. <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> |
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| <NonVocalSound Description="microphone pops"/> |
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| It's the <Pause/> second year of their |
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| doing, |
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| uh, these grants. They're - they're - |
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| a lot of <Pronounce Pronunciation=""em""> them </Pronounce> are - |
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| <Emphasis> some </Emphasis> of them anyway, are larger - <Emphasis> larger </Emphasis> grants than the usual, small N_S_F grants, and. |
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| <VocalSound Description="clears throat"/> |
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| So, they're very competitive, and they have a |
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| first phase where you put in pre-proposals, and we - |
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| we, uh, |
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| got through that. |
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| And so th- the - |
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| the next phase will be - we'll actually be doing a larger proposal. |
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| And I'm - I - I hope to be doing very little of it. |
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| And - |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="499.850" EndTime="502.682" Participant="me013"> |
| uh, <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> which was also true for the pre-proposal, so. |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| Uh, there'll be bunch of people working on it. |
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| So. |
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| When's - when's the full proposal due? |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
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| Uh, I think April ninth, or something. |
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| p- s- <Comment Description="quietly"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="511.138" EndTime="511.991" Participant="me013"> |
| So it's about a month. |
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| Yep. |
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| <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> u- |
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| Um - |
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| And they said end of business day you could check on the reviewer forms, <Comment Description="rising"/> is that - |
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| Tomorrow. |
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| Tomorrow. |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| Tomorrow? Yeah. |
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| March second, I said. |
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| Tomorrow. |
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| I've been a day off all week. <Comment Description="humor, emphatic"/> |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| I guess that's a good thing cuz that way I got my papers done early. |
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| It would be interesting - |
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| <Segment StartTime="525.983" EndTime="527.896" Participant="me013"> |
| So that's <Emphasis> amazing </Emphasis> you showed up at this <Emphasis> meeting! </Emphasis> |
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| <Segment StartTime="527.782" EndTime="529.784" Participant="me011"> |
| It <Emphasis> is. </Emphasis> It <Emphasis> is </Emphasis> actually <Emphasis> quite </Emphasis> amazing. |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| Yeah. |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| It'll be <Emphasis> interesting </Emphasis> to see the reviewer's <Emphasis> comments. </Emphasis> |
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| Yeah. |
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| Yeah. |
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| My <Emphasis> favorite </Emphasis> is was when - when - when <Emphasis> one </Emphasis> reviewer says, uh, "you know, this should be far more detailed", and the nex- the next reviewer says, "you know, there's <Emphasis> way </Emphasis> too much detail". |
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| Yep. |
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| Or |
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| "this is way too general", and the other reviewer says, "this is way too specific". |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> Yeah. |
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| Yeah. |
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| Yeah. |
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| Yeah. |
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| "This is way too hard", "way too easy". |
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| <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> |
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| <Emphasis> We'll </Emphasis> see. Maybe there'll be something useful. And - and, uh - |
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| Well it <Emphasis> sounded </Emphasis> like |
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| they - |
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| they - |
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| the first gate was pretty easy. <Comment Description="rising"/> Is that right? |
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| That they didn't reject a <Emphasis> lot </Emphasis> of the pre-proposals? |
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| Do you know anything about the numbers? |
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| No. |
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| It's just from his message it sounded like that. |
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| Just - just th- |
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| Yeah. Yeah. |
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| <Uncertain> I </Uncertain> said something, yeah. |
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| Gary Strong's - |
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| there was a sentence at the end of one of his paragraphs I - |
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| I- |
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| Yeah. |
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| I should go back and look. I didn't - I don't think that's true. |
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| Yeah, O_K. |
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| Mmm. |
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| He said the next phase'll be very, |
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| <Emphasis> Very </Emphasis> - |
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| <Emphasis> competitive </Emphasis> because we didn't want to weed out |
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| <Emphasis> very, </Emphasis> yeah. |
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| Yeah. |
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| much in the first phase. |
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| Or something like that, so. |
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| Well we'll have to see what the numbers are. |
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| Mm-hmm. |
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| Hmm. |
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| Yeah. But they - |
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| they have to weed out enough so that they have enough |
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| reviewers. <VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/> |
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| Right. |
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| Yeah. |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| So, uh, you know, maybe they didn't r- weed out as much as usual, but it's - it's usually a pretty - |
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| But it - Yeah. It's - it's certainly not - |
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| I'm <Emphasis> sure </Emphasis> that it's not down to one in <Emphasis> two </Emphasis> or something |
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| Right. |
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| of what's left. I'm sure it's, |
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| How - how many awards are there, do you know? |
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| you know - |
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| Well there's different |
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| numbers of w- awards for different size - They have <Emphasis> three </Emphasis> size grants. |
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| <Emphasis> This </Emphasis> one there's, |
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| um - |
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| See the <Emphasis> small </Emphasis> ones are less than five hundred thousand total over three years and <Emphasis> that </Emphasis> they have a fair number of them. |
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| Um, |
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| and the large ones are, |
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| uh, |
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| boy, I forget, I think, |
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| more than, |
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| uh, |
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| more than a million and a half, more than two million or something like that. |
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| And - and we're in the middle - |
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| Mm-hmm. |
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| middle category. I think we're, |
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| uh, |
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| uh, I forget what it was. |
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| But, um - |
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| Uh, I don't remember, but it's <Pause/> pr- <Emphasis> probably </Emphasis> along the li- I - I could be wrong on this <Comment Description="embedded"/> |
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| yeah, but <Emphasis> probably </Emphasis> along the lines of fifteen or - that they'll fund, or twenty. |
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| I mean when they - Do you - do you know how many they funded when they f- in - in Chuck's, |
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| that he got |
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| <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> I don't - I don't know. |
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| last year? |
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| Yeah. |
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| I thought it was <Emphasis> smaller, </Emphasis> that it was like four or five, wasn't it? |
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| I - I'm - |
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| Well they fund - |
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| I don't remember. |
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| they - |
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| yeah. |
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| Uh it doesn't matter, we'll find out one way or another. |
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| I mean - |
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| Yeah. |
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| I mean last time I <Emphasis> think </Emphasis> they just had two categories, small and big, and this time they came up with a middle one, so it'll - |
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| Mm-hmm. |
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| there'll be more of them |
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| that they fund than - |
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| of the <Emphasis> big. </Emphasis> |
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| If we end up getting |
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| this, um, |
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| what will it mean to ICSI in terms of, |
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| w- wh- where will the money go to, what would we be doing with it? |
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| Uh. |
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| Exactly what we say in the proposal. |
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| I - I mean uh which part is ICSI though. I mean - |
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| You know, it - i- |
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| None of it will go for those yachts that we've talking about. |
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| Dang! <Comment Description="interjection"/> |
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| Um, |
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| well, |
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| no, I mean it's - u- |
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| It's just for the research - to continue the research on the Meeting Recorder stuff? |
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| It - |
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| It's <Emphasis> extending </Emphasis> the research, right? Because the other - |
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| Yeah. |
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| Yeah it's go- <Emphasis> higher </Emphasis> level |
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| stuff than we've been talking about for Meeting Recorder. |
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| Yeah. |
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| Yeah the other things that we have, uh, |
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| been working on |
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| with, |
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| uh, the c- |
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| with Communicator - |
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| uh, <Emphasis> especially </Emphasis> with the newer things - with the |
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| more acoustically-oriented things are - |
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| are - are - are lower level. |
