[0.00 --> 5.02]  Well, I've made it down to Southern Oregon to get Lady Joops ready for a summer road trip.
[5.16 --> 7.84]  And she had a little bit of work she still needed done from the last road trip.
[8.30 --> 9.16]  So I'm down here.
[9.26 --> 10.30]  I might sound a little different.
[10.40 --> 13.42]  I might sound a little off because I'm actually just in a parking lot.
[13.56 --> 14.74]  I'm just I'm not like in a studio.
[14.98 --> 18.64]  I'm not in some nice place with good signal and quiet sounds.
[18.72 --> 21.36]  No, I'm just in a parking lot while I get some work done.
[22.02 --> 23.44]  But the show must go on, Alex.
[23.72 --> 27.76]  And what could go wrong with that, particularly with the Starlink situation you've got right now?
[28.10 --> 29.36]  Yeah, my Starlink's busted, too.
[29.36 --> 30.86]  The motor, the dish works.
[31.26 --> 32.50]  So I can rabbit ear it.
[32.58 --> 33.96]  You know, I can I've done this.
[34.02 --> 37.64]  I've gone out there and tried to point it at the northern sky and try to figure out where the satellite's at.
[37.68 --> 38.54]  And it'll work for a bit.
[39.34 --> 43.94]  But finally, after about like a week and change, maybe a little almost two weeks, they finally got back to me.
[43.96 --> 45.00]  They're going to send me a replacement.
[45.32 --> 45.76]  That's good.
[45.86 --> 46.10]  Good.
[46.22 --> 50.30]  Don't forget to buy an Ethernet adapter if you're getting the square one now.
[50.78 --> 51.12]  Right.
[51.24 --> 52.16]  I think I probably will.
[52.30 --> 54.34]  I'm going to go from the round dishy to the square dishy.
[54.68 --> 58.42]  I went shopping today while I was killing time while they were working on the rig.
[58.42 --> 62.00]  I haven't gone to Best Buy since the pandemic started.
[62.22 --> 63.90]  I just haven't had a chance to go in.
[63.94 --> 67.46]  So I was curious, what are they doing for their home automation gear now?
[67.56 --> 72.84]  And they're they're really big, of course, on the Amazon ecosystem and the Google ecosystem.
[72.84 --> 81.20]  Huge on Arlo and a lot of the video lights that you can attach to your house that have like motion detection.
[81.30 --> 82.66]  They sell a whole bunch of those.
[83.36 --> 94.36]  Well, like I said, I haven't been in a long time and I'm sure a lot of people listening know this, but I didn't really realize or appreciate that they're doing e-ink displays for all the prices and stuff for most things.
[94.66 --> 95.26]  Have you seen this?
[95.32 --> 97.64]  You probably have seen this because you've probably gone in more recently than I have.
[97.64 --> 99.24]  It's pretty cool, isn't it?
[99.26 --> 100.08]  It works, right?
[100.16 --> 102.66]  Some of them are a little hard to read, but I like it.
[102.84 --> 103.96]  I think it's a nice touch.
[104.00 --> 104.36]  It's cool.
[104.60 --> 110.08]  And then the one device that really impressed me out of all the stuff there that I saw, I didn't pick it up.
[110.08 --> 121.54]  But the pricing on the Lenovo smart clock stands that have Google Assistant built in, it looks like an alarm clock, but it has Google Assistant $29.99 for this thing.
[121.74 --> 122.72]  Yeah, that is nice.
[122.88 --> 123.80]  Open box $25.
[124.36 --> 128.98]  And then they have one with a screen that has the Google cards on it and stuff like that for $89.99.
[129.46 --> 134.86]  I was at Best Buy just this week buying a new hard drive, but let's not spoil the show.
[134.86 --> 137.18]  Oh, yeah, yeah.
[137.46 --> 141.42]  Yeah, it was good to go in there, you know, do a little shopping, get a sense of where the pricing's at.
[141.60 --> 145.32]  And honestly, it doesn't seem like the tech pricing's really changed much.
[145.88 --> 149.60]  Everything's going up in price except for a lot of the tech stuff.
[149.70 --> 151.66]  Still seemed like it was priced it was a year or two ago.
[151.66 --> 158.38]  I feel like walking into Best Buy is how Harry Potter must feel walking out of Diagon Alley or something.
[158.68 --> 160.70]  This is how normal people live?
[161.04 --> 162.62]  This is how muggles live?
[162.62 --> 166.72]  I would have loved to have seen the Starlink kit at Best Buy.
[166.82 --> 167.98]  I mean, I knew it just wasn't going to happen.
[168.12 --> 171.58]  But imagine if I could have walked in there and bought a new dish tonight with a working motor.
[171.88 --> 172.54]  Imagine this.
[172.70 --> 176.66]  Imagine if Starlink made a dish that was repairable.
[177.22 --> 177.48]  Oh.
[178.08 --> 178.50]  Whoa.
[178.80 --> 181.72]  Like, maybe I could open it up and replace the motor?
[182.04 --> 182.36]  No.
[183.12 --> 187.96]  And then I could just carry spare parts on board and then, like, install them when it goes wrong?
[188.06 --> 189.70]  That's just, that's crazy, Alex.
[190.30 --> 191.30]  It's so frustrating.
[191.30 --> 193.84]  You know it's going to be like a $3 part that's broken.
[194.28 --> 194.36]  Yeah.
[194.52 --> 203.08]  I'm actually a little concerned about how I'm going to transport it in the future because as far as I know, it was just transporting it, going down the road, maybe a jarring bump.
[203.20 --> 204.38]  Something broke the motor.
[205.02 --> 210.66]  And so now I'm thinking about when I do get a replacement dish, like, do I need to get, like, a case for this thing?
[210.74 --> 211.64]  Like, a Pelican case?
[211.74 --> 212.52]  Like, I don't know.
[212.52 --> 215.86]  I'm curious what the audience might do if they have a Starlink and they're transporting it.
[215.98 --> 219.16]  Are there Starlink cases for safe transport?
[219.50 --> 219.94]  Is that a thing?
[220.28 --> 222.16]  We'll build your wooden crate between me and Brent.
[222.22 --> 223.26]  I think we can make that happen.
[223.86 --> 224.50]  There you go.
[224.64 --> 225.62]  That looked pretty nice.
[226.04 --> 227.52]  Well, we're live tonight somehow.
[227.98 --> 228.70]  I don't know how.
[228.82 --> 230.76]  The cellular signal is mostly holding on.
[230.76 --> 232.38]  I've dropped 6,000 packets.
[232.64 --> 233.70]  So it's not perfect.
[234.12 --> 235.16]  But it's holding.
[235.52 --> 236.14]  Good enough, dude.
[236.32 --> 237.52]  We've got folks in the Discord.
[237.76 --> 241.18]  The self-hosted Discord's going, like always, at selfhosted.show slash Discord.
[241.38 --> 242.42]  Hit a milestone recently.
[242.66 --> 243.26]  We did.
[243.38 --> 247.78]  We just passed 4,500 members, which is crazy.
[248.32 --> 249.16]  That is so great.
[249.58 --> 255.40]  You got to admit, it was a little awkward when we decided to go with Discord since it is not a self-hosted chat platform.
[255.40 --> 258.50]  But you can't deny the networking aspect of it.
[258.50 --> 265.18]  Well, I just look at the palaver that you and Wes have been through on Linux Unplugged with your Matrix server.
[265.32 --> 268.64]  And I just feel completely vindicated in that decision.
[269.20 --> 269.90]  Yeah, you might be right.
[270.38 --> 271.08]  You might be right.
[271.38 --> 274.44]  The Matrix server has been a real learning process.
[274.84 --> 277.40]  I like to think of it as a long-term investment.
[277.60 --> 277.90]  Right.
[278.02 --> 278.74]  Something like that.
[278.94 --> 279.60]  Something like that.
[281.38 --> 284.80]  Now, speaking of long-term planning, it's not that far away.
[284.80 --> 287.98]  But I'm going to be in the UK in August, early August.
[287.98 --> 295.40]  So I'm kind of floating the idea of a UK meetup because several people messaged me when we were talking about the Raleigh one saying that they were jealous.
[295.86 --> 307.02]  The very, very vague plan at this point is the weekend of August the 6th, somewhere in London, so that people can fly in from Ireland and Europe more easily.
[307.20 --> 308.76]  Somewhere in London, we'll have a meetup.
[308.80 --> 309.40]  Maybe a pub.
[309.56 --> 310.54]  Maybe a community centre.
[310.66 --> 311.26]  Something like that.
[311.66 --> 312.40]  I don't know.
[312.84 --> 313.82]  We're going to figure it out.
[313.82 --> 319.10]  But if you're interested, send me a message on the Discord or hit me up on Twitter at ironicbadger.
[319.66 --> 322.48]  I want to go so bad.
[322.62 --> 324.48]  I bet August is a great time to be in London, too.
[325.00 --> 325.58]  It could be.
[325.68 --> 329.68]  It could be a good time or it could be snowing and raining sideways in August.
[329.80 --> 330.18]  Who knows?
[330.36 --> 330.82]  I mean...
[330.82 --> 331.40]  No.
[331.40 --> 333.42]  Maybe not snow.
[333.56 --> 337.80]  But I mean, honestly, it could be 35 Celsius or it could be 10.
[338.08 --> 338.48]  Who knows?
[338.86 --> 341.62]  Do you want people to send you suggestions via email?
[341.82 --> 343.20]  Maybe the contact page?
[343.42 --> 344.24]  The contact page.
[344.30 --> 344.90]  Anything like that.
[344.94 --> 346.02]  If you've got a venue in mind.
[346.14 --> 351.26]  I was thinking we did a few events for Red Hat Consulting when I was in London at BrewDog.
[351.78 --> 353.72]  Those pubs are quite hip and trendy and modern.
[353.82 --> 357.22]  They've got like a whole area upstairs that you can kind of rent out.
[357.32 --> 357.90]  Some of them.
[357.90 --> 362.90]  So maybe something like that would be nice because they're sort of half open, half inside type thing.
[363.04 --> 364.98]  So kind of hedge our bets on the weather.
[365.48 --> 366.44]  That's probably a pretty good idea.
[366.60 --> 367.30]  Let's be honest.
[367.44 --> 368.28]  Man, I'm so jealous.
[368.48 --> 369.36]  Please take pictures.
[370.00 --> 371.28]  I want to see it.
[371.56 --> 373.36]  Maybe one of these days we'll get you out there, huh?
[373.46 --> 374.52]  Maybe Fosdem.
[374.84 --> 375.48]  I'd love to.
[375.80 --> 376.82]  Definitely on my list.
[377.06 --> 380.70]  It kind of got set back the last couple of years, but it's definitely on my list.
[381.58 --> 382.66]  This is one of those episodes.
[382.90 --> 384.66]  We have them, I think, about every other episode.
[385.28 --> 387.82]  I'm going to have a bunch of work after this episode.
[388.02 --> 389.34]  I just know it.
[389.60 --> 390.06]  I know it.
[390.16 --> 393.32]  And it's going to be because my wife's going to demand it.
[394.04 --> 395.36]  You have come across something.
[395.54 --> 400.42]  I feel like either you talked to me about it before off air or someone did.
[400.78 --> 403.34]  It just doesn't seem right that we haven't talked about this on air yet.
[403.70 --> 410.18]  Well, a couple of weeks ago, the Tandoor Project, a self-hosted recipe manager, released version 1.4.
[410.66 --> 413.90]  So they've been in development for a year plus at this point.
[413.98 --> 416.86]  So it's very possible you've seen it on Reddit at some point before.
[417.12 --> 417.56]  Yeah, maybe.
[417.66 --> 420.06]  But the 1.4 release has got some notable changes in it.
[420.06 --> 425.24]  There's a whole new shopping list feature built in, which is pretty darn cool.
[425.78 --> 430.84]  And so just to be clear, this is a recipe manager that you would run on your own system where they offer a self-hosted version.
[431.40 --> 434.16]  And if we haven't talked about it on the show before, we should have.
[434.16 --> 438.46]  Well, we've talked about Chowdown, and I'm fairly sure we've talked about Melee before.
[438.60 --> 441.18]  If we haven't, I use both of those equally.
[441.80 --> 446.86]  I still love Chowdown because it's a simple markdown-based system.
[447.02 --> 447.84]  There's no database.
[448.18 --> 449.54]  There's no craziness.
[449.54 --> 453.66]  It's just a stupid, simple markdown plain text files.
[454.64 --> 463.04]  But having a database gives you some nice features, like in Tandoor, for example, when you import a recipe, you can then add it into a meal plan.
[463.04 --> 466.68]  So you could have a family-facing meal plan dashboard.
[467.60 --> 472.50]  Take it one step further, the app knows which ingredients go into those recipes.
[472.84 --> 477.12]  So you can say, excuse me, Tandoor, could you please add that to my shopping list?
[477.20 --> 483.72]  And then pull that shopping list up when you're at the grocery store and just buy everything you need for that specific thing.
[484.28 --> 490.08]  Now, what I saw in Reddit as a particularly interesting idea was some kind of like self-hosted HelloFresh.
[490.08 --> 502.88]  Someone suggested to the developer that he integrates with Instacart's API with those recipes to order three green peppers and some chicken and whatever else you need for that recipe.
[503.54 --> 509.90]  So you end up with this like self-hosted HelloFresh type thing, which I thought would be an amazing, amazing thing.
[510.48 --> 510.92]  No kidding.
[511.20 --> 512.04]  Brilliant idea.
[512.04 --> 518.96]  This has another feature that you're probably about to touch on, but I just have to talk about because this is what won me over.
[519.62 --> 522.78]  And it is one of the newer features they just recently implemented.
[523.00 --> 530.38]  And it's this really slick import feature where you can give it the URL of a website that has a recipe.
[530.38 --> 537.48]  I threw one of those, one of those like essentially a blog post where they tell you their whole life story just to give you a recipe and they have pictures.
[537.74 --> 540.36]  Oh, I hate those so much.
[540.50 --> 545.58]  I found like the worst one, man, where it has like slide over JavaScript and just all kinds of junk.
[545.84 --> 552.66]  And I gave the URL to Tandoor and it actually processed the page.
[552.66 --> 559.38]  It pulled out all the individual steps, all of the individual ingredients, and it itemized it all just perfectly.
[559.86 --> 561.00]  I threw some simpler ones out.
[561.02 --> 561.60]  It did great too.
[561.66 --> 564.72]  But I was really impressed that it got that really complicated one.
[564.86 --> 573.14]  And so it's like you just take this really, really long three-page post and condense it down into just a good block information you need.
[573.40 --> 574.38]  And then you add it to your database.
[574.66 --> 575.88]  And now you got that recipe.
[576.36 --> 576.76]  It's amazing.
[576.90 --> 578.80]  It will import the images from the website.
[579.04 --> 580.60]  It will also pick out keywords.
[580.98 --> 582.16]  Yes, yes, yes.
[582.16 --> 586.36]  It will figure out the steps you need, the ingredients, everything.
