[0.00 --> 3.54]  I said I wouldn't do it until it was at least 10,000 miles old.
[3.82 --> 6.08]  But here I am at 7,500 miles.
[6.26 --> 8.98]  I just tuned my Golf R.
[9.54 --> 9.94]  Okay.
[10.08 --> 14.68]  Now, when you say tune, there's a couple of different ways to interpret that when you're talking about the Golf.
[14.74 --> 16.24]  Because they have several levels of tuning.
[16.42 --> 17.48]  There's software tuning.
[18.18 --> 19.40]  You've got to break it down for me.
[19.54 --> 20.18]  It's weird, right?
[20.22 --> 22.04]  So people say, oh, I've gone stage one.
[22.10 --> 23.24]  I've gone stage two.
[23.32 --> 24.00]  All this kind of stuff.
[24.10 --> 28.04]  So I've gone stage one with an equilibrium tune.
[28.04 --> 34.68]  I was at a car show at the weekend at the local tuning house in Raleigh, Black Forest Industries.
[35.40 --> 40.72]  I took the R32 down there and exhibited that off in their kind of main exhibitor area.
[40.80 --> 42.42]  And I took the R down there as well.
[43.04 --> 46.32]  And nobody was interested in that one because it's too new and too common.
[47.14 --> 50.22]  But I got talking to a few guys about tuning options and stuff like that.
[50.24 --> 53.46]  And someone was selling what's called a Cobb Access port.
[53.46 --> 59.94]  This is a tiny little cell phone sized computer that you plug into the OBD2 port of your car.
[60.74 --> 69.42]  I then paid $175 to a company called Equilibrium Tuning to purchase a staged tune map.
[69.88 --> 75.04]  So what they do is they go into the ECU and they remap all the valve timings and injections and all that kind of stuff.
[75.04 --> 83.02]  And so it takes the car from being a 280 horsepower car to being a 370 horsepower car.
[83.52 --> 85.42]  With no hardware mods required.
[85.88 --> 86.68]  No way.
[86.78 --> 87.86]  It's insane.
[88.08 --> 89.00]  That's remarkable.
[89.38 --> 94.42]  I did something similar to my RV and I think I got like a 10, a 10 horsepower improvement.
[94.66 --> 94.92]  10.
[94.92 --> 99.82]  These four cylinder two litre turbo engines that are in the Golf.
[100.02 --> 102.76]  It's the same engine as is in your GTI.
[103.16 --> 105.86]  The only difference with the R is there's an uprated turbo.
[106.00 --> 106.96]  So there's a bit of a bigger turbo.
[107.52 --> 110.18]  And the R is all wheel drive versus your front wheel drive.
[110.58 --> 115.96]  I tell you, if you've never got into tuning and you want to talk to someone about it and you've been thinking about it,
[116.04 --> 117.34]  I would love to talk to you on Discord.
[117.34 --> 125.14]  I won't take up too much more of the show about it, but just to say I'm giddy with excitement with the possibilities that this has unlocked for me.
[125.52 --> 126.12]  Yeah, that's amazing.
[126.28 --> 131.54]  And so can I flash my GTI with a software update in theory and see some sort of improvement too?
[131.74 --> 131.94]  Yeah.
[132.68 --> 133.34]  Oh, man.
[134.38 --> 135.56]  Oh, boy, it's getting dangerous.
[135.68 --> 139.26]  I think it's just about as much horsepower as you'd want with a two wheel drive car.
[139.48 --> 140.84]  But of course, you know, what do I know?
[140.92 --> 145.10]  But to me, it seems like it seems like if you get much more, I'd want to go all wheel drive.
[145.18 --> 145.92]  That's so awesome.
[145.92 --> 152.84]  I remember when I flashed my RV's ECU, it went from like, you know, it was a drive that you could do.
[152.90 --> 156.52]  You know, you were driving a bus to it felt like I was driving more of a truck.
[157.30 --> 162.48]  You know, that was a nice improvement just because the biggest change for me was it meant I could get on the on-ramp.
[162.74 --> 163.28]  That's just it.
[163.44 --> 163.56]  Yeah.
[163.66 --> 164.02]  Yeah.
[164.14 --> 165.06]  At speed.
[165.36 --> 167.06]  And, you know, I just had her checked.
[167.72 --> 169.78]  It's been flashed for probably three years now.
[169.84 --> 172.64]  And I just had her checked yesterday and she just passed all her checks.
[173.06 --> 173.98]  She's excellent.
[174.12 --> 174.74]  Healthy as can be.
[174.74 --> 175.00]  Yeah.
[175.00 --> 177.42]  Made it back from California in one piece.
[178.06 --> 179.12]  Yeah, we did.
[179.30 --> 186.38]  And now it's weird because we basically moved out to get some work done and I had to rip out the Wi-Fi network.
[186.52 --> 189.36]  And of course, my, you know, my Raspberry Pi server died.
[189.48 --> 192.08]  So all of my services were down and I had to shut down my Pi hole.
[193.06 --> 194.58]  And it's just strange.
[194.74 --> 200.00]  It doesn't quite feel like home anymore because I don't have control over everything that I want.
[200.22 --> 201.96]  And home is where the Wi-Fi is, right?
[201.96 --> 202.32]  Yeah.
[202.32 --> 202.40]  Yeah.
[202.50 --> 203.30]  I don't have Wi-Fi.
[203.54 --> 204.26]  I don't have internet.
[204.44 --> 205.26]  It's so strange.
[205.42 --> 212.86]  So after tonight's episode, after we're done recording tonight, I'm going to go home, I hope, and get like the Pi hole and get the Wi-Fi back online.
[212.86 --> 219.60]  Well, I couldn't quite believe it when you messaged me this week and said that your home assistant Yella has finally shown up.
[219.60 --> 221.16]  It's ridiculous.
[221.40 --> 222.94]  It's here at perfect timing.
[223.36 --> 223.80]  Ridiculous.
[224.00 --> 225.56]  It's perfect timing, right?
[225.62 --> 228.34]  Because the Raspberry Pi died on the road trip.
[228.52 --> 232.06]  I get home from the road trip and the yellow's there on the porch waiting for me.
[232.20 --> 232.40]  Yep.
[232.54 --> 234.14]  I saw the shipping notification.
[234.36 --> 237.66]  So I also ordered a one terabyte NVMe stick.
[237.92 --> 242.16]  So I've already opened up the yellow once and I've installed an NVMe drive.
[242.34 --> 244.14]  I have a quick pile of hardware here, Alex.
[244.14 --> 248.46]  Before I get to the yellow, I want to mention what I was going to use.
[249.22 --> 254.54]  This is a really cool piece of hardware that's been ruggedized, industrialized, can get into super hot conditions.
[255.00 --> 257.20]  And it's an Intel Atom system with quick sync.
[257.48 --> 262.36]  It's out of a Tesla solar wall that I picked up on the road trip from a listener.
[262.84 --> 263.36]  It's decent.
[263.50 --> 265.32]  Like you can even run a full Linux desktop on it.
[265.60 --> 268.10]  And it only takes about five watts idle.
[268.52 --> 270.24]  So this is where I was considering going.
[270.32 --> 272.62]  The only problem with this box, and I'm probably still going to use it.
[272.82 --> 274.08]  I love that it's DC.
[274.58 --> 277.32]  And it's got two com ports, which is amazing.
[277.72 --> 281.04]  Is that an XT60 connector I see on the power cable?
[281.24 --> 281.42]  Yeah.
[282.36 --> 283.70]  Now I know who gave it to you.
[284.06 --> 284.28]  Yeah.
[286.26 --> 289.68]  And I'm probably going to use this for something else, but it's such a cool little box.
[289.84 --> 291.98]  I thought, okay, I've got an option now, right?
[292.00 --> 293.22]  So this was one of my options.
[293.22 --> 295.16]  And it's an X86 box.
[295.60 --> 296.22]  Good power draw.
[297.68 --> 298.88]  Then the yellow arrived.
[299.26 --> 301.22]  Now, I have to say I'm very impressed.
[301.40 --> 303.64]  I think the home assistant team did a good job with the case.
[304.08 --> 305.46]  I've taken it apart a couple of times.
[305.52 --> 306.60]  It goes right back together.
[306.72 --> 308.16]  I can get access to it really quick.
[308.64 --> 312.16]  They have the logo for home assistant ingrained in the casing.
[312.40 --> 313.16]  Laser etched up there.
[313.24 --> 313.70]  Yeah, it's nice.
[313.80 --> 313.96]  Yeah.
[313.96 --> 316.28]  And all the ports are on the back.
[316.48 --> 318.40]  The compute modules just popped right in.
[318.44 --> 319.86]  My MVME popped right in.
[320.24 --> 325.00]  I think this is going to be how I will do home assistant in the RV is on a dedicated machine.
[325.22 --> 327.48]  I'm going to have a dedicated machine for home assistant.
[328.56 --> 331.60]  And I'm going to have an application server for all my other stuff.
[331.78 --> 335.12]  So home assistant yellow will run all of the automations and jupes.
[335.12 --> 340.66]  And, you know, she's got this yellow has got EMMC for storage for the primary OS.
[340.80 --> 342.40]  And they've got MVME expansion.
[342.54 --> 344.98]  I don't really know how you use that, but it's in there.
[345.06 --> 350.02]  So it's going to give me, I think, I expect at least five years of runway with that device.
[350.02 --> 363.30]  But then on your encouragement, and I didn't expect this for like a month, I also picked up the Odroid H3 Plus that they announced shortly after our last episode.
[363.80 --> 367.54]  It arrived today just a little bit before the show.
[367.68 --> 368.56]  It's still in the packaging.
[368.80 --> 369.88]  Oh, you went for the plus, huh?
[370.26 --> 370.68]  Of course.
[370.92 --> 371.52]  Of course.
[372.20 --> 373.44]  Who am I talking to?
[373.54 --> 375.20]  Sorry, I forgot myself for a hot second.
[376.50 --> 378.72]  Now I'm showing Alex on the camera, but I'll describe it to you.
[378.72 --> 380.10]  Check this out, Alex.
[380.16 --> 380.62]  Here it is.
[381.02 --> 384.24]  It's got two Ethernets.
[384.84 --> 387.96]  It's got four USB-A.
[388.12 --> 389.28]  It's got USB-C.
[389.68 --> 391.32]  DC barrel power connector.
[391.80 --> 395.30]  It has audio out ports, including optical audio out.
[395.38 --> 397.76]  And it has HDMI and DisplayPort.
[398.28 --> 400.58]  Plus, it has an Intel chip on here.
[400.64 --> 402.58]  It's got a pretty meaty heatsink on it.
[402.58 --> 408.48]  And on the bottom, it's got two slots for RAM and a slot for an MVME disk.
[408.72 --> 413.52]  And the killer feature for me, two SATA ports on the board.
[414.04 --> 414.80]  That's massive.
[414.90 --> 418.28]  That's a game changer for me because I've been using USB storage forever.
[418.86 --> 421.82]  Welcome to the world of real hardware, dude.
[421.98 --> 422.22]  You know?
[422.30 --> 423.08]  I'm so excited.
[423.34 --> 424.26]  I'm so excited.
[424.54 --> 425.54]  I'm so pleased.
[425.84 --> 426.96]  Oh, I think it's going to be perfect.
[427.34 --> 430.02]  So this is what will replace my Raspberry Pi 4.
[430.56 --> 433.76]  And I'm going to run all my applications and more, right?
[433.80 --> 435.04]  Because I've got more horsepower here.
[435.06 --> 436.24]  And it's got QuickSync as well.
[436.66 --> 438.44]  I got to get some RAM ordered for it.
[438.50 --> 439.76]  I didn't expect it to arrive this soon.
[439.78 --> 441.30]  So I haven't ordered anything for it.
[441.30 --> 441.94]  What type of RAM?
[442.08 --> 444.20]  Is it laptop style, the smaller stuff?
[444.38 --> 444.66]  Yes.
[444.66 --> 444.88]  Yeah.
[444.88 --> 445.08]  Okay.
[445.08 --> 445.24]  Yeah.
[445.28 --> 446.10]  It's the small stuff.
[446.20 --> 447.20]  I think it's DDR4.
[447.34 --> 450.36]  Do I recall reading that thing will take up to 64 gigs of RAM?
[450.84 --> 451.08]  Yes.
[451.16 --> 452.04]  I believe that is the case.
[452.14 --> 454.22]  I need to, I should have grabbed the specs before the show.
[454.52 --> 455.50]  I was so excited.
[455.94 --> 456.68]  It's funny, right?
[456.70 --> 460.10]  Because when the Pi 4 died, I was like, crap, I don't know what I'm going to do.
[460.18 --> 462.70]  I don't, I have nothing I want to replace this with.
[462.74 --> 465.72]  I'm like, I guess I could build it around another Pi 4 again.
[465.72 --> 470.02]  But then I'm not really going, I'm going through all this work and I'm not getting a performance upgrade.
[470.66 --> 473.58]  And then this thing shows up just a little bit after last episode.
[473.70 --> 473.80]  Yeah.
[473.82 --> 474.54]  It's perfect timing.
[474.76 --> 475.90]  They actually shipped it.
[476.08 --> 476.66]  I got it.
[476.82 --> 478.06]  I can't believe it.
[478.36 --> 479.24]  I can't believe it.
[479.68 --> 484.12]  I think what I want to do is first is I want to, I want to load desktop Linux on here just to see what it's like.
[484.14 --> 488.36]  And then I'll wipe it off immediately and start building, I think, a Nix OS server.
[488.78 --> 489.74]  I mean, it looks amazing.
[489.74 --> 491.80]  And I shared it with you for this exact reason.
[491.84 --> 493.34]  It's got a passive heatsink on it.
[493.34 --> 499.82]  So, you know, it can run completely, completely silently, which is perfect for a small space like the RV.
[500.48 --> 501.22]  Yes, totally.
[501.62 --> 513.68]  The only thing I would change about it, and I don't have one, but the only thing I would change about it is the fact that both of those Nix are Realtek 2.5 gig Nix.
[514.08 --> 520.04]  I would have preferred two Intel Nix just simply for better hardware compatibility reasons.
[520.04 --> 529.78]  You know, Realtek's probably fine, but if ever I've had a Nix issue in the past, it's been not an Intel Nix and a Quantia or Realtek or something like that.
