diff --git "a/82: Roon Ready Ruh-Roh _transcript.txt" "b/82: Roon Ready Ruh-Roh _transcript.txt" new file mode 100644--- /dev/null +++ "b/82: Roon Ready Ruh-Roh _transcript.txt" @@ -0,0 +1,1813 @@ +[0.00 --> 3.54] I said I wouldn't do it until it was at least 10,000 miles old. +[3.82 --> 6.08] But here I am at 7,500 miles. +[6.26 --> 8.98] I just tuned my Golf R. +[9.54 --> 9.94] Okay. +[10.08 --> 14.68] Now, when you say tune, there's a couple of different ways to interpret that when you're talking about the Golf. +[14.74 --> 16.24] Because they have several levels of tuning. +[16.42 --> 17.48] There's software tuning. +[18.18 --> 19.40] You've got to break it down for me. +[19.54 --> 20.18] It's weird, right? +[20.22 --> 22.04] So people say, oh, I've gone stage one. +[22.10 --> 23.24] I've gone stage two. +[23.32 --> 24.00] All this kind of stuff. +[24.10 --> 28.04] So I've gone stage one with an equilibrium tune. +[28.04 --> 34.68] I was at a car show at the weekend at the local tuning house in Raleigh, Black Forest Industries. +[35.40 --> 40.72] I took the R32 down there and exhibited that off in their kind of main exhibitor area. +[40.80 --> 42.42] And I took the R down there as well. +[43.04 --> 46.32] And nobody was interested in that one because it's too new and too common. +[47.14 --> 50.22] But I got talking to a few guys about tuning options and stuff like that. +[50.24 --> 53.46] And someone was selling what's called a Cobb Access port. +[53.46 --> 59.94] This is a tiny little cell phone sized computer that you plug into the OBD2 port of your car. +[60.74 --> 69.42] I then paid $175 to a company called Equilibrium Tuning to purchase a staged tune map. +[69.88 --> 75.04] So what they do is they go into the ECU and they remap all the valve timings and injections and all that kind of stuff. +[75.04 --> 83.02] And so it takes the car from being a 280 horsepower car to being a 370 horsepower car. +[83.52 --> 85.42] With no hardware mods required. +[85.88 --> 86.68] No way. +[86.78 --> 87.86] It's insane. +[88.08 --> 89.00] That's remarkable. +[89.38 --> 94.42] I did something similar to my RV and I think I got like a 10, a 10 horsepower improvement. +[94.66 --> 94.92] 10. +[94.92 --> 99.82] These four cylinder two litre turbo engines that are in the Golf. +[100.02 --> 102.76] It's the same engine as is in your GTI. +[103.16 --> 105.86] The only difference with the R is there's an uprated turbo. +[106.00 --> 106.96] So there's a bit of a bigger turbo. +[107.52 --> 110.18] And the R is all wheel drive versus your front wheel drive. +[110.58 --> 115.96] I tell you, if you've never got into tuning and you want to talk to someone about it and you've been thinking about it, +[116.04 --> 117.34] I would love to talk to you on Discord. +[117.34 --> 125.14] I won't take up too much more of the show about it, but just to say I'm giddy with excitement with the possibilities that this has unlocked for me. +[125.52 --> 126.12] Yeah, that's amazing. +[126.28 --> 131.54] And so can I flash my GTI with a software update in theory and see some sort of improvement too? +[131.74 --> 131.94] Yeah. +[132.68 --> 133.34] Oh, man. +[134.38 --> 135.56] Oh, boy, it's getting dangerous. +[135.68 --> 139.26] I think it's just about as much horsepower as you'd want with a two wheel drive car. +[139.48 --> 140.84] But of course, you know, what do I know? +[140.92 --> 145.10] But to me, it seems like it seems like if you get much more, I'd want to go all wheel drive. +[145.18 --> 145.92] That's so awesome. +[145.92 --> 152.84] I remember when I flashed my RV's ECU, it went from like, you know, it was a drive that you could do. +[152.90 --> 156.52] You know, you were driving a bus to it felt like I was driving more of a truck. +[157.30 --> 162.48] You know, that was a nice improvement just because the biggest change for me was it meant I could get on the on-ramp. +[162.74 --> 163.28] That's just it. +[163.44 --> 163.56] Yeah. +[163.66 --> 164.02] Yeah. +[164.14 --> 165.06] At speed. +[165.36 --> 167.06] And, you know, I just had her checked. +[167.72 --> 169.78] It's been flashed for probably three years now. +[169.84 --> 172.64] And I just had her checked yesterday and she just passed all her checks. +[173.06 --> 173.98] She's excellent. +[174.12 --> 174.74] Healthy as can be. +[174.74 --> 175.00] Yeah. +[175.00 --> 177.42] Made it back from California in one piece. +[178.06 --> 179.12] Yeah, we did. +[179.30 --> 186.38] And now it's weird because we basically moved out to get some work done and I had to rip out the Wi-Fi network. +[186.52 --> 189.36] And of course, my, you know, my Raspberry Pi server died. +[189.48 --> 192.08] So all of my services were down and I had to shut down my Pi hole. +[193.06 --> 194.58] And it's just strange. +[194.74 --> 200.00] It doesn't quite feel like home anymore because I don't have control over everything that I want. +[200.22 --> 201.96] And home is where the Wi-Fi is, right? +[201.96 --> 202.32] Yeah. +[202.32 --> 202.40] Yeah. +[202.50 --> 203.30] I don't have Wi-Fi. +[203.54 --> 204.26] I don't have internet. +[204.44 --> 205.26] It's so strange. +[205.42 --> 212.86] So after tonight's episode, after we're done recording tonight, I'm going to go home, I hope, and get like the Pi hole and get the Wi-Fi back online. +[212.86 --> 219.60] Well, I couldn't quite believe it when you messaged me this week and said that your home assistant Yella has finally shown up. +[219.60 --> 221.16] It's ridiculous. +[221.40 --> 222.94] It's here at perfect timing. +[223.36 --> 223.80] Ridiculous. +[224.00 --> 225.56] It's perfect timing, right? +[225.62 --> 228.34] Because the Raspberry Pi died on the road trip. +[228.52 --> 232.06] I get home from the road trip and the yellow's there on the porch waiting for me. +[232.20 --> 232.40] Yep. +[232.54 --> 234.14] I saw the shipping notification. +[234.36 --> 237.66] So I also ordered a one terabyte NVMe stick. +[237.92 --> 242.16] So I've already opened up the yellow once and I've installed an NVMe drive. +[242.34 --> 244.14] I have a quick pile of hardware here, Alex. +[244.14 --> 248.46] Before I get to the yellow, I want to mention what I was going to use. +[249.22 --> 254.54] This is a really cool piece of hardware that's been ruggedized, industrialized, can get into super hot conditions. +[255.00 --> 257.20] And it's an Intel Atom system with quick sync. +[257.48 --> 262.36] It's out of a Tesla solar wall that I picked up on the road trip from a listener. +[262.84 --> 263.36] It's decent. +[263.50 --> 265.32] Like you can even run a full Linux desktop on it. +[265.60 --> 268.10] And it only takes about five watts idle. +[268.52 --> 270.24] So this is where I was considering going. +[270.32 --> 272.62] The only problem with this box, and I'm probably still going to use it. +[272.82 --> 274.08] I love that it's DC. +[274.58 --> 277.32] And it's got two com ports, which is amazing. +[277.72 --> 281.04] Is that an XT60 connector I see on the power cable? +[281.24 --> 281.42] Yeah. +[282.36 --> 283.70] Now I know who gave it to you. +[284.06 --> 284.28] Yeah. +[286.26 --> 289.68] And I'm probably going to use this for something else, but it's such a cool little box. +[289.84 --> 291.98] I thought, okay, I've got an option now, right? +[292.00 --> 293.22] So this was one of my options. +[293.22 --> 295.16] And it's an X86 box. +[295.60 --> 296.22] Good power draw. +[297.68 --> 298.88] Then the yellow arrived. +[299.26 --> 301.22] Now, I have to say I'm very impressed. +[301.40 --> 303.64] I think the home assistant team did a good job with the case. +[304.08 --> 305.46] I've taken it apart a couple of times. +[305.52 --> 306.60] It goes right back together. +[306.72 --> 308.16] I can get access to it really quick. +[308.64 --> 312.16] They have the logo for home assistant ingrained in the casing. +[312.40 --> 313.16] Laser etched up there. +[313.24 --> 313.70] Yeah, it's nice. +[313.80 --> 313.96] Yeah. +[313.96 --> 316.28] And all the ports are on the back. +[316.48 --> 318.40] The compute modules just popped right in. +[318.44 --> 319.86] My MVME popped right in. +[320.24 --> 325.00] I think this is going to be how I will do home assistant in the RV is on a dedicated machine. +[325.22 --> 327.48] I'm going to have a dedicated machine for home assistant. +[328.56 --> 331.60] And I'm going to have an application server for all my other stuff. +[331.78 --> 335.12] So home assistant yellow will run all of the automations and jupes. +[335.12 --> 340.66] And, you know, she's got this yellow has got EMMC for storage for the primary OS. +[340.80 --> 342.40] And they've got MVME expansion. +[342.54 --> 344.98] I don't really know how you use that, but it's in there. +[345.06 --> 350.02] So it's going to give me, I think, I expect at least five years of runway with that device. +[350.02 --> 363.30] But then on your encouragement, and I didn't expect this for like a month, I also picked up the Odroid H3 Plus that they announced shortly after our last episode. +[363.80 --> 367.54] It arrived today just a little bit before the show. +[367.68 --> 368.56] It's still in the packaging. +[368.80 --> 369.88] Oh, you went for the plus, huh? +[370.26 --> 370.68] Of course. +[370.92 --> 371.52] Of course. +[372.20 --> 373.44] Who am I talking to? +[373.54 --> 375.20] Sorry, I forgot myself for a hot second. +[376.50 --> 378.72] Now I'm showing Alex on the camera, but I'll describe it to you. +[378.72 --> 380.10] Check this out, Alex. +[380.16 --> 380.62] Here it is. +[381.02 --> 384.24] It's got two Ethernets. +[384.84 --> 387.96] It's got four USB-A. +[388.12 --> 389.28] It's got USB-C. +[389.68 --> 391.32] DC barrel power connector. +[391.80 --> 395.30] It has audio out ports, including optical audio out. +[395.38 --> 397.76] And it has HDMI and DisplayPort. +[398.28 --> 400.58] Plus, it has an Intel chip on here. +[400.64 --> 402.58] It's got a pretty meaty heatsink on it. +[402.58 --> 408.48] And on the bottom, it's got two slots for RAM and a slot for an MVME disk. +[408.72 --> 413.52] And the killer feature for me, two SATA ports on the board. +[414.04 --> 414.80] That's massive. +[414.90 --> 418.28] That's a game changer for me because I've been using USB storage forever. +[418.86 --> 421.82] Welcome to the world of real hardware, dude. +[421.98 --> 422.22] You know? +[422.30 --> 423.08] I'm so excited. +[423.34 --> 424.26] I'm so excited. +[424.54 --> 425.54] I'm so pleased. +[425.84 --> 426.96] Oh, I think it's going to be perfect. +[427.34 --> 430.02] So this is what will replace my Raspberry Pi 4. +[430.56 --> 433.76] And I'm going to run all my applications and more, right? +[433.80 --> 435.04] Because I've got more horsepower here. +[435.06 --> 436.24] And it's got QuickSync as well. +[436.66 --> 438.44] I got to get some RAM ordered for it. +[438.50 --> 439.76] I didn't expect it to arrive this soon. +[439.78 --> 441.30] So I haven't ordered anything for it. +[441.30 --> 441.94] What type of RAM? +[442.08 --> 444.20] Is it laptop style, the smaller stuff? +[444.38 --> 444.66] Yes. +[444.66 --> 444.88] Yeah. +[444.88 --> 445.08] Okay. +[445.08 --> 445.24] Yeah. +[445.28 --> 446.10] It's the small stuff. +[446.20 --> 447.20] I think it's DDR4. +[447.34 --> 450.36] Do I recall reading that thing will take up to 64 gigs of RAM? +[450.84 --> 451.08] Yes. +[451.16 --> 452.04] I believe that is the case. +[452.14 --> 454.22] I need to, I should have grabbed the specs before the show. +[454.52 --> 455.50] I was so excited. +[455.94 --> 456.68] It's funny, right? +[456.70 --> 460.10] Because when the Pi 4 died, I was like, crap, I don't know what I'm going to do. +[460.18 --> 462.70] I don't, I have nothing I want to replace this with. +[462.74 --> 465.72] I'm like, I guess I could build it around another Pi 4 again. +[465.72 --> 470.02] But