[586.56 --> 588.42]  So the import stuff is really slick.
[588.70 --> 594.56]  And you can do one recipe at a time or you can just give it a list of URLs with a new line per link.
[595.16 --> 597.06]  And it just works.
[597.20 --> 599.16]  I mean, that's the best kind of works, right?
[599.74 --> 607.96]  I had the wife use it because she was just yesterday talking to me about how, you know, my grandma used index cards.
[607.96 --> 611.38]  And when I first started cooking, I created a binder, she said.
[611.44 --> 614.06]  And I had all my recipes in this binder that I'd printed out.
[614.22 --> 615.62]  But that's gone now.
[615.62 --> 618.48]  And she wanted to start collecting her recipes again.
[619.26 --> 622.76]  And so I had her sit down and input a few of them into this.
[623.04 --> 626.90]  And I'd say within 15 minutes, she probably had four recipes added.
[626.90 --> 630.54]  And she was testing the shopping cart feature to see how that works.
[630.54 --> 637.58]  And then she was visualizing, okay, well, how would this work if I'm at the grocery store and I have my phone with me?
[637.92 --> 639.04]  How would the UI look?
[639.10 --> 641.92]  And so she, like, resizes the browser to see if it works okay on mobile.
[641.98 --> 642.66]  And it totally did.
[642.70 --> 644.30]  It looks like it's going to render just fine.
[644.30 --> 648.88]  And so she had herself a list that she could just go down the aisle and check off as she buys.
[649.00 --> 653.04]  And she experimented with seeing what happens if multiple recipes call for the same ingredient.
[653.20 --> 655.94]  And if it gets the right amounts correct in the shopping cart.
[656.04 --> 656.80]  And it does.
[657.00 --> 659.14]  It just does a really good job with all that.
[659.34 --> 661.50]  And it supports markdown for your cooking notes.
[661.90 --> 662.42]  That is cool.
[662.52 --> 662.72]  Yes.
[662.80 --> 664.78]  I was going to touch on the comment feature at the bottom.
[665.10 --> 668.60]  There's also another option to log a specific cook.
[668.60 --> 676.52]  So I'm thinking for my barbecue grilling, like if I put the brisket recipe that I use in there, I can link things like the YouTube video.
[676.64 --> 681.90]  But then I can also give myself a rating out of five and a specific date and time that's in there.
[682.32 --> 689.62]  And then tie that into a specific comment on a specific day to say I tried a new technique that day with grilling.
[689.78 --> 691.34]  It's a serious business, don't you know?
[691.58 --> 692.50]  You've got to make sure you get it right.
[692.56 --> 694.98]  And if you nailed it, you've got to note down what you did.
[696.12 --> 697.20]  Or if you mess it up.
[697.48 --> 697.84]  Exactly.
[697.84 --> 698.04]  Exactly.
[698.60 --> 705.00]  Now, the other thing that I really, really like is it has a servings option at the top of the page with like a plus and a minus.
[706.00 --> 711.26]  And in the ingredients thing here, let's say you've got two pounds of chicken in your recipe and it's four servings.
[711.64 --> 715.68]  I can just hit the plus button and double that to, I don't know, seven.
[715.88 --> 717.20]  Let's go with seven servings.
[717.34 --> 720.20]  Now, I mean, the mental maths isn't too difficult on that one.
[720.60 --> 727.14]  But how many times have you had to do some weird fractional maths on a cup of flour or something weird like that?
[727.14 --> 730.32]  And the servings thing in here, it works flawlessly.
[730.54 --> 730.90]  Yeah.
[731.04 --> 737.14]  And it's, again, that's also nice when you're using it to generate the shopping list so you know how much you need of something in there.
[737.14 --> 744.56]  The other thing that I didn't get a lot of time to use but I think was really interesting to my wife was it has a meal planner in there.
[744.56 --> 748.30]  And you get a calendar and you can plan out your meals.
[748.42 --> 752.04]  Of course, you can use, you can select the recipes that you've already input to the system.
[752.44 --> 758.28]  Then, if you would like, it will actually export you out a calendar file, an ICS file or whatever they are.
[758.38 --> 763.60]  And you can import that meal plan into your calendar app of choice so you have it somewhere outside Tandor as well.
[763.74 --> 765.12]  Which I thought that was a really nice touch.
[765.12 --> 769.50]  Now, for Hedir's thing, there is a whole cookbooks feature.
[769.88 --> 774.98]  So, you could kind of group recipes, you know, like grandma, mom, wife, whatever.
[775.56 --> 777.74]  You know, for me, I could have a barbecue cookbook, for example.
[777.88 --> 778.74]  That would be pretty cool.
[779.46 --> 780.68]  There's so many features in this thing.
[780.74 --> 782.72]  I feel like we could spend an hour on it almost.
[782.96 --> 787.50]  But if you're interested, it's obviously free and open source software over on GitHub.
[788.04 --> 789.54]  There'll be a link in the show notes.
[789.80 --> 792.84]  It's at TandorRecipes slash recipes in GitHub.
[792.84 --> 794.36]  Yeah, definitely worth checking out.
[794.40 --> 797.08]  I mean, when's the last time we get this excited about a recipe app?
[797.20 --> 799.14]  I mean, maybe we just like recipe apps.
[799.22 --> 800.56]  But this is a whole management suite.
[800.90 --> 802.92]  But what was the process like of getting it installed?
[802.96 --> 804.66]  Because I tried their online demo.
[805.18 --> 808.30]  Since I'm on the road, I didn't want to go through all the process of loading it up.
[808.34 --> 810.78]  But I think I'm going to have to do that when I get home.
[810.96 --> 813.22]  So, give me an idea of what I'm looking at.
[813.44 --> 814.22]  It's not too bad.
[814.34 --> 815.08]  Three containers.
[815.32 --> 816.28]  There's a database.
[816.48 --> 817.12]  It's a Postgres.
[817.46 --> 821.02]  There's the app itself, which is a Django-based application.
[821.02 --> 824.00]  And then there's an Nginx front-end.
[824.12 --> 828.88]  I mean, you can switch out the Nginx front-end web server, if you like, with your web server of choice.
[830.02 --> 838.20]  Personally, I would prefer it if the developer shipped the Tandor application with a simple web server built in.
[838.76 --> 846.20]  The G-Unicorn stuff that's built into the app that ships is not really fit for purpose in terms of public hosting.
[846.26 --> 847.54]  And he mentions that in the documentation.
[847.54 --> 848.84]  He's very clear about that.
[849.42 --> 851.86]  And that's why he suggests people spin up Nginx.
[852.40 --> 856.58]  But I'm a fairly experienced Docker administrator at this point, a container guy.
[857.22 --> 859.14]  And I got a couple of my file paths wrong.
[859.32 --> 860.90]  So, some of it's on me, admittedly.
[861.00 --> 865.68]  But it took me about an hour to get this going, simply because I had to link three containers together
[865.68 --> 867.12]  and make sure everything was just so.
[867.22 --> 869.88]  And there's an environment variables file and all that kind of stuff.
[869.88 --> 874.90]  It's not too difficult, honestly, if you don't copy-paste the wrong paths.
[875.64 --> 881.22]  But it could be easier if it was just an all self-contained app, like, for example, Plexus.
[881.34 --> 883.44]  I understand there's a bit of a debate there.
[884.00 --> 888.72]  Some people have the philosophy you just do the core application, and then you do one instance of Nginx,
[888.80 --> 892.48]  and one instance of your database, and maybe whatever else you might have.
[892.48 --> 895.58]  And don't run multiple copies of that software in a container.
[896.00 --> 899.96]  And I definitely think that's probably an appropriate setup for production.
[900.34 --> 903.86]  You know, anything that's in a business or enterprise or anything that's going to scale beyond a dozen users.
[904.00 --> 904.84]  Probably worth considering.
[905.44 --> 911.20]  But for this sort of scenario, the one that you're talking about now where you're going to run it on your home server,
[911.52 --> 914.78]  it's going to be you and your wife, and maybe me, and maybe Brent.
[915.56 --> 917.12]  They're going to use it total, right?
[917.12 --> 922.76]  And so there it does make a lot of sense to just have something that is maybe just a single Docker container.
[922.96 --> 924.58]  You pop it on your machine and you go.
[925.10 --> 927.84]  Particularly as it's not a super heavy application, right?
[927.90 --> 931.62]  It's a small Django app and an Nginx web server.
[931.92 --> 933.72]  Like, that's very tiny.
[934.40 --> 939.34]  Also, I mean, I know this is easy for me to say, but it wouldn't be impossible to have two types of containers.
[939.50 --> 943.86]  One that's just the application core and one that includes maybe the full suite of everything you need.
[943.86 --> 951.82]  Yeah, so Mr. Developer Man, Vabeen1111, if you're listening, that's pretty much the only feedback I have for you, really.
[952.12 --> 953.10]  The application's great.
[953.40 --> 959.36]  The stuff you've done over the last year plus improving this application is to be commended, truly.
[959.90 --> 964.76]  But the setup process, I know I saw in Reddit that you don't understand why people find it difficult.
[965.38 --> 970.94]  I hope just what we've articulated there helps a little bit of meat on that particular bone.
[970.94 --> 975.26]  And it's just linking different things together in people's different setups.
[975.44 --> 976.64]  You know, some people are running Unraid.
[976.74 --> 977.92]  Some people are running TrueNAS.
[978.24 --> 982.62]  I'm running Docker Compose through an Ansible templating thing that I created.
[982.82 --> 985.58]  So, you know, there's lots of different strokes for different folks.
[985.64 --> 990.14]  And anything you can do to reduce that deployment complexity is going to increase your adoption.
[990.40 --> 991.06]  It's as simple as that.
[991.74 --> 991.76]  Definitely.
[991.94 --> 992.34]  Well said.
[992.52 --> 994.20]  And I'm looking forward to getting this running.
[994.70 --> 997.54]  This is going to be something I know the wife and I are really going to enjoy.
[997.54 --> 1001.02]  But I don't think I'll be setting it up on my Proxmox system.
[1001.32 --> 1002.06]  Not yet.
[1002.50 --> 1003.82]  But I am planning to build one soon.
[1003.90 --> 1006.62]  And it sounds like we've got a brand new release that looks great.
[1006.96 --> 1007.36]  We do.
[1007.48 --> 1008.20]  7.2.
[1008.26 --> 1018.48]  Now, the headline feature for me, besides, you know, fun stuff like the Linux kernel getting a bump and QEMU and LXC and ZFS and all those things getting bumps to the latest versions,
[1019.10 --> 1023.52]  is support for the accelerated VertIO GL display driver.
[1024.68 --> 1025.02]  I know.
[1025.12 --> 1026.36]  It sounds thrilling, right?
[1026.36 --> 1027.08]  But hear me out.
[1027.08 --> 1030.26]  This particular display driver is in software.
[1030.92 --> 1033.60]  And I went from about 13 frames per second.
[1033.76 --> 1035.34]  We all know what that feels like.
[1035.42 --> 1039.24]  That's what the traditional VM in a browser has felt like for a decade.
[1039.82 --> 1044.34]  I went from about 10 or 15 frames a second to over 100.
[1044.68 --> 1046.22]  Hey, whoa, really?
[1046.50 --> 1048.18]  Just changing that feature.
[1048.48 --> 1051.00]  And there was no drivers required on the guest.
[1051.48 --> 1054.66]  I had to install a couple of packages on Proxmox itself.
[1054.66 --> 1056.62]  But it tells you what they are in the documentation.
[1057.08 --> 1058.00]  And that was it.
[1058.06 --> 1058.42]  I was done.
[1058.78 --> 1061.50]  And suddenly, I've got 10 times performance improvement.
[1061.60 --> 1062.58]  How often does that happen?
[1062.96 --> 1063.76]  That's huge.
[1064.44 --> 1068.02]  I can tell you, I've experienced that on Parallels on the M1 Max.
[1068.02 --> 1074.64]  When they added support for the M1 platform, they added VertIO and VertIO GL for the graphics pass-through.
[1074.80 --> 1079.56]  And it makes the desktop on Linux responsive like it's on the Metal.
[1079.74 --> 1080.88]  It's really, really great.
[1081.00 --> 1084.08]  And so how are you accessing this through Proxmox?
[1084.08 --> 1086.10]  Is it through the web console?
[1086.38 --> 1087.22]  Through the web browser?
[1087.48 --> 1088.84]  Yeah, nothing crazy at all.
[1088.98 --> 1093.82]  So there's a Spice client that connects to the VM's console in the browser.
[1094.18 --> 1096.24]  There's no hardware pass-through going on here.
[1096.30 --> 1097.24]  I want to be absolutely clear.
[1097.30 --> 1098.48]  This is all in software.
[1099.50 --> 1105.14]  Traditionally, we did a whole episode of Linux Unplugged a long time ago now on GPU pass-through
[1105.14 --> 1108.70]  and how much of a bitch it can be to get the right hardware and get the right software
[1108.70 --> 1110.76]  and everything all lined up just tickety-boo.
[1111.66 --> 1112.80]  It's a lot easier these days.
[1112.92 --> 1114.80]  Now, NVIDIA have kind of capitulated there.
[1114.96 --> 1116.30]  But I digress.
[1116.62 --> 1117.74]  This is all software.
[1118.24 --> 1124.08]  And, you know, I can't overstate just a 10x performance improvement right in front of my eyes.
[1124.08 --> 1131.04]  And so now I've gone from needing a spare laptop to test Linux desktop distros to get the feel, right,
[1131.10 --> 1134.30]  to get that high frame rate feel of what a new GNOME release feels like,
[1134.30 --> 1136.54]  what a new KDE Plasma release feels like.
[1136.78 --> 1140.08]  I can do this now in the browser from Proxmox.
[1140.20 --> 1142.40]  And it's so great.
[1142.88 --> 1143.64]  That's awesome.
[1143.92 --> 1148.30]  I'm, oh, I've decided Proxmox is going on the studio servers.
[1148.42 --> 1151.26]  We put a pullout to the audience again and said,
[1151.26 --> 1154.76]  what do you think of a Proxmox with Nix combo?
[1155.18 --> 1157.80]  Probably some open source in there, too, just to make the lizards happy.
[1158.30 --> 1162.26]  And we're going to have three systems, and at least two of them are going to be running Proxmox.
[1162.26 --> 1164.84]  And Proxmox is going to start with 7.2 out of the gate.
[1164.96 --> 1167.04]  So we're going to get this feature out of the gate.
[1167.44 --> 1168.64]  Proxmox is a great choice.
[1168.80 --> 1174.54]  There's a, it's a Debian user space with a modified Ubuntu kernel,
[1174.78 --> 1176.86]  which means that you get ZFS support as well.
[1176.86 --> 1179.96]  No DKMS nonsense to mess around with.
[1180.02 --> 1181.14]  It's just there.
[1181.14 --> 1185.32]  And you get a nice little GUI on top to manage your VMs.
[1185.40 --> 1187.50]  I mean, there's some other stuff, too.
[1187.58 --> 1189.68]  Like, they've got a pretty slick backup server.