[530.18 --> 534.20]  Whereas Intel Nix just work and it takes all the problems away.
[534.74 --> 536.52]  But anyway, I'm nitpicking.
[536.78 --> 538.52]  Otherwise, it's a fantastic looking board.
[539.06 --> 542.16]  I imagine they'll be fine, but I also 100% agree with you.
[542.16 --> 547.52]  I would also prefer that, though I'm just excited to have a Nix that isn't on the USB bus.
[547.98 --> 549.48]  So, you know, that's good, too.
[549.68 --> 552.14]  I don't think it was for the Pi 4, but it is for most of the Pis.
[552.32 --> 558.84]  And if you wanted to ever add a secondary Nix to the Raspberry Pi to, like, use it for a firewall or something like that, you would be doing that over USB.
[559.40 --> 562.06]  So for me, it's like, OK, at least they're on the PCI bus.
[562.16 --> 564.18]  And then it would be nice if they were Intel.
[564.38 --> 566.10]  But I'll take on the PCI bus.
[566.10 --> 567.28]  So what are you going to run on it?
[567.52 --> 569.94]  Proxmox and then virtualize like Home Assistant that way?
[570.24 --> 572.70]  Oh, I should consider Proxmox, huh?
[573.42 --> 578.44]  Well, you know, I'd still kind of subscribe to the no container theory for a lot of this stuff.
[578.52 --> 580.22]  And Nix OS would be really good for that.
[580.52 --> 583.10]  But it does make a lot of sense to have Proxmox sitting on there.
[583.16 --> 586.02]  And I shouldn't have any problem passing QuickSync through, right?
[586.06 --> 586.72]  That should be fine.
[587.04 --> 588.64]  So what would you need to pass it through for?
[589.18 --> 589.42]  Plex.
[589.72 --> 595.44]  Yeah, I mean, we'll come on to this topic later in the show because it's actually been coming up quite a lot in Discord lately about LXC versus
[595.44 --> 598.60]  Docker versus VMs, all that kind of stuff.
[598.70 --> 599.92]  We'll come to that later.
[600.08 --> 601.20]  Please remind me if I forget.
[602.02 --> 608.06]  But in the meantime, I also saw another update in the news feed this week that I thought would make you a happy little bunny.
[608.68 --> 612.56]  Apple with, I think, iOS 16.1 are actually shipping.
[612.86 --> 613.48]  It's real.
[613.58 --> 615.10]  It's really happening, people.
[615.88 --> 616.78]  They're shipping matter.
[618.08 --> 619.38]  This is my week, man.
[619.38 --> 620.54]  This is my week.
[620.96 --> 622.38]  It's all coming together, buddy.
[622.64 --> 624.78]  And the thing is, they're shipping it on the HomePod.
[624.78 --> 626.86]  They're updating the HomePod to support matter.
[627.06 --> 635.08]  And they just announced today as we record a new Apple TV and the fancier version that has Ethernet also supports thread and matter.
[635.16 --> 639.00]  So they're, I mean, surprisingly going all in for Apple, at least.
[639.60 --> 644.62]  I don't really know if this changes what I'm going to do hardware wise in terms of like sensors and devices yet.
[644.62 --> 651.94]  But I am curious what it means for accessibility of Apple's remote control features to like Home Assistant.
[652.48 --> 659.78]  Like when Home Assistant gets their hands on this, maybe I'll have remote integrated control even better than I did before without even having to use HomeKit at all or something.
[660.32 --> 661.22]  That would be nice, wouldn't it?
[661.30 --> 661.46]  Yeah.
[661.56 --> 662.28]  Yeah, maybe not.
[662.82 --> 671.74]  What's important about this update coming out now, Apple being the first mover, I think, in actually shipping, you know, provider level support for this stuff.
[671.74 --> 673.84]  That's a very strange place for Apple to be.
[674.50 --> 675.86]  But anyway, you've already got HomePods.
[675.94 --> 676.94]  You've already got Apple TVs.
[677.34 --> 690.04]  So for you, you could just purchase one or two Matter devices and kind of dip your toe in nice and early and get a feeling for it without having to spend hundreds or thousands of dollars on all new sensors and all new whatever.
[690.04 --> 696.60]  And you can just do a couple of things and kind of drip feed this stuff in as support lands in Home Assistant and that kind of stuff.
[697.06 --> 698.54]  Which is probably the best way to go, right?
[698.78 --> 707.34]  Because I guess if history is to be our teacher, it's very possible that the Rev1 devices could be kind of so-so and this thing takes a couple of revisions.
[707.70 --> 708.10]  No.
[709.10 --> 709.50]  No.
[710.10 --> 711.72]  The first iPhone was perfect.
[711.86 --> 712.36]  Yeah, right.
[712.52 --> 712.76]  Right.
[712.80 --> 713.22]  Of course.
[713.34 --> 716.12]  And the first wireless communications protocols are always perfect, too.
[716.52 --> 716.78]  Yeah.
[716.78 --> 722.46]  I'm seeing the reaction to the H3, the Odroid H3 that we just talked about in the Discord chat.
[722.82 --> 726.42]  It's probably a good job you got one because I think half our audience are about to buy one.
[726.92 --> 731.36]  I've got to imagine they would be because it seems like the perfect device for what we do.
[731.46 --> 733.76]  I mean, low power but performance where it counts.
[734.42 --> 736.94]  NVMe storage instead of an EMMC or SSD.
[737.70 --> 740.32]  And, of course, having those two SATA ports.
[740.32 --> 741.80]  I have a request for you.
[741.90 --> 746.78]  Could you do some energy monitoring for us and, like, compare what a pie draws versus this thing?
[747.32 --> 752.98]  Because my argument to you for all these years has been, look how much more powerful x86 is for the same power budget.
[753.28 --> 756.84]  So I'm curious as to what that, in reality, is that true or not?
[757.00 --> 757.16]  Yeah.
[757.42 --> 758.38]  Yeah, that's a great thing to check.
[758.44 --> 758.68]  I will.
[759.14 --> 764.22]  I'm also wondering, you know, should I figure out what my power budget is?
[764.22 --> 769.40]  I've always just kind of played fast and loose, you know, three, four pies down to two pies.
[769.84 --> 775.30]  So if I look at that, like, what would four pies have taken versus having everything on just two devices?
[775.54 --> 780.28]  The yellow, which I expect is going to be, you know, what a CM4 takes plus a little bit more.
[780.64 --> 783.94]  And then now this H-Droid or Odroid H3.
[785.40 --> 788.70]  I'm expecting somewhere around five to six watts idle.
[788.94 --> 790.58]  And then who knows when it's ramped up?
[790.72 --> 791.48]  We'll find out.
[791.94 --> 792.98]  You just got to figure it out, eh?
[793.52 --> 794.06]  Figure it out.
[794.22 --> 797.74]  Linode.com slash SSH.
[797.82 --> 800.74]  That's where you go to get $100 in 60-day credit on a new account.
[800.84 --> 803.28]  And it's a great way to support the show while you're checking out a service.
[803.58 --> 804.46]  It's frankly awesome.
[804.58 --> 814.58]  We run everything we've built for the last few years on Linode, including our brand new shiny website, JupiterBroadcasting.com, which is kicked off and rebuilt on the regular on Linode.
[814.68 --> 816.46]  And we are super impressed with the speed.
[816.60 --> 819.38]  We've integrated it overall with our infrastructure management tools.
[819.52 --> 820.22]  And you can, too.
[820.44 --> 821.98]  Terraform, Ansible, Kubernetes.
[822.30 --> 823.36]  It works with all of that.
[823.36 --> 824.54]  But maybe you're brand new.
[824.64 --> 826.34]  Maybe you've never done any of this stuff.
[826.74 --> 828.48]  Linode has what they call an app marketplace.
[828.88 --> 832.60]  It's basically like one-click deployment for a lot of really great open source applications.
[832.84 --> 836.52]  And they just recently refreshed their whole approach to NextCloud.
[836.76 --> 838.38]  It's got a new feature in the marketplace.
[838.64 --> 839.92]  They're working with the project.
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[844.80 --> 852.44]  This week, I'm also just playing around with their GPU instances with a little bit of AI image generation because they've got GPU machines.
[852.44 --> 857.76]  And I'm not going to go build a crazy huge NVIDIA box just to play around with a project, right?
[857.82 --> 859.94]  But I'll go to play a Linode for a couple of days.
[860.24 --> 860.82]  And you can, too.
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[869.72 --> 874.92]  Or maybe you just want a gaming server, a blog server, or a NextCloud instance up in the cloud.
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[890.10 --> 901.48]  I thought I'd continue my journey down the whole home audio rabbit hole exploration spelunking exercise that I've been doing recently.
[902.04 --> 906.02]  Lots of people write in, give me lots of excellent recommendations of different things to try.
[906.16 --> 908.38]  Volumio is still on my list of things to try.
[908.96 --> 912.78]  However, I thought I would try out the big dog in the room.
[913.24 --> 914.12]  In the rune?
[914.56 --> 916.04]  The big dog in the rune?
[916.38 --> 917.36]  I see what you did there.
[917.80 --> 918.24]  Terrible.
[918.76 --> 919.92]  I tried out rune this week.
[920.10 --> 921.30]  For all of you lovely people.
[921.78 --> 922.36]  I love it.
[922.86 --> 926.84]  I didn't want to because it's so damn expensive.
[927.62 --> 927.72]  Yeah.
[927.72 --> 933.78]  But rune bills itself as the audiophile player for music fanatics.
[934.76 --> 942.74]  So essentially you run a piece of software on a NAS or a computer or a server like I have.
[943.44 --> 948.72]  And it goes through and it catalogs all of your FLAC files, all of your audio.
[948.72 --> 950.10]  So it can be lossy stuff.
[950.16 --> 951.36]  It can be lossless.
[951.98 --> 952.34]  Whatever.
[952.34 --> 952.92]  All right.
[952.98 --> 953.64]  That sounds great.
[954.22 --> 957.40]  I've got about a quarter of a million files I've acquired over the years.
[957.62 --> 960.30]  A lot of them have ripped, actually, of CD rips.
[960.40 --> 961.62]  I did a decade plus ago.
[961.72 --> 965.14]  I went before I donated all my CDs to the charity shop.
[965.14 --> 967.40]  The performance has been fine.
[967.40 --> 972.92]  You know, it indexed that quarter of a million files in, I don't know, six hours or so.
[973.14 --> 975.52]  Maybe three, four, five, six hours, something like that.
[976.06 --> 978.48]  Is this running on a Windows machine, Linux machine, Mac?
[978.62 --> 981.40]  I'm running it in a Docker container on my Linux server.
[981.52 --> 983.32]  But you can run it on a Windows machine too.
[983.42 --> 985.00]  So they do offer it as a Docker container?
[985.00 --> 985.36]  Yeah.
[985.74 --> 991.82]  Well, I don't know if they officially do, but it's certainly possible because it's just a Linux app.
[992.60 --> 999.00]  The real issue with it, though, is that to run this server, they charge...
[999.00 --> 1001.80]  I can't believe I'm going to say this.
[1002.18 --> 1007.14]  They charge me $10 a month for access to my own files.
[1007.58 --> 1008.06]  Yeah.
[1008.24 --> 1008.48]  Okay.
[1008.48 --> 1011.46]  It's bring your own streaming service.
[1011.64 --> 1013.54]  Bring your own music streaming service, essentially.
[1014.24 --> 1016.02]  It does have a couple of nice features.
[1016.18 --> 1021.96]  Like it integrates with Tidal and CoBuzz for high-res gap filling in your library.
[1022.06 --> 1026.22]  So let's say you're missing an album or a new album came out that you haven't bought yet or something like that.
[1026.80 --> 1031.82]  It will automatically go to Tidal and CoBuzz if you have an active subscription with those two services
[1031.82 --> 1035.62]  and pull it in and fill in the gaps for you, which is really nice.
[1035.62 --> 1039.60]  And it tries to automatically prioritize the highest quality version of a track available.
[1040.20 --> 1047.90]  So let's say I had an MP3 in my local library, but CoBuzz has a high-res, you know, high-res mastered version of it.
[1048.08 --> 1050.92]  It will play the CoBuzz version, which I really liked.
[1051.32 --> 1053.06]  Yeah, that does seem like the way you'd want it.
[1053.32 --> 1058.04]  And I guess that $10 is going towards the access to the licenses to stream that stuff automatically?
[1058.46 --> 1059.24]  I guess so.
[1059.24 --> 1066.76]  But Rune's killer feature, and I say this genuinely out of love, is the way it presents metadata.
[1067.40 --> 1070.90]  So you end up with this kind of like magazine view of an album.
[1071.04 --> 1077.10]  So let's say I'm listening to some Led Zeppelin or something, and it shows me Led Zepp 4.
[1077.60 --> 1079.64]  That's the best Led Zepp album, in my opinion.
[1079.92 --> 1083.96]  And so I go in there and I look at it and I click on one of the tracks and I can see on the credits,
[1083.96 --> 1089.42]  you know, all the different people associated with a specific album and, you know, who produced it,
[1089.50 --> 1090.82]  who did the mixing for it.
[1090.82 --> 1098.54]  And if you're a proper audio nerd, you can go down the rabbit hole really deep, really fast,
[1098.54 --> 1104.92]  because each of the names and each of the albums mentioned in the description about this thing is a link.
[1105.36 --> 1107.64]  And that's powered on their server side.
[1108.38 --> 1112.40]  You know, for example, Stephen Wilson is one of my personal musical heroes.
[1112.40 --> 1114.22]  He's in a band called Porcupine Tree.
[1114.38 --> 1115.84]  He's done a bunch of solo stuff as well.
[1116.84 --> 1121.62]  And he is probably the most famous musician you've never heard of.
[1122.08 --> 1126.50]  Like he works with all, he mixes film soundtracks and all kinds of stuff.
[1127.00 --> 1130.96]  And so when I dig into Stephen's profile, I get to see everything he's associated with
[1130.96 --> 1134.14]  and everything he's worked as an engineer on and worked as an editor on.
[1134.34 --> 1137.56]  And before you know it, you found 10 new bands you didn't know you liked,
[1137.60 --> 1139.68]  because it's got some of your favourite influences in.
[1140.20 --> 1141.02]  So that's amazing.
