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-[0.08 --> 2.50]  Today's episode is a really exciting one for me.
-[3.06 --> 5.70]  It's the culmination of five years' work.
-[6.00 --> 9.66]  The perfect media server is now, well, I'll save it for the show.
-[10.06 --> 11.68]  We also respond to a ton of your feedback.
-[11.96 --> 13.50]  This is Self-Hosted 35.
-[15.00 --> 17.50]  Well, Alex, I'll admit it right here on the show,
-[17.66 --> 20.66]  I set up yet another SyncThing server this weekend.
-[21.00 --> 23.54]  You thought you'd leave 2020 behind in style, hey?
-[24.10 --> 25.86]  I wanted more speed, Alex.
-[25.92 --> 29.58]  Actually, it really came down to me doing the math and realizing,
-[29.58 --> 33.92]  hey, you know, when I switch networks, it kind of slows the syncing down.
-[34.28 --> 37.02]  But if I can pull from multiple Sync servers,
-[37.62 --> 40.64]  it kind of makes up for it and goes even faster in ideal situations.
-[40.80 --> 44.58]  So I thought, why not set up a SyncThing server on Linode
-[44.58 --> 47.80]  and just sync a small select stuff that I really want to move fast?
-[48.56 --> 51.10]  And it legit works. It's really nice.
-[51.76 --> 54.52]  It's like doubles the amount of files that can be transferred at once, too,
-[55.02 --> 56.88]  from what I can tell in my brief testing.
-[56.88 --> 59.64]  I'll be honest, I haven't continued with SyncThing
-[59.64 --> 61.62]  after we talked about it a couple of episodes ago.
-[61.96 --> 62.80]  It just doesn't work for me.
-[62.88 --> 64.58]  It just doesn't do it, I'm afraid.
-[64.84 --> 66.16]  But I'm glad it's working for you.
-[66.54 --> 67.86]  You're a hater. I understand.
-[68.30 --> 69.46]  I understand. I understand.
-[69.64 --> 71.16]  I love it.
-[71.52 --> 80.10]  I think 2020 is the year that I stepped into a long-term relationship with SyncThing.
-[80.10 --> 84.18]  And it's not like I'm working on files super quick
-[84.18 --> 85.54]  and I want to move it between machines
-[85.54 --> 88.42]  and I want to edit a file upstairs and then walk down into the studio
-[88.42 --> 90.06]  and have that file on my desktop.
-[90.68 --> 94.26]  It may be able to serve that function, but I've learned not to expect that.
-[94.58 --> 97.28]  The one caveat I do have with SyncThing
-[97.28 --> 99.94]  is you've got to let it go at its own pace.
-[100.22 --> 101.46]  You've got to let it go at its own pace.
-[101.96 --> 103.56]  And that's why I love online learning, too.
-[103.62 --> 106.04]  And this episode is brought to you by the all-new A Cloud Guru,
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-[117.02 --> 119.14]  Well, Alex, I think we should start the show today by,
-[119.38 --> 121.34]  well, maybe we started by talking about SyncThing,
-[121.44 --> 125.76]  but now we should start talking about a project in various forms, at least,
-[125.82 --> 127.96]  you've been working on for about five years.
-[128.16 --> 132.92]  And I think, if I'm not wrong, it's like about to reach its ultimate form.
-[133.32 --> 134.06]  Perhaps, yeah.
-[134.06 --> 136.58]  Well, I mean, as we record, it's still 2020,
-[136.90 --> 139.58]  but I think this is going to come out on New Year's morning.
-[139.76 --> 141.34]  So Happy New Year, everybody.
-[141.78 --> 142.74]  Welcome to 2021.
-[143.20 --> 146.12]  Hopefully, it's more prosperous than the last one was.
-[146.62 --> 149.02]  We're talking about my perfect media server project.
-[149.26 --> 152.64]  So this was something that, when I was involved with linuxserver.io,
-[152.80 --> 159.12]  that actually helped me kind of form the direction for that site
-[159.12 --> 160.60]  and the blog and stuff like that.
-[160.60 --> 169.48]  So on the 2nd of February 2016, I wrote a post about what I called the perfect media server,
-[169.66 --> 171.56]  for want of a better name, and it's kind of stuck now.
-[171.96 --> 174.70]  It's bold, but now you've kind of become the perfect media server guy.
-[174.94 --> 176.08]  Yeah, I guess so.
-[176.92 --> 179.06]  You know, I've toyed with changing the name a few times,
-[179.18 --> 181.18]  but enough people have seen it.
-[181.44 --> 182.64]  And, you know, I've looked at the analytics,
-[182.64 --> 185.88]  and a lot of people have read that post over the years.
-[187.16 --> 189.16]  In fact, funnily enough, when I moved to Raleigh,
-[189.22 --> 191.54]  one of my closest friends now, who's also called Alex,
-[192.16 --> 194.92]  he joined Linux server originally.
-[195.14 --> 196.52]  He's now one of the Linux server devs.
-[196.74 --> 200.36]  He joined that website because he read my perfect media server post.
-[200.90 --> 203.62]  And so when I came to town, like, he met up with me,
-[203.66 --> 205.90]  and we had a few beers and stuff like that.
-[205.90 --> 209.22]  And he was so excited to tell me that he'd built one as well around,
-[209.30 --> 213.68]  you know, Docker and Snap Raid and Merger FS and all this kind of stuff.
-[213.82 --> 217.72]  So it's been a really cool thing to share with the world.
-[218.26 --> 221.88]  Well, you also got a great domain name for it, perfectmediaserver.com.
-[221.98 --> 222.78]  Is that new?
-[223.12 --> 223.96]  Brand new, yes.
-[224.30 --> 228.98]  I, well, when I say brand new, I mean, I bought it in June.
-[228.98 --> 238.52]  I've been promising a 2020 version of this article for rather longer than I would like.
-[238.82 --> 243.58]  So I released one in 2016, another one in 17, and another one in 19.
-[244.06 --> 246.66]  And, you know, when you start thinking about what can I write about
-[246.66 --> 249.70]  with these perfect media servers,
-[249.96 --> 253.72]  when everything is just so reliable and just works,
-[254.78 --> 256.46]  there comes a limit when you think,
-[256.46 --> 260.10]  well, I can't really rehash the same thing again and again.
-[261.38 --> 264.78]  And so this time I was looking at the three posts.
-[265.08 --> 267.74]  And since I'm no longer involved with Linux server,
-[267.92 --> 271.06]  I don't have access to edit those blog posts easily anymore.
-[271.22 --> 273.48]  I mean, I can ask the team to fix things and stuff,
-[273.64 --> 276.32]  but invariably information goes out of date.
-[276.66 --> 280.18]  And I am a huge advocate of open source
-[280.18 --> 284.56]  and community contributions and wikis and all that kind of stuff.
-[284.56 --> 288.18]  And so I just thought that this would make much more sense
-[288.18 --> 293.38]  as a kind of a wiki type website with first class search categories,
-[293.72 --> 296.22]  walking people through how to do things,
-[296.28 --> 298.10]  you know, in a step-by-step kind of fashion,
-[298.38 --> 302.30]  and then leave the blog posts as kind of like an annual opinion piece
-[302.30 --> 305.50]  alongside this more kind of dry,
-[305.68 --> 309.80]  technical wiki style website at perfectmediaserver.com.
-[309.80 --> 311.18]  Okay, that makes a lot of sense.
-[311.74 --> 315.86]  And I think probably the real value for people to understand is
-[315.86 --> 318.64]  you're telling people there's a lot of options out there,
-[318.74 --> 320.82]  but maybe this is a great stack to use.
-[320.88 --> 321.78]  You can use this stack.
-[321.88 --> 322.60]  I've tested this.
-[322.68 --> 329.54]  I've refined it over the years to do really a beyond just okay media setup,
-[329.58 --> 330.74]  but a great home media setup.
-[330.96 --> 333.76]  And instead of saying, oh, there's so many use cases
-[333.76 --> 336.54]  or the answer, which is frequently it depends,
-[336.98 --> 338.60]  you make some opinionated decisions
-[338.60 --> 341.12]  and kind of point people in a direction
-[341.12 --> 342.34]  and then lay out how to do it.
-[342.66 --> 345.88]  And I think that's maybe, for me, the real value of the site.
-[345.88 --> 348.98]  I think as well, a lot of people come to Linux,
-[349.04 --> 350.34]  and I've said this before on the show,
-[350.94 --> 353.70]  a lot of people come to Linux not through the desktop,
-[354.14 --> 356.34]  but through Plex,
-[356.62 --> 358.90]  through running headless apps on a Synology
-[358.90 --> 360.88]  or a Raspberry Pi or something like that.
-[360.88 --> 364.54]  And once you start having a box in your house
-[364.54 --> 367.46]  that does everything 24 hours a day,
-[367.62 --> 369.16]  that is on 24 hours a day,
-[369.58 --> 370.82]  you think, what else could I do with it?
-[371.04 --> 374.04]  And that single spark is a huge rabbit hole.
-[374.20 --> 377.12]  And I think one of my primary goals with the site
-[377.12 --> 379.38]  is to equip those newer people
-[379.38 --> 383.74]  with the skills that they need to install Ubuntu,
-[384.82 --> 385.94]  set up MergerFS,
-[386.48 --> 388.16]  figure out what an FS tab is,
-[388.16 --> 391.02]  and not be intimidated by, you know,
-[391.22 --> 396.10]  wading through lots of different disparate documentation
-[396.10 --> 397.94]  across different places on the internet.
-[398.04 --> 399.22]  It's just all in one place.
-[399.88 --> 402.78]  And if you want to have multiple hard drives
-[402.78 --> 405.32]  in a single box that are of mismatched sizes
-[405.32 --> 406.80]  with different file systems,
-[407.24 --> 408.58]  well, here's a solution for you.
-[409.10 --> 410.70]  You've already got data on these drives.
-[410.78 --> 411.88]  You don't want to do RAID.
-[412.22 --> 413.04]  Great, cool.
-[413.14 --> 414.66]  Come along and join the party.
-[414.66 --> 416.62]  Yeah, and honestly,
-[416.92 --> 418.98]  it's a lot of the stack that we talk about frequently.
-[419.34 --> 420.58]  You talk about Docker,
-[420.76 --> 422.34]  kind of some of the background in there,
-[422.40 --> 423.02]  how to get it going.
-[423.34 --> 425.12]  And you work your way up through
-[425.12 --> 426.76]  how to manage multiple disks
-[426.76 --> 427.88]  of different sizes, like you say.
-[427.96 --> 428.54]  But then also,
-[429.08 --> 430.32]  if you want to go ZFS,
-[430.70 --> 433.78]  and here's also a Proxmox layer you should consider,
-[434.68 --> 436.44]  any one of those could be broken out
-[436.44 --> 438.42]  and really have nothing to do
-[438.42 --> 440.30]  with building a media server.
-[440.64 --> 442.28]  So it's kind of valuable in that way too, I suppose.
-[442.28 --> 444.00]  So I mentioned that just for the audience
-[444.00 --> 446.02]  who's not interested in building a media server,
-[446.16 --> 449.04]  but does want to learn more about Docker
-[449.04 --> 452.36]  or MergerFS or SnapRate or ZFS or Proxmox
-[452.36 --> 454.88]  or hardware, any of that kind of stack,
-[454.96 --> 456.24]  stuff we talk about on this show
-[456.24 --> 458.16]  and you want to read something from Alex on it,
-[458.68 --> 459.52]  you can find it there too.
-[459.66 --> 462.42]  And I could totally have seen a guy like me,
-[463.24 --> 465.10]  maybe if I was building my media server setup
-[465.10 --> 465.90]  for the first time,
-[466.22 --> 467.18]  I'd be thinking, okay,
-[467.24 --> 468.52]  I know I want to use containers,
-[468.70 --> 470.00]  but I don't quite know how
-[470.00 --> 472.60]  and in what way to use them to do this right.
-[473.24 --> 474.52]  I know about MergerFS,
-[474.80 --> 476.42]  but I don't know how to deploy it.
-[476.52 --> 478.62]  And so having you write something,
-[479.52 --> 481.04]  having used this stuff in production
-[481.04 --> 482.16]  for five years now,
-[482.70 --> 484.16]  there's value to that.
-[484.46 --> 486.08]  So you should be the perfect media server guy.
-[486.56 --> 487.88]  I think that's, I said good on you.
-[488.20 --> 490.02]  You be the perfect media server guy
-[490.02 --> 492.84]  because I endorse this media server build here.
-[492.94 --> 494.80]  You are, Chris, and you support this message.
-[495.04 --> 496.08]  I wonder what the cost is.
-[496.12 --> 496.92]  Have you thought about that?
-[496.92 --> 499.44]  Have you thought about like what the cost would be
-[499.44 --> 502.38]  for a minimal build of something from this guide?
-[502.64 --> 503.58]  Well, in terms of hardware?
-[504.60 --> 505.58]  Yeah, in terms of hardware.
-[506.00 --> 507.66]  I think QuickSync now for me
-[507.66 --> 509.50]  is a minimum price of entry
-[509.50 --> 511.54]  after everything we talked about in the last episode.
-[512.24 --> 515.04]  So a hundred bucks for a CPU.
-[515.76 --> 517.32]  You can probably find a used motherboard
-[517.32 --> 518.82]  that will do the trick for a hundred dollars.
-[519.02 --> 520.74]  Again, RAM is about a hundred.
-[521.44 --> 522.66]  And then hard drives.
-[522.74 --> 524.00]  For an eight terabyte hard drive now,
-[524.00 --> 525.30]  you can go to Best Buy and pick one up
-[525.30 --> 528.14]  for around 130, 140.
-[528.58 --> 529.86]  So I don't know.
-[529.92 --> 531.86]  Let's say 140.
-[532.88 --> 533.42]  What's that?
-[533.50 --> 537.14]  It's like $1,100 or so for hard drives.
-[538.06 --> 538.86]  I don't know, $1,500.
-[539.60 --> 541.44]  I think all in would get you
-[541.44 --> 543.58]  five, eight terabyte drives
-[543.58 --> 545.00]  of 40 terabytes of storage
-[545.00 --> 548.28]  for $1,500 all in.
-[548.28 --> 550.92]  And you own it forever.
-[551.68 --> 552.54]  It's, you know, you're not,
-[553.40 --> 555.10]  I mean, Synology make a great product.
-[555.20 --> 557.68]  So do QNAP and Unraid's also great,
-[557.78 --> 558.82]  but it's not open source.
-[559.68 --> 562.50]  Free NAS requires learning ZFS,
-[563.16 --> 565.72]  which I know I talk about in Perfect Media Server,
-[565.82 --> 569.94]  but it's kind of orthogonal to the main content.
-[570.06 --> 571.82]  It's not required learning.
-[571.98 --> 574.44]  Whereas with a True NAS or a Free NAS product,
-[574.66 --> 575.24]  it is.
-[575.24 --> 578.50]  It's just the most flexible thing for most people.
-[578.64 --> 581.32]  And I think when you start looking at
-[581.32 --> 582.86]  putting together one of these servers,
-[583.00 --> 585.80]  $1,500 isn't a small upfront investment.
-[586.00 --> 586.50]  And you think, right,
-[586.56 --> 587.84]  well, where can I cut some costs?
-[587.94 --> 590.64]  And the obvious answer is the hard drives.
-[591.06 --> 592.60]  You know, rather than buying five,
-[592.70 --> 594.58]  let's only buy a couple, right?
-[594.60 --> 596.90]  And then I'll add the other three
-[596.90 --> 598.12]  over the next year or two.
-[598.90 --> 600.20]  MergerFS lets me do that.
-[600.28 --> 603.40]  It lets me add drives as my collection grows
-[603.40 --> 607.60]  without having to re-silver a ZFS array
-[607.60 --> 611.40]  or rebuild a RAID setup or anything like that.
-[611.44 --> 613.36]  It just grows as I do,
-[613.42 --> 614.66]  and it changes and matures.
-[615.00 --> 616.66]  And because it's just Linux,
-[617.00 --> 620.16]  it's open and I can go and tinker
-[620.16 --> 621.52]  as deep as I want under the hood.
-[621.90 --> 623.40]  Or again, because it's Linux,
-[623.56 --> 624.96]  it will just work.
-[625.04 --> 625.76]  It's just reliable.
-[626.02 --> 628.16]  It's battle-tested and hardened everywhere.
-[628.16 --> 632.58]  So I really do think that if you're willing
-[632.58 --> 636.34]  to put the time in and learn a little bit of this stuff
-[636.34 --> 638.92]  with the information that's provided here for you,
-[639.12 --> 640.10]  for free, I might add,
-[640.14 --> 641.76]  I don't make a penny off of this stuff.
-[642.20 --> 643.62]  Anyway, I never have.
-[643.68 --> 644.90]  I just wanted to give this information
-[644.90 --> 645.90]  back to the community.
-[646.76 --> 648.72]  I don't think there's a better solution, really,
-[648.80 --> 650.12]  if you're willing to put the effort in.
-[650.92 --> 652.44]  And I'll just give one more mention,
-[652.76 --> 654.14]  because as you were talking there,
-[654.14 --> 656.30]  I was just also reviewing your QuickSync
-[656.30 --> 657.68]  and Proxmox page.
-[658.18 --> 659.98]  And damn, you put some work into this.
-[660.46 --> 662.38]  But I also, I think it's pretty clever
-[662.38 --> 665.18]  that you embedded the relevant JB content
-[665.18 --> 667.42]  where we've talked about a lot of this stuff in depth
-[667.42 --> 668.96]  when it still holds up.
-[669.04 --> 671.76]  So not only do you get a lot of the written stuff
-[671.76 --> 672.72]  and the visual examples,
-[672.88 --> 675.26]  but you've got a video from Wendell in here too.
-[675.44 --> 678.14]  And so you add the supplemental media content.
-[678.94 --> 682.48]  I could see us linking this to a lot of people
-[682.48 --> 684.16]  that write into the show and ask questions
-[684.16 --> 684.96]  about this stuff.
-[685.78 --> 687.58]  If I were going to contribute one area,
-[687.68 --> 688.68]  I just thought to troll you,
-[688.74 --> 690.40]  I'd probably contribute using ButterFS.
-[690.96 --> 693.96]  Because literally everything you just said
-[693.96 --> 696.44]  about MergerFS is why I use ButterFS.
-[698.14 --> 699.50]  Seriously, like word for word.
-[699.76 --> 702.62]  So on the ZFS page,
-[702.76 --> 705.28]  there's a whole section about what about ButterFS.
-[706.72 --> 708.20]  Okay, good.
-[708.24 --> 709.24]  You've addressed it, I can see.
-[709.76 --> 711.12]  Well, a little bit.
-[711.12 --> 714.14]  And my conclusion was that using ButterFS
-[714.14 --> 717.06]  would probably be easier than ZFS
-[717.06 --> 720.08]  simply because it's shipped as part of the Linux kernel.
-[720.34 --> 724.02]  But I've invested in ZFS mentally,
-[724.20 --> 727.32]  but also I've synced six,
-[727.46 --> 730.82]  seven terabytes worth of data across the ocean to the UK.
-[731.36 --> 733.14]  And I don't want to have to spend another
-[733.14 --> 736.58]  six or seven weeks doing that again if I switch.
-[736.92 --> 738.80]  Well, ironically, it's more about
-[738.80 --> 740.48]  it's more about how you use MergerFS.
-[741.00 --> 742.92]  However, I think, you know, both are gray.
-[743.02 --> 744.72]  And if MergerFS is working for you,
-[745.52 --> 747.16]  I'm not, I will really not, I'm just more teasing.
-[747.64 --> 749.22]  But it did strike me
-[749.22 --> 752.08]  that being able to join mismatched disks
-[752.08 --> 753.66]  and add them as it grows
-[753.66 --> 755.06]  and be able to remove them easily
-[755.06 --> 757.74]  is why I switched to using ButterFS
-[757.74 --> 759.26]  on my Raspberry Pi media servers.
-[759.26 --> 760.36]  Because I needed something
-[760.36 --> 762.54]  that essentially was no cost.
-[762.54 --> 764.74]  Since ButterFS is built into the kernel
-[764.74 --> 767.18]  and it also doesn't have a high,
-[767.28 --> 768.86]  it's a very efficient file system.
-[768.94 --> 770.10]  There's not a big performance penalty.
-[770.24 --> 771.24]  I don't need a lot of RAM.
-[771.94 --> 773.04]  It meant that I didn't have to install
-[773.04 --> 775.28]  any additional software at all.
-[775.62 --> 778.50]  And actually no additional config files or anything.
-[778.74 --> 779.40]  There's no config.
-[779.50 --> 781.86]  It's just, it's all just with volume management
-[781.86 --> 782.74]  on the command line.
-[782.82 --> 783.72]  And it's very simple.
-[783.84 --> 785.92]  It's like ButterFS add volume
-[785.92 --> 786.86]  and you give it the path
-[786.86 --> 788.16]  and you tell it what volume to add to
-[788.16 --> 789.02]  and boom, you're done.
-[789.22 --> 789.76]  And then remove.
-[789.76 --> 790.90]  And as long as you have enough space,
-[790.98 --> 791.80]  it sinks everything off
-[791.80 --> 792.56]  and you can remove it.
-[792.76 --> 794.68]  And I actually have not tested that.
-[794.80 --> 796.14]  I could imagine it being tricky.
-[796.66 --> 797.66]  But I think, you know,
-[797.76 --> 799.60]  it's, there's different ways
-[799.60 --> 800.56]  to solve all of these.
-[800.72 --> 802.36]  And what you've done here with this
-[802.36 --> 803.66]  is said, well, these are ways
-[803.66 --> 807.36]  that not only are very sensible solutions,
-[807.36 --> 808.32]  but ones that I've tested.
-[808.74 --> 810.04]  And that's the value again.
-[810.12 --> 811.24]  Like, yeah, I could add something
-[811.24 --> 811.84]  about ButterFS,
-[812.18 --> 815.12]  but there's limited value in it.
-[815.22 --> 816.44]  You know, it's my experience.
-[816.98 --> 817.80]  And this is something
-[817.80 --> 819.16]  that you've worked at for a long time.
-[819.16 --> 820.70]  So I think it's, yeah,
-[820.88 --> 822.20]  I think MurderFS is a great solution
-[822.20 --> 823.00]  for that kind of stuff.
-[823.12 --> 824.68]  And, you know, things like ZFS
-[824.68 --> 825.44]  and SnapRaid,
-[825.54 --> 827.12]  depending on what your needs are,
-[827.16 --> 828.84]  also can be appropriate solutions.
-[829.44 --> 830.30]  So I've built this site
-[830.30 --> 831.16]  around MKDocs,
-[831.74 --> 834.02]  which happens to be the same project
-[834.02 --> 835.02]  that we're using
-[835.02 --> 836.14]  for the self-hosted wiki,
-[836.26 --> 837.56]  which I've also put some work
-[837.56 --> 838.36]  into this week
-[838.36 --> 840.06]  over the Christmas break.
-[840.48 --> 841.66]  So please go ahead
-[841.66 --> 843.34]  and contribute to the self-hosted wiki
-[843.34 --> 845.14]  at wiki.selfhosted.show
-[845.14 --> 846.92]  because we're crying out
-[846.92 --> 847.94]  for content over there.
-[847.94 --> 850.14]  But MKDocs,
-[850.20 --> 851.04]  I'll tell you what, Chris,
-[851.16 --> 854.70]  has become a hell of a wiki software,
-[855.02 --> 855.32]  you know?
-[855.64 --> 856.16]  So I don't know
-[856.16 --> 857.02]  when you're browsing this,
-[857.08 --> 858.16]  but I don't know if you noticed
-[858.16 --> 859.30]  it has a keyboard shortcut.
-[859.58 --> 860.38]  And they don't tell you this,
-[860.44 --> 860.62]  obviously,
-[860.72 --> 862.00]  but it's the same as Vim.
-[862.40 --> 864.80]  So you can press the forward slash key,
-[865.00 --> 866.38]  which brings up search,
-[866.52 --> 867.50]  and then you can search
-[867.50 --> 869.00]  for any string in any page.
-[869.18 --> 870.06]  And it will just,
-[870.30 --> 870.98]  in real time,
-[871.06 --> 872.12]  and then use the arrow keys.
-[872.28 --> 873.08]  Oh, yes.
-[873.08 --> 874.58]  And it will just take you straight
-[874.58 --> 876.10]  to the section of that page.
-[876.22 --> 877.36]  Just that feature alone
-[877.36 --> 878.64]  had me sold.
-[878.88 --> 879.02]  Huh.
-[879.64 --> 880.16]  That's great.
-[880.22 --> 881.02]  But they've added dozens
-[881.02 --> 881.88]  of other features,
-[882.30 --> 882.52]  you know,
-[882.60 --> 884.04]  like they've got little tool tips,
-[884.50 --> 885.62]  little info boxes,
-[885.62 --> 887.42]  and stuff that breaks up the content.
-[888.06 --> 889.76]  The code formatting,
-[890.02 --> 890.44]  highlighting,
-[890.84 --> 892.04]  is just brilliant.
-[892.82 --> 894.22]  It's fully customizable.
-[894.22 --> 896.00]  So, you know,
-[896.26 --> 898.30]  it was using the COBOL wiki
-[898.30 --> 899.82]  for the Helios 64 review,
-[899.98 --> 900.86]  which finally got me
-[900.86 --> 903.58]  to really take MKDocs seriously
-[903.58 --> 905.82]  and really went through
-[905.82 --> 906.34]  the documentation
-[906.34 --> 907.66]  with a fine tooth comb.
-[907.84 --> 908.80]  And I've enabled
-[908.80 --> 909.96]  all the features that I want.
-[910.16 --> 910.84]  And the only thing
-[910.84 --> 912.16]  I haven't done yet is comments,
-[912.38 --> 913.94]  which I might do.
-[914.02 --> 914.48]  I might not.
-[914.56 --> 915.46]  I haven't decided yet.
-[915.98 --> 918.24]  But the material theme
-[918.24 --> 920.72]  for MKDocs really is stunning.
-[921.08 --> 923.36]  And I don't think at the moment
-[923.36 --> 924.74]  there's a better open source
-[924.74 --> 926.88]  documentation platform.
-[927.48 --> 928.04]  Yeah, I will say
-[928.04 --> 929.26]  that just the presentation,
-[929.54 --> 930.52]  so not even commenting
-[930.52 --> 931.04]  on what it's like
-[931.04 --> 932.62]  to actually write on it,
-[932.66 --> 933.28]  but the presentation
-[933.28 --> 935.48]  is extremely readable.
-[936.26 --> 936.82]  You know, documentation,
-[937.14 --> 938.32]  especially something
-[938.32 --> 939.86]  as extensive as a topic like this,
-[939.92 --> 941.08]  can be just a chore
-[941.08 --> 941.76]  to get through.
-[942.18 --> 943.40]  But the way it lays out,
-[943.46 --> 943.90]  like you said,
-[943.94 --> 944.44]  the way it does
-[944.44 --> 945.42]  some of the different quoting
-[945.42 --> 946.92]  and code blocks
-[946.92 --> 948.14]  and all of it,
-[948.26 --> 950.02]  just all of it is really,
-[950.10 --> 950.40]  it's just,
-[950.50 --> 951.42]  it makes me want to use it
-[951.42 --> 951.94]  for my stuff.
-[951.94 --> 953.02]  So I was going to ask you,
-[953.02 --> 953.66]  I was going to talk to you
-[953.66 --> 954.24]  about MKDocs
-[954.24 --> 954.86]  and see what you thought
-[954.86 --> 956.70]  because, yeah,
-[956.78 --> 957.72]  it really seems impressive
-[957.72 --> 960.86]  and probably the perfect solution
-[960.86 --> 963.88]  for just JB internal documentation.
-[964.38 --> 964.66]  Yeah, I mean,
-[964.80 --> 965.28]  it's all,
-[965.50 --> 966.68]  everything's written in Markdown.
-[967.52 --> 968.96]  So if in the future
-[968.96 --> 969.80]  you decided to use
-[969.80 --> 970.64]  a different solution
-[970.64 --> 971.34]  for some reason,
-[972.14 --> 973.24]  it's just plain text.
-[973.34 --> 974.94]  It's not in a CMS somewhere.
-[975.46 --> 976.40]  It lives in a Git repo.
-[976.90 --> 978.14]  You can just copy and paste
-[978.14 --> 978.70]  and job done.
-[979.08 --> 979.84]  That's pretty nice.
-[980.22 --> 981.94]  Well, so as we record right now,
-[981.94 --> 983.64]  this isn't live.
-[983.90 --> 985.26]  So what's your plan?
-[985.30 --> 985.86]  I assume you're going to try
-[985.86 --> 986.36]  to get it out
-[986.36 --> 987.62]  when the show goes live.
-[988.12 --> 989.06]  If you look at my GitHub
-[989.06 --> 990.42]  commit history this week,
-[990.42 --> 991.90]  it's going to be bright green.
-[992.30 --> 992.70]  Yeah.
-[993.42 --> 994.92]  I'm working away feverishly
-[994.92 --> 995.66]  on this to get it done
-[995.66 --> 996.42]  by the end of 2020.
-[996.84 --> 998.12]  So I'm aiming
-[998.12 --> 999.46]  for a New Year's Eve launch.
-[999.56 --> 1000.34]  So by the time you listen
-[1000.34 --> 1000.98]  to this episode,
-[1001.06 --> 1001.86]  it should be live.
-[1002.58 --> 1003.38]  PerfectMediaServer.com.
-[1003.50 --> 1004.32]  Let me know what you think
-[1004.32 --> 1005.74]  at IronicBadger on Twitter.
-[1005.74 --> 1007.96]  I would love to hear
-[1007.96 --> 1008.38]  what you think
-[1008.38 --> 1009.58]  because I've put a lot of time,
-[1010.04 --> 1011.20]  probably several hundred hours
-[1011.20 --> 1012.60]  into this site
-[1012.60 --> 1013.24]  by the end of it,
-[1013.42 --> 1014.14]  all told.
-[1014.76 --> 1016.08]  I'd also accept PRs
-[1016.08 --> 1016.84]  on the GitHub repo.
-[1016.98 --> 1017.86]  So if you want to open an issue,
-[1017.94 --> 1018.72]  if you find a mistake
-[1018.72 --> 1019.82]  or something,
-[1019.96 --> 1021.08]  which is highly likely
-[1021.08 --> 1021.54]  at the pace
-[1021.54 --> 1022.44]  I'm working right now,
-[1023.18 --> 1023.62]  let me know
-[1023.62 --> 1024.46]  through a GitHub issue
-[1024.46 --> 1025.44]  or open a pull request
-[1025.44 --> 1025.80]  or something.
-[1025.88 --> 1026.78]  I would love to hear from you.
-[1026.78 --> 1027.18]  Okay.
-[1027.58 --> 1032.42]  Needs more ButterFS documentation.
-[1033.20 --> 1033.64]  Serious.
-[1033.64 --> 1034.52]  Seriously.
-[1035.26 --> 1035.74]  Jeez.
-[1037.88 --> 1038.74]  You, sir,
-[1038.86 --> 1040.54]  are a grade A troll.
-[1040.74 --> 1041.18]  Thank you.
-[1043.56 --> 1044.66]  Linode.com
-[1044.66 --> 1045.86]  slash SSH.
-[1045.96 --> 1046.24]  Go there
-[1046.24 --> 1047.50]  to get a $100
-[1047.50 --> 1048.90]  60-day credit
-[1048.90 --> 1049.68]  towards a new account
-[1049.68 --> 1050.76]  and go there
-[1050.76 --> 1051.54]  to support the show.
-[1051.94 --> 1052.68]  Linode is our
-[1052.68 --> 1053.78]  cloud hosting provider
-[1053.78 --> 1054.84]  and because the price
-[1054.84 --> 1055.32]  is so great,
-[1055.44 --> 1056.40]  they can make it possible
-[1056.40 --> 1058.24]  for you to use Linode
-[1058.24 --> 1059.60]  even for a small deployment
-[1059.60 --> 1061.06]  or for a large deployment.
-[1061.68 --> 1062.44]  Jeff used Linode
-[1062.44 --> 1063.26]  to test migrate
-[1063.26 --> 1063.82]  his important
-[1063.82 --> 1064.72]  NextCloud setup.
-[1065.10 --> 1066.04]  He just took things
-[1066.04 --> 1067.24]  one step at a time
-[1067.24 --> 1068.26]  using different guides
-[1068.26 --> 1068.74]  on Linode
-[1068.74 --> 1069.24]  to make sure
-[1069.24 --> 1070.10]  everything was right
-[1070.10 --> 1071.48]  and he says
-[1071.48 --> 1072.36]  eventually after about
-[1072.36 --> 1073.32]  three pages of notes
-[1073.32 --> 1074.80]  he did a completed
-[1074.80 --> 1076.26]  successful migration
-[1076.26 --> 1077.46]  and then he was able
-[1077.46 --> 1078.84]  to take that knowledge,
-[1079.52 --> 1080.76]  take that hands-on experience
-[1080.76 --> 1083.62]  and go actually implement it
-[1083.62 --> 1084.28]  on his production
-[1084.28 --> 1085.12]  NextCloud instance.
-[1085.50 --> 1085.70]  He said,
-[1085.78 --> 1086.36]  but in the testing
-[1086.36 --> 1087.32]  he noticed that
-[1087.32 --> 1090.26]  even their smaller Linodes
-[1090.26 --> 1091.98]  were still faster
-[1091.98 --> 1092.68]  than his local
-[1092.68 --> 1093.30]  quad-core
-[1093.30 --> 1094.12]  16-gigabyte
-[1094.12 --> 1094.86]  local machine.
-[1096.14 --> 1098.14]  So he's looking at
-[1098.14 --> 1098.92]  maybe just hosting it
-[1098.92 --> 1099.92]  on Linode.com
-[1099.92 --> 1100.94]  And Alex,
-[1101.04 --> 1102.06]  I know that you're using
-[1102.06 --> 1102.52]  Linode for
-[1102.52 --> 1103.86]  the perfectmediaserver.com
-[1103.86 --> 1105.10]  I sure am, yeah.
-[1105.32 --> 1106.64]  Same node as
-[1106.64 --> 1107.54]  is doing the wiki
-[1107.54 --> 1109.94]  and gallery.selfhosted.show
-[1109.94 --> 1111.18]  is doing
-[1111.18 --> 1112.74]  perfectmediaserver.com
-[1112.74 --> 1114.40]  So you can really squeeze
-[1114.40 --> 1114.92]  quite a lot
-[1114.92 --> 1115.84]  out of these little things.
-[1115.84 --> 1116.94]  I love hearing
-[1116.94 --> 1118.02]  how people are using
-[1118.02 --> 1118.58]  Linode.
-[1118.72 --> 1119.56]  So do let me know
-[1119.56 --> 1120.82]  either at the contact
-[1120.82 --> 1121.98]  forum or at Chris Lass
-[1121.98 --> 1122.62]  on Twitter
-[1122.62 --> 1124.08]  because with $5
-[1124.08 --> 1125.14]  a month rigs
-[1125.14 --> 1125.96]  you can do a lot
-[1125.96 --> 1127.56]  but they also have
-[1127.56 --> 1129.60]  dedicated CPU systems
-[1129.60 --> 1130.30]  or machines
-[1130.30 --> 1131.30]  with tons of RAM
-[1131.30 --> 1132.44]  or lots of GPU
-[1132.44 --> 1133.72]  so go experiment
-[1133.72 --> 1134.50]  with that $100
-[1134.50 --> 1135.56]  60-day credit.
-[1135.98 --> 1136.66]  They also offer
-[1136.66 --> 1138.14]  S3 object storage.
-[1138.50 --> 1139.42]  This is a great way
-[1139.42 --> 1140.18]  to store things
-[1140.18 --> 1140.84]  in the cloud
-[1140.84 --> 1142.00]  that don't need
-[1142.00 --> 1142.48]  a Linode
-[1142.48 --> 1142.94]  or a server
-[1142.94 --> 1143.70]  sitting in front of them.
-[1143.76 --> 1144.34]  You can just generate
-[1144.34 --> 1145.00]  a public URL
-[1145.00 --> 1145.72]  for that asset.
-[1146.24 --> 1146.74]  I do this
-[1146.74 --> 1147.66]  for soundboard clips
-[1147.66 --> 1148.66]  you can do this
-[1148.66 --> 1149.22]  for websites
-[1149.22 --> 1150.04]  it's a great way
-[1150.04 --> 1151.00]  to get a super fast
-[1151.00 --> 1151.60]  portfolio
-[1151.60 --> 1152.60]  where everything's
-[1152.60 --> 1153.30]  stored statically
-[1153.30 --> 1154.16]  in object storage
-[1154.16 --> 1155.06]  and their prices
-[1155.06 --> 1155.52]  are great.
-[1155.80 --> 1156.22]  They also have
-[1156.22 --> 1156.96]  load balancers
-[1156.96 --> 1157.26]  and they have
-[1157.26 --> 1157.82]  data centers
-[1157.82 --> 1159.00]  in 11 locations
-[1159.00 --> 1159.76]  around the world.
-[1160.48 --> 1160.88]  So you're going to
-[1160.88 --> 1161.38]  find something
-[1161.38 --> 1161.90]  close to you
-[1161.90 --> 1163.30]  or close to your client.
-[1163.86 --> 1164.18]  So go to
-[1164.18 --> 1165.08]  linode.com
-[1165.08 --> 1166.32]  slash SSH
-[1166.32 --> 1167.06]  go there
-[1167.06 --> 1168.00]  get that $100
-[1168.00 --> 1169.00]  60-day credit
-[1169.00 --> 1169.94]  apply that towards
-[1169.94 --> 1170.44]  a new account
-[1170.44 --> 1171.56]  and go there
-[1171.56 --> 1172.30]  to support the show.
-[1172.82 --> 1173.92]  You help make
-[1173.92 --> 1175.08]  independent content
-[1175.08 --> 1175.58]  like this
-[1175.58 --> 1175.86]  free
-[1175.86 --> 1176.68]  when you go to
-[1176.68 --> 1177.44]  linode.com
-[1177.44 --> 1178.86]  slash SSH.
-[1178.86 --> 1181.96]  I can't quite believe
-[1181.96 --> 1182.64]  just how many
-[1182.64 --> 1183.48]  powerline emails
-[1183.48 --> 1184.30]  we had this week
-[1184.30 --> 1184.86]  though can you?
-[1185.68 --> 1186.74]  Alex it was
-[1186.74 --> 1187.62]  wild.
-[1187.88 --> 1188.66]  So I responded
-[1188.66 --> 1189.74]  to several of them
-[1189.74 --> 1190.16]  directly.
-[1190.32 --> 1190.96]  I figured we respond
-[1190.96 --> 1191.56]  to a couple here
-[1191.56 --> 1192.14]  in the show
-[1192.14 --> 1193.34]  when we had a few
-[1193.34 --> 1193.88]  people write in
-[1193.88 --> 1194.60]  about this stuff.
-[1194.60 --> 1196.24]  I kind of suspected
-[1196.24 --> 1197.04]  that powerline
-[1197.04 --> 1197.64]  networking was
-[1197.64 --> 1198.44]  probably something
-[1198.44 --> 1200.88]  that got more
-[1200.88 --> 1202.62]  use and deployments
-[1202.62 --> 1205.28]  than kind of
-[1205.28 --> 1206.32]  gets representation
-[1206.32 --> 1207.16]  because there's so
-[1207.16 --> 1208.06]  many scenarios
-[1208.06 --> 1209.60]  where Wi-Fi
-[1209.60 --> 1210.64]  just doesn't work
-[1210.64 --> 1212.36]  especially older
-[1212.36 --> 1213.08]  style Wi-Fi
-[1213.08 --> 1213.98]  non-mesh Wi-Fi
-[1213.98 --> 1214.90]  where like
-[1214.90 --> 1215.90]  either a house
-[1215.90 --> 1217.48]  construction materials
-[1217.48 --> 1218.08]  involved
-[1218.08 --> 1219.30]  or distance
-[1219.30 --> 1220.98]  or all kinds
-[1220.98 --> 1221.64]  of weird things.
-[1221.64 --> 1223.58]  I have a family
-[1223.58 --> 1224.28]  member who's
-[1224.28 --> 1225.04]  next to an airport
-[1225.04 --> 1226.32]  and their
-[1226.32 --> 1227.22]  radio signal
-[1227.22 --> 1228.12]  situation is just
-[1228.12 --> 1228.50]  crazy.
-[1229.02 --> 1229.48]  It's just
-[1229.48 --> 1230.82]  unusable.
-[1231.58 --> 1231.98]  So I
-[1231.98 --> 1233.14]  suspected
-[1233.14 --> 1234.00]  we would hear
-[1234.00 --> 1234.90]  a lot about this
-[1234.90 --> 1236.86]  but JT wrote in
-[1236.86 --> 1237.50]  to say that he's
-[1237.50 --> 1238.02]  been using
-[1238.02 --> 1238.82]  powerline adapters
-[1238.82 --> 1239.76]  for a couple of years.
-[1240.38 --> 1241.26]  He currently has
-[1241.26 --> 1241.94]  three of the
-[1241.94 --> 1243.34]  TP-Link AV1000s
-[1243.34 --> 1243.88]  which is the kit
-[1243.88 --> 1244.28]  I bought
-[1244.28 --> 1246.06]  with two different kits
-[1246.06 --> 1246.84]  and he's using them
-[1246.84 --> 1247.50]  without any issues.
-[1247.62 --> 1247.90]  So he bought
-[1247.90 --> 1248.74]  two of the kits
-[1248.74 --> 1249.70]  two of what I have
-[1249.70 --> 1250.40]  and they all
-[1250.40 --> 1251.00]  link together.
-[1251.00 --> 1251.90]  He says I do
-[1251.90 --> 1252.32]  have a problem
-[1252.32 --> 1252.78]  with one of the
-[1252.78 --> 1253.36]  rooms though
-[1253.36 --> 1254.34]  where one adapter
-[1254.34 --> 1255.00]  normally gets about
-[1255.00 --> 1256.16]  120 megabits
-[1256.16 --> 1257.64]  and then it gets
-[1257.64 --> 1258.18]  out of sync
-[1258.18 --> 1258.84]  and it starts
-[1258.84 --> 1259.80]  dropping packets
-[1259.80 --> 1260.42]  like mad
-[1260.42 --> 1261.16]  dropping the
-[1261.16 --> 1261.98]  bandwidth next to
-[1261.98 --> 1262.40]  nothing
-[1262.40 --> 1263.06]  sometimes even
-[1263.06 --> 1263.54]  less than a
-[1263.54 --> 1263.98]  megabit
-[1263.98 --> 1264.78]  but if I
-[1264.78 --> 1265.22]  unplug and
-[1265.22 --> 1265.72]  replug them
-[1265.72 --> 1266.14]  back in
-[1266.14 --> 1266.62]  it seems to
-[1266.62 --> 1267.00]  fix it.
-[1267.36 --> 1268.12]  It happens
-[1268.12 --> 1268.46]  from time
-[1268.46 --> 1268.94]  to time
-[1268.94 --> 1270.12]  but also
-[1270.12 --> 1270.60]  I wanted to
-[1270.60 --> 1270.96]  give just a
-[1270.96 --> 1271.52]  quick shout out
-[1271.52 --> 1272.68]  to cloudfree.shop
-[1272.68 --> 1273.38]  one of our
-[1273.38 --> 1274.14]  official unofficial
-[1274.14 --> 1274.86]  sponsors here
-[1274.86 --> 1276.06]  of the self-hosted
-[1276.06 --> 1276.54]  podcast.
-[1277.00 --> 1277.38]  Coupon code
-[1277.38 --> 1278.04]  self-hosted.
-[1278.32 --> 1278.54]  He said
-[1278.54 --> 1279.42]  cloudfree.shop
-[1279.42 --> 1281.02]  finally gave him
-[1281.02 --> 1281.88]  the kick in the
-[1281.88 --> 1282.56]  butt he needed
-[1282.56 --> 1283.48]  to begin automating
-[1283.48 --> 1283.92]  his home.
-[1284.44 --> 1284.64]  He says
-[1284.64 --> 1285.10]  I never want
-[1285.10 --> 1285.52]  anything really
-[1285.52 --> 1286.04]  connected to the
-[1286.04 --> 1286.56]  cloud and with
-[1286.56 --> 1287.20]  smart plugs from
-[1287.20 --> 1288.16]  cloudfree and
-[1288.16 --> 1288.68]  home assistant
-[1288.68 --> 1289.66]  I felt like I
-[1289.66 --> 1290.22]  could finally get
-[1290.22 --> 1290.56]  started.
-[1291.06 --> 1291.68]  The first thing
-[1291.68 --> 1292.42]  that I automated
-[1292.42 --> 1293.64]  was my bearded
-[1293.64 --> 1294.50]  dragon's cage
-[1294.50 --> 1294.84]  lights.
-[1295.38 --> 1295.62]  Yep.
-[1295.74 --> 1296.24]  One of the first
-[1296.24 --> 1296.80]  things I automated
-[1296.80 --> 1297.32]  here in the studio
-[1297.32 --> 1298.22]  was my fish tank
-[1298.22 --> 1299.16]  lights so totally
-[1299.16 --> 1299.86]  totally with you
-[1299.86 --> 1300.16]  JT.
-[1300.58 --> 1301.08]  He says
-[1301.08 --> 1302.22]  which got rid of
-[1302.22 --> 1302.80]  a terrible
-[1302.80 --> 1303.84]  constantly clicking
-[1303.84 --> 1304.70]  analog timer that
-[1304.70 --> 1305.40]  I used to use.
-[1305.40 --> 1306.68]  I also bought a
-[1306.68 --> 1308.76]  D1 mini ESP8266
-[1308.76 --> 1310.02]  Wi-Fi board and
-[1310.02 --> 1311.54]  a BME280 temperature
-[1311.54 --> 1312.44]  pressure and
-[1312.44 --> 1313.86]  humidity sensor and
-[1313.86 --> 1314.70]  combined them into
-[1314.70 --> 1315.98]  an MQTT based
-[1315.98 --> 1316.80]  sensor that home
-[1316.80 --> 1317.78]  assistant uses to
-[1317.78 --> 1318.48]  control the heat
-[1318.48 --> 1319.40]  lamp in the cage.
-[1319.50 --> 1320.62]  Heck yeah he did.
-[1321.88 --> 1322.68]  That's great.
-[1322.72 --> 1323.42]  That's next level.
-[1323.82 --> 1324.74]  Talk about like you
-[1324.74 --> 1327.30]  want a backup no
-[1327.30 --> 1328.14]  fail state for that
-[1328.14 --> 1328.36]  thing.
-[1328.76 --> 1329.42]  He says the
-[1329.42 --> 1330.36]  spousal approval
-[1330.36 --> 1331.98]  factor was very high
-[1331.98 --> 1333.00]  on these purchases
-[1333.00 --> 1334.46]  and the time I
-[1334.46 --> 1335.48]  spent learning to
-[1335.48 --> 1336.22]  solder.
-[1337.06 --> 1337.66]  That's great.
-[1337.74 --> 1338.26]  Says thanks for the
-[1338.26 --> 1338.92]  shows looking forward
-[1338.92 --> 1339.52]  to the next one.
-[1339.90 --> 1340.60]  Good to hear that
-[1340.60 --> 1340.96]  JT.
-[1341.06 --> 1341.62]  I love it when it
-[1341.62 --> 1342.76]  works out and yeah
-[1342.76 --> 1343.80]  for those of you who
-[1343.80 --> 1344.54]  are new to the show
-[1344.54 --> 1346.28]  cloudfree.shop is a
-[1346.28 --> 1347.20]  community built store
-[1347.20 --> 1349.50]  and we're official
-[1349.50 --> 1350.40]  unofficial official
-[1350.40 --> 1351.52]  sponsors or they are
-[1351.52 --> 1353.06]  we just love them and
-[1353.06 --> 1354.26]  we worked out a deal
-[1354.26 --> 1355.24]  when you use the
-[1355.24 --> 1356.42]  promo code and you
-[1356.42 --> 1357.34]  get devices that
-[1357.34 --> 1358.84]  don't have like the
-[1358.84 --> 1359.74]  cloud connected stuff
-[1359.74 --> 1360.16]  on there.
-[1360.64 --> 1361.34]  You know sometimes I
-[1361.34 --> 1362.02]  like a little cloud
-[1362.02 --> 1362.70]  like I put a sync
-[1362.70 --> 1363.34]  things over up in
-[1363.34 --> 1364.30]  the cloud made
-[1364.30 --> 1365.68]  stuff faster but
-[1365.68 --> 1366.84]  the smart plug that
-[1366.84 --> 1367.76]  controls the old fish
-[1367.76 --> 1368.70]  tank I don't want any
-[1368.70 --> 1369.40]  cloud involved with
-[1369.40 --> 1370.34]  that you know it's
-[1370.34 --> 1371.66]  just how it goes.
-[1372.68 --> 1373.16]  And you also don't
-[1373.16 --> 1373.68]  have to wait
-[1373.68 --> 1374.42]  necessarily on the
-[1374.42 --> 1375.02]  slow boat from
-[1375.02 --> 1376.16]  China sometimes for
-[1376.16 --> 1376.68]  these things to
-[1376.68 --> 1377.38]  arrive so.
-[1377.66 --> 1378.42]  True true.
-[1378.66 --> 1379.52]  It is nice that they
-[1379.52 --> 1380.56]  are stateside as well.
-[1380.90 --> 1381.86]  Yeah that's good
-[1381.86 --> 1382.50]  that's a good point.