then I'm not really going, I'm going through all this work and I'm not getting a performance upgrade. +[470.66 --> 473.58] And then this thing shows up just a little bit after last episode. +[473.70 --> 473.80] Yeah. +[473.82 --> 474.54] It's perfect timing. +[474.76 --> 475.90] They actually shipped it. +[476.08 --> 476.66] I got it. +[476.82 --> 478.06] I can't believe it. +[478.36 --> 479.24] I can't believe it. +[479.68 --> 484.12] I think what I want to do is first is I want to, I want to load desktop Linux on here just to see what it's like. +[484.14 --> 488.36] And then I'll wipe it off immediately and start building, I think, a Nix OS server. +[488.78 --> 489.74] I mean, it looks amazing. +[489.74 --> 491.80] And I shared it with you for this exact reason. +[491.84 --> 493.34] It's got a passive heatsink on it. +[493.34 --> 499.82] So, you know, it can run completely, completely silently, which is perfect for a small space like the RV. +[500.48 --> 501.22] Yes, totally. +[501.62 --> 513.68] The only thing I would change about it, and I don't have one, but the only thing I would change about it is the fact that both of those Nix are Realtek 2.5 gig Nix. +[514.08 --> 520.04] I would have preferred two Intel Nix just simply for better hardware compatibility reasons. +[520.04 --> 529.78] You know, Realtek's probably fine, but if ever I've had a Nix issue in the past, it's been not an Intel Nix and a Quantia or Realtek or something like that. +[530.18 --> 534.20] Whereas Intel Nix just work and it takes all the problems away. +[534.74 --> 536.52] But anyway, I'm nitpicking. +[536.78 --> 538.52] Otherwise, it's a fantastic looking board. +[539.06 --> 542.16] I imagine they'll be fine, but I also 100% agree with you. +[542.16 --> 547.52] I would also prefer that, though I'm just excited to have a Nix that isn't on the USB bus. +[547.98 --> 549.48] So, you know, that's good, too. +[549.68 --> 552.14] I don't think it was for the Pi 4, but it is for most of the Pis. +[552.32 --> 558.84] And if you wanted to ever add a secondary Nix to the Raspberry Pi to, like, use it for a firewall or something like that, you would be doing that over USB. +[559.40 --> 562.06] So for me, it's like, OK, at least they're on the PCI bus. +[562.16 --> 564.18] And then it would be nice if they were Intel. +[564.38 --> 566.10] But I'll take on the PCI bus. +[566.10 --> 567.28] So what are you going to run on it? +[567.52 --> 569.94] Proxmox and then virtualize like Home Assistant that way? +[570.24 --> 572.70] Oh, I should consider Proxmox, huh? +[573.42 --> 578.44] Well, you know, I'd still kind of subscribe to the no container theory for a lot of this stuff. +[578.52 --> 580.22] And Nix OS would be really good for that. +[580.52 --> 583.10] But it does make a lot of sense to have Proxmox sitting on there. +[583.16 --> 586.02] And I shouldn't have any problem passing QuickSync through, right? +[586.06 --> 586.72] That should be fine. +[587.04 --> 588.64] So what would you need to pass it through for? +[589.18 --> 589.42] Plex. +[589.72 --> 595.44] Yeah, I mean, we'll come on to this topic later in the show because it's actually been coming up quite a lot in Discord lately about LXC versus +[595.44 --> 598.60] Docker versus VMs, all that kind of stuff. +[598.70 --> 599.92] We'll come to that later. +[600.08 --> 601.20] Please remind me if I forget. +[602.02 --> 608.06] But in the meantime, I also saw another update in the news feed this week that I thought would make you a happy little bunny. +[608.68 --> 612.56] Apple with, I think, iOS 16.1 are actually shipping. +[612.86 --> 613.48] It's real. +[613.58 --> 615.10] It's really happening, people. +[615.88 --> 616.78] They're shipping matter. +[618.08 --> 619.38] This is my week, man. +[619.38 --> 620.54] This is my week. +[620.96 --> 622.38] It's all coming together, buddy. +[622.64 --> 624.78] And the thing is, they're shipping it on the HomePod. +[624.78 --> 626.86] They're updating the HomePod to support matter. +[627.06 --> 635.08] And they just announced today as we record a new Apple TV and the fancier version that has Ethernet also supports thread and matter. +[635.16 --> 639.00] So they're, I mean, surprisingly going all in for Apple, at least. +[639.60 --> 644.62] I don't really know if this changes what I'm going to do hardware wise in terms of like sensors and devices yet. +[644.62 --> 651.94] But I am curious what it means for accessibility of Apple's remote control features to like Home Assistant. +[652.48 --> 659.78] Like when Home Assistant gets their hands on this, maybe I'll have remote integrated control even better than I did before without even having to use HomeKit at all or something. +[660.32 --> 661.22] That would be nice, wouldn't it? +[661.30 --> 661.46] Yeah. +[661.56 --> 662.28] Yeah, maybe not. +[662.82 --> 671.74] What's important about this update coming out now, Apple being the first mover, I think, in actually shipping, you know, provider level support for this stuff. +[671.74 --> 673.84] That's a very strange place for Apple to be. +[674.50 --> 675.86] But anyway, you've already got HomePods. +[675.94 --> 676.94] You've already got Apple TVs. +[677.34 --> 690.04] So for you, you could just purchase one or two Matter devices and kind of dip your toe in nice and early and get a feeling for it without having to spend hundreds or thousands of dollars on all new sensors and all new whatever. +[690.04 --> 696.60] And you can just do a couple of things and kind of drip feed this stuff in as support lands in Home Assistant and that kind of stuff. +[697.06 --> 698.54] Which is probably the best way to go, right? +[698.78 --> 707.34] Because I guess if history is to be our teacher, it's very possible that the Rev1 devices could be kind of so-so and this thing takes a couple of revisions. +[707.70 --> 708.10] No. +[709.10 --> 709.50] No. +[710.10 --> 711.72] The first iPhone was perfect. +[711.86 --> 712.36] Yeah, right. +[712.52 --> 712.76] Right. +[712.80 --> 713.22] Of course. +[713.34 --> 716.12] And the first wireless communications protocols are always perfect, too. +[716.52 --> 716.78] Yeah. +[716.78 --> 722.46] I'm seeing the reaction to the H3, the Odroid H3 that we just talked about in the Discord chat. +[722.82 --> 726.42] It's probably a good job you got one because I think half our audience are about to buy one. +[726.92 --> 731.36] I've got to imagine they would be because it seems like the perfect device for what we do. +[731.46 --> 733.76] I mean, low power but performance where it counts. +[734.42 --> 736.94] NVMe storage instead of an EMMC or SSD. +[737.70 --> 740.32] And, of course, having those two SATA ports. +[740.32 --> 741.80] I have a request for you. +[741.90 --> 746.78] Could you do some energy monitoring for us and, like, compare what a pie draws versus this thing? +[747.32 --> 752.98] Because my argument to you for all these years has been, look how much more powerful x86 is for the same power budget. +[753.28 --> 756.84] So I'm curious as to what that, in reality, is that true or not? +[757.00 --> 757.16] Yeah. +[757.42 --> 758.38] Yeah, that's a great thing to check. +[758.44 --> 758.68] I will. +[759.14 --> 764.22] I'm also wondering, you know, should I figure out what my power budget is? +[764.22 --> 769.40] I've always just kind of played fast and loose, you know, three, four pies down to two pies. +[769.84 --> 775.30] So if I look at that, like, what would four pies have taken versus having everything on just two devices? +[775.54 --> 780.28] The yellow, which I expect is going to be, you know, what a CM4 takes plus a little bit more. +[780.64 --> 783.94] And then now this H-Droid or Odroid H3. +[785.40 --> 788.70] I'm expecting somewhere around five to six watts idle. +[788.94 --> 790.58] And then who knows when it's ramped up? +[790.72 --> 791.48] We'll find out. +[791.94 --> 792.98] You just got to figure it out, eh? +[793.52 --> 794.06] Figure it out. +[794.22 --> 797.74] Linode.com slash SSH. +[797.82 --> 800.74] That's where 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tried out rune this week. +[920.10 --> 921.30] For all of you lovely people. +[921.78 --> 922.36] I love it. +[922.86 --> 926.84] I didn't want to because it's so damn expensive. +[927.62 --> 927.72] Yeah. +[927.72 --> 933.78] But rune bills itself as the audiophile player for music fanatics. +[934.76 --> 942.74] So essentially you run a piece of software on a NAS or a computer or a server like I have. +[943.44 --> 948.72] And it goes through and it catalogs all of your FLAC files, all of your audio. +[948.72 --> 950.10] So it can be lossy stuff. +[950.16 --> 951.36] It can be lossless. +[951.98 --> 952.34] Whatever. +[952.34 --> 952.92] All right. +[952.98 --> 953.64] That sounds great. +[954.22 --> 957.40] I've got about a quarter of a million files I've acquired over the years. +[957.62 --> 960.30] A lot of them have ripped, actually, of CD rips. +[960.40 --> 961.62] I did a decade plus ago. +[961.72 --> 965.14] I went before I donated all my CDs to the charity shop. +[965.14 --> 967.40] The performance has been fine. +[967.40 --> 972.92] You know, it indexed that quarter of a million files in, I don't know, six hours or so. +[973.14 --> 975.52] Maybe three, four, five, six hours, something like that. +[976.06 --> 978.48] Is this running on a Windows machine, Linux machine, Mac? +[978.62 --> 981.40] I'm running it in a Docker container on my Linux server. +[981.52 --> 983.32] But you can run it on a Windows machine too. +[983.42 --> 985.00] So they do offer it as a Docker container? +[985.00 --> 985.36] Yeah. +[985.74 --> 991.82] Well, I don't know if they officially do, but it's certainly possible because it's just a Linux app. +[992.60 --> 999.00] The real issue with it, though, is that to run this server, they charge... +[999.00 --> 1001.80] I can't believe I'm going to say this. +[1002.18 --> 1007.14] They charge me $10 a month for access to my own files. +[1007.58 --> 1008.06] Yeah. +[1008.24 --> 1008.48] Okay. +[1008.48 --> 1011.46] It's bring your own streaming service. +[1011.64 --> 1013.54] Bring your own music streaming service, essentially. +[1014.24 --> 1016.02] It does have a couple of nice features. +[1016.18 --> 1021.96] Like it integrates with Tidal and CoBuzz for high-res gap filling in your library. +[1022.06 --> 1026.22] So let's say you're missing an album or a new album came out that you haven't bought yet or something like that. +[1026.80 --> 1031.82] It will automatically go to Tidal and CoBuzz if you have an active subscription with those two services +[1031.82 --> 1035.62] and pull it in and fill in the gaps for you, which is really nice. +[1035.62 --> 1039.60] And it tries to automatically prioritize the highest quality version of a track available. +[1040.20 --> 1047.90] So let's say I had an MP3 in my local library, but CoBuzz has a high-res, you know, high-res mastered version of it. +[1048.08 --> 1050.92] It will play the CoBuzz version, which I really liked. +[1051.32 --> 1053.06] Yeah, that does seem like the way you'd want it. +[1053.32 --> 1058.04] And I guess that $10 is going towards the access to the licenses to stream that stuff automatically? +[1058.46 --> 1059.24] I guess so. +[1059.24 --> 1066.76] But Rune's killer feature, and I say this genuinely out of love, is the way it presents metadata. +[1067.40 --> 1070.90] So you end up with this kind of like magazine view of an album. +[1071.04 --> 1077.10] So let's say I'm listening to some Led Zeppelin or something, and it shows me Led Zepp 4. +[1077.60 --> 1079.64] That's the best Led Zepp album, in my opinion. +[1079.92 --> 1083.96] And so I go in there and I look at it and I click on one of the tracks and I can see on the credits, +[1083.96 --> 1089.42] you know, all the different people associated with a specific