[1190.48 --> 1194.16]  And, you know, the community around Proxmox is really starting to gather steam.
[1194.28 --> 1197.84]  I've really noticed in the last, I would say, two to three years,
[1197.84 --> 1200.32]  it's gone from being a kind of niche project.
[1200.66 --> 1203.28]  It's really up and coming right now.
[1203.64 --> 1204.54]  You know, they've been consistent.
[1204.96 --> 1207.72]  They've delivered over and over and over again with it.
[1207.72 --> 1209.06]  And I think that makes a difference.
[1209.28 --> 1212.38]  I've just seen their reputation get stronger and stronger.
[1213.14 --> 1215.56]  You know, if they're ever looking to sponsor, hit us up.
[1215.90 --> 1219.02]  We basically just gave them a pretty good plug right there for free, huh?
[1219.14 --> 1219.50]  I know.
[1219.92 --> 1221.30]  They're good for a while, aren't they?
[1221.34 --> 1223.64]  One other thing I want to point out that I thought was pretty cool,
[1223.76 --> 1226.56]  and this is a very minor annoyance, but if you're a Proxmox user,
[1226.78 --> 1228.22]  you will appreciate it.
[1228.70 --> 1231.76]  You can now set your default VM ID range.
[1231.76 --> 1234.18]  So when you go and click the button that says Create VM,
[1234.18 --> 1238.48]  it normally assigns a three-digit number, like 100, 102, whatever,
[1238.82 --> 1242.14]  and it will just do it sequentially based on the next number that's available,
[1242.38 --> 1243.88]  a bit like a DHCP reservation.
[1244.40 --> 1252.24]  Now I can select Start that range and end that range of the auto kind of like VM ID DHCP requests,
[1252.46 --> 1253.32]  for want of a better idea.
[1253.88 --> 1255.86]  I can select a range to put those numbers in,
[1256.02 --> 1260.64]  and I can have my kind of normal VMs sit at the top where I see them all the time,
[1260.64 --> 1264.30]  and then my more ephemeral stuff sits at the bottom out of the way where I use it for testing.
[1266.10 --> 1268.22]  Linode.com slash SSH.
[1268.32 --> 1271.24]  Go there to get $100 in 60-day credit on a new account,
[1271.34 --> 1273.58]  and you go there to support this here show.
[1273.96 --> 1274.36]  That's right.
[1274.46 --> 1276.68]  It's made possible by you taking advantage of our sponsor,
[1277.16 --> 1280.44]  and of course Linode is one that we enthusiastically endorse.
[1280.44 --> 1282.26]  They started in 2003,
[1282.46 --> 1286.60]  and they have been building the best service to run applications on Linux since.
[1287.10 --> 1289.12]  And you can also use as part of a multi-cloud strategy.
[1289.12 --> 1291.80]  Like, I do this, I have some servers on my LAN,
[1291.92 --> 1295.90]  and I have the bulk of all of our audience-facing systems on Linode.
[1296.28 --> 1298.10]  And we also have some of our work systems on there, too.
[1298.18 --> 1300.24]  So I kind of pick and choose based on the workload,
[1300.30 --> 1304.16]  and what I love about it is they've got pricing that makes that really accessible.
[1304.36 --> 1307.48]  So some systems, they start at just $5 a month.
[1307.52 --> 1311.20]  Other systems, they have a lot more options, like AMD Epic processors.
[1311.54 --> 1314.28]  We have one box that has 96 gigs of RAM, right?
[1314.32 --> 1316.18]  I mean, you can really max this stuff out.
[1316.74 --> 1318.62]  48 CPU cores in that box.
[1318.62 --> 1319.98]  It's NVMe hard drives.
[1320.48 --> 1321.06]  They're great.
[1321.16 --> 1323.68]  And then, of course, they have 11 data centers for you to choose from.
[1323.74 --> 1326.52]  So you're going to find something close to you or your customers,
[1326.66 --> 1327.58]  depending on how you're doing it.
[1327.80 --> 1329.04]  They've also got a great dashboard.
[1329.20 --> 1330.60]  They've got the best support in the business.
[1330.66 --> 1331.94]  We hear that all the time.
[1332.34 --> 1334.42]  The other thing that we hear from the audience all the time is that
[1334.42 --> 1337.98]  they'll deploy themselves a server for just, like, their family,
[1338.08 --> 1341.78]  for, like, a gaming server or Nextcloud or Photos or whatever it might be.
[1342.36 --> 1344.36]  Recently, and I never really thought about doing this,
[1344.36 --> 1348.50]  but recently I heard from an audience member, he runs PyHole up on Linode,
[1348.62 --> 1351.40]  and then he points all of his systems to that, even his laptop and stuff
[1351.40 --> 1352.52]  and his family member's laptop.
[1352.68 --> 1355.68]  So when they're traveling, they're always using his DNS system,
[1355.68 --> 1357.64]  and they're getting the filtering up on Linode.
[1357.64 --> 1358.80]  That's great.
[1359.02 --> 1361.76]  And when you get $100, you can play around with stuff like that,
[1361.94 --> 1364.10]  see what sticks, see if the value's really there.
[1364.24 --> 1366.88]  And it's a great way to support the show and learn something.
[1367.44 --> 1370.92]  So go to linode.com slash SSH.
[1371.06 --> 1373.84]  You go there, you get that $100, you go deploy something,
[1373.92 --> 1375.62]  you go learn something, you support the show.
[1375.98 --> 1376.68]  It's a win-win.
[1377.24 --> 1379.74]  Linode.com slash SSH.
[1379.74 --> 1384.16]  Now, after my buddy Brent went home the other day,
[1384.60 --> 1388.58]  I was sat in my basement by myself, Billy No Mates,
[1389.22 --> 1391.98]  within earshot of my server, just doing some tinkering around,
[1392.04 --> 1393.30]  because we did some electrics down there,
[1393.32 --> 1396.10]  and I wanted to automate something that we'd put in
[1396.10 --> 1397.98]  with one of the Shelleys in a light switch.
[1398.48 --> 1400.74]  And I was sat next to my server, and I could just hear...
[1402.26 --> 1405.24]  Oh, no.
[1405.50 --> 1406.52]  And I was like, oh, no.
[1407.18 --> 1407.84]  Dead disk.
[1408.28 --> 1409.88]  Turns out it wasn't the cable, people.
[1410.64 --> 1411.40]  Oh, right.
[1411.46 --> 1412.90]  Last time you thought it was the cable.
[1413.26 --> 1414.72]  Oh, no, it really was going.
[1414.96 --> 1415.98]  It really was the drive.
[1416.14 --> 1418.48]  So quick trip to Best Buy the next morning,
[1419.14 --> 1421.20]  bought a new 14 terabyte easy store,
[1421.32 --> 1422.78]  ripped that bad boy out of the case,
[1423.00 --> 1425.78]  and it's now in my backup server doing my whole, like,
[1426.44 --> 1429.76]  pre-clear ritual testing burn-in thing.
[1430.08 --> 1430.76]  No data loss?
[1430.76 --> 1433.22]  No, luckily I was able to just copy all the data
[1433.22 --> 1435.30]  from the failing drive
[1435.30 --> 1438.60]  onto the rest of my MergerFS array.
[1439.20 --> 1441.16]  I actually had more than 10 terabytes free,
[1441.28 --> 1441.92]  so I was lucky.
[1442.58 --> 1444.06]  There, really, I could do that.
[1444.18 --> 1445.44]  I just removed it from the array
[1445.44 --> 1447.20]  and copied everything across with our sync.
[1447.20 --> 1449.02]  What do you think it would take
[1449.02 --> 1451.52]  for a new file system
[1451.52 --> 1452.94]  to work its way into your life,
[1453.00 --> 1455.04]  for you to find a new love for a file system?
[1455.36 --> 1456.92]  Just say hypothetically, like,
[1456.98 --> 1458.10]  BcacheFS comes out.
[1458.46 --> 1459.42]  It's so great.
[1459.48 --> 1462.00]  It's XFS meets ButterFS meets ZFS,
[1462.28 --> 1464.24]  and it's just next-level performance, too.
[1464.78 --> 1465.90]  What would it take for you to switch?
[1465.98 --> 1467.66]  Would it be a matter of years?
[1468.32 --> 1470.30]  Would it be something you'd start experimenting with
[1470.30 --> 1471.10]  sooner than later?
[1471.10 --> 1474.94]  I don't know as I have a need for anything new.
[1475.22 --> 1477.04]  My needs through MergerFS have been met
[1477.04 --> 1478.56]  so comprehensively.
[1479.10 --> 1479.78]  Back in the day,
[1479.90 --> 1481.32]  if you look at the Perfect Media Server
[1481.32 --> 1482.80]  kind of blog post series,
[1482.98 --> 1485.26]  you can kind of see my transition over the years
[1485.26 --> 1489.60]  from, I think it was AUFS to MHDDFS
[1489.60 --> 1493.56]  to MDRAID through ZFS even
[1493.56 --> 1494.96]  for actual media files,
[1495.20 --> 1498.22]  and then I ended up with just EXT4 and XFS
[1498.22 --> 1501.24]  on the drives themselves kind of bridged
[1501.24 --> 1502.62]  with MergerFS on top.
[1503.22 --> 1505.58]  It's just been so reliable for, what,
[1505.68 --> 1506.56]  six or seven years?
[1506.66 --> 1508.34]  I don't even know when I wrote that first post.
[1508.42 --> 1509.22]  It was a long time ago.
[1509.92 --> 1510.42]  I don't know.
[1510.52 --> 1512.74]  Like, I felt the need to add ZFS
[1512.74 --> 1515.78]  into the setup for data I truly care about,
[1516.02 --> 1518.60]  mostly for replication ease and stuff like that,
[1518.98 --> 1520.44]  but I've kind of solved that now
[1520.44 --> 1522.20]  with RESTIC as well.
[1522.96 --> 1524.76]  So I've got a couple of ways I back stuff up
[1524.76 --> 1526.02]  for the important data,
[1526.02 --> 1528.18]  but for media files that are write once,
[1528.32 --> 1530.00]  read a couple of times probably,
[1531.18 --> 1532.44]  MergerFS does everything I need.
[1532.58 --> 1535.02]  What are you hinting at there, Chris?
[1535.34 --> 1537.42]  Well, so the word on the street,
[1537.54 --> 1539.18]  although we'll see if this really pans out,
[1539.24 --> 1540.22]  but the word on the street
[1540.22 --> 1542.02]  is that we're going to see BcacheFS
[1542.02 --> 1543.62]  hit the Linux kernel
[1543.62 --> 1545.22]  in about the next six months or so,
[1545.30 --> 1546.06]  maybe a little bit longer,
[1546.32 --> 1547.26]  but it's nigh.
[1547.96 --> 1549.62]  And the developer, Kent Overstreet,
[1549.72 --> 1551.22]  recently said that his goal
[1551.22 --> 1553.74]  is to essentially make a file system
[1553.74 --> 1554.92]  that does just that.
[1555.00 --> 1555.68]  It kind of replaces,
[1556.28 --> 1559.10]  or it offers the advantages of XFS,
[1559.30 --> 1561.44]  which XFS is a very solid,
[1561.54 --> 1562.92]  very tried and true file system.
[1563.30 --> 1565.52]  And with some of the benefits of ButterFS,
[1565.76 --> 1567.20]  like copy on write,
[1567.40 --> 1568.74]  snapshots, stuff like that.
[1568.90 --> 1569.32]  That's pretty cool.
[1569.60 --> 1570.64]  He was asked recently,
[1570.90 --> 1572.08]  who's using BcacheFS?
[1572.24 --> 1573.64]  Is anybody using it in production?
[1573.88 --> 1574.74]  And he said, well,
[1574.78 --> 1577.20]  I do know that a lot of video shops
[1577.20 --> 1579.74]  that are dealing with multiple 4K streams
[1580.26 --> 1581.46]  are using BcacheFS.
[1581.46 --> 1583.18]  And it made me think,
[1583.28 --> 1584.04]  like, I think every time
[1584.04 --> 1585.84]  I've switched a major file system,
[1585.94 --> 1589.00]  it's been to solve a performance problem
[1589.00 --> 1590.72]  or a scalability problem.
[1591.20 --> 1593.30]  Like, I really finally gave in
[1593.30 --> 1594.92]  and tried ButterFS for real
[1594.92 --> 1597.42]  when I needed to solve storage issues
[1597.42 --> 1598.30]  on a Raspberry Pi,
[1598.42 --> 1599.92]  and I just wasn't going to use ZFS.
[1600.26 --> 1601.30]  I had no choice.
[1601.50 --> 1602.90]  So I had to learn ButterFS,
[1603.20 --> 1603.92]  and then I learned that
[1603.92 --> 1604.96]  I actually liked it quite a bit.
[1605.08 --> 1606.46]  But I only did it
[1606.46 --> 1607.76]  when I was trying to solve,
[1607.80 --> 1609.02]  like, a new problem.
[1609.02 --> 1611.18]  And I just wonder, you know,
[1611.24 --> 1613.22]  like, BcacheFS is going to come along one day.
[1613.78 --> 1614.76]  It's going to be great,
[1614.84 --> 1615.64]  no doubt about it.
[1615.74 --> 1619.70]  But I'm kind of of the school of thought
[1619.70 --> 1620.82]  that when it comes to my data,
[1621.44 --> 1622.98]  I like to give that stuff years.
[1623.34 --> 1624.74]  You know, years of cooking,
[1625.06 --> 1626.80]  years of other people using it in production.
[1626.96 --> 1627.78]  That's just one area
[1627.78 --> 1630.12]  where I'll kind of tap the brakes a little bit.
[1630.22 --> 1631.22]  And so that's why it took me a while
[1631.22 --> 1632.84]  to come around to ButterFS,
[1633.00 --> 1633.40]  to be honest.
[1633.94 --> 1636.24]  That's really what I love about ZFS.
[1636.24 --> 1637.80]  I know it has a bit of a learning curve
[1637.80 --> 1639.52]  and a bit of an aura around it,
[1639.72 --> 1642.10]  but what are you laughing at?
[1642.12 --> 1642.58]  An aura.
[1642.92 --> 1644.06]  I think a bit of an aura
[1644.06 --> 1645.08]  is a funny way to put it.
[1645.32 --> 1645.48]  Yeah.
[1645.84 --> 1646.44]  But it does.
[1646.78 --> 1648.18]  I mean, just listen to you and Alan
[1648.18 --> 1649.38]  back in the day on TechSnap.
[1649.50 --> 1650.60]  Like, you made it sound like
[1650.60 --> 1652.30]  this massive, complex beast,
[1652.34 --> 1653.02]  and actually it's not.
[1653.10 --> 1655.24]  It's just two drives in a mirror, right?
[1655.38 --> 1656.18]  I mean, that's it.
[1656.22 --> 1657.06]  That's what I use anyway.
[1658.56 --> 1658.88]  Yeah.
[1659.32 --> 1659.82]  It does.
[1659.92 --> 1660.80]  It can be very complex,
[1661.02 --> 1661.68]  but yeah.