-[1383.78 --> 1385.22]  Ro wrote in about
-[1385.22 --> 1386.48]  Powerline Finicky and
-[1386.48 --> 1387.22]  I think the reason I
-[1387.22 --> 1388.40]  included his email is
-[1388.40 --> 1389.30]  because he referred to
-[1389.30 --> 1390.80]  us as Chris and the
-[1390.80 --> 1392.68]  Badger which I
-[1392.70 --> 1395.00]  which gave me like
-[1395.00 --> 1398.50]  this morning AM or
-[1398.50 --> 1400.36]  FM radio vibe and I
-[1400.36 --> 1401.14]  just pictured you and
-[1401.14 --> 1402.42]  I doing a morning
-[1402.42 --> 1405.44]  KWRAX Chris and the
-[1405.44 --> 1406.48]  Badger yeah I can I
-[1406.48 --> 1407.14]  can hear it now.
-[1407.34 --> 1407.80]  It's Chris and the
-[1407.80 --> 1408.16]  Badger.
-[1409.76 --> 1410.64]  Welcome to Chris and
-[1410.64 --> 1411.04]  the Badger.
-[1411.18 --> 1411.68]  Chris and the Badger.
-[1411.76 --> 1412.10]  Chris and the Badger.
-[1412.18 --> 1412.96]  It's the Badger.
-[1413.68 --> 1415.42]  Yeah I could see that.
-[1416.62 --> 1418.06]  I want a listener now to
-[1418.06 --> 1418.98]  try and make us a jingle
-[1418.98 --> 1419.76]  Chris and the Badger
-[1419.76 --> 1420.12]  please.
-[1420.36 --> 1420.92]  That would be fun.
-[1422.20 --> 1423.30]  Chris and the Badger in
-[1423.30 --> 1423.74]  the morning.
-[1424.46 --> 1425.48]  He says Chris I was
-[1425.48 --> 1426.20]  surprised to hear about
-[1426.20 --> 1426.82]  your experiences with
-[1426.82 --> 1427.24]  Powerline.
-[1427.34 --> 1427.92]  I've been using the
-[1427.92 --> 1428.74]  TP-Link Powerline
-[1428.74 --> 1429.36]  products for several
-[1429.36 --> 1430.82]  years now and I've had
-[1430.82 --> 1431.78]  mixed results and my
-[1431.78 --> 1433.06]  experience it works but
-[1433.06 --> 1434.20]  sometimes it has some
-[1434.20 --> 1434.92]  problems that make it
-[1434.92 --> 1436.92]  hard to really recommend
-[1436.92 --> 1438.74]  and he tells me about
-[1438.74 --> 1439.76]  different products that
-[1439.76 --> 1440.32]  he's tried and
-[1440.32 --> 1441.42]  troubleshooting and he
-[1441.42 --> 1442.74]  has a pretty solid
-[1442.74 --> 1443.76]  looking house layout.
-[1444.00 --> 1444.32]  You know there's
-[1444.32 --> 1445.36]  nothing too crazy about
-[1445.36 --> 1445.92]  his electrical.
-[1445.92 --> 1447.48]  It's a modern house
-[1447.48 --> 1450.76]  and it's shorter than
-[1450.76 --> 1451.78]  300 meters and all of
-[1451.78 --> 1452.48]  that kind of stuff that
-[1452.48 --> 1453.04]  you'd look at.
-[1453.62 --> 1454.62]  But he says Powerline
-[1454.62 --> 1455.56]  works but it's
-[1455.56 --> 1456.64]  definitely nowhere as
-[1456.64 --> 1457.86]  fast as wired Ethernet.
-[1458.46 --> 1459.38]  In fact it isn't even
-[1459.38 --> 1460.56]  as fast as some of the
-[1460.56 --> 1462.58]  mesh Wi-Fi that he's
-[1462.58 --> 1462.88]  tested.
-[1462.98 --> 1463.60]  So he did several
-[1463.60 --> 1464.28]  different kind of speed
-[1464.28 --> 1465.16]  tests for us and said
-[1465.16 --> 1467.80]  in all he is able to
-[1467.80 --> 1469.06]  get better performance on
-[1469.06 --> 1471.32]  mesh Wi-Fi but in some
-[1471.32 --> 1473.00]  situations where Wi-Fi
-[1473.00 --> 1473.74]  didn't reach or there
-[1473.74 --> 1475.38]  was other issues he was
-[1475.38 --> 1476.30]  still able to get
-[1476.30 --> 1477.70]  around 100, 150
-[1477.70 --> 1478.92]  megabits with his
-[1478.92 --> 1479.84]  Powerline adapters.
-[1480.58 --> 1481.54]  In one case depending
-[1481.54 --> 1482.44]  on a product he tried he
-[1482.44 --> 1483.38]  was able to get 300
-[1483.38 --> 1485.22]  megabits which that's
-[1485.22 --> 1485.88]  pretty respectable.
-[1486.12 --> 1486.76]  That's really all I'd
-[1486.76 --> 1487.52]  want over Powerline.
-[1487.70 --> 1488.50]  I'm not expecting
-[1488.50 --> 1489.00]  gigabit.
-[1489.46 --> 1490.14]  I mean if all you're
-[1490.14 --> 1492.28]  doing is streaming you
-[1492.28 --> 1493.50]  know on Cody or
-[1493.50 --> 1494.44]  something like that you
-[1494.44 --> 1495.00]  know that's all you
-[1495.00 --> 1495.38]  need.
-[1495.58 --> 1496.58]  He points out and it's
-[1496.58 --> 1497.14]  a great thing to
-[1497.14 --> 1498.82]  consider is a little
-[1498.82 --> 1501.26]  play of words that
-[1501.26 --> 1502.60]  these manufacturers use.
-[1502.84 --> 1503.20]  Yes.
-[1503.38 --> 1504.06]  And I haven't verified
-[1504.06 --> 1504.92]  this but according to
-[1504.92 --> 1506.30]  him he says when they
-[1506.30 --> 1507.28]  say it's a gigabit
-[1507.28 --> 1508.74]  they mean it's a
-[1508.74 --> 1509.44]  gigabit when you
-[1509.44 --> 1510.52]  combine the send and
-[1510.52 --> 1510.94]  the receive.
-[1511.52 --> 1512.86]  It's actually half a
-[1512.86 --> 1514.68]  gigabit in both
-[1514.68 --> 1515.24]  directions.
-[1515.62 --> 1516.68]  In a perfect world
-[1516.68 --> 1517.86]  when there is no wind
-[1517.86 --> 1518.46]  outside.
-[1519.14 --> 1519.32]  Right.
-[1519.56 --> 1520.56]  They're about one
-[1520.56 --> 1521.54]  centimeter apart
-[1521.54 --> 1522.44]  probably yes.
-[1522.92 --> 1523.96]  So if you get a two
-[1523.96 --> 1525.34]  gigabit model which
-[1525.34 --> 1526.30]  there are two gigabit
-[1526.30 --> 1527.30]  units then it's one
-[1527.30 --> 1528.22]  gigabit send one
-[1528.22 --> 1529.24]  gigabit receive and it's
-[1529.24 --> 1531.16]  actually a one gigabit
-[1531.16 --> 1532.22]  unit the way we think of
-[1532.22 --> 1532.92]  it in terms of like
-[1532.92 --> 1533.76]  ethernet adapters.
-[1534.40 --> 1535.12]  So that's a little
-[1535.12 --> 1536.08]  trick of rooskies that
-[1536.08 --> 1537.40]  they like to pull that
-[1537.40 --> 1537.92]  when they're quoting
-[1537.92 --> 1539.00]  speeds they're quoting
-[1539.00 --> 1540.74]  just a send or receive.
-[1541.76 --> 1542.70]  But we got lots of
-[1542.70 --> 1543.10]  other feedback.
-[1543.22 --> 1544.02]  Some people thought that
-[1544.02 --> 1545.04]  it was that maybe I'd
-[1545.04 --> 1545.84]  have better performance
-[1545.84 --> 1546.58]  if I didn't have solar
-[1546.58 --> 1549.80]  panels on the RV that
-[1549.80 --> 1550.50]  they thought maybe that
-[1550.50 --> 1551.78]  was causing some high
-[1551.78 --> 1552.80]  degree of interference
-[1552.80 --> 1553.82]  just because of you know
-[1553.82 --> 1554.70]  the intensity of that.
-[1554.86 --> 1556.34]  But those systems are
-[1556.34 --> 1557.02]  totally separate.
-[1557.36 --> 1559.14]  The house power doesn't
-[1559.14 --> 1560.26]  connect to like the
-[1560.26 --> 1562.14]  charge controller or the
-[1562.14 --> 1562.90]  batteries directly.
-[1563.30 --> 1564.16]  Yeah because a lot of
-[1564.16 --> 1565.54]  folks wrote in and said
-[1565.54 --> 1567.34]  that if you have coax in
-[1567.34 --> 1567.94]  your walls you can
-[1567.94 --> 1569.66]  actually get power line
-[1569.66 --> 1572.72]  over coax adapters and
-[1572.72 --> 1573.50]  because they're not
-[1573.50 --> 1575.12]  carrying any signal in
-[1575.12 --> 1576.58]  modern houses generally
-[1576.58 --> 1578.68]  speaking anymore you can
-[1578.68 --> 1579.70]  actually get away with
-[1579.70 --> 1581.80]  you know running ethernet
-[1581.80 --> 1583.90]  over those and they're a
-[1583.90 --> 1585.06]  very clean signal so you
-[1585.06 --> 1585.80]  get better performance
-[1585.80 --> 1586.20]  that way.
-[1586.58 --> 1587.32]  That could be worth
-[1587.32 --> 1587.90]  looking into.
-[1588.20 --> 1590.26]  You know I got a couple
-[1590.26 --> 1591.54]  of spots that have coax
-[1591.54 --> 1592.10]  pre-run.
-[1593.00 --> 1593.82]  That's interesting.
-[1594.14 --> 1594.32]  Hmm.
-[1594.66 --> 1594.94]  Hmm.
-[1595.06 --> 1595.78]  I don't know Alex.
-[1595.86 --> 1597.80]  Maybe one day in the
-[1597.80 --> 1598.42]  future.
-[1599.24 --> 1600.90]  Brad wrote in about a
-[1600.90 --> 1603.54]  killer MOBO with QuickSync.
-[1603.54 --> 1604.68]  Yeah he's found the
-[1604.68 --> 1608.16]  ASRock J5040 ITX board.
-[1608.50 --> 1609.74]  It's a mini ITX form
-[1609.74 --> 1611.00]  factor with a quad core
-[1611.00 --> 1613.92]  Pentium chip and it has
-[1613.92 --> 1615.54]  QuickSync version 605.
-[1615.54 --> 1617.96]  Now he wrote in about
-[1617.96 --> 1619.70]  this one because of
-[1619.70 --> 1620.50]  energy usage.
-[1620.64 --> 1621.96]  This one idles he says
-[1621.96 --> 1624.48]  between 10 and 15 watts
-[1624.48 --> 1624.86]  only.
-[1625.42 --> 1627.40]  But it also has four
-[1627.40 --> 1628.50]  SATA ports which I
-[1628.50 --> 1630.56]  thought hmm this would
-[1630.56 --> 1632.38]  make a really nice sort
-[1632.38 --> 1633.54]  of NAS motherboard
-[1633.54 --> 1634.54]  potentially because you
-[1634.54 --> 1635.60]  know four hard drives
-[1635.60 --> 1637.74]  a small enclosure low
-[1637.74 --> 1639.58]  power draw QuickSync.
-[1640.40 --> 1641.08]  You know you're pushing
-[1641.08 --> 1642.24]  my buttons here Brad.
-[1642.60 --> 1643.16]  Yeah really.
-[1643.16 --> 1643.96]  Me too.
-[1644.32 --> 1645.06]  It looks like a really
-[1645.06 --> 1645.74]  nice motherboard.
-[1645.88 --> 1649.66]  Yeah this ASRock J5040
-[1649.66 --> 1650.16]  ITX.
-[1650.96 --> 1651.74]  We'll put a link in the
-[1651.74 --> 1653.72]  in the show notes.
-[1654.02 --> 1655.30]  But that hardware
-[1655.30 --> 1656.16]  acceleration that
-[1656.78 --> 1658.00]  QuickSync boy that that
-[1658.00 --> 1658.84]  is looking really good.
-[1658.96 --> 1660.02]  And this you could
-[1660.02 --> 1661.28]  totally build I bet you
-[1661.28 --> 1662.76]  for if you had the
-[1662.76 --> 1665.16]  storage I bet two
-[1665.70 --> 1666.40]  three hundred dollars
-[1666.40 --> 1667.64]  to build a nice system
-[1667.64 --> 1668.30]  with a decent little
-[1668.30 --> 1668.70]  case.
-[1668.88 --> 1669.82]  There's some memory
-[1669.82 --> 1670.64]  around this thing.
-[1671.06 --> 1672.82]  It's a passive CPU as
-[1672.82 --> 1674.80]  well so it takes it
-[1674.80 --> 1675.70]  doesn't need a fan on
-[1675.70 --> 1676.18]  the CPU.
-[1676.92 --> 1678.06]  Also it takes a
-[1678.06 --> 1679.50]  laptop style SO
-[1679.50 --> 1680.58]  DIM memory.
-[1681.32 --> 1682.22]  So this thing is tiny.
-[1682.34 --> 1682.86]  It's got a couple of
-[1682.86 --> 1684.46]  M2 slots on there for
-[1684.46 --> 1685.36]  Wi-Fi if you want.
-[1686.10 --> 1687.50]  So yeah yeah go go
-[1687.50 --> 1688.10]  ahead and check that
-[1688.10 --> 1688.36]  one out.
-[1688.42 --> 1688.90]  That looks like a
-[1688.90 --> 1689.96]  really really useful
-[1689.96 --> 1690.50]  little build.
-[1690.96 --> 1691.80]  Stefan wrote in to tell
-[1691.80 --> 1692.72]  us about some benchmarks
-[1692.72 --> 1693.80]  in German that show
-[1693.80 --> 1694.72]  that the latest AMD
-[1694.72 --> 1696.70]  desktop APUs are
-[1696.70 --> 1698.10]  getting idle power well
-[1698.10 --> 1700.22]  below 10 watts and
-[1700.22 --> 1700.72]  depending on the
-[1700.72 --> 1701.70]  motherboard as low
-[1701.70 --> 1702.52]  as six or seven
-[1702.52 --> 1702.92]  watts.
-[1703.44 --> 1704.16]  So it seems like
-[1704.16 --> 1704.72]  there's something to
-[1704.72 --> 1705.42]  watch there too.
-[1705.86 --> 1706.72]  Oh I'm trying to
-[1706.72 --> 1707.88]  avoid buying a Ryzen
-[1707.88 --> 1708.46]  5000.
-[1709.12 --> 1710.04]  I'm really trying to
-[1710.04 --> 1711.74]  avoid it but stuff
-[1711.74 --> 1713.06]  like that makes me
-[1713.06 --> 1713.96]  want to buy one.
-[1715.86 --> 1716.68]  Hey while we're doing
-[1716.68 --> 1717.30]  feedback I want to
-[1717.30 --> 1717.92]  take a moment and
-[1717.92 --> 1719.38]  mention that a cloud
-[1719.38 --> 1720.86]  guru has a Python 3
-[1720.86 --> 1722.18]  scripting course for
-[1722.18 --> 1723.08]  system administrators
-[1723.08 --> 1724.50]  where you can develop
-[1724.50 --> 1725.24]  the skills you need to
-[1725.24 --> 1725.98]  write effective and
-[1725.98 --> 1727.32]  powerful scripts and
-[1727.32 --> 1728.46]  create command line
-[1728.46 --> 1730.56]  tools using Python 3.
-[1730.56 --> 1731.18]  So in the course
-[1731.18 --> 1731.46]  you're going to
-[1731.46 --> 1732.02]  develop skills you
-[1732.02 --> 1732.36]  need to write
-[1732.36 --> 1732.88]  effective and
-[1732.88 --> 1733.54]  powerful Python
-[1733.54 --> 1734.90]  scripts and it's
-[1734.90 --> 1736.00]  it's a big one.
-[1736.10 --> 1736.50]  So beyond the
-[1736.50 --> 1737.24]  language itself you'll
-[1737.24 --> 1737.88]  go through the full
-[1737.88 --> 1738.62]  development process
-[1738.62 --> 1739.36]  including project
-[1739.36 --> 1740.12]  setup, planning,
-[1740.74 --> 1741.78]  automated testing to
-[1741.78 --> 1742.30]  build two different
-[1742.30 --> 1743.10]  command line tools and
-[1743.10 --> 1743.34]  more.
-[1743.82 --> 1744.46]  So check out the link
-[1744.46 --> 1745.20]  we'll have in the
-[1745.20 --> 1746.16]  show notes for the
-[1746.16 --> 1747.22]  Python 3 scripting for
-[1747.22 --> 1748.02]  system administrators
-[1748.02 --> 1749.52]  at cloudguru.com.
-[1750.90 --> 1751.94]  Hey so I'm sat here
-[1751.94 --> 1752.34]  whilst we were
-[1752.34 --> 1753.30]  recording and thought
-[1753.30 --> 1754.22]  my feet are cold.
-[1754.64 --> 1755.20]  So whilst you were
-[1755.20 --> 1756.28]  reading that ad spot
-[1756.28 --> 1757.56]  I logged into my
-[1757.56 --> 1758.20]  home assistant and
-[1758.20 --> 1758.86]  just bumped up the
-[1758.86 --> 1759.76]  thermostat a little bit.
-[1760.56 --> 1762.94]  It's nice isn't it?
-[1763.56 --> 1764.42]  Yep, yep.
-[1764.64 --> 1765.54]  I think my favorite
-[1765.54 --> 1767.66]  still is because of
-[1767.66 --> 1768.10]  the HomeKit
-[1768.10 --> 1769.76]  integration when I'm
-[1769.76 --> 1771.14]  driving home I just
-[1771.14 --> 1771.84]  push a button on the
-[1771.84 --> 1772.96]  steering wheel and I
-[1772.96 --> 1775.10]  tell the computer just
-[1775.10 --> 1776.26]  to turn on you know
-[1776.26 --> 1777.04]  the heaters to extra
-[1777.04 --> 1777.24]  heat.
-[1777.44 --> 1778.00]  We have an extra heat
-[1778.00 --> 1778.52]  mode that kind of
-[1778.52 --> 1779.06]  brings up the
-[1779.06 --> 1780.22]  temperature more a
-[1780.22 --> 1781.48]  little quicker and
-[1781.48 --> 1782.28]  so when I buy the
-[1782.28 --> 1782.84]  and turn on the
-[1782.84 --> 1783.10]  lights.
-[1783.44 --> 1783.96]  So when I get home
-[1783.96 --> 1784.78]  all the lights are on
-[1784.78 --> 1786.06]  place is nice and
-[1786.06 --> 1786.34]  toasty.
-[1786.34 --> 1788.68]  Oh I've been
-[1788.68 --> 1789.32]  thinking about like
-[1789.32 --> 1790.42]  an NFC tag on the
-[1790.42 --> 1791.16]  dashboard or something
-[1791.16 --> 1791.82]  that I could just
-[1791.82 --> 1792.62]  tap with my phone
-[1792.62 --> 1792.96]  maybe.
-[1793.66 --> 1794.68]  I haven't done it but
-[1794.68 --> 1795.22]  I've been thinking
-[1795.22 --> 1795.70]  about it.
-[1796.18 --> 1796.58]  I've been thinking
-[1796.58 --> 1797.14]  about that too.
-[1797.20 --> 1797.84]  I actually have an
-[1797.84 --> 1798.70]  NFC tag at the
-[1798.70 --> 1800.06]  door out the
-[1800.06 --> 1800.78]  studio so on my
-[1800.78 --> 1801.28]  way out the
-[1801.28 --> 1802.36]  studio I can tap it
-[1802.36 --> 1803.10]  and right now it
-[1803.10 --> 1803.70]  just kind of sends
-[1803.70 --> 1804.40]  like an alert to the
-[1804.40 --> 1805.86]  wife with an ETA
-[1805.86 --> 1807.04]  and all of that kind
-[1807.04 --> 1807.98]  of stuff you know
-[1807.98 --> 1808.82]  based on my location
-[1808.82 --> 1810.28]  and her location but
-[1810.28 --> 1810.96]  I have been thinking
-[1810.96 --> 1811.58]  man it'd be pretty
-[1811.58 --> 1812.98]  great to tie that in
-[1812.98 --> 1814.22]  with the heating and
-[1814.22 --> 1815.12]  the lighting check to
-[1815.12 --> 1815.72]  see if it's on or
-[1815.72 --> 1815.98]  not.
-[1816.54 --> 1817.80]  NFC tags and all of
-[1817.80 --> 1819.06]  that is probably still
-[1819.06 --> 1820.28]  the most underutilized
-[1820.28 --> 1821.62]  area because on iOS
-[1821.62 --> 1823.78]  it kind of sucks and I
-[1823.78 --> 1824.48]  think it's similar on
-[1824.48 --> 1825.22]  Android but not quite
-[1825.22 --> 1825.88]  the same where on
-[1825.88 --> 1827.26]  iOS it just brings up
-[1827.26 --> 1827.74]  as far as I
-[1827.74 --> 1828.62]  understand it a
-[1828.62 --> 1829.68]  notification prompt
-[1829.68 --> 1830.34]  that you then have to
-[1830.34 --> 1832.64]  tap to execute the
-[1832.64 --> 1834.46]  NFC automation and
-[1834.46 --> 1835.12]  that just sounds like
-[1835.12 --> 1835.52]  garbage.
-[1836.04 --> 1837.00]  Not true on Android I
-[1837.00 --> 1838.06]  just tap the tag and
-[1838.06 --> 1839.02]  my garage door opens
-[1839.02 --> 1839.58]  it's amazing.
-[1840.26 --> 1840.94]  That's what I want.
-[1841.34 --> 1842.32]  I can kind of see
-[1842.32 --> 1843.52]  maybe why Apple did it
-[1843.52 --> 1844.30]  this way for
-[1844.30 --> 1846.02]  novices who you
-[1846.02 --> 1846.76]  know they don't they
-[1846.76 --> 1847.46]  don't want to execute
-[1847.46 --> 1848.30]  stuff randomly on
-[1848.30 --> 1850.44]  their phone but man
-[1850.44 --> 1852.22]  I totally appreciate
-[1852.22 --> 1853.24]  that but I just would
-[1853.24 --> 1854.16]  love a setting to say
-[1854.16 --> 1855.28]  don't require user
-[1855.28 --> 1855.78]  interaction.
-[1856.12 --> 1856.22]  Yeah.
-[1856.34 --> 1857.38]  It just sort of kills
-[1857.38 --> 1857.78]  the usefulness.
-[1857.90 --> 1859.02]  I have also here on
-[1859.02 --> 1860.42]  the studio mixer I
-[1860.42 --> 1861.94]  have an NFC tag because
-[1861.94 --> 1862.74]  for some reason
-[1862.74 --> 1863.60]  Behringer thought it'd
-[1863.60 --> 1864.42]  be a great idea to put
-[1864.42 --> 1865.70]  a like a phone holder
-[1865.70 --> 1866.74]  on the mixer because
-[1866.74 --> 1867.46]  the ideas are going to
-[1867.46 --> 1867.84]  use like their
-[1867.84 --> 1868.78]  touchscreen app on your
-[1868.78 --> 1870.94]  phone and so I have a
-[1870.94 --> 1871.58]  spot where my phone
-[1871.58 --> 1873.88]  sits and I just put an
-[1873.88 --> 1874.80]  NFC tag in that spot
-[1874.80 --> 1875.86]  just set my phone to
-[1875.86 --> 1877.32]  D&D and turn on the
-[1877.32 --> 1878.24]  studio lights which are
-[1878.24 --> 1879.14]  on home assistant and
-[1879.14 --> 1879.66]  all that.
-[1880.66 --> 1881.44]  Oli wrote into the
-[1881.44 --> 1882.44]  holiday mailbag and
-[1882.44 --> 1883.16]  said I'm a long time
-[1883.16 --> 1883.98]  listener occasional
-[1883.98 --> 1885.22]  disc order from Norway
-[1885.22 --> 1886.88]  and we talk about
-[1886.88 --> 1887.58]  storage setups on the
-[1887.58 --> 1888.46]  show a little bit but
-[1888.46 --> 1889.14]  I'd love you to go into
-[1889.14 --> 1890.46]  some details with
-[1890.46 --> 1891.88]  setups ranging from
-[1891.88 --> 1892.70]  smaller setups to
-[1892.70 --> 1893.26]  bigger setups.
-[1893.74 --> 1894.10]  Do you have any
-[1894.10 --> 1895.18]  strategies deciding on
-[1895.18 --> 1896.66]  what you invest in?
-[1897.30 --> 1898.28]  My backups are going to
-[1898.28 --> 1899.44]  backblaze but I'm
-[1899.44 --> 1900.48]  rethinking things a little
-[1900.48 --> 1901.18]  bit and I think I want
-[1901.18 --> 1901.88]  more sane local
-[1901.88 --> 1903.16]  storage but I'm a
-[1903.16 --> 1903.84]  little put off at the
-[1903.84 --> 1904.18]  price.
-[1905.20 --> 1905.80]  What would be a sweet
-[1905.80 --> 1906.56]  spot in terms of
-[1906.56 --> 1908.00]  discs and storage for
-[1908.00 --> 1909.18]  about an 8 terabyte
-[1909.18 --> 1910.42]  media collection as
-[1910.42 --> 1910.94]  well as some more
-[1910.94 --> 1912.00]  personal media like
-[1912.00 --> 1913.26]  photos that I just
-[1913.26 --> 1914.02]  don't want to lose?
-[1914.42 --> 1915.02]  Any links would be
-[1915.02 --> 1915.44]  great too.
-[1915.84 --> 1916.78]  Man this question was
-[1916.78 --> 1917.76]  made for me wasn't it?
-[1917.88 --> 1919.00]  It really was.
-[1919.34 --> 1921.74]  So perfectmediaserver.com
-[1921.74 --> 1923.84]  first of all I think is
-[1923.84 --> 1925.14]  where I will send you in
-[1925.14 --> 1926.96]  the first instance to
-[1926.96 --> 1927.52]  look at the software
-[1927.52 --> 1928.20]  side of things.
-[1928.80 --> 1930.06]  I will be building up the
-[1930.06 --> 1931.04]  hardware recommendations
-[1931.04 --> 1932.12]  section of that site
-[1932.12 --> 1932.80]  over the next few
-[1932.80 --> 1935.06]  months but really I
-[1935.06 --> 1935.86]  would just take a look
-[1935.86 --> 1937.06]  at serverbuilds.net.
-[1937.38 --> 1938.82]  They have some amazing
-[1938.82 --> 1940.84]  used enterprise gear and
-[1940.84 --> 1942.06]  I know it's quite a US
-[1942.06 --> 1944.28]  centric website but you
-[1944.28 --> 1945.16]  can still get a lot of
-[1945.16 --> 1946.26]  good ideas about what to
-[1946.26 --> 1947.34]  use like QuickSync for
-[1947.34 --> 1949.08]  example that that came
-[1949.08 --> 1950.42]  from JDM the guy behind
-[1950.42 --> 1951.40]  that site who we've had on
-[1951.40 --> 1953.32]  the show before and just
-[1953.32 --> 1953.98]  take a look at what
-[1953.98 --> 1954.86]  they're doing and the
-[1954.86 --> 1956.12]  trends and the way the
-[1956.12 --> 1957.34]  industry is going with
-[1957.34 --> 1958.48]  what those guys are doing
-[1958.48 --> 1959.26]  over there at server
-[1959.26 --> 1961.32]  builds and I think you
-[1961.32 --> 1961.96]  can probably get away
-[1961.96 --> 1963.56]  with a fairly minimal
-[1963.56 --> 1964.38]  kind of setup.
-[1964.54 --> 1965.06]  So you've got 8
-[1965.06 --> 1966.16]  terabytes worth of stuff
-[1966.16 --> 1967.78]  you want to store so I
-[1967.78 --> 1969.16]  would buy a hard drive
-[1969.16 --> 1971.46]  that is at least 8
-[1971.46 --> 1972.78]  probably 10 or 12
-[1972.78 --> 1973.74]  terabytes so you've got a
-[1973.74 --> 1975.58]  bit of headroom and buy
-[1975.58 --> 1976.74]  a pair of them so that
-[1976.74 --> 1978.64]  you you know can have
-[1978.64 --> 1980.24]  full redundancy.
-[1981.12 --> 1981.92]  You're already using
-[1981.92 --> 1983.48]  Backblaze so you know
-[1983.48 --> 1985.48]  raid is not backup is a
-[1985.48 --> 1986.70]  very common phrase that
-[1986.70 --> 1987.60]  you'll hear people say.
-[1987.60 --> 1989.60]  Make sure that you have
-[1989.60 --> 1991.96]  everything duplicated in
-[1991.96 --> 1993.82]  at least two different
-[1993.82 --> 1994.82]  physical locations.
-[1995.50 --> 1996.56]  So even if that just
-[1996.56 --> 1998.84]  takes the form of you
-[1998.84 --> 1999.88]  know a USB hard drive
-[1999.88 --> 2000.48]  that you leave at your
-[2000.48 --> 2001.28]  parents house when you
-[2001.28 --> 2002.84]  go and see them one day
-[2002.84 --> 2005.38]  in the future who knows
-[2005.38 --> 2007.92]  you know the world is so
-[2007.92 --> 2009.00]  different right now but
-[2009.00 --> 2011.46]  if it's just a USB hard
-[2011.46 --> 2012.76]  drive in a drawer at a
-[2012.76 --> 2014.02]  parents house then that
-[2014.02 --> 2015.08]  will do the trick as well
-[2015.08 --> 2015.78]  you know in a lot of
-[2015.78 --> 2016.96]  situations unless you
-[2016.96 --> 2019.10]  have lots of media being
-[2019.10 --> 2019.98]  added all the time but
-[2019.98 --> 2020.66]  I don't think that's the
-[2020.66 --> 2021.58]  use case for a lot of
-[2021.58 --> 2021.80]  people.
-[2021.98 --> 2023.68]  I think most people those
-[2023.68 --> 2024.98]  kind of periodical backups
-[2024.98 --> 2026.90]  every three to six
-[2026.90 --> 2028.04]  months is probably
-[2028.04 --> 2028.70]  sufficient.
-[2029.78 --> 2032.52]  So build yourself you
-[2032.52 --> 2035.42]  know a small mini ITX
-[2035.42 --> 2037.80]  couple of bay box and
-[2037.80 --> 2039.62]  you know stick the
-[2039.62 --> 2040.82]  perfect media server stack
-[2040.82 --> 2041.60]  on there and you'll be
-[2041.60 --> 2042.02]  good to go.
-[2042.02 --> 2043.94]  Yeah thankfully eight
-[2043.94 --> 2045.02]  terabytes is a really
-[2045.02 --> 2046.86]  pretty pretty doable
-[2046.86 --> 2047.64]  problem to solve.
-[2048.14 --> 2048.86]  So you know of course
-[2048.86 --> 2049.60]  you want more than that
-[2049.60 --> 2050.34]  you're gonna you know at
-[2050.34 --> 2051.70]  least at least I'd say go
-[2051.70 --> 2053.28]  12 terabytes if not more
-[2053.28 --> 2054.74]  if you already are using
-[2054.74 --> 2056.34]  eight terabytes and you
-[2056.34 --> 2056.90]  could probably even
-[2056.90 --> 2058.84]  justify a bit more than
-[2058.84 --> 2059.06]  that.
-[2059.48 --> 2060.54]  That's some great strategy
-[2060.54 --> 2061.70]  advice right there and
-[2061.70 --> 2062.74]  perfect timing for the
-[2062.74 --> 2064.54]  show too so so best of
-[2064.54 --> 2064.78]  luck.
-[2065.12 --> 2066.20]  I would take a look at
-[2066.20 --> 2069.04]  amazon.de quite often
-[2069.04 --> 2070.94]  have the Western Digital
-[2070.94 --> 2072.28]  what are they called
-[2072.28 --> 2072.68]  over there?
-[2072.98 --> 2073.80]  They're not easy stores
-[2073.80 --> 2074.62]  because they're Best Buy
-[2074.62 --> 2075.74]  like US centric ones
-[2075.74 --> 2077.66]  they're called MyBooks I
-[2077.66 --> 2078.74]  think in Europe.
-[2079.30 --> 2080.66]  You can quite often get
-[2080.66 --> 2082.50]  those for a you know 10
-[2082.50 --> 2084.06]  12 14 terabyte hard drive
-[2084.06 --> 2086.34]  in the 200 250 euro
-[2086.34 --> 2088.16]  range so that would be a
-[2088.16 --> 2089.14]  good place to start it's
-[2089.14 --> 2089.72]  not going to be super
-[2089.72 --> 2090.08]  cheap.
-[2090.74 --> 2092.76]  My philosophy with regards
-[2092.76 --> 2094.84]  to how much local storage
-[2094.84 --> 2096.58]  do I need versus cloud is
-[2096.58 --> 2099.36]  it's up to you right it's
-[2099.36 --> 2101.42]  it's your personal risk
-[2101.42 --> 2103.28]  profile or and how
-[2103.28 --> 2104.84]  important is this data to
-[2104.84 --> 2105.14]  you?
-[2106.04 --> 2106.82]  Are you going to be upset
-[2106.82 --> 2108.44]  if if backblaze and I
-[2108.44 --> 2108.86]  don't know if they're
-[2108.86 --> 2110.28]  going to but if they turn
-[2110.28 --> 2111.60]  around next week and you
-[2111.60 --> 2112.76]  know triple their prices
-[2112.76 --> 2113.36]  what are you going to do
-[2113.36 --> 2114.02]  if that happens?
-[2115.02 --> 2116.16]  If you have a hard drive
-[2116.16 --> 2118.54]  in your closet you know
-[2118.54 --> 2120.40]  up front what that cost is
-[2120.40 --> 2121.20]  going to be what the total
-[2121.20 --> 2122.22]  cost of ownership for that
-[2122.22 --> 2124.10]  that storage is going to be
-[2124.10 --> 2125.04]  and there's there'll be no
-[2125.04 --> 2126.10]  surprises or anything like
-[2126.10 --> 2127.72]  that so I mean you're
-[2127.72 --> 2128.38]  talking to a guy that's got
-[2128.38 --> 2129.36]  100 terabytes in his
-[2129.36 --> 2130.42]  basement so maybe I'm not
-[2130.42 --> 2132.26]  the right guy to speak to
-[2132.26 --> 2132.88]  you know.
-[2133.14 --> 2134.12]  And the other guy who's
-[2134.12 --> 2134.84]  like I need to get more
-[2134.84 --> 2135.88]  disk as fast as possible
-[2135.88 --> 2136.96]  I've only got 12 terabytes
-[2136.96 --> 2138.94]  free right now like yeah
-[2138.94 --> 2141.46]  yeah but really there's so
-[2141.46 --> 2143.56]  many ways to solve it but
-[2143.56 --> 2144.58]  I'd love to hear what you
-[2144.58 --> 2145.78]  do so go to self-hosted
-[2145.78 --> 2146.90]  dot show slash contact to
-[2146.90 --> 2148.50]  update us and then Scott
-[2148.50 --> 2149.32]  wrote in with another
-[2149.32 --> 2150.90]  another question I have a
-[2150.90 --> 2152.14]  sense the audience may have
-[2152.14 --> 2153.30]  a few answers for us so
-[2153.30 --> 2154.42]  keep that contact link in
-[2154.42 --> 2155.88]  mind he says I was hoping
-[2155.88 --> 2156.52]  you could make a
-[2156.52 --> 2158.00]  recommendation for self-hosted
-[2158.00 --> 2160.60]  online cookbook my mother
-[2160.60 --> 2162.34]  has a huge cookbook full of
-[2162.34 --> 2164.48]  old family recipes which I
-[2164.48 --> 2165.52]  would like to digitalize
-[2165.52 --> 2168.16]  ideally with OCR and the
-[2168.16 --> 2169.44]  ability to take and search
-[2169.44 --> 2170.48]  the recipes as well as
-[2170.48 --> 2172.00]  preserving original image of
-[2172.00 --> 2173.36]  the old handwritten family
-[2173.36 --> 2175.60]  recipe Scott I love this
-[2175.60 --> 2177.32]  idea what do you think
-[2177.32 --> 2178.70]  Alex has anything come to
-[2178.70 --> 2180.12]  mind for you well we
-[2180.12 --> 2181.68]  covered chow down a little
-[2181.68 --> 2183.40]  while ago as a self-hosted
-[2183.40 --> 2185.26]  recipes app there is another
-[2185.26 --> 2186.98]  one which whilst we're doing
-[2186.98 --> 2188.44]  this segment I will try and
-[2188.44 --> 2190.02]  find which I can't remember
-[2190.02 --> 2191.86]  right now but there is also
-[2191.86 --> 2194.22]  an old JB project isn't it
-[2194.22 --> 2196.26]  yeah that's true that is true
-[2196.26 --> 2198.56]  there is the the open your
-[2198.56 --> 2200.30]  mouth recipes which we
-[2200.30 --> 2201.56]  actually used GitHub and
-[2201.56 --> 2203.30]  Markdown for those I was
-[2203.30 --> 2204.18]  thinking you know Scott could
-[2204.18 --> 2206.54]  get started with even out any
-[2206.54 --> 2207.96]  without any software selected
-[2207.96 --> 2209.36]  yet by just getting good
-[2209.36 --> 2212.26]  quality captures of those cards
-[2212.26 --> 2213.84]  and he's gonna want probably
-[2213.84 --> 2214.98]  something he can take over to
-[2214.98 --> 2216.90]  grandma's house or mom's house
-[2216.90 --> 2219.98]  or whoever whoever the the
-[2219.98 --> 2220.70]  family members you want to
-[2220.70 --> 2221.60]  capture these from because why
-[2221.60 --> 2223.14]  not get them all right you
-[2223.14 --> 2224.50]  could probably get away with
-[2224.50 --> 2226.56]  something like scan bot or the
-[2226.56 --> 2229.16]  other available scanning apps on
-[2229.16 --> 2230.02]  your phone but you might look
-[2230.02 --> 2231.10]  into scanner options too and
-[2231.10 --> 2232.80]  just start there start getting the
-[2232.80 --> 2234.86]  high quality images from there and
-[2234.86 --> 2237.06]  then the software will come I
-[2237.06 --> 2238.60]  found it okay it's called
-[2238.60 --> 2243.70]  vapeen 1111 slash recipes what a
-[2243.70 --> 2245.68]  catchy name huh it's a Django
-[2245.68 --> 2247.26]  application designed for managing
-[2247.26 --> 2249.96]  recipes and it's a web app so I
-[2249.96 --> 2251.56]  would imagine it runs out of a
-[2251.56 --> 2253.52]  container but it's got a search
-[2253.52 --> 2256.26]  built on top of Django's trigram
-[2256.26 --> 2259.24]  similarity search engine and it
-[2259.24 --> 2260.72]  allows you to create and search for
-[2260.72 --> 2263.28]  tags and assign them in batches to
-[2263.28 --> 2264.64]  certain files matching certain
-[2264.64 --> 2266.90]  criteria it will sync with both
-[2266.90 --> 2269.80]  dropbox and next cloud with more
-[2269.80 --> 2271.62]  support being added every every
-[2271.62 --> 2273.96]  week and you can import lots of
-[2273.96 --> 2275.72]  recipes from different websites
-[2275.72 --> 2278.14]  with JSON objects and stuff like
-[2278.14 --> 2279.94]  that and there are also apps for
-[2279.94 --> 2281.52]  mobile devices like phones and
-[2281.52 --> 2283.96]  tablets so yeah lots and lots of
-[2283.96 --> 2285.80]  stuff in there runs in a docker
-[2285.80 --> 2289.38]  this is what the reddit collective
-[2289.38 --> 2292.98]  thought recommends at the moment so I
-[2292.98 --> 2294.56]  haven't tried this one I just
-[2294.56 --> 2295.72]  haven't got to it but it's on my
-[2295.72 --> 2297.00]  short list so go and take a look at
-[2297.00 --> 2299.10]  that link in the show notes I also
-[2299.10 --> 2302.16]  recall that groceries had a bit of a
-[2302.16 --> 2304.12]  recipe manager I don't recall how
-[2304.12 --> 2306.76]  extensive it was but that's a past
-[2306.76 --> 2308.92]  pick too so we'll put links to all of
-[2308.92 --> 2310.06]  these the one that Alex just talked
-[2310.06 --> 2312.02]  about you could see the example of
-[2312.02 --> 2313.34]  how we used open your mouth on
-[2313.34 --> 2315.08]  github and just made it a community
-[2315.08 --> 2316.30]  project so you could have multiple
-[2316.30 --> 2317.78]  family members that contribute that
-[2317.78 --> 2320.02]  way or perhaps somebody out there will
-[2320.02 --> 2322.34]  know a great software project that we
-[2322.34 --> 2323.86]  haven't mentioned and inform us all
-[2323.86 --> 2325.40]  itself posted that show slash contact
-[2325.40 --> 2327.58]  the last one in our holiday
-[2327.58 --> 2329.82]  extravaganza mailbag here is a jasua
-[2329.82 --> 2332.90]  writes in regarding thoughts that were
-[2332.90 --> 2334.84]  inspired by self hosted episode 33
-[2334.84 --> 2337.58]  triggered by the helio 64 discussion he
-[2337.58 --> 2338.92]  says hey guys I was listening to your
-[2338.92 --> 2340.82]  review of the helio 64 with some
-[2340.82 --> 2342.38]  interest since I am the owner of their
-[2342.38 --> 2344.86]  previous product the helios for I
-[2345.56 --> 2346.92]  believe the points you make about
-[2346.92 --> 2348.84]  software are quite valid yet I'd like to
-[2348.84 --> 2350.46]  point out that there's a really hard
-[2350.46 --> 2353.02]  problem to solve I work personally with
-[2353.02 --> 2355.40]  a company in Israel that makes SBCs and
-[2355.40 --> 2358.62]  SOMs mostly with ARM based system on
-[2358.62 --> 2361.06]  chips it's my job to make Debian
-[2361.06 --> 2362.76]  available for each product to their
-[2362.76 --> 2365.62]  customers long ago when I started I
-[2365.62 --> 2367.12]  really wanted to do this the right way
-[2367.12 --> 2369.14]  I submitted bug reports and patches to
-[2369.14 --> 2370.50]  the Debian project for enabling all
-[2370.50 --> 2373.04]  kinds of small things a kernel.config for
-[2373.04 --> 2374.68]  a driver here a customized boot script
-[2374.68 --> 2377.12]  there enabling open GL ES backends and
-[2377.12 --> 2379.88]  shared libraries and continuously watching
-[2379.88 --> 2382.42]  and testing the distributions for things
-[2382.42 --> 2385.04]  that break turns out I never got to the
-[2385.04 --> 2386.78]  point where I could give customers a
-[2386.78 --> 2388.64]  pure Debian system there's always
-[2388.64 --> 2390.54]  another tweak that I had to carry out
-[2390.54 --> 2392.78]  of tree so to this day I'm creating
-[2392.78 --> 2394.54]  block device images with custom kernel
-[2394.54 --> 2397.54]  packages integrated binary blobs and
-[2397.54 --> 2398.96]  maybe a systemd service for loading
-[2398.96 --> 2401.12]  Bluetooth firmware and even patch parts
-[2401.12 --> 2404.06]  of X or Wayland so why do I tell you
-[2404.06 --> 2406.10]  all of this well the reason being for a
-[2406.10 --> 2407.74]  new product it takes time and
-[2407.74 --> 2410.10]  continued effort for mainlining all the
-[2410.10 --> 2411.94]  things and the experience can differ
-[2411.94 --> 2414.38]  largely by a particular SoC in your
-[2414.38 --> 2416.64]  hands and you'll find that despite even
-[2416.64 --> 2417.84]  when the vendor does everything right
-[2417.84 --> 2420.14]  it's still not perfect to really solve
-[2420.14 --> 2421.48]  this problem there has to be a way for
-[2421.48 --> 2423.14]  hardware makers who are both capable and
-[2423.14 --> 2424.76]  willing to do the work to achieve
-[2424.76 --> 2426.26]  something greater than what I was able
-[2426.26 --> 2429.18]  to do in my job in his opinion it's just
-[2429.18 --> 2430.74]  not there yet he says Alex that the
-[2430.74 --> 2433.64]  ecosystem just can't support the kind of
-[2433.64 --> 2435.64]  rapid support that the hardware needs at
-[2435.64 --> 2437.38]  this stage and you know after reading
-[2437.38 --> 2439.46]  this I was thinking look at the
-[2439.46 --> 2441.98]  Raspberry Pi it's been around forever
-[2441.98 --> 2443.34]  and of course they've had iterations
-[2443.34 --> 2445.26]  that have changed things but you really
-[2445.26 --> 2447.82]  still even there you kind of have to get
-[2447.82 --> 2451.38]  an image that's at least been tested
-[2451.38 --> 2453.58]  for the Raspberry Pi you can now get the
-[2453.58 --> 2455.68]  Ubuntu ARM image and it will boot on the
-[2455.68 --> 2457.98]  Raspberry Pi but that's only just recently
-[2457.98 --> 2459.96]  it's and it's really not there with all
-[2459.96 --> 2462.10]  distros yeah you make a good point I
-[2462.10 --> 2464.76]  mean the Ubuntu image for the Pi 4 has
-[2464.76 --> 2466.96]  made a big difference for me to the
-[2466.96 --> 2468.94]  overall kind of feel of it being a real
-[2468.94 --> 2472.34]  air quotes a real device and it's now in
-[2472.34 --> 2474.22]  production for me I'm using it as Pi KVM
-[2474.22 --> 2476.76]  which ironically runs on Arch but anyway
-[2476.76 --> 2479.56]  yeah I agree with you I mean I ended up
-[2479.56 --> 2481.50]  getting ZFS working on the Helios 64
-[2481.50 --> 2484.66]  after the review in the end it was a few
-[2484.66 --> 2486.56]  days it was a kernel update and DKMS
-[2486.56 --> 2489.50]  started working again but yeah I just
-[2489.50 --> 2492.50]  don't know how without you know an
-[2492.50 --> 2494.58]  Apple level of control over both the
-[2494.58 --> 2496.54]  hardware and software you could ever hope
-[2496.54 --> 2499.98]  to solve this problem fully slow but
-[2499.98 --> 2501.82]  steady there are standards like server
-[2501.82 --> 2505.38]  ready that try to solve this more for the
-[2505.38 --> 2507.40]  data center but those lessons could be
-[2507.40 --> 2508.94]  learned in the consumer devices but
-[2508.94 --> 2511.30]  there's just not necessarily the vendor
-[2511.30 --> 2513.42]  buy-in and there's not necessarily the
-[2513.42 --> 2515.26]  vendor buy-in to support the development
-[2515.26 --> 2516.66]  right that's an area where they could
-[2516.66 --> 2518.58]  apply a little bit of leverage they could
-[2518.58 --> 2520.50]  hire people to just write the code and
-[2520.50 --> 2522.12]  contribute it more and participate in
-[2522.12 --> 2525.34]  these projects but it's only it's only so
-[2525.34 --> 2528.40]  scalable and it's really not a problem we
-[2528.40 --> 2531.76]  have on the x86 side of things we're so
-[2531.76 --> 2534.70]  kind of swept up by the power usage of arm
-[2534.70 --> 2538.06]  or the small size form factor or the price
-[2538.06 --> 2540.84]  point I think we forget some of the
-[2540.84 --> 2542.68]  luxuries that we've gained over the years
-[2542.68 --> 2545.04]  with the x86 platform it just works you
-[2545.04 --> 2546.24]  don't have to think about it you don't
-[2546.24 --> 2550.18]  have to grab a special version of a linux
-[2550.18 --> 2553.12]  distro or windows or whatever it is to
-[2553.12 --> 2556.46]  to run on it and with apple changing to
-[2556.46 --> 2560.16]  arm you know based cpus it is that's the
-[2560.16 --> 2561.84]  first real departure that mainstream
-[2561.84 --> 2565.72]  computing has seen from x86 instruction
-[2565.72 --> 2568.78]  sets for 15 years yep and I think that's
-[2568.78 --> 2572.36]  going to influence hopefully in five years
-[2572.36 --> 2574.82]  time or so the rest of the industry will
-[2574.82 --> 2576.60]  will be in a similar position to where
-[2576.60 --> 2578.30]  apple are now with that kind of level of
-[2578.30 --> 2580.82]  integration of course apple will be five
-[2580.82 --> 2582.44]  years further down the road by then so
-[2582.44 --> 2584.42]  who knows maybe they'll never catch up
-[2584.42 --> 2587.32]  but it's a really interesting time for
-[2587.32 --> 2590.08]  sure and I really want to support these
-[2590.08 --> 2593.20]  guys doing these projects like like
-[2593.20 --> 2596.06]  COBOL you know they're a small team you
-[2596.06 --> 2597.24]  know they're not they're not doing this
-[2597.24 --> 2599.04]  to become millionaires overnight you know
-[2599.04 --> 2600.70]  it's they're doing it for the love I'm
-[2600.70 --> 2603.22]  sure and they made a really great
-[2603.22 --> 2605.10]  product it just missed in a few key areas
-[2605.10 --> 2607.22]  so I wanted to let some of the listeners
-[2607.22 --> 2611.36]  know that I will be selling my Helios 64
-[2611.36 --> 2613.50]  so if you're interested in the market just
-[2613.50 --> 2615.82]  let me know via Twitter you know you'd
-[2615.82 --> 2616.88]  have to wait for it to ship or anything
-[2616.88 --> 2618.78]  for the next batch we'll sort something
-[2618.78 --> 2620.32]  out just leave a little stink on it when
-[2620.32 --> 2621.58]  you ship it out let's make it real
-[2621.58 --> 2623.84]  special okay get a little bit of your
-[2623.84 --> 2626.00]  stink on there I'll sign the inside in
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+[0.08 --> 2.50]  Today's episode is a really exciting one for me.