[1141.02 --> 1146.26]  The way it presents metadata is genuinely Rune's killer, killer feature.
[1146.82 --> 1150.94]  The other thing that I like about it is the fact it does multi-room audio,
[1151.04 --> 1152.90]  much in the same way as like a Sonos does.
[1153.48 --> 1157.02]  You have a little icon in your playback client,
[1157.16 --> 1161.04]  and then you can just check a box and suddenly you've got two devices playing in sync.
[1161.82 --> 1167.66]  That doesn't sound too incredible until I explain the scenario that really blew my mind.
[1167.66 --> 1173.24]  So Rune has this thing called Rune Advanced Audio Transport, RAT.
[1174.04 --> 1178.92]  That runs on anything that runs a Rune Ready or a Rune Native client.
[1179.22 --> 1186.72]  So certain amplifiers have been certified by Rune and by Marantz and Denon and all these big guys.
[1186.72 --> 1195.16]  They pay Rune a small fee and they embed the Rune Ready receiver software into their network streamers.
[1195.16 --> 1205.82]  You can also run a RAT Ready device on a Windows PC, a Mac computer, an iOS device, a Raspberry Pi.
[1206.66 --> 1209.48]  And so you can cast effectively.
[1209.74 --> 1215.18]  It's not quite casting, but you can stream music to any RAT Ready device in sync,
[1215.18 --> 1217.14]  no matter what OS it's running.
[1217.38 --> 1218.78]  So just paint this.
[1218.86 --> 1221.44]  I've got my iPad out on the deck where I'm grilling some meats.
[1222.34 --> 1227.28]  In the lounge next door, I've got a Raspberry Pi plugged into a HiFi running Linux.
[1227.48 --> 1230.46]  In the room next door, I've got my laptop running Mac OS.
[1231.24 --> 1235.08]  And all three of those devices are playing audio perfectly in sync
[1235.08 --> 1238.40]  that I'm controlling from my iPhone with a single checkbox.
[1238.86 --> 1241.76]  Oh, that is pretty glorious.
[1242.14 --> 1243.40]  That's the dream, isn't it?
[1243.74 --> 1243.96]  Yeah.
[1244.50 --> 1244.78]  Yeah.
[1245.18 --> 1247.64]  All the machines, all the speakers, all the OSs.
[1248.18 --> 1254.20]  The catch, and unfortunately, I think there's probably some technical limitations here at play,
[1254.40 --> 1260.94]  is that you can only stream like that to devices that are part of the same kind of ecosystem.
[1261.30 --> 1265.84]  So I can only group devices that are RAT devices.
[1265.84 --> 1268.36]  I can only group Chromecast devices together.
[1268.44 --> 1270.54]  I can only group AirPlay devices together.
[1270.54 --> 1275.26]  I can't stream to an AirPlay and a Chromecast device at the same time.
[1275.34 --> 1276.10]  Do you have any idea why?
[1276.16 --> 1277.50]  That's a pretty interesting limitation.
[1277.86 --> 1283.18]  Well, I mean, AirPlay, the way it buffers the stream is quite different to how Chromecast buffers the stream.
[1283.30 --> 1285.32]  So it's using their native protocols.
[1285.38 --> 1287.08]  It's not using like a client on that.
[1287.20 --> 1288.14]  Oh, yeah.
[1288.14 --> 1288.34]  Okay.
[1288.34 --> 1289.16]  That makes sense.
[1289.22 --> 1290.60]  Well, that's what the RAT stuff is doing.
[1290.60 --> 1295.60]  So the RAT stuff is running a native client on the specific device, so iOS or whatever.
[1296.38 --> 1297.78]  And that's why you can't group them together.
[1297.92 --> 1311.68]  And I was a little bit deflated to start with when I found that out because I had this magical vision of all the Google Home Nest Mini hub things I have around the house and all my computers and everything all working perfectly in sync.
[1311.68 --> 1314.42]  And unfortunately, that isn't the case.
[1316.92 --> 1323.12]  What if you bought the Nucleus Plus, which is their $2,600 server that you can buy from them?
[1323.20 --> 1325.68]  How do you know this service is aimed at audio files, huh?
[1326.08 --> 1327.10]  How to tell, right?
[1327.28 --> 1329.00]  I mean, it's a cool looking case.
[1329.54 --> 1330.38]  I'll give them that.
[1330.44 --> 1332.26]  It's a beautiful ecosystem.
[1332.78 --> 1334.02]  Yeah, they've got a...
[1334.02 --> 1336.80]  So you can run this Rune Core, this server software.
[1337.28 --> 1339.12]  You can run it in a Docker container like I am.
[1339.12 --> 1341.64]  You can run it on a Synology, on a computer.
[1342.04 --> 1345.06]  But Rune also sell this thing called the Nucleus.
[1345.14 --> 1349.72]  And Chris is showing on the stream now something called the Whirlwind, which is a rack mount version of the same thing.
[1350.10 --> 1350.82]  It's so great.
[1351.42 --> 1353.66]  That one's $4,500, by the way.
[1354.66 --> 1363.10]  And you know what's funny is if you actually dig into the specs page on these pages, there is zero information about what CPU is in there.
[1363.30 --> 1367.10]  There is a page where they just say they have on their partners page.
[1367.20 --> 1368.76]  They say they have partnered with Intel.
[1368.76 --> 1369.70]  Yeah, that's it.
[1370.12 --> 1378.60]  I mean, who's to say whether it's a Celeron from 2003 or whether it's an i7 12th gen?
[1378.72 --> 1381.88]  I mean, I imagine it's neither, but we don't know.
[1382.00 --> 1383.24]  And that's the point, right?
[1383.30 --> 1384.70]  It's a black box, literally.
[1384.92 --> 1385.02]  Yeah.
[1385.20 --> 1391.48]  And when you're dropping that kind of cash, I guess, you know, and of course, the answer is they're selling this to a market who couldn't care less.
[1391.58 --> 1392.46]  We realize that.
[1392.64 --> 1395.42]  But it's still, it wouldn't kill them to put the specs on there.
[1395.42 --> 1397.80]  If you go by the ports, it looks like it's a NUC in there.
[1397.90 --> 1398.82]  I have to say.
[1399.36 --> 1400.32]  Yeah, I agree.
[1401.20 --> 1405.72]  So, I mean, if we can get over the price of this thing, because I mentioned the monthly price.
[1405.78 --> 1408.42]  I didn't mention they also offer a lifetime pass.
[1409.20 --> 1409.40]  Okay.
[1409.40 --> 1421.10]  I mean, if you're really stuck with it and they stuck around, you know, you got somewhere between five to ten years out of this and it had high spousal approval.
[1422.46 --> 1422.90]  Maybe.
[1423.18 --> 1424.06]  I mean, I could see that.
[1424.60 --> 1427.90]  So, Rune as a company was founded, I think, in 2015.
[1427.90 --> 1438.12]  And so, if you'd bought into Rune in 2015 and paid $700, you would only just be breaking even on your monthly subscription.
[1438.92 --> 1440.70]  Just put that into perspective.
[1440.90 --> 1444.44]  Seven years is a long time for an ROI on that kind of thing.
[1445.38 --> 1447.96]  And I wrestled with this pretty hard before I actually tried Rune out.
[1448.08 --> 1449.88]  You know, I wanted to hate it because it was expensive.
[1450.02 --> 1452.18]  I wanted to hate it because it was closed source.
[1452.18 --> 1456.36]  But then I thought, well, so is Plex, isn't it?
[1456.46 --> 1457.86]  And you like Plex just fine.
[1458.66 --> 1462.72]  And so, I kind of came to terms with it and got over myself and thought, yeah, you know, it's fine.
[1462.78 --> 1465.36]  You can try it out and you'll hate it anyway.
[1466.72 --> 1467.52]  I don't.
[1467.68 --> 1468.24]  I love it.
[1469.26 --> 1474.06]  The trouble is, just as I've been doing this, they've made a big release.
[1474.20 --> 1481.10]  They've just released the 2.0, the version 2, which if you're a Rune aficionado is a huge deal.
[1481.10 --> 1485.12]  But to me, as a newbie, it's just unstable, right?
[1487.00 --> 1489.02]  So, you're familiar with Plexamp, right?
[1489.10 --> 1491.52]  The app that lets you play your Plex music remotely.
[1492.16 --> 1492.42]  Love it.
[1492.70 --> 1496.72]  Rune have just released an equivalent app called Rune Arc, A-R-C.
[1497.54 --> 1501.80]  And this lets you access all of your Rune music outside the house.
[1501.94 --> 1506.20]  As it stands, the Rune desktop and mobile clients that already existed
[1506.20 --> 1511.10]  only worked if you were on your LAN and directly connected to your Rune core.
[1511.78 --> 1514.34]  I couldn't get it to work over tail scale remotely.
[1514.84 --> 1518.00]  So, Rune Arc kind of bridges that gap for a lot of people.
[1519.08 --> 1524.12]  However, this brings us to the cons section of my document.
[1524.12 --> 1533.12]  I don't really know how else to say this, but Rune with 2.0 have shot their...
[1533.98 --> 1537.26]  They're kind of eating their own face, okay?
[1537.54 --> 1542.94]  And the reason I say that is because, firstly, they're charging me $10 a month
[1542.94 --> 1548.78]  for access to my own files, plus the metadata, plus the integrations with Tidal and Cobuzz.
[1548.78 --> 1549.26]  Okay.
[1550.46 --> 1552.42]  However, it gets worse.
[1552.98 --> 1559.38]  They guarantee, with the 2.0 update, zero minutes of offline playback.
[1559.76 --> 1563.46]  If the Rune core cannot connect to the internet,
[1564.48 --> 1570.26]  Rune's position is that they guarantee zero minutes of playback.
[1570.70 --> 1573.80]  Because they don't want to have to pay out when somebody's Wi-Fi goes down
[1573.80 --> 1576.62]  or their router takes a crap, something like that, you think?
[1576.62 --> 1581.48]  Well, according to Johnny Darko, who is the source of this information,
[1581.62 --> 1586.06]  he spoke to, I think his name is Danny, over at Rune about this.
[1586.12 --> 1588.08]  There's a link in the show notes to this video because it's...
[1589.10 --> 1591.34]  I couldn't quite believe what I was watching.
[1591.58 --> 1594.94]  And, you know, Johnny Darko is a proper audiophile,
[1595.06 --> 1599.40]  and I trust his opinion almost implicitly on an awful lot of audio gear.
[1599.56 --> 1601.64]  And just, I like the way his videos feel.
[1601.80 --> 1603.50]  I like the way he presents information.
[1603.50 --> 1606.92]  He's a British guy living in, I think, Berlin.
[1607.22 --> 1607.58]  Oh!
[1608.24 --> 1609.10]  So, yeah.
[1609.34 --> 1610.70]  We've got to stick together, you know.
[1611.30 --> 1615.60]  But what's interesting is Johnny is clearly not a techno guy like us, right?
[1616.26 --> 1619.98]  And listening to someone who's operating on the edge of their understanding
[1619.98 --> 1623.36]  about how some of these technologies on the server side of things work,
[1623.50 --> 1626.36]  it's really interesting because it shows you, actually,
[1626.52 --> 1629.44]  that I think Rune are just trying to pull the wool over people's eyes.
[1629.44 --> 1631.06]  And I don't say that lightly.
[1631.48 --> 1636.48]  And the reason I do say it is because the Rune projects say they're doing this
[1636.48 --> 1640.44]  always online connectivity thing for the server
[1640.44 --> 1644.38]  because they want to move a lot of the processing to the cloud
[1644.38 --> 1647.22]  and to move the product forward and all that kind of stuff.
[1647.28 --> 1651.14]  So a lot of the local processing that currently happens on the Nucleus,
[1651.28 --> 1655.78]  on the Rune core, on my local network, is moving into the cloud.
[1655.78 --> 1659.38]  And they say that they'll be able to batch stuff up and make it more efficient
[1659.38 --> 1662.88]  and kind of, you know, de-duplicate a lot of, you know,
[1663.00 --> 1664.62]  template matching and all that kind of stuff.
[1665.04 --> 1666.86]  Which I get, which I understand,
[1667.06 --> 1671.36]  and does actually make some semblance of sense.
[1671.84 --> 1676.70]  However, we're talking about this through a lens of self-hosting, right?
[1676.78 --> 1679.16]  That's the name of the podcast, right?
[1680.10 --> 1683.98]  Just imagine a situation where your internet goes out for half an hour every day
[1683.98 --> 1689.90]  and you suddenly can't play back the files on your NAS under your desk in your basement.
[1690.40 --> 1695.32]  You know, it's just unacceptable on a huge number of levels for me personally.
[1695.50 --> 1699.64]  And I think despite how much I love Rune so far and, you know,
[1699.80 --> 1703.80]  the 2.0 release has been a little buggy and, you know, not perfect,
[1704.36 --> 1705.46]  a little rough around the edges,
[1705.46 --> 1709.74]  I just can't adopt a product that costs this much money
[1709.74 --> 1716.10]  and compromises on such a fundamental capability like that
[1716.10 --> 1719.60]  or of an offline self-hosted type product.
[1719.80 --> 1721.64]  It's just, I just can't.
[1722.06 --> 1723.58]  Yeah, that's a fairly, that's a fair point.
[1723.84 --> 1725.88]  Especially when you consider there's people out there that maybe
[1725.88 --> 1728.00]  they're on Starlink and they're having a bad day
[1728.00 --> 1730.84]  or they're on LTE and they're having a bad day and...
[1730.84 --> 1734.44]  Or they live in the third world and the entire island is connected
[1734.44 --> 1736.68]  through a single satellite type people.
[1737.26 --> 1741.10]  That surely is not a big part of Rune's core audience.
[1741.58 --> 1742.28]  Starlink customers.
[1742.74 --> 1744.14]  I could see the Starlink customers though.
[1744.26 --> 1745.62]  Starlink people are out there, you know.
[1745.74 --> 1746.80]  You know, the thing is, is like,
[1746.86 --> 1748.90]  it's sort of taking away one of the biggest advantages
[1748.90 --> 1751.52]  of you collecting all that stuff locally for so many years.
[1751.52 --> 1752.80]  And it's just...