[1662.58 --> 1663.72]  Not so bad, really.
[1663.72 --> 1666.10]  So I'm glad that you got it found.
[1666.26 --> 1667.72]  I'm sorry there was actually the drive
[1667.72 --> 1668.54]  and not the cable, though.
[1668.56 --> 1669.26]  That does stink.
[1669.68 --> 1670.52]  Well, so this presents
[1670.52 --> 1671.56]  an interesting opportunity
[1671.56 --> 1672.92]  for content, actually.
[1673.18 --> 1675.10]  So this will be the first shut drive
[1675.10 --> 1676.20]  that I've had fail on me.
[1676.82 --> 1679.00]  I don't have the plastic casing anymore.
[1679.12 --> 1679.78]  I chucked that out
[1679.78 --> 1680.90]  as a matter of principle.
[1681.70 --> 1682.80]  So I'm really interested
[1682.80 --> 1683.68]  to see what happens
[1683.68 --> 1685.66]  when I send this 12 terabyte drive,
[1685.72 --> 1687.40]  which is only about 15 months old,
[1687.50 --> 1688.58]  back to Western Digital.
[1689.06 --> 1690.32]  It came with a two-year warranty,
[1690.32 --> 1692.14]  and there's apparently something called
[1692.14 --> 1693.78]  the Magnuson Moss Act,
[1693.84 --> 1694.54]  I think that's what it is.
[1694.98 --> 1696.96]  If they try and play funny buggers with it,
[1697.04 --> 1698.54]  I can quote them and say that,
[1698.70 --> 1699.44]  and apparently then
[1699.44 --> 1700.28]  they'll just capitulate
[1700.28 --> 1701.48]  and send me their replacement
[1701.48 --> 1703.60]  reconditioned drive
[1703.60 --> 1704.58]  because they can't prove
[1704.58 --> 1706.00]  that my shucking it broke it
[1706.00 --> 1706.56]  or something.
[1707.44 --> 1708.86]  Let's talk a little Ansible,
[1709.04 --> 1710.60]  one of our favorite topics here,
[1710.72 --> 1712.40]  and I think maybe one we should
[1712.40 --> 1714.66]  probably share a little more on the show
[1714.66 --> 1716.16]  as Brent begins his journey
[1716.16 --> 1717.48]  down the Ansible lane.
[1717.48 --> 1718.60]  But in the meantime,
[1719.04 --> 1720.54]  before we go down Ansible lane,
[1720.62 --> 1721.84]  maybe we should stop off
[1721.84 --> 1723.48]  on Bitwarden Drive.
[1723.72 --> 1724.28]  What do you got here?
[1724.62 --> 1726.14]  What about if I put some peanut butter
[1726.14 --> 1726.90]  with the chocolate?
[1727.32 --> 1728.96]  Yeah, that sounds perfect for me.
[1729.06 --> 1730.08]  And bring Ansible together
[1730.08 --> 1731.08]  with Bitwarden.
[1731.28 --> 1731.76]  How about that?
[1731.82 --> 1732.12]  Right.
[1732.50 --> 1734.00]  That sounds good, actually.
[1734.52 --> 1736.24]  There was a chat happening on Discord,
[1736.40 --> 1737.40]  I think it was this morning,
[1738.08 --> 1740.22]  where Orange, Jake,
[1740.40 --> 1742.02]  who was on the show a little while ago,
[1742.08 --> 1742.96]  was talking about
[1742.96 --> 1745.10]  how he uses Ansible Vault
[1745.10 --> 1746.66]  crossed with Bitwarden.
[1746.66 --> 1748.34]  There is a reference
[1748.34 --> 1749.50]  to one of my favorite
[1749.50 --> 1751.04]  bash.org moments
[1751.04 --> 1753.18]  where his demo password
[1753.18 --> 1753.94]  is hunter2.
[1754.14 --> 1754.94]  Those that know,
[1755.08 --> 1756.62]  know about that one.
[1757.88 --> 1758.46]  But essentially,
[1758.72 --> 1759.86]  what this allows me to do
[1759.86 --> 1762.34]  is use Bitwarden
[1762.34 --> 1763.92]  as my credential store
[1763.92 --> 1765.32]  for my Ansible Vault
[1765.32 --> 1766.42]  encryption password.
[1766.92 --> 1768.10]  So all of my secrets
[1768.10 --> 1769.50]  remain encrypted
[1769.50 --> 1770.56]  using Ansible Vault
[1770.56 --> 1772.56]  with 256-bit blah, blah, blah
[1772.56 --> 1774.24]  as a file that I store
[1774.24 --> 1775.62]  version controlled in Git.
[1775.62 --> 1776.96]  And what I'm doing now
[1776.96 --> 1777.72]  is rather than having
[1777.72 --> 1778.88]  a clear text file
[1778.88 --> 1779.72]  sitting on disk
[1779.72 --> 1780.90]  to decrypt that file,
[1781.10 --> 1782.22]  I am now using
[1782.22 --> 1783.60]  the Bitwarden CLI
[1783.60 --> 1784.76]  to connect
[1784.76 --> 1786.92]  the Vault password
[1786.92 --> 1788.60]  that I've now put in Bitwarden
[1788.60 --> 1790.10]  to unlock
[1790.10 --> 1790.80]  that
[1790.80 --> 1792.64]  encrypted file
[1792.64 --> 1793.08]  in Ansible.
[1793.30 --> 1794.04]  This feels like
[1794.04 --> 1795.04]  it could be pretty powerful.
[1795.50 --> 1796.48]  I think I'm understanding.
[1796.82 --> 1796.84]  But
[1796.84 --> 1798.20]  so essentially,
[1798.32 --> 1798.98]  as Ansible
[1798.98 --> 1799.88]  is setting up a machine,
[1799.88 --> 1801.14]  if it needs to deploy software
[1801.14 --> 1802.14]  that needs some sort of
[1802.14 --> 1803.00]  secret password
[1803.00 --> 1804.18]  or key,
[1804.82 --> 1806.08]  instead of having to put
[1806.08 --> 1806.56]  that somewhere
[1806.56 --> 1807.74]  in the Ansible config
[1807.74 --> 1808.36]  or whatever,
[1809.10 --> 1810.08]  there's now an option
[1810.08 --> 1810.78]  to have,
[1811.12 --> 1812.30]  as Ansible is deploying,
[1812.80 --> 1814.38]  use the Bitwarden CLI
[1814.38 --> 1815.82]  to look that password up
[1815.82 --> 1817.12]  and sort of insert
[1817.12 --> 1817.64]  that password
[1817.64 --> 1818.70]  as it's being deployed.
[1819.06 --> 1819.50]  Is that right?
[1820.00 --> 1820.74]  You could do that
[1820.74 --> 1821.92]  using the Lookup plugin,
[1822.02 --> 1822.44]  I think.
[1822.66 --> 1823.96]  But the way that we're doing it
[1823.96 --> 1825.08]  right now,
[1825.12 --> 1825.46]  at least,
[1825.46 --> 1826.50]  is using a...
[1826.50 --> 1827.54]  So you can actually...
[1827.54 --> 1828.34]  This is a really neat trick
[1828.34 --> 1828.90]  that I didn't know
[1828.90 --> 1829.58]  until this morning.
[1830.36 --> 1831.48]  You can put in
[1831.48 --> 1832.64]  your Ansible config
[1832.64 --> 1835.98]  the vault file location
[1835.98 --> 1836.96]  as a script.
[1837.36 --> 1838.70]  And in that script,
[1838.88 --> 1839.74]  you can actually have it
[1839.74 --> 1841.40]  do the Bitwarden CLI
[1841.40 --> 1843.24]  export lookup
[1843.24 --> 1844.24]  thing of the password.
[1844.78 --> 1845.96]  And then it returns it
[1845.96 --> 1846.42]  as a string,
[1846.50 --> 1847.16]  which then feeds
[1847.16 --> 1847.88]  into the
[1847.88 --> 1850.06]  rest of the process.
[1850.50 --> 1851.66]  So all I'm doing,
[1851.66 --> 1852.36]  I haven't moved
[1852.36 --> 1853.18]  any of the secrets
[1853.18 --> 1853.86]  themselves
[1853.86 --> 1854.82]  out of Ansible,
[1854.98 --> 1855.60]  out of the vault
[1855.60 --> 1856.24]  in Ansible,
[1856.56 --> 1857.84]  but I've moved
[1857.84 --> 1859.24]  the vault password
[1859.24 --> 1860.80]  from a local text file
[1860.80 --> 1861.64]  on my laptop
[1861.64 --> 1863.26]  into Bitwarden.
[1863.42 --> 1864.20]  And now I've connected
[1864.20 --> 1864.84]  the two together
[1864.84 --> 1865.86]  using Orange's post.
[1868.12 --> 1869.02]  Very nice.
[1869.30 --> 1870.28]  We'll have links to this
[1870.28 --> 1871.56]  so you can follow along.
[1871.64 --> 1872.22]  We'll have links to this
[1872.22 --> 1872.68]  in the show notes,
[1872.76 --> 1873.00]  of course,
[1873.10 --> 1874.54]  at selfhosted.show
[1874.54 --> 1875.28]  slash 71.
[1875.86 --> 1876.30]  I thought it'd be
[1876.30 --> 1876.82]  really difficult,
[1876.98 --> 1877.58]  but it turned out
[1877.58 --> 1878.72]  to be about a five
[1878.72 --> 1879.90]  or ten line change.
[1880.42 --> 1881.04]  There'll be a commit
[1881.04 --> 1882.52]  in the show notes
[1882.52 --> 1883.04]  if you're curious
[1883.04 --> 1884.20]  just to how easy it is.
[1884.62 --> 1885.18]  Easier than getting
[1885.18 --> 1886.34]  the recipe app going.
[1887.10 --> 1887.78]  Much easier.
[1887.84 --> 1888.14]  Yes.
[1891.14 --> 1891.82]  We love you,
[1891.86 --> 1892.10]  Tandor.
[1892.14 --> 1892.62]  We love you.
[1893.06 --> 1893.46]  We've been having
[1893.46 --> 1893.94]  a lot of fun
[1893.94 --> 1894.38]  on the Discord
[1894.38 --> 1895.34]  over the last couple
[1895.34 --> 1896.40]  of weeks with Ansible
[1896.40 --> 1897.20]  and Infrastructure's
[1897.20 --> 1897.86]  Code Talk,
[1897.92 --> 1898.90]  as you can probably tell
[1898.90 --> 1899.76]  from how much
[1899.76 --> 1900.50]  of it's in the show.
[1900.98 --> 1901.78]  One of the things
[1901.78 --> 1902.62]  I decided to do
[1902.62 --> 1903.54]  when Brent was here,
[1903.88 --> 1904.86]  he just flippantly
[1904.86 --> 1905.56]  asked me,
[1905.76 --> 1907.28]  can you do DNS
[1907.28 --> 1908.28]  from your Docker
[1908.28 --> 1909.08]  Compose generator?
[1909.52 --> 1910.00]  And I was like,
[1910.28 --> 1910.62]  sure.
[1911.54 --> 1912.34]  Knowing full well
[1912.34 --> 1912.92]  I couldn't,
[1913.02 --> 1913.62]  but how hard
[1913.62 --> 1914.34]  could it be, right?
[1914.34 --> 1916.06]  It turned out
[1916.06 --> 1917.40]  to be quite
[1917.40 --> 1918.36]  the operation.
[1918.52 --> 1919.00]  It took me about
[1919.00 --> 1919.84]  two or three days
[1919.84 --> 1920.34]  with the help
[1920.34 --> 1921.16]  of about four
[1921.16 --> 1922.06]  or five people
[1922.06 --> 1922.54]  on Discord
[1922.54 --> 1924.34]  to write possibly
[1924.34 --> 1925.16]  one of the most,
[1925.42 --> 1926.42]  dare I say it,
[1926.42 --> 1927.68]  over-engineered
[1927.68 --> 1929.00]  Ansible tasks ever.
[1929.38 --> 1930.20]  This thing essentially
[1930.20 --> 1932.04]  takes a traffic label,
[1932.84 --> 1934.12]  strips out with regex,
[1934.32 --> 1936.50]  a bunch of stuff
[1936.50 --> 1938.30]  surrounding the bit
[1938.30 --> 1939.10]  of data I want,
[1939.18 --> 1939.76]  which is, you know,
[1939.76 --> 1940.74]  the hostname of like
[1940.74 --> 1943.20]  test.jupiterbroadcasting.com.
[1943.34 --> 1943.98]  That's the bit
[1943.98 --> 1944.76]  I actually want,
[1945.12 --> 1946.16]  but I had to find a way
[1946.16 --> 1946.90]  to iterate over
[1946.90 --> 1947.54]  all the labels
[1947.54 --> 1948.62]  in the nested list
[1948.62 --> 1949.62]  that I have in Ansible
[1949.62 --> 1951.68]  and then extract them
[1951.68 --> 1953.40]  and do what I need to do
[1953.40 --> 1954.58]  and then only act on them
[1954.58 --> 1958.54]  when the item in the list
[1958.54 --> 1960.42]  was set to active equals true.
[1961.22 --> 1962.40]  There was a lot of logic in there.
[1962.82 --> 1964.26]  Anyway, the upshot is
[1964.26 --> 1966.12]  we can now specify
[1966.12 --> 1967.94]  for all of the self-hosted
[1967.94 --> 1969.18]  JB infrastructure
[1969.18 --> 1972.36]  simply by adding a container
[1972.36 --> 1973.76]  with a traffic label
[1973.76 --> 1976.74]  into our composed definition file,
[1977.42 --> 1978.86]  we add the DNS record
[1978.86 --> 1980.68]  automatically into Cloudflare.
[1981.16 --> 1981.56]  Hmm.
[1982.06 --> 1984.68]  That is pretty damn slick.
[1984.78 --> 1986.48]  So just by having the label
[1986.48 --> 1987.36]  for traffic,
[1987.62 --> 1988.98]  it figures out from there
[1988.98 --> 1990.60]  what the hostname should be
[1990.60 --> 1991.06]  and all of that?
[1991.20 --> 1991.68]  Absolutely.
[1992.04 --> 1992.66]  Yeah, that's it.
[1993.22 --> 1994.62]  And what's particularly fun
[1994.62 --> 1995.74]  is, you know,
[1995.78 --> 1996.74]  let's say I wanted to spin up
[1996.74 --> 1997.90]  an Nginx just to test,
[1997.98 --> 1998.46]  for example.
[1998.46 --> 2000.00]  I just copy and paste
[2000.00 --> 2000.58]  that in there
[2000.58 --> 2001.72]  and if I put test.