+[3.06 --> 5.70]  It's the culmination of five years' work.
+[6.00 --> 9.66]  The perfect media server is now, well, I'll save it for the show.
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+[15.00 --> 17.50]  Well, Alex, I'll admit it right here on the show,
+[17.66 --> 20.66]  I set up yet another SyncThing server this weekend.
+[21.00 --> 23.54]  You thought you'd leave 2020 behind in style, hey?
+[24.10 --> 25.86]  I wanted more speed, Alex.
+[25.92 --> 29.58]  Actually, it really came down to me doing the math and realizing,
+[29.58 --> 33.92]  hey, you know, when I switch networks, it kind of slows the syncing down.
+[34.28 --> 37.02]  But if I can pull from multiple Sync servers,
+[37.62 --> 40.64]  it kind of makes up for it and goes even faster in ideal situations.
+[40.80 --> 44.58]  So I thought, why not set up a SyncThing server on Linode
+[44.58 --> 47.80]  and just sync a small select stuff that I really want to move fast?
+[48.56 --> 51.10]  And it legit works. It's really nice.
+[51.76 --> 54.52]  It's like doubles the amount of files that can be transferred at once, too,
+[55.02 --> 56.88]  from what I can tell in my brief testing.
+[56.88 --> 59.64]  I'll be honest, I haven't continued with SyncThing
+[59.64 --> 61.62]  after we talked about it a couple of episodes ago.
+[61.96 --> 62.80]  It just doesn't work for me.
+[62.88 --> 64.58]  It just doesn't do it, I'm afraid.
+[64.84 --> 66.16]  But I'm glad it's working for you.
+[66.54 --> 67.86]  You're a hater. I understand.
+[68.30 --> 69.46]  I understand. I understand.
+[69.64 --> 71.16]  I love it.
+[71.52 --> 80.10]  I think 2020 is the year that I stepped into a long-term relationship with SyncThing.
+[80.10 --> 84.18]  And it's not like I'm working on files super quick
+[84.18 --> 85.54]  and I want to move it between machines
+[85.54 --> 88.42]  and I want to edit a file upstairs and then walk down into the studio
+[88.42 --> 90.06]  and have that file on my desktop.
+[90.68 --> 94.26]  It may be able to serve that function, but I've learned not to expect that.
+[94.58 --> 97.28]  The one caveat I do have with SyncThing
+[97.28 --> 99.94]  is you've got to let it go at its own pace.
+[100.22 --> 101.46]  You've got to let it go at its own pace.
+[101.96 --> 103.56]  And that's why I love online learning, too.
+[103.62 --> 106.04]  And this episode is brought to you by the all-new A Cloud Guru,
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+[117.02 --> 119.14]  Well, Alex, I think we should start the show today by,
+[119.38 --> 121.34]  well, maybe we started by talking about SyncThing,
+[121.44 --> 125.76]  but now we should start talking about a project in various forms, at least,
+[125.82 --> 127.96]  you've been working on for about five years.
+[128.16 --> 132.92]  And I think, if I'm not wrong, it's like about to reach its ultimate form.
+[133.32 --> 134.06]  Perhaps, yeah.
+[134.06 --> 136.58]  Well, I mean, as we record, it's still 2020,
+[136.90 --> 139.58]  but I think this is going to come out on New Year's morning.
+[139.76 --> 141.34]  So Happy New Year, everybody.
+[141.78 --> 142.74]  Welcome to 2021.
+[143.20 --> 146.12]  Hopefully, it's more prosperous than the last one was.
+[146.62 --> 149.02]  We're talking about my perfect media server project.
+[149.26 --> 152.64]  So this was something that, when I was involved with linuxserver.io,
+[152.80 --> 159.12]  that actually helped me kind of form the direction for that site
+[159.12 --> 160.60]  and the blog and stuff like that.
+[160.60 --> 169.48]  So on the 2nd of February 2016, I wrote a post about what I called the perfect media server,
+[169.66 --> 171.56]  for want of a better name, and it's kind of stuck now.
+[171.96 --> 174.70]  It's bold, but now you've kind of become the perfect media server guy.
+[174.94 --> 176.08]  Yeah, I guess so.
+[176.92 --> 179.06]  You know, I've toyed with changing the name a few times,
+[179.18 --> 181.18]  but enough people have seen it.
+[181.44 --> 182.64]  And, you know, I've looked at the analytics,
+[182.64 --> 185.88]  and a lot of people have read that post over the years.
+[187.16 --> 189.16]  In fact, funnily enough, when I moved to Raleigh,
+[189.22 --> 191.54]  one of my closest friends now, who's also called Alex,
+[192.16 --> 194.92]  he joined Linux server originally.
+[195.14 --> 196.52]  He's now one of the Linux server devs.
+[196.74 --> 200.36]  He joined that website because he read my perfect media server post.
+[200.90 --> 203.62]  And so when I came to town, like, he met up with me,
+[203.66 --> 205.90]  and we had a few beers and stuff like that.
+[205.90 --> 209.22]  And he was so excited to tell me that he'd built one as well around,
+[209.30 --> 213.68]  you know, Docker and Snap Raid and Merger FS and all this kind of stuff.
+[213.82 --> 217.72]  So it's been a really cool thing to share with the world.
+[218.26 --> 221.88]  Well, you also got a great domain name for it, perfectmediaserver.com.
+[221.98 --> 222.78]  Is that new?
+[223.12 --> 223.96]  Brand new, yes.
+[224.30 --> 228.98]  I, well, when I say brand new, I mean, I bought it in June.
+[228.98 --> 238.52]  I've been promising a 2020 version of this article for rather longer than I would like.
+[238.82 --> 243.58]  So I released one in 2016, another one in 17, and another one in 19.
+[244.06 --> 246.66]  And, you know, when you start thinking about what can I write about
+[246.66 --> 249.70]  with these perfect media servers,
+[249.96 --> 253.72]  when everything is just so reliable and just works,
+[254.78 --> 256.46]  there comes a limit when you think,
+[256.46 --> 260.10]  well, I can't really rehash the same thing again and again.
+[261.38 --> 264.78]  And so this time I was looking at the three posts.
+[265.08 --> 267.74]  And since I'm no longer involved with Linux server,
+[267.92 --> 271.06]  I don't have access to edit those blog posts easily anymore.
+[271.22 --> 273.48]  I mean, I can ask the team to fix things and stuff,
+[273.64 --> 276.32]  but invariably information goes out of date.
+[276.66 --> 280.18]  And I am a huge advocate of open source
+[280.18 --> 284.56]  and community contributions and wikis and all that kind of stuff.
+[284.56 --> 288.18]  And so I just thought that this would make much more sense
+[288.18 --> 293.38]  as a kind of a wiki type website with first class search categories,
+[293.72 --> 296.22]  walking people through how to do things,
+[296.28 --> 298.10]  you know, in a step-by-step kind of fashion,
+[298.38 --> 302.30]  and then leave the blog posts as kind of like an annual opinion piece
+[302.30 --> 305.50]  alongside this more kind of dry,
+[305.68 --> 309.80]  technical wiki style website at perfectmediaserver.com.
+[309.80 --> 311.18]  Okay, that makes a lot of sense.
+[311.74 --> 315.86]  And I think probably the real value for people to understand is
+[315.86 --> 318.64]  you're telling people there's a lot of options out there,
+[318.74 --> 320.82]  but maybe this is a great stack to use.
+[320.88 --> 321.78]  You can use this stack.
+[321.88 --> 322.60]  I've tested this.
+[322.68 --> 329.54]  I've refined it over the years to do really a beyond just okay media setup,
+[329.58 --> 330.74]  but a great home media setup.
+[330.96 --> 333.76]  And instead of saying, oh, there's so many use cases
+[333.76 --> 336.54]  or the answer, which is frequently it depends,
+[336.98 --> 338.60]  you make some opinionated decisions
+[338.60 --> 341.12]  and kind of point people in a direction
+[341.12 --> 342.34]  and then lay out how to do it.
+[342.66 --> 345.88]  And I think that's maybe, for me, the real value of the site.
+[345.88 --> 348.98]  I think as well, a lot of people come to Linux,
+[349.04 --> 350.34]  and I've said this before on the show,
+[350.94 --> 353.70]  a lot of people come to Linux not through the desktop,
+[354.14 --> 356.34]  but through Plex,
+[356.62 --> 358.90]  through running headless apps on a Synology
+[358.90 --> 360.88]  or a Raspberry Pi or something like that.
+[360.88 --> 364.54]  And once you start having a box in your house
+[364.54 --> 367.46]  that does everything 24 hours a day,
+[367.62 --> 369.16]  that is on 24 hours a day,
+[369.58 --> 370.82]  you think, what else could I do with it?
+[371.04 --> 374.04]  And that single spark is a huge rabbit hole.
+[374.20 --> 377.12]  And I think one of my primary goals with the site
+[377.12 --> 379.38]  is to equip those newer people
+[379.38 --> 383.74]  with the skills that they need to install Ubuntu,
+[384.82 --> 385.94]  set up MergerFS,
+[386.48 --> 388.16]  figure out what an FS tab is,
+[388.16 --> 391.02]  and not be intimidated by, you know,
+[391.22 --> 396.10]  wading through lots of different disparate documentation
+[396.10 --> 397.94]  across different places on the internet.
+[398.04 --> 399.22]  It's just all in one place.
+[399.88 --> 402.78]  And if you want to have multiple hard drives
+[402.78 --> 405.32]  in a single box that are of mismatched sizes
+[405.32 --> 406.80]  with different file systems,
+[407.24 --> 408.58]  well, here's a solution for you.
+[409.10 --> 410.70]  You've already got data on these drives.
+[410.78 --> 411.88]  You don't want to do RAID.
+[412.22 --> 413.04]  Great, cool.
+[413.14 --> 414.66]  Come along and join the party.
+[414.66 --> 416.62]  Yeah, and honestly,
+[416.92 --> 418.98]  it's a lot of the stack that we talk about frequently.
+[419.34 --> 420.58]  You talk about Docker,
+[420.76 --> 422.34]  kind of some of the background in there,
+[422.40 --> 423.02]  how to get it going.
+[423.34 --> 425.12]  And you work your way up through
+[425.12 --> 426.76]  how to manage multiple disks
+[426.76 --> 427.88]  of different sizes, like you say.
+[427.96 --> 428.54]  But then also,
+[429.08 --> 430.32]  if you want to go ZFS,
+[430.70 --> 433.78]  and here's also a Proxmox layer you should consider,
+[434.68 --> 436.44]  any one of those could be broken out
+[436.44 --> 438.42]  and really have nothing to do
+[438.42 --> 440.30]  with building a media server.
+[440.64 --> 442.28]  So it's kind of valuable in that way too, I suppose.
+[442.28 --> 444.00]  So I mentioned that just for the audience
+[444.00 --> 446.02]  who's not interested in building a media server,
+[446.16 --> 449.04]  but does want to learn more about Docker
+[449.04 --> 452.36]  or MergerFS or SnapRate or ZFS or Proxmox
+[452.36 --> 454.88]  or hardware, any of that kind of stack,
+[454.96 --> 456.24]  stuff we talk about on this show
+[456.24 --> 458.16]  and you want to read something from Alex on it,
+[458.68 --> 459.52]  you can find it there too.
+[459.66 --> 462.42]  And I could totally have seen a guy like me,
+[463.24 --> 465.10]  maybe if I was building my media server setup
+[465.10 --> 465.90]  for the first time,
+[466.22 --> 467.18]  I'd be thinking, okay,
+[467.24 --> 468.52]  I know I want to use containers,
+[468.70 --> 470.00]  but I don't quite know how
+[470.00 --> 472.60]  and in what way to use them to do this right.
+[473.24 --> 474.52]  I know about MergerFS,
+[474.80 --> 476.42]  but I don't know how to deploy it.
+[476.52 --> 478.62]  And so having you write something,
+[479.52 --> 481.04]  having used this stuff in production
+[481.04 --> 482.16]  for five years now,
+[482.70 --> 484.16]  there's value to that.
+[484.46 --> 486.08]  So you should be the perfect media server guy.
+[486.56 --> 487.88]  I think that's, I said good on you.
+[488.20 --> 490.02]  You be the perfect media server guy
+[490.02 --> 492.84]  because I endorse this media server build here.
+[492.94 --> 494.80]  You are, Chris, and you support this message.
+[495.04 --> 496.08]  I wonder what the cost is.
+[496.12 --> 496.92]  Have you thought about that?
+[496.92 --> 499.44]  Have you thought about like what the cost would be
+[499.44 --> 502.38]  for a minimal build of something from this guide?
+[502.64 --> 503.58]  Well, in terms of hardware?
+[504.60 --> 505.58]  Yeah, in terms of hardware.
+[506.00 --> 507.66]  I think QuickSync now for me
+[507.66 --> 509.50]  is a minimum price of entry
+[509.50 --> 511.54]  after everything we talked about in the last episode.
+[512.24 --> 515.04]  So a hundred bucks for a CPU.
+[515.76 --> 517.32]  You can probably find a used motherboard
+[517.32 --> 518.82]  that will do the trick for a hundred dollars.
+[519.02 --> 520.74]  Again, RAM is about a hundred.
+[521.44 --> 522.66]  And then hard drives.
+[522.74 --> 524.00]  For an eight terabyte hard drive now,
+[524.00 --> 525.30]  you can go to Best Buy and pick one up
+[525.30 --> 528.14]  for around 130, 140.
+[528.58 --> 529.86]  So I don't know.
+[529.92 --> 531.86]  Let's say 140.
+[532.88 --> 533.42]  What's that?
+[533.50 --> 537.14]  It's like $1,100 or so for hard drives.
+[538.06 --> 538.86]  I don't know, $1,500.
+[539.60 --> 541.44]  I think all in would get you
+[541.44 --> 543.58]  five, eight terabyte drives
+[543.58 --> 545.00]  of 40 terabytes of storage
+[545.00 --> 548.28]  for $1,500 all in.
+[548.28 --> 550.92]  And you own it forever.
+[551.68 --> 552.54]  It's, you know, you're not,
+[553.40 --> 555.10]  I mean, Synology make a great product.
+[555.20 --> 557.68]  So do QNAP and Unraid's also great,
+[557.78 --> 558.82]  but it's not open source.
+[559.68 --> 562.50]  Free NAS requires learning ZFS,
+[563.16 --> 565.72]  which I know I talk about in Perfect Media Server,
+[565.82 --> 569.94]  but it's kind of orthogonal to the main content.
+[570.06 --> 571.82]  It's not required learning.
+[571.98 --> 574.44]  Whereas with a True NAS or a Free NAS product,
+[574.66 --> 575.24]  it is.
+[575.24 --> 578.50]  It's just the most flexible thing for most people.
+[578.64 --> 581.32]  And I think when you start looking at
+[581.32 --> 582.86]  putting together one of these servers,
+[583.00 --> 585.80]  $1,500 isn't a small upfront investment.
+[586.00 --> 586.50]  And you think, right,
+[586.56 --> 587.84]  well, where can I cut some costs?
+[587.94 --> 590.64]  And the obvious answer is the hard drives.
+[591.06 --> 592.60]  You know, rather than buying five,
+[592.70 --> 594.58]  let's only buy a couple, right?
+[594.60 --> 596.90]  And then I'll add the other three
+[596.90 --> 598.12]  over the next year or two.
+[598.90 --> 600.20]  MergerFS lets me do that.
+[600.28 --> 603.40]  It lets me add drives as my collection grows
+[603.40 --> 607.60]  without having to re-silver a ZFS array
+[607.60 --> 611.40]  or rebuild a RAID setup or anything like that.
+[611.44 --> 613.36]  It just grows as I do,
+[613.42 --> 614.66]  and it changes and matures.
+[615.00 --> 616.66]  And because it's just Linux,
+[617.00 --> 620.16]  it's open and I can go and tinker
+[620.16 --> 621.52]  as deep as I want under the hood.
+[621.90 --> 623.40]  Or again, because it's Linux,
+[623.56 --> 624.96]  it will just work.
+[625.04 --> 625.76]  It's just reliable.
+[626.02 --> 628.16]  It's battle-tested and hardened everywhere.
+[628.16 --> 632.58]  So I really do think that if you're willing
+[632.58 --> 636.34]  to put the time in and learn a little bit of this stuff
+[636.34 --> 638.92]  with the information that's provided here for you,
+[639.12 --> 640.10]  for free, I might add,
+[640.14 --> 641.76]  I don't make a penny off of this stuff.
+[642.20 --> 643.62]  Anyway, I never have.
+[643.68 --> 644.90]  I just wanted to give this information
+[644.90 --> 645.90]  back to the community.
+[646.76 --> 648.72]  I don't think there's a better solution, really,
+[648.80 --> 650.12]  if you're willing to put the effort in.
+[650.92 --> 652.44]  And I'll just give one more mention,
+[652.76 --> 654.14]  because as you were talking there,
+[654.14 --> 656.30]  I was just also reviewing your QuickSync
+[656.30 --> 657.68]  and Proxmox page.
+[658.18 --> 659.98]  And damn, you put some work into this.
+[660.46 --> 662.38]  But I also, I think it's pretty clever
+[662.38 --> 665.18]  that you embedded the relevant JB content
+[665.18 --> 667.42]  where we've talked about a lot of this stuff in depth
+[667.42 --> 668.96]  when it still holds up.
+[669.04 --> 671.76]  So not only do you get a lot of the written stuff
+[671.76 --> 672.72]  and the visual examples,
+[672.88 --> 675.26]  but you've got a video from Wendell in here too.
+[675.44 --> 678.14]  And so you add the supplemental media content.
+[678.94 --> 682.48]  I could see us linking this to a lot of people
+[682.48 --> 684.16]  that write into the show and ask questions
+[684.16 --> 684.96]  about this stuff.
+[685.78 --> 687.58]  If I were going to contribute one area,
+[687.68 --> 688.68]  I just thought to troll you,
+[688.74 --> 690.40]  I'd probably contribute using ButterFS.
+[690.96 --> 693.96]  Because literally everything you just said
+[693.96 --> 696.44]  about MergerFS is why I use ButterFS.
+[698.14 --> 699.50]  Seriously, like word for word.
+[699.76 --> 702.62]  So on the ZFS page,
+[702.76 --> 705.28]  there's a whole section about what about ButterFS.
+[706.72 --> 708.20]  Okay, good.
+[708.24 --> 709.24]  You've addressed it, I can see.
+[709.76 --> 711.12]  Well, a little bit.
+[711.12 --> 714.14]  And my conclusion was that using ButterFS
+[714.14 --> 717.06]  would probably be easier than ZFS
+[717.06 --> 720.08]  simply because it's shipped as part of the Linux kernel.
+[720.34 --> 724.02]  But I've invested in ZFS mentally,
+[724.20 --> 727.32]  but also I've synced six,
+[727.46 --> 730.82]  seven terabytes worth of data across the ocean to the UK.
+[731.36 --> 733.14]  And I don't want to have to spend another
+[733.14 --> 736.58]  six or seven weeks doing that again if I switch.
+[736.92 --> 738.80]  Well, ironically, it's more about
+[738.80 --> 740.48]  it's more about how you use MergerFS.
+[741.00 --> 742.92]  However, I think, you know, both are gray.
+[743.02 --> 744.72]  And if MergerFS is working for you,
+[745.52 --> 747.16]  I'm not, I will really not, I'm just more teasing.
+[747.64 --> 749.22]  But it did strike me
+[749.22 --> 752.08]  that being able to join mismatched disks
+[752.08 --> 753.66]  and add them as it grows
+[753.66 --> 755.06]  and be able to remove them easily
+[755.06 --> 757.74]  is why I switched to using ButterFS
+[757.74 --> 759.26]  on my Raspberry Pi media servers.
+[759.26 --> 760.36]  Because I needed something
+[760.36 --> 762.54]  that essentially was no cost.
+[762.54 --> 764.74]  Since ButterFS is built into the kernel
+[764.74 --> 767.18]  and it also doesn't have a high,
+[767.28 --> 768.86]  it's a very efficient file system.
+[768.94 --> 770.10]  There's not a big performance penalty.
+[770.24 --> 771.24]  I don't need a lot of RAM.
+[771.94 --> 773.04]  It meant that I didn't have to install
+[773.04 --> 775.28]  any additional software at all.
+[775.62 --> 778.50]  And actually no additional config files or anything.
+[778.74 --> 779.40]  There's no config.
+[779.50 --> 781.86]  It's just, it's all just with volume management
+[781.86 --> 782.74]  on the command line.
+[782.82 --> 783.72]  And it's very simple.
+[783.84 --> 785.92]  It's like ButterFS add volume
+[785.92 --> 786.86]  and you give it the path
+[786.86 --> 788.16]  and you tell it what volume to add to
+[788.16 --> 789.02]  and boom, you're done.
+[789.22 --> 789.76]  And then remove.
+[789.76 --> 790.90]  And as long as you have enough space,
+[790.98 --> 791.80]  it sinks everything off
+[791.80 --> 792.56]  and you can remove it.
+[792.76 --> 794.68]  And I actually have not tested that.
+[794.80 --> 796.14]  I could imagine it being tricky.
+[796.66 --> 797.66]  But I think, you know,
+[797.76 --> 799.60]  it's, there's different ways
+[799.60 --> 800.56]  to solve all of these.
+[800.72 --> 802.36]  And what you've done here with this
+[802.36 --> 803.66]  is said, well, these are ways
+[803.66 --> 807.36]  that not only are very sensible solutions,
+[807.36 --> 808.32]  but ones that I've tested.
+[808.74 --> 810.04]  And that's the value again.
+[810.12 --> 811.24]  Like, yeah, I could add something
+[811.24 --> 811.84]  about ButterFS,
+[812.18 --> 815.12]  but there's limited value in it.
+[815.22 --> 816.44]  You know, it's my experience.
+[816.98 --> 817.80]  And this is something
+[817.80 --> 819.16]  that you've worked at for a long time.
+[819.16 --> 820.70]  So I think it's, yeah,
+[820.88 --> 822.20]  I think MurderFS is a great solution
+[822.20 --> 823.00]  for that kind of stuff.
+[823.12 --> 824.68]  And, you know, things like ZFS
+[824.68 --> 825.44]  and SnapRaid,
+[825.54 --> 827.12]  depending on what your needs are,
+[827.16 --> 828.84]  also can be appropriate solutions.
+[829.44 --> 830.30]  So I've built this site
+[830.30 --> 831.16]  around MKDocs,
+[831.74 --> 834.02]  which happens to be the same project
+[834.02 --> 835.02]  that we're using
+[835.02 --> 836.14]  for the self-hosted wiki,
+[836.26 --> 837.56]  which I've also put some work
+[837.56 --> 838.36]  into this week
+[838.36 --> 840.06]  over the Christmas break.
+[840.48 --> 841.66]  So please go ahead
+[841.66 --> 843.34]  and contribute to the self-hosted wiki
+[843.34 --> 845.14]  at wiki.selfhosted.show
+[845.14 --> 846.92]  because we're crying out
+[846.92 --> 847.94]  for content over there.
+[847.94 --> 850.14]  But MKDocs,
+[850.20 --> 851.04]  I'll tell you what, Chris,
+[851.16 --> 854.70]  has become a hell of a wiki software,
+[855.02 --> 855.32]  you know?
+[855.64 --> 856.16]  So I don't know
+[856.16 --> 857.02]  when you're browsing this,
+[857.08 --> 858.16]  but I don't know if you noticed
+[858.16 --> 859.30]  it has a keyboard shortcut.
+[859.58 --> 860.38]  And they don't tell you this,
+[860.44 --> 860.62]  obviously,
+[860.72 --> 862.00]  but it's the same as Vim.
+[862.40 --> 864.80]  So you can press the forward slash key,
+[865.00 --> 866.38]  which brings up search,
+[866.52 --> 867.50]  and then you can search
+[867.50 --> 869.00]  for any string in any page.
+[869.18 --> 870.06]  And it will just,
+[870.30 --> 870.98]  in real time,
+[871.06 --> 872.12]  and then use the arrow keys.
+[872.28 --> 873.08]  Oh, yes.
+[873.08 --> 874.58]  And it will just take you straight
+[874.58 --> 876.10]  to the section of that page.
+[876.22 --> 877.36]  Just that feature alone
+[877.36 --> 878.64]  had me sold.
+[878.88 --> 879.02]  Huh.
+[879.64 --> 880.16]  That's great.
+[880.22 --> 881.02]  But they've added dozens
+[881.02 --> 881.88]  of other features,
+[882.30 --> 882.52]  you know,
+[882.60 --> 884.04]  like they've got little tool tips,
+[884.50 --> 885.62]  little info boxes,
+[885.62 --> 887.42]  and stuff that breaks up the content.
+[888.06 --> 889.76]  The code formatting,
+[890.02 --> 890.44]  highlighting,
+[890.84 --> 892.04]  is just brilliant.
+[892.82 --> 894.22]  It's fully customizable.
+[894.22 --> 896.00]  So, you know,
+[896.26 --> 898.30]  it was using the COBOL wiki
+[898.30 --> 899.82]  for the Helios 64 review,
+[899.98 --> 900.86]  which finally got me
+[900.86 --> 903.58]  to really take MKDocs seriously
+[903.58 --> 905.82]  and really went through
+[905.82 --> 906.34]  the documentation
+[906.34 --> 907.66]  with a fine tooth comb.
+[907.84 --> 908.80]  And I've enabled
+[908.80 --> 909.96]  all the features that I want.
+[910.16 --> 910.84]  And the only thing
+[910.84 --> 912.16]  I haven't done yet is comments,
+[912.38 --> 913.94]  which I might do.
+[914.02 --> 914.48]  I might not.
+[914.56 --> 915.46]  I haven't decided yet.
+[915.98 --> 918.24]  But the material theme
+[918.24 --> 920.72]  for MKDocs really is stunning.
+[921.08 --> 923.36]  And I don't think at the moment
+[923.36 --> 924.74]  there's a better open source
+[924.74 --> 926.88]  documentation platform.
+[927.48 --> 928.04]  Yeah, I will say
+[928.04 --> 929.26]  that just the presentation,
+[929.54 --> 930.52]  so not even commenting
+[930.52 --> 931.04]  on what it's like
+[931.04 --> 932.62]  to actually write on it,
+[932.66 --> 933.28]  but the presentation
+[933.28 --> 935.48]  is extremely readable.
+[936.26 --> 936.82]  You know, documentation,
+[937.14 --> 938.32]  especially something
+[938.32 --> 939.86]  as extensive as a topic like this,
+[939.92 --> 941.08]  can be just a chore
+[941.08 --> 941.76]  to get through.
+[942.18 --> 943.40]  But the way it lays out,
+[943.46 --> 943.90]  like you said,
+[943.94 --> 944.44]  the way it does
+[944.44 --> 945.42]  some of the different quoting
+[945.42 --> 946.92]  and code blocks
+[946.92 --> 948.14]  and all of it,
+[948.26 --> 950.02]  just all of it is really,
+[950.10 --> 950.40]  it's just,
+[950.50 --> 951.42]  it makes me want to use it
+[951.42 --> 951.94]  for my stuff.
+[951.94 --> 953.02]  So I was going to ask you,
+[953.02 --> 953.66]  I was going to talk to you
+[953.66 --> 954.24]  about MKDocs
+[954.24 --> 954.86]  and see what you thought
+[954.86 --> 956.70]  because, yeah,
+[956.78 --> 957.72]  it really seems impressive
+[957.72 --> 960.86]  and probably the perfect solution
+[960.86 --> 963.88]  for just JB internal documentation.
+[964.38 --> 964.66]  Yeah, I mean,
+[964.80 --> 965.28]  it's all,
+[965.50 --> 966.68]  everything's written in Markdown.
+[967.52 --> 968.96]  So if in the future
+[968.96 --> 969.80]  you decided to use
+[969.80 --> 970.64]  a different solution
+[970.64 --> 971.34]  for some reason,
+[972.14 --> 973.24]  it's just plain text.
+[973.34 --> 974.94]  It's not in a CMS somewhere.
+[975.46 --> 976.40]  It lives in a Git repo.
+[976.90 --> 978.14]  You can just copy and paste
+[978.14 --> 978.70]  and job done.
+[979.08 --> 979.84]  That's pretty nice.
+[980.22 --> 981.94]  Well, so as we record right now,
+[981.94 --> 983.64]  this isn't live.
+[983.90 --> 985.26]  So what's your plan?
+[985.30 --> 985.86]  I assume you're going to try
+[985.86 --> 986.36]  to get it out
+[986.36 --> 987.62]  when the show goes live.
+[988.12 --> 989.06]  If you look at my GitHub
+[989.06 --> 990.42]  commit history this week,
+[990.42 --> 991.90]  it's going to be bright green.
+[992.30 --> 992.70]  Yeah.
+[993.42 --> 994.92]  I'm working away feverishly
+[994.92 --> 995.66]  on this to get it done
+[995.66 --> 996.42]  by the end of 2020.
+[996.84 --> 998.12]  So I'm aiming
+[998.12 --> 999.46]  for a New Year's Eve launch.
+[999.56 --> 1000.34]  So by the time you listen
+[1000.34 --> 1000.98]  to this episode,
+[1001.06 --> 1001.86]  it should be live.
+[1002.58 --> 1003.38]  PerfectMediaServer.com.
+[1003.50 --> 1004.32]  Let me know what you think
+[1004.32 --> 1005.74]  at IronicBadger on Twitter.
+[1005.74 --> 1007.96]  I would love to hear
+[1007.96 --> 1008.38]  what you think
+[1008.38 --> 1009.58]  because I've put a lot of time,
+[1010.04 --> 1011.20]  probably several hundred hours
+[1011.20 --> 1012.60]  into this site
+[1012.60 --> 1013.24]  by the end of it,
+[1013.42 --> 1014.14]  all told.
+[1014.76 --> 1016.08]  I'd also accept PRs
+[1016.08 --> 1016.84]  on the GitHub repo.
+[1016.98 --> 1017.86]  So if you want to open an issue,
+[1017.94 --> 1018.72]  if you find a mistake
+[1018.72 --> 1019.82]  or something,
+[1019.96 --> 1021.08]  which is highly likely
+[1021.08 --> 1021.54]  at the pace
+[1021.54 --> 1022.44]  I'm working right now,
+[1023.18 --> 1023.62]  let me know
+[1023.62 --> 1024.46]  through a GitHub issue
+[1024.46 --> 1025.44]  or open a pull request
+[1025.44 --> 1025.80]  or something.
+[1025.88 --> 1026.78]  I would love to hear from you.
+[1026.78 --> 1027.18]  Okay.
+[1027.58 --> 1032.42]  Needs more ButterFS documentation.
+[1033.20 --> 1033.64]  Serious.
+[1033.64 --> 1034.52]  Seriously.
+[1035.26 --> 1035.74]  Jeez.
+[1037.88 --> 1038.74]  You, sir,
+[1038.86 --> 1040.54]  are a grade A troll.
+[1040.74 --> 1041.18]  Thank you.
+[1043.56 --> 1044.66]  Linode.com
+[1044.66 --> 1045.86]  slash SSH.
+[1045.96 --> 1046.24]  Go there
+[1046.24 --> 1047.50]  to get a $100
+[1047.50 --> 1048.90]  60-day credit
+[1048.90 --> 1049.68]  towards a new account
+[1049.68 --> 1050.76]  and go there
+[1050.76 --> 1051.54]  to support the show.
+[1051.94 --> 1052.68]  Linode is our
+[1052.68 --> 1053.78]  cloud hosting provider
+[1053.78 --> 1054.84]  and because the price
+[1054.84 --> 1055.32]  is so great,
+[1055.44 --> 1056.40]  they can make it possible
+[1056.40 --> 1058.24]  for you to use Linode
+[1058.24 --> 1059.60]  even for a small deployment
+[1059.60 --> 1061.06]  or for a large deployment.
+[1061.68 --> 1062.44]  Jeff used Linode
+[1062.44 --> 1063.26]  to test migrate
+[1063.26 --> 1063.82]  his important
+[1063.82 --> 1064.72]  NextCloud setup.
+[1065.10 --> 1066.04]  He just took things
+[1066.04 --> 1067.24]  one step at a time
+[1067.24 --> 1068.26]  using different guides
+[1068.26 --> 1068.74]  on Linode
+[1068.74 --> 1069.24]  to make sure
+[1069.24 --> 1070.10]  everything was right
+[1070.10 --> 1071.48]  and he says
+[1071.48 --> 1072.36]  eventually after about
+[1072.36 --> 1073.32]  three pages of notes
+[1073.32 --> 1074.80]  he did a completed
+[1074.80 --> 1076.26]  successful migration
+[1076.26 --> 1077.46]  and then he was able
+[1077.46 --> 1078.84]  to take that knowledge,
+[1079.52 --> 1080.76]  take that hands-on experience
+[1080.76 --> 1083.62]  and go actually implement it
+[1083.62 --> 1084.28]  on his production
+[1084.28 --> 1085.12]  NextCloud instance.
+[1085.50 --> 1085.70]  He said,
+[1085.78 --> 1086.36]  but in the testing
+[1086.36 --> 1087.32]  he noticed that
+[1087.32 --> 1090.26]  even their smaller Linodes
+[1090.26 --> 1091.98]  were still faster
+[1091.98 --> 1092.68]  than his local
+[1092.68 --> 1093.30]  quad-core
+[1093.30 --> 1094.12]  16-gigabyte
+[1094.12 --> 1094.86]  local machine.
+[1096.14 --> 1098.14]  So he's looking at
+[1098.14 --> 1098.92]  maybe just hosting it
+[1098.92 --> 1099.92]  on Linode.com
+[1099.92 --> 1100.94]  And Alex,
+[1101.04 --> 1102.06]  I know that you're using
+[1102.06 --> 1102.52]  Linode for
+[1102.52 --> 1103.86]  the perfectmediaserver.com
+[1103.86 --> 1105.10]  I sure am, yeah.
+[1105.32 --> 1106.64]  Same node as
+[1106.64 --> 1107.54]  is doing the wiki
+[1107.54 --> 1109.94]  and gallery.selfhosted.show
+[1109.94 --> 1111.18]  is doing
+[1111.18 --> 1112.74]  perfectmediaserver.com
+[1112.74 --> 1114.40]  So you can really squeeze
+[1114.40 --> 1114.92]  quite a lot
+[1114.92 --> 1115.84]  out of these little things.
+[1115.84 --> 1116.94]  I love hearing
+[1116.94 --> 1118.02]  how people are using
+[1118.02 --> 1118.58]  Linode.
+[1118.72 --> 1119.56]  So do let me know
+[1119.56 --> 1120.82]  either at the contact
+[1120.82 --> 1121.98]  forum or at Chris Lass
+[1121.98 --> 1122.62]  on Twitter
+[1122.62 --> 1124.08]  because with $5
+[1124.08 --> 1125.14]  a month rigs
+[1125.14 --> 1125.96]  you can do a lot
+[1125.96 --> 1127.56]  but they also have
+[1127.56 --> 1129.60]  dedicated CPU systems
+[1129.60 --> 1130.30]  or machines
+[1130.30 --> 1131.30]  with tons of RAM
+[1131.30 --> 1132.44]  or lots of GPU
+[1132.44 --> 1133.72]  so go experiment
+[1133.72 --> 1134.50]  with that $100
+[1134.50 --> 1135.56]  60-day credit.
+[1135.98 --> 1136.66]  They also offer
+[1136.66 --> 1138.14]  S3 object storage.
+[1138.50 --> 1139.42]  This is a great way
+[1139.42 --> 1140.18]  to store things
+[1140.18 --> 1140.84]  in the cloud
+[1140.84 --> 1142.00]  that don't need
+[1142.00 --> 1142.48]  a Linode
+[1142.48 --> 1142.94]  or a server
+[1142.94 --> 1143.70]  sitting in front of them.
+[1143.76 --> 1144.34]  You can just generate
+[1144.34 --> 1145.00]  a public URL
+[1145.00 --> 1145.72]  for that asset.
+[1146.24 --> 1146.74]  I do this
+[1146.74 --> 1147.66]  for soundboard clips
+[1147.66 --> 1148.66]  you can do this
+[1148.66 --> 1149.22]  for websites
+[1149.22 --> 1150.04]  it's a great way
+[1150.04 --> 1151.00]  to get a super fast
+[1151.00 --> 1151.60]  portfolio
+[1151.60 --> 1152.60]  where everything's
+[1152.60 --> 1153.30]  stored statically
+[1153.30 --> 1154.16]  in object storage
+[1154.16 --> 1155.06]  and their prices
+[1155.06 --> 1155.52]  are great.
+[1155.80 --> 1156.22]  They also have
+[1156.22 --> 1156.96]  load balancers
+[1156.96 --> 1157.26]  and they have
+[1157.26 --> 1157.82]  data centers
+[1157.82 --> 1159.00]  in 11 locations
+[1159.00 --> 1159.76]  around the world.
+[1160.48 --> 1160.88]  So you're going to
+[1160.88 --> 1161.38]  find something
+[1161.38 --> 1161.90]  close to you
+[1161.90 --> 1163.30]  or close to your client.
+[1163.86 --> 1164.18]  So go to
+[1164.18 --> 1165.08]  linode.com
+[1165.08 --> 1166.32]  slash SSH
+[1166.32 --> 1167.06]  go there
+[1167.06 --> 1168.00]  get that $100
+[1168.00 --> 1169.00]  60-day credit
+[1169.00 --> 1169.94]  apply that towards
+[1169.94 --> 1170.44]  a new account
+[1170.44 --> 1171.56]  and go there
+[1171.56 --> 1172.30]  to support the show.
+[1172.82 --> 1173.92]  You help make
+[1173.92 --> 1175.08]  independent content
+[1175.08 --> 1175.58]  like this
+[1175.58 --> 1175.86]  free
+[1175.86 --> 1176.68]  when you go to
+[1176.68 --> 1177.44]  linode.com
+[1177.44 --> 1178.86]  slash SSH.
+[1178.86 --> 1181.96]  I can't quite believe
+[1181.96 --> 1182.64]  just how many
+[1182.64 --> 1183.48]  powerline emails
+[1183.48 --> 1184.30]  we had this week
+[1184.30 --> 1184.86]  though can you?
+[1185.68 --> 1186.74]  Alex it was
+[1186.74 --> 1187.62]  wild.
+[1187.88 --> 1188.66]  So I responded
+[1188.66 --> 1189.74]  to several of them
+[1189.74 --> 1190.16]  directly.
+[1190.32 --> 1190.96]  I figured we respond
+[1190.96 --> 1191.56]  to a couple here
+[1191.56 --> 1192.14]  in the show
+[1192.14 --> 1193.34]  when we had a few
+[1193.34 --> 1193.88]  people write in
+[1193.88 --> 1194.60]  about this stuff.
+[1194.60 --> 1196.24]  I kind of suspected
+[1196.24 --> 1197.04]  that powerline
+[1197.04 --> 1197.64]  networking was
+[1197.64 --> 1198.44]  probably something
+[1198.44 --> 1200.88]  that got more
+[1200.88 --> 1202.62]  use and deployments
+[1202.62 --> 1205.28]  than kind of
+[1205.28 --> 1206.32]  gets representation
+[1206.32 --> 1207.16]  because there's so
+[1207.16 --> 1208.06]  many scenarios
+[1208.06 --> 1209.60]  where Wi-Fi
+[1209.60 --> 1210.64]  just doesn't work
+[1210.64 --> 1212.36]  especially older
+[1212.36 --> 1213.08]  style Wi-Fi
+[1213.08 --> 1213.98]  non-mesh Wi-Fi
+[1213.98 --> 1214.90]  where like
+[1214.90 --> 1215.90]  either a house
+[1215.90 --> 1217.48]  construction materials
+[1217.48 --> 1218.08]  involved
+[1218.08 --> 1219.30]  or distance
+[1219.30 --> 1220.98]  or all kinds
+[1220.98 --> 1221.64]  of weird things.
+[1221.64 --> 1223.58]  I have a family
+[1223.58 --> 1224.28]  member who's
+[1224.28 --> 1225.04]  next to an airport
+[1225.04 --> 1226.32]  and their
+[1226.32 --> 1227.22]  radio signal
+[1227.22 --> 1228.12]  situation is just
+[1228.12 --> 1228.50]  crazy.
+[1229.02 --> 1229.48]  It's just
+[1229.48 --> 1230.82]  unusable.
+[1231.58 --> 1231.98]  So I
+[1231.98 --> 1233.14]  suspected
+[1233.14 --> 1234.00]  we would hear
+[1234.00 --> 1234.90]  a lot about this
+[1234.90 --> 1236.86]  but JT wrote in
+[1236.86 --> 1237.50]  to say that he's
+[1237.50 --> 1238.02]  been using
+[1238.02 --> 1238.82]  powerline adapters
+[1238.82 --> 1239.76]  for a couple of years.
+[1240.38 --> 1241.26]  He currently has
+[1241.26 --> 1241.94]  three of the
+[1241.94 --> 1243.34]  TP-Link AV1000s
+[1243.34 --> 1243.88]  which is the kit
+[1243.88 --> 1244.28]  I bought
+[1244.28 --> 1246.06]  with two different kits
+[1246.06 --> 1246.84]  and he's using them
+[1246.84 --> 1247.50]  without any issues.
+[1247.62 --> 1247.90]  So he bought
+[1247.90 --> 1248.74]  two of the kits
+[1248.74 --> 1249.70]  two of what I have
+[1249.70 --> 1250.40]  and they all
+[1250.40 --> 1251.00]  link together.
+[1251.00 --> 1251.90]  He says I do
+[1251.90 --> 1252.32]  have a problem
+[1252.32 --> 1252.78]  with one of the
+[1252.78 --> 1253.36]  rooms though
+[1253.36 --> 1254.34]  where one adapter
+[1254.34 --> 1255.00]  normally gets about
+[1255.00 --> 1256.16]  120 megabits
+[1256.16 --> 1257.64]  and then it gets
+[1257.64 --> 1258.18]  out of sync
+[1258.18 --> 1258.84]  and it starts
+[1258.84 --> 1259.80]  dropping packets
+[1259.80 --> 1260.42]  like mad
+[1260.42 --> 1261.16]  dropping the
+[1261.16 --> 1261.98]  bandwidth next to
+[1261.98 --> 1262.40]  nothing
+[1262.40 --> 1263.06]  sometimes even
+[1263.06 --> 1263.54]  less than a
+[1263.54 --> 1263.98]  megabit
+[1263.98 --> 1264.78]  but if I
+[1264.78 --> 1265.22]  unplug and
+[1265.22 --> 1265.72]  replug them
+[1265.72 --> 1266.14]  back in
+[1266.14 --> 1266.62]  it seems to
+[1266.62 --> 1267.00]  fix it.
+[1267.36 --> 1268.12]  It happens
+[1268.12 --> 1268.46]  from time
+[1268.46 --> 1268.94]  to time
+[1268.94 --> 1270.12]  but also
+[1270.12 --> 1270.60]  I wanted to
+[1270.60 --> 1270.96]  give just a
+[1270.96 --> 1271.52]  quick shout out
+[1271.52 --> 1272.68]  to cloudfree.shop
+[1272.68 --> 1273.38]  one of our
+[1273.38 --> 1274.14]  official unofficial
+[1274.14 --> 1274.86]  sponsors here
+[1274.86 --> 1276.06]  of the self-hosted
+[1276.06 --> 1276.54]  podcast.
+[1277.00 --> 1277.38]  Coupon code
+[1277.38 --> 1278.04]  self-hosted.
+[1278.32 --> 1278.54]  He said
+[1278.54 --> 1279.42]  cloudfree.shop
+[1279.42 --> 1281.02]  finally gave him
+[1281.02 --> 1281.88]  the kick in the
+[1281.88 --> 1282.56]  butt he needed
+[1282.56 --> 1283.48]  to begin automating
+[1283.48 --> 1283.92]  his home.
+[1284.44 --> 1284.64]  He says
+[1284.64 --> 1285.10]  I never want
+[1285.10 --> 1285.52]  anything really
+[1285.52 --> 1286.04]  connected to the
+[1286.04 --> 1286.56]  cloud and with
+[1286.56 --> 1287.20]  smart plugs from
+[1287.20 --> 1288.16]  cloudfree and
+[1288.16 --> 1288.68]  home assistant
+[1288.68 --> 1289.66]  I felt like I
+[1289.66 --> 1290.22]  could finally get
+[1290.22 --> 1290.56]  started.
+[1291.06 --> 1291.68]  The first thing
+[1291.68 --> 1292.42]  that I automated
+[1292.42 --> 1293.64]  was my bearded
+[1293.64 --> 1294.50]  dragon's cage
+[1294.50 --> 1294.84]  lights.
+[1295.38 --> 1295.62]  Yep.
+[1295.74 --> 1296.24]  One of the first
+[1296.24 --> 1296.80]  things I automated
+[1296.80 --> 1297.32]  here in the studio
+[1297.32 --> 1298.22]  was my fish tank
+[1298.22 --> 1299.16]  lights so totally
+[1299.16 --> 1299.86]  totally with you
+[1299.86 --> 1300.16]  JT.
+[1300.58 --> 1301.08]  He says
+[1301.08 --> 1302.22]  which got rid of
+[1302.22 --> 1302.80]  a terrible
+[1302.80 --> 1303.84]  constantly clicking
+[1303.84 --> 1304.70]  analog timer that
+[1304.70 --> 1305.40]  I used to use.
+[1305.40 --> 1306.68]  I also bought a
+[1306.68 --> 1308.76]  D1 mini ESP8266
+[1308.76 --> 1310.02]  Wi-Fi board and
+[1310.02 --> 1311.54]  a BME280 temperature
+[1311.54 --> 1312.44]  pressure and
+[1312.44 --> 1313.86]  humidity sensor and
+[1313.86 --> 1314.70]  combined them into
+[1314.70 --> 1315.98]  an MQTT based
+[1315.98 --> 1316.80]  sensor that home
+[1316.80 --> 1317.78]  assistant uses to
+[1317.78 --> 1318.48]  control the heat
+[1318.48 --> 1319.40]  lamp in the cage.
+[1319.50 --> 1320.62]  Heck yeah he did.
+[1321.88 --> 1322.68]  That's great.
+[1322.72 --> 1323.42]  That's next level.
+[1323.82 --> 1324.74]  Talk about like you
+[1324.74 --> 1327.30]  want a backup no
+[1327.30 --> 1328.14]  fail state for that
+[1328.14 --> 1328.36]  thing.
+[1328.76 --> 1329.42]  He says the
+[1329.42 --> 1330.36]  spousal approval
+[1330.36 --> 1331.98]  factor was very high
+[1331.98 --> 1333.00]  on these purchases
+[1333.00 --> 1334.46]  and the time I
+[1334.46 --> 1335.48]  spent learning to
+[1335.48 --> 1336.22]  solder.
+[1337.06 --> 1337.66]  That's great.
+[1337.74 --> 1338.26]  Says thanks for the
+[1338.26 --> 1338.92]  shows looking forward
+[1338.92 --> 1339.52]  to the next one.
+[1339.90 --> 1340.60]  Good to hear that
+[1340.60 --> 1340.96]  JT.
+[1341.06 --> 1341.62]  I love it when it
+[1341.62 --> 1342.76]  works out and yeah
+[1342.76 --> 1343.80]  for those of you who
+[1343.80 --> 1344.54]  are new to the show
+[1344.54 --> 1346.28]  cloudfree.shop is a
+[1346.28 --> 1347.20]  community built store
+[1347.20 --> 1349.50]  and we're official
+[1349.50 --> 1350.40]  unofficial official
+[1350.40 --> 1351.52]  sponsors or they are
+[1351.52 --> 1353.06]  we just love them and
+[1353.06 --> 1354.26]  we worked out a deal
+[1354.26 --> 1355.24]  when you use the
+[1355.24 --> 1356.42]  promo code and you
+[1356.42 --> 1357.34]  get devices that
+[1357.34 --> 1358.84]  don't have like the
+[1358.84 --> 1359.74]  cloud connected stuff
+[1359.74 --> 1360.16]  on there.
+[1360.64 --> 1361.34]  You know sometimes I
+[1361.34 --> 1362.02]  like a little cloud
+[1362.02 --> 1362.70]  like I put a sync
+[1362.70 --> 1363.34]  things over up in
+[1363.34 --> 1364.30]  the cloud made
+[1364.30 --> 1365.68]  stuff faster but
+[1365.68 --> 1366.84]  the smart plug that
+[1366.84 --> 1367.76]  controls the old fish
+[1367.76 --> 1368.70]  tank I don't want any
+[1368.70 --> 1369.40]  cloud involved with
+[1369.40 --> 1370.34]  that you know it's
+[1370.34 --> 1371.66]  just how it goes.
+[1372.68 --> 1373.16]  And you also don't
+[1373.16 --> 1373.68]  have to wait
+[1373.68 --> 1374.42]  necessarily on the
+[1374.42 --> 1375.02]  slow boat from
+[1375.02 --> 1376.16]  China sometimes for
+[1376.16 --> 1376.68]  these things to
+[1376.68 --> 1377.38]  arrive so.
+[1377.66 --> 1378.42]  True true.
+[1378.66 --> 1379.52]  It is nice that they
+[1379.52 --> 1380.56]  are stateside as well.
+[1380.90 --> 1381.86]  Yeah that's good
+[1381.86 --> 1382.50]  that's a good point.
+[1383.78 --> 1385.22]  Ro wrote in about
+[1385.22 --> 1386.48]  Powerline Finicky and
+[1386.48 --> 1387.22]  I think the reason I
+[1387.22 --> 1388.40]  included his email is
+[1388.40 --> 1389.30]  because he referred to
+[1389.30 --> 1390.80]  us as Chris and the
+[1390.80 --> 1392.68]  Badger which I
+[1392.70 --> 1395.00]  which gave me like
+[1395.00 --> 1398.50]  this morning AM or
+[1398.50 --> 1400.36]  FM radio vibe and I
+[1400.36 --> 1401.14]  just pictured you and
+[1401.14 --> 1402.42]  I doing a morning
+[1402.42 --> 1405.44]  KWRAX Chris and the
+[1405.44 --> 1406.48]  Badger yeah I can I
+[1406.48 --> 1407.14]  can hear it now.
+[1407.34 --> 1407.80]  It's Chris and the
+[1407.80 --> 1408.16]  Badger.
+[1409.76 --> 1410.64]  Welcome to Chris and
+[1410.64 --> 1411.04]  the Badger.
+[1411.18 --> 1411.68]  Chris and the Badger.
+[1411.76 --> 1412.10]  Chris and the Badger.
+[1412.18 --> 1412.96]  It's the Badger.
+[1413.68 --> 1415.42]  Yeah I could see that.
+[1416.62 --> 1418.06]  I want a listener now to
+[1418.06 --> 1418.98]  try and make us a jingle
+[1418.98 --> 1419.76]  Chris and the Badger
+[1419.76 --> 1420.12]  please.
+[1420.36 --> 1420.92]  That would be fun.
+[1422.20 --> 1423.30]  Chris and the Badger in
+[1423.30 --> 1423.74]  the morning.
+[1424.46 --> 1425.48]  He says Chris I was
+[1425.48 --> 1426.20]  surprised to hear about
+[1426.20 --> 1426.82]  your experiences with
+[1426.82 --> 1427.24]  Powerline.
+[1427.34 --> 1427.92]  I've been using the
+[1427.92 --> 1428.74]  TP-Link Powerline
+[1428.74 --> 1429.36]  products for several
+[1429.36 --> 1430.82]  years now and I've had
+[1430.82 --> 1431.78]  mixed results and my
+[1431.78 --> 1433.06]  experience it works but
+[1433.06 --> 1434.20]  sometimes it has some
+[1434.20 --> 1434.92]  problems that make it
+[1434.92 --> 1436.92]  hard to really recommend
+[1436.92 --> 1438.74]  and he tells me about
+[1438.74 --> 1439.76]  different products that
+[1439.76 --> 1440.32]  he's tried and
+[1440.32 --> 1441.42]  troubleshooting and he
+[1441.42 --> 1442.74]  has a pretty solid
+[1442.74 --> 1443.76]  looking house layout.
+[1444.00 --> 1444.32]  You know there's
+[1444.32 --> 1445.36]  nothing too crazy about
+[1445.36 --> 1445.92]  his electrical.
+[1445.92 --> 1447.48]  It's a modern house
+[1447.48 --> 1450.76]  and it's shorter than
+[1450.76 --> 1451.78]  300 meters and all of
+[1451.78 --> 1452.48]  that kind of stuff that
+[1452.48 --> 1453.04]  you'd look at.
+[1453.62 --> 1454.62]  But he says Powerline
+[1454.62 --> 1455.56]  works but it's
+[1455.56 --> 1456.64]  definitely nowhere as
+[1456.64 --> 1457.86]  fast as wired Ethernet.
+[1458.46 --> 1459.38]  In fact it isn't even
+[1459.38 --> 1460.56]  as fast as some of the
+[1460.56 --> 1462.58]  mesh Wi-Fi that he's
+[1462.58 --> 1462.88]  tested.
+[1462.98 --> 1463.60]  So he did several
+[1463.60 --> 1464.28]  different kind of speed
+[1464.28 --> 1465.16]  tests for us and said
+[1465.16 --> 1467.80]  in all he is able to
+[1467.80 --> 1469.06]  get better performance on
+[1469.06 --> 1471.32]  mesh Wi-Fi but in some
+[1471.32 --> 1473.00]  situations where Wi-Fi
+[1473.00 --> 1473.74]  didn't reach or there
+[1473.74 --> 1475.38]  was other issues he was
+[1475.38 --> 1476.30]  still able to get
+[1476.30 --> 1477.70]  around 100, 150
+[1477.70 --> 1478.92]  megabits with his
+[1478.92 --> 1479.84]  Powerline adapters.
+[1480.58 --> 1481.54]  In one case depending
+[1481.54 --> 1482.44]  on a product he tried he
+[1482.44 --> 1483.38]  was able to get 300
+[1483.38 --> 1485.22]  megabits which that's
+[1485.22 --> 1485.88]  pretty respectable.
+[1486.12 --> 1486.76]  That's really all I'd
+[1486.76 --> 1487.52]  want over Powerline.
+[1487.70 --> 1488.50]  I'm not expecting
+[1488.50 --> 1489.00]  gigabit.
+[1489.46 --> 1490.14]  I mean if all you're
+[1490.14 --> 1492.28]  doing is streaming you
+[1492.28 --> 1493.50]  know on Cody or
+[1493.50 --> 1494.44]  something like that you
+[1494.44 --> 1495.00]  know that's all you
+[1495.00 --> 1495.38]  need.
+[1495.58 --> 1496.58]  He points out and it's
+[1496.58 --> 1497.14]  a great thing to
+[1497.14 --> 1498.82]  consider is a little
+[1498.82 --> 1501.26]  play of words that
+[1501.26 --> 1502.60]  these manufacturers use.
+[1502.84 --> 1503.20]  Yes.
+[1503.38 --> 1504.06]  And I haven't verified
+[1504.06 --> 1504.92]  this but according to
+[1504.92 --> 1506.30]  him he says when they
+[1506.30 --> 1507.28]  say it's a gigabit
+[1507.28 --> 1508.74]  they mean it's a
+[1508.74 --> 1509.44]  gigabit when you
+[1509.44 --> 1510.52]  combine the send and
+[1510.52 --> 1510.94]  the receive.
+[1511.52 --> 1512.86]  It's actually half a
+[1512.86 --> 1514.68]  gigabit in both
+[1514.68 --> 1515.24]  directions.
+[1515.62 --> 1516.68]  In a perfect world
+[1516.68 --> 1517.86]  when there is no wind
+[1517.86 --> 1518.46]  outside.
+[1519.14 --> 1519.32]  Right.
+[1519.56 --> 1520.56]  They're about one
+[1520.56 --> 1521.54]  centimeter apart
+[1521.54 --> 1522.44]  probably yes.
+[1522.92 --> 1523.96]  So if you get a two
+[1523.96 --> 1525.34]  gigabit model which
+[1525.34 --> 1526.30]  there are two gigabit
+[1526.30 --> 1527.30]  units then it's one
+[1527.30 --> 1528.22]  gigabit send one
+[1528.22 --> 1529.24]  gigabit receive and it's
+[1529.24 --> 1531.16]  actually a one gigabit
+[1531.16 --> 1532.22]  unit the way we think of
+[1532.22 --> 1532.92]  it in terms of like
+[1532.92 --> 1533.76]  ethernet adapters.
+[1534.40 --> 1535.12]  So that's a little
+[1535.12 --> 1536.08]  trick of rooskies that
+[1536.08 --> 1537.40]  they like to pull that
+[1537.40 --> 1537.92]  when they're quoting
+[1537.92 --> 1539.00]  speeds they're quoting
+[1539.00 --> 1540.74]  just a send or receive.
+[1541.76 --> 1542.70]  But we got lots of
+[1542.70 --> 1543.10]  other feedback.
+[1543.22 --> 1544.02]  Some people thought that
+[1544.02 --> 1545.04]  it was that maybe I'd
+[1545.04 --> 1545.84]  have better performance
+[1545.84 --> 1546.58]  if I didn't have solar
+[1546.58 --> 1549.80]  panels on the RV that
+[1549.80 --> 1550.50]  they thought maybe that
+[1550.50 --> 1551.78]  was causing some high
+[1551.78 --> 1552.80]  degree of interference
+[1552.80 --> 1553.82]  just because of you know
+[1553.82 --> 1554.70]  the intensity of that.
+[1554.86 --> 1556.34]  But those systems are
+[1556.34 --> 1557.02]  totally separate.
+[1557.36 --> 1559.14]  The house power doesn't
+[1559.14 --> 1560.26]  connect to like the
+[1560.26 --> 1562.14]  charge controller or the
+[1562.14 --> 1562.90]  batteries directly.
+[1563.30 --> 1564.16]  Yeah because a lot of
+[1564.16 --> 1565.54]  folks wrote in and said
+[1565.54 --> 1567.34]  that if you have coax in
+[1567.34 --> 1567.94]  your walls you can
+[1567.94 --> 1569.66]  actually get power line
+[1569.66 --> 1572.72]  over coax adapters and
+[1572.72 --> 1573.50]  because they're not
+[1573.50 --> 1575.12]  carrying any signal in
+[1575.12 --> 1576.58]  modern houses generally
+[1576.58 --> 1578.68]  speaking anymore you can
+[1578.68 --> 1579.70]  actually get away with
+[1579.70 --> 1581.80]  you know running ethernet
+[1581.80 --> 1583.90]  over those and they're a
+[1583.90 --> 1585.06]  very clean signal so you
+[1585.06 --> 1585.80]  get better performance
+[1585.80 --> 1586.20]  that way.
+[1586.58 --> 1587.32]  That could be worth
+[1587.32 --> 1587.90]  looking into.
+[1588.20 --> 1590.26]  You know I got a couple
+[1590.26 --> 1591.54]  of spots that have coax
+[1591.54 --> 1592.10]  pre-run.
+[1593.00 --> 1593.82]  That's interesting.
+[1594.14 --> 1594.32]  Hmm.
+[1594.66 --> 1594.94]  Hmm.
+[1595.06 --> 1595.78]  I don't know Alex.
+[1595.86 --> 1597.80]  Maybe one day in the
+[1597.80 --> 1598.42]  future.
+[1599.24 --> 1600.90]  Brad wrote in about a
+[1600.90 --> 1603.54]  killer MOBO with QuickSync.
+[1603.54 --> 1604.68]  Yeah he's found the
+[1604.68 --> 1608.16]  ASRock J5040 ITX board.
+[1608.50 --> 1609.74]  It's a mini ITX form
+[1609.74 --> 1611.00]  factor with a quad core
+[1611.00 --> 1613.92]  Pentium chip and it has
+[1613.92 --> 1615.54]  QuickSync version 605.
+[1615.54 --> 1617.96]  Now he wrote in about
+[1617.96 --> 1619.70]  this one because of
+[1619.70 --> 1620.50]  energy usage.
+[1620.64 --> 1621.96]  This one idles he says
+[1621.96 --> 1624.48]  between 10 and 15 watts
+[1624.48 --> 1624.86]  only.
+[1625.42 --> 1627.40]  But it also has four
+[1627.40 --> 1628.50]  SATA ports which I
+[1628.50 --> 1630.56]  thought hmm this would
+[1630.56 --> 1632.38]  make a really nice sort
+[1632.38 --> 1633.54]  of NAS motherboard
+[1633.54 --> 1634.54]  potentially because you
+[1634.54 --> 1635.60]  know four hard drives
+[1635.60 --> 1637.74]  a small enclosure low
+[1637.74 --> 1639.58]  power draw QuickSync.
+[1640.40 --> 1641.08]  You know you're pushing
+[1641.08 --> 1642.24]  my buttons here Brad.
+[1642.60 --> 1643.16]  Yeah really.
+[1643.16 --> 1643.96]  Me too.
+[1644.32 --> 1645.06]  It looks like a really
+[1645.06 --> 1645.74]  nice motherboard.
+[1645.88 --> 1649.66]  Yeah this ASRock J5040
+[1649.66 --> 1650.16]  ITX.
+[1650.96 --> 1651.74]  We'll put a link in the
+[1651.74 --> 1653.72]  in the show notes.
+[1654.02 --> 1655.30]  But that hardware
+[1655.30 --> 1656.16]  acceleration that
+[1656.78 --> 1658.00]  QuickSync boy that that
+[1658.00 --> 1658.84]  is looking really good.
+[1658.96 --> 1660.02]  And this you could
+[1660.02 --> 1661.28]  totally build I bet you
+[1661.28 --> 1662.76]  for if you had the
+[1662.76 --> 1665.16]  storage I bet two
+[1665.70 --> 1666.40]  three hundred dollars
+[1666.40 --> 1667.64]  to build a nice system
+[1667.64 --> 1668.30]  with a decent little
+[1668.30 --> 1668.70]  case.
+[1668.88 --> 1669.82]  There's some memory
+[1669.82 --> 1670.64]  around this thing.
+[1671.06 --> 1672.82]  It's a passive CPU as
+[1672.82 --> 1674.80]  well so it takes it
+[1674.80 --> 1675.70]  doesn't need a fan on
+[1675.70 --> 1676.18]  the CPU.
+[1676.92 --> 1678.06]  Also it takes a
+[1678.06 --> 1679.50]  laptop style SO
+[1679.50 --> 1680.58]  DIM memory.
+[1681.32 --> 1682.22]  So this thing is tiny.
+[1682.34 --> 1682.86]  It's got a couple of
+[1682.86 --> 1684.46]  M2 slots on there for
+[1684.46 --> 1685.36]  Wi-Fi if you want.
+[1686.10 --> 1687.50]  So yeah yeah go go
+[1687.50 --> 1688.10]  ahead and check that
+[1688.10 --> 1688.36]  one out.
+[1688.42 --> 1688.90]  That looks like a
+[1688.90 --> 1689.96]  really really useful
+[1689.96 --> 1690.50]  little build.
+[1690.96 --> 1691.80]  Stefan wrote in to tell
+[1691.80 --> 1692.72]  us about some benchmarks
+[1692.72 --> 1693.80]  in German that show
+[1693.80 --> 1694.72]  that the latest AMD
+[1694.72 --> 1696.70]  desktop APUs are
+[1696.70 --> 1698.10]  getting idle power well
+[1698.10 --> 1700.22]  below 10 watts and
+[1700.22 --> 1700.72]  depending on the
+[1700.72 --> 1701.70]  motherboard as low
+[1701.70 --> 1702.52]  as six or seven
+[1702.52 --> 1702.92]  watts.
+[1703.44 --> 1704.16]  So it seems like
+[1704.16 --> 1704.72]  there's something to
+[1704.72 --> 1705.42]  watch there too.
+[1705.86 --> 1706.72]  Oh I'm trying to
+[1706.72 --> 1707.88]  avoid buying a Ryzen
+[1707.88 --> 1708.46]  5000.
+[1709.12 --> 1710.04]  I'm really trying to
+[1710.04 --> 1711.74]  avoid it but stuff
+[1711.74 --> 1713.06]  like that makes me
+[1713.06 --> 1713.96]  want to buy one.
+[1715.86 --> 1716.68]  Hey while we're doing
+[1716.68 --> 1717.30]  feedback I want to
+[1717.30 --> 1717.92]  take a moment and
+[1717.92 --> 1719.38]  mention that a cloud
+[1719.38 --> 1720.86]  guru has a Python 3
+[1720.86 --> 1722.18]  scripting course for
+[1722.18 --> 1723.08]  system administrators
+[1723.08 --> 1724.50]  where you can develop
+[1724.50 --> 1725.24]  the skills you need to
+[1725.24 --> 1725.98]  write effective and
+[1725.98 --> 1727.32]  powerful scripts and
+[1727.32 --> 1728.46]  create command line
+[1728.46 --> 1730.56]  tools using Python 3.
+[1730.56 --> 1731.18]  So in the course
+[1731.18 --> 1731.46]  you're going to
+[1731.46 --> 1732.02]  develop skills you
+[1732.02 --> 1732.36]  need to write
+[1732.36 --> 1732.88]  effective and
+[1732.88 --> 1733.54]  powerful Python
+[1733.54 --> 1734.90]  scripts and it's
+[1734.90 --> 1736.00]  it's a big one.
+[1736.10 --> 1736.50]  So beyond the
+[1736.50 --> 1737.24]  language itself you'll
+[1737.24 --> 1737.88]  go through the full
+[1737.88 --> 1738.62]  development process
+[1738.62 --> 1739.36]  including project
+[1739.36 --> 1740.12]  setup, planning,
+[1740.74 --> 1741.78]  automated testing to
+[1741.78 --> 1742.30]  build two different
+[1742.30 --> 1743.10]  command line tools and
+[1743.10 --> 1743.34]  more.
+[1743.82 --> 1744.46]  So check out the link
+[1744.46 --> 1745.20]  we'll have in the
+[1745.20 --> 1746.16]  show notes for the
+[1746.16 --> 1747.22]  Python 3 scripting for
+[1747.22 --> 1748.02]  system administrators
+[1748.02 --> 1749.52]  at cloudguru.com.
+[1750.90 --> 1751.94]  Hey so I'm sat here
+[1751.94 --> 1752.34]  whilst we were
+[1752.34 --> 1753.30]  recording and thought
+[1753.30 --> 1754.22]  my feet are cold.
+[1754.64 --> 1755.20]  So whilst you were
+[1755.20 --> 1756.28]  reading that ad spot
+[1756.28 --> 1757.56]  I logged into my
+[1757.56 --> 1758.20]  home assistant and
+[1758.20 --> 1758.86]  just bumped up the
+[1758.86 --> 1759.76]  thermostat a little bit.
+[1760.56 --> 1762.94]  It's nice isn't it?
+[1763.56 --> 1764.42]  Yep, yep.
+[1764.64 --> 1765.54]  I think my favorite
+[1765.54 --> 1767.66]  still is because of
+[1767.66 --> 1768.10]  the HomeKit
+[1768.10 --> 1769.76]  integration when I'm
+[1769.76 --> 1771.14]  driving home I just
+[1771.14 --> 1771.84]  push a button on the
+[1771.84 --> 1772.96]  steering wheel and I
+[1772.96 --> 1775.10]  tell the computer just
+[1775.10 --> 1776.26]  to turn on you know
+[1776.26 --> 1777.04]  the heaters to extra
+[1777.04 --> 1777.24]  heat.
+[1777.44 --> 1778.00]  We have an extra heat
+[1778.00 --> 1778.52]  mode that kind of
+[1778.52 --> 1779.06]  brings up the
+[1779.06 --> 1780.22]  temperature more a
+[1780.22 --> 1781.48]  little quicker and
+[1781.48 --> 1782.28]  so when I buy the
+[1782.28 --> 1782.84]  and turn on the
+[1782.84 --> 1783.10]  lights.
+[1783.44 --> 1783.96]  So when I get home
+[1783.96 --> 1784.78]  all the lights are on
+[1784.78 --> 1786.06]  place is nice and
+[1786.06 --> 1786.34]  toasty.
+[1786.34 --> 1788.68]  Oh I've been
+[1788.68 --> 1789.32]  thinking about like
+[1789.32 --> 1790.42]  an NFC tag on the
+[1790.42 --> 1791.16]  dashboard or something
+[1791.16 --> 1791.82]  that I could just
+[1791.82 --> 1792.62]  tap with my phone
+[1792.62 --> 1792.96]  maybe.
+[1793.66 --> 1794.68]  I haven't done it but
+[1794.68 --> 1795.22]  I've been thinking
+[1795.22 --> 1795.70]  about it.
+[1796.18 --> 1796.58]  I've been thinking
+[1796.58 --> 1797.14]  about that too.
+[1797.20 --> 1797.84]  I actually have an
+[1797.84 --> 1798.70]  NFC tag at the
+[1798.70 --> 1800.06]  door out the
+[1800.06 --> 1800.78]  studio so on my
+[1800.78 --> 1801.28]  way out the
+[1801.28 --> 1802.36]  studio I can tap it
+[1802.36 --> 1803.10]  and right now it
+[1803.10 --> 1803.70]  just kind of sends
+[1803.70 --> 1804.40]  like an alert to the
+[1804.40 --> 1805.86]  wife with an ETA
+[1805.86 --> 1807.04]  and all of that kind
+[1807.04 --> 1807.98]  of stuff you know
+[1807.98 --> 1808.82]  based on my location
+[1808.82 --> 1810.28]  and her location but
+[1810.28 --> 1810.96]  I have been thinking
+[1810.96 --> 1811.58]  man it'd be pretty
+[1811.58 --> 1812.98]  great to tie that in
+[1812.98 --> 1814.22]  with the heating and
+[1814.22 --> 1815.12]  the lighting check to
+[1815.12 --> 1815.72]  see if it's on or
+[1815.72 --> 1815.98]  not.
+[1816.54 --> 1817.80]  NFC tags and all of
+[1817.80 --> 1819.06]  that is probably still
+[1819.06 --> 1820.28]  the most underutilized
+[1820.28 --> 1821.62]  area because on iOS
+[1821.62 --> 1823.78]  it kind of sucks and I
+[1823.78 --> 1824.48]  think it's similar on
+[1824.48 --> 1825.22]  Android but not quite
+[1825.22 --> 1825.88]  the same where on
+[1825.88 --> 1827.26]  iOS it just brings up
+[1827.26 --> 1827.74]  as far as I
+[1827.74 --> 1828.62]  understand it a
+[1828.62 --> 1829.68]  notification prompt
+[1829.68 --> 1830.34]  that you then have to
+[1830.34 --> 1832.64]  tap to execute the
+[1832.64 --> 1834.46]  NFC automation and
+[1834.46 --> 1835.12]  that just sounds like
+[1835.12 --> 1835.52]  garbage.
+[1836.04 --> 1837.00]  Not true on Android I
+[1837.00 --> 1838.06]  just tap the tag and
+[1838.06 --> 1839.02]  my garage door opens
+[1839.02 --> 1839.58]  it's amazing.
+[1840.26 --> 1840.94]  That's what I want.
+[1841.34 --> 1842.32]  I can kind of see
+[1842.32 --> 1843.52]  maybe why Apple did it
+[1843.52 --> 1844.30]  this way for
+[1844.30 --> 1846.02]  novices who you
+[1846.02 --> 1846.76]  know they don't they
+[1846.76 --> 1847.46]  don't want to execute
+[1847.46 --> 1848.30]  stuff randomly on
+[1848.30 --> 1850.44]  their phone but man
+[1850.44 --> 1852.22]  I totally appreciate
+[1852.22 --> 1853.24]  that but I just would
+[1853.24 --> 1854.16]  love a setting to say
+[1854.16 --> 1855.28]  don't require user
+[1855.28 --> 1855.78]  interaction.
+[1856.12 --> 1856.22]  Yeah.
+[1856.34 --> 1857.38]  It just sort of kills
+[1857.38 --> 1857.78]  the usefulness.
+[1857.90 --> 1859.02]  I have also here on
+[1859.02 --> 1860.42]  the studio mixer I
+[1860.42 --> 1861.94]  have an NFC tag because
+[1861.94 --> 1862.74]  for some reason
+[1862.74 --> 1863.60]  Behringer thought it'd
+[1863.60 --> 1864.42]  be a great idea to put
+[1864.42 --> 1865.70]  a like a phone holder
+[1865.70 --> 1866.74]  on the mixer because
+[1866.74 --> 1867.46]  the ideas are going to
+[1867.46 --> 1867.84]  use like their
+[1867.84 --> 1868.78]  touchscreen app on your
+[1868.78 --> 1870.94]  phone and so I have a
+[1870.94 --> 1871.58]  spot where my phone
+[1871.58 --> 1873.88]  sits and I just put an
+[1873.88 --> 1874.80]  NFC tag in that spot
+[1874.80 --> 1875.86]  just set my phone to
+[1875.86 --> 1877.32]  D&D and turn on the
+[1877.32 --> 1878.24]  studio lights which are
+[1878.24 --> 1879.14]  on home assistant and
+[1879.14 --> 1879.66]  all that.
+[1880.66 --> 1881.44]  Oli wrote into the
+[1881.44 --> 1882.44]  holiday mailbag and
+[1882.44 --> 1883.16]  said I'm a long time
+[1883.16 --> 1883.98]  listener occasional
+[1883.98 --> 1885.22]  disc order from Norway
+[1885.22 --> 1886.88]  and we talk about
+[1886.88 --> 1887.58]  storage setups on the
+[1887.58 --> 1888.46]  show a little bit but
+[1888.46 --> 1889.14]  I'd love you to go into
+[1889.14 --> 1890.46]  some details with
+[1890.46 --> 1891.88]  setups ranging from
+[1891.88 --> 1892.70]  smaller setups to
+[1892.70 --> 1893.26]  bigger setups.
+[1893.74 --> 1894.10]  Do you have any
+[1894.10 --> 1895.18]  strategies deciding on
+[1895.18 --> 1896.66]  what you invest in?
+[1897.30 --> 1898.28]  My backups are going to
+[1898.28 --> 1899.44]  backblaze but I'm
+[1899.44 --> 1900.48]  rethinking things a little
+[1900.48 --> 1901.18]  bit and I think I want
+[1901.18 --> 1901.88]  more sane local
+[1901.88 --> 1903.16]  storage but I'm a
+[1903.16 --> 1903.84]  little put off at the
+[1903.84 --> 1904.18]  price.
+[1905.20 --> 1905.80]  What would be a sweet
+[1905.80 --> 1906.56]  spot in terms of
+[1906.56 --> 1908.00]  discs and storage for
+[1908.00 --> 1909.18]  about an 8 terabyte
+[1909.18 --> 1910.42]  media collection as
+[1910.42 --> 1910.94]  well as some more
+[1910.94 --> 1912.00]  personal media like
+[1912.00 --> 1913.26]  photos that I just
+[1913.26 --> 1914.02]  don't want to lose?
+[1914.42 --> 1915.02]  Any links would be
+[1915.02 --> 1915.44]  great too.
+[1915.84 --> 1916.78]  Man this question was
+[1916.78 --> 1917.76]  made for me wasn't it?
+[1917.88 --> 1919.00]  It really was.
+[1919.34 --> 1921.74]  So perfectmediaserver.com
+[1921.74 --> 1923.84]  first of all I think is
+[1923.84 --> 1925.14]  where I will send you in
+[1925.14 --> 1926.96]  the first instance to
+[1926.96 --> 1927.52]  look at the software
+[1927.52 --> 1928.20]  side of things.
+[1928.80 --> 1930.06]  I will be building up the
+[1930.06 --> 1931.04]  hardware recommendations
+[1931.04 --> 1932.12]  section of that site
+[1932.12 --> 1932.80]  over the next few
+[1932.80 --> 1935.06]  months but really I
+[1935.06 --> 1935.86]  would just take a look
+[1935.86 --> 1937.06]  at serverbuilds.net.
+[1937.38 --> 1938.82]  They have some amazing
+[1938.82 --> 1940.84]  used enterprise gear and
+[1940.84 --> 1942.06]  I know it's quite a US
+[1942.06 --> 1944.28]  centric website but you
+[1944.28 --> 1945.16]  can still get a lot of
+[1945.16 --> 1946.26]  good ideas about what to
+[1946.26 --> 1947.34]  use like QuickSync for
+[1947.34 --> 1949.08]  example that that came
+[1949.08 --> 1950.42]  from JDM the guy behind
+[1950.42 --> 1951.40]  that site who we've had on
+[1951.40 --> 1953.32]  the show before and just
+[1953.32 --> 1953.98]  take a look at what
+[1953.98 --> 1954.86]  they're doing and the
+[1954.86 --> 1956.12]  trends and the way the
+[1956.12 --> 1957.34]  industry is going with
+[1957.34 --> 1958.48]  what those guys are doing
+[1958.48 --> 1959.26]  over there at server
+[1959.26 --> 1961.32]  builds and I think you
+[1961.32 --> 1961.96]  can probably get away
+[1961.96 --> 1963.56]  with a fairly minimal
+[1963.56 --> 1964.38]  kind of setup.
+[1964.54 --> 1965.06]  So you've got 8
+[1965.06 --> 1966.16]  terabytes worth of stuff
+[1966.16 --> 1967.78]  you want to store so I
+[1967.78 --> 1969.16]  would buy a hard drive
+[1969.16 --> 1971.46]  that is at least 8
+[1971.46 --> 1972.78]  probably 10 or 12
+[1972.78 --> 1973.74]  terabytes so you've got a
+[1973.74 --> 1975.58]  bit of headroom and buy
+[1975.58 --> 1976.74]  a pair of them so that
+[1976.74 --> 1978.64]  you you know can have
+[1978.64 --> 1980.24]  full redundancy.
+[1981.12 --> 1981.92]  You're already using
+[1981.92 --> 1983.48]  Backblaze so you know
+[1983.48 --> 1985.48]  raid is not backup is a
+[1985.48 --> 1986.70]  very common phrase that
+[1986.70 --> 1987.60]  you'll hear people say.
+[1987.60 --> 1989.60]  Make sure that you have
+[1989.60 --> 1991.96]  everything duplicated in
+[1991.96 --> 1993.82]  at least two different
+[1993.82 --> 1994.82]  physical locations.
+[1995.50 --> 1996.56]  So even if that just
+[1996.56 --> 1998.84]  takes the form of you
+[1998.84 --> 1999.88]  know a USB hard drive
+[1999.88 --> 2000.48]  that you leave at your
+[2000.48 --> 2001.28]  parents house when you
+[2001.28 --> 2002.84]  go and see them one day
+[2002.84 --> 2005.38]  in the future who knows
+[2005.38 --> 2007.92]  you know the world is so
+[2007.92 --> 2009.00]  different right now but
+[2009.00 --> 2011.46]  if it's just a USB hard
+[2011.46 --> 2012.76]  drive in a drawer at a
+[2012.76 --> 2014.02]  parents house then that
+[2014.02 --> 2015.08]  will do the trick as well
+[2015.08 --> 2015.78]  you know in a lot of
+[2015.78 --> 2016.96]  situations unless you
+[2016.96 --> 2019.10]  have lots of media being
+[2019.10 --> 2019.98]  added all the time but
+[2019.98 --> 2020.66]  I don't think that's the
+[2020.66 --> 2021.58]  use case for a lot of
+[2021.58 --> 2021.80]  people.
+[2021.98 --> 2023.68]  I think most people those
+[2023.68 --> 2024.98]  kind of periodical backups
+[2024.98 --> 2026.90]  every three to six
+[2026.90 --> 2028.04]  months is probably
+[2028.04 --> 2028.70]  sufficient.
+[2029.78 --> 2032.52]  So build yourself you
+[2032.52 --> 2035.42]  know a small mini ITX
+[2035.42 --> 2037.80]  couple of bay box and
+[2037.80 --> 2039.62]  you know stick the
+[2039.62 --> 2040.82]  perfect media server stack
+[2040.82 --> 2041.60]  on there and you'll be
+[2041.60 --> 2042.02]  good to go.
+[2042.02 --> 2043.94]  Yeah thankfully eight
+[2043.94 --> 2045.02]  terabytes is a really
+[2045.02 --> 2046.86]  pretty pretty doable
+[2046.86 --> 2047.64]  problem to solve.
+[2048.14 --> 2048.86]  So you know of course
+[2048.86 --> 2049.60]  you want more than that
+[2049.60 --> 2050.34]  you're gonna you know at
+[2050.34 --> 2051.70]  least at least I'd say go
+[2051.70 --> 2053.28]  12 terabytes if not more
+[2053.28 --> 2054.74]  if you already are using
+[2054.74 --> 2056.34]  eight terabytes and you
+[2056.34 --> 2056.90]  could probably even
+[2056.90 --> 2058.84]  justify a bit more than
+[2058.84 --> 2059.06]  that.
+[2059.48 --> 2060.54]  That's some great strategy
+[2060.54 --> 2061.70]  advice right there and
+[2061.70 --> 2062.74]  perfect timing for the
+[2062.74 --> 2064.54]  show too so so best of
+[2064.54 --> 2064.78]  luck.
+[2065.12 --> 2066.20]  I would take a look at
+[2066.20 --> 2069.04]  amazon.de quite often
+[2069.04 --> 2070.94]  have the Western Digital
+[2070.94 --> 2072.28]  what are they called
+[2072.28 --> 2072.68]  over there?
+[2072.98 --> 2073.80]  They're not easy stores
+[2073.80 --> 2074.62]  because they're Best Buy
+[2074.62 --> 2075.74]  like US centric ones
+[2075.74 --> 2077.66]  they're called MyBooks I
+[2077.66 --> 2078.74]  think in Europe.
+[2079.30 --> 2080.66]  You can quite often get
+[2080.66 --> 2082.50]  those for a you know 10
+[2082.50 --> 2084.06]  12 14 terabyte hard drive
+[2084.06 --> 2086.34]  in the 200 250 euro
+[2086.34 --> 2088.16]  range so that would be a
+[2088.16 --> 2089.14]  good place to start it's
+[2089.14 --> 2089.72]  not going to be super
+[2089.72 --> 2090.08]  cheap.
+[2090.74 --> 2092.76]  My philosophy with regards
+[2092.76 --> 2094.84]  to how much local storage
+[2094.84 --> 2096.58]  do I need versus cloud is
+[2096.58 --> 2099.36]  it's up to you right it's
+[2099.36 --> 2101.42]  it's your personal risk
+[2101.42 --> 2103.28]  profile or and how
+[2103.28 --> 2104.84]  important is this data to
+[2104.84 --> 2105.14]  you?
+[2106.04 --> 2106.82]  Are you going to be upset
+[2106.82 --> 2108.44]  if if backblaze and I
+[2108.44 --> 2108.86]  don't know if they're
+[2108.86 --> 2110.28]  going to but if they turn
+[2110.28 --> 2111.60]  around next week and you
+[2111.60 --> 2112.76]  know triple their prices
+[2112.76 --> 2113.36]  what are you going to do
+[2113.36 --> 2114.02]  if that happens?
+[2115.02 --> 2116.16]  If you have a hard drive
+[2116.16 --> 2118.54]  in your closet you know
+[2118.54 --> 2120.40]  up front what that cost is
+[2120.40 --> 2121.20]  going to be what the total
+[2121.20 --> 2122.22]  cost of ownership for that
+[2122.22 --> 2124.10]  that storage is going to be
+[2124.10 --> 2125.04]  and there's there'll be no
+[2125.04 --> 2126.10]  surprises or anything like
+[2126.10 --> 2127.72]  that so I mean you're
+[2127.72 --> 2128.38]  talking to a guy that's got
+[2128.38 --> 2129.36]  100 terabytes in his
+[2129.36 --> 2130.42]  basement so maybe I'm not
+[2130.42 --> 2132.26]  the right guy to speak to
+[2132.26 --> 2132.88]  you know.
+[2133.14 --> 2134.12]  And the other guy who's
+[2134.12 --> 2134.84]  like I need to get more
+[2134.84 --> 2135.88]  disk as fast as possible
+[2135.88 --> 2136.96]  I've only got 12 terabytes
+[2136.96 --> 2138.94]  free right now like yeah
+[2138.94 --> 2141.46]  yeah but really there's so
+[2141.46 --> 2143.56]  many ways to solve it but
+[2143.56 --> 2144.58]  I'd love to hear what you
+[2144.58 --> 2145.78]  do so go to self-hosted
+[2145.78 --> 2146.90]  dot show slash contact to
+[2146.90 --> 2148.50]  update us and then Scott
+[2148.50 --> 2149.32]  wrote in with another
+[2149.32 --> 2150.90]  another question I have a
+[2150.90 --> 2152.14]  sense the audience may have
+[2152.14 --> 2153.30]  a few answers for us so
+[2153.30 --> 2154.42]  keep that contact link in
+[2154.42 --> 2155.88]  mind he says I was hoping
+[2155.88 --> 2156.52]  you could make a
+[2156.52 --> 2158.00]  recommendation for self-hosted
+[2158.00 --> 2160.60]  online cookbook my mother
+[2160.60 --> 2162.34]  has a huge cookbook full of
+[2162.34 --> 2164.48]  old family recipes which I
+[2164.48 --> 2165.52]  would like to digitalize
+[2165.52 --> 2168.16]  ideally with OCR and the
+[2168.16 --> 2169.44]  ability to take and search
+[2169.44 --> 2170.48]  the recipes as well as
+[2170.48 --> 2172.00]  preserving original image of
+[2172.00 --> 2173.36]  the old handwritten family
+[2173.36 --> 2175.60]  recipe Scott I love this
+[2175.60 --> 2177.32]  idea what do you think
+[2177.32 --> 2178.70]  Alex has anything come to
+[2178.70 --> 2180.12]  mind for you well we
+[2180.12 --> 2181.68]  covered chow down a little
+[2181.68 --> 2183.40]  while ago as a self-hosted
+[2183.40 --> 2185.26]  recipes app there is another
+[2185.26 --> 2186.98]  one which whilst we're doing
+[2186.98 --> 2188.44]  this segment I will try and
+[2188.44 --> 2190.02]  find which I can't remember
+[2190.02 --> 2191.86]  right now but there is also
+[2191.86 --> 2194.22]  an old JB project isn't it
+[2194.22 --> 2196.26]  yeah that's true that is true
+[2196.26 --> 2198.56]  there is the the open your
+[2198.56 --> 2200.30]  mouth recipes which we
+[2200.30 --> 2201.56]  actually used GitHub and
+[2201.56 --> 2203.30]  Markdown for those I was
+[2203.30 --> 2204.18]  thinking you know Scott could
+[2204.18 --> 2206.54]  get started with even out any
+[2206.54 --> 2207.96]  without any software selected
+[2207.96 --> 2209.36]  yet by just getting good
+[2209.36 --> 2212.26]  quality captures of those cards
+[2212.26 --> 2213.84]  and he's gonna want probably
+[2213.84 --> 2214.98]  something he can take over to
+[2214.98 --> 2216.90]  grandma's house or mom's house
+[2216.90 --> 2219.98]  or whoever whoever the the
+[2219.98 --> 2220.70]  family members you want to
+[2220.70 --> 2221.60]  capture these from because why
+[2221.60 --> 2223.14]  not get them all right you
+[2223.14 --> 2224.50]  could probably get away with
+[2224.50 --> 2226.56]  something like scan bot or the
+[2226.56 --> 2229.16]  other available scanning apps on
+[2229.16 --> 2230.02]  your phone but you might look
+[2230.02 --> 2231.10]  into scanner options too and
+[2231.10 --> 2232.80]  just start there start getting the
+[2232.80 --> 2234.86]  high quality images from there and
+[2234.86 --> 2237.06]  then the software will come I
+[2237.06 --> 2238.60]  found it okay it's called
+[2238.60 --> 2243.70]  vapeen 1111 slash recipes what a
+[2243.70 --> 2245.68]  catchy name huh it's a Django
+[2245.68 --> 2247.26]  application designed for managing
+[2247.26 --> 2249.96]  recipes and it's a web app so I
+[2249.96 --> 2251.56]  would imagine it runs out of a
+[2251.56 --> 2253.52]  container but it's got a search
+[2253.52 --> 2256.26]  built on top of Django's trigram
+[2256.26 --> 2259.24]  similarity search engine and it
+[2259.24 --> 2260.72]  allows you to create and search for
+[2260.72 --> 2263.28]  tags and assign them in batches to
+[2263.28 --> 2264.64]  certain files matching certain
+[2264.64 --> 2266.90]  criteria it will sync with both
+[2266.90 --> 2269.80]  dropbox and next cloud with more
+[2269.80 --> 2271.62]  support being added every every
+[2271.62 --> 2273.96]  week and you can import lots of
+[2273.96 --> 2275.72]  recipes from different websites
+[2275.72 --> 2278.14]  with JSON objects and stuff like
+[2278.14 --> 2279.94]  that and there are also apps for
+[2279.94 --> 2281.52]  mobile devices like phones and
+[2281.52 --> 2283.96]  tablets so yeah lots and lots of
+[2283.96 --> 2285.80]  stuff in there runs in a docker
+[2285.80 --> 2289.38]  this is what the reddit collective
+[2289.38 --> 2292.98]  thought recommends at the moment so I
+[2292.98 --> 2294.56]  haven't tried this one I just
+[2294.56 --> 2295.72]  haven't got to it but it's on my
+[2295.72 --> 2297.00]  short list so go and take a look at
+[2297.00 --> 2299.10]  that link in the show notes I also
+[2299.10 --> 2302.16]  recall that groceries had a bit of a
+[2302.16 --> 2304.12]  recipe manager I don't recall how
+[2304.12 --> 2306.76]  extensive it was but that's a past
+[2306.76 --> 2308.92]  pick too so we'll put links to all of
+[2308.92 --> 2310.06]  these the one that Alex just talked
+[2310.06 --> 2312.02]  about you could see the example of
+[2312.02 --> 2313.34]  how we used open your mouth on
+[2313.34 --> 2315.08]  github and just made it a community
+[2315.08 --> 2316.30]  project so you could have multiple
+[2316.30 --> 2317.78]  family members that contribute that
+[2317.78 --> 2320.02]  way or perhaps somebody out there will
+[2320.02 --> 2322.34]  know a great software project that we
+[2322.34 --> 2323.86]  haven't mentioned and inform us all
+[2323.86 --> 2325.40]  itself posted that show slash contact
+[2325.40 --> 2327.58]  the last one in our holiday
+[2327.58 --> 2329.82]  extravaganza mailbag here is a jasua
+[2329.82 --> 2332.90]  writes in regarding thoughts that were
+[2332.90 --> 2334.84]  inspired by self hosted episode 33
+[2334.84 --> 2337.58]  triggered by the helio 64 discussion he
+[2337.58 --> 2338.92]  says hey guys I was listening to your
+[2338.92 --> 2340.82]  review of the helio 64 with some
+[2340.82 --> 2342.38]  interest since I am the owner of their
+[2342.38 --> 2344.86]  previous product the helios for I
+[2345.56 --> 2346.92]  believe the points you make about
+[2346.92 --> 2348.84]  software are quite valid yet I'd like to
+[2348.84 --> 2350.46]  point out that there's a really hard
+[2350.46 --> 2353.02]  problem to solve I work personally with
+[2353.02 --> 2355.40]  a company in Israel that makes SBCs and
+[2355.40 --> 2358.62]  SOMs mostly with ARM based system on
+[2358.62 --> 2361.06]  chips it's my job to make Debian
+[2361.06 --> 2362.76]  available for each product to their
+[2362.76 --> 2365.62]  customers long ago when I started I
+[2365.62 --> 2367.12]  really wanted to do this the right way
+[2367.12 --> 2369.14]  I submitted bug reports and patches to
+[2369.14 --> 2370.50]  the Debian project for enabling all
+[2370.50 --> 2373.04]  kinds of small things a kernel.config for
+[2373.04 --> 2374.68]  a driver here a customized boot script
+[2374.68 --> 2377.12]  there enabling open GL ES backends and
+[2377.12 --> 2379.88]  shared libraries and continuously watching
+[2379.88 --> 2382.42]  and testing the distributions for things
+[2382.42 --> 2385.04]  that break turns out I never got to the
+[2385.04 --> 2386.78]  point where I could give customers a
+[2386.78 --> 2388.64]  pure Debian system there's always
+[2388.64 --> 2390.54]  another tweak that I had to carry out
+[2390.54 --> 2392.78]  of tree so to this day I'm creating
+[2392.78 --> 2394.54]  block device images with custom kernel
+[2394.54 --> 2397.54]  packages integrated binary blobs and
+[2397.54 --> 2398.96]  maybe a systemd service for loading
+[2398.96 --> 2401.12]  Bluetooth firmware and even patch parts
+[2401.12 --> 2404.06]  of X or Wayland so why do I tell you
+[2404.06 --> 2406.10]  all of this well the reason being for a
+[2406.10 --> 2407.74]  new product it takes time and
+[2407.74 --> 2410.10]  continued effort for mainlining all the
+[2410.10 --> 2411.94]  things and the experience can differ
+[2411.94 --> 2414.38]  largely by a particular SoC in your
+[2414.38 --> 2416.64]  hands and you'll find that despite even
+[2416.64 --> 2417.84]  when the vendor does everything right
+[2417.84 --> 2420.14]  it's still not perfect to really solve
+[2420.14 --> 2421.48]  this problem there has to be a way for
+[2421.48 --> 2423.14]  hardware makers who are both capable and
+[2423.14 --> 2424.76]  willing to do the work to achieve
+[2424.76 --> 2426.26]  something greater than what I was able
+[2426.26 --> 2429.18]  to do in my job in his opinion it's just
+[2429.18 --> 2430.74]  not there yet he says Alex that the
+[2430.74 --> 2433.64]  ecosystem just can't support the kind of
+[2433.64 --> 2435.64]  rapid support that the hardware needs at
+[2435.64 --> 2437.38]  this stage and you know after reading
+[2437.38 --> 2439.46]  this I was thinking look at the
+[2439.46 --> 2441.98]  Raspberry Pi it's been around forever
+[2441.98 --> 2443.34]  and of course they've had iterations
+[2443.34 --> 2445.26]  that have changed things but you really
+[2445.26 --> 2447.82]  still even there you kind of have to get
+[2447.82 --> 2451.38]  an image that's at least been tested
+[2451.38 --> 2453.58]  for the Raspberry Pi you can now get the
+[2453.58 --> 2455.68]  Ubuntu ARM image and it will boot on the
+[2455.68 --> 2457.98]  Raspberry Pi but that's only just recently
+[2457.98 --> 2459.96]  it's and it's really not there with all
+[2459.96 --> 2462.10]  distros yeah you make a good point I
+[2462.10 --> 2464.76]  mean the Ubuntu image for the Pi 4 has
+[2464.76 --> 2466.96]  made a big difference for me to the
+[2466.96 --> 2468.94]  overall kind of feel of it being a real
+[2468.94 --> 2472.34]  air quotes a real device and it's now in
+[2472.34 --> 2474.22]  production for me I'm using it as Pi KVM
+[2474.22 --> 2476.76]  which ironically runs on Arch but anyway
+[2476.76 --> 2479.56]  yeah I agree with you I mean I ended up
+[2479.56 --> 2481.50]  getting ZFS working on the Helios 64
+[2481.50 --> 2484.66]  after the review in the end it was a few
+[2484.66 --> 2486.56]  days it was a kernel update and DKMS
+[2486.56 --> 2489.50]  started working again but yeah I just
+[2489.50 --> 2492.50]  don't know how without you know an
+[2492.50 --> 2494.58]  Apple level of control over both the
+[2494.58 --> 2496.54]  hardware and software you could ever hope
+[2496.54 --> 2499.98]  to solve this problem fully slow but
+[2499.98 --> 2501.82]  steady there are standards like server
+[2501.82 --> 2505.38]  ready that try to solve this more for the
+[2505.38 --> 2507.40]  data center but those lessons could be
+[2507.40 --> 2508.94]  learned in the consumer devices but
+[2508.94 --> 2511.30]  there's just not necessarily the vendor
+[2511.30 --> 2513.42]  buy-in and there's not necessarily the
+[2513.42 --> 2515.26]  vendor buy-in to support the development
+[2515.26 --> 2516.66]  right that's an area where they could
+[2516.66 --> 2518.58]  apply a little bit of leverage they could
+[2518.58 --> 2520.50]  hire people to just write the code and
+[2520.50 --> 2522.12]  contribute it more and participate in
+[2522.12 --> 2525.34]  these projects but it's only it's only so
+[2525.34 --> 2528.40]  scalable and it's really not a problem we
+[2528.40 --> 2531.76]  have on the x86 side of things we're so
+[2531.76 --> 2534.70]  kind of swept up by the power usage of arm
+[2534.70 --> 2538.06]  or the small size form factor or the price
+[2538.06 --> 2540.84]  point I think we forget some of the
+[2540.84 --> 2542.68]  luxuries that we've gained over the years
+[2542.68 --> 2545.04]  with the x86 platform it just works you
+[2545.04 --> 2546.24]  don't have to think about it you don't
+[2546.24 --> 2550.18]  have to grab a special version of a linux
+[2550.18 --> 2553.12]  distro or windows or whatever it is to
+[2553.12 --> 2556.46]  to run on it and with apple changing to
+[2556.46 --> 2560.16]  arm you know based cpus it is that's the
+[2560.16 --> 2561.84]  first real departure that mainstream
+[2561.84 --> 2565.72]  computing has seen from x86 instruction
+[2565.72 --> 2568.78]  sets for 15 years yep and I think that's
+[2568.78 --> 2572.36]  going to influence hopefully in five years
+[2572.36 --> 2574.82]  time or so the rest of the industry will
+[2574.82 --> 2576.60]  will be in a similar position to where
+[2576.60 --> 2578.30]  apple are now with that kind of level of
+[2578.30 --> 2580.82]  integration of course apple will be five
+[2580.82 --> 2582.44]  years further down the road by then so
+[2582.44 --> 2584.42]  who knows maybe they'll never catch up
+[2584.42 --> 2587.32]  but it's a really interesting time for
+[2587.32 --> 2590.08]  sure and I really want to support these
+[2590.08 --> 2593.20]  guys doing these projects like like
+[2593.20 --> 2596.06]  COBOL you know they're a small team you
+[2596.06 --> 2597.24]  know they're not they're not doing this
+[2597.24 --> 2599.04]  to become millionaires overnight you know
+[2599.04 --> 2600.70]  it's they're doing it for the love I'm
+[2600.70 --> 2603.22]  sure and they made a really great
+[2603.22 --> 2605.10]  product it just missed in a few key areas
+[2605.10 --> 2607.22]  so I wanted to let some of the listeners
+[2607.22 --> 2611.36]  know that I will be selling my Helios 64
+[2611.36 --> 2613.50]  so if you're interested in the market just
+[2613.50 --> 2615.82]  let me know via Twitter you know you'd
+[2615.82 --> 2616.88]  have to wait for it to ship or anything
+[2616.88 --> 2618.78]  for the next batch we'll sort something
+[2618.78 --> 2620.32]  out just leave a little stink on it when
+[2620.32 --> 2621.58]  you ship it out let's make it real
+[2621.58 --> 2623.84]  special okay get a little bit of your
+[2623.84 --> 2626.00]  stink on there I'll sign the inside in
+[2626.00 --> 2629.90]  Tippex or something how about that I want
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