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| And, |
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| this is dealing with, |
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| uh, mapping on the level of - of, um, |
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| the conversation - |
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| Mm-hmm. |
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| of mapping the conversations |
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| Right, right. |
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| to |
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| different kind of planes. |
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| So. |
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| Um. |
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| But, um. |
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| So it's all- it's all stuff that none- <Emphasis> none </Emphasis> of us are doing right now, |
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| or none of us are <Emphasis> funded </Emphasis> for, so it's - |
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| so it's - it would be new. |
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| So assuming everybody's completely busy now, |
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| it means we're gonna hafta, |
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| hire more students, or, |
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| something? |
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| Well there's evenings, and there's weekends, and - |
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| Uh. |
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| <Emphasis> Yeah, </Emphasis> there - there would be - there would be new hires, and - and there - there would be expansion, but, |
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| also, |
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| there's always - <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
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| for <Emphasis> everybody </Emphasis> there's - there's always things that are dropping off, grants that are ending, or other things that are ending, so, |
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| Right. |
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| Mm-hmm. |
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| <Pronounce> there's </Pronounce> - |
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| there's a <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> continual need to - |
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| Right. |
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| Yep. |
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| to bring in new things. But - |
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| I see. |
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| but there <Emphasis> definitely </Emphasis> would be new - |
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| new - |
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| new, uh, |
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| students, and so forth, both at - at U_W and here. |
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| Are there any students in your <Emphasis> class </Emphasis> who are <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
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| expressing interest? |
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| Um, not <Pause/> clear yet. |
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| Other than the one who's already here. |
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| Not clear yet. |
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| I mean we got <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> - we have - |
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| yeah, two of them are - two in the c- |
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| There're <Pause/> two in the class already here, and then - |
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| and - and, uh - |
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| uh, then there's a third who's doing a project here, |
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| Mm-hmm. |
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| who, uh - But he - he - he won't be in the country that long, and, |
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| maybe another will |
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| Yep. |
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| end up. |
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| <Emphasis> Actually </Emphasis> there <Emphasis> is </Emphasis> one other guy who's looking - that - that's that |
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| Hmm. |
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| guy, uh, |
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| Jeremy? <Comment Description="rising"/> I think. |
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| Mm-hmm. |
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| <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> Cool. <Comment Description="quietly"/> |
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| Anyway, yeah that's - that's all I was gonna say is that - |
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| that that's - you know, that's nice and we're sorta preceding to the next step, and, <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
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| it'll mean some more work, uh, you know, in - |
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| in March in getting the proposal out, and then, |
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| it's, uh, you know - |
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| We'll see what happens. |
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| Uh, the last one was - that you had there, <Comment Description="embedded"/> was about naming? |
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| Yep. |
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| It just, uh - we've been cutting up |
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| sound files, |
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| in - for ba- both digits and for, uh, doing recognition. |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
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| And Liz had some suggestions on naming and it just brought up |
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| the whole issue |
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| that |
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| hasn't really been resolved about naming. |
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| So, uh, |
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| one thing she would <Emphasis> like </Emphasis> to have is for all the names to be the same length |
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| so that <Emphasis> sorting </Emphasis> is easier. |
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| Yeah. |
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| Um, |
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| same number of characters so that when you're sorting filenames you can |
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| easily extract out bits and pieces that you want. And that's easy enough to do. |
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| And I <Pronounce Pronunciation=""on't""> don't </Pronounce> think we have so many meetings that that's a big deal just to change the names. |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
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| So that means, |
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| uh, instead of calling it |
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| "M_R one", "M_R two", you'd |
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| call it |
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| "M_R_M zero zero one", "M_R_M zero zero two", things like that. |
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| Just so that they're - they're all the same length. |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="868.052" EndTime="868.693" Participant="fe008"> |
| But, you know, |
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| when you, |
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| do things like that you can <Emphasis> always </Emphasis> - |
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| as long as you have - |
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| <Segment StartTime="872.931" EndTime="877.174" Participant="fe008"> |
| uh, you can always search from the beginning or the <Emphasis> end </Emphasis> of the string. You know, so "zero zero two" - |
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| The problem is that they're a <Emphasis> lot </Emphasis> of fields. |
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| Yeah. |
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| <Segment StartTime="878.805" EndTime="880.002" Participant="me011"> |
| Alright, so we - we have th- |
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| we're gonna have the speaker I_D, |
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| the session, |
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| uh - |
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| uh, |
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| Yeah, well, your example was really - <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/> |
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| information on the microphones, <Pronounce Pronunciation=""inferm..ation""> information </Pronounce> on the speak- on the channels and all that. |
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| i- |
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| Uh-huh. |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
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| O_K. |
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| And so if each one of those is a fixed length, |
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| the sorting becomes a lot easier. |
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| She wanted to keep <Pronounce Pronunciation=""em""> them </Pronounce> |
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| <Segment StartTime="894.918" EndTime="897.915" Participant="me001"> |
| <VocalSound Description="clears throat"/> the same lengths across different meetings also. <Comment Description="rising"/> So like, |
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| the N_S_A meeting lengths, <Comment Description="rising"/> all filenames are gonna be the same length as the Meeting Recorder meeting names? |
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| <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="901.005" EndTime="901.338" Participant="me011"> |
| Yep. |
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| And as I said, the- it's - we just don't have that many |
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| Cuz of digits. |
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| that that's a big deal. |
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| And so, uh, um, |
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| at some point we have to |
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| sort of |
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| take a few days off, |
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| <Segment StartTime="912.094" EndTime="916.799" Participant="me011"> |
| let the transcribers have a few days off, make sure no one's touching the data and reorganize the file structures. |
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| And when we do that we can also rationalize some of the naming. |
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| <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> I - I would <Emphasis> think </Emphasis> though that the transcribe - the <Pronounce> transcripts </Pronounce> themselves wouldn't need to have such lengthy names. |
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| So, I mean, you're dealing with a different domain there, and with start and end times and all that, and |
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| Right. |
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| channels and stuff, so, |
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| Right. So the only thing that would change with that is just the directory names, I would change them to match. So instead of being M_R one it would be M_R_M zero zero one. But I don't think that's a big deal. |
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| it's a different <Pause/> set. |
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| <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/> |
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| Fine. |
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| Fine. |
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| <Segment StartTime="940.254" EndTime="943.579" Participant="me011"> |
| So for - for m- the <Emphasis> meetings </Emphasis> we were thinking about three letters and three numbers |
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| for meeting I_Ds. |
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| Uh, for <Emphasis> speakers, </Emphasis> M_ or F_ and then three numbers, |
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| For, uh - and, uh, |
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| that also brings up the point that we have to start assembling a speaker <Emphasis> database </Emphasis> so that we get those links back and forth |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="956.830" EndTime="957.966" Participant="me011"> |
| and keep it consistent. |
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| Um, |
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| <Segment StartTime="961.214" EndTime="965.213" Participant="me011"> |
| and then, uh, the <Emphasis> microphone </Emphasis> issues. We want some way of specifying, |
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| more than looking in the "<Emphasis> key </Emphasis>" file, |
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| what channel and what mike. |
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| What channel, what mike, and |
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| what |
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| <Emphasis> broadcaster. </Emphasis> Or - I don't know how to s- <Emphasis> say </Emphasis> it. So I mean with <Emphasis> this </Emphasis> one it's |
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| this particular <Emphasis> headset </Emphasis> with this particular <Emphasis> transmitter </Emphasis> w- <Pause/> as a <Emphasis> wireless. </Emphasis> |
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| Yeah. |
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| Yep. |
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| And you know that one is a <Emphasis> different </Emphasis> headset and different channel. |
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| And so we just need some naming conventions on that. |
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| Yeah. |
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| And, uh, |
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| Uh-huh. |
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| <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/> |
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| <VocalSound Description="sudden expulsive outbreath"/> that's gonna <Pronounce Pronunciation=""beuhcome""> become </Pronounce> especially important once we start changing the microphone set-up. We have some new microphones that I'd like to start trying out, |
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| <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/> |
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| <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/> |
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| um, |
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| once I <Emphasis> test </Emphasis> them. |
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| <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/> |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
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| And then we'll - we'll need to specify that somewhere. So I was just gonna do a fixed list |
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| of, uh, microphones and types. |
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| Yeah. |
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| O_K. |
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| So, as I said - |
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| That sounds good. |
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| Yeah. |
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| Um, |
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| <Pause/> <VocalSound Description="clears throat"/> |
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| since we have such a short agenda list I guess I wi- I <Emphasis> will </Emphasis> ask how - how are the transcriptions going? <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> Yeah. |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| The - the news is that I've - I uh - |
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| <VocalSound Description="clears throat"/> |
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| s- So - in s- um - |
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| So I've <Emphasis> switched </Emphasis> to - |
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| Start my new sentence. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| I - I switched to doing the channel-by-<Emphasis> channel </Emphasis> transcriptions to provide, uh, |
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| the - uh, tighter <Emphasis> time </Emphasis> bins for - partly for use in Thilo's work and also it's of relevance to other people in the project. |
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| And, um, |
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| I discovered in the process |
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| a couple of - of interesting things, which, um, |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> one of them is that, um, |
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| it seems that there are time lags involved in doing this, <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/> uh, |
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| uh, |
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| using an interface that has so much more complexity to it. |
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| And I - and I wanted to maybe ask, uh, Chuck to help me with some of the questions of efficiency. Maybe - I was thinking maybe the best way to do this in the long run may be to give them |
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| single channel |
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| parts and then piece them together later. And I - I have a script, I can piece them together. I mean, so it's like, I - I know that |
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| I can take them apart and put them together and I'll end up with the representation which is where the real power of that interface is. |
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| And it may be that it's <Emphasis> faster </Emphasis> to transcribe a channel at a time with only one, |
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| Mm-hmm. |
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| uh, sound file and one, |
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| uh, set of - of, uh, |
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| Yeah. |
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| utterances to check through. |
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| I'm a little confused. I thought that - |
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| that |
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| one of the reason we thought we were so much faster than - |
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| than, |
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| uh, the - the other transcription, |
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| uh, thing was that - |
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| that we were using the mixed <Pause/> file. |
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| Oh, <Emphasis> yes. </Emphasis> O_K. <Emphasis> But, </Emphasis> |
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| um, with the <Emphasis> mixed, </Emphasis> |
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| when you have an <Emphasis> overlap, </Emphasis> |
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| you only have a - a choice of one |
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| start and end time for that entire overlap, |
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| which means that you're not tightly, |
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| uh, tuning the individual <Emphasis> parts </Emphasis> th- of that overlap by different <Emphasis> speakers. </Emphasis> So someone may have only |
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| Mm-hmm. |
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| Yeah. |
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| said two words in that entire big chunk of overlap. |
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| Yeah. |
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| And for purposes of - |
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| of, uh, things like - |
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| well, so things like training the |
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| Yeah. |
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| speech-nonspeech segmentation thing. Th- it's necessary to have it more tightly <Emphasis> tuned </Emphasis> than that. |
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| O_K. |
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| And w- and w- and, you know, is- a- |
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| It would be <Emphasis> wonderful </Emphasis> if, |
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| uh, it's possible <Emphasis> then </Emphasis> to use that algorithm to more tightly tie in all the channels <Emphasis> after </Emphasis> that |
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| but, um, you know, I've - |
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| th- the - So, |
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| I- I don't know exactly where <Emphasis> that's </Emphasis> going at this point. |
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| But m- I was experimenting <Emphasis> with </Emphasis> doing this by hand and |
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| I really <Emphasis> do </Emphasis> think that it's <Emphasis> wise </Emphasis> that we've <Emphasis> had </Emphasis> them start the way we have with, |
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| uh, m- y- working off the mixed signal, um, |
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| having the interface that |
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| doesn't require them to do the ti- |
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| uh, the time bins for every single channel at a t- uh, |
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| Mm-hmm. |
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| through the entire interaction. |
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| Um, I <Emphasis> did </Emphasis> discover a couple <Emphasis> other </Emphasis> things by <Emphasis> doing </Emphasis> this though, and <Emphasis> one </Emphasis> of them is that, um, |
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| um, once in a while a <Emphasis> backchannel </Emphasis> will be overlooked by the <Emphasis> transcriber. </Emphasis> As you might <Emphasis> expect, </Emphasis> because when it's |
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| Mm-hmm. |
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| Sure. |
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| a b- backchannel could well happen in a very densely populated overlap. |
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| And if we're gonna study types of <Emphasis> overlaps, </Emphasis> which is what I wanna do, an analysis of that, |
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| then that really does require listening <Comment Description="while laughing"/> to every single channel all the way through the entire <Comment Description="while laughing"/> |
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| length for all the different <Emphasis> speakers. </Emphasis> Now, for only <Emphasis> four </Emphasis> speakers, that's not gonna be too much time, but if it's <Emphasis> nine </Emphasis> speakers, then |
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| <Segment StartTime="1189.970" EndTime="1193.463" Participant="fe008"> |
| that i- that <Emphasis> is </Emphasis> more time. So it's li- you know, kind of wondering - And I think <Emphasis> again </Emphasis> it's like |
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| this - it's really valuable that Thilo's working on the speech-nonspeech <Emphasis> segmentation </Emphasis> because maybe, |
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| <Segment StartTime="1198.218" EndTime="1205.499" Participant="fe008"> |
| um, we can close in on that wi- <Emphasis> without </Emphasis> having to actually <Emphasis> go </Emphasis> to the time that it would take to listen to every single <Emphasis> channel </Emphasis> from start to finish through every single <Emphasis> meeting. </Emphasis> |
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| Yeah, but those backchannels will always be a problem I think. Uh especially if they're |
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| really short and they're not very loud and so |
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| it - it can - it - it will <Emphasis> always </Emphasis> happen that also the automatic s- detection system will <Emphasis> miss </Emphasis> some of them, so. |
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| O_K. |
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| <Segment StartTime="1220.050" EndTime="1222.215" Participant="fe008"> |
| Well so then - then, maybe the answer is to, |
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| uh, listen especially <Emphasis> densely </Emphasis> in places of overlap, just so that they're - they're not being |
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| Yeah. |
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| overlooked because of that, and count on accuracy during the sparser phases. Cuz there are large s- spaces of the - That's a good point. |
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| Yeah. |
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| There are large spaces where there's no overlap at all. Someone's giving a presentation, or |
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| Yeah. |
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| whatever. That's - that's a good - that's a good thought. |
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| And, um, let's see, there was one other thing I was gonna say. |
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| I - I think it's really interesting data to work with, I have to say, it's very enjoyable. |
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| I- really, not - not a problem spending time with these data. Really interesting. |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| And not just because I'm in there. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/> |
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| <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/> <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> |
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| No, it's real interesting. |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
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| Uh, |
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| well I think it's a short meeting. |
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| Is true. <Comment Description="while laughing"/> |
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| Uh, you're - you're - you're still in the midst of |
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| what you're <Emphasis> doing </Emphasis> <Uncertain> from what </Uncertain> you described last time, I assume, and - |
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| Huh. |
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| I haven't results, eh, yet but, eh, |
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| Yeah. |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
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| I - I'm continue working with the mixed signal |
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| now, <Comment Description="while laughing"/> |
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| after the - the last experience. |
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| Yeah. Yeah. |
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| And - |
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| and I'm tried to - |
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| to, uh, adjust the - |
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| to - |
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| to improve, |
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| eh, an harmonicity, |
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| eh, detector |
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| that, eh, |
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| Yeah. |
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| I - I implement. |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
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| But I have problem because, eh, |
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| I get, eh, |
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| eh, |
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| very much harmonics now. <Comment Description="while laughing"/> |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
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| Yeah. |
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| Um, |
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| harmonic - possi- <Emphasis> possible </Emphasis> harmonics, uh, |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
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| eh, and now I'm - I'm - |
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| I'm trying to - |
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| to find, |
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| eh, |
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| some kind of a, um - |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
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| of h- of help, |
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| eh, using the energy |
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| to - |
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| to distinguish between |
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| possible harmonics, and - |
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| and other fre- frequency peaks, that, eh, |
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| <Uncertain> corres- </Uncertain> not harmonics. |
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| And, |
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| eh, I have to - |
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| to talk with y- with <Emphasis> you, </Emphasis> with the group, |
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| eh, about the instantaneous frequency, |
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| because I have, eh, |
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| an algorithm, |
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| and, |
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| I get, |
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| mmm, |
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| eh, |
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| t- t- results - similar results, |
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| like, eh, the paper, eh, |
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| that I - I am following. |
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| But, eh, |
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| the - the rules, eh, |
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| that, eh, people <Pronounce Pronunciation=""use-ed""> used </Pronounce> in the paper |
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| to - |
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| to distinguish the harmonics, is - |
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| doesn't work |
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| well. |
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| Mm-hmm. |
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| And I - I - I - I not sure that i- |
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| eh, the - |
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| the way - o- to - ob- the way to obtain |
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| the - the instantaneous frequency is <Pause/> right, |
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| or it's - it's not right. Eh, |
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| Yeah. |
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| I haven't enough file- feeling to - |
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| to - |
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| to <Pronounce Pronunciation=""distingw""> distinguish </Pronounce> what happened. <Comment Description="while laughing"/> |
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| Yeah, I'd like to talk with you about it. If - if - if, uh - If I don't have enough time and y- |
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| you wanna discuss with someone else - some- someone else |
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| besides us that you might want to talk to, uh, might be Stephane. |
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| Yeah. |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
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| I talked with Stephane and - and Thilo and, |
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| Yeah and - and Thilo, yeah. |
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| Yeah, but - |
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| they - |
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| nnn they - |
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| they <Comment Description="while laughing"/> - |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| they <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> didn't - |
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| I'm not too experienced with <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> harmonics and - <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/> |
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| they think that <Comment Description="while laughing"/> the experience is not enough to - |
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| I see. <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| Is - is this the algorithm where you hypothesize a fundamental, and then |
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| No, no it's - No - |
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| get the energy for all the harmonics of that fundamental? |
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| No. |
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| And then hypothesize a <Emphasis> new </Emphasis> fundamental and get the energy - |
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| No. |
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| Yeah, that's wh- |
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| No. I - I - I - I don't proth- process the - the fundamental. I - |
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| I, ehm - |
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| I calculate the - the phase derivate |
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| <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/> |
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| Yeah. |
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| using the <Pronounce Pronunciation=""F_-eh-T_""> F_F_T. </Pronounce> |
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| And - |
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| The algorithm said that, eh, |
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| if you - if you change the - the - <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> |
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| the, eh, nnn - |
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| the X_- the frequency "X_", |
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| eh, using the in- the instantaneous frequency, |
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| you can find, eh, how, eh, in several frequencies |
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| that proba- probably the - the harmonics, eh, |
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| Uh-huh. |
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| the errors of peaks - the frequency peaks, eh, |
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| eh, move around <Pause/> these, eh - |
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| eh frequency harmonic - <Pause/> the frequency of the harmonic. |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> And, <VocalSound Description="breath"/> eh, if you - if you compare the - the instantaneous frequency, <VocalSound Description="breath"/> eh, |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> of the - of the, eh, continuous, eh, <VocalSound Description="breath"/> eh, filters, |
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| Mm-hmm. |
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| that, eh - that, eh, they <Pronounce Pronunciation=""use-d", delayed /d/"> used </Pronounce> eh, to - <VocalSound Description="breath"/> to - to get, eh, the - |
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| the instantaneous frequency, |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> it probably too, you can find, |
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| eh, that the instantaneous frequency |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
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| for the continuous, eh, |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
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| eh - the output of the continuous filters |
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| are very near. |
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| And in <Pause/> my case - i- in - <Uncertain> equal </Uncertain> with our signal, |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
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| it doesn't happened. <Comment Description="while laughing"/> |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
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| Yeah. I'd hafta look at that and think about it. It's - it's - |
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| And - |
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| it's - I haven't worked with that either so I'm not sure - |
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| The way - |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
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| the simple-minded way I suggested was what Chuck was just saying, is that you could make a - a sieve. |
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| Yeah. |
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| You know, y- you actually say that here is - |
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| Let's - |
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| let's hypothesize that it's this frequency or that frequency, and - |
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| and, uh, maybe you - maybe you could use some other |
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| Yeah. |
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| cute methods to, uh, |
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| short cut it by - by uh, making some guesses, but - |
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| but uh - |
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| uh - |
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| uh, |
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| I would, uh - |
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| I mean you could |
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| make some guesses from, uh - from the auto-correlation or something but - but then, |
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| given those guesses, try, um, |
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| uh, |
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| only looking at the energy at multiples |
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| of the - of that frequency, |
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| and - and see how much of the - |
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| take the one that's maximum. |
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| Call <Emphasis> that </Emphasis> the - <Comment Description="abandoned as understood"/> |
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| Yeah. <Comment Description="whispered"/> |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
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| Using the energy of the - of the multiple of the frequency. |
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| But - |
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| Of all the harmonics of that. Yeah. |
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| Yeah. |
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| Do you hafta do some kind of, uh, low-pass filter before you do that? |
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| I don't use. |
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| Or - |
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| But, |
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| <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> No. |
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| I - I know many people use, eh, low-pass filter |
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| to - to - to get, eh, the pitch. |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> To <Emphasis> get </Emphasis> the pitch, <Emphasis> yes. </Emphasis> |
| </Segment> |
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| <Uncertain> I don't use. </Uncertain> |
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| To <Emphasis> get </Emphasis> the pitch, <Emphasis> yeah. </Emphasis> |
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| To get the pitch, yes. |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
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| But the harmonic, no. |
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| But i- |
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| But the harmonics are gonna be, |
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| uh, |
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| uh, |
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| I don't know what the right word is. Um, |
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| they're gonna be dampened by the |
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| uh, |
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| vocal tract, right? |
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| The response of the vocal tract. |
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| Yeah? |
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| Yeah? |
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| And so - |
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| just looking at the <Emphasis> energy </Emphasis> on those - at the <Emphasis> harmonics, </Emphasis> |