[2002.02 --> 2002.90]  As long as the domain's
[2002.90 --> 2004.04]  in my Cloudflare account
[2004.04 --> 2005.16]  or I have permissions,
[2005.30 --> 2006.26]  like you've given me
[2006.26 --> 2007.56]  delegated permissions
[2007.56 --> 2008.66]  on jb.com,
[2008.80 --> 2010.02]  I can add something
[2010.02 --> 2011.10]  into that Git repo
[2011.10 --> 2012.68]  and we could then theoretically
[2012.68 --> 2014.20]  have a continuous integration
[2014.20 --> 2015.26]  GitHub action
[2015.26 --> 2017.00]  that would pick up that change
[2017.00 --> 2018.70]  and deploy that new container
[2018.70 --> 2020.56]  and also the DNS records
[2020.56 --> 2021.22]  in Cloudflare
[2021.22 --> 2022.60]  automatically for us.
[2022.84 --> 2023.98]  Ha ha ha ha!
[2024.36 --> 2026.08]  That's what I'm talking about, Alex.
[2026.14 --> 2027.20]  That is awesome.
[2027.20 --> 2028.00]  It's really cool.
[2028.10 --> 2028.88]  That is awesome.
[2029.00 --> 2031.02]  And that is such a great example
[2031.02 --> 2032.88]  of, we recently were talking
[2032.88 --> 2034.64]  about Nix and Nix packages
[2034.64 --> 2036.12]  and managing Nix OS
[2036.12 --> 2038.06]  and all of that
[2038.06 --> 2039.40]  being a deterministic system
[2039.40 --> 2040.72]  and how it compared
[2040.72 --> 2041.28]  to Ansible.
[2041.48 --> 2042.60]  And this is such a great example
[2042.60 --> 2043.68]  where you can go much further
[2043.68 --> 2044.12]  with Ansible.
[2044.26 --> 2045.02]  You can go much beyond
[2045.02 --> 2046.70]  just what you can do
[2046.70 --> 2047.14]  with Nix.
[2047.42 --> 2048.04]  Very exciting.
[2048.34 --> 2050.02]  It makes me pumped
[2050.02 --> 2050.90]  to kind of redo
[2050.90 --> 2052.12]  some of this infrastructure stuff
[2052.12 --> 2053.28]  and do it like this
[2053.28 --> 2054.10]  from the beginning
[2054.10 --> 2055.52]  because, like,
[2055.66 --> 2056.34]  down the road
[2056.34 --> 2058.16]  it's just going to make
[2058.16 --> 2059.04]  future deployments
[2059.04 --> 2060.50]  so much simpler, right?
[2060.68 --> 2062.04]  That's really it.
[2062.04 --> 2063.46]  When you spin up a new show
[2063.46 --> 2064.32]  or decide you're going to
[2064.32 --> 2065.20]  have a garage sale
[2065.20 --> 2065.98]  or whatever it is,
[2066.14 --> 2068.02]  it's all automatic.
[2068.38 --> 2069.18]  That's so great.
[2069.66 --> 2071.82]  Yeah, and done once
[2071.82 --> 2072.96]  and now it's done.
[2073.36 --> 2074.58]  One of my favorite tricks
[2074.58 --> 2076.02]  in this particular task
[2076.02 --> 2076.98]  and there are a couple.
[2076.98 --> 2079.20]  One is to use JSON query
[2079.20 --> 2081.72]  to create a dictionary
[2081.72 --> 2083.56]  that I can then split
[2083.56 --> 2084.82]  and join and what have you
[2084.82 --> 2086.46]  within the task itself.
[2087.22 --> 2089.04]  The other one is to use
[2089.04 --> 2091.14]  what's called a ternary operator.
[2091.76 --> 2092.30]  Now, Ginger,
[2092.46 --> 2093.78]  which is the templating language
[2093.78 --> 2094.70]  that Ansible has,
[2095.42 --> 2096.56]  is pretty amazing
[2096.56 --> 2098.12]  and you can do a lot of cool stuff.
[2098.48 --> 2099.66]  But I was running into an issue
[2099.66 --> 2102.54]  where my item.active contents
[2102.54 --> 2104.12]  was either true or false
[2104.12 --> 2105.60]  and the Ansible module
[2105.60 --> 2106.50]  was expecting
[2106.50 --> 2109.04]  the phrase present or absent.
[2109.32 --> 2110.24]  Now, you as a human
[2110.24 --> 2111.10]  can work out that
[2111.10 --> 2112.12]  true equals present
[2112.12 --> 2113.60]  and the absent equals false.
[2114.42 --> 2115.76]  Computer is stupid.
[2116.00 --> 2116.94]  You have to tell computer
[2116.94 --> 2117.42]  this thing.
[2118.14 --> 2120.12]  Turns out with the ternary operator,
[2120.38 --> 2121.48]  we can actually do that.
[2121.74 --> 2122.80]  So if we pass in
[2122.80 --> 2124.06]  a true or false statement
[2124.06 --> 2126.14]  into the ternary operator
[2126.14 --> 2127.12]  and then specify
[2127.12 --> 2128.44]  just a couple of other values,
[2129.08 --> 2130.52]  present and absent in this case,
[2130.70 --> 2132.12]  we can have true or false
[2132.12 --> 2133.98]  actually be any other string
[2133.98 --> 2134.78]  that we require.
[2135.46 --> 2136.20]  Very simple.
[2136.20 --> 2136.98]  Very cool.
[2136.98 --> 2139.96]  tailscale.com
[2139.96 --> 2141.44]  slash self-hosted.
[2141.52 --> 2142.00]  Go there to get
[2142.00 --> 2142.98]  a free personal account
[2142.98 --> 2144.42]  for up to 20 devices
[2144.42 --> 2146.08]  and you support the show.
[2146.52 --> 2148.60]  Tailscale is a zero-config VPN.
[2148.96 --> 2150.24]  You get it on any device
[2150.24 --> 2150.82]  in minutes.
[2151.00 --> 2151.64]  It'll manage
[2151.64 --> 2152.68]  your firewall rules.
[2152.78 --> 2153.30]  It'll help with
[2153.30 --> 2154.26]  double-carrier grade,
[2154.36 --> 2155.00]  crazy NAT,
[2155.10 --> 2155.70]  all of that.
[2155.80 --> 2156.74]  I'm using Tailscale
[2156.74 --> 2158.16]  right now.
[2158.66 --> 2159.22]  In fact,
[2159.56 --> 2160.30]  Alex and I were using
[2160.30 --> 2161.50]  Tailscale earlier today
[2161.50 --> 2162.16]  as well
[2162.16 --> 2163.24]  in a way that I haven't
[2163.24 --> 2164.14]  really used it before.
[2164.26 --> 2165.16]  Tell me about the fanciness
[2165.16 --> 2165.68]  that we were doing.
[2165.82 --> 2166.64]  Share it with the people,
[2166.74 --> 2166.96]  actually.
[2167.22 --> 2168.42]  Well, I span up Tandor
[2168.42 --> 2169.32]  on my LAN
[2169.32 --> 2170.06]  and I thought,
[2170.14 --> 2170.88]  oh, it'd be pretty cool
[2170.88 --> 2171.78]  if I could just share
[2171.78 --> 2173.16]  this demo instance with Chris
[2173.16 --> 2174.12]  because you're having some issues
[2174.12 --> 2175.08]  with their public demo.
[2175.58 --> 2177.60]  So I went into my Tailscale dashboard
[2177.60 --> 2179.36]  and I clicked sharing settings,
[2180.00 --> 2181.30]  got a link to share
[2181.30 --> 2182.58]  one of my specific hosts,
[2183.02 --> 2183.72]  my Docker host,
[2183.82 --> 2184.30]  with you.
[2184.74 --> 2186.12]  You accept a couple of things
[2186.12 --> 2187.44]  in your Tailscale dashboard
[2187.44 --> 2188.20]  on your end.
[2188.68 --> 2189.24]  Straight away,
[2189.32 --> 2190.02]  you've got access
[2190.02 --> 2191.68]  just to that specific host,
[2192.14 --> 2193.12]  but you could also use it
[2193.12 --> 2194.26]  as an exit node as well.
[2194.40 --> 2196.06]  So let's say you have a friend
[2196.06 --> 2197.94]  geographically
[2197.94 --> 2200.40]  in a useful place for you.
[2200.58 --> 2201.76]  You could ask that friend
[2201.76 --> 2203.26]  to share just that VM
[2203.26 --> 2204.20]  or whatever it is
[2204.20 --> 2205.50]  and you won't have access
[2205.50 --> 2207.48]  to the rest of that person's LAN
[2207.48 --> 2209.42]  only to that specific host
[2209.42 --> 2210.88]  and only as an exit node
[2210.88 --> 2211.76]  if they permit it.
[2212.12 --> 2213.12]  Yep, it is a superpower
[2213.12 --> 2214.32]  and it's something
[2214.32 --> 2215.22]  that just makes
[2215.22 --> 2216.12]  collaborating with people
[2216.12 --> 2217.56]  so great.
[2217.56 --> 2219.30]  And the way Tailscale works
[2219.30 --> 2220.88]  is it uses WireGuard's
[2220.88 --> 2221.54]  noise protocol
[2221.54 --> 2223.82]  to create a flat mesh network
[2223.82 --> 2225.04]  between all of your machines.
[2225.48 --> 2226.82]  And if you've got two machines
[2226.82 --> 2228.20]  on the same LAN
[2228.20 --> 2228.86]  and you're talking
[2228.86 --> 2230.12]  to their Tailscale IPs,
[2230.44 --> 2231.36]  it figures that out
[2231.36 --> 2232.32]  and it actually will just
[2232.32 --> 2233.08]  go over your LAN.
[2233.14 --> 2234.06]  It doesn't need to go through
[2234.06 --> 2235.10]  some central proxy
[2235.10 --> 2236.06]  or anything like that.
[2236.36 --> 2238.30]  They have a authorization backplane
[2238.30 --> 2239.02]  that they use
[2239.02 --> 2240.30]  to proxy the connection
[2240.30 --> 2241.08]  to set everybody up
[2241.08 --> 2241.84]  to get them established,
[2242.00 --> 2242.66]  but then you're talking
[2242.66 --> 2243.58]  directly to each other
[2243.58 --> 2243.98]  after that.
[2244.36 --> 2245.28]  They also work
[2245.28 --> 2246.50]  with your single sign-on provider
[2246.50 --> 2248.36]  which means they also
[2248.36 --> 2249.24]  support two-factor
[2249.24 --> 2250.18]  if you've got that going.
[2250.52 --> 2251.70]  You've got to go try Tailscale
[2251.70 --> 2252.46]  because once you have it
[2252.46 --> 2253.50]  set up in a couple of minutes,
[2253.74 --> 2255.80]  you've got an always-on VPN
[2255.80 --> 2257.48]  protected by WireGuard.
[2257.86 --> 2259.14]  It's so slick
[2259.14 --> 2260.16]  and I've got it running now
[2260.16 --> 2261.18]  on my family's machines
[2261.18 --> 2263.12]  as well as my Raspberry Pis,
[2263.32 --> 2264.86]  my servers, my VMs.
[2264.94 --> 2266.14]  It brings it all together
[2266.14 --> 2267.26]  and you can try it
[2267.26 --> 2268.44]  for yourself for free
[2268.44 --> 2269.92]  for up to 20 machines
[2269.92 --> 2271.64]  at tailscale.com
[2271.64 --> 2273.04]  slash self-hosted.
[2273.06 --> 2273.68]  That's where you've got to go
[2273.68 --> 2274.42]  to support the show
[2274.42 --> 2275.90]  and try it out for 20 machines
[2275.90 --> 2277.08]  for totally free
[2277.08 --> 2278.52]  at tailscale.com
[2278.52 --> 2279.98]  slash self-hosted.
[2282.38 --> 2283.40]  Scott writes in
[2283.40 --> 2284.20]  looking for chip
[2284.20 --> 2285.54]  shortage alternatives.
[2286.00 --> 2287.26]  With this continuing
[2287.26 --> 2289.06]  on through the foreseeable future
[2289.06 --> 2290.10]  and Raspberry Pis
[2290.10 --> 2291.00]  becoming the new
[2291.00 --> 2291.82]  unobtanium,
[2292.36 --> 2293.30]  I would like to hear
[2293.30 --> 2294.68]  some ideas from you both
[2294.68 --> 2295.78]  as to what to look for
[2295.78 --> 2296.88]  in alternatives.
[2297.24 --> 2298.16]  I'd also love to hear
[2298.16 --> 2298.90]  from other insiders
[2298.90 --> 2299.84]  what they're using
[2299.84 --> 2300.94]  through feedback
[2300.94 --> 2301.60]  of their own.
[2301.92 --> 2302.36]  Specifically,
[2302.56 --> 2303.70]  this is a problem for me
[2303.70 --> 2304.68]  since I like having
[2304.68 --> 2305.64]  dedicated systems
[2305.64 --> 2306.72]  for certain tasks.
[2307.56 --> 2308.26]  For example,
[2308.36 --> 2308.84]  a pie hole
[2308.84 --> 2309.98]  is a dedicated appliance
[2309.98 --> 2310.44]  for me
[2310.44 --> 2312.20]  and I want my DNS
[2312.20 --> 2313.00]  to be reliable.
[2313.54 --> 2314.20]  I just want stuff
[2314.20 --> 2314.90]  to work with
[2314.90 --> 2315.96]  minimal administration.
[2316.42 --> 2317.00]  I've got loads
[2317.00 --> 2317.56]  of other hobbies
[2317.56 --> 2318.12]  and I don't want
[2318.12 --> 2319.78]  to spend all my free time
[2319.78 --> 2321.38]  being my own IT admin
[2321.38 --> 2322.38]  as they're always
[2322.38 --> 2323.10]  overworked,
[2323.34 --> 2323.90]  underpaid,
[2324.06 --> 2325.12]  and usually grumpy
[2325.12 --> 2326.08]  after business hours.
[2326.78 --> 2327.88]  Can relate, Scott.
[2328.02 --> 2328.62]  Can relate.
[2329.72 --> 2331.10]  You may be right about that.
[2331.22 --> 2331.68]  Got to admit.
[2332.12 --> 2332.58]  You know, Scott,
[2332.58 --> 2333.12]  the first thing
[2333.12 --> 2333.82]  that came to mind
[2333.82 --> 2334.32]  for me,
[2334.86 --> 2335.56]  and this is something
[2335.56 --> 2336.70]  that I've already done once,
[2336.94 --> 2338.52]  is low-power,
[2339.06 --> 2339.40]  cheap,
[2339.52 --> 2340.30]  used laptops
[2340.30 --> 2340.88]  on eBay.
[2341.58 --> 2342.02]  Often,
[2342.30 --> 2343.62]  they have more horsepower
[2343.62 --> 2345.08]  than a Raspberry Pi.
[2345.42 --> 2346.08]  Some of them
[2346.08 --> 2346.82]  even have features
[2346.82 --> 2347.58]  like QuickSync,
[2347.64 --> 2348.40]  so they make it great
[2348.40 --> 2349.12]  for Plex.
[2349.64 --> 2350.74]  The only real challenge
[2350.74 --> 2351.46]  is that I've run into
[2351.46 --> 2352.04]  and why I haven't really
[2352.04 --> 2352.78]  talked about it a lot
[2352.78 --> 2353.84]  on air
[2353.84 --> 2354.56]  is because
[2354.56 --> 2356.54]  I'm almost always
[2356.54 --> 2357.74]  hitting some kind
[2357.74 --> 2358.84]  of IO limitation
[2358.84 --> 2360.80]  that just drives me crazy.
[2360.92 --> 2361.60]  Maybe it's USB
[2361.60 --> 2362.30]  or Ethernet
[2362.30 --> 2363.40]  or something like that,
[2363.76 --> 2364.50]  but depending on
[2364.50 --> 2365.34]  what your needs are,
[2365.72 --> 2366.80]  like if you could
[2366.80 --> 2367.62]  find a laptop
[2367.62 --> 2368.72]  like some of these
[2368.72 --> 2369.14]  ThinkPads
[2369.14 --> 2370.06]  that support two disks
[2370.06 --> 2371.44]  and maybe you're okay
[2371.44 --> 2372.20]  with just that amount
[2372.20 --> 2372.64]  of storage,
[2373.02 --> 2373.60]  you could actually
[2373.60 --> 2374.16]  make a laptop
[2374.16 --> 2374.98]  work pretty well
[2374.98 --> 2376.10]  in place of a Raspberry Pi.
[2376.38 --> 2377.70]  What do you think, Alex?
[2377.74 --> 2378.24]  You got any ideas?
[2378.84 --> 2379.34]  Well, something like
[2379.34 --> 2380.08]  an old ThinkPad
[2380.08 --> 2381.18]  you can have pretty cheap.
[2381.30 --> 2381.70]  Like, I've just
[2381.70 --> 2382.66]  had a quick look now.
[2382.66 --> 2384.80]  T450, which is
[2384.80 --> 2385.78]  5th gen Intel,
[2386.24 --> 2387.38]  100, 140,
[2387.58 --> 2389.22]  depending on the spec
[2389.22 --> 2390.34]  and how much RAM
[2390.34 --> 2391.72]  and disk and what have you
[2391.72 --> 2392.24]  that's in there.
[2392.70 --> 2393.66]  But we've also been
[2393.66 --> 2394.16]  talking about this
[2394.16 --> 2394.62]  on the Discord
[2394.62 --> 2395.76]  a fair bit recently
[2395.76 --> 2397.80]  with the, like,
[2397.90 --> 2399.34]  tiny mini micro stuff,
[2399.54 --> 2400.38]  that kind of stuff,
[2400.48 --> 2401.74]  like Serve the Home
[2401.74 --> 2402.38]  have been doing
[2402.38 --> 2402.94]  a whole series
[2402.94 --> 2403.54]  on this stuff.
[2404.00 --> 2404.68]  Now, they typically
[2404.68 --> 2405.94]  buy the higher end stuff,
[2406.02 --> 2406.68]  the newer stuff,
[2407.18 --> 2408.60]  or they get sent it anyway.
[2409.30 --> 2410.06]  We've been talking
[2410.06 --> 2411.14]  about kind of the lower
[2411.14 --> 2411.92]  end of that market.
[2411.92 --> 2412.66]  There are some old
[2412.66 --> 2413.90]  thin client boxes
[2413.90 --> 2414.54]  that have been
[2414.54 --> 2415.16]  knocking around
[2415.16 --> 2415.84]  for a long time.
[2416.08 --> 2416.76]  I think it's,
[2416.76 --> 2417.66]  is it Wyze?
[2417.80 --> 2419.44]  Spelt W-Y-S-E.
[2420.40 --> 2421.18]  These guys,
[2421.36 --> 2423.44]  they do thin clients
[2423.44 --> 2424.12]  for enterprise.
[2424.34 --> 2425.50]  So they've got boxes
[2425.50 --> 2426.04]  knocking around
[2426.04 --> 2427.34]  by the thousand
[2427.34 --> 2428.64]  and you can get them
[2428.64 --> 2429.62]  super cheap on eBay
[2429.62 --> 2430.68]  and often they've got
[2430.68 --> 2432.12]  Ethernet built in
[2432.12 --> 2432.68]  and USB.
[2433.76 --> 2434.64]  Depending on the model
[2434.64 --> 2435.20]  you go for,
[2435.32 --> 2435.98]  you might be lucky
[2435.98 --> 2436.60]  to get one with
[2436.60 --> 2437.88]  some SATA space in there.
[2438.00 --> 2438.18]  You know,
[2438.20 --> 2438.72]  maybe you could have
[2438.72 --> 2440.94]  a SATA SSD in there
[2440.94 --> 2441.78]  or an M.2
[2441.78 --> 2442.80]  if you get really lucky.
[2443.80 --> 2444.38]  So that's the route
[2444.38 --> 2444.94]  I'd probably go.
[2445.26 --> 2445.40]  Yeah,
[2445.42 --> 2445.96]  we looked at a couple
[2445.96 --> 2446.62]  of those recently
[2446.62 --> 2448.28]  and those could be
[2448.28 --> 2449.14]  really awesome too
[2449.14 --> 2449.78]  for low power.
[2450.14 --> 2451.20]  I think like the biggest
[2451.20 --> 2452.16]  bottleneck there
[2452.16 --> 2453.00]  was memory
[2453.00 --> 2453.88]  on those units.
[2454.12 --> 2454.78]  Like they're usually pretty,
[2454.90 --> 2455.66]  but depending on again
[2455.66 --> 2456.22]  what you're doing,
[2456.72 --> 2457.36]  that might not be,
[2457.46 --> 2458.28]  that might not be an issue.
[2458.36 --> 2458.90]  It just kind of depends
[2458.90 --> 2459.46]  on your workload.
[2459.72 --> 2460.52]  These Wyze boxes
[2460.52 --> 2461.62]  are about the size
[2461.62 --> 2463.40]  of two or three CD cases,
[2463.62 --> 2463.88]  maybe.
[2464.28 --> 2465.02]  So they're very,
[2465.16 --> 2465.66]  very small
[2465.66 --> 2467.12]  and they're very,
[2467.30 --> 2468.38]  very cheap.
[2468.78 --> 2469.34]  They can be had
[2469.34 --> 2470.50]  for as low as $15,
[2470.64 --> 2471.08]  $20,
[2471.50 --> 2472.22]  something like that.
[2472.54 --> 2472.86]  Some of them
[2472.86 --> 2473.70]  don't include memory
[2473.70 --> 2474.90]  at that kind of price,
[2475.00 --> 2475.80]  but some of them do.
[2476.40 --> 2476.96]  And they're x86.
[2477.26 --> 2478.00]  They're Atoms, right?
[2478.08 --> 2478.26]  I mean,
[2478.34 --> 2478.68]  they're X,
[2478.74 --> 2479.62]  you could just run anything.
[2479.68 --> 2480.70]  Some are Atom,
[2481.02 --> 2482.44]  some are AMD.
[2483.26 --> 2483.58]  All right.
[2483.64 --> 2483.76]  Well,
[2483.82 --> 2484.78]  Oliver writes in,
[2484.94 --> 2485.26]  he says,
[2485.32 --> 2485.72]  hi guys,
[2485.80 --> 2486.44]  thanks for the show.
[2486.52 --> 2486.96]  I've been listening
[2486.96 --> 2487.72]  from the beginning
[2487.72 --> 2488.66]  and I've learned a lot.
[2489.24 --> 2490.00]  I've been struggling
[2490.00 --> 2490.96]  to find a great
[2490.96 --> 2491.94]  self-hosted podcast
[2491.94 --> 2493.54]  solution for a while now.
[2494.50 --> 2494.86]  Audiobookshelf
[2494.86 --> 2496.02]  has recently blown up
[2496.02 --> 2496.58]  and it's been
[2496.58 --> 2498.10]  really actively developed
[2498.10 --> 2499.30]  and the podcast feature
[2499.30 --> 2501.16]  is probably the most excited
[2501.16 --> 2502.04]  I've been
[2502.04 --> 2503.36]  for a self-host application
[2503.36 --> 2504.28]  for a long time,
[2504.72 --> 2505.22]  but there's still
[2505.22 --> 2506.08]  some work to be done.
[2506.44 --> 2507.10]  It's amazing
[2507.10 --> 2507.74]  what's been accomplished
[2507.74 --> 2508.32]  already though.
[2508.40 --> 2509.48]  It's now my primary
[2509.48 --> 2511.14]  podcast listening app.
[2511.34 --> 2512.24]  I wonder, Alex,
[2512.26 --> 2512.88]  have you played it all
[2512.88 --> 2513.60]  with podcast
[2513.60 --> 2514.60]  and Audiobookshelf?
[2514.86 --> 2516.12]  I've still got it spun up
[2516.12 --> 2517.00]  from the episode
[2517.00 --> 2517.78]  we talked about it
[2517.78 --> 2518.60]  a couple of weeks ago.
[2518.78 --> 2519.54]  Did you try a podcast
[2519.54 --> 2520.00]  in there?
[2520.26 --> 2522.58]  I haven't done any podcasts,
[2522.68 --> 2523.52]  but we could do a lot.
[2523.52 --> 2523.92]  Live.
[2524.76 --> 2526.32]  We could do a live test
[2526.32 --> 2527.22]  right now if you like.
[2527.50 --> 2527.86]  Oh!
[2529.06 --> 2529.80]  All right.
[2529.96 --> 2530.96]  Oh, that's exciting.
[2531.40 --> 2532.84]  I know this is a common question
[2532.84 --> 2534.08]  that comes into the show
[2534.08 --> 2534.74]  is, hey,
[2534.80 --> 2536.12]  how can I self-host
[2536.12 --> 2536.76]  my own podcast?
[2537.46 --> 2538.40]  And I never really feel
[2538.40 --> 2539.82]  like we have a super great answer
[2539.82 --> 2541.98]  because I think a great aspect
[2541.98 --> 2542.80]  of podcasts,
[2543.18 --> 2543.94]  in my opinion,
[2544.18 --> 2544.62]  is that,
[2545.20 --> 2545.96]  now I know not everybody
[2545.96 --> 2546.52]  does it this way,
[2546.64 --> 2547.18]  but for me,
[2547.54 --> 2548.46]  is that the MP3 file
[2548.46 --> 2549.46]  is actually locally
[2549.46 --> 2551.06]  on the storage device
[2551.06 --> 2551.68]  of my phone.
[2551.68 --> 2552.70]  And so,
[2552.86 --> 2553.96]  I can listen to a podcast
[2553.96 --> 2555.30]  without using data
[2555.30 --> 2557.10]  or when I don't have signal
[2557.10 --> 2558.42]  or when I just don't want
[2558.42 --> 2559.46]  to use much battery life
[2559.46 --> 2559.78]  either.
[2560.08 --> 2560.56]  And so,
[2561.00 --> 2562.76]  I really like having podcasts
[2562.76 --> 2563.40]  locally
[2563.40 --> 2565.24]  on my phone.
[2565.36 --> 2565.46]  So,
[2565.52 --> 2566.50]  that's why I've ended up
[2566.50 --> 2567.86]  trying to use podcast apps
[2567.86 --> 2568.36]  that sync,
[2568.98 --> 2569.42]  but I,
[2569.54 --> 2569.90]  you know,
[2569.90 --> 2571.36]  I don't love any of it.
[2571.98 --> 2572.72]  I found it.
[2572.80 --> 2572.96]  So,
[2573.02 --> 2573.56]  I have to create
[2573.56 --> 2574.20]  a new library.
[2574.40 --> 2574.54]  So,
[2574.60 --> 2575.16]  I've just added
[2575.16 --> 2576.08]  a new folder
[2576.08 --> 2578.26]  to my audio bookshelf
[2578.26 --> 2578.80]  container.
[2579.12 --> 2579.52]  So,
[2579.58 --> 2579.92]  I'm going to have
[2579.92 --> 2581.48]  a dedicated podcast folder.
[2581.78 --> 2582.02]  Okay,
[2582.08 --> 2583.58]  that container's now spun up.
[2583.90 --> 2584.28]  So,
[2584.32 --> 2585.32]  I'm going to just load up
[2585.32 --> 2586.22]  audio bookshelf,
[2586.64 --> 2588.04]  add a new library,
[2589.04 --> 2590.16]  select podcasts
[2590.16 --> 2591.20]  from the list.
[2592.28 --> 2593.02]  I've got to give it
[2593.02 --> 2593.76]  the correct icon.
[2593.88 --> 2594.54]  That's very important.
[2595.04 --> 2595.16]  Now,
[2595.22 --> 2595.86]  interestingly enough,
[2595.98 --> 2596.92]  the metadata provider
[2596.92 --> 2597.70]  is iTunes.
[2598.14 --> 2598.34]  So,
[2598.54 --> 2599.34]  even though it's
[2599.34 --> 2600.42]  a self-hosted
[2600.42 --> 2601.50]  podcast
[2601.50 --> 2603.44]  server,
[2603.66 --> 2604.44]  for want of a better word,
[2604.90 --> 2605.80]  still using
[2605.80 --> 2607.28]  internet-based
[2607.28 --> 2608.86]  metadata.
[2609.42 --> 2610.28]  That's a real shame.
[2610.48 --> 2610.64]  You know,
[2610.68 --> 2611.24]  they could be using
[2611.24 --> 2612.32]  the podcast index
[2612.32 --> 2613.16]  and they could also
[2613.16 --> 2613.98]  use PodPing
[2613.98 --> 2614.76]  and they wouldn't even
[2614.76 --> 2615.80]  need to use the index.
[2616.20 --> 2617.02]  That's a bit of a shame.
[2617.40 --> 2617.54]  Oh,
[2617.58 --> 2617.88]  I see.
[2617.98 --> 2618.06]  So,
[2618.14 --> 2618.82]  I can have a,
[2618.88 --> 2619.00]  oh,
[2619.02 --> 2620.28]  I can put an RSS feed in there.
[2620.32 --> 2620.54]  All right.
[2620.60 --> 2620.72]  So,
[2620.72 --> 2622.36]  where's the self-hosted RSS feed?
[2622.48 --> 2623.18]  Self-hosted.show
[2623.18 --> 2624.40]  slash RSS.
[2624.62 --> 2625.34]  Slash RSS.
[2625.86 --> 2626.08]  Yep.
[2626.08 --> 2626.96]  It's real simple.
[2627.28 --> 2627.50]  All right.
[2627.50 --> 2628.22]  Let's put that in there.
[2628.28 --> 2628.84]  Let's see what happens
[2628.84 --> 2629.66]  when I click submit.
[2630.32 --> 2630.66]  Oh,
[2631.08 --> 2631.82]  that's pretty cool.
[2632.02 --> 2633.06]  It's found the album art.
[2633.34 --> 2634.88]  It's got the genres correct.
[2634.98 --> 2635.86]  It's got the description.
[2636.46 --> 2637.64]  Auto-download episodes.
[2637.96 --> 2638.36]  Check.
[2638.60 --> 2639.30]  Add podcast.
[2639.88 --> 2640.34]  All right.
[2640.60 --> 2641.04]  Hmm.
[2641.24 --> 2642.28]  Let's see what happens.
[2643.24 --> 2643.90]  All right.