[1752.80 --> 1755.06]  At that point, why not just have a Cobuzz subscription
[1755.06 --> 1756.02]  or a Tidal subscription?
[1756.26 --> 1760.80]  What value is Rune adding if I can't even, let's say, you know,
[1760.84 --> 1765.22]  one of my friend's dad's was, is out of power for like eight to ten days
[1765.22 --> 1768.24]  with Hurricane Ian a couple of weeks ago, you know.
[1769.38 --> 1769.78]  Yikes.
[1769.90 --> 1770.52]  It's just no good.
[1770.68 --> 1771.16]  It's no good.
[1771.56 --> 1772.44]  You know, for the pricing,
[1772.72 --> 1774.00]  especially if you were looking at server hardware,
[1774.46 --> 1776.94]  you could almost just afford to just buy sets of speakers
[1776.94 --> 1779.86]  for every single room and just put a dedicated hardware device on them
[1779.86 --> 1780.64]  and just call it good.
[1781.10 --> 1781.46]  Yeah.
[1782.92 --> 1785.86]  That's, it was, it does sound like it was really nice for a moment though.
[1785.86 --> 1788.20]  The alternative is Sonos, really,
[1788.40 --> 1790.68]  that's got this level of fit and finish and polish.
[1790.68 --> 1791.52]  And all the rest of it.
[1792.00 --> 1793.50]  But Sonos is just hardware.
[1793.94 --> 1797.08]  And as we talked about several episodes ago,
[1797.62 --> 1800.24]  when Sonos decide that a device is no longer supported,
[1800.44 --> 1802.74]  suddenly that perfectly good speaker cone
[1802.74 --> 1806.82]  and that perfectly good amplifier unit become a brick
[1806.82 --> 1809.04]  thanks to their business model, you know.
[1809.24 --> 1810.60]  And that's a thing.
[1811.18 --> 1811.80]  It's frustrating.
[1812.50 --> 1815.94]  So I think that the next one to look at is probably Volumio,
[1816.10 --> 1817.68]  although I've heard mixed reports about that.
[1817.68 --> 1820.52]  And I certainly don't expect the level of fit and finish I've seen from Rune.
[1820.94 --> 1823.28]  The other one to keep an eye on is Plexamp Headless.
[1823.50 --> 1825.76]  There's been some pretty good movement over there lately.
[1826.36 --> 1829.12]  I think they're working on multi-room audio stuff,
[1829.40 --> 1832.78]  but it won't have the Rune audio transport stuff.
[1832.94 --> 1835.50]  So I doubt it will be quite as polished again,
[1835.62 --> 1836.60]  but who knows?
[1836.76 --> 1838.24]  Who knows where this will go?
[1838.42 --> 1840.82]  But that's my review of Rune, people.
[1841.50 --> 1841.76]  Fascinating.
[1841.88 --> 1843.36]  Thank you for updating us on that.
[1843.44 --> 1846.86]  We've been getting a good series of feedback on multi-room audio.
[1846.96 --> 1848.16]  It's something people are trying to solve.
[1848.56 --> 1850.12]  And I know there's got to be somebody out there that's like,
[1850.18 --> 1852.92]  just get a Pi Zero, you know, or something like that.
[1853.06 --> 1854.74]  But do you really have time?
[1855.42 --> 1857.86]  Well, Rune, sorry to come back to Rune again,
[1857.94 --> 1861.50]  but I'm running one of the Playbacks devices.
[1861.50 --> 1865.58]  It's a Rue P, a Raspberry Pi running the Rune server.
[1865.70 --> 1865.98]  Right.
[1866.24 --> 1866.48]  Okay.
[1866.48 --> 1868.84]  So I am using Raspberry Pi as part of this as well.
[1869.16 --> 1873.70]  So, you know, maybe one day I'll find the perfect solution.
[1873.88 --> 1877.52]  But I think until Rune guarantee, I don't know,
[1878.30 --> 1881.66]  seven days before the core has to phone home again.
[1881.68 --> 1882.68]  It used to be 30 days.
[1882.74 --> 1886.34]  The grace period, by the way, with 1.8, which is the previous release,
[1886.82 --> 1889.28]  used to be 30 days, and now it's zero minutes.
[1890.98 --> 1892.16]  It's just a hard sell.
[1892.90 --> 1894.40]  Yeah, especially when you're paying 10 bucks a month.
[1894.40 --> 1899.00]  It feels like when you're paying for something like that that's using your own media,
[1899.96 --> 1901.30]  they should give you grace periods like that.
[1901.36 --> 1902.40]  30 days sounds about right.
[1903.48 --> 1904.16]  That's about it.
[1904.52 --> 1905.90]  You know, I'm going to be buying new gear soon.
[1906.58 --> 1908.30]  Cloudfree.shop is where I'll go to check it out.
[1908.56 --> 1909.16]  And you can too.
[1909.22 --> 1911.40]  If you use the promo code SSH, I think you get like a buck off.
[1912.64 --> 1913.60]  Lightswitch is coming soon.
[1913.82 --> 1914.98]  Cloudfree lightswitches.
[1915.66 --> 1917.08]  Lightswitches is definitely the way I want to go.
[1917.56 --> 1919.26]  And after we get to the feedback today,
[1919.98 --> 1921.62]  I think I'm going to be doubling down on Zigbee.
[1922.10 --> 1923.54]  I'll tell you more about that later, though.
[1923.54 --> 1925.28]  Cloudfree.shop.
[1925.72 --> 1927.12]  Promo code self-hosted.
[1927.42 --> 1931.12]  Yeah, one of my Shelleys just failed, actually, in the garage.
[1931.32 --> 1933.70]  The actual switch, the relay part still works.
[1934.04 --> 1936.28]  But when I flick the physical switch in the wall,
[1936.76 --> 1938.38]  which in the garage you do all the time,
[1939.36 --> 1940.28]  nothing happens.
[1940.42 --> 1941.92]  So I've no idea what's happened with that one.
[1942.18 --> 1942.44]  Bummer.
[1943.00 --> 1944.28]  It's kind of a pain that I'm about to take it out.
[1944.98 --> 1945.20]  You know?
[1945.24 --> 1945.52]  Yeah.
[1945.74 --> 1946.32]  Well, I'm looking.
[1946.70 --> 1948.46]  I was thinking about getting one of those zoo switches
[1948.46 --> 1950.02]  that we talked about last episode.
[1950.02 --> 1953.10]  But I don't want to go just C-wave just for a few light switches.
[1953.20 --> 1955.64]  I'd like to stay within the Zigbee universe.
[1955.88 --> 1958.92]  So if you have a good Zigbee switch recommendation,
[1959.42 --> 1961.92]  please let us know at self-hosted.show slash contact.
[1962.30 --> 1963.30]  Speaking of feedback,
[1964.04 --> 1966.42]  Docker versus LXC versus a VM.
[1966.56 --> 1968.00]  You teased it earlier in the show,
[1968.22 --> 1970.10]  and it's been a point of conversation recently.
[1970.60 --> 1970.72]  Yeah.
[1970.80 --> 1972.72]  Monkey Angst and I were talking on Discord,
[1972.72 --> 1974.76]  and he wrote in saying,
[1974.84 --> 1977.02]  I'm trying to decide between using an LXC
[1977.02 --> 1979.46]  or another containerization technology.
[1979.96 --> 1982.36]  What are you using these days, Alex, and why?
[1982.88 --> 1985.86]  Well, the short answer is Docker,
[1986.20 --> 1987.38]  and Docker and more Docker,
[1988.08 --> 1989.86]  plus some virtualization,
[1990.96 --> 1992.76]  and I think that's a...
[1992.76 --> 1994.50]  Oh, and I suppose in the cloud, too,
[1994.54 --> 1995.52]  there's a couple of things up there.
[1996.00 --> 1997.52]  Most of that stuff's running in Docker, too.
[1998.04 --> 1999.36]  And I'm just going to, you know,
[1999.50 --> 2000.76]  preface everything I'm about to say
[2000.76 --> 2003.38]  by saying that it's personal choice,
[2003.56 --> 2006.18]  and there's more than one way
[2006.18 --> 2008.80]  to skin a particular cat in this arena.
[2009.30 --> 2011.92]  The way I do it is I run everything in Docker
[2011.92 --> 2014.66]  because Docker Compose is awesome.
[2015.38 --> 2017.20]  It's a great way to manage your personal systems.
[2017.58 --> 2018.58]  It's a great way to separate,
[2019.10 --> 2020.70]  without really having to do much of anything,
[2021.16 --> 2023.54]  separate out the application and the data.
[2023.64 --> 2025.16]  And just from a system-building standpoint,
[2025.68 --> 2027.12]  that is a great design practice,
[2027.12 --> 2029.62]  and Docker just gives it to you as a general practice.
[2030.40 --> 2032.30]  And the other thing about LXCs to consider
[2032.30 --> 2034.98]  is that the benefits of them
[2034.98 --> 2037.00]  is that it gives you an init system.
[2037.30 --> 2038.32]  So for those that aren't familiar,
[2038.48 --> 2040.18]  an init system is something like systemd.
[2040.98 --> 2042.86]  With a typical Docker container
[2042.86 --> 2044.46]  or some kind of other Linux container,
[2044.62 --> 2048.24]  what happens is the main process inside that container
[2048.24 --> 2050.82]  gets given PID1, process ID1.
[2051.54 --> 2055.26]  And when that PID dies, the container dies with it.
[2055.26 --> 2057.38]  The same, by the way, is true of your Linux server
[2057.38 --> 2060.44]  or your Linux desktop or whatever you're running Linux on.
[2060.80 --> 2062.98]  When PID1 dies, the system dies,
[2063.06 --> 2065.66]  and typically that PID1 is systemd these days.
[2066.44 --> 2072.10]  In an LXC, what happens is you get an init system like systemd.
[2072.94 --> 2075.92]  My biggest gripe with LXC generally,
[2076.12 --> 2077.16]  and there's two really,
[2077.16 --> 2080.12]  one is that it's an extra layer of complexity
[2080.12 --> 2082.04]  that not that many people are using.
[2082.18 --> 2085.00]  Some people in our self-hosted community are using it,
[2085.22 --> 2087.22]  but generally it's on the fringes
[2087.22 --> 2088.42]  compared to the number of people
[2088.42 --> 2089.90]  that are using Docker containers.
[2090.56 --> 2093.78]  The second thing is that running more than one process
[2093.78 --> 2095.90]  in an isolated environment like that
[2095.90 --> 2098.36]  is a bit of an anti-pattern.
[2098.50 --> 2099.52]  And the reason I say that
[2099.52 --> 2101.46]  is because containers are designed
[2101.46 --> 2104.38]  to be this black box almost
[2104.38 --> 2107.30]  of just a single block with a single purpose.
[2108.04 --> 2109.10]  And if you start trying to run
[2109.10 --> 2111.30]  more than one service inside that container,
[2111.56 --> 2113.52]  so let's say systemd plus a web server,
[2114.04 --> 2115.52]  on the face of it,
[2115.58 --> 2117.78]  you're only running one service, right?
[2117.82 --> 2118.42]  A web server.
[2118.62 --> 2119.70]  But actually you're running two,
[2119.82 --> 2122.22]  you're running an init system plus a web server,
[2122.38 --> 2123.64]  which is a whole bunch of overhead
[2123.64 --> 2124.72]  that you A, don't need,
[2125.10 --> 2127.06]  and B, technically speaking,
[2127.20 --> 2128.84]  is, like I said, a bit of an anti-pattern.
[2128.84 --> 2132.40]  And so the other thing it gives you is some issues,
[2132.54 --> 2134.06]  well not issues, it's not the right word,
[2134.14 --> 2137.66]  but added complexity around passing hardware through.
[2137.80 --> 2139.44]  So like QuickSync, for example,
[2139.52 --> 2141.38]  which I think is what we talked about earlier in the show.
[2141.94 --> 2144.92]  If you're running QuickSync in a Docker container,
[2145.10 --> 2148.66]  it's a couple of lines to pass through the render device.
[2149.44 --> 2151.78]  To QuickSync, running in Plex or whatever,
[2152.94 --> 2153.76]  it's no big deal.
[2154.08 --> 2156.46]  With LXC, there can be some compatibility issues.
[2156.80 --> 2157.62]  It's a similar thing,
[2157.62 --> 2158.72]  you've got to pass it through,
[2159.32 --> 2160.06]  but there,
[2160.26 --> 2162.96]  I can never remember if it has a distinct lock
[2162.96 --> 2166.82]  on the GPU once you pass it through to an LXC or not,
[2166.86 --> 2168.72]  so somebody in the chat could update in real time,
[2168.80 --> 2169.78]  I'd appreciate it.
[2170.34 --> 2172.06]  But then the other thing you've got to consider is,
[2172.16 --> 2173.80]  if you want to run multiple services
[2173.80 --> 2176.04]  in one isolated environment,
[2176.90 --> 2179.58]  that's exactly what a VM has been designed to do.
[2180.22 --> 2183.42]  The tooling around VMs is extremely mature at this point.
[2183.42 --> 2184.62]  They're very,
[2184.78 --> 2185.72]  very well understood.
[2186.88 --> 2188.60]  And I don't know,
[2188.76 --> 2193.12]  LXCs for me fall into this awkward middle ground
[2193.12 --> 2196.04]  of not quite knowing who they're for.
[2196.54 --> 2198.20]  It's not to say they're a bad technology,
[2198.20 --> 2201.86]  because I think LXCs do have their place.
[2202.56 --> 2202.90]  Just,
[2203.86 --> 2204.52]  they just don't,
[2204.88 --> 2206.14]  in my world personally,
[2206.58 --> 2206.88]  you know?
[2207.60 --> 2207.78]  Yeah,
[2207.86 --> 2208.00]  well,
[2208.08 --> 2208.18]  and,
[2208.24 --> 2208.66]  you know,
[2208.70 --> 2210.18]  I think they're also a little more popular
[2210.18 --> 2212.42]  in the Ubuntu ecosystem as well,
[2212.52 --> 2214.80]  which is probably just not as prevalent
[2214.80 --> 2216.00]  in the North America area.
[2216.26 --> 2216.48]  So,
[2216.62 --> 2218.20]  I think there's that element as well.
[2218.56 --> 2219.58]  I like what you're saying,
[2219.62 --> 2219.70]  though,
[2219.70 --> 2220.22]  about VMs,
[2220.22 --> 2222.00]  just to step back a little bit there.