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| is that gonna - ? <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/> |
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| Well so the thing is that |
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| the - |
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| This is for, uh, a, um - |
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| I m- what you'd <Emphasis> like </Emphasis> to do is get <Emphasis> rid </Emphasis> of the effect of the <Emphasis> vocal </Emphasis> tract. Right? |
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| Yeah. |
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| And just look at the - |
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| at - |
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| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1586.697" EndTime="1589.061" Participant="me018"> |
| at the signal coming out of the <Emphasis> glottis. </Emphasis> <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| Uh, |
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| well, |
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| yeah that'd be good. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| Yeah. |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
| </Segment> |
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| But, uh - but I - but - <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| but I don't know that you need to - |
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| Open wide! <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="1594.478" EndTime="1598.783" Participant="me013"> |
| but I don't need you - know if you need to get <Emphasis> rid </Emphasis> of it. I mean that'd - that'd be <Emphasis> nice </Emphasis> but I don't know if it's ess- if it's <Emphasis> essential. </Emphasis> |
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| Uh-huh. |
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| Um, I mean - |
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| <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/> |
| </Segment> |
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| cuz I <Emphasis> think </Emphasis> the main thing is |
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| that, |
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| uh, you're trying - wha- <Emphasis> what </Emphasis> are you doing this for? |
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| <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/> |
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| You're trying distinguish between the case where there is, uh - |
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| where - where there are more than - |
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| uh, where there's more than one speaker |
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| Sorry. <Comment Description="whispered"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="1616.355" EndTime="1618.276" Participant="me013"> |
| and the case where there's only <Emphasis> one </Emphasis> speaker. |
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| So if there's more than one speaker, |
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| um - |
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| <Segment StartTime="1623.970" EndTime="1625.337" Participant="me013"> |
| yeah I guess you could - I guess - |
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| yeah you're - so you're not distinguished between voiced and unvoiced, so - |
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| so, i- if you don't - |
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| Yeah. |
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| if you don't <Emphasis> care </Emphasis> about that - |
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| See, if you <Emphasis> also </Emphasis> wanna |
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| <VocalSound Description="vocal squeak"/> |
| </Segment> |
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| just determine - |
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| if you <Emphasis> also </Emphasis> wanna determine whether it's <Emphasis> unvoiced, </Emphasis> |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath-sniffle"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="1635.564" EndTime="1639.196" Participant="me013"> |
| then I think you want to <Pause/> look - look at high frequencies <Emphasis> also, </Emphasis> because |
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| <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1639.737" EndTime="1645.720" Participant="me013"> |
| the f- the fact that there's more energy in the high frequencies is gonna be an ob- sort of obvious cue that it's unvoiced. |
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| <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/> |
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| Yeah. |
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| But, i- i- uh - |
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| <VocalSound Description="vocal squeak"/> |
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| I mean i- i- |
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| <Segment StartTime="1648.309" EndTime="1648.747" Participant="me013"> |
| but, |
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| um, |
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| other than that I guess as far as the one <Pronounce> person </Pronounce> versus two persons, |
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| <VocalSound Description="long breath"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="1654.405" EndTime="1657.590" Participant="me013"> |
| it would be <Pause/> primarily a low frequency phenomenon. |
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| <Segment StartTime="1658.220" EndTime="1663.066" Participant="me013"> |
| And if you looked at the low frequencies, yes the higher frequencies are gonna - there's gonna be a spectral slope. |
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| <Segment StartTime="1663.510" EndTime="1665.493" Participant="me013"> |
| The higher frequencies will be lower energy. |
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| <Segment StartTime="1666.010" EndTime="1666.509" Participant="me013"> |
| But so what. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1668.949" EndTime="1669.294" Participant="me013"> |
| I mean - |
| </Segment> |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1670.612" EndTime="1671.721" Participant="me013"> |
| that's - that's w- |
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| <Segment StartTime="1671.051" EndTime="1673.085" Participant="mn005"> |
| I will prepare for the next week |
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| eh, all my results about the harmonicity and <Pause/> |
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| will - will try to come in |
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| and to discuss here, |
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| because, eh, |
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| I haven't enough feeling to - <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| to u- |
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| many time to - |
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| to understand |
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| what happened with the - with, eh, |
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| so many peaks, eh, |
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| eh, |
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| and <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> I - I see the harmonics there many time but, eh, |
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| there are a lot of peaks, |
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| eh, that, eh, they are <Emphasis> not </Emphasis> harmonics. |
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| Yeah. |
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| I have to discover what - what is the - the w- |
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| the best way to - |
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| Well, but - yeah I don't think you can - |
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| I mean you're not gonna be able to look at every frame, so I mean - <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| I - I mean I - I really - |
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| I- I really <Emphasis> thought </Emphasis> that the best way to do it, |
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| and I'm speaking with no experience on this particular point, <Comment Description="while laughing"/> <Comment Description="embedded"/> |
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| but, <VocalSound Description="breath"/> my <Emphasis> impression </Emphasis> was that the best way to do it was <Emphasis> however </Emphasis> you - |
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| You've used instantaneous frequency, <Emphasis> whatever. </Emphasis> <Comment Description="embedded"/> |
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| <Emphasis> However </Emphasis> you've come up - you - with your <Emphasis> candidates, </Emphasis> |
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| you wanna see how much of the energy |
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| is <Emphasis> in </Emphasis> that |
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| as <Pronounce> coppo- </Pronounce> as opposed to all of the - all - the <Emphasis> total </Emphasis> energy. |
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| And, um, if it's <Emphasis> voiced, </Emphasis> |
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| I guess - so - |
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| e- the |
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| fraction of the energy that's in the harmonic sequence |
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| that you're looking at is relatively <Emphasis> low, </Emphasis> |
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| Is height. |
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| then it should be - then it's more likely to be an overlap. |
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| This - this is the idea - the idea I - I - I had |
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| to - to compare the - the ratio of the - |
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| the energy of the harmonics with the - |
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| eh, with the, eh, total energy |
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| in the spectrum |
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| try to get a ratio to - to distinguish between overlapping and speech. |
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| Mmm. |
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| But you're looking a- y- you're looking at - |
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| Let's take a second with this. Uh, uh, |
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| you're looking at f- at the phase |
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| derivative, |
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| what domain? I mean this is - this is in - in - in - in <Emphasis> bands? </Emphasis> Or - or - |
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| just overall - |
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| i- w- the band - the band is, eh, from zero to - to four kilohertz. |
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| And I - I ot- I - |
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| And you just take the instantaneous frequency? |
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| to - to obtain the - or to <Emphasis> study </Emphasis> the harmonics |
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| from - from the spectrum directly, |
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| and to study the energy and the multiples of |
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| frequency. |
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| And another - another algorithm I have |
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| is the - in the <Pause/> instantaneous frequency, |
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| based on - on - |
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| on the F_F_T to - |
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| to - to calculate the - the phase derivate |
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| in the time. |
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| I mean I - I have two - two algorithms. |
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| Right. |
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| But, eh, in m- <Pause/> i- in my <Emphasis> opinion </Emphasis> the - the - the instantaneous frequency, |
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| the - the - the <Emphasis> behavior, </Emphasis> |
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| th- it was very interesting. |
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| Because I - I saw <VocalSound Description="breath"/> eh, <Emphasis> how </Emphasis> the spectrum <Pause/> concentrate, eh, |
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| Oh! <Comment Description="whispered"/> |
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| around the - the harmonic. <Pause/> |
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| when I apply the - the rule, |
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| eh, of the - in the - <Pause/> the instantaneous frequency of the ne- of the continuous filter in the - the near filter, |
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| the - the rule that, eh, people propose in the paper |
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| doesn't work. |
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| But the instantaneous frequency, wouldn't that give you something |
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| frequency of the - you know, of the - where most of the energy is? I mean, I think if you - |
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| Does i- does it - Why would it correspond to pitch? |
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| I - I - I not sure. |
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| and I represent |
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| all the frequency. |
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| using the |
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| instantaneous frequency, here. |
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| a scaling along that axis according to instantaneous - It's a kinda normalization. |