album and, you know, who produced it, +[1089.50 --> 1090.82] who did the mixing for it. +[1090.82 --> 1098.54] And if you're a proper audio nerd, you can go down the rabbit hole really deep, really fast, +[1098.54 --> 1104.92] because each of the names and each of the albums mentioned in the description about this thing is a link. +[1105.36 --> 1107.64] And that's powered on their server side. +[1108.38 --> 1112.40] You know, for example, Stephen Wilson is one of my personal musical heroes. +[1112.40 --> 1114.22] He's in a band called Porcupine Tree. +[1114.38 --> 1115.84] He's done a bunch of solo stuff as well. +[1116.84 --> 1121.62] And he is probably the most famous musician you've never heard of. +[1122.08 --> 1126.50] Like he works with all, he mixes film soundtracks and all kinds of stuff. +[1127.00 --> 1130.96] And so when I dig into Stephen's profile, I get to see everything he's associated with +[1130.96 --> 1134.14] and everything he's worked as an engineer on and worked as an editor on. +[1134.34 --> 1137.56] And before you know it, you found 10 new bands you didn't know you liked, +[1137.60 --> 1139.68] because it's got some of your favourite influences in. +[1140.20 --> 1141.02] So that's amazing. +[1141.02 --> 1146.26] The way it presents metadata is genuinely Rune's killer, killer feature. +[1146.82 --> 1150.94] The other thing that I like about it is the fact it does multi-room audio, +[1151.04 --> 1152.90] much in the same way as like a Sonos does. +[1153.48 --> 1157.02] You have a little icon in your playback client, +[1157.16 --> 1161.04] and then you can just check a box and suddenly you've got two devices playing in sync. +[1161.82 --> 1167.66] That doesn't sound too incredible until I explain the scenario that really blew my mind. +[1167.66 --> 1173.24] So Rune has this thing called Rune Advanced Audio Transport, RAT. +[1174.04 --> 1178.92] That runs on anything that runs a Rune Ready or a Rune Native client. +[1179.22 --> 1186.72] So certain amplifiers have been certified by Rune and by Marantz and Denon and all these big guys. +[1186.72 --> 1195.16] They pay Rune a small fee and they embed the Rune Ready receiver software into their network streamers. +[1195.16 --> 1205.82] You can also run a RAT Ready device on a Windows PC, a Mac computer, an iOS device, a Raspberry Pi. +[1206.66 --> 1209.48] And so you can cast effectively. +[1209.74 --> 1215.18] It's not quite casting, but you can stream music to any RAT Ready device in sync, +[1215.18 --> 1217.14] no matter what OS it's running. +[1217.38 --> 1218.78] So just paint this. +[1218.86 --> 1221.44] I've got my iPad out on the deck where I'm grilling some meats. +[1222.34 --> 1227.28] In the lounge next door, I've got a Raspberry Pi plugged into a HiFi running Linux. +[1227.48 --> 1230.46] In the room next door, I've got my laptop running Mac OS. +[1231.24 --> 1235.08] And all three of those devices are playing audio perfectly in sync +[1235.08 --> 1238.40] that I'm controlling from my iPhone with a single checkbox. +[1238.86 --> 1241.76] Oh, that is pretty glorious. +[1242.14 --> 1243.40] That's the dream, isn't it? +[1243.74 --> 1243.96] Yeah. +[1244.50 --> 1244.78] Yeah. +[1245.18 --> 1247.64] All the machines, all the speakers, all the OSs. +[1248.18 --> 1254.20] The catch, and unfortunately, I think there's probably some technical limitations here at play, +[1254.40 --> 1260.94] is that you can only stream like that to devices that are part of the same kind of ecosystem. +[1261.30 --> 1265.84] So I can only group devices that are RAT devices. +[1265.84 --> 1268.36] I can only group Chromecast devices together. +[1268.44 --> 1270.54] I can only group AirPlay devices together. +[1270.54 --> 1275.26] I can't stream to an AirPlay and a Chromecast device at the same time. +[1275.34 --> 1276.10] Do you have any idea why? +[1276.16 --> 1277.50] That's a pretty interesting limitation. +[1277.86 --> 1283.18] Well, I mean, AirPlay, the way it buffers the stream is quite different to how Chromecast buffers the stream. +[1283.30 --> 1285.32] So it's using their native protocols. +[1285.38 --> 1287.08] It's not using like a client on that. +[1287.20 --> 1288.14] Oh, yeah. +[1288.14 --> 1288.34] Okay. +[1288.34 --> 1289.16] That makes sense. +[1289.22 --> 1290.60] Well, that's what the RAT stuff is doing. +[1290.60 --> 1295.60] So the RAT stuff is running a native client on the specific device, so iOS or whatever. +[1296.38 --> 1297.78] And that's why you can't group them together. +[1297.92 --> 1311.68] And I was a little bit deflated to start with when I found that out because I had this magical vision of all the Google Home Nest Mini hub things I have around the house and all my computers and everything all working perfectly in sync. +[1311.68 --> 1314.42] And unfortunately, that isn't the case. +[1316.92 --> 1323.12] What if you bought the Nucleus Plus, which is their $2,600 server that you can buy from them? +[1323.20 --> 1325.68] How do you know this service is aimed at audio files, huh? +[1326.08 --> 1327.10] How to tell, right? +[1327.28 --> 1329.00] I mean, it's a cool looking case. +[1329.54 --> 1330.38] I'll give them that. +[1330.44 --> 1332.26] It's a beautiful ecosystem. +[1332.78 --> 1334.02] Yeah, they've got a... +[1334.02 --> 1336.80] So you can run this Rune Core, this server software. +[1337.28 --> 1339.12] You can run it in a Docker container like I am. +[1339.12 --> 1341.64] You can run it on a Synology, on a computer. +[1342.04 --> 1345.06] But Rune also sell this thing called the Nucleus. +[1345.14 --> 1349.72] And Chris is showing on the stream now something called the Whirlwind, which is a rack mount version of the same thing. +[1350.10 --> 1350.82] It's so great. +[1351.42 --> 1353.66] That one's $4,500, by the way. +[1354.66 --> 1363.10] And you know what's funny is if you actually dig into the specs page on these pages, there is zero information about what CPU is in there. +[1363.30 --> 1367.10] There is a page where they just say they have on their partners page. +[1367.20 --> 1368.76] They say they have partnered with Intel. +[1368.76 --> 1369.70] Yeah, that's it. +[1370.12 --> 1378.60] I mean, who's to say whether it's a Celeron from 2003 or whether it's an i7 12th gen? +[1378.72 --> 1381.88] I mean, I imagine it's neither, but we don't know. +[1382.00 --> 1383.24] And that's the point, right? +[1383.30 --> 1384.70] It's a black box, literally. +[1384.92 --> 1385.02] Yeah. +[1385.20 --> 1391.48] And when you're dropping that kind of cash, I guess, you know, and of course, the answer is they're selling this to a market who couldn't care less. +[1391.58 --> 1392.46] We realize that. +[1392.64 --> 1395.42] But it's still, it wouldn't kill them to put the specs on there. +[1395.42 --> 1397.80] If you go by the ports, it looks like it's a NUC in there. +[1397.90 --> 1398.82] I have to say. +[1399.36 --> 1400.32] Yeah, I agree. +[1401.20 --> 1405.72] So, I mean, if we can get over the price of this thing, because I mentioned the monthly price. +[1405.78 --> 1408.42] I didn't mention they also offer a lifetime pass. +[1409.20 --> 1409.40] Okay. +[1409.40 --> 1421.10] I mean, if you're really stuck with it and they stuck around, you know, you got somewhere between five to ten years out of this and it had high spousal approval. +[1422.46 --> 1422.90] Maybe. +[1423.18 --> 1424.06] I mean, I could see that. +[1424.60 --> 1427.90] So, Rune as a company was founded, I think, in 2015. +[1427.90 --> 1438.12] And so, if you'd bought into Rune in 2015 and paid $700, you would only just be breaking even on your monthly subscription. +[1438.92 --> 1440.70] Just put that into perspective. +[1440.90 --> 1444.44] Seven years is a long time for an ROI on that kind of thing. +[1445.38 --> 1447.96] And I wrestled with this pretty hard before I actually tried Rune out. +[1448.08 --> 1449.88] You know, I wanted to hate it because it was expensive. +[1450.02 --> 1452.18] I wanted to hate it because it was closed source. +[1452.18 --> 1456.36] But then I thought, well, so is Plex, isn't it? +[1456.46 --> 1457.86] And you like Plex just fine. +[1458.66 --> 1462.72] And so, I kind of came to terms with it and got over myself and thought, yeah, you know, it's fine. +[1462.78 --> 1465.36] You can try it out and you'll hate it anyway. +[1466.72 --> 1467.52] I don't. +[1467.68 --> 1468.24] I love it. +[1469.26 --> 1474.06] The trouble is, just as I've been doing this, they've made a big release. +[1474.20 --> 1481.10] They've just released the 2.0, the version 2, which if you're a Rune aficionado is a huge deal. +[1481.10 --> 1485.12] But to me, as a newbie, it's just unstable, right? +[1487.00 --> 1489.02] So, you're familiar with Plexamp, right? +[1489.10 --> 1491.52] The app that lets you play your Plex music remotely. +[1492.16 --> 1492.42] Love it. +[1492.70 --> 1496.72] Rune have just released an equivalent app called Rune Arc, A-R-C. +[1497.54 --> 1501.80] And this lets you access all of your Rune music outside the house. +[1501.94 --> 1506.20] As it stands, the Rune desktop and mobile clients that already existed +[1506.20 --> 1511.10] only worked if you were on your LAN and directly connected to your Rune core. +[1511.78 --> 1514.34] I couldn't get it to work over tail scale remotely. +[1514.84 --> 1518.00] So, Rune Arc kind of bridges that gap for a lot of people. +[1519.08 --> 1524.12] However, this brings us to the cons section of my document. +[1524.12 --> 1533.12] I don't really know how else to say this, but Rune with 2.0 have shot their... +[1533.98 --> 1537.26] They're kind of eating their own face, okay? +[1537.54 --> 1542.94] And the reason I say that is because, firstly, they're charging me $10 a month +[1542.94 --> 1548.78] for access to my own files, plus the metadata, plus the integrations with Tidal and Cobuzz. +[1548.78 --> 1549.26] Okay. +[1550.46 --> 1552.42] However, it gets worse. +[1552.98 --> 1559.38] They guarantee, with the 2.0 update, zero minutes of offline playback. +[1559.76 --> 1563.46] If the Rune core cannot connect to the internet, +[1564.48 --> 1570.26] Rune's position is that they guarantee zero minutes of playback. +[1570.70 --> 1573.80] Because they don't want to have to pay out when somebody's Wi-Fi goes down +[1573.80 --> 1576.62] or their router takes a crap, something like that, you think? +[1576.62 --> 1581.48] Well, according to Johnny Darko, who is the source of this information, +[1581.62 --> 1586.06] he spoke to, I think his name is Danny, over at Rune about this. +[1586.12 --> 1588.08] There's a link in the show notes to this video because it's... +[1589.10 --> 1591.34] I couldn't quite believe what I was watching. +[1591.58 --> 1594.94] And, you know, Johnny Darko is a proper audiophile, +[1595.06 --> 1599.40] and I trust his opinion almost implicitly on an awful lot of audio gear. +[1599.56 --> 1601.64] And just, I like the way his videos feel. +[1601.80 --> 1603.50] I like the way he presents information. +[1603.50 --> 1606.92] He's a British guy living in, I think, Berlin. +[1607.22 --> 1607.58] Oh! +[1608.24 --> 1609.10] So, yeah. +[1609.34 --> 1610.70] We've got to stick together, you know. +[1611.30 --> 1615.60] But what's interesting is Johnny is clearly not a techno guy like us, right? +[1616.26 --> 1619.98] And listening to someone who's operating on the edge of their understanding +[1619.98 --> 1623.36] about how some of these technologies on the server side of things work, +[1623.50 --> 1626.36] it's really interesting because it shows you, actually, +[1626.52 --> 1629.44] that I think Rune are just trying to pull the wool over people's eyes. +[1629.44 --> 1631.06] And I don't say that lightly. +[1631.48 --> 1636.48] And the reason I do say it is because the Rune projects say they're doing this +[1636.48 --> 1640.44] always online connectivity thing for the server +[1640.44 --> 1644.38] because they want to move a lot of the processing to the cloud +[1644.38 --> 1647.22] and to move the product forward and all that kind of stuff. +[1647.28 --> 1651.14] So a lot of the local processing that currently happens on the Nucleus, +[1651.28 --> 1655.78] on the Rune core, on my local network, is moving into the cloud. +[1655.78 --> 1659.38] And they say that they'll be able to batch stuff up and make it more efficient +[1659.38 --> 1662.88] and kind of, you know, de-duplicate a lot of, you know, +[1663.00 --> 1664.62] template matching and all that kind of stuff. +[1665.04 --> 1666.86] Which I get, which I understand, +[1667.06 --> 1671.36] and does actually make some semblance of sense. +[1671.84 --> 1676.70] However, we're talking about this through a lens of self-hosting, right? +[1676.78 --> 1679.16] That's the name of the podcast, right? +[1680.10 --> 1683.98] Just imagine a situation where your internet goes out for half an hour every day +[1683.98 --> 1689.90] and you suddenly can't play back the files on your NAS under your desk in your basement. +[1690.40 --> 1695.32] You know, it's just unacceptable on a huge number of levels for me personally. +[1695.50 --> 1699.64] And I think despite how much I love Rune so far and, you know, +[1699.80 --> 1703.80] the 2.0 release has been a little buggy and, you know, not perfect, +[1704.36 --> 1705.46] a little rough around the edges, +[1705.46 --> 1709.74] I just can't adopt a product that costs this much money +[1709.74 --> 1716.10] and compromises on such a fundamental capability like that +[1716.10 --> 1719.60] or of an offline self-hosted type product. +[1719.80 --> 1721.64] It's just, I just can't. +[1722.06 --> 1723.58] Yeah, that's a fairly, that's a fair point. +[1723.84 --> 1725.88] Especially when you consider there's people out there that maybe +[1725.88 --> 1728.00] they're on Starlink and they're having a bad day +[1728.00 --> 1730.84] or they're on LTE and they're having a bad day and... +[1730.84 --> 1734.44] Or they live in the third world and the entire island is connected +[1734.44 --> 1736.68] through a single satellite type people. +[1737.26 --> 1741.10] That surely is not a big part of Rune's core audience. +[1741.58 --> 1742.28] Starlink customers. +[1742.74 --> 1744.14] I could see the Starlink customers though. +[1744.26 --> 1745.62] Starlink people are out there, you know. +[1745.74 --> 1746.80] You know, the thing is, is like, +[1746.86 --> 1748.90] it's sort of taking away one of the biggest advantages +[1748.90 --> 1751.52] of you collecting all that stuff locally for so many years. +[1751.52 --> 1752.80] And it's just... +[1752.80 --> 1755.06] At that point, why not just have a Cobuzz subscription +[1755.06 --> 1756.02] or a Tidal subscription? +[1756.26 --> 1760.80] What value is Rune adding if I can't even, let's say, you know, +[1760.84 --> 1765.22] one of my friend's dad's was, is out of power for like eight to ten days +[1765.22 --> 1768.24] with Hurricane Ian a couple of weeks ago, you know. +[1769.38 --> 1769.78] Yikes. +[1769.90 --> 1770.52] It's just no good. +[1770.68 --> 1771.16] It's no good. +[1771.56 --> 1772.44] You know, for the pricing, +[1772.72 --> 1774.00] especially if you were looking at server hardware, +[1774.46 --> 1776.94] you could almost just afford to just buy sets of speakers +[1776.94 --> 1779.86] for every single room and just put a dedicated hardware device on them +[1779.86 --> 1780.64] and just call it good. +[1781.10 --> 1781.46] Yeah. +[1782.92 --> 1785.86] That's, it was, it does sound like it was really nice for a moment though. +[1785.86 --> 1788.20] The alternative is Sonos, really, +[1788.40 --> 1790.68] that's got this level of fit and finish and polish. +[1790.68 --> 1791.52] And all the rest of it. +[1792.00 --> 1793.50] But Sonos is just hardware. +[1793.94 --> 1797.08] And as we talked about several episodes ago, +[1797.62 --> 1800.24] when Sonos decide that a device is no longer supported, +[1800.44 --> 1802.74] suddenly that perfectly good speaker cone +[1802.74 --> 1806.82] and that perfectly good amplifier unit become a brick +[1806.82 --> 1809.04] thanks to their business model, you know. +[1809.24 --> 1810.60] And that's a thing. +[1811.18 --> 1811.80] It's frustrating. +[1812.50 --> 1815.94] So I think that the next one to look at is probably Volumio, +[1816.10 --> 1817.68] although I've heard mixed reports about that. +[1817.68 --> 1820.52] And I certainly don't expect the level of fit and finish I've seen from Rune. +[1820.94 --> 1823.28] The other one to keep an eye on is Plexamp Headless. +[1823.50 --> 1825.76] There's been some pretty good movement over there lately. +[1826.36 --> 1829.12] I think they're working on multi-room audio stuff, +[1829.40 --> 1832.78] but it won't have the Rune audio transport stuff. +[1832.94 --> 1835.50] So I doubt it will be quite as polished again, +[1835.62 --> 1836.60] but who knows? +[1836.76 --> 1838.24] Who knows where this will go? +[1838.42 --> 1840.82] But that's my review of Rune, people. +[1841.50 --> 1841.76] Fascinating. +[1841.88 --> 1843.36] Thank you for updating us on that. +[1843.44 --> 1846.86] We've been getting a good series of feedback on multi-room audio. +[1846.96 --> 1848.16] It's something people are trying to solve. +[1848.56 --> 1850.12] And I know there's got to be somebody out there that's like, +[1850.18 --> 1852.92] just get a Pi Zero, you know, or something like that. +[1853.06 --> 1854.74] But do you really have time? +[1855.42 --> 1857.86] Well, Rune, sorry to come back to Rune again, +[1857.94 --> 1861.50] but I'm running one of the Playbacks devices. +[1861.50 --> 1865.58] It's a Rue P, a Raspberry Pi running the Rune server. +[1865.70 --> 1865.98] Right. +[1866.24 --> 1866.48] Okay. +[1866.48 --> 1868.84] So I am using Raspberry Pi as part of this as well. +[1869.16 --> 1873.70] So, you know, maybe one day I'll find the perfect solution. +[1873.88 --> 1877.52] But I think until Rune guarantee, I don't know, +[1878.30 --> 1881.66] seven days before the core has to phone home again. +[1881.68 --> 1882.68] It used to be 30 days. +[1882.74 --> 1886.34] The grace period, by the way, with 1.8, which is the previous release, +[1886.82 --> 1889.28] used to be 30 days, and now it's zero minutes. +[1890.98 --> 1892.16] It's just a hard sell. +[1892.90 --> 1894.40] Yeah, especially when you're paying 10 bucks a month. +[1894.40 --> 1899.00] It feels like when you're paying for something like that that's using your own media, +[1899.96 --> 1901.30] they should give you grace periods like that. +[1901.36 --> 1902.40] 30 days sounds about right. +[1903.48 --> 1904.16] That's about it. +[1904.52 --> 1905.90] You know, I'm going to be buying new gear soon. +[1906.58 --> 1908.30] Cloudfree.shop is where I'll go to check it out. +[1908.56 --> 1909.16] And you can too. +[1909.22 --> 1911.40] If you use the promo code SSH, I think you get like a buck off. +[1912.64 --> 1913.60] Lightswitch is coming soon. +[1913.82 --> 1914.98] Cloudfree lightswitches. +[1915.66 --> 1917.08] Lightswitches is definitely the way I want to go. +[1917.56 --> 1919.26] And after we get to the feedback today, +[1919.98 --> 1921.62] I think I'm going to be doubling down on Zigbee. +[1922.10 --> 1923.54] I'll tell you more about that later, though. +[1923.54 --> 1925.28] Cloudfree.shop. +[1925.72 --> 1927.12] Promo code self-hosted. +[1927.42 --> 1931.12] Yeah, one of my Shelleys just failed, actually, in the garage. +[1931.32 --> 1933.70] The actual switch, the relay part still works. +[1934.04 --> 1936.28] But when I flick the physical switch in the wall, +[1936.76 --> 1938.38] which in the garage you do all the time, +[1939.36 --> 1940.28] nothing happens. +[1940.42 --> 1941.92] So I've no idea what's happened with that one. +[1942.18 --> 1942.44] Bummer. +[1943.00 --> 1944.28] It's kind of a pain that I'm about to take it out. +[1944.98 --> 1945.20] You know? +[1945.24 --> 1945.52] Yeah. +[1945.74 --> 1946.32] Well, I'm looking. +[1946.70 --> 1948.46] I was thinking about getting one of those zoo switches +[1948.46 --> 1950.02] that we talked about last episode. +[1950.02 --> 1953.10] But I don't want to go just C-wave just for a few light switches. +[1953.20 --> 1955.64] I'd like to stay within the Zigbee universe. +[1955.88 --> 1958.92] So if you have a good Zigbee switch recommendation, +[1959.42 --> 1961.92] please let us know at self-hosted.show slash contact. +[1962.30 --> 1963.30] Speaking of feedback, +[1964.04 --> 1966.42] Docker versus LXC versus a VM. +[1966.56 --> 1968.00] You teased it earlier in the show, +[1968.22 --> 1970.10] and it's been a point of conversation recently. +[1970.60 --> 1970.72] Yeah. +[1970.80 --> 1972.72] Monkey Angst and I were talking on Discord, +[1972.72 --> 1974.76] and he wrote in saying, +[1974.84 --> 1977.02] I'm trying to decide between using an LXC +[1977.02 --> 1979.46] or another containerization technology. +[1979.96 --> 1982.36] What are you using these days, Alex, and why? +[1982.88 --> 1985.86] Well, the short answer is Docker, +[1986.20 --> 1987.38] and Docker and more Docker, +[1988.08 --> 1989.86] plus some virtualization, +[1990.96 --> 1992.76] and I think that's a... +[1992.76 --> 1994.50] Oh, and I suppose in the cloud, too, +[1994.54 --> 1995.52] there's a couple of things up there. +[1996.00 --> 1997.52] Most of that stuff's running in Docker, too. +[1998.04 --> 1999.36] And I'm just going to, you know, +[1999.50 --> 2000.76] preface everything I'm about to say +[2000.76 --> 2003.38] by saying that it's personal choice, +[2003.56 --> 2006.18] and there's more than one way +[2006.18 --> 2008.80] to skin a particular cat in this arena. +[2009.30 --> 2011.92] The way I do it is I run everything in Docker +[2011.92 --> 2014.66] because Docker Compose is awesome. +[2015.38 --> 2017.20] It's a great way to manage your personal systems. +[2017.58 --> 2018.58] It's a great way to separate, +[2019.10 --> 2020.70] without really having to do much of anything, +[2021.16 --> 2023.54] separate out the application and the data. +[2023.64 --> 2025.16] And just from a system-building standpoint, +[2025.68 --> 2027.12] that is a great design practice, +[2027.12 --> 2029.62] and Docker just gives it to you as a general practice. +[2030.40 --> 2032.30] And the other thing about LXCs to consider +[2032.30 --> 2034.98] is that the benefits of them +[2034.98 --> 2037.00] is that it gives you an init system. +[2037.30 --> 2038.32] So for those that aren't familiar, +[2038.48 --> 2040.18] an init system is something like systemd. +[2040.98 --> 2042.86] With a typical Docker container +[2042.86 --> 2044.46] or some kind of other Linux container, +[2044.62 --> 2048.24] what happens is the main process inside that container +[2048.24 --> 2050.82] gets given PID1, process ID1. +[2051.54 --> 2055.26] And when that PID dies, the container dies with it. +[2055.26 --> 2057.38] The same, by the way, is true of your Linux server +[2057.38 --> 2060.44] or your Linux desktop or whatever you're running Linux on. +[2060.80 --> 2062.98] When PID1 dies, the system dies, +[2063.06 --> 2065.66] and typically that PID1 is systemd these days. +[2066.44 --> 2072.10] In an LXC, what happens is you get an init system like systemd. +[2072.94 --> 2075.92] My biggest gripe with LXC generally, +[2076.12 --> 2077.16] and there's two really, +[2077.16 --> 2080.12] one is that it's an extra layer of complexity +[2080.12 --> 2082.04] that not that many people are using. +[2082.18 --> 2085.00] Some people in our self-hosted community are using it, +[2085.22 --> 2087.22] but generally it's on the fringes +[2087.22 --> 2088.42] compared to the number of people +[2088.42 --> 2089.90] that are using Docker containers. +[2090.56 --> 2093.78] The second thing