[2222.24 --> 2224.02]  Your point about the VM
[2224.02 --> 2225.26]  is sometimes the right tooling,
[2225.34 --> 2227.08]  people shouldn't feel bad about it,
[2227.10 --> 2228.92]  I think is underscored by the fact
[2228.92 --> 2231.14]  that VM performance,
[2231.38 --> 2232.14]  it's like,
[2232.30 --> 2234.44]  it's not your grandpa's VM anymore.
[2234.44 --> 2235.86]  On modern hardware,
[2236.06 --> 2237.76]  with modern virtualization software,
[2238.16 --> 2240.06]  VMs can be extremely performant,
[2240.14 --> 2241.90]  way better than they were
[2241.90 --> 2242.74]  when we were emulating
[2242.74 --> 2243.90]  the entire hardware stack.
[2243.98 --> 2244.66]  Because these days,
[2245.02 --> 2246.02]  not only do we have
[2246.02 --> 2247.42]  para-virtualized devices,
[2247.72 --> 2248.88]  but there's also just been
[2248.88 --> 2250.00]  a lot of plumbing in the kernel
[2250.00 --> 2252.62]  to get virtual driver requests
[2252.62 --> 2253.54]  to the physical hardware
[2253.54 --> 2254.60]  so much faster than,
[2254.78 --> 2255.00]  you know,
[2255.36 --> 2256.76]  they were even four or five years ago.
[2257.04 --> 2257.30]  Exactly.
[2257.44 --> 2257.62]  I mean,
[2257.62 --> 2259.14]  you think about all those cloud servers
[2259.14 --> 2261.46]  that are running virtualized stacks,
[2261.78 --> 2264.06]  a lot of that investment trickles down.
[2264.44 --> 2266.20]  to us mere mortals,
[2266.32 --> 2266.48]  you know,
[2266.54 --> 2267.32]  a lot of those improvements
[2267.32 --> 2268.70]  end up in the kernel
[2268.70 --> 2269.60]  one way or another.
[2270.32 --> 2270.56]  So yeah,
[2270.58 --> 2271.66]  the other thing we didn't talk about
[2271.66 --> 2273.08]  at all yet is Podman.
[2273.68 --> 2276.44]  And I know being a Red Hatter,
[2276.54 --> 2278.28]  I should probably be a bit more pro-Podman,
[2278.44 --> 2279.68]  but for me,
[2279.74 --> 2282.72]  the tooling's just still not quite there yet.
[2282.84 --> 2283.04]  You know,
[2283.10 --> 2285.16]  I rely on Compose all the time
[2285.16 --> 2287.56]  for interacting with all of my services.
[2287.56 --> 2290.14]  And I know Podman Compose exists
[2290.14 --> 2291.46]  and I've tried it several times,
[2291.60 --> 2292.94]  but it's still just,
[2293.16 --> 2293.94]  it's not 100%.
[2293.94 --> 2294.78]  It's not quite there.
[2295.22 --> 2295.34]  Yeah.
[2295.54 --> 2297.84]  It's like 90% or so,
[2297.94 --> 2298.86]  but it's not 100%.
[2298.86 --> 2300.06]  I have the same opinion.
[2300.46 --> 2302.72]  I feel like Podman is a better design,
[2302.98 --> 2304.04]  system architecturally.
[2304.26 --> 2305.34]  It feels cleaner.
[2305.74 --> 2307.24]  It feels more native as well.
[2307.56 --> 2308.02]  But then again,
[2308.02 --> 2309.46]  you have like monsters in our chat room
[2309.46 --> 2311.00]  that are running Docker in LXE.
[2311.00 --> 2311.70]  Oh my goodness.
[2312.18 --> 2312.34]  Well,
[2312.36 --> 2314.92]  you can run Docker in Docker in Docker in VM.
[2314.92 --> 2315.18]  Right.
[2315.78 --> 2317.34]  These are the people
[2317.34 --> 2318.72]  that show up to our live stream jobs.
[2318.72 --> 2318.82]  Yeah,
[2318.84 --> 2319.26]  right.
[2320.70 --> 2321.92]  So the tip of the iceberg.
[2323.86 --> 2324.22]  Yeah,
[2324.24 --> 2324.74]  there you go.
[2325.18 --> 2325.96]  Very interesting.
[2326.04 --> 2326.66]  I'd love also to hear
[2326.66 --> 2327.68]  other people's opinions on it too.
[2327.74 --> 2329.58]  So do feel free to go to the contact page
[2329.58 --> 2330.30]  or send us a boost.
[2330.54 --> 2332.06]  There was discussion going on on Reddit
[2332.06 --> 2333.80]  that I wanted to just kind of touch on
[2333.80 --> 2335.56]  because I have a lot of thoughts on this,
[2335.56 --> 2337.18]  but I had something I think is actionable.
[2337.74 --> 2338.86]  And the question is,
[2339.72 --> 2340.02]  and Alex,
[2340.10 --> 2341.18]  I liked this question a lot
[2341.18 --> 2342.60]  because it's being honest with themselves.
[2343.02 --> 2343.64]  And I think it's something
[2343.64 --> 2345.10]  all of us self-hosters should think about.
[2345.92 --> 2347.20]  How do I prepare for a time
[2347.20 --> 2349.36]  when I'm just tired of tinkering with Home Assistant?
[2349.52 --> 2350.78]  That's the question that was on Reddit.
[2351.12 --> 2351.72]  And I love it
[2351.72 --> 2352.94]  because it's like this guy writes,
[2353.16 --> 2355.28]  I've used Home Assistant for the last six months
[2355.28 --> 2357.16]  and I've had a blast tinkering with the platform.
[2357.46 --> 2358.64]  I've got a hundred plus devices.
[2358.80 --> 2359.94]  Everything is working as intended.
[2360.18 --> 2361.60]  And I know from experience,
[2361.74 --> 2362.52]  there'll come a time
[2362.52 --> 2364.50]  when I just don't find home automation
[2364.50 --> 2365.60]  as flattering anymore,
[2366.00 --> 2367.24]  but I'll still need my lights
[2367.24 --> 2368.62]  and whatnot to function properly.
[2369.10 --> 2371.06]  So how do I prepare for this day?
[2372.18 --> 2373.80]  This is really,
[2374.06 --> 2376.68]  I need to take this advice in as well.
[2376.78 --> 2378.70]  Now, I've always remained pretty fascinated.
[2379.28 --> 2380.26]  Home Assistant moves quick.
[2380.36 --> 2381.30]  The community moves quick.
[2381.46 --> 2382.62]  It hasn't lost my attention,
[2383.40 --> 2384.78]  but things have.
[2385.44 --> 2386.10]  And, you know,
[2386.24 --> 2387.28]  as geeks,
[2387.34 --> 2388.22]  I think we're just kind of prone
[2388.22 --> 2389.72]  to the new shiny sometimes as well.
[2390.58 --> 2392.10]  Do you have any hot tips
[2392.10 --> 2394.04]  on how to like prepare your infrastructure
[2394.04 --> 2395.46]  for when you are bored with it?
[2395.56 --> 2396.86]  Do you have anything off the top of your mind?
[2396.86 --> 2399.12]  Don't get bored at the time
[2399.12 --> 2400.08]  where it's broken.
[2402.16 --> 2403.10]  I don't know.
[2403.18 --> 2404.42]  It's such a hard question
[2404.42 --> 2406.48]  because I'm aware
[2406.48 --> 2408.54]  that the raindrop of inspiration
[2408.54 --> 2410.14]  in the desert
[2410.14 --> 2412.18]  of computer,
[2412.42 --> 2413.14]  you know,
[2413.22 --> 2414.18]  there's several things
[2414.18 --> 2415.28]  have to line up
[2415.28 --> 2415.86]  in order for me
[2415.86 --> 2416.74]  to be interested enough
[2416.74 --> 2417.72]  to tinker with something.
[2418.24 --> 2419.58]  I have to have enough free time
[2419.58 --> 2420.60]  in my mind
[2420.60 --> 2422.26]  and I always underestimate
[2422.26 --> 2423.46]  how long something's going to take.
[2423.92 --> 2425.66]  So if I think it's going to take four hours,
[2425.74 --> 2426.94]  I know I've got to estimate
[2426.94 --> 2428.38]  I've got to have a whole day free.
[2429.06 --> 2430.36]  And if it's quicker than that,
[2430.44 --> 2430.64]  great.
[2430.76 --> 2430.96]  I mean,
[2430.98 --> 2432.48]  that's often not the case
[2432.48 --> 2433.04]  with Home Assistant,
[2433.28 --> 2434.60]  but sometimes it is.
[2435.22 --> 2436.38]  Probably the best advice
[2436.38 --> 2437.04]  I can give,
[2437.20 --> 2439.80]  and it's not terribly wisdomful,
[2439.92 --> 2441.82]  but it's just try and break down
[2441.82 --> 2444.16]  the things you're trying to accomplish
[2444.16 --> 2446.20]  into small tasks,
[2446.20 --> 2447.88]  small batches of stuff.
[2448.46 --> 2449.60]  Let's say you want to get
[2449.60 --> 2450.46]  a specific room
[2450.46 --> 2451.72]  behaving a certain way
[2451.72 --> 2452.42]  or you want to get
[2452.42 --> 2453.44]  just a couple of new lights
[2453.44 --> 2454.16]  added or something.
[2455.38 --> 2456.32]  And try not to leave
[2456.32 --> 2457.76]  anything half finished
[2457.76 --> 2459.20]  when you go to sleep
[2459.20 --> 2459.80]  or something like that.
[2459.82 --> 2460.98]  I know it's not always possible
[2460.98 --> 2462.82]  because, you know,
[2462.84 --> 2463.62]  I'll wake up tomorrow
[2463.62 --> 2464.36]  and my interests
[2464.36 --> 2465.58]  will be in cars tomorrow,
[2465.72 --> 2466.44]  not Home Assistant
[2466.44 --> 2467.24]  or what, you know,
[2467.30 --> 2467.78]  how it is.
[2468.78 --> 2470.22]  And for me,
[2470.30 --> 2471.56]  leaving stuff half done
[2471.56 --> 2472.30]  when I go to sleep
[2472.30 --> 2472.88]  is the enemy
[2472.88 --> 2474.22]  because, A,
[2474.26 --> 2475.54]  I've loaded it into context,
[2475.54 --> 2477.22]  like in my personal RAM buffer
[2477.22 --> 2477.62]  or whatever,
[2478.20 --> 2479.64]  and loading it back in again
[2479.64 --> 2481.00]  is going to take a long time,
[2481.22 --> 2481.56]  typically.
[2482.40 --> 2483.74]  Sometimes going for a walk
[2483.74 --> 2484.50]  or whatever, you know,
[2484.52 --> 2485.64]  can be the solution.
[2486.36 --> 2486.90]  We've also got to get
[2486.90 --> 2487.82]  the motivation program
[2487.82 --> 2488.58]  running again too.
[2488.66 --> 2489.84]  So it's not just the context
[2489.84 --> 2490.42]  and the data
[2490.42 --> 2491.04]  and the state,
[2491.12 --> 2491.58]  but it's also,
[2491.68 --> 2492.74]  you've got to get motivated again.
[2492.96 --> 2494.72]  Also, the caffeination station
[2494.72 --> 2495.98]  has to be fired up too,
[2496.22 --> 2496.62]  you know.
[2497.40 --> 2499.40]  So, yeah, you know,
[2499.78 --> 2500.22]  essentially,
[2500.58 --> 2501.84]  just break things down
[2501.84 --> 2503.60]  into atomic blocks, really.
[2503.60 --> 2504.96]  Yeah, and complete it
[2504.96 --> 2505.84]  one room at a time
[2505.84 --> 2506.88]  and complete it
[2506.88 --> 2508.12]  as much as you can.
[2508.82 --> 2509.18]  That's a great,
[2509.24 --> 2510.00]  and that's a great tip.
[2510.26 --> 2511.44]  Yeah, and I find that helps
[2511.44 --> 2512.48]  with motivation too
[2512.48 --> 2513.80]  because if you actually think,
[2514.30 --> 2514.98]  right, I've done that
[2514.98 --> 2516.96]  and it works as intended,
[2517.44 --> 2518.96]  next time, you know,
[2519.04 --> 2519.42]  you'll be like,
[2519.48 --> 2520.04]  oh, well, yeah,
[2520.06 --> 2520.96]  I actually achieved
[2520.96 --> 2521.88]  what I set out to do
[2521.88 --> 2523.60]  and it can be a self-perpetuate,
[2524.28 --> 2525.42]  self-fulfilling cycle
[2525.42 --> 2526.00]  of improvement.
[2526.38 --> 2527.14]  I think that's probably
[2527.14 --> 2528.66]  how I should probably attack
[2528.66 --> 2529.36]  like the rebuild
[2529.36 --> 2530.66]  of the sensors
[2530.66 --> 2531.28]  and all the switches
[2531.28 --> 2532.20]  and stuff in jupes.
[2532.48 --> 2533.22]  It's probably just
[2533.22 --> 2533.92]  one room at a time
[2533.92 --> 2534.68]  and it'll, you know,
[2534.82 --> 2535.48]  it'll go quick.
[2535.80 --> 2537.48]  Also, you are your own
[2537.48 --> 2538.08]  worst enemy.
[2538.54 --> 2540.40]  Write this down.
[2540.70 --> 2541.84]  Document your crap
[2541.84 --> 2543.30]  because you will forget.
[2543.44 --> 2544.24]  You think you won't,
[2544.70 --> 2545.76]  you think you remember it,
[2546.06 --> 2546.92]  but trust me,
[2547.26 --> 2547.98]  you won't.
[2548.40 --> 2549.28]  You gotta write it down.
[2549.82 --> 2550.58]  Absolutely agree.
[2550.84 --> 2551.42]  Absolutely agree.
[2551.74 --> 2553.04]  I have one bit of wisdom
[2553.04 --> 2553.90]  from my whole,
[2554.02 --> 2554.68]  my home assistant's
[2554.68 --> 2555.42]  been unavailable
[2555.42 --> 2556.42]  and this is what this guy
[2556.42 --> 2556.88]  is worried about.