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| I - I use these - these frequency, |
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| eh, the range is different, and the resolution is different. |
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| instantaneous frequency, |
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| they use a Hanning window. |
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| which I'm not gonna have time to do in the next few days, <Comment Description="last 5 words spoken while laughing"/> but - |
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| but I'm - I'm curious about it. |
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| I- I did i- it did occur to me that this is - uh, the return to the transcription, that there's one third thing I wanted to - to ex- raise as a to- as an issue which is, um, |
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| how to handle breaths. So, I wanted to raise the question of |
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| whether people in speech recognition |
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| want to know where the breaths are. And the reason I ask the question is, |
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| um, aside from the fact that they're obviously very time-consuming to encode, |
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| uh, the fact that |
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| there was some - I had the indication from Dan Ellis in the email that I sent to you, and <Emphasis> you </Emphasis> know about, |
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| Yeah. |
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| that in <Emphasis> principle </Emphasis> we might be able to, um, handle breaths |
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| by accessi- by using cross-talk from the other things, be able that - in principle, maybe we could get <Emphasis> rid </Emphasis> of them, so maybe - <Comment Description="abandoned as understood"/> |
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| And I was - I - I don't know, I mean we had this an- and I didn't - couldn't get back to you, but the question of whether |
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| Yeah. |
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| it'd be possible to eliminate them from the audio signal, which would be the ideal situation, cuz - |
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| I don't know - think it'd be ideal. |
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| Uh-uh. <Comment Description="meaning "no""/> |
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| We- See, we're - we're dealing with real speech and we're trying to have it be as real as possible and breaths are part of real speech. |
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| Yeah. |
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| Well, except that these are |
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| really truly - I mean, ther- there's a segment in o- the one I did - n- the <Emphasis> first </Emphasis> one that I did for - |
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| Yeah. |
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| i- for this, where truly w- we're hearing <Emphasis> you </Emphasis> <Emphasis> breathing </Emphasis> like - as if we're - you're in our <Emphasis> ear, </Emphasis> you know, and it's like - it's like - |
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| Yeah. |
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| I- y- i- I mean, breath is natural, but not |
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| It is - |
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| Yeah. |
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| but it is if you record it. |
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| Except that we're - we're trying to mimic - |
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| Oh, I see what you're saying. You're saying that the P_D_A application would have - |
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| uh, have to cope with breath. |
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| Yeah. |
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| <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> But - |
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| Well |
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| An- any application may have to. |
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| No. |
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| The P_D_<Emphasis> A </Emphasis> might not have to, but |
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| No - i- |
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| Yeah. |
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| more people than just |
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| P_D_A users are interested in this corpus. |
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| O_K, then the - then - I have <Emphasis> two </Emphasis> questions. |
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| So - so mean you're right we <Emphasis> could </Emphasis> remove it, |
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| Yeah? |
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| but |
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| I - I think - |
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| we don't wanna w- remove it from the <Emphasis> corpus, </Emphasis> <Pause/> in terms of <Emphasis> delivering </Emphasis> it because the - people will want it in there. |
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| O_K, so maybe the question is <Emphasis> notating </Emphasis> it. Yeah? <Comment Description=""yeah?" to relinquish floor"/> |
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| Yeah. If it gets - |
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| Yeah - i- Right. If - if it gets in the way of what somebody is <Emphasis> doing </Emphasis> with it then you <Emphasis> might </Emphasis> wanna have |
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| some method which will |
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| allow you to <Emphasis> block </Emphasis> it, but you - it's real data. |
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| You don't wanna b- but you don't - |
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| O_K, well - |
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| If s- you know, if there's a little bit of noise out there, and somebody is - is talking about something they're doing, that's part of what we accept as part of a real meeting, |
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| even - And |
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| we have the f- uh - the uh - the - the fan and the - in the projector up there, |
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| and, uh, this is - |
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| it's - |
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| this is actual stuff that we - we wanna <Emphasis> work </Emphasis> with. |
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| Well this is in- very interesting because i- it basically has a |
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| So. |
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| i- it shows very clearly the contrast between, |
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| uh, speech recognition research and discourse research because in - in discourse and linguistic research, what counts is what's communit- communicative. |
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| Mm-hmm. |
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| And - breath, you know, everyone breathes, they breathe all the time. And once in a while breath is communicative, but |
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| r- very rarely. O_K, so now, I had a discussion with Chuck about the data structure and the idea is that |
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| Mm-hmm. |
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| the transcripts will - that - get stored as a master- there'll be a master transcript which has in it everything that's needed for <Emphasis> both </Emphasis> of these uses. |
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| Mm-hmm. |
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| And the one that's used for speech recognition will be processed via scripts. You know, like, Don's been writing scripts and - and, |
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| Mm-hmm. |
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| uh, to process it for the speech recognition side. Discourse side will <VocalSound Description="breath"/> have this - this side over he- the - we- we'll have a s- ch- |
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| <VocalSound Description="long breath"/> |
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| Sorry, not being very fluent here. <Comment Description="embedded"/> But, |
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| um, this - the discourse side will have a script which will stri- strip away the things which are non-communicative. |
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| O_K. So then the - then - let's - let's think about the practicalities of how we get to that master copy with reference to breaths. So |
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| what I would - |
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| r- r- |
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| what I would wonder is would it be possible to encode <Emphasis> those </Emphasis> <Emphasis> automatically? </Emphasis> Could we get a <Emphasis> breath </Emphasis> <Emphasis> detector? </Emphasis> |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| Oh, just to save the <Emphasis> transcribers </Emphasis> |
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| time. |
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| Well, I mean, you just have no idea. I mean, if you're getting a breath several times every minute, |
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| Mm-hmm. |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| and just simply the keystrokes it takes to negotiate, to put the boundaries in, to - to type it in, |
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| Mm-hmm. |
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| i- it's just a huge amount of time. And you wanna be sure it's used, and you wanna be sure it's done as efficiently as possible, and if it can be done automatically, that would be ideal. |
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| Oops. <Comment Description="interjection"/> |
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| Yeah. |
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| Wh- what - |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| what if you put it in but didn't put the boundaries? |
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| Well, but - |
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| So you just know it's between these other things, right? |
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| Well, O_K. So now there's - there's another - another possibility which is, um, the time boundaries could mark off words <Comment Description="rising"/> |
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| from nonwords. |
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| And that would be extremely time-effective, if that's sufficient. |
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| Yeah I mean I'm think- if it's too - if it's too hard for us to annotate the breaths per se, |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
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| we <Emphasis> are </Emphasis> gonna be building up <Emphasis> models </Emphasis> for these things and these things <Emphasis> are </Emphasis> somewhat self-<Emphasis> aligning, </Emphasis> so if - so, |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
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| we - i- i- if we say there is some kind of a <Emphasis> thing </Emphasis> which we call a "breath" or a "breath-in" or "breath-out", |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
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| the models will learn that sort of thing. |
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| Uh, so - but you - but you do want <Pronounce Pronunciation=""em""> them </Pronounce> |
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| to point <Pronounce Pronunciation=""em""> them </Pronounce> at |
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| some region |
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| where - where the breaths really <Emphasis> are. </Emphasis> |
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| O_K. But that would maybe include a pause as well, and that wouldn't be a problem to have it, uh, pause plus breath plus laugh plus |
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| So - |
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| Well, there's a- there's - |
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| Yeah, i- |
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| You know there is - |
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| there's this dynamic tension between - between marking absolutely everything, as you know, and - and - |
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| sneeze? |
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| and |
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| marking just a little bit and counting on the statistical methods. |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
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| Basically the <Emphasis> more </Emphasis> we can mark the <Emphasis> better. </Emphasis> |
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| But if there seems to be a <Emphasis> lot </Emphasis> of effort for a <Emphasis> small </Emphasis> amount of reward in some area, and this might be one like this - |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
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| Although I - I - I'd be interested to h- get - get input from Liz and Andreas on this to see if they - Cuz they've- they've got lots of experience with the breaths in - in, uh, |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> They have lots of experience with breathing? |
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| I - |
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| uh, their transcripts. <Emphasis> Actually </Emphasis> - |
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| Well, <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> yes they do, but we - |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
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| we can handle that without them here. But - but - |
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| but, uh, you were gonna say something about - |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/> |
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| Yeah, I - I think, um, one possible way that we could handle it is that, |
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| um, |
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| you know, as the transcribers are going through, and if they get a hunk of |
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| speech that they're gonna transcribe, |
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| u- th- they're gonna transcribe it because there's words in there or whatnot. If there's a breath in <Emphasis> there, </Emphasis> |
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| Yeah. |
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| they could transcribe <Emphasis> that. </Emphasis> |
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| That's what they've been doing. So, within an overlap segment, they - they do this. |
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| Yeah. |
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| Right. |
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| <Segment StartTime="2347.015" EndTime="2347.467" Participant="me018"> |
| But - |
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| Right. But if there's a big hunk of speech, let's say on Morgan's mike where <Emphasis> he's </Emphasis> not talking at <Emphasis> all, </Emphasis> |
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| Yeah. |
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| <Segment StartTime="2354.400" EndTime="2360.469" Participant="me018"> |
| um, don't - don't worry about that. So what we're saying is, there's no guarantee that, um - |
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| <Segment StartTime="2361.010" EndTime="2363.935" Participant="me018"> |
| So for the chunks that are transcribed, everything's transcribed. |
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| <Segment StartTime="2364.205" EndTime="2367.702" Participant="me018"> |
| But <Emphasis> outside </Emphasis> of those boundaries, there <Emphasis> could </Emphasis> have been stuff that wasn't transcribed. |
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| <Segment StartTime="2367.909" EndTime="2372.152" Participant="me018"> |
| So you just - somebody can't rely on that data and say "that's perfectly clean data". |
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| Uh - do you see what I'm saying? So I would say don't tell them to transcribe anything that's outside of |
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| Yeah, you're saying it's - uncharted territory. |
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| That sounds like a reasonable - |
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| a grouping of words. |
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| reasonable compromise. |
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| Yeah, and that's - that - that quite co- corresponds to the way I - I try to train the speech-nonspeech detector, as I really try to - |
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| <Emphasis> not </Emphasis> to detect those <Emphasis> breaths </Emphasis> which are not within a <Emphasis> speech </Emphasis> chunk but with - which are just in - in a <Emphasis> silence </Emphasis> region. |
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| Yeah. |
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| And they - so they <Emphasis> hopefully </Emphasis> won't be <Emphasis> marked </Emphasis> in - in those channel-specific files. |
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| Yeah, so - |
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| But - |
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| u- I - I wanted to comment a little more just for clarification about this business about the different purposes. |
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| Mm-hmm. |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
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| See, in a - in a way this is a really key <Emphasis> point, </Emphasis> |
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| that for speech recognition, uh, <Emphasis> research, </Emphasis> |
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| uh, |
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| um, |
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| e- a - it's <Emphasis> not </Emphasis> just a <Emphasis> minor </Emphasis> part. In fact, |
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| the - I think- I would say the <Emphasis> core </Emphasis> |
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| thing that we're trying to do |
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| is to recognize |
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| the actual, meaningful components |
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| in the midst |
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| of other things that are <Emphasis> not </Emphasis> meaningful. |
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| So it's <Emphasis> critical </Emphasis> - |
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| it's not just incidental it's <Emphasis> critical </Emphasis> |
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| for us to get these other |
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| components that are <Emphasis> not </Emphasis> |
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| meaningful. |
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| Because |
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| <Emphasis> that's </Emphasis> what we're trying to pull the other <Emphasis> out </Emphasis> <Uncertain> of </Uncertain>. That's our <Emphasis> problem. </Emphasis> |
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| <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> Yeah. |
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| If we had nothing - |
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| <NonVocalSound Description="mike noises"/> |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
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| if we had only linguistically-relevant things - if - if we only had changes in the spectrum that were associated with words, with different spectral components, |
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| <NonVocalSound Description="mike noises"/> |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
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| and, uh, we - we didn't have noise, we didn't have convolutional errors, we didn't have extraneous, uh, behaviors, and so forth, and <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
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| moving your head and all these sorts of things, |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
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| then, |
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| <Emphasis> actually </Emphasis> speech recognition |
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| i- i- isn't that <Emphasis> bad </Emphasis> |
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| right now. I mean you can <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> - you know it's - |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| Yeah. |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
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| it's - the technology's come <Emphasis> along </Emphasis> pretty well. The - the - the reason we still <Emphasis> complain </Emphasis> about it is because is - when - when you have |
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| more realistic <Emphasis> conditions </Emphasis> then - then things fall apart. |
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| O_K, fair enough. I guess, um, I - uh, what I was wondering is what - what - at what level |
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| does the breathing aspect enter into the problem? Because if it were likely that a P_D_A would be able to be built which would |
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| get rid of the breathing, so it wouldn't even have to be processed at thi- at this computational le- well, let me see, it'd have to be computationally processed to get <Emphasis> rid </Emphasis> of it, but if there were, |
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| uh, like- likely on the frontier, a good breath extractor <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| then, um, and then you'd have to - |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="2504.133" EndTime="2505.534" Participant="me013"> |
| But that's a <Emphasis> research </Emphasis> question, |
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| you know? |
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| And so - |
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| Yeah, well, see and that's what I wouldn't know. |
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| that - |
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| And we don't <Emphasis> either. </Emphasis> I mean so - so the thing is it's - it - |
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| right now it's just raw d- it's just data that we're collecting, and so |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="2513.317" EndTime="2516.262" Participant="me013"> |
| we don't wanna presuppose that people will be able to get rid of |
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| particular degradations because that's actually the <Emphasis> research </Emphasis> that we're trying to feed. |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> <Comment Description="while smiling"/> |
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| <Pronounce Pronunciation=""kay""> O_K. </Pronounce> |
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| So, you know, an- and maybe - maybe in five years it'll work really well, and - and it'll only mess-up <Emphasis> ten </Emphasis> percent of the time, but then we would <Emphasis> still </Emphasis> want to account for that ten percent, so. |
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| I guess there's another aspect which is that as we've improved our microphone technique, we have a lot less breath in the - in the more recent, uh, |
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| recordings, so it's - in a way it's an artifact that there's so much on the - on the earlier ones. |
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| Uh-huh. |
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| I see. |
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| One of the - um, just to add to this - one of the ways that we will be able to get rid of breath is by having |
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| models for them. I mean, that's what a lot of people do nowadays. And so in order to build the model you need to have <Emphasis> some </Emphasis> amount of it marked, |
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| Right. |
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| Right. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2549.074" EndTime="2549.367" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah. |
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| <Segment StartTime="2552.680" EndTime="2554.197" Participant="me018"> |
| so that you know where the boundaries are. |
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| Hmm. <Comment Description="very quietly to self"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="2554.380" EndTime="2554.734" Participant="me013"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2554.776" EndTime="2557.038" Participant="me018"> |
| So - I mean, I don't think we need to worry |
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| <Segment StartTime="2557.374" EndTime="2560.290" Participant="me018"> |
| a lot about breaths that are happening outside of a, |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2560.636" EndTime="2571.010" Participant="me018"> |
| you know, conversation. We don't have to go and search for them to - to mark them at all, but, I mean, if they're there while they're transcribing some hunk of words, I'd say put <Pronounce Pronunciation=""em""> them </Pronounce> in if possible. |
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| <Segment StartTime="2571.173" EndTime="2575.988" Participant="fe008"> |
| O_K, and it's <Emphasis> also </Emphasis> the fact that they differ a lot from one channel to the other because of the way the <Emphasis> microphone's </Emphasis> adjusted. |
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| Yeah. |
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| <Segment StartTime="2575.829" EndTime="2576.482" Participant="me018"> |
| Mm-hmm. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2579.948" EndTime="2580.442" Participant="fe008"> |
| O_K. |
| </Segment> |
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| Should we do the digits? <VocalSound Description="long exhale"/> |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> Yeah. <Comment Description="while laughing"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="2582.233" EndTime="2582.571" Participant="me011"> |
| Yep. |
| </Segment> |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
| </Segment> |
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| <VocalSound Description="deep inhale and exhale"/> |
| </Segment> |
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| O_K, this is Transcript L_ one seven three. <Comment Description="rising"/> <Comment Description="Digits"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2587.525" EndTime="2593.630" Participant="fe008"> |
| <NonVocalSound Description="mike noises"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2588.150" EndTime="2590.266" Participant="me001"> |
| <VocalSound Description="long breath"/> |
| </Segment> |
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| Four three, six eight, one three, six five, nine three. <Comment Description="Digits"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2595.199" EndTime="2597.780" Participant="mn014"> |
| <VocalSound Description="sniff"/> <NonVocalSound Description="mike noises"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2595.591" EndTime="2600.615" Participant="me011" DigitTask="true"> |
| Seven, three zero eight, five nine, one seven six, one. <Comment Description="Digits"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2601.412" EndTime="2605.494" Participant="me011" DigitTask="true"> |
| Five six O_, <Emphasis> one </Emphasis> O_, six three nine five. <Comment Description="Digits"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2602.213" EndTime="2604.460" Participant="mn014"> |
| <NonVocalSound Description="mike noises"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2606.091" EndTime="2609.627" Participant="me011" DigitTask="true"> |