is that running more than one process +[2093.78 --> 2095.90] in an isolated environment like that +[2095.90 --> 2098.36] is a bit of an anti-pattern. +[2098.50 --> 2099.52] And the reason I say that +[2099.52 --> 2101.46] is because containers are designed +[2101.46 --> 2104.38] to be this black box almost +[2104.38 --> 2107.30] of just a single block with a single purpose. +[2108.04 --> 2109.10] And if you start trying to run +[2109.10 --> 2111.30] more than one service inside that container, +[2111.56 --> 2113.52] so let's say systemd plus a web server, +[2114.04 --> 2115.52] on the face of it, +[2115.58 --> 2117.78] you're only running one service, right? +[2117.82 --> 2118.42] A web server. +[2118.62 --> 2119.70] But actually you're running two, +[2119.82 --> 2122.22] you're running an init system plus a web server, +[2122.38 --> 2123.64] which is a whole bunch of overhead +[2123.64 --> 2124.72] that you A, don't need, +[2125.10 --> 2127.06] and B, technically speaking, +[2127.20 --> 2128.84] is, like I said, a bit of an anti-pattern. +[2128.84 --> 2132.40] And so the other thing it gives you is some issues, +[2132.54 --> 2134.06] well not issues, it's not the right word, +[2134.14 --> 2137.66] but added complexity around passing hardware through. +[2137.80 --> 2139.44] So like QuickSync, for example, +[2139.52 --> 2141.38] which I think is what we talked about earlier in the show. +[2141.94 --> 2144.92] If you're running QuickSync in a Docker container, +[2145.10 --> 2148.66] it's a couple of lines to pass through the render device. +[2149.44 --> 2151.78] To QuickSync, running in Plex or whatever, +[2152.94 --> 2153.76] it's no big deal. +[2154.08 --> 2156.46] With LXC, there can be some compatibility issues. +[2156.80 --> 2157.62] It's a similar thing, +[2157.62 --> 2158.72] you've got to pass it through, +[2159.32 --> 2160.06] but there, +[2160.26 --> 2162.96] I can never remember if it has a distinct lock +[2162.96 --> 2166.82] on the GPU once you pass it through to an LXC or not, +[2166.86 --> 2168.72] so somebody in the chat could update in real time, +[2168.80 --> 2169.78] I'd appreciate it. +[2170.34 --> 2172.06] But then the other thing you've got to consider is, +[2172.16 --> 2173.80] if you want to run multiple services +[2173.80 --> 2176.04] in one isolated environment, +[2176.90 --> 2179.58] that's exactly what a VM has been designed to do. +[2180.22 --> 2183.42] The tooling around VMs is extremely mature at this point. +[2183.42 --> 2184.62] They're very, +[2184.78 --> 2185.72] very well understood. +[2186.88 --> 2188.60] And I don't know, +[2188.76 --> 2193.12] LXCs for me fall into this awkward middle ground +[2193.12 --> 2196.04] of not quite knowing who they're for. +[2196.54 --> 2198.20] It's not to say they're a bad technology, +[2198.20 --> 2201.86] because I think LXCs do have their place. +[2202.56 --> 2202.90] Just, +[2203.86 --> 2204.52] they just don't, +[2204.88 --> 2206.14] in my world personally, +[2206.58 --> 2206.88] you know? +[2207.60 --> 2207.78] Yeah, +[2207.86 --> 2208.00] well, +[2208.08 --> 2208.18] and, +[2208.24 --> 2208.66] you know, +[2208.70 --> 2210.18] I think they're also a little more popular +[2210.18 --> 2212.42] in the Ubuntu ecosystem as well, +[2212.52 --> 2214.80] which is probably just not as prevalent +[2214.80 --> 2216.00] in the North America area. +[2216.26 --> 2216.48] So, +[2216.62 --> 2218.20] I think there's that element as well. +[2218.56 --> 2219.58] I like what you're saying, +[2219.62 --> 2219.70] though, +[2219.70 --> 2220.22] about VMs, +[2220.22 --> 2222.00] just to step back a little bit there. +[2222.24 --> 2224.02] Your point about the VM +[2224.02 --> 2225.26] is sometimes the right tooling, +[2225.34 --> 2227.08] people shouldn't feel bad about it, +[2227.10 --> 2228.92] I think is underscored by the fact +[2228.92 --> 2231.14] that VM performance, +[2231.38 --> 2232.14] it's like, +[2232.30 --> 2234.44] it's not your grandpa's VM anymore. +[2234.44 --> 2235.86] On modern hardware, +[2236.06 --> 2237.76] with modern virtualization software, +[2238.16 --> 2240.06] VMs can be extremely performant, +[2240.14 --> 2241.90] way better than they were +[2241.90 --> 2242.74] when we were emulating +[2242.74 --> 2243.90] the entire hardware stack. +[2243.98 --> 2244.66] Because these days, +[2245.02 --> 2246.02] not only do we have +[2246.02 --> 2247.42] para-virtualized devices, +[2247.72 --> 2248.88] but there's also just been +[2248.88 --> 2250.00] a lot of plumbing in the kernel +[2250.00 --> 2252.62] to get virtual driver requests +[2252.62 --> 2253.54] to the physical hardware +[2253.54 --> 2254.60] so much faster than, +[2254.78 --> 2255.00] you know, +[2255.36 --> 2256.76] they were even four or five years ago. +[2257.04 --> 2257.30] Exactly. +[2257.44 --> 2257.62] I mean, +[2257.62 --> 2259.14] you think about all those cloud servers +[2259.14 --> 2261.46] that are running virtualized stacks, +[2261.78 --> 2264.06] a lot of that investment trickles down. +[2264.44 --> 2266.20] to us mere mortals, +[2266.32 --> 2266.48] you know, +[2266.54 --> 2267.32] a lot of those improvements +[2267.32 --> 2268.70] end up in the kernel +[2268.70 --> 2269.60] one way or another. +[2270.32 --> 2270.56] So yeah, +[2270.58 --> 2271.66] the other thing we didn't talk about +[2271.66 --> 2273.08] at all yet is Podman. +[2273.68 --> 2276.44] And I know being a Red Hatter, +[2276.54 --> 2278.28] I should probably be a bit more pro-Podman, +[2278.44 --> 2279.68] but for me, +[2279.74 --> 2282.72] the tooling's just still not quite there yet. +[2282.84 --> 2283.04] You know, +[2283.10 --> 2285.16] I rely on Compose all the time +[2285.16 --> 2287.56] for interacting with all of my services. +[2287.56 --> 2290.14] And I know Podman Compose exists +[2290.14 --> 2291.46] and I've tried it several times, +[2291.60 --> 2292.94] but it's still just, +[2293.16 --> 2293.94] it's not 100%. +[2293.94 --> 2294.78] It's not quite there. +[2295.22 --> 2295.34] Yeah. +[2295.54 --> 2297.84] It's like 90% or so, +[2297.94 --> 2298.86] but it's not 100%. +[2298.86 --> 2300.06] I have the same opinion. +[2300.46 --> 2302.72] I feel like Podman is a better design, +[2302.98 --> 2304.04] system architecturally. +[2304.26 --> 2305.34] It feels cleaner. +[2305.74 --> 2307.24] It feels more native as well. +[2307.56 --> 2308.02] But then again, +[2308.02 --> 2309.46] you have like monsters in our chat room +[2309.46 --> 2311.00] that are running Docker in LXE. +[2311.00 --> 2311.70] Oh my goodness. +[2312.18 --> 2312.34] Well, +[2312.36 --> 2314.92] you can run Docker in Docker in Docker in VM. +[2314.92 --> 2315.18] Right. +[2315.78 --> 2317.34] These are the people +[2317.34 --> 2318.72] that show up to our live stream jobs. +[2318.72 --> 2318.82] Yeah, +[2318.84 --> 2319.26] right. +[2320.70 --> 2321.92] So the tip of the iceberg. +[2323.86 --> 2324.22] Yeah, +[2324.24 --> 2324.74] there you go. +[2325.18 --> 2325.96] Very interesting. +[2326.04 --> 2326.66] I'd love also to hear +[2326.66 --> 2327.68] other people's opinions on it too. +[2327.74 --> 2329.58] So do feel free to go to the contact page +[2329.58 --> 2330.30] or send us a boost. +[2330.54 --> 2332.06] There was discussion going on on Reddit +[2332.06 --> 2333.80] that I wanted to just kind of touch on +[2333.80 --> 2335.56] because I have a lot of thoughts on this, +[2335.56 --> 2337.18] but I had something I think is actionable. +[2337.74 --> 2338.86] And the question is, +[2339.72 --> 2340.02] and Alex, +[2340.10 --> 2341.18] I liked this question a lot +[2341.18 --> 2342.60] because it's being honest with themselves. +[2343.02 --> 2343.64] And I think it's something +[2343.64 --> 2345.10] all of us self-hosters should think about. +[2345.92 --> 2347.20] How do I prepare for a time +[2347.20 --> 2349.36] when I'm just tired of tinkering with Home Assistant? +[2349.52 --> 2350.78] That's the question that was on Reddit. +[2351.12 --> 2351.72] And I love it +[2351.72 --> 2352.94] because it's like this guy writes, +[2353.16 --> 2355.28] I've used Home Assistant for the last six months +[2355.28 --> 2357.16] and I've had a blast tinkering with the platform. +[2357.46 --> 2358.64] I've got a hundred plus devices. +[2358.80 --> 2359.94] Everything is working as intended. +[2360.18 --> 2361.60] And I know from experience, +[2361.74 --> 2362.52] there'll come a time +[2362.52 --> 2364.50] when I just don't find home automation +[2364.50 --> 2365.60] as flattering anymore, +[2366.00 --> 2367.24] but I'll still need my lights +[2367.24 --> 2368.62] and whatnot to function properly. +[2369.10 --> 2371.06] So how do I prepare for this day? +[2372.18 --> 2373.80] This is really, +[2374.06 --> 2376.68] I need to take this advice in as well. +[2376.78 --> 2378.70] Now, I've always remained pretty fascinated. +[2379.28 --> 2380.26] Home Assistant moves quick. +[2380.36 --> 2381.30] The community moves quick. +[2381.46 --> 2382.62] It hasn't lost my attention, +[2383.40 --> 2384.78] but things have. +[2385.44 --> 2386.10] And, you know, +[2386.24 --> 2387.28] as geeks, +[2387.34 --> 2388.22] I think we're just kind of prone +[2388.22 --> 2389.72] to the new shiny sometimes as well. +[2390.58 --> 2392.10] Do you have any hot tips +[2392.10 --> 2394.04] on how to like prepare your infrastructure +[2394.04 --> 2395.46] for when you are bored with it? +[2395.56 --> 2396.86] Do you have anything off the top of your mind? +[2396.86 --> 2399.12] Don't get bored at the time +[2399.12 --> 2400.08] where it's broken. +[2402.16 --> 2403.10] I don't know. +[2403.18 --> 2404.42] It's such a hard question +[2404.42 --> 2406.48] because I'm aware +[2406.48 --> 2408.54] that the raindrop of inspiration +[2408.54 --> 2410.14] in the desert +[2410.14 --> 2412.18] of computer, +[2412.42 --> 2413.14] you know, +[2413.22 --> 2414.18] there's several things +[2414.18 --> 2415.28] have to line up +[2415.28 --> 2415.86] in order for me +[2415.86 --> 2416.74] to be interested enough +[2416.74 --> 2417.72] to tinker with something. +[2418.24 --> 2419.58] I have to have enough free time +[2419.58 --> 2420.60] in my mind +[2420.60 --> 2422.26] and I always underestimate +[2422.26 --> 2423.46] how long something's going to take. +[2423.92 --> 2425.66] So if I think it's going to take four hours, +[2425.74 --> 2426.94] I know I've got to estimate +[2426.94 --> 2428.38] I've got to have a whole day free. +[2429.06 --> 2430.36] And if it's quicker than that, +[2430.44 --> 2430.64] great. +[2430.76 --> 2430.96] I mean, +[2430.98 --> 2432.48] that's often not the case +[2432.48 --> 2433.04] with Home Assistant, +[2433.28 --> 2434.60] but sometimes it is. +[2435.22 --> 2436.38] Probably the best advice +[2436.38 --> 2437.04] I can give, +[2437.20 --> 2439.80] and it's not terribly wisdomful, +[2439.92 --> 2441.82] but it's just try and break down +[2441.82 --> 2444.16] the things you're trying to accomplish +[2444.16 --> 2446.20] into small tasks, +[2446.20 --> 2447.88] small batches of stuff. +[2448.46 --> 2449.60] Let's say you want to get +[2449.60 --> 2450.46] a specific room +[2450.46 --> 2451.72] behaving a certain way +[2451.72 --> 2452.42] or you want to get +[2452.42 --> 2453.44] just a couple of new lights +[2453.44 --> 2454.16] added or something. +[2455.38 --> 2456.32] And try not to leave +[2456.32 --> 2457.76] anything half finished +[2457.76 --> 2459.20] when you go to sleep +[2459.20 --> 2459.80] or something like that. +[2459.82 --> 2460.98] I know it's not always possible +[2460.98 --> 2462.82] because, you know, +[2462.84 --> 2463.62] I'll wake up tomorrow +[2463.62 --> 2464.36] and my interests +[2464.36 --> 2465.58] will be in cars tomorrow, +[2465.72 --> 2466.44] not Home Assistant +[2466.44 --> 2467.24] or what, you know, +[2467.30 --> 2467.78] how it is. +[2468.78 --> 2470.22] And for me, +[2470.30 --> 2471.56] leaving stuff half done +[2471.56 --> 2472.30] when I go to sleep +[2472.30 --> 2472.88] is the enemy +[2472.88 --> 2474.22] because, A, +[2474.26 --> 2475.54] I've loaded it into context, +[2475.54 --> 2477.22] like in my personal RAM buffer +[2477.22 --> 2477.62] or whatever, +[2478.20 --> 2479.64] and loading it back in again +[2479.64 --> 2481.00] is going to take a long time, +[2481.22 --> 2481.56] typically. +[2482.40 --> 2483.74] Sometimes going for a walk +[2483.74 --> 2484.50] or whatever, you know, +[2484.52 --> 2485.64] can be the solution. +[2486.36 --> 2486.90] We've also got to get +[2486.90 --> 2487.82] the motivation program +[2487.82 --> 2488.58] running again too. +[2488.66 --> 2489.84] So it's not just the context +[2489.84 --> 2490.42] and the data +[2490.42 --> 2491.04] and the state, +[2491.12 --> 2491.58] but it's also, +[2491.68 --> 2492.74] you've got to get motivated again. +[2492.96 --> 2494.72] Also, the caffeination station +[2494.72 --> 2495.98] has to be fired up too, +[2496.22 --> 2496.62] you know. +[2497.40 --> 2499.40] So, yeah, you know, +[2499.78 --> 2500.22] essentially, +[2500.58 --> 2501.84] just break things down +[2501.84 --> 2503.60] into atomic blocks, really. +[2503.60 --> 2504.96] Yeah, and complete it +[2504.96 --> 2505.84] one room at a time +[2505.84 --> 2506.88] and complete it +[2506.88 --> 2508.12] as much as you can. +[2508.82 --> 2509.18] That's a great, +[2509.24 --> 2510.00] and that's a great tip. +[2510.26 --> 2511.44] Yeah, and I find that helps +[2511.44 --> 2512.48] with motivation too +[2512.48 --> 2513.80] because if you actually think, +[2514.30 --> 2514.98] right, I've done that +[2514.98 --> 2516.96] and it works as intended, +[2517.44 --> 2518.96] next time, you know, +[2519.04 --> 2519.42] you'll be like, +[2519.48 --> 2520.04] oh, well, yeah, +[2520.06 --> 2520.96] I actually achieved +[2520.96 --> 2521.88] what I set out to do +[2521.88 --> 2523.60] and it can be a self-perpetuate, +[2524.28 --> 2525.42] self-fulfilling cycle +[2525.42 --> 2526.00] of improvement. +[2526.38 --> 2527.14] I think that's probably +[2527.14 --> 2528.66] how I should probably attack +[2528.66 --> 2529.36] like the rebuild +[2529.36 --> 2530.66] of the sensors +[2530.66 --> 2531.28] and all the switches +[2531.28 --> 2532.20] and stuff in jupes. +[2532.48 --> 2533.22] It's probably just +[2533.22 --> 2533.92] one room at a time +[2533.92 --> 2534.68] and it'll, you know, +[2534.82 --> 2535.48] it'll go quick. +[2535.80 --> 2537.48] Also, you are your own +[2537.48 --> 2538.08] worst enemy. +[2538.54 --> 2540.40] Write this down. +[2540.70 --> 2541.84] Document your crap +[2541.84 --> 2543.30] because you will forget. +[2543.44 --> 2544.24] You think you won't, +[2544.70 --> 2545.76] you think you remember it, +[2546.06 --> 2546.92] but trust me, +[2547.26 --> 2547.98] you won't. +[2548.40 --> 2549.28] You gotta write it down. +[2549.82 --> 2550.58] Absolutely agree. +[2550.84 --> 2551.42] Absolutely agree. +[2551.74 --> 2553.04] I have one bit of wisdom +[2553.04 --> 2553.90] from my whole, +[2554.02 --> 2554.68] my home assistant's +[2554.68 --> 2555.42] been unavailable +[2555.42 --> 2556.42] and this is what this guy +[2556.42 --> 2556.88] is worried about. +[2556.94 --> 2557.74] Like, it would crash +[2557.74 --> 2558.50] and he just wouldn't have +[2558.50 --> 2559.52] the motivation to fix it. +[2559.52 --> 2561.06] This is something +[2561.06 --> 2562.00] you can do in Z-Wave, +[2562.12 --> 2563.26] but I read how to do it +[2563.26 --> 2563.88] in Zigbee +[2563.88 --> 2565.18] and this seems like +[2565.18 --> 2566.22] the thing to do. +[2566.32 --> 2568.28] It's called device binding. +[2569.14 --> 2570.46] So you can bind +[2570.46 --> 2571.68] a light switch +[2571.68 --> 2573.06] to a particular light, +[2573.12 --> 2573.62] for example. +[2574.24 --> 2574.88] You can bind +[2574.88 --> 2576.18] two Zigbee devices together +[2576.18 --> 2577.06] so they can control +[2577.06 --> 2577.58] each other +[2577.58 --> 2579.34] without the central coordinator. +[2579.92 --> 2580.18] So they, +[2580.34 --> 2580.90] as long as they're both +[2580.90 --> 2581.40] on the network +[2581.40 --> 2582.16] and both devices +[2582.16 --> 2583.06] support binding, +[2583.66 --> 2585.36] you can have them +[2585.36 --> 2585.98] operate +[2585.98 --> 2587.66] without home assistant +[2587.66 --> 2588.28] even running. +[2588.28 --> 2589.66] And this is incredible +[2589.66 --> 2590.46] because it means like +[2590.46 --> 2591.36] all of like your switches +[2591.36 --> 2591.92] and buttons +[2591.92 --> 2593.56] and those types of things +[2593.56 --> 2594.72] continue to work +[2594.72 --> 2596.44] even if your server's crashed. +[2596.82 --> 2597.98] And so this is definitely +[2597.98 --> 2599.30] something I want to look into +[2599.30 --> 2600.72] for at least a few core devices, +[2600.88 --> 2602.30] like switches to turn lights +[2602.30 --> 2602.94] on and off. +[2603.62 --> 2604.78] Those always need to work. +[2604.98 --> 2606.44] And I don't really have +[2606.44 --> 2606.92] the flexibility +[2606.92 --> 2608.06] to like open it up +[2608.06 --> 2609.14] and like install a Shelby +[2609.14 --> 2609.50] in the, +[2609.84 --> 2610.64] or Shelly in the wall +[2610.64 --> 2612.30] because my walls +[2612.30 --> 2613.74] are like two inches thick. +[2615.02 --> 2615.62] They're thinner +[2615.62 --> 2616.44] than the Shelly is. +[2616.44 --> 2618.14] So I have to go +[2618.14 --> 2619.28] with the soft button route, +[2619.38 --> 2619.84] which means when +[2619.84 --> 2620.62] home assistant's down, +[2621.04 --> 2621.76] no light switches, +[2622.30 --> 2623.30] which is crazy. +[2623.58 --> 2624.52] Just absolutely crazy. +[2624.90 --> 2626.14] And so something like binding +[2626.14 --> 2627.60] would keep it working +[2627.60 --> 2628.90] and give you the time +[2628.90 --> 2629.94] to continue to operate +[2629.94 --> 2630.56] your stuff +[2630.56 --> 2633.30] without having to actually +[2633.30 --> 2634.14] get the server up and running. +[2634.20 --> 2635.10] And they have groups +[2635.10 --> 2636.80] and all kinds of stuff. +[2636.98 --> 2638.06] And I've read that people +[2638.06 --> 2638.98] also get this working +[2638.98 --> 2640.06] with their Philips Hue's +[2640.06 --> 2640.92] so you can use binding +[2640.92 --> 2642.04] with the Hue's lights as well. +[2642.72 --> 2643.22] I'll have a link +[2643.22 --> 2643.74] in the show notes +[2643.74 --> 2644.78] for more information +[2644.78 --> 2645.84] about binding. +[2645.84 --> 2645.90] Right. +[2646.20 --> 2647.28] Adopt technologies +[2647.28 --> 2648.76] that you own +[2648.76 --> 2650.54] the firmware of. +[2650.94 --> 2651.12] You know, +[2651.22 --> 2652.76] Tasmotor is a great example. +[2653.78 --> 2654.80] Don't rely on a +[2654.80 --> 2656.06] cloud-based service. +[2656.20 --> 2656.36] You know, +[2656.40 --> 2657.40] buy the right hardware, +[2657.56 --> 2658.32] all that kind of stuff. +[2658.46 --> 2659.94] Try and buy +[2659.94 --> 2660.96] with the idea +[2660.96 --> 2662.00] that you want it +[2662.00 --> 2662.78] to just keep working +[2662.78 --> 2663.50] until the hardware +[2663.50 --> 2665.22] physically stops working +[2665.22 --> 2666.56] would be a great idea. +[2666.92 --> 2668.40] I like the chatroom. +[2668.78 --> 2669.64] Serverless IoT. +[2670.34 --> 2670.78] Nice. +[2671.02 --> 2671.62] It is kind of, +[2671.68 --> 2671.90] isn't it? +[2671.90 --> 2672.38] You're right, Aaron. +[2672.90 --> 2673.56] That's pretty cool. +[2674.12 --> 2674.96] We got some boosts +[2674.96 --> 2675.50] into the show. +[2675.66 --> 2676.40] Check out this. +[2676.92 --> 2677.36] Irrero? +[2678.56 --> 2678.92] Irrero? +[2679.26 --> 2680.30] I'm so sorry, dude. +[2680.92 --> 2681.24] Irrero. +[2682.92 --> 2684.88] 135,000 sats +[2684.88 --> 2685.88] was sent into the show +[2685.88 --> 2686.30] this week. +[2686.40 --> 2687.34] Holy moly. +[2687.42 --> 2687.86] I know. +[2688.06 --> 2688.34] In fact, +[2688.34 --> 2689.14] I'm going to buy a boat. +[2689.58 --> 2690.64] That put us on the hot list. +[2690.82 --> 2691.36] So in Fountain, +[2691.76 --> 2692.40] you know, +[2692.46 --> 2693.18] highly boosted shows, +[2693.22 --> 2694.10] I believe it was this boost, +[2694.22 --> 2695.36] put self-hosted +[2695.36 --> 2696.54] on the hot list +[2696.54 --> 2697.72] and new people find the show. +[2697.82 --> 2698.30] So when you send +[2698.30 --> 2699.10] a big boost in, +[2699.88 --> 2701.42] the show trends +[2701.42 --> 2702.88] and the people discover us. +[2703.16 --> 2703.76] It's really great. +[2704.14 --> 2705.92] So Irrero writes, +[2706.36 --> 2707.70] Irrero writes, +[2707.88 --> 2709.30] it's not a million dollars, +[2709.38 --> 2710.20] but these are all +[2710.20 --> 2711.10] the sats I have. +[2711.52 --> 2712.58] I'm currently thinking +[2712.58 --> 2713.18] of automating +[2713.18 --> 2714.40] the lighting around my flat +[2714.40 --> 2715.44] and I'm unable to pick +[2715.44 --> 2716.48] between smart lights +[2716.48 --> 2717.72] or smart switches. +[2718.32 --> 2719.12] What are the pros +[2719.12 --> 2720.48] and cons of each one? +[2720.88 --> 2722.24] Thanks, Alex, Chris and Brent. +[2722.96 --> 2724.48] Fairly easy answer, actually. +[2724.86 --> 2726.84] Switches mean that your bulbs +[2726.84 --> 2728.08] stay powered all the time +[2728.08 --> 2728.72] and you can, +[2729.12 --> 2731.10] so you can control the switch +[2731.10 --> 2733.42] that you retain physical control +[2733.42 --> 2734.00] of the switch +[2734.00 --> 2736.64] and you also gain +[2736.64 --> 2738.88] the ability to control +[2738.88 --> 2740.56] that switch remotely as well. +[2740.82 --> 2741.92] Whereas if you just go +[2741.92 --> 2742.76] for a smart bulb +[2742.76 --> 2743.78] and someone turns +[2743.78 --> 2744.66] the light switch off, +[2745.14 --> 2745.44] uh-oh, +[2745.44 --> 2746.78] you're out of luck. +[2747.04 --> 2748.68] Yeah, and it's also +[2748.68 --> 2749.86] just way more approachable +[2749.86 --> 2751.02] by every other single human +[2751.02 --> 2751.94] on the face of the planet. +[2752.48 --> 2753.44] And so if you have anybody else +[2753.44 --> 2753.84] that's going to be +[2753.84 --> 2754.76] in the space with you, +[2755.90 --> 2757.50] what I literally have +[2757.50 --> 2758.08] on my switches +[2758.08 --> 2758.84] here in the studio, +[2759.04 --> 2760.44] I have tape over them +[2760.44 --> 2760.86] that says, +[2760.92 --> 2761.96] no touch, +[2762.22 --> 2762.66] because, +[2763.30 --> 2763.86] like, +[2764.18 --> 2765.22] people just flip light switches +[2765.22 --> 2765.70] all the time. +[2765.76 --> 2766.44] And it still happens +[2766.44 --> 2767.76] when we have a meetup +[2767.76 --> 2768.56] here at the studio, +[2768.76 --> 2769.40] inevitably, +[2770.12 --> 2770.68] like a listener +[2770.68 --> 2771.42] will just walk out +[2771.42 --> 2771.82] of the studio +[2771.82 --> 2773.24] and they'll just instinctively +[2773.24 --> 2774.22] flip the light switch off. +[2774.22 --> 2774.84] You know, +[2774.92 --> 2775.60] they'll even flip it +[2775.60 --> 2776.10] right through the tape. +[2776.54 --> 2777.88] Read the FM, huh? +[2778.84 --> 2779.20] What? +[2779.44 --> 2779.98] What is it? +[2780.56 --> 2780.92] RTFM. +[2781.42 --> 2781.64] Oh. +[2781.98 --> 2783.26] Even if it's just a bit of tape +[2783.26 --> 2784.02] on the light switch, +[2784.10 --> 2784.24] you know, +[2784.26 --> 2785.00] you've got an RTFM. +[2785.14 --> 2785.96] Yeah, that's true. +[2786.38 --> 2786.98] Read the tape. +[2787.72 --> 2789.14] Prozac boosted with 1200 sats. +[2789.22 --> 2789.90] Just thanking Alex +[2789.90 --> 2791.28] for sharing your secret sauce. +[2791.84 --> 2792.38] And so I thought, +[2792.48 --> 2793.38] just in case people missed it +[2793.38 --> 2794.12] last episode, +[2794.22 --> 2794.84] we should probably +[2794.84 --> 2796.26] put the Badger stack link +[2796.26 --> 2797.86] in the show notes +[2797.86 --> 2798.52] for an overview +[2798.52 --> 2799.64] of Alex's setup. +[2800.04 --> 2800.92] People have been liking that. +[2800.92 --> 2804.18] PA or PageDot boosted in +[2804.18 --> 2806.76] with 3,333 sats. +[2807.08 --> 2807.22] He says, +[2807.60 --> 2807.78] Hi, +[2807.94 --> 2808.60] please take a look +[2808.60 --> 2809.86] at the Funk Whale project. +[2810.06 --> 2811.52] It's a federated music service +[2811.52 --> 2812.42] with a great GUI, +[2812.72 --> 2813.44] active development, +[2813.80 --> 2814.80] a subsonic API, +[2815.42 --> 2815.90] mobile app, +[2816.22 --> 2817.30] and financial support. +[2817.70 --> 2818.88] I use it without the federation +[2818.88 --> 2820.06] for my personal library, +[2820.18 --> 2820.90] but I really like it +[2820.90 --> 2822.18] because they really managed +[2822.18 --> 2823.40] to keep me up to date +[2823.40 --> 2824.78] and involve the community +[2824.78 --> 2825.44] in their decisions +[2825.44 --> 2827.24] I just wanted to share. +[2827.24 --> 2829.22] So I went and looked at it +[2829.22 --> 2830.74] super quick +[2830.74 --> 2832.06] and I'm going to put this +[2832.06 --> 2832.74] on my checkout. +[2832.96 --> 2833.82] This and Jellyfin, +[2833.96 --> 2834.38] which I realize +[2834.38 --> 2835.20] are not quite the same, +[2835.70 --> 2836.74] but Jellyfin's, +[2836.78 --> 2837.80] the Jellyamp app +[2837.80 --> 2838.68] that people are working on +[2838.68 --> 2840.20] and this Funk Whale, +[2840.34 --> 2841.42] I think could be great solutions +[2841.42 --> 2842.72] for my music use +[2842.72 --> 2843.50] because I'm not so much +[2843.50 --> 2845.04] looking for a whole home sync +[2845.04 --> 2847.20] so much as I am just +[2847.20 --> 2847.86] looking for something +[2847.86 --> 2848.76] that could expose +[2848.76 --> 2849.96] a local music collection +[2849.96 --> 2850.56] to me in a way +[2850.56 --> 2851.34] that I could consume +[2851.34 --> 2852.74] when I want to listen +[2852.74 --> 2853.50] mostly in the car +[2853.50 --> 2855.52] or on HomePods. +[2855.90 --> 2856.76] Funk Whale's really nice. +[2856.76 --> 2858.20] Funk Whale.audio. +[2858.56 --> 2859.36] Are you familiar with it, Alex? +[2859.70 --> 2861.30] I tried it out once +[2861.30 --> 2862.28] a few months ago +[2862.28 --> 2863.66] and then just for some reason +[2863.66 --> 2864.30] it didn't stick. +[2864.54 --> 2865.30] Can't remember why. +[2865.84 --> 2866.48] If I might interrupt +[2866.48 --> 2867.40] the boosts for a second, +[2867.50 --> 2868.74] we're having a live question +[2868.74 --> 2869.94] in the chat room. +[2870.02 --> 2870.48] Breaking news. +[2870.50 --> 2871.96] What is the boost address? +[2872.12 --> 2872.42] We've got +[2872.42 --> 2873.66] jupiterbroadcasting.com +[2873.66 --> 2874.40] slash boost, +[2874.54 --> 2875.16] but then what? +[2875.42 --> 2875.90] Pew, pew, pew! +[2876.52 --> 2877.84] So you need a new podcast app +[2877.84 --> 2879.68] because it's an RSS feed-based thing. +[2879.92 --> 2880.86] So it's in the, +[2880.86 --> 2882.34] the boost address +[2882.34 --> 2883.60] is in the RSS feed. +[2883.68 --> 2884.74] So you get a new podcast app +[2884.74 --> 2886.62] and that reads +[2886.62 --> 2887.74] that RSS tag +[2887.74 --> 2889.32] and then automatically +[2889.32 --> 2889.98] adds a button +[2889.98 --> 2890.92] to your playback screen. +[2891.12 --> 2891.80] There's also +[2891.80 --> 2892.92] a browser extension +[2892.92 --> 2893.44] which I was actually +[2893.44 --> 2894.20] going to suggest to you +[2894.20 --> 2895.08] after the show, Alex, +[2895.44 --> 2897.04] called Alby, A-L-B-Y. +[2897.68 --> 2898.82] And that lets you do it +[2898.82 --> 2899.96] in a browser-based environment. +[2900.54 --> 2901.14] And the reason +[2901.14 --> 2901.98] I was going to mention it to you +[2901.98 --> 2902.54] is they've launched +[2902.54 --> 2903.22] a new platform +[2903.22 --> 2904.04] called Saturn. +[2904.04 --> 2904.24] Saturn. +[2905.56 --> 2907.52] And I think it's like, +[2907.98 --> 2909.32] I don't know for sure, actually. +[2909.40 --> 2910.14] I have to look at it, +[2910.14 --> 2911.04] but I think it's, +[2911.04 --> 2911.46] it's kind of like +[2911.46 --> 2912.24] having your own node +[2912.24 --> 2913.50] and then you could get +[2913.50 --> 2914.78] a copy of the messages +[2914.78 --> 2916.84] and a split of the sats +[2916.84 --> 2918.26] with Saturn, I think. +[2918.80 --> 2919.26] And then I don't think +[2919.26 --> 2919.70] you have to set up +[2919.70 --> 2920.22] a whole node, +[2920.32 --> 2922.04] but Alby is an open source project +[2922.04 --> 2924.04] for a Lightning wallet +[2924.04 --> 2925.42] in the browser. +[2926.02 --> 2927.24] I don't generally like it +[2927.24 --> 2927.92] because, you know, +[2927.96 --> 2928.44] I don't like stuff +[2928.44 --> 2929.22] built into the browser, +[2929.36 --> 2930.38] but I had a chance +[2930.38 --> 2931.52] to talk to the co-founder +[2931.52 --> 2932.30] and, you know, +[2932.38 --> 2933.24] ask him my questions +[2933.24 --> 2933.86] about security +[2933.86 --> 2935.22] and open source practices +[2935.22 --> 2936.48] and actually walked away +[2936.48 --> 2937.60] with a pretty good opinion +[2937.60 --> 2938.52] of where they're at. +[2938.56 --> 2939.74] So ALBY for that. +[2940.14 --> 2940.94] Then you could just, +[2941.00 --> 2942.36] you could boost +[2942.36 --> 2943.52] from the website +[2943.52 --> 2944.80] using our new player +[2944.80 --> 2945.32] on the website. +[2945.74 --> 2945.92] Otherwise, +[2946.04 --> 2947.26] it requires a new podcast app +[2947.26 --> 2949.06] at newpodcastapps.com. +[2949.22 --> 2950.26] And then one day, +[2950.78 --> 2951.24] soon, +[2952.34 --> 2953.38] one day, Alex, +[2953.42 --> 2954.12] I have a dream, +[2954.60 --> 2955.42] Jupyter Broadcasting +[2955.42 --> 2956.26] will be generating +[2956.26 --> 2957.80] all of our own RSS feeds +[2957.80 --> 2958.62] independently. +[2958.92 --> 2960.10] We use a service provider +[2960.10 --> 2961.16] called Fireside right now. +[2961.16 --> 2962.32] It's very common practice +[2962.32 --> 2963.54] to have a service +[2963.54 --> 2964.58] generate your RSS feeds +[2964.58 --> 2965.88] or like a WordPress plugin +[2965.88 --> 2966.36] or something +[2966.36 --> 2967.50] because you never want them +[2967.50 --> 2968.04] to screw up. +[2968.54 --> 2969.84] So like people have just +[2969.84 --> 2971.00] like specialized in that +[2971.00 --> 2971.48] because it's like +[2971.48 --> 2972.28] your radio signal. +[2972.64 --> 2973.50] But right now, +[2973.52 --> 2974.08] we don't generate +[2974.08 --> 2974.98] our own RSS feed, +[2975.38 --> 2976.20] but we want to. +[2976.46 --> 2976.98] And then we'll start +[2976.98 --> 2977.48] taking advantage +[2977.48 --> 2978.46] of even more podcasting +[2978.46 --> 2979.16] 2.0 features +[2979.16 --> 2981.04] like transcripts +[2981.04 --> 2982.70] and host information +[2982.70 --> 2983.16] in there, +[2983.24 --> 2983.58] like, you know, +[2983.64 --> 2983.90] guest, +[2984.04 --> 2984.88] more guest information, +[2985.08 --> 2985.74] richer context +[2985.74 --> 2986.60] around that kind of stuff. +[2986.68 --> 2987.44] And a big one +[2987.44 --> 2988.60] that I'm really looking forward to, +[2988.66 --> 2988.92] I don't know +[2988.92 --> 2989.44] what we'll use it +[2989.44 --> 2990.18] for exactly yet, +[2990.18 --> 2992.02] alternative enclosures. +[2992.56 --> 2993.24] So like maybe +[2993.24 --> 2994.34] like an MP4 file +[2994.34 --> 2995.88] or an Opus file +[2995.88 --> 2996.30] if people want +[2996.30 --> 2997.16] an Opus version +[2997.16 --> 2998.16] or I don't know, +[2998.54 --> 2998.94] but it's, +[2999.14 --> 3000.44] so your podcast player +[3000.44 --> 3000.76] will just, +[3000.96 --> 3001.92] it'll see the entry +[3001.92 --> 3003.12] and then in the player, +[3003.16 --> 3003.72] you'll just choose +[3003.72 --> 3004.76] like which format you want +[3004.76 --> 3005.46] because we can just +[3005.46 --> 3006.90] specify multiple formats +[3006.90 --> 3008.36] in one RSS feed entry +[3008.36 --> 3009.28] with podcasting 2.0. +[3009.28 --> 3010.34] In the past, +[3010.60 --> 3011.20] and you've probably seen +[3011.20 --> 3012.50] JB has like +[3012.50 --> 3014.76] so many different RSS feeds +[3014.76 --> 3016.14] because any variation +[3016.14 --> 3016.74] of file type, +[3016.84 --> 3017.22] you had to do +[3017.22 --> 3018.34] a whole new RSS feed +[3018.34 --> 3019.22] because that's just +[3019.22 --> 3019.76] how these players +[3019.76 --> 3020.44] worked back then. +[3020.62 --> 3021.66] So it's a whole +[3021.66 --> 3023.18] new generation over there. +[3023.54 --> 3024.58] Very excited about it. +[3024.60 --> 3025.10] I think it's going to be +[3025.10 --> 3026.10] big for podcasting +[3026.10 --> 3027.40] and I think it's the way +[3027.40 --> 3028.32] to keep podcasting +[3028.32 --> 3028.88] decentralized +[3028.88 --> 3029.86] and self-hosted +[3029.86 --> 3031.16] because the other +[3031.16 --> 3032.04] big trend +[3032.04 --> 3033.28] in the podcasting industry +[3033.28 --> 3034.24] is consolidation +[3034.24 --> 3034.90] with Spotify +[3034.90 --> 3036.44] and players like that +[3036.44 --> 3037.14] and then they do +[3037.14 --> 3038.30] dynamic ad insertion, +[3038.30 --> 3039.18] they do the hosting, +[3039.30 --> 3040.56] they manage your RSS feed +[3040.56 --> 3041.98] and the podcaster +[3041.98 --> 3042.82] doesn't have any control +[3042.82 --> 3043.22] over it +[3043.22 --> 3044.46] and I think decentralization +[3044.46 --> 3045.24] is key +[3045.24 --> 3046.62] to keeping podcasting healthy +[3046.62 --> 3048.60] and I think self-hosting +[3048.60 --> 3049.38] plays a big role in that. +[3050.02 --> 3050.84] Fun Deck Hermit +[3050.84 --> 3051.80] boosted in with +[3051.80 --> 3053.40] 2,346 sats. +[3053.76 --> 3054.44] Hey guys, +[3054.70 --> 3055.54] I wanted to mention +[3055.54 --> 3057.02] an amazing newish feature +[3057.02 --> 3057.90] of R-Clone. +[3058.38 --> 3059.22] You can now use +[3059.22 --> 3060.30] a Docker plugin +[3060.30 --> 3061.28] to mount the local +[3061.28 --> 3062.00] or cloud storage +[3062.00 --> 3063.48] directly as a Docker volume. +[3064.60 --> 3065.46] That's great for +[3065.46 --> 3066.10] host isolation +[3066.10 --> 3066.70] and separation. +[3067.02 --> 3068.14] That is +[3068.14 --> 3069.40] great. +[3070.40 --> 3071.36] R-Clone for the win. +[3071.98 --> 3072.26] Yeah, +[3072.40 --> 3073.74] so I guess you could use +[3073.74 --> 3074.46] you know, +[3074.52 --> 3075.64] like Google Drive +[3075.64 --> 3077.06] as a Docker volume. +[3077.64 --> 3078.34] I wonder what the latency +[3078.34 --> 3078.74] is like, +[3078.82 --> 3079.56] but that sounds amazing. +[3080.12 --> 3080.36] I mean, +[3080.38 --> 3081.06] if you're just writing +[3081.06 --> 3082.42] like an encrypted +[3082.42 --> 3083.46] tar file or something. +[3083.80 --> 3084.06] Yeah, +[3084.18 --> 3084.74] for something like +[3084.74 --> 3086.22] my smoke ping +[3086.22 --> 3087.42] you know, +[3087.52 --> 3088.28] history or something +[3088.28 --> 3088.72] like that, +[3088.76 --> 3089.48] that might be nice. +[3090.38 --> 3091.44] That I would like +[3091.44 --> 3092.50] to keep around, +[3092.66 --> 3093.72] but I don't really care +[3093.72 --> 3095.50] that much about it. +[3095.94 --> 3096.18] Maybe. +[3096.40 --> 3097.12] I'll investigate. +[3097.26 --> 3097.86] That sounds pretty cool. +[3097.94 --> 3098.10] Thanks, +[3098.18 --> 3098.70] FunDeckHermit. +[3098.96 --> 3099.90] Last couple boosts +[3099.90 --> 3100.40] for this week, +[3100.44 --> 3101.10] although we did read +[3101.10 --> 3101.56] all of them. +[3101.78 --> 3102.44] We only feature +[3102.44 --> 3103.50] some of them in the show. +[3103.62 --> 3104.36] Soltros boosted +[3104.36 --> 3105.44] with 9,000 sats. +[3105.56 --> 3107.10] I recently got into Docker +[3107.10 --> 3108.70] after refusing to let go +[3108.70 --> 3109.70] of my VM obsession. +[3110.12 --> 3110.48] Welcome. +[3110.48 --> 3113.14] Are there any tips out there +[3113.14 --> 3114.00] for use case scenarios +[3114.00 --> 3114.68] or cool project +[3114.68 --> 3115.80] I can run at my home +[3115.80 --> 3117.50] on my Ubuntu home server? +[3117.62 --> 3117.90] Right now, +[3117.94 --> 3118.62] I have Nextcloud, +[3118.98 --> 3119.26] Plex, +[3119.50 --> 3120.60] and a few other odds +[3120.60 --> 3121.54] and ends. +[3122.04 --> 3122.40] Well, +[3122.66 --> 3123.12] over at +[3123.12 --> 3124.62] perfectmediaserver.com, +[3124.70 --> 3125.38] I have a list +[3125.38 --> 3126.82] of my top 10 +[3126.82 --> 3128.08] recommended apps +[3128.08 --> 3128.64] to run +[3128.64 --> 3129.52] on your new +[3129.52 --> 3130.40] media server. +[3130.62 --> 3130.82] So, +[3131.24 --> 3131.74] I'll put a link +[3131.74 --> 3132.72] to that in the show notes. +[3133.14 --> 3134.00] And if you have +[3134.00 --> 3134.86] any other recommendations, +[3135.18 --> 3135.58] let us know +[3135.58 --> 3136.54] at selfhosted.show +[3136.54 --> 3137.26] slash contact. +[3137.60 --> 3138.14] Look at that. +[3138.36 --> 3138.74] And, you know, +[3138.74 --> 3139.28] just keep listening +[3139.28 --> 3139.74] to the show +[3139.74 --> 3140.94] because as you listen, +[3141.12 --> 3142.14] you'll hear us mention +[3142.14 --> 3143.18] our favorite apps +[3143.18 --> 3143.70] over and over again. +[3143.80 --> 3144.10] Like, +[3144.24 --> 3145.06] Alex just name dropped +[3145.06 --> 3145.54] Smokeping. +[3146.00 --> 3146.86] That's a great one. +[3146.96 --> 3147.52] It's a classic. +[3148.10 --> 3148.24] You know, +[3148.26 --> 3148.64] it's funny. +[3149.06 --> 3149.96] I got Smokeping +[3149.96 --> 3151.02] from Linux Action Show +[3151.02 --> 3151.58] back in the day +[3151.58 --> 3152.84] way before you knew me. +[3153.30 --> 3154.28] And then I wrapped it up +[3154.28 --> 3155.20] as a Docker container +[3155.20 --> 3156.56] on Linux server.io +[3156.56 --> 3157.06] and then +[3157.06 --> 3157.96] now it's a thing. +[3158.56 --> 3158.84] I know. +[3158.88 --> 3159.82] And then I grabbed it one day +[3159.82 --> 3160.06] and I'm like, +[3160.10 --> 3160.22] hey, +[3160.32 --> 3161.40] it pings Jupyter Broadcasting. +[3161.46 --> 3161.90] That's awesome. +[3162.04 --> 3162.20] Yeah, +[3162.20 --> 3162.72] that's why. +[3162.88 --> 3163.96] That's why it pings JB. +[3163.96 --> 3165.42] I put you in there, bro. +[3166.14 --> 3166.70] And it really is +[3166.70 --> 3167.44] a great example +[3167.44 --> 3168.08] of like an app +[3168.08 --> 3168.98] that probably should be +[3168.98 --> 3169.54] in a container +[3169.54 --> 3170.28] because it's kind of +[3170.28 --> 3171.06] super old +[3171.06 --> 3171.70] and legacy +[3171.70 --> 3172.68] in a lot of ways +[3172.68 --> 3173.40] and you don't want it +[3173.40 --> 3174.12] on your whole system. +[3174.68 --> 3175.62] Our last boost +[3175.62 --> 3176.24] of the episode +[3176.24 --> 3177.44] came in from Bronzewing +[3177.44 --> 3179.64] who boosted 9,001 sets +[3179.64 --> 3180.90] over 9,000. +[3181.36 --> 3182.38] There's another option +[3182.38 --> 3183.86] called Mood. +[3184.22 --> 3185.64] M-O-O-D-E. +[3185.90 --> 3186.54] Moodie, perhaps? +[3186.74 --> 3187.88] That runs on a Pi +[3187.88 --> 3188.72] and says it can do +[3188.72 --> 3189.80] multi-room audio. +[3190.36 --> 3191.56] And we have a link +[3191.56 --> 3191.96] in there to +[3191.96 --> 3192.98] moodaudio.org. +[3192.98 --> 3193.74] It's free +[3193.74 --> 3194.54] and you can get +[3194.54 --> 3195.92] a Hi-Fi Berry amp +[3195.92 --> 3196.60] and put speakers +[3196.60 --> 3197.38] on that in each room +[3197.38 --> 3198.18] controlled by a web +[3198.18 --> 3198.54] interface +[3198.54 --> 3200.02] and that interface +[3200.02 --> 3200.68] is mobile friendly. +[3201.14 --> 3201.86] I hear it's actually +[3201.86 --> 3202.96] better than Volumio. +[3203.38 --> 3204.26] It could be the +[3204.26 --> 3205.02] complete solution +[3205.02 --> 3206.24] worth checking out. +[3206.42 --> 3207.22] It does look nice. +[3207.52 --> 3208.62] Yeah, I think when my +[3208.62 --> 3210.00] Rune free trial expires, +[3210.08 --> 3210.70] which I think I've got +[3210.70 --> 3211.70] another week left on, +[3212.34 --> 3213.18] I think I'll probably +[3213.18 --> 3213.92] have to give Volumio +[3213.92 --> 3214.78] a spin next +[3214.78 --> 3216.10] and then move on +[3216.10 --> 3217.34] to this mood thing +[3217.34 --> 3218.60] after that. +[3218.70 --> 3220.14] But I'll be honest +[3220.14 --> 3220.72] with you people, +[3220.72 --> 3221.56] I'm getting a little +[3221.56 --> 3222.56] fatigued with the music +[3222.56 --> 3223.12] situation +[3223.12 --> 3224.26] and I'll probably +[3224.26 --> 3225.28] just go back to Spotify +[3225.28 --> 3226.24] for a few months +[3226.24 --> 3227.08] whilst I just +[3227.08 --> 3228.06] calm down again. +[3228.66 --> 3229.06] I'm just going to +[3229.06 --> 3229.84] ship you like six +[3229.84 --> 3230.28] HomePods +[3230.28 --> 3231.46] and you'll be good. +[3231.78 --> 3232.10] Yeah. +[3232.68 --> 3233.42] I know it's not +[3233.42 --> 3233.80] what you want. +[3233.90 --> 3234.10] I know. +[3234.28 --> 3234.58] I know. +[3235.02 --> 3235.74] I also want to say +[3235.74 --> 3236.62] thank you to John A +[3236.62 --> 3238.20] who sent 2000 sats. +[3238.34 --> 3238.62] He's going to be +[3238.62 --> 3239.40] switching to Podverse. +[3239.68 --> 3240.52] That is one of those +[3240.52 --> 3241.32] new podcast apps +[3241.32 --> 3242.44] that is totally GPL +[3242.44 --> 3244.04] web, Android, iOS +[3244.04 --> 3245.60] and it's an F-Droid +[3245.60 --> 3246.84] and I really appreciated +[3246.84 --> 3247.38] that when I switched +[3247.38 --> 3247.88] to Graphene. +[3248.42 --> 3249.34] And then Schmitzfeld, +[3249.74 --> 3250.16] who Brent +[3250.16 --> 3251.44] appropriately +[3251.44 --> 3252.48] pronounces, +[3253.14 --> 3253.80] mentioned that +[3253.80 --> 3254.46] it was recently +[3254.46 --> 3255.26] his first boost +[3255.26 --> 3255.94] ever that he sent +[3255.94 --> 3256.56] into the show +[3256.56 --> 3257.92] and he also +[3257.92 --> 3258.90] is a big fan +[3258.90 --> 3259.50] of replacing +[3259.50 --> 3260.32] the Raspberry Pi +[3260.32 --> 3261.00] with a small +[3261.00 --> 3261.80] low power PC. +[3262.00 --> 3263.04] He's had great results +[3263.04 --> 3263.44] he says. +[3263.58 --> 3264.92] So I will let you guys +[3264.92 --> 3265.40] know how the +[3265.40 --> 3267.66] O-Droid H3 Plus +[3267.66 --> 3268.36] works out. +[3268.62 --> 3269.74] I'm super excited +[3269.74 --> 3270.18] about that +[3270.18 --> 3271.18] and then that old +[3271.18 --> 3272.72] Powerwall +[3272.72 --> 3273.96] or Solarwall +[3273.96 --> 3274.64] device, +[3274.96 --> 3275.82] I have a couple +[3275.82 --> 3276.28] of ideas +[3276.28 --> 3277.10] and I think I have +[3277.10 --> 3277.40] a couple +[3277.40 --> 3278.80] outside the box +[3278.80 --> 3279.42] places where I could +[3279.42 --> 3279.84] mount that +[3279.84 --> 3280.44] because it is so +[3280.44 --> 3281.16] rugged too. +[3281.72 --> 3282.24] All projects +[3282.24 --> 3283.08] for future episodes. +[3283.22 --> 3283.84] That H3 +[3283.84 --> 3284.42] is the type +[3284.42 --> 3284.84] of device +[3284.84 --> 3285.36] that I'm trying +[3285.36 --> 3285.82] to think +[3285.82 --> 3286.44] of a project +[3286.44 --> 3287.08] for that I +[3287.08 --> 3287.50] don't already +[3287.50 --> 3288.14] have a solution +[3288.14 --> 3288.44] for. +[3288.54 --> 3289.02] Like I want +[3289.02 --> 3289.66] to buy one. +[3289.76 --> 3290.94] I just don't know +[3290.94 --> 3291.28] why, +[3291.42 --> 3292.04] what I'd use it +[3292.04 --> 3292.26] for. +[3292.44 --> 3293.24] I want one though. +[3293.60 --> 3293.94] I mean maybe +[3293.94 --> 3294.46] you'll get lucky +[3294.46 --> 3294.90] and your server +[3294.90 --> 3295.26] will die. +[3297.88 --> 3299.24] Oh we can hope. +[3299.64 --> 3300.48] Hopefully not dude, +[3300.54 --> 3301.22] hopefully not. +[3301.50 --> 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+[3323.86 --> 3324.44] And as you know +[3324.44 --> 3325.52] selfhosted.show +[3325.52 --> 3326.66] slash contact is +[3326.66 --> 3327.38] the place to go to +[3327.38 --> 3327.96] get in touch with +[3327.96 --> 3328.14] us. +[3328.54 --> 3329.20] You can find me +[3329.20 --> 3329.80] over on Twitter +[3329.80 --> 3330.88] at ironicbadger. +[3331.30 --> 3332.40] Oh do we want to +[3332.40 --> 3333.64] tease all things open +[3333.64 --> 3333.98] at all? +[3334.14 --> 3334.96] Any updates there? +[3335.24 --> 3335.86] Oh yeah we could +[3335.86 --> 3336.06] do. +[3336.18 --> 3336.84] Coming up around +[3336.84 --> 3337.80] Halloween all things +[3337.80 --> 3338.96] open in Raleigh if +[3338.96 --> 3339.60] you're going to be in +[3339.60 --> 3339.90] town. +[3340.06 --> 3340.90] Keep an eye on the +[3340.90 --> 3341.70] meetup page. +[3342.40 --> 3343.02] I don't know if we +[3343.02 --> 3343.46] do the official +[3343.46 --> 3344.34] Jupiter Broadcasting +[3344.34 --> 3345.20] meetup or just the +[3345.20 --> 3345.80] Raleigh room. +[3345.90 --> 3346.40] Probably just the +[3346.40 --> 3346.98] Raleigh room on +[3346.98 --> 3347.30] Matrix. +[3347.90 --> 3348.24] Could do. +[3348.44 --> 3348.78] Either way. +[3349.56 --> 3350.92] Myself and Cheese +[3350.92 --> 3351.84] Bacon, long time +[3351.84 --> 3352.40] friend of the +[3352.40 --> 3353.24] network, will be +[3353.24 --> 3353.58] there. +[3353.98 --> 3355.14] He's supporting a +[3355.14 --> 3355.90] booth for System +[3355.90 --> 3357.08] 76 at the +[3357.08 --> 3357.44] conference. +[3358.20 --> 3359.08] So I'll be at the +[3359.08 --> 3360.22] conference too and +[3360.22 --> 3361.24] we might go out for +[3361.24 --> 3362.46] a drinky poo in the +[3362.46 --> 3363.44] evening after one of +[3363.44 --> 3364.10] the talks. +[3364.38 --> 3364.62] We'll see. +[3365.28 --> 3365.82] Now I want to go. +[3365.92 --> 3366.66] I really wanted to go +[3366.66 --> 3367.36] to all things open. +[3367.86 --> 3368.16] It's too much +[3368.16 --> 3369.26] traveling but I really +[3369.26 --> 3369.80] want to go. +[3369.80 --> 3371.04] Next year remember +[3371.04 --> 3372.32] Halloween, Raleigh, +[3372.56 --> 3373.58] and you'll... +[3373.58 --> 3374.14] I think so. +[3374.60 --> 3375.18] I think so. +[3375.62 --> 3376.46] Also I'll mention we +[3376.46 --> 3377.52] have our Discord server. +[3377.78 --> 3378.68] You can find that on our +[3378.68 --> 3379.70] self-hosted website and +[3379.70 --> 3380.96] we also have a couple of +[3380.96 --> 3382.02] self-hosted Matrix chat +[3382.02 --> 3382.26] rooms. +[3382.74 --> 3383.06] That's at +[3383.06 --> 3384.26] jupiterbroadcasting.com +[3384.26 --> 3385.64] slash Matrix and then +[3385.64 --> 3386.94] the podcast itself at +[3386.94 --> 3389.20] self-hosted show on +[3389.20 --> 3389.42] Twitter. +[3390.08 --> 3390.88] And I do really mean it. +[3390.94 --> 3392.06] I know they say this every +[3392.06 --> 3393.12] single week about thanks +[3393.12 --> 3394.10] for listening everybody but +[3394.10 --> 3395.38] genuinely if you made it +[3395.38 --> 3396.20] this far in the show, +[3396.40 --> 3397.12] thank you very much for +[3397.12 --> 3397.40] listening. +[3397.40 --> 3398.86] This is self-hosted +[3398.86 --> 3400.36] dot show slash 82.