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We 're , I mean we We didn't have a house before.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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OK.
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We 're on again ? OK.
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Mm - hmm. That is really great.
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Yeah , so if uh So if anyone hasn't signed the consent form , please do so.
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That 's terrific.
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Oh , yeah !
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OK
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The new consent form. The new and improved consent form.
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Now you won't be able to walk or ride your bike , huh ?
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OK.
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Uh.
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Right.
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OK.
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And uh , shall I go ahead and do some digits ?
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Uh , we were gonna do that at the end , remember ?
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OK , whatever you want.
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Yeah. Just just to be consistent , from here on in at least , that that we 'll do it at the end.
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The new consent form.
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It 's uh Yeah , it doesn't matter. OK.
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OK Um Well , it ju I mean it might be that someone here has to go ,
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Testing , one , two , three.
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and Right ? That was that was sort of the point. So , uh I had asked actually anybody who had any ideas for an agenda to send it to me and no one did. So ,
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So we all forgot.
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Uh ,
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From last time I wanted to Uh The An iss uh one topic from last time.
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Right , s OK , so one item for an agenda is uh Jane has some uh uh some research to talk about , research issues. Um and Uh , Adam has some short research issues.
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And I have some short research issues.
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Um , I have a list of things that I think were done over the last three months I was supposed to send off , uh and , um I I sent a note about it to uh to Adam and Jane but I think I 'll just run through it also and see if someone thinks it 's inaccurate or uh insufficient.
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A list that you have to send off to who ?
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Uh , to uh uh , IBM.
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Oh.
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OK. They 're , you know
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So. Um , So , uh so , I 'll go through that. Um , And , Anything else ? anyone wants to talk about ?
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What about the , um your trip , yesterday ?
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No. OK. Um. Sort of off - topic I guess.
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Oh , OK.
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Cuz that 's Cuz that was all all about the , uh I I I can chat with you about that off - line. That 's another thing. Um , And , Anything else ? Nothing else ? Uh , there 's a I mean , there is a a , um uh telephone call tomorrow , which will be a conference call that some of us are involved in for uh a p...
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Do you want me to be there for that ? I noticed you C C ' ed me , but I wasn't actually a recipient. I didn't quite know what to make of that.
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Uh Well , we 'll talk talk about that after our meeting. OK.
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OK.
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Uh , OK. So it sounds like the the three main things that we have to talk about are , uh this list , uh Jane and Jane and Adam have some research items , and , other than that , anything , as usual , anything goes beyond that. OK , uh , Jane , since since you were sort of cut off last time why don't we start with ...
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OK , it 's it 's very eh it 's very brief , I mean just let me just hand these out. Oops.
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Is this the same as the email or different ?
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Thanks.
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It 's slightly different. I basically the same.
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OK.
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Same idea ?
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But , same idea. So , if you 've looked at this you 've seen it before , so Basically , um as you know , uh part of the encoding includes a mark that indicates an overlap. It 's not indicated with , um uh , tight precision , it 's just indicated that OK , so , It 's indicated to to so the people know what p...
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OK.
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And , um What you can see is the number of overlaps and then to the right , whether they involve two speakers , three speakers , or more than three speakers. And , um and , what I was looking for sp sp specifically was the question of whether they 're distributed evenly throughout or whether they 're bursts of ...
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What was what 's the the parenthesized stuff that says , like e the first one that says six overlaps and then two point eight ?
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Oh , th That 's the per cent.
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Mmm.
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So , six is , uh two point eight percent of the total number of overlaps in the session.
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Mm - hmm.
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Ah.
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Mm - hmm.
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At the very end , this is when people were , you know , packing up to go basically , there 's this final stuff , I think we I don't remember where the digits fell. I 'd have to look at that. But the final three there are no overlaps at all. And couple times there are not.
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Mm - hmm.
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So , i it seems like it goes through bursts but , um that 's kind of it.
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Mm - hmm.
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Now , Another question is is there are there individual differences in whether you 're likely to be overlapped with or to overlap with others. And , again I want to emphasize this is just one particular um one particular meeting , and also there 's been no statistical testing of it all , but I , um I took th...
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Hmm !
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Mm - hmm.
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And , then if you look down in the summary table , then you see that , um th they 're differences in whether a person got overlapped with or overlapped by.
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Is this uh just raw counts or is it
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Raw counts.
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So it would be interesting to see how much each person spoke.
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Mm - hmm.
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Yeah.
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Yeah Yeah
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Yes , very true very true
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Normalized to how much
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it would be good to normalize with respect to that. Now on the table I did take one step toward , uh away from the raw frequencies by putting , uh percentages. So that the percentage of time of the of the times that a person spoke , what percentage eh , w so. Of the times a person spoke and furthermore was invo...
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S so , i it would be statistically incorrect to conclude from this that Adam talked too much or something.
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No no actually , that would be actually statistically correct ,
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Yeah , yeah.
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No , no , no.
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Yeah , yeah. Yeah , yeah.
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but
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Yeah , that 's right.
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Yeah. Excuse me.
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That 's right. And I 'm you know , I 'm I don't see a point of singling people out ,
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B I I I rather enjoyed it , but but this
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now , this is a case where obviously
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But the numbers speak for themselves.
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He 's Yeah , yeah , yeah.
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Well , you know , it 's like I 'm not I 'm not saying on the tape who did better or worse
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Yes , that 's right , so you don't nee OK.
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Sure.
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because I don't think that it 's I you know , and and th here 's a case where of course , human subjects people would say be sure that you anonymize the results , and and , so , might as well do this.
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Yeah.
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Yeah , when this is what This is actually when Jane sent this email first , is what caused me to start thinking about anonymizing the data.
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Well , fair enough. Fair enough.
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Yeah.
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And actually , you know , the point is not about an individual , it 's the point about tendencies toward you know , different styles , different speaker styles.
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Oh sure.
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And it would be , you know of course , there 's also the question of what type of overlap was this , and w what were they , and i and I and I know that I can distinguish at least three types and , probably more , I mean , the general cultural idea which w uh , the conversation analysts originally started with in...
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