| O_ three eight, five one zero, eight six eight. <Comment Description="Digits"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2610.882" EndTime="2615.348" Participant="me011" DigitTask="true"> |
| Six four six, five one, eight seven seven three, four. <Comment Description="Digits"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2615.482" EndTime="2618.885" Participant="me011" DigitTask="true"> |
| Eight two four <Emphasis> three </Emphasis> four, six four three, two. <Comment Description="Digits"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2619.460" EndTime="2622.977" Participant="me011" DigitTask="true"> |
| Zero two five, nine four, two zero eight six. <Comment Description="Digits"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2622.578" EndTime="2623.231" Participant="mn014"> |
| <VocalSound Description="sniff"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2623.913" EndTime="2627.994" Participant="me011" DigitTask="true"> |
| Two eight nine, six seven one, two nine, one six. <Comment Description="Digits"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2628.663" EndTime="2633.181" Participant="me011" DigitTask="true"> |
| Four, three nine nine, seven six, three zero zero, three. <Comment Description="Digits"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2633.682" EndTime="2636.807" Participant="me011" DigitTask="true"> |
| Two seven seven, five five, six three nine zero. <Comment Description="Digits"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2638.501" EndTime="2641.206" Participant="me018" DigitTask="true"> |
| Transcript L_ dash two five seven. <Comment Description="half way through digits, speaker separated phrases within the line with final rather than comma intonations"/> <Comment Description="Digits"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2641.535" EndTime="2646.171" Participant="me018" DigitTask="true"> |
| Six two O_ O_, zero one two nine, zero two three six. <Comment Description="Digits"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2644.051" EndTime="2645.064" Participant="mn014"> |
| <VocalSound Description="sniff"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2646.980" EndTime="2651.027" Participant="me018" DigitTask="true"> |
| Seven zero three four, six, three six eight. <Comment Description="Digits"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2651.962" EndTime="2655.684" Participant="me018" DigitTask="true"> |
| Four six three, two three, six eight four one. <Comment Description="Digits"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2654.859" EndTime="2656.030" Participant="mn005"> |
| <VocalSound Description="breath-cough"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2656.434" EndTime="2661.868" Participant="me018" DigitTask="true"> |
| O_ six, four nine, five eight, two three, one six. <Comment Description="Digits"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2662.373" EndTime="2668.061" Participant="me018" DigitTask="true"> |
| Seven, seven eight five, nine zero, seven two four, four. <Comment Description="Digits"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2668.934" EndTime="2673.116" Participant="me018" DigitTask="true"> |
| O_ one four, two six four, eight four three five. <Comment Description="Digits"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2673.611" EndTime="2679.494" Participant="me018" DigitTask="true"> |
| One, eight seven seven, four five, eight seven two, two. <Comment Description="Digits"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2680.086" EndTime="2685.107" Participant="me018" DigitTask="true"> |
| Four nine five four, one O_ one five, five one O_ five. <Comment Description="Digits"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2685.792" EndTime="2689.977" Participant="me018" DigitTask="true"> |
| O_ two two, O_ zero, zero two zero six. <Comment Description="Digits"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2687.823" EndTime="2688.847" Participant="mn014"> |
| <VocalSound Description="sniff"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2690.091" EndTime="2691.257" Participant="fe008"> |
| <NonVocalSound Description="mike noises"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2690.412" EndTime="2694.440" Participant="me018" DigitTask="true"> |
| Six five five six, one, eight five eight. <Comment Description="Digits"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2694.037" EndTime="2694.409" Participant="fe008"> |
| <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2695.818" EndTime="2699.223" Participant="mn005" DigitTask="true"> |
| Transcript L_ dash th- four two three. <Comment Description="Digits"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2699.757" EndTime="2703.292" Participant="mn005" DigitTask="true"> |
| Nine two zero, two six, seven one three two. <Comment Description="Digits"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2703.665" EndTime="2707.592" Participant="mn005" DigitTask="true"> |
| Four one O_, five zero, three one nine three. <Comment Description="Digits"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2706.409" EndTime="2707.673" Participant="mn014"> |
| <VocalSound Description="sniff"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2708.075" EndTime="2712.608" Participant="mn005" DigitTask="true"> |
| Four eight eight, four five one, two four eight seven. <Comment Description="Digits"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2713.035" EndTime="2717.683" Participant="mn005" DigitTask="true"> |
| Eight four seven, two three four, six O_, three. <Comment Description="Digits"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2718.320" EndTime="2720.386" Participant="mn005" DigitTask="true"> |
| Nine three nine, two five, <Comment Description="Digits"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2720.502" EndTime="2721.312" Participant="mn005" DigitTask="true"> |
| six six - <Comment Description="corrected below"/> <Comment Description="Digits"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2722.051" EndTime="2723.616" Participant="mn005" DigitTask="true"> |
| six six, four zero. <Comment Description="Digits"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2724.201" EndTime="2729.678" Participant="mn005" DigitTask="true"> |
| Three, five one three, nine eight, six five three, three. <Comment Description="Digits"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2730.205" EndTime="2735.366" Participant="mn005" DigitTask="true"> |
| Seven one three O_, five six zero one, four nine eight seven. <Comment Description="Digits"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2733.310" EndTime="2733.600" Participant="mn014"> |
| <VocalSound Description="sniff"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2735.854" EndTime="2740.236" Participant="mn005" DigitTask="true"> |
| Seven two nine, six one one, four six three. <Comment Description="Digits"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2740.873" EndTime="2745.143" Participant="mn005" DigitTask="true"> |
| Four three five, one six, nine one, O_ zero. <Comment Description="Digits"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2745.660" EndTime="2751.177" Participant="mn005" DigitTask="true"> |
| O_ two, nine zero, O_ zero, three one, seven three. <Comment Description="Digits"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2752.664" EndTime="2754.756" Participant="mn014" DigitTask="true"> |
| Transcript L_ five five nine. <Comment Description="Digits"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2755.416" EndTime="2759.557" Participant="mn014" DigitTask="true"> |
| Four two, nine one, eight eight, four two, two nine. <Comment Description="Digits"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2760.421" EndTime="2764.924" Participant="mn014" DigitTask="true"> |
| Five two, three five, two eight, three six, three eight. <Comment Description="Digits"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2766.070" EndTime="2771.351" Participant="mn014" DigitTask="true"> |
| Six eight, four nine, one four, seven one, five six. <Comment Description="Digits"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2772.162" EndTime="2776.300" Participant="mn014" DigitTask="true"> |
| Four eight three, seven two, four one eight O_. <Comment Description="Digits"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2776.869" EndTime="2780.346" Participant="mn014" DigitTask="true"> |
| O_ one one three, five, two one six. <Comment Description="Digits"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2780.838" EndTime="2785.401" Participant="mn014" DigitTask="true"> |
| Three four, seven five, O_ seven, three five, two zero. <Comment Description="Digits"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2781.032" EndTime="2781.456" Participant="fe008"> |
| <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2783.990" EndTime="2785.890" Participant="me001"> |
| <VocalSound Description="long breath"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2786.129" EndTime="2791.519" Participant="mn014" DigitTask="true"> |
| One, one nine one, zero nine, seven O_ five, one. <Comment Description="Digits"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2788.293" EndTime="2788.721" Participant="fe008"> |
| <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2792.336" EndTime="2795.638" Participant="mn014" DigitTask="true"> |
| Two five one three, five, five two seven. <Comment Description="Digits"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2796.173" EndTime="2800.896" Participant="mn014" DigitTask="true"> |
| Three four six three, five three O_ seven, four zero one two. <Comment Description="Digits"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2801.861" EndTime="2805.840" Participant="mn014" DigitTask="true"> |
| One eight zero, five nine five, nine three nine. <Comment Description="Digits"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2807.834" EndTime="2809.721" Participant="me013" DigitTask="true"> |
| Transcript L_ four nine three. <Comment Description="Digits"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2810.899" EndTime="2814.583" Participant="me013" DigitTask="true"> |
| Nine three four, six eight, five two six eight. <Comment Description="Digits"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2814.973" EndTime="2815.708" Participant="fe008"> |
| <NonVocalSound Description="mike noises"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2815.819" EndTime="2819.373" Participant="me013" DigitTask="true"> |
| O_ four three, eight six four, two three nine five. <Comment Description="Digits"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2817.849" EndTime="2818.176" Participant="fe008"> |
| <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2820.011" EndTime="2824.365" Participant="me013" DigitTask="true"> |
| Four nine two, one one O_, eight seven one zero. <Comment Description="Digits"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2822.290" EndTime="2822.889" Participant="fe008"> |
| <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2825.271" EndTime="2828.543" Participant="me013" DigitTask="true"> |
| Nine five three, zero three O_, six eight <Emphasis> four. </Emphasis> <Comment Description="Digits"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2829.918" EndTime="2834.043" Participant="me013" DigitTask="true"> |
| Eight five seven one, five zero nine two, nine three eight nine. <Comment Description="Digits"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2834.948" EndTime="2839.014" Participant="me013" DigitTask="true"> |
| Eight three two one, three, <Pause/> one two nine. <Comment Description="Digits"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2840.501" EndTime="2844.967" Participant="me013" DigitTask="true"> |
| Two seven three six, nine nine eight nine, nine five seven four. <Comment Description="Digits"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2846.368" EndTime="2850.047" Participant="me013" DigitTask="true"> |
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| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2851.188" EndTime="2854.633" Participant="me013" DigitTask="true"> |
| Six six one, three nine, five five four two. <Comment Description="Digits"/> |
| </Segment> |
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| Six five, one nine, five eight, nine three eight five. <Comment Description="Digits"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2860.880" EndTime="2861.444" Participant="me001"> |
| <VocalSound Description="clears throat"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2861.444" EndTime="2863.255" Participant="me001" DigitTask="true"> |
| Transcript L_ dash thirty-one. <Comment Description="Digits"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2863.865" EndTime="2867.385" Participant="me001" DigitTask="true"> |
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| <Segment StartTime="2867.845" EndTime="2871.817" Participant="me001" DigitTask="true"> |
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| </Segment> |
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| <Segment StartTime="2893.880" EndTime="2897.816" Participant="me001" DigitTask="true"> |
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| <Segment StartTime="2899.103" EndTime="2902.837" Participant="me001" DigitTask="true"> |
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| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2903.788" EndTime="2908.558" Participant="me001" DigitTask="true"> |
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| <Segment StartTime="2914.775" EndTime="2917.289" Participant="fe008" DigitTask="true"> |
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| <Segment StartTime="2922.546" EndTime="2926.206" Participant="fe008" DigitTask="true"> |
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| <Segment StartTime="2926.913" EndTime="2931.190" Participant="fe008" DigitTask="true"> |
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| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2931.976" EndTime="2935.752" Participant="fe008" DigitTask="true"> |
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| <Segment StartTime="2941.959" EndTime="2946.074" Participant="fe008" DigitTask="true"> |
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| <Segment StartTime="2946.763" EndTime="2950.436" Participant="fe008" DigitTask="true"> |
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| <Segment StartTime="2955.108" EndTime="2959.449" Participant="fe008" DigitTask="true"> |
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| <Segment StartTime="2966.535" EndTime="2967.631" Participant="me011"> |
| O_K. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2967.513" EndTime="2968.220" Participant="mn005"> |
| O_K. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2968.201" EndTime="2969.230" Participant="me001"> |
| Mmm. Alright. <Comment Description="less audible"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="2968.220" EndTime="2968.960" Participant="mn005"> |
| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="2973.564" EndTime="2974.315" Participant="me011"> |
| And - |
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