A tale of three broadcasters
CairnsBlog contributing writer Sid Walker takes an unexplained bomb to the ABC...
I am one of growing number of people around the world who believes the western mass media is deeply dishonest about some very important topics.
I believe something must be done to rectify this - urgently.
Sad to say, the mass media's tendency to report selectively is not confined to commercial media.
In this tale, written from an Australian perspective, I'll review an incident that took place overseas several years ago - and the remarkable failure of Australia's premier public broadcaster to report the story.
Then I'll look at equivalent public broadcasters, in Britain and the USA, to examine their bizarre reportage of the same extraordinary event.
Publicly-funded mass media can - and should - survive only if they enjoy widespread confidence. Why should the public fund media which lies about very important topics - matters of life and death? Read on - and judge for yourself whether the tangled web woven by these three mass media organizations is evidence of deliberate deception.
All Quiet at the ABC
This is the story of a 47-story building, in a world-famous city, that collapsed several years ago. The collapse was not 'intended' - in the sense that this was no listed demolition site. It was a busy office building, occupied by working staff until the previous day. Then, a little more than six years ago, it simply collapsed.
If you think that's odd, hold on tight... there's more...
As far as I can observe from a search of the ABC's public web archive, the unexpected collapse of this rather large building has never once been reported by the Australian Broadcasting Corporation.
That's right! A large building (World Trade Center Building 7 - also known as the Salomon Building) drops to the ground in daylight. It was a massive steel-framed concrete construction - built to last. After what appeared to be a localized fire lasting a few hours, the entire structure fell neatly in its own footprint at near free-fall velocity.
Finally, and quite amazingly, "Our" ABC simply ignores the incident. Trawling the archives of the ABC website as best I can, I've found:
- No investigative report of the collapse of WTC-7
- No profile of the building and its strange history
- No report on the ongoing mysteries surrounding its collapse
- No report on its rapid rebuilding & re-opening
A couple of qualifications are in order. First, if I missed the story in the ABC's archives, I do apologize and would like to put the record straight. I did find one obscure mention of WTC-7 in an edited ABC talkboard (although re-checking more recently, I'm unable to locate even that). On that particular page, I recall a participant from the general public mentioned the unexplained collapse once. There may be more references to find on the ABC site - but they certainly don't 'stand out'.
Second, it is possible the story was reported by the ABC - but that report has not been added to the public web archive. Probably not all ABC reports get archived? Yet the archive is quite comprehensive for major 21st century stories. Big news items are almost always recorded for posterity. Take, for example, the massive blaze that lasted many hours in the Madrid Windsor Building in 2005 (which incidentally didn't cause the building to fall) . Coverage of that incident can be found easily when searching the ABC's website.
In summary, not one significant report about World Trade Center 7, the remarkable 47-storey collapsing building, seems to have survived (if it ever existed) in the ABC archives.
In case you weren't previously aware of the event under discussion, WTC-7 collapsed in the late afternoon of September 11th 2001. A smaller building than the Twin Towers (WTC 1 & 2), it was partially on fire for only a few hours before falling to the ground.
Now of course, the collapse of the Twin Towers was widely reported by the Australian media. You may feel therefore consider, as the demise of their smaller sibling resulted in no apparent loss of life, that not reporting WTC-7's mysterious drop was a permissible oversight. Perhaps so.
Before making a judgment about that, let's review equivalent coverage by the ABC's sibling organizations.
Precognition at the BBC
Australia's ABC was largely based on its British counterpart, the well-respected BBC – a veritable institution of public broadcasting with increasingly global reach.
How did the BBC dealt with the collapse of WTC-7? Did it also ignore the event?
Not at all! The BBC covered the collapse on the day, quite promptly. The remarkable thing, it turns out, is how promptly!
Early in 2007, a sharp-eyed skeptic trawling through tapes of the BBC's live media coverage of the 9-11 atrocity, discovered to his amazement that the BBC actually reported the collapse half an hour before it happened!
You read that right.
This extraordinary, quite unprecedented collapse of a steel-framed concrete tower block - an event essentially unreported by Australia's mass media - was noted by the flagship British broadcaster in advance.