[2556.94 --> 2557.74]  Like, it would crash
[2557.74 --> 2558.50]  and he just wouldn't have
[2558.50 --> 2559.52]  the motivation to fix it.
[2559.52 --> 2561.06]  This is something
[2561.06 --> 2562.00]  you can do in Z-Wave,
[2562.12 --> 2563.26]  but I read how to do it
[2563.26 --> 2563.88]  in Zigbee
[2563.88 --> 2565.18]  and this seems like
[2565.18 --> 2566.22]  the thing to do.
[2566.32 --> 2568.28]  It's called device binding.
[2569.14 --> 2570.46]  So you can bind
[2570.46 --> 2571.68]  a light switch
[2571.68 --> 2573.06]  to a particular light,
[2573.12 --> 2573.62]  for example.
[2574.24 --> 2574.88]  You can bind
[2574.88 --> 2576.18]  two Zigbee devices together
[2576.18 --> 2577.06]  so they can control
[2577.06 --> 2577.58]  each other
[2577.58 --> 2579.34]  without the central coordinator.
[2579.92 --> 2580.18]  So they,
[2580.34 --> 2580.90]  as long as they're both
[2580.90 --> 2581.40]  on the network
[2581.40 --> 2582.16]  and both devices
[2582.16 --> 2583.06]  support binding,
[2583.66 --> 2585.36]  you can have them
[2585.36 --> 2585.98]  operate
[2585.98 --> 2587.66]  without home assistant
[2587.66 --> 2588.28]  even running.
[2588.28 --> 2589.66]  And this is incredible
[2589.66 --> 2590.46]  because it means like
[2590.46 --> 2591.36]  all of like your switches
[2591.36 --> 2591.92]  and buttons
[2591.92 --> 2593.56]  and those types of things
[2593.56 --> 2594.72]  continue to work
[2594.72 --> 2596.44]  even if your server's crashed.
[2596.82 --> 2597.98]  And so this is definitely
[2597.98 --> 2599.30]  something I want to look into
[2599.30 --> 2600.72]  for at least a few core devices,
[2600.88 --> 2602.30]  like switches to turn lights
[2602.30 --> 2602.94]  on and off.
[2603.62 --> 2604.78]  Those always need to work.
[2604.98 --> 2606.44]  And I don't really have
[2606.44 --> 2606.92]  the flexibility
[2606.92 --> 2608.06]  to like open it up
[2608.06 --> 2609.14]  and like install a Shelby
[2609.14 --> 2609.50]  in the,
[2609.84 --> 2610.64]  or Shelly in the wall
[2610.64 --> 2612.30]  because my walls
[2612.30 --> 2613.74]  are like two inches thick.
[2615.02 --> 2615.62]  They're thinner
[2615.62 --> 2616.44]  than the Shelly is.
[2616.44 --> 2618.14]  So I have to go
[2618.14 --> 2619.28]  with the soft button route,
[2619.38 --> 2619.84]  which means when
[2619.84 --> 2620.62]  home assistant's down,
[2621.04 --> 2621.76]  no light switches,
[2622.30 --> 2623.30]  which is crazy.
[2623.58 --> 2624.52]  Just absolutely crazy.
[2624.90 --> 2626.14]  And so something like binding
[2626.14 --> 2627.60]  would keep it working
[2627.60 --> 2628.90]  and give you the time
[2628.90 --> 2629.94]  to continue to operate
[2629.94 --> 2630.56]  your stuff
[2630.56 --> 2633.30]  without having to actually
[2633.30 --> 2634.14]  get the server up and running.
[2634.20 --> 2635.10]  And they have groups
[2635.10 --> 2636.80]  and all kinds of stuff.
[2636.98 --> 2638.06]  And I've read that people
[2638.06 --> 2638.98]  also get this working
[2638.98 --> 2640.06]  with their Philips Hue's
[2640.06 --> 2640.92]  so you can use binding
[2640.92 --> 2642.04]  with the Hue's lights as well.
[2642.72 --> 2643.22]  I'll have a link
[2643.22 --> 2643.74]  in the show notes
[2643.74 --> 2644.78]  for more information
[2644.78 --> 2645.84]  about binding.
[2645.84 --> 2645.90]  Right.
[2646.20 --> 2647.28]  Adopt technologies
[2647.28 --> 2648.76]  that you own
[2648.76 --> 2650.54]  the firmware of.
[2650.94 --> 2651.12]  You know,
[2651.22 --> 2652.76]  Tasmotor is a great example.
[2653.78 --> 2654.80]  Don't rely on a
[2654.80 --> 2656.06]  cloud-based service.
[2656.20 --> 2656.36]  You know,
[2656.40 --> 2657.40]  buy the right hardware,
[2657.56 --> 2658.32]  all that kind of stuff.
[2658.46 --> 2659.94]  Try and buy
[2659.94 --> 2660.96]  with the idea
[2660.96 --> 2662.00]  that you want it
[2662.00 --> 2662.78]  to just keep working
[2662.78 --> 2663.50]  until the hardware
[2663.50 --> 2665.22]  physically stops working
[2665.22 --> 2666.56]  would be a great idea.
[2666.92 --> 2668.40]  I like the chatroom.
[2668.78 --> 2669.64]  Serverless IoT.
[2670.34 --> 2670.78]  Nice.
[2671.02 --> 2671.62]  It is kind of,
[2671.68 --> 2671.90]  isn't it?
[2671.90 --> 2672.38]  You're right, Aaron.
[2672.90 --> 2673.56]  That's pretty cool.
[2674.12 --> 2674.96]  We got some boosts
[2674.96 --> 2675.50]  into the show.
[2675.66 --> 2676.40]  Check out this.
[2676.92 --> 2677.36]  Irrero?
[2678.56 --> 2678.92]  Irrero?
[2679.26 --> 2680.30]  I'm so sorry, dude.
[2680.92 --> 2681.24]  Irrero.
[2682.92 --> 2684.88]  135,000 sats
[2684.88 --> 2685.88]  was sent into the show
[2685.88 --> 2686.30]  this week.
[2686.40 --> 2687.34]  Holy moly.
[2687.42 --> 2687.86]  I know.
[2688.06 --> 2688.34]  In fact,
[2688.34 --> 2689.14]  I'm going to buy a boat.
[2689.58 --> 2690.64]  That put us on the hot list.
[2690.82 --> 2691.36]  So in Fountain,
[2691.76 --> 2692.40]  you know,
[2692.46 --> 2693.18]  highly boosted shows,
[2693.22 --> 2694.10]  I believe it was this boost,
[2694.22 --> 2695.36]  put self-hosted
[2695.36 --> 2696.54]  on the hot list
[2696.54 --> 2697.72]  and new people find the show.
[2697.82 --> 2698.30]  So when you send
[2698.30 --> 2699.10]  a big boost in,
[2699.88 --> 2701.42]  the show trends
[2701.42 --> 2702.88]  and the people discover us.
[2703.16 --> 2703.76]  It's really great.
[2704.14 --> 2705.92]  So Irrero writes,
[2706.36 --> 2707.70]  Irrero writes,
[2707.88 --> 2709.30]  it's not a million dollars,
[2709.38 --> 2710.20]  but these are all
[2710.20 --> 2711.10]  the sats I have.
[2711.52 --> 2712.58]  I'm currently thinking
[2712.58 --> 2713.18]  of automating
[2713.18 --> 2714.40]  the lighting around my flat
[2714.40 --> 2715.44]  and I'm unable to pick
[2715.44 --> 2716.48]  between smart lights
[2716.48 --> 2717.72]  or smart switches.
[2718.32 --> 2719.12]  What are the pros
[2719.12 --> 2720.48]  and cons of each one?
[2720.88 --> 2722.24]  Thanks, Alex, Chris and Brent.
[2722.96 --> 2724.48]  Fairly easy answer, actually.
[2724.86 --> 2726.84]  Switches mean that your bulbs
[2726.84 --> 2728.08]  stay powered all the time
[2728.08 --> 2728.72]  and you can,
[2729.12 --> 2731.10]  so you can control the switch
[2731.10 --> 2733.42]  that you retain physical control
[2733.42 --> 2734.00]  of the switch
[2734.00 --> 2736.64]  and you also gain
[2736.64 --> 2738.88]  the ability to control
[2738.88 --> 2740.56]  that switch remotely as well.
[2740.82 --> 2741.92]  Whereas if you just go
[2741.92 --> 2742.76]  for a smart bulb
[2742.76 --> 2743.78]  and someone turns
[2743.78 --> 2744.66]  the light switch off,
[2745.14 --> 2745.44]  uh-oh,
[2745.44 --> 2746.78]  you're out of luck.
[2747.04 --> 2748.68]  Yeah, and it's also
[2748.68 --> 2749.86]  just way more approachable
[2749.86 --> 2751.02]  by every other single human
[2751.02 --> 2751.94]  on the face of the planet.
[2752.48 --> 2753.44]  And so if you have anybody else
[2753.44 --> 2753.84]  that's going to be
[2753.84 --> 2754.76]  in the space with you,
[2755.90 --> 2757.50]  what I literally have
[2757.50 --> 2758.08]  on my switches
[2758.08 --> 2758.84]  here in the studio,
[2759.04 --> 2760.44]  I have tape over them
[2760.44 --> 2760.86]  that says,
[2760.92 --> 2761.96]  no touch,
[2762.22 --> 2762.66]  because,
[2763.30 --> 2763.86]  like,
[2764.18 --> 2765.22]  people just flip light switches
[2765.22 --> 2765.70]  all the time.
[2765.76 --> 2766.44]  And it still happens
[2766.44 --> 2767.76]  when we have a meetup
[2767.76 --> 2768.56]  here at the studio,
[2768.76 --> 2769.40]  inevitably,
[2770.12 --> 2770.68]  like a listener
[2770.68 --> 2771.42]  will just walk out
[2771.42 --> 2771.82]  of the studio
[2771.82 --> 2773.24]  and they'll just instinctively
[2773.24 --> 2774.22]  flip the light switch off.
[2774.22 --> 2774.84]  You know,
[2774.92 --> 2775.60]  they'll even flip it
[2775.60 --> 2776.10]  right through the tape.
[2776.54 --> 2777.88]  Read the FM, huh?
[2778.84 --> 2779.20]  What?
[2779.44 --> 2779.98]  What is it?
[2780.56 --> 2780.92]  RTFM.
[2781.42 --> 2781.64]  Oh.
[2781.98 --> 2783.26]  Even if it's just a bit of tape
[2783.26 --> 2784.02]  on the light switch,
[2784.10 --> 2784.24]  you know,
[2784.26 --> 2785.00]  you've got an RTFM.
[2785.14 --> 2785.96]  Yeah, that's true.
[2786.38 --> 2786.98]  Read the tape.
[2787.72 --> 2789.14]  Prozac boosted with 1200 sats.
[2789.22 --> 2789.90]  Just thanking Alex
[2789.90 --> 2791.28]  for sharing your secret sauce.
[2791.84 --> 2792.38]  And so I thought,
[2792.48 --> 2793.38]  just in case people missed it
[2793.38 --> 2794.12]  last episode,
[2794.22 --> 2794.84]  we should probably
[2794.84 --> 2796.26]  put the Badger stack link
[2796.26 --> 2797.86]  in the show notes
[2797.86 --> 2798.52]  for an overview
[2798.52 --> 2799.64]  of Alex's setup.
[2800.04 --> 2800.92]  People have been liking that.
[2800.92 --> 2804.18]  PA or PageDot boosted in
[2804.18 --> 2806.76]  with 3,333 sats.
[2807.08 --> 2807.22]  He says,
[2807.60 --> 2807.78]  Hi,
[2807.94 --> 2808.60]  please take a look
[2808.60 --> 2809.86]  at the Funk Whale project.
[2810.06 --> 2811.52]  It's a federated music service
[2811.52 --> 2812.42]  with a great GUI,
[2812.72 --> 2813.44]  active development,
[2813.80 --> 2814.80]  a subsonic API,
[2815.42 --> 2815.90]  mobile app,
[2816.22 --> 2817.30]  and financial support.
[2817.70 --> 2818.88]  I use it without the federation
[2818.88 --> 2820.06]  for my personal library,
[2820.18 --> 2820.90]  but I really like it
[2820.90 --> 2822.18]  because they really managed
[2822.18 --> 2823.40]  to keep me up to date
[2823.40 --> 2824.78]  and involve the community
[2824.78 --> 2825.44]  in their decisions
[2825.44 --> 2827.24]  I just wanted to share.
[2827.24 --> 2829.22]  So I went and looked at it
[2829.22 --> 2830.74]  super quick
[2830.74 --> 2832.06]  and I'm going to put this
[2832.06 --> 2832.74]  on my checkout.
[2832.96 --> 2833.82]  This and Jellyfin,
[2833.96 --> 2834.38]  which I realize
[2834.38 --> 2835.20]  are not quite the same,
[2835.70 --> 2836.74]  but Jellyfin's,
[2836.78 --> 2837.80]  the Jellyamp app
[2837.80 --> 2838.68]  that people are working on
[2838.68 --> 2840.20]  and this Funk Whale,
[2840.34 --> 2841.42]  I think could be great solutions
[2841.42 --> 2842.72]  for my music use
[2842.72 --> 2843.50]  because I'm not so much
[2843.50 --> 2845.04]  looking for a whole home sync
[2845.04 --> 2847.20]  so much as I am just
[2847.20 --> 2847.86]  looking for something
[2847.86 --> 2848.76]  that could expose
[2848.76 --> 2849.96]  a local music collection
[2849.96 --> 2850.56]  to me in a way
[2850.56 --> 2851.34]  that I could consume
[2851.34 --> 2852.74]  when I want to listen
[2852.74 --> 2853.50]  mostly in the car
[2853.50 --> 2855.52]  or on HomePods.
[2855.90 --> 2856.76]  Funk Whale's really nice.
[2856.76 --> 2858.20]  Funk Whale.audio.
[2858.56 --> 2859.36]  Are you familiar with it, Alex?
[2859.70 --> 2861.30]  I tried it out once
[2861.30 --> 2862.28]  a few months ago
[2862.28 --> 2863.66]  and then just for some reason
[2863.66 --> 2864.30]  it didn't stick.
[2864.54 --> 2865.30]  Can't remember why.
[2865.84 --> 2866.48]  If I might interrupt
[2866.48 --> 2867.40]  the boosts for a second,
[2867.50 --> 2868.74]  we're having a live question
[2868.74 --> 2869.94]  in the chat room.
[2870.02 --> 2870.48]  Breaking news.
[2870.50 --> 2871.96]  What is the boost address?
[2872.12 --> 2872.42]  We've got
[2872.42 --> 2873.66]  jupiterbroadcasting.com
[2873.66 --> 2874.40]  slash boost,
[2874.54 --> 2875.16]  but then what?
[2875.42 --> 2875.90]  Pew, pew, pew!
[2876.52 --> 2877.84]  So you need a new podcast app
[2877.84 --> 2879.68]  because it's an RSS feed-based thing.
[2879.92 --> 2880.86]  So it's in the,
[2880.86 --> 2882.34]  the boost address
[2882.34 --> 2883.60]  is in the RSS feed.
[2883.68 --> 2884.74]  So you get a new podcast app
[2884.74 --> 2886.62]  and that reads
[2886.62 --> 2887.74]  that RSS tag
[2887.74 --> 2889.32]  and then automatically
[2889.32 --> 2889.98]  adds a button
[2889.98 --> 2890.92]  to your playback screen.
[2891.12 --> 2891.80]  There's also
[2891.80 --> 2892.92]  a browser extension
[2892.92 --> 2893.44]  which I was actually
[2893.44 --> 2894.20]  going to suggest to you
[2894.20 --> 2895.08]  after the show, Alex,
[2895.44 --> 2897.04]  called Alby, A-L-B-Y.
[2897.68 --> 2898.82]  And that lets you do it
[2898.82 --> 2899.96]  in a browser-based environment.
[2900.54 --> 2901.14]  And the reason
[2901.14 --> 2901.98]  I was going to mention it to you
[2901.98 --> 2902.54]  is they've launched
[2902.54 --> 2903.22]  a new platform
[2903.22 --> 2904.04]  called Saturn.
[2904.04 --> 2904.24]  Saturn.
[2905.56 --> 2907.52]  And I think it's like,
[2907.98 --> 2909.32]  I don't know for sure, actually.
[2909.40 --> 2910.14]  I have to look at it,
[2910.14 --> 2911.04]  but I think it's,
[2911.04 --> 2911.46]  it's kind of like
[2911.46 --> 2912.24]  having your own node
[2912.24 --> 2913.50]  and then you could get
[2913.50 --> 2914.78]  a copy of the messages
[2914.78 --> 2916.84]  and a split of the sats
[2916.84 --> 2918.26]  with Saturn, I think.
[2918.80 --> 2919.26]  And then I don't think
[2919.26 --> 2919.70]  you have to set up
[2919.70 --> 2920.22]  a whole node,
[2920.32 --> 2922.04]  but Alby is an open source project
[2922.04 --> 2924.04]  for a Lightning wallet
[2924.04 --> 2925.42]  in the browser.
[2926.02 --> 2927.24]  I don't generally like it
[2927.24 --> 2927.92]  because, you know,
[2927.96 --> 2928.44]  I don't like stuff
[2928.44 --> 2929.22]  built into the browser,
[2929.36 --> 2930.38]  but I had a chance
[2930.38 --> 2931.52]  to talk to the co-founder
[2931.52 --> 2932.30]  and, you know,
[2932.38 --> 2933.24]  ask him my questions
[2933.24 --> 2933.86]  about security
[2933.86 --> 2935.22]  and open source practices
[2935.22 --> 2936.48]  and actually walked away
[2936.48 --> 2937.60]  with a pretty good opinion
[2937.60 --> 2938.52]  of where they're at.
[2938.56 --> 2939.74]  So ALBY for that.
[2940.14 --> 2940.94]  Then you could just,
[2941.00 --> 2942.36]  you could boost
[2942.36 --> 2943.52]  from the website
[2943.52 --> 2944.80]  using our new player
[2944.80 --> 2945.32]  on the website.
[2945.74 --> 2945.92]  Otherwise,
[2946.04 --> 2947.26]  it requires a new podcast app
[2947.26 --> 2949.06]  at newpodcastapps.com.
[2949.22 --> 2950.26]  And then one day,
[2950.78 --> 2951.24]  soon,
[2952.34 --> 2953.38]  one day, Alex,
[2953.42 --> 2954.12]  I have a dream,
[2954.60 --> 2955.42]  Jupyter Broadcasting
[2955.42 --> 2956.26]  will be generating
[2956.26 --> 2957.80]  all of our own RSS feeds
[2957.80 --> 2958.62]  independently.
[2958.92 --> 2960.10]  We use a service provider
[2960.10 --> 2961.16]  called Fireside right now.
[2961.16 --> 2962.32]  It's very common practice
[2962.32 --> 2963.54]  to have a service
[2963.54 --> 2964.58]  generate your RSS feeds
[2964.58 --> 2965.88]  or like a WordPress plugin
[2965.88 --> 2966.36]  or something
[2966.36 --> 2967.50]  because you never want them
[2967.50 --> 2968.04]  to screw up.
[2968.54 --> 2969.84]  So like people have just
[2969.84 --> 2971.00]  like specialized in that
[2971.00 --> 2971.48]  because it's like
[2971.48 --> 2972.28]  your radio signal.
[2972.64 --> 2973.50]  But right now,
[2973.52 --> 2974.08]  we don't generate
[2974.08 --> 2974.98]  our own RSS feed,
[2975.38 --> 2976.20]  but we want to.
[2976.46 --> 2976.98]  And then we'll start
[2976.98 --> 2977.48]  taking advantage
[2977.48 --> 2978.46]  of even more podcasting
[2978.46 --> 2979.16]  2.0 features
[2979.16 --> 2981.04]  like transcripts
[2981.04 --> 2982.70]  and host information
[2982.70 --> 2983.16]  in there,
[2983.24 --> 2983.58]  like, you know,
[2983.64 --> 2983.90]  guest,
[2984.04 --> 2984.88]  more guest information,
[2985.08 --> 2985.74]  richer context
[2985.74 --> 2986.60]  around that kind of stuff.
[2986.68 --> 2987.44]  And a big one
[2987.44 --> 2988.60]  that I'm really looking forward to,
[2988.66 --> 2988.92]  I don't know
[2988.92 --> 2989.44]  what we'll use it
[2989.44 --> 2990.18]  for exactly yet,
[2990.18 --> 2992.02]  alternative enclosures.
[2992.56 --> 2993.24]  So like maybe
[2993.24 --> 2994.34]  like an MP4 file
[2994.34 --> 2995.88]  or an Opus file
[2995.88 --> 2996.30]  if people want
[2996.30 --> 2997.16]  an Opus version
[2997.16 --> 2998.16]  or I don't know,
[2998.54 --> 2998.94]  but it's,
[2999.14 --> 3000.44]  so your podcast player
[3000.44 --> 3000.76]  will just,
[3000.96 --> 3001.92]  it'll see the entry
[3001.92 --> 3003.12]  and then in the player,
[3003.16 --> 3003.72]  you'll just choose
[3003.72 --> 3004.76]  like which format you want
[3004.76 --> 3005.46]  because we can just
[3005.46 --> 3006.90]  specify multiple formats
[3006.90 --> 3008.36]  in one RSS feed entry
[3008.36 --> 3009.28]  with podcasting 2.0.
[3009.28 --> 3010.34]  In the past,
[3010.60 --> 3011.20]  and you've probably seen
[3011.20 --> 3012.50]  JB has like
[3012.50 --> 3014.76]  so many different RSS feeds
[3014.76 --> 3016.14]  because any variation
[3016.14 --> 3016.74]  of file type,
[3016.84 --> 3017.22]  you had to do
[3017.22 --> 3018.34]  a whole new RSS feed
[3018.34 --> 3019.22]  because that's just
[3019.22 --> 3019.76]  how these players
[3019.76 --> 3020.44]  worked back then.
[3020.62 --> 3021.66]  So it's a whole
[3021.66 --> 3023.18]  new generation over there.
[3023.54 --> 3024.58]  Very excited about it.
[3024.60 --> 3025.10]  I think it's going to be
[3025.10 --> 3026.10]  big for podcasting
[3026.10 --> 3027.40]  and I think it's the way
[3027.40 --> 3028.32]  to keep podcasting
[3028.32 --> 3028.88]  decentralized
[3028.88 --> 3029.86]  and self-hosted
[3029.86 --> 3031.16]  because the other
[3031.16 --> 3032.04]  big trend
[3032.04 --> 3033.28]  in the podcasting industry
[3033.28 --> 3034.24]  is consolidation
[3034.24 --> 3034.90]  with Spotify
[3034.90 --> 3036.44]  and players like that
[3036.44 --> 3037.14]  and then they do
[3037.14 --> 3038.30]  dynamic ad insertion,
[3038.30 --> 3039.18]  they do the hosting,
[3039.30 --> 3040.56]  they manage your RSS feed
[3040.56 --> 3041.98]  and the podcaster
[3041.98 --> 3042.82]  doesn't have any control
[3042.82 --> 3043.22]  over it
[3043.22 --> 3044.46]  and I think decentralization
[3044.46 --> 3045.24]  is key
[3045.24 --> 3046.62]  to keeping podcasting healthy
[3046.62 --> 3048.60]  and I think self-hosting
[3048.60 --> 3049.38]  plays a big role in that.
[3050.02 --> 3050.84]  Fun Deck Hermit
[3050.84 --> 3051.80]  boosted in with
[3051.80 --> 3053.40]  2,346 sats.
[3053.76 --> 3054.44]  Hey guys,
[3054.70 --> 3055.54]  I wanted to mention
[3055.54 --> 3057.02]  an amazing newish feature
[3057.02 --> 3057.90]  of R-Clone.
[3058.38 --> 3059.22]  You can now use
[3059.22 --> 3060.30]  a Docker plugin
[3060.30 --> 3061.28]  to mount the local
[3061.28 --> 3062.00]  or cloud storage
[3062.00 --> 3063.48]  directly as a Docker volume.
[3064.60 --> 3065.46]  That's great for
[3065.46 --> 3066.10]  host isolation
[3066.10 --> 3066.70]  and separation.
[3067.02 --> 3068.14]  That is
[3068.14 --> 3069.40]  great.
[3070.40 --> 3071.36]  R-Clone for the win.
[3071.98 --> 3072.26]  Yeah,
[3072.40 --> 3073.74]  so I guess you could use
[3073.74 --> 3074.46]  you know,
[3074.52 --> 3075.64]  like Google Drive
[3075.64 --> 3077.06]  as a Docker volume.
[3077.64 --> 3078.34]  I wonder what the latency
[3078.34 --> 3078.74]  is like,
[3078.82 --> 3079.56]  but that sounds amazing.
[3080.12 --> 3080.36]  I mean,
[3080.38 --> 3081.06]  if you're just writing
[3081.06 --> 3082.42]  like an encrypted
[3082.42 --> 3083.46]  tar file or something.
[3083.80 --> 3084.06]  Yeah,
[3084.18 --> 3084.74]  for something like
[3084.74 --> 3086.22]  my smoke ping
[3086.22 --> 3087.42]  you know,
[3087.52 --> 3088.28]  history or something
[3088.28 --> 3088.72]  like that,
[3088.76 --> 3089.48]  that might be nice.
[3090.38 --> 3091.44]  That I would like
[3091.44 --> 3092.50]  to keep around,
[3092.66 --> 3093.72]  but I don't really care
[3093.72 --> 3095.50]  that much about it.
[3095.94 --> 3096.18]  Maybe.
[3096.40 --> 3097.12]  I'll investigate.
[3097.26 --> 3097.86]  That sounds pretty cool.
[3097.94 --> 3098.10]  Thanks,
[3098.18 --> 3098.70]  FunDeckHermit.
[3098.96 --> 3099.90]  Last couple boosts
[3099.90 --> 3100.40]  for this week,
[3100.44 --> 3101.10]  although we did read
[3101.10 --> 3101.56]  all of them.
[3101.78 --> 3102.44]  We only feature
[3102.44 --> 3103.50]  some of them in the show.
[3103.62 --> 3104.36]  Soltros boosted
[3104.36 --> 3105.44]  with 9,000 sats.
[3105.56 --> 3107.10]  I recently got into Docker
[3107.10 --> 3108.70]  after refusing to let go
[3108.70 --> 3109.70]  of my VM obsession.
[3110.12 --> 3110.48]  Welcome.
[3110.48 --> 3113.14]  Are there any tips out there
[3113.14 --> 3114.00]  for use case scenarios
[3114.00 --> 3114.68]  or cool project
[3114.68 --> 3115.80]  I can run at my home
[3115.80 --> 3117.50]  on my Ubuntu home server?
[3117.62 --> 3117.90]  Right now,
[3117.94 --> 3118.62]  I have Nextcloud,
[3118.98 --> 3119.26]  Plex,
[3119.50 --> 3120.60]  and a few other odds
[3120.60 --> 3121.54]  and ends.
[3122.04 --> 3122.40]  Well,
[3122.66 --> 3123.12]  over at
[3123.12 --> 3124.62]  perfectmediaserver.com,
[3124.70 --> 3125.38]  I have a list
[3125.38 --> 3126.82]  of my top 10
[3126.82 --> 3128.08]  recommended apps
[3128.08 --> 3128.64]  to run
[3128.64 --> 3129.52]  on your new
[3129.52 --> 3130.40]  media server.
[3130.62 --> 3130.82]  So,
[3131.24 --> 3131.74]  I'll put a link
[3131.74 --> 3132.72]  to that in the show notes.
[3133.14 --> 3134.00]  And if you have
[3134.00 --> 3134.86]  any other recommendations,
[3135.18 --> 3135.58]  let us know
[3135.58 --> 3136.54]  at selfhosted.show
[3136.54 --> 3137.26]  slash contact.
[3137.60 --> 3138.14]  Look at that.
[3138.36 --> 3138.74]  And, you know,
[3138.74 --> 3139.28]  just keep listening
[3139.28 --> 3139.74]  to the show
[3139.74 --> 3140.94]  because as you listen,
[3141.12 --> 3142.14]  you'll hear us mention
[3142.14 --> 3143.18]  our favorite apps
[3143.18 --> 3143.70]  over and over again.
[3143.80 --> 3144.10]  Like,
[3144.24 --> 3145.06]  Alex just name dropped
[3145.06 --> 3145.54]  Smokeping.
[3146.00 --> 3146.86]  That's a great one.
[3146.96 --> 3147.52]  It's a classic.
[3148.10 --> 3148.24]  You know,
[3148.26 --> 3148.64]  it's funny.
[3149.06 --> 3149.96]  I got Smokeping
[3149.96 --> 3151.02]  from Linux Action Show
[3151.02 --> 3151.58]  back in the day
[3151.58 --> 3152.84]  way before you knew me.
[3153.30 --> 3154.28]  And then I wrapped it up
[3154.28 --> 3155.20]  as a Docker container
[3155.20 --> 3156.56]  on Linux server.io
[3156.56 --> 3157.06]  and then
[3157.06 --> 3157.96]  now it's a thing.
[3158.56 --> 3158.84]  I know.
[3158.88 --> 3159.82]  And then I grabbed it one day
[3159.82 --> 3160.06]  and I'm like,
[3160.10 --> 3160.22]  hey,
[3160.32 --> 3161.40]  it pings Jupyter Broadcasting.
[3161.46 --> 3161.90]  That's awesome.
[3162.04 --> 3162.20]  Yeah,
[3162.20 --> 3162.72]  that's why.
[3162.88 --> 3163.96]  That's why it pings JB.
[3163.96 --> 3165.42]  I put you in there, bro.
[3166.14 --> 3166.70]  And it really is
[3166.70 --> 3167.44]  a great example
[3167.44 --> 3168.08]  of like an app
[3168.08 --> 3168.98]  that probably should be
[3168.98 --> 3169.54]  in a container
[3169.54 --> 3170.28]  because it's kind of
[3170.28 --> 3171.06]  super old
[3171.06 --> 3171.70]  and legacy
[3171.70 --> 3172.68]  in a lot of ways
[3172.68 --> 3173.40]  and you don't want it
[3173.40 --> 3174.12]  on your whole system.
[3174.68 --> 3175.62]  Our last boost
[3175.62 --> 3176.24]  of the episode
[3176.24 --> 3177.44]  came in from Bronzewing
[3177.44 --> 3179.64]  who boosted 9,001 sets
[3179.64 --> 3180.90]  over 9,000.
[3181.36 --> 3182.38]  There's another option
[3182.38 --> 3183.86]  called Mood.
[3184.22 --> 3185.64]  M-O-O-D-E.
[3185.90 --> 3186.54]  Moodie, perhaps?
[3186.74 --> 3187.88]  That runs on a Pi
[3187.88 --> 3188.72]  and says it can do
[3188.72 --> 3189.80]  multi-room audio.
[3190.36 --> 3191.56]  And we have a link
[3191.56 --> 3191.96]  in there to
[3191.96 --> 3192.98]  moodaudio.org.
[3192.98 --> 3193.74]  It's free
[3193.74 --> 3194.54]  and you can get
[3194.54 --> 3195.92]  a Hi-Fi Berry amp
[3195.92 --> 3196.60]  and put speakers
[3196.60 --> 3197.38]  on that in each room
[3197.38 --> 3198.18]  controlled by a web
[3198.18 --> 3198.54]  interface
[3198.54 --> 3200.02]  and that interface
[3200.02 --> 3200.68]  is mobile friendly.
[3201.14 --> 3201.86]  I hear it's actually
[3201.86 --> 3202.96]  better than Volumio.
[3203.38 --> 3204.26]  It could be the
[3204.26 --> 3205.02]  complete solution
[3205.02 --> 3206.24]  worth checking out.
[3206.42 --> 3207.22]  It does look nice.
[3207.52 --> 3208.62]  Yeah, I think when my
[3208.62 --> 3210.00]  Rune free trial expires,
[3210.08 --> 3210.70]  which I think I've got
[3210.70 --> 3211.70]  another week left on,
[3212.34 --> 3213.18]  I think I'll probably
[3213.18 --> 3213.92]  have to give Volumio
[3213.92 --> 3214.78]  a spin next
[3214.78 --> 3216.10]  and then move on
[3216.10 --> 3217.34]  to this mood thing
[3217.34 --> 3218.60]  after that.
[3218.70 --> 3220.14]  But I'll be honest
[3220.14 --> 3220.72]  with you people,
[3220.72 --> 3221.56]  I'm getting a little
[3221.56 --> 3222.56]  fatigued with the music
[3222.56 --> 3223.12]  situation
[3223.12 --> 3224.26]  and I'll probably
[3224.26 --> 3225.28]  just go back to Spotify
[3225.28 --> 3226.24]  for a few months
[3226.24 --> 3227.08]  whilst I just
[3227.08 --> 3228.06]  calm down again.
[3228.66 --> 3229.06]  I'm just going to
[3229.06 --> 3229.84]  ship you like six
[3229.84 --> 3230.28]  HomePods
[3230.28 --> 3231.46]  and you'll be good.
[3231.78 --> 3232.10]  Yeah.
[3232.68 --> 3233.42]  I know it's not
[3233.42 --> 3233.80]  what you want.
[3233.90 --> 3234.10]  I know.
[3234.28 --> 3234.58]  I know.
[3235.02 --> 3235.74]  I also want to say
[3235.74 --> 3236.62]  thank you to John A
[3236.62 --> 3238.20]  who sent 2000 sats.
[3238.34 --> 3238.62]  He's going to be
[3238.62 --> 3239.40]  switching to Podverse.
[3239.68 --> 3240.52]  That is one of those
[3240.52 --> 3241.32]  new podcast apps
[3241.32 --> 3242.44]  that is totally GPL
[3242.44 --> 3244.04]  web, Android, iOS
[3244.04 --> 3245.60]  and it's an F-Droid
[3245.60 --> 3246.84]  and I really appreciated
[3246.84 --> 3247.38]  that when I switched
[3247.38 --> 3247.88]  to Graphene.
[3248.42 --> 3249.34]  And then Schmitzfeld,
[3249.74 --> 3250.16]  who Brent
[3250.16 --> 3251.44]  appropriately
[3251.44 --> 3252.48]  pronounces,
[3253.14 --> 3253.80]  mentioned that
[3253.80 --> 3254.46]  it was recently
[3254.46 --> 3255.26]  his first boost
[3255.26 --> 3255.94]  ever that he sent
[3255.94 --> 3256.56]  into the show
[3256.56 --> 3257.92]  and he also
[3257.92 --> 3258.90]  is a big fan
[3258.90 --> 3259.50]  of replacing
[3259.50 --> 3260.32]  the Raspberry Pi
[3260.32 --> 3261.00]  with a small
[3261.00 --> 3261.80]  low power PC.
[3262.00 --> 3263.04]  He's had great results
[3263.04 --> 3263.44]  he says.
[3263.58 --> 3264.92]  So I will let you guys
[3264.92 --> 3265.40]  know how the
[3265.40 --> 3267.66]  O-Droid H3 Plus
[3267.66 --> 3268.36]  works out.
[3268.62 --> 3269.74]  I'm super excited
[3269.74 --> 3270.18]  about that
[3270.18 --> 3271.18]  and then that old
[3271.18 --> 3272.72]  Powerwall
[3272.72 --> 3273.96]  or Solarwall
[3273.96 --> 3274.64]  device,
[3274.96 --> 3275.82]  I have a couple
[3275.82 --> 3276.28]  of ideas
[3276.28 --> 3277.10]  and I think I have
[3277.10 --> 3277.40]  a couple
[3277.40 --> 3278.80]  outside the box
[3278.80 --> 3279.42]  places where I could
[3279.42 --> 3279.84]  mount that
[3279.84 --> 3280.44]  because it is so
[3280.44 --> 3281.16]  rugged too.
[3281.72 --> 3282.24]  All projects
[3282.24 --> 3283.08]  for future episodes.
[3283.22 --> 3283.84]  That H3
[3283.84 --> 3284.42]  is the type
[3284.42 --> 3284.84]  of device
[3284.84 --> 3285.36]  that I'm trying
[3285.36 --> 3285.82]  to think
[3285.82 --> 3286.44]  of a project
[3286.44 --> 3287.08]  for that I
[3287.08 --> 3287.50]  don't already
[3287.50 --> 3288.14]  have a solution
[3288.14 --> 3288.44]  for.
[3288.54 --> 3289.02]  Like I want
[3289.02 --> 3289.66]  to buy one.
[3289.76 --> 3290.94]  I just don't know
[3290.94 --> 3291.28]  why,
[3291.42 --> 3292.04]  what I'd use it
[3292.04 --> 3292.26]  for.
[3292.44 --> 3293.24]  I want one though.
[3293.60 --> 3293.94]  I mean maybe
[3293.94 --> 3294.46]  you'll get lucky
[3294.46 --> 3294.90]  and your server
[3294.90 --> 3295.26]  will die.
[3297.88 --> 3299.24]  Oh we can hope.
[3299.64 --> 3300.48]  Hopefully not dude,
[3300.54 --> 3301.22]  hopefully not.
[3301.50 --> 3302.40]  Thank you to our
[3302.40 --> 3303.26]  SRE subscribers.
[3303.36 --> 3303.74]  Those are our
[3303.74 --> 3304.30]  site reliability
[3304.30 --> 3304.76]  engineers.
[3304.90 --> 3305.32]  You guys make
[3305.32 --> 3305.98]  the show possible
[3305.98 --> 3306.88]  by investing in
[3306.88 --> 3307.42]  our ongoing
[3307.42 --> 3308.34]  content production
[3308.34 --> 3309.56]  and as a thank you
[3309.56 --> 3310.24]  we make an ad
[3310.24 --> 3311.02]  free version of the
[3311.02 --> 3312.20]  show and every
[3312.20 --> 3312.88]  episode gets a little
[3312.88 --> 3313.98]  extra content for
[3313.98 --> 3314.62]  the members of
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[3321.82 --> 3323.28]  at jupiter.party.
[3323.86 --> 3324.44]  And as you know
[3324.44 --> 3325.52]  selfhosted.show
[3325.52 --> 3326.66]  slash contact is
[3326.66 --> 3327.38]  the place to go to
[3327.38 --> 3327.96]  get in touch with
[3327.96 --> 3328.14]  us.
[3328.54 --> 3329.20]  You can find me
[3329.20 --> 3329.80]  over on Twitter
[3329.80 --> 3330.88]  at ironicbadger.
[3331.30 --> 3332.40]  Oh do we want to
[3332.40 --> 3333.64]  tease all things open
[3333.64 --> 3333.98]  at all?
[3334.14 --> 3334.96]  Any updates there?
[3335.24 --> 3335.86]  Oh yeah we could
[3335.86 --> 3336.06]  do.
[3336.18 --> 3336.84]  Coming up around
[3336.84 --> 3337.80]  Halloween all things
[3337.80 --> 3338.96]  open in Raleigh if
[3338.96 --> 3339.60]  you're going to be in
[3339.60 --> 3339.90]  town.
[3340.06 --> 3340.90]  Keep an eye on the
[3340.90 --> 3341.70]  meetup page.
[3342.40 --> 3343.02]  I don't know if we
[3343.02 --> 3343.46]  do the official
[3343.46 --> 3344.34]  Jupiter Broadcasting
[3344.34 --> 3345.20]  meetup or just the
[3345.20 --> 3345.80]  Raleigh room.
[3345.90 --> 3346.40]  Probably just the
[3346.40 --> 3346.98]  Raleigh room on
[3346.98 --> 3347.30]  Matrix.
[3347.90 --> 3348.24]  Could do.
[3348.44 --> 3348.78]  Either way.
[3349.56 --> 3350.92]  Myself and Cheese
[3350.92 --> 3351.84]  Bacon, long time
[3351.84 --> 3352.40]  friend of the
[3352.40 --> 3353.24]  network, will be
[3353.24 --> 3353.58]  there.
[3353.98 --> 3355.14]  He's supporting a
[3355.14 --> 3355.90]  booth for System
[3355.90 --> 3357.08]  76 at the
[3357.08 --> 3357.44]  conference.
[3358.20 --> 3359.08]  So I'll be at the
[3359.08 --> 3360.22]  conference too and
[3360.22 --> 3361.24]  we might go out for
[3361.24 --> 3362.46]  a drinky poo in the
[3362.46 --> 3363.44]  evening after one of
[3363.44 --> 3364.10]  the talks.
[3364.38 --> 3364.62]  We'll see.
[3365.28 --> 3365.82]  Now I want to go.
[3365.92 --> 3366.66]  I really wanted to go
[3366.66 --> 3367.36]  to all things open.
[3367.86 --> 3368.16]  It's too much
[3368.16 --> 3369.26]  traveling but I really
[3369.26 --> 3369.80]  want to go.
[3369.80 --> 3371.04]  Next year remember
[3371.04 --> 3372.32]  Halloween, Raleigh,
[3372.56 --> 3373.58]  and you'll...
[3373.58 --> 3374.14]  I think so.
[3374.60 --> 3375.18]  I think so.
[3375.62 --> 3376.46]  Also I'll mention we
[3376.46 --> 3377.52]  have our Discord server.
[3377.78 --> 3378.68]  You can find that on our
[3378.68 --> 3379.70]  self-hosted website and
[3379.70 --> 3380.96]  we also have a couple of
[3380.96 --> 3382.02]  self-hosted Matrix chat
[3382.02 --> 3382.26]  rooms.
[3382.74 --> 3383.06]  That's at
[3383.06 --> 3384.26]  jupiterbroadcasting.com
[3384.26 --> 3385.64]  slash Matrix and then
[3385.64 --> 3386.94]  the podcast itself at
[3386.94 --> 3389.20]  self-hosted show on
[3389.20 --> 3389.42]  Twitter.
[3390.08 --> 3390.88]  And I do really mean it.
[3390.94 --> 3392.06]  I know they say this every
[3392.06 --> 3393.12]  single week about thanks
[3393.12 --> 3394.10]  for listening everybody but
[3394.10 --> 3395.38]  genuinely if you made it
[3395.38 --> 3396.20]  this far in the show,
[3396.40 --> 3397.12]  thank you very much for
[3397.12 --> 3397.40]  listening.
[3397.40 --> 3398.86]  This is self-hosted
[3398.86 --> 3400.36]  dot show slash 82.