[2644.26 --> 2644.66]  All right.
[2644.66 --> 2645.80]  That doesn't seem too bad.
[2645.84 --> 2646.62]  I gotta be honest.
[2646.76 --> 2647.02]  Okay.
[2647.04 --> 2647.92]  This is pretty great.
[2648.18 --> 2648.44]  Yeah?
[2648.78 --> 2649.90]  This is the way.
[2649.90 --> 2650.38]  You know,
[2650.56 --> 2651.28]  you were just saying
[2651.28 --> 2652.52]  you don't have a great way.
[2652.64 --> 2653.06]  This is it,
[2653.10 --> 2653.52]  I think,
[2653.58 --> 2653.80]  anyway.
[2654.04 --> 2654.40]  Okay.
[2654.54 --> 2655.02]  All right.
[2655.18 --> 2655.52]  All right.
[2655.52 --> 2656.50]  Maybe we got to give this
[2656.50 --> 2657.60]  a more serious go then
[2657.60 --> 2659.04]  because this would be nice
[2659.04 --> 2660.22]  to just have a solution
[2660.22 --> 2660.66]  for people
[2660.66 --> 2661.26]  because they write in
[2661.26 --> 2661.92]  all the time.
[2662.56 --> 2662.94]  Okay.
[2662.96 --> 2663.58]  Thanks, Oliver.
[2663.88 --> 2665.26]  I'm going to try that out.
[2665.68 --> 2666.68]  I think that'll be pretty great.
[2667.22 --> 2668.26]  We got some boosts
[2668.26 --> 2669.44]  into the show.
[2669.52 --> 2670.36]  First one came from
[2670.36 --> 2671.64]  Xthumb SX
[2671.64 --> 2672.54]  who sent us a boost
[2672.54 --> 2673.68]  using a new podcast app,
[2674.22 --> 2675.22]  5,000 sats.
[2675.58 --> 2676.82]  He mentions that there are
[2676.82 --> 2678.30]  silicon wedding bands
[2678.30 --> 2679.90]  that solve the issue of like,
[2679.98 --> 2681.34]  I think we were talking about
[2681.34 --> 2682.10]  getting them in the cases
[2682.10 --> 2682.94]  or getting them,
[2683.02 --> 2683.48]  you know,
[2683.78 --> 2684.72]  problems with working
[2684.72 --> 2685.54]  with electricity.
[2686.02 --> 2687.32]  He says this is also great
[2687.32 --> 2688.66]  when installing smart devices.
[2688.80 --> 2690.20]  They don't dig into your finger
[2690.20 --> 2691.14]  when gripping tools
[2691.14 --> 2692.04]  or sports equipment.
[2692.76 --> 2693.74]  That's pretty awesome.
[2694.16 --> 2694.68]  I didn't realize
[2694.68 --> 2695.26]  they made
[2695.26 --> 2697.28]  silicon wedding rings.
[2698.50 --> 2699.58]  I'm such an idiot.
[2699.84 --> 2700.78]  I never even checked,
[2701.12 --> 2701.40]  you know?
[2701.64 --> 2702.30]  It's not something
[2702.30 --> 2703.04]  that occurred to me.
[2703.10 --> 2704.20]  I just took mine off
[2704.20 --> 2705.52]  and didn't think about it.
[2706.04 --> 2706.28]  Yeah.
[2707.02 --> 2708.46]  Cospiland sent us a boost
[2708.46 --> 2711.18]  for 3,690 sats.
[2711.30 --> 2713.00]  He always sends us in like numbers
[2713.00 --> 2714.00]  that I think mean something
[2714.00 --> 2714.84]  and he says,
[2715.04 --> 2715.92]  yes,
[2716.06 --> 2718.00]  the numbers are Tesla numbers
[2718.00 --> 2720.62]  and he also wants to know
[2720.62 --> 2721.94]  if we have any SUS servers.
[2722.06 --> 2723.26]  Do you have any SUS servers?
[2723.66 --> 2724.30]  I do not.
[2724.86 --> 2725.22]  Hmm.
[2725.64 --> 2726.00]  All right.
[2726.02 --> 2726.74]  I didn't think so.
[2727.04 --> 2728.04]  Not surprising, really.
[2728.22 --> 2730.78]  I have one in production
[2730.78 --> 2733.38]  and I have one on a Raspberry Pi CM4.
[2734.14 --> 2734.58]  So,
[2735.30 --> 2735.82]  not a lot,
[2735.94 --> 2736.48]  but I have some.
[2737.18 --> 2738.14]  For 500 sats,
[2738.14 --> 2739.70]  Gin from Matique writes in,
[2739.90 --> 2740.38]  Hi Chris,
[2740.46 --> 2741.28]  I just stumbled upon
[2741.28 --> 2741.92]  a French blog
[2741.92 --> 2742.72]  discussing about
[2742.72 --> 2744.14]  podcasting 2.0.
[2744.50 --> 2745.96]  The article is translated
[2745.96 --> 2746.56]  to English
[2746.56 --> 2747.58]  and here's what they did.
[2748.32 --> 2749.20]  As podcast lovers
[2749.20 --> 2750.38]  for over two decades,
[2750.60 --> 2751.32]  we have founded
[2751.32 --> 2753.60]  Ad Aures?
[2754.06 --> 2755.06]  A-U-R-E-S?
[2755.38 --> 2755.98]  A-R-U-S?
[2756.16 --> 2756.68]  A-R-U-S?
[2756.74 --> 2756.88]  Yeah.
[2757.58 --> 2759.64]  My French pronunciation is
[2759.64 --> 2761.54]  Poo-Poo,
[2761.88 --> 2762.46]  shall we say.
[2762.74 --> 2762.94]  Anyway,
[2763.34 --> 2764.34]  they're aiming to build
[2764.34 --> 2765.34]  a fair and sustainable
[2765.34 --> 2766.64]  ecosystem for everyone
[2766.64 --> 2768.20]  in the podcasting industry.
[2768.90 --> 2769.66]  They've developed
[2769.66 --> 2770.46]  Castopod,
[2770.82 --> 2772.62]  a free and open source solution
[2772.62 --> 2774.56]  for hosting your podcasts
[2774.56 --> 2775.86]  in order to facilitate
[2775.86 --> 2777.88]  access to podcasting 2.0
[2777.88 --> 2778.46]  for everybody.
[2778.46 --> 2778.98]  Yeah,
[2779.34 --> 2780.76]  Castopod's actually pretty neat.
[2780.88 --> 2782.80]  There's another one out there too
[2782.80 --> 2784.64]  that's being created
[2784.64 --> 2785.72]  and they're supporting
[2785.72 --> 2788.04]  all of the podcasting 2.0 spec
[2788.04 --> 2788.80]  out of the gate,
[2788.90 --> 2789.34]  which means
[2789.34 --> 2790.48]  things like the
[2790.48 --> 2792.08]  alternative enclosure tag,
[2792.28 --> 2793.46]  transcripts,
[2793.58 --> 2794.14]  clips,
[2794.14 --> 2796.20]  and things like that.
[2796.32 --> 2797.66]  And the idea is
[2797.66 --> 2798.48]  is that you could just
[2798.48 --> 2799.10]  kind of use their
[2799.10 --> 2800.16]  out-of-the-box solution.
[2800.42 --> 2800.62]  I mean,
[2800.64 --> 2801.18]  if you're looking
[2801.18 --> 2801.98]  to start a podcast
[2801.98 --> 2802.62]  right now
[2802.62 --> 2805.98]  and you want something
[2805.98 --> 2806.74]  that's kind of like
[2806.74 --> 2807.54]  an all-in-one
[2807.54 --> 2808.60]  backend package,
[2808.82 --> 2810.28]  like a hosted fireside,
[2810.82 --> 2811.70]  that's what
[2811.70 --> 2812.74]  Castopod is.
[2813.28 --> 2814.44]  And I've looked at it
[2814.44 --> 2815.42]  because it is
[2815.42 --> 2816.46]  enticing.
[2816.90 --> 2818.34]  It'll support clips,
[2818.38 --> 2819.38]  it'll generate video clips,
[2819.38 --> 2820.62]  and it supports the podcasting
[2820.62 --> 2821.94]  2.0 namespace stuff for that.
[2821.94 --> 2823.34]  It does the value-for-value stuff
[2823.34 --> 2824.26]  so you can do boosts
[2824.26 --> 2825.48]  and it supports
[2825.48 --> 2826.58]  the transcript stuff.
[2826.82 --> 2828.34]  There's a lot in that spec
[2828.34 --> 2830.62]  and they're one of the
[2830.62 --> 2831.40]  premier places
[2831.40 --> 2832.16]  that are supporting it.
[2832.26 --> 2832.94]  So that's pretty cool.
[2833.04 --> 2834.02]  I haven't tried it myself
[2834.02 --> 2834.88]  because we're already,
[2835.04 --> 2835.88]  you know,
[2836.04 --> 2836.54]  we already have
[2836.54 --> 2837.48]  a whole system built out.
[2837.56 --> 2838.64]  But if I were starting today
[2838.64 --> 2840.10]  and I didn't have anything,
[2840.54 --> 2841.56]  I'd be pretty tempted
[2841.56 --> 2842.44]  to try Castopod,
[2842.70 --> 2843.36]  I have to say.
[2844.12 --> 2845.28]  Toxic Safety 89
[2845.28 --> 2846.44]  wrote in two days ago
[2846.44 --> 2849.02]  with 3,333 SATs.
[2849.02 --> 2849.54]  I feel like that's
[2849.54 --> 2850.20]  a lucky number.
[2850.56 --> 2851.20]  All threes?
[2851.20 --> 2851.78]  That's got to be
[2851.78 --> 2852.54]  a lucky number thing.
[2853.16 --> 2853.98]  I swear to God,
[2854.10 --> 2855.14]  my Alexa and Siri
[2855.14 --> 2856.56]  are getting worse and worse
[2856.56 --> 2857.94]  at understanding me.
[2858.28 --> 2859.30]  I love the HomePods
[2859.30 --> 2859.96]  like you, Chris,
[2860.02 --> 2861.08]  but it's a 50-50
[2861.08 --> 2862.08]  hit rate these days.
[2862.18 --> 2862.98]  Do you guys have
[2862.98 --> 2863.58]  these problems?
[2863.78 --> 2864.50]  Is there anything
[2864.50 --> 2865.56]  better out there?
[2866.56 --> 2867.70]  Well, I can't tell you
[2867.70 --> 2868.60]  the number of times
[2868.60 --> 2869.70]  I have to put on
[2869.70 --> 2871.56]  a very bad American accent
[2871.56 --> 2872.38]  in order to make
[2872.38 --> 2873.02]  my Google Home
[2873.02 --> 2873.64]  understand me.
[2873.88 --> 2874.30]  Oh, really?
[2874.46 --> 2875.50]  Have you tried
[2875.50 --> 2876.40]  changing the voice
[2876.40 --> 2877.44]  to the British voice?
[2877.74 --> 2878.32]  I have.
[2878.52 --> 2879.64]  In fact, when Brent was here,
[2879.64 --> 2880.52]  we had a good giggle
[2880.52 --> 2881.14]  because we were doing
[2881.14 --> 2882.30]  some YouTube searches
[2882.30 --> 2883.76]  and I searched for something
[2883.76 --> 2885.28]  like Tool Danny Carey
[2885.28 --> 2886.02]  drumming videos
[2886.02 --> 2886.44]  or something
[2886.44 --> 2886.96]  and it came up
[2886.96 --> 2887.38]  with something
[2887.38 --> 2889.26]  completely random
[2889.26 --> 2890.38]  and I was like,
[2890.72 --> 2891.60]  Tool Drumming
[2891.60 --> 2892.84]  Danny Carey videos
[2892.84 --> 2894.22]  and it just worked
[2894.22 --> 2894.72]  first time.
[2895.42 --> 2896.40]  That's your American?
[2896.64 --> 2897.40]  That's so great.
[2897.68 --> 2898.36]  Yeah, it is.
[2898.88 --> 2899.68]  Say what you will,
[2899.76 --> 2900.88]  but that's my American accent.
[2901.14 --> 2901.70]  What of it, bro?
[2901.70 --> 2902.96]  I have to be honest.
[2903.14 --> 2905.18]  I feel like the Echo,
[2905.34 --> 2906.54]  the Amazon devices,
[2906.86 --> 2908.10]  their hit rate for me
[2908.10 --> 2909.20]  remains the same,
[2909.46 --> 2910.84]  but their annoyance rate
[2910.84 --> 2912.72]  has skyrocketed.
[2912.94 --> 2914.24]  So I don't have any Echos
[2914.24 --> 2916.10]  in the RV where I'm at now
[2916.10 --> 2916.98]  and I don't have any
[2916.98 --> 2917.64]  anywhere else
[2917.64 --> 2919.10]  except for in one spot
[2919.10 --> 2922.88]  and that is in the studio proper,
[2923.00 --> 2923.88]  like the main studio,
[2923.96 --> 2924.80]  the JB1 studio
[2924.80 --> 2926.40]  where I'm live streaming anyways.
[2926.48 --> 2927.12]  I don't care if there's
[2927.12 --> 2927.70]  an Echo in there.
[2927.70 --> 2930.42]  And that thing is inserting ads
[2930.42 --> 2931.38]  and by the ways
[2931.38 --> 2932.46]  and did you knows
[2932.46 --> 2933.42]  and would you like
[2933.42 --> 2935.04]  all the time now.
[2935.14 --> 2936.24]  It's so frustrating
[2936.24 --> 2937.32]  that I've stopped using it.
[2937.50 --> 2938.12]  By the way,
[2938.64 --> 2939.30]  did you know
[2939.30 --> 2940.50]  you can ask for groceries
[2940.50 --> 2941.96]  in nine different languages?
[2942.62 --> 2942.92]  Yeah.
[2943.18 --> 2943.82]  Okay, great.
[2944.04 --> 2944.26]  Cool.
[2944.70 --> 2945.52]  That's not what I asked for.
[2945.64 --> 2946.52]  And then on the flip side
[2946.52 --> 2947.22]  with the HomePods,
[2947.30 --> 2947.90]  which I too,
[2948.16 --> 2948.40]  you know,
[2948.44 --> 2950.18]  I like them like you, Toxic,
[2950.34 --> 2951.24]  but the thing is,
[2951.96 --> 2952.78]  I swear to God
[2952.78 --> 2953.52]  they're getting stupider.
[2953.62 --> 2954.30]  I agree with you.
[2954.40 --> 2955.96]  Like, I don't know what it is,
[2955.96 --> 2958.32]  but the hit rate is so bad these days
[2958.32 --> 2959.70]  that I stop,
[2960.18 --> 2962.16]  I enunciate really clearly,
[2962.30 --> 2963.64]  I speak directly at it,
[2963.74 --> 2964.56]  and it used to be one of,
[2964.72 --> 2965.74]  I swear,
[2965.86 --> 2966.92]  when I got the HomePods
[2966.92 --> 2968.30]  and set them up,
[2968.48 --> 2970.16]  I could just bark into the air
[2970.16 --> 2972.14]  no matter what noise was going on
[2972.14 --> 2973.28]  and they would hear me.
[2973.34 --> 2974.82]  And it was such a neat parlor trick,
[2974.88 --> 2975.84]  I would show it to people.
[2976.18 --> 2977.96]  Like, we could have it super loud in here
[2977.96 --> 2979.60]  and I would say something quietly
[2979.60 --> 2980.64]  to the HomePod
[2980.64 --> 2982.52]  and it would still hear me.
[2982.76 --> 2984.36]  And everybody was so impressed.
[2984.36 --> 2986.08]  And now I would never dare doing that.
[2986.14 --> 2987.82]  I swear it's gotten worse.
[2988.42 --> 2989.18]  So, um,
[2989.28 --> 2991.06]  I'm in the same boat as you, Toxic.
[2991.16 --> 2991.96]  If anybody out there
[2991.96 --> 2993.20]  is using another system
[2993.20 --> 2994.80]  besides one of these commercial systems
[2994.80 --> 2997.48]  that are doing a cloud dictation
[2997.48 --> 2997.94]  and all of that,
[2998.06 --> 2998.86]  please let me know
[2998.86 --> 2999.86]  how it's working for you
[2999.86 --> 3001.34]  and if the hit rates are any better.
[3002.10 --> 3003.78]  Real-time feedback in the Discord.
[3004.38 --> 3005.76]  One of our Australian buddies
[3005.76 --> 3008.28]  tells me that Almond and Ada,
[3008.84 --> 3009.88]  powered by Home Assistant,
[3010.46 --> 3011.94]  are some good alternatives.
[3012.12 --> 3013.12]  So maybe we should give those a go.
[3013.12 --> 3014.82]  But how accurate?
[3015.00 --> 3016.00]  Like, I hear that.
[3016.08 --> 3016.50]  I don't know.
[3016.52 --> 3017.38]  But how are the hit rates
[3017.38 --> 3018.54]  compared to the commercial ones?
[3018.72 --> 3020.02]  Is it a downgrade?
[3020.08 --> 3021.66]  Because when you're the dad
[3021.66 --> 3022.90]  and you've deployed all this stuff
[3022.90 --> 3024.14]  and then your family goes to use it
[3024.14 --> 3025.00]  and it fails them,
[3025.44 --> 3025.82]  you always,
[3026.00 --> 3027.64]  I take it personally every time.
[3027.72 --> 3029.76]  I'm embarrassed for the HomePods
[3029.76 --> 3030.88]  when they fail to recognize
[3030.88 --> 3031.94]  what the wife is asking for.
[3032.00 --> 3032.48]  It's embarrassing.
[3033.18 --> 3034.22]  Send us a boost and let us know.
[3034.28 --> 3035.20]  If you'd like to send us a boost,
[3035.58 --> 3036.62]  get a new podcast app,
[3036.64 --> 3038.06]  a newpodcastapps.com.
[3038.12 --> 3038.68]  Good news,
[3039.26 --> 3040.06]  sats are on sale,
[3040.06 --> 3041.00]  especially today.
[3041.12 --> 3043.62]  They're on sale as we record.
[3044.10 --> 3044.32]  And you know,
[3044.34 --> 3044.94]  the great thing is
[3044.94 --> 3046.12]  you can buy them cheaper
[3046.12 --> 3047.86]  and they're still the same great sats.
[3048.24 --> 3049.84]  What is Bitcoin these days?
[3049.98 --> 3050.46]  What's it doing?
[3050.72 --> 3050.94]  I mean,
[3050.98 --> 3051.90]  not that I'm watching,
[3052.04 --> 3053.72]  but $28,914.
[3054.14 --> 3055.04]  Not that I'm watching.
[3055.32 --> 3055.48]  Ooh.
[3056.98 --> 3057.76]  I know.
[3058.14 --> 3059.06]  But like I say,
[3059.20 --> 3061.48]  you really get more sats now
[3061.48 --> 3062.08]  for your money.
[3062.30 --> 3062.86]  I don't care.
[3063.10 --> 3063.46]  It's still,
[3063.58 --> 3064.64]  you can still send us
[3064.64 --> 3065.84]  the same 3,000 sats.
[3066.34 --> 3067.06]  It's just,
[3067.32 --> 3068.08]  you got them for cheaper.
[3068.08 --> 3068.52]  Uh,
[3068.52 --> 3069.46]  and you can load them up
[3069.46 --> 3070.34]  on a new podcast app.
[3070.38 --> 3071.22]  In a few years time,
[3071.28 --> 3071.82]  we'll be laughing,
[3071.96 --> 3072.06]  huh?
[3072.24 --> 3072.44]  Yeah,
[3072.46 --> 3072.74]  really.
[3073.56 --> 3074.34]  Newpodcastapps.com.
[3074.42 --> 3075.04]  Go grab one.
[3075.26 --> 3075.56]  Also,
[3075.64 --> 3076.80]  if you want a web one,
[3077.14 --> 3078.04]  if you want a web player
[3078.04 --> 3079.44]  that syncs to a mobile device,
[3079.90 --> 3081.42]  I think I was Podverse.
[3081.52 --> 3082.58]  I was just trying this out.
[3082.70 --> 3083.72]  This is an interesting one.
[3083.80 --> 3084.70]  So their whole thing
[3084.70 --> 3085.96]  with Podverse
[3085.96 --> 3086.54]  is
[3086.54 --> 3089.18]  a full featured web client
[3089.18 --> 3089.96]  that syncs
[3089.96 --> 3091.56]  to a mobile device client.
[3091.82 --> 3092.22]  So
[3092.22 --> 3093.02]  that,
[3093.12 --> 3093.98]  and it also supports,
[3094.10 --> 3095.12]  it doesn't do boosts,
[3095.12 --> 3095.90]  but it supports
[3095.90 --> 3096.90]  all the other podcasting
[3096.90 --> 3097.58]  2.0 features,
[3097.58 --> 3098.78]  which is pretty great.
[3099.36 --> 3100.02]  Been playing around
[3100.02 --> 3100.90]  with Audiobookshelf
[3100.90 --> 3101.78]  whilst you've been talking
[3101.78 --> 3102.54]  a little bit there
[3102.54 --> 3103.08]  and,
[3103.16 --> 3103.42]  uh,
[3103.70 --> 3104.22]  it's,
[3104.42 --> 3105.12]  it's the way to go.
[3105.20 --> 3106.18]  You can specify
[3106.18 --> 3107.38]  a specific date
[3107.38 --> 3108.66]  like in the self-hosted
[3108.66 --> 3109.36]  back catalogue.
[3109.52 --> 3110.60]  I wanted to download
[3110.60 --> 3111.46]  everything from
[3111.46 --> 3112.62]  May last year
[3112.62 --> 3113.80]  and just in the time
[3113.80 --> 3114.72]  we've been talking there,
[3114.78 --> 3115.16]  which is what,
[3115.22 --> 3116.00]  five or ten minutes,
[3116.76 --> 3117.70]  it's gone and downloaded
[3117.70 --> 3118.42]  all those episodes
[3118.42 --> 3119.16]  in that time.
[3119.42 --> 3120.46]  It doesn't do them all.
[3120.60 --> 3121.38]  It only does the ones
[3121.38 --> 3122.20]  I asked for,
[3122.20 --> 3122.76]  which is,
[3123.34 --> 3123.54]  oh,
[3123.80 --> 3124.94]  chef's kiss.
[3124.94 --> 3125.96]  That's nice.
[3126.04 --> 3126.32]  All right.
[3127.00 --> 3127.40]  Boy,
[3127.54 --> 3128.56]  another one of these episodes
[3128.56 --> 3129.50]  where I've got way too much
[3129.50 --> 3130.28]  stuff to do afterwards.
[3130.72 --> 3130.80]  Now,
[3130.84 --> 3131.22]  don't forget,
[3131.32 --> 3131.88]  we're still,
[3131.94 --> 3132.26]  uh,
[3132.26 --> 3132.70]  working with
[3132.70 --> 3133.84]  cloudfree.shop
[3133.84 --> 3134.60]  over there.
[3134.70 --> 3135.34]  The coupon code
[3135.34 --> 3135.98]  self-hosted
[3135.98 --> 3136.52]  still gets you
[3136.52 --> 3136.96]  a dollar off
[3136.96 --> 3137.58]  per plug
[3137.58 --> 3138.16]  and also
[3138.16 --> 3139.40]  mylocalbytes.com
[3139.40 --> 3140.02]  if you're in,
[3140.08 --> 3140.32]  uh,
[3140.38 --> 3141.14]  if you're in Europe
[3141.14 --> 3141.76]  or the UK.
[3142.32 --> 3143.26]  Same deal over there,
[3143.32 --> 3143.86]  one pound off
[3143.86 --> 3144.70]  one of those plugs too.
[3144.98 --> 3145.58]  Coupon code
[3145.58 --> 3146.48]  self-hosted.
[3146.88 --> 3147.20]  Yay!
[3147.92 --> 3148.90]  Go help our friends out.
[3149.38 --> 3150.06]  They're selling you stuff
[3150.06 --> 3150.74]  that's ready to work.
[3150.96 --> 3151.38]  It's been a while
[3151.38 --> 3152.18]  since we mentioned them,
[3152.24 --> 3153.26]  but they're still going strong
[3153.26 --> 3153.54]  and,
[3153.62 --> 3153.92]  uh,
[3154.42 --> 3155.58]  particularly mylocalbytes,
[3155.66 --> 3157.10]  all of the affiliate revenues
[3157.10 --> 3157.62]  we get off that,
[3157.66 --> 3158.06]  it's very,
[3158.18 --> 3159.48]  very small amount,
[3159.82 --> 3160.50]  a few cents,
[3160.66 --> 3160.90]  honestly,
[3161.00 --> 3161.52]  per plug.
[3161.94 --> 3162.72]  We're going to donate
[3162.72 --> 3163.64]  all of that to,
[3163.70 --> 3164.02]  uh,
[3164.02 --> 3165.30]  some open source projects
[3165.30 --> 3166.68]  upstream coming up soon.
[3166.74 --> 3167.32]  We'll do an announcement
[3167.32 --> 3168.22]  about that soon,
[3168.22 --> 3169.38]  but if you want to support
[3169.38 --> 3170.90]  open source as well as the show,
[3171.16 --> 3172.26]  head on over to
[3172.26 --> 3174.22]  mylocalbytes.com.
[3174.22 --> 3174.50]  Yep,
[3174.64 --> 3175.58]  and cloudfree.shop.
[3175.76 --> 3175.86]  Oh,
[3175.88 --> 3177.20]  I think cloudfree might be listening.
[3177.34 --> 3178.18]  He's just written in the Discord.
[3178.30 --> 3179.00]  How fun is that?
[3179.32 --> 3179.68]  Hey!
[3180.40 --> 3181.92]  He's just launched an EU shop as well,
[3181.94 --> 3182.44]  he tells us,
[3182.48 --> 3183.18]  which is exciting.
[3183.82 --> 3184.08]  Oh,
[3184.12 --> 3184.34]  really?
[3185.42 --> 3185.74]  Well,
[3185.78 --> 3186.26]  there you go.
[3187.02 --> 3187.90]  What's the name of it?
[3188.10 --> 3189.78]  EU.cloudfree.shop.
[3189.92 --> 3190.60]  That makes sense.
[3190.72 --> 3191.72]  If you can believe that,
[3191.80 --> 3193.14]  that's creative naming right there.
[3193.48 --> 3193.64]  Well,
[3193.66 --> 3194.58]  thank you to our members,
[3194.70 --> 3195.42]  our SREs.
[3195.52 --> 3196.78]  You guys are the engineers
[3196.78 --> 3197.58]  that keep us going.
[3197.66 --> 3198.32]  You give us the runway
[3198.32 --> 3199.28]  to work with the sponsors
[3199.28 --> 3200.60]  that we want to work with,
[3200.64 --> 3202.18]  not just all of the ones that ask.
[3202.60 --> 3203.78]  So we appreciate that.
[3203.86 --> 3204.66]  You could become a member
[3204.66 --> 3205.58]  and as a thank you,
[3205.68 --> 3206.72]  you get an ad-free version
[3206.72 --> 3207.24]  of the show
[3207.24 --> 3208.92]  and you get a bonus post show.
[3208.92 --> 3210.14]  self-hosted.show
[3210.14 --> 3211.68]  slash SRE.
[3211.68 --> 3212.62]  This week,
[3212.72 --> 3213.56]  we're going to be talking
[3213.56 --> 3215.58]  about my brand new soldering iron,
[3215.78 --> 3216.98]  the Pine Seal...
[3216.98 --> 3218.34]  Pine Seal?
[3218.44 --> 3219.14]  I think that's what it's called.
[3219.18 --> 3220.34]  I was going to say Pine Seal 64.
[3220.62 --> 3222.40]  I'm not sure if it's the 64 or not,
[3222.56 --> 3222.90]  but...
[3222.90 --> 3224.30]  Pine Seal version one.
[3224.84 --> 3225.02]  Yeah,
[3225.08 --> 3226.64]  it's a Pine Seal soldering iron.
[3226.76 --> 3227.86]  So if you want to hear more about that,
[3228.20 --> 3228.48]  subscribe
[3228.48 --> 3230.82]  and I'll be in the post show today.
[3230.82 --> 3233.88]  And we always are making our best efforts
[3233.88 --> 3235.48]  to do this show live
[3235.48 --> 3236.78]  every other Wednesday.
[3237.04 --> 3238.76]  We did it live on May 18th,
[3238.76 --> 3240.22]  so you can do the math on that.
[3240.56 --> 3242.22]  But we also are listing it
[3242.22 --> 3244.06]  at jupiterbroadcasting.com
[3244.06 --> 3244.82]  slash calendar
[3244.82 --> 3245.66]  where you'll get it converted
[3245.66 --> 3246.56]  to your local time.
[3246.92 --> 3247.78]  Come hang out with us.
[3247.96 --> 3249.16]  We're also chatting with the Discord
[3249.16 --> 3249.90]  as we do the show.
[3250.30 --> 3250.74]  Now don't forget,
[3251.10 --> 3252.12]  if you want to let me know
[3252.12 --> 3254.16]  ideas about the London meetup,
[3254.30 --> 3256.34]  August 6th is the provisional date.
[3256.54 --> 3258.04]  Go to self-hosted.show
[3258.04 --> 3258.80]  slash contact.
[3258.80 --> 3260.94]  And if you enjoy an episode of this show,
[3261.06 --> 3261.78]  share it with a friend.
[3262.12 --> 3263.36]  Word of mouth is the best way
[3263.36 --> 3265.06]  to share a podcast with someone.
[3265.52 --> 3266.10]  It really is.
[3266.42 --> 3266.58]  Now,
[3266.66 --> 3267.14]  thanks for listening,
[3267.24 --> 3267.54]  everybody.
[3268.06 --> 3269.34]  That was self-hosted.show
[3269.34 --> 3270.40]  slash 71.