When the footage in question was brought to the attention of the BBC (and tens of thousands of interested citizens around the world who track the mystery of 9-11 via the internet) , the discovery caused quite a stir at BBC HQ. Unable to deny the accuracy of the video footage or its astonishing timing, the BBC eventually settled on the position the premature report was simply a 'mistake'.
The BBC's News Editor attempted damage limitation partly by rebutting 'conspiracy theories' about the overly-prescient report in his official BBC blog. He has permitted (moderated) reader responses to be posted. See them here and here. Nearly a year later, alarmed, angry and concerned people are still demanding an adequate explanation from the BBC. It doesn't seem we're going to get one... anytime soon.
Significantly, the BBC hasn't reported on its own miraculous reporting in on BBC news or current affairs (nor has 'Our' ABC for that matter). You'll only find out about this story if you are looking for it.
Precognition at the Beeb? Nothing to see here, folks! Move along!
Admission on PBS
So, perhaps the ABC was right to be cautious about telling the tale of WTC-7? The story is a minefield for public broadcasters!
Even so, after a seemly six year delay, perhaps there's an opportunity for the ABC to break its silence on the topic and leap-frog the competition? It's about time Australian journalists got a real scoop.
If the ABC does investigate the case, a call to the influential and well-resourced Lowy Institute for International Policy might be useful.
Scarcely a week goes by without the Lowy Institute pronouncing on one or other of the topics de jour… climate change, terrorism, the world economy etc. The ABC runs frequent stories about the Lowy Institute's latest opinions, which it seems to hold in very high regard.
The Lowy Institute was founded by billionaire-philanthropist Frank Lowy. Sometimes described as the richest Australian, Lowy had a long and interesting career that included a spell, early on, as a warrior in the Haganah during the Israeli 'War of Independence' (which others call the Nakba). Lowy settled in Australia in the 1950s and became a shopping center magnate.
Lowy's global corporation Westfield has been exceptionally successful in the USA, where it operates under the name of 'Westfield America'.
In 1997, Larry Silverstein was appointed to the board of Westfield America.Now, Larry Silverstein was the leaseholder on WTC 7 – and also the leaseholder for the Twin Towers – at the time of the September 11th mass murder.
Silverstein was interviewed by America's public broadcaster (PBS) a year or so after the attacks. In that interview, he made the extraordinary statement that the order was given during the afternoon of September 11th to 'pull' WTC-7.
Now, that remark implies that the building was pre-rigged with explosives – a very odd suggestion indeed. A controlled demolition of a tower block cannot be carried out in a few hours. It requires days, if not weeks, of careful preparation.
America's mainstream media hasn't followed up Silverstein's gob-smacking admission. Perhaps it feels he deserves a little privacy to get on with his life? Nor, it seems, have the US law enforcement authorities bothered him unduly.
However, Australia's very own Frank Lowy is presumably on first name terms with the New York developer. Frank must be able to pick up the phone and ask Larry exactly what happened with WTC-7 and what he meant by 'pull it'.
Publishing Larry's clarification might just give this aspiring research organization a world exclusive.
at Sunday, December 30, 2007 Posted by Michael P Moore Labels: Blogs, Climate, Internet
Apparently they found an entire spaceship full of aliens near an airfield in the US some (60) sixty years ago and yes, you got it, that damn government mouthpiece ABC didn't say a single word about it. AND NOW THEY WALK AMONGST US!
Don't you just love conspiracy theories.
And now for another shower from Piers Walker..............
Sun Dec 30, 11:59:00 am
I stayed up all night 9/11 watching live, there was a report with footage showing flight 93 landing & passengers disembarking. This plane never crashed as later reported. Also it was obvious no plane hit pentagon.
wtc is big news overseas. Anon above obivously does not know much about sutff, eh?
Sun Dec 30, 01:36:00 pm
Oh, I reckon they did talk about it, if the Roswell fable is what you refer to. Too much, in my opinion. What is your point? Possibly there is no conspiracy at all with WTC7. The author is calling attention to the fact that it seems to be treated as non-news, when in fact, no matter what happened, whatever did happen is certainly news and should be reported to the public.
Gosh, you do gotta love those conspiracy theeerists. Just show me the proof that our governments can undermine their own people somehow.
Go ahead, I'll give you some time.
Geez, what are they going to believe next...that husbands can kill their own wives or even children?
The ignorant masses think if they stick the word "conspiracy" on something, it makes all the facts go away.
Thinking they are so very clever and cute, they merely reveal themselves are fools.
"Apparently they found an entire spaceship full of aliens near an airfield in the US some (60) sixty years ago and..."
Did they happen to find your brain in it?
That would be news.
There's only one important question concerning the attacks, did the US gov't allow/participate in 9/11?
The answer to that query would explain the illegal wire-taps, suspension of habeas corpus, banning of books like "America Deceived" from Amazon, detaining of dissenters in fences miles away from events, and multiple wars based on lies.
How can the gov't be innocent in 9/11 when we have caught it lying so many times (WACO, Ruby Ridge, no WMDs, USS Liberty, Operation Northwoods, Gulf of Tonkin, Pearl Harbor, ETC.)?
In law, if you determine a person lies ONCE during his testimony, it can be assumed that he lied in the remainder of his testimony. How come we do not hold the gov't to the same standard as it holds us to?
The gov't lied to us about Iraq and more Americans have died there than in 9/11. If the gov't lied about Iraq then why is everyone so reluctant to believe that the gov't lied about 9/11?
Final link (before Google Books bends to pressure and drops the title):
America Deceived (book)
Maybe there is a confidential reason these buildings are outfitted with demolition charges throughout, in the event that they must be quickly pulled? This would explain Silverstein's revelation and also the odd hush afterwards. After all, we wouldn't really want people (terrorists) attempting to trigger these pre-fitted charges on their own timetable.
The actual 9-11 commission conclusions resemble more of conspiracy theory then what you just consumed. And just like someone that is either unable to weigh provable facts for fear of having to do something that you would be morally obligated to do something about you would rather use innuendo and name calling to smear people that would like to know how building just falls down. You can use Popular mechanics if you like or NIST but they have proved to be fabricated and un-provable by people that have letters after their names.
A major collapse of my BBQ grill when fully loaded would be a major set back, so if for no other reason I am confident that myself along with many other BBQ coinsures in our great nation would be more then grateful to know if physics has changed, if steels melting point has dropped, if high concentrations of sulfur is not a residue that relates directly thermate.
The chem-e's from Islamic jihad have always wanted a real test environment.
Then there was the concomitant case of a war/invasion/occupation to demolish WMD (as in ABC Atomic, Biological & Chemical weapons) in a country that had none. ???
Mysterious sh*t going down, for sure.
Ekk
P.S. No connection/conspiracy of course ...
An then there was the concomitant case of a war/invasion/occupation to demolish WMD (as in ABC Atomic, Biological & Chemical weapons) in a country that had none. ???
Mysterious shit going down, for sure.
An insightful analysis of the silent hand controlling the mainstream media. Collapsing WTC7 was a case of destroying the evidence, so the Zionist owners would not only get US opinion on their side to fight their wars, but also collect on the massive insurance fraud. Our attorney General Mukasey made sure the insurance claim went through for Larry.
You gotta love conspiracies!
Did you hear the one about nineteen Arabs with box cutters and a guy with a towel on his head? Some kooks think these people did 9/11 by themselves. With no help from any government! If you believe this, please ask the medical staff to adjust your dosage... and maybe lay off the net for a while.
I like how these comment shills never speak to any of the points being made.
Of course that's because the point is valid. If 9/11 skeptics really were crazy as these shills would have us believe, then it would be easy to prove it.
And yet, nobody has been able to speak any truth to the inconsistencies in the official 9/11 story. Nobody has explained the record volume of put options placed on American and United just before 9/11, and nobody has explained the near-instant removal of the debris from the NYC site. It should come as no surprise that WTC7's story is equally full of holes.
Until someone speaks to these points, I cannot take seriously anyone who defends the official story.
Exploding across the Internet in one of the biggest bombshells to date, is the thoughts from a man who has had inside knowledge of these kinds of things since the get-go. He's also dying from cancer and has nothing left to lose. He's been an insider to the intelligence community for decades and well-respected in Italy. He says, along with himself, that it's now a common belief among current intelligence people that 9/11 was, indeed, an inside job!
He's one of the people who revealed the existence of a top-secret CIA plan in Europe during the cold war that used "false-flag" operations designed to paint any pro-Soviet groups in Europe as terrorists. This was a careful scheme to plant double agents within the lefty ranks and also to use bombing and assassination to make those commies look evil to the general population (somethings never change). The plan was called Operation Gladio.
Cossiga revealed all of this to the Italian Parliament in the year 2000. His honesty and integrity over the entire matter made him beloved by his people and yet the powers that be, used his revelations to force him out of office for exposing the real deal. Now, he's saying that the attack on the US was an obvious false flag event staged by the CIA along with the Israeli Mossad to give them an excuse to do what they will in the Mideast:
Can you say "I am a FUCKING DOLT?"
C'mon, let's do it together, now-I KNOW you can. "I am a Fucking Dolt!" There you go, you're getting better! Every morning when you wake up, to go to your mindless, fucking job-if you have one-say that to yourself in the mirror. This way, you can justify your totally fucking insignificant meaning in the scheme of the world. Do the world a favor-keep the hole in your face closed.
Yes; to implicate Jews in the crimes committed on 9-11 is as crazy as imagining aliens from another planet exist in Arizona. Except for these rather obvious differences: Jews actually exist, and the references made in this editorial are factual. Perhaps Anonymous can explain the "pull it" comment, and then defend the BBC's prophetic reporting of WT7's collapse.
very thought provoking article. Thank you.
The 47 story building No 7 collapsed in 6.7 seconds at about 5.20 pm on 11th September 2001 and was not hit by a plane. the Congressional Committee did not even mention it. There is ample expert material to state that it was blown "up". For the serious; There is ample confirmation of that e.g. go to scholars for 911truth and justice or, say; 911 blogger.com.
This material has been continually been sent to the ABC over the last 2.5. years. They do not even acknowlege the leads.
It is crystal clear that there is a msm blackout on any competent and objective discussion anout the murders on 9/11. The ABC is as culpable as the private press and the day will come when they have to account for the deceitful omissions on the proper reporting and investigation of 9/11. Have they ever replayed the collapse of that buiding? See also the blogs at the BBC under Richard Porter (Part of the conspiracy parfts 1 and 2) and the explanation for the loss of the archival Jane Standley 'clairvoyant' tapes.
For those who are Bush believers and swollow the "Bush Believers Nutty conspircay theory that 19 Arabs did it",I sincerely suggest that you do your research on the net and through published expert reports. Im Australia you can start with Frank (??) Legge from WA and soon to come will be Dr. David Leifer from the University of Sydney architecture department. In summary the scientists can prove that two tower and buildin No 7 were blown up; as they fell at almost freefall speed and the concrete was pulverised. Drop concrete from a defined height and see for yourself that it does not pulverize and turn to dust. To do that one needs extra energy imput, the only explanaation if explosives.
Best start with the site: Patriotsquestion911.com, there you see the architects and engineers named plus many others. 9/11 was an inside murder job, Australians died that day and the ABC could not give a stuff about finding the truth, nor does the Federal Government. So; believe 'your ABC? I think not.
Mallee
sorry if this is a repeat.
One would think that the U.S.' recovery from the "attacks" of 9/11 would be big news. After all, what better revenge against the "terrorists" than to REBUILD the buildings which were brought down on that day? Wouldn't that be cause for great national celebration?!
Observation: I have not seen one single story or picture, on ANY network television station, about the new building located where WT7 formerly stood. I never saw one single clip about it's planning, construction progress, or it's "grand opening."
Isn't that just a little bit strange?!
Well what amazes one is the strategy applied by those rubbishing anything that is typically reported by corporate media is proved false, all you can see from them is smalltalk and cliches invloving "aliens".
You need to comeup with a new strategy rather than use the strategy of using outrageous cliches.
The free-fall speed, the fact it had no reason whatsoever to fall, and the fact of so many other bizarre coincidenes that day are enough to convince me this building fell to a controlled demolition.
I would not be at all surprised at Silverstein's foreknowledge one little bit either, but the importance of the "pull it" quote is overstated by 9-11 truthers, just as it was under investigated by 9-11 ostrich-media; it's an extremely vague phrase.
For those interested in assaying whether Jews use the media, business, and political channels to ethnic ends, thre is no better resource than Jewish Tribal Review, found at http://www.jewishtribalreview.org/
Or their magnificent book-record, When Victims Rule, found here:
http://www.jewishtribalreview.org/wvr.htm
See also the Jewish people's primary religious document (not the Old Testament, racist enough as that is - see John Hartung's site: http://strugglesforexistence.com/ ), but the Talmud:
http://www.come-and-hear.com/navigate.html
Open minds everybody!
Jefferson said there is no truth we should fear.
There was an article at GeorgeWashington's, that included an interview with an ex NYT reporter's fictional romance (Clansyesqe) theme traking 911. It was a pretty interesting interview,(this one is very interesting) and I had some questions for George but could not bring myself to submitting for Giggel Blig I D.
George, there are a lot of things about this guy that are suspect. First, as an NYT best selling author, we know one thing: He tows the Zio-Line. You don't get on that list unless the phalanx has been skinned and tattooed with an inverted overlay of two equilateral triangles.
On the surface, he seems to be playing devil's advocate: Buffering and marginalizing the truth with a Clancyesque romantic fiction thriller. I remember way back when a cutesy Zio Facilitator was, Little Green Snot Balls (or something like that) was publishing videos of "orbs" fluttering around the collapsing WTCs.
Here's what you should have asked:
GW: What about the fact that navigation instructions could be uploaded to commercial airliner autopilot control systems?
GW: What about the fact that the FAA, in the summer of 2000, implemented a new policy to turn off primary radar at FAA towers?
The FAA even complained:
"In the rush to modernize enroute centers, we must retain current system safeguards, such as primary radar which FAA plans to deactivate beginning June 2000.Primary radar is the least sophisticated type of surveillance, but it is the only tool currently available to detect aircraft or objects without an operating transponder. If a plane is equipped with a transponder, it can fail for many reasons, including electrical and mechanical failure; however, pilots can also choose not to turn them on. You can imagine that people involved in illegal activities would certainly like to keep themselves invisible and that's what will happen if primary radar is turned off."
Note: This means that planes without transponders could not be seen on the scopes. You can have anonymous flights.
GW: What about the fact that 2 months before 911, the FAA rescinded a 40 year old "rule" order that allowed pilots to carry weapons?
GW: What about the fact that no Arab names were found on the flight manifests, and no Arab DNA found in the autopsies, for any of the alleged hijacked flights?
GW: What about the fact that the Taliban met with UNOCAL and the US Department of Energy in August 2001 to negotiate a pipeline right of way through Afghanistan?
GW: What about the military stand down orders issued on 911?
GW: What about the fact that all the airports the alleged 911 flights departed from were under contract to Israeli security companies?
GW: What about the fact that Bin Ladden denied he had any role in the 911 attacks?
But most glaring of all was his response to this question:
GW: My father-in-law says that people predicted Peak Oil decades ago, and were proven wrong. Does the discovery of the massive new oil reserve in Brazil change your conviction that Peak Oil is upon us?
SA: Unless it is as big as Ghawar ... no. Oil IS running out. If not, do you seriously believe we'd have invaded Iraq?
Iraq was not about securing an oil supply. Iraq is only about extortion for a trillion dollars a year of fraudulent defense procurements stolen paid for by the good faith and credit of American citizens. It had nothing to do with dwindling supplies. The world has been in an oil glut. I worked the oil patch before, on and after 911. The only problem the with oil was where to store it all!
The market manipulation began when Bush decided "we" needed to fill the petroleum reserve, the price went up 10$ a barrel when that was announced. But it wasn't high enough. The war, if anything , has cut oil supplies, and still we are in a glut. We don't have an energy crisis, we have an energy NON-crisis!
The war is about money for the fascist corporate elite. Period.
I hope this author isn't a little green football kicker. It just seems there were so many other questions to ask. There is a time line. There is a civil suit.
And besides, anybody with half a brain knows who the real criminals are!
I hope this "light at the end of the tunnel" is not a fusion flash to burn the books.
Posting this nonsense makes the owner of this blog, Michael Moore, look extremely foolish and ignorant.
One step forward, and a dozen steps back. This Sid guy must have "something" on you, huh Mr. Moore?
Don't forget about that "unsolved" Anthrax attack (which used US Military Grade Anthrax, of course).
As an Australian i can only hope the ABC reads this Cairnsblog by Sid Walker - someone will tell them, for i too have long noticed that their sin/s of omission about WTC7 are equally shared by SBS and the commercial TV stations.
They indeed are a phalanx moving in lockstep with the military towards achieving the NWO goal as decreed by the Tel Aviv/Washington/London axis. The axis-of-evil as asserted by GWB; Iraq, Iran and Nth Korea was mere projection onto designated enemies to distract from the true axis-of-evil cancer as nurtured by the ABC and other main media in Australia without whom there could be no NWO.
For the shill who started the comments with the theme of `entire spaceship full of aliens` and also others with their own thread disrupters, perhaps he and they could have a look at the still smoking WTC ruins pics with the steel upright stumps cut at 45 degrees, so absolutely characteristic of controlled demolition practice : -
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/wtc_charges.html The compiler of that page is Michael Rivero.
Perhaps then they might resume their infantile prattle about spaceships, as if readers didn't register anything. Btw, i notice that they are under Anonymous nearly always, or simliar. They have something to hide, like the things which scurry away when a rock is turned over ?
And as for the ABC and the others, war crimes trials for them; for they are as complicit in 911 as are all those who needed a new Pearl Harbour to kick off wars without end, and set about actually doing it in the full knowledge that even the ABC in Australia, like the BBC, would keep us all benighted.
The point here is that without knowing in advance that media - including the ABC - would cover up the crimes of 911, the perps would not have dared even think of it, let alone do it.
American friends of mine have confirmed the collapse of the building. A poll conducted earlier this year now has 70% of Americans believing the American Government is with-holding information from the public about Sept. 11
I'm surprised you lot haven't blamed Kevin Byrne and the Unity party for the collapse of the World Trade Centre.
Here are the facts.
"After the north tower collapsed, some firefighters entered 7 World Trade Center to search the building. They attempted to extinguish small pockets of fire, but low water pressure hindered their efforts. A massive fire burned into the afternoon on the 11th and 12th floors of 7 World Trade Center, the flames visible on the east side of the building. During the afternoon, fire was also seen on floors 6–10, 13–14, 19–22, and 29–30. At approximately 2:00 p.m., firefighters noticed a bulge in the southwest corner of 7 World Trade Center between the 10th and 13th floors which was a sign that the building was unstable and might collapse. During the afternoon, firefighters also heard creaking sounds coming from the building. Around 3:30 pm, given that 7 World Trade Center was unstable and would possibly collapse, FDNY Chief Daniel Nigro decided to halt rescue operations, surface removal and searches along the surface of the debris near 7 World Trade Center and evacuate the area due to concerns for the safety of personnel. At 5:20 p.m. EDT on September 11, 2001, 7 World Trade Center collapsed. The building had been evacuated and there were no casualties associated with the collapse."
And that's a fact.
In May 2002, the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) issued a report on the collapse based on a preliminary investigation conducted jointly with the Structural Engineering Institute of the American Society of Civil Engineers under leadership of Dr. W. Gene Corley, P.E. FEMA made preliminary findings that the collapse was not primarily caused by actual impact damage from the collapse of 1 WTC and 2 WTC but by fires on multiple stories ignited by debris from the other two towers that continued unabated due to lack of water for sprinklers or manual firefighting. Structural elements were exposed to high temperatures for a sufficient period of time to reduce their strength to the point of collapse.
And what about the so called plane hit on the Pentagon? Those circular holes looked damned suspicious, also the fact that there was no plane wreckage. I am still very suspicious about September 11.
The obfuscatory tactics by some of the people (agents?) who've posted comments above remind me a lot of some of the emails I received after I published an article on the Port Arthur massacre in Nexus mag last year. Could they be the same people who wrote to me, I wonder?
Carl Wernerhoff
http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/MartinBryant1.html
Michael Randallbard said...
Aussies....wow some of you are REALLY not up to speed on this subject.
I saw a video filmed only half an hour before tower 7 was demolished by explosives where Guiliani and also firefighters were yelling for people to back way because "it's going to collpase". Of course Silverstein and Guiliani knew the plan way before. Silverstein mispoke when he used the term "pull the building" which is only a demolition term. But the question I almost never see asked is how did they get the building wired in 4 hours? It's impossible to do this even in a weeks time.
So when the firemen said the bldg was going to collapse and urged everyone to evacuate, how on earth could anyone know this was going to happen until it happened making it the first skyscraper in history to fall in 8 seconds due to a couple small fires, which happened to be set by the way, in the CIA offices intentionally to insure that this operation was never uncovered.
Frankly I am shocked to see how out of it our friends down under are. The only conspiracy on 9/11 was the shabby unprofessional attempt to blame outsiders for an obvious inside job.
Recall that Goring phoned Geobbles and Hitler to inform them that the Reichstag was on fire. Hitler and Goebbles were having dinner at the time they got the call. One of the first things Goring said was the communists did it, this while the bldg was still buring and no forensic studies had been done. Of course everyone now knows that the Germans did it to rally the people behind their agendas.
The world trade towers demolition was the modern day Reichstag. History always repeats. Create an enemy to blame in order to get public support. Shock the public with the unthinkable and they will show fear which is the strongest of all emotions. People will give up their freedom, yes even their minds when fear takes over.
S.L.I. Asia said...
First they ridicule you, then they fight you, and then you win.
Those are the three stages of the truth before it is accepted as self-evident. -Ghandi
I started to see that there was something wrong when East Timor was in the news.
The media kept talking about "the militias" who were killing people and trying to stop the election.
I thought "what militias? Why would the East Timorese not want an election?"
I started searching the internet for answers. It turns out that when Indonesia invaded East Timor they killed one third of the entire population making it relatively the biggest genocide in modern history. We didn't hear about THAT either!
Anyway, the took all the best land in brought in thousands of their own people to settle there.
THEY were "the militias"
Ahh.. now it makes sense. No wonder they didn't want the Indonesian military to go. No wonder they ran away over the border after the election.
But the Australian media never explained that. Why not? Why such a glaring omission?
Having found internet news sources I have come to the horrifying realisation that almost everything I have ever been told about politics and history was either a lie, a beat-up or only part of the truth.
Did Bush admin lie about Weapons of Mass Deception?
So what else have they lied about?
For the neocon lovers here that pretend to believe the "Bush Admin" official version of 9/11 you are by far in the minority.
Shrink Rat said...
"ignorance thru education said...
Posting this nonsense makes the owner of this blog, Michael Moore, look extremely foolish and ignorant...."
You can always identify govt. shills because they indulge in ad hominem derision and avoid discussing data. Whatever they're paying you, 'ignorance', it clearly is way too much.
Mon Dec 31, 12:00:00 am
I am waiting for the nuke explosion going off. Remember the missing nuke missles? No one would know who did it! The evidence evaporates, it is geting easier for the final NWO conspiracy see? You've been set up, "sheeple"! All the laws are in place. Try to change America now, it's too late for us.
My impression is that the purpose of this story about the absence of coverage of WTC-7 by ABC news is a call to the Australian public to look into their alleged public broadcasting system. How is it that a public entity can fail to inform the public on such a topic as the possible connivance in 9/11 by people other than the 19 alleged hijackers? The absence of comment on this building by the 9/11 Commission in the United States is another interesting fact. As we know, icebergs in the shipping lane are mostly invisible. Well, our society is full of these mostly-buried threats to our safety.
To believe that those in power are there for our benefit in this "best of possible worlds" is to say that all those years of pedophilia covered up in the Catholic Church was all for the best. It is to say that government graft and corruption, when finally exposed, was really good for us all along (considering that earlier alternative action would have exposed it and not allowed the enrichment of such people with the off-shore accounts and bottomless black budgets in places like Pentagon).
We know that in the states, security for our airports has been transferred to people who may have other agendas (drug trafficking? smuggling of other things like weapons?), because they insure the safety of passengers. Have you ever heard of protection rackets? And what about the private army growing and expanding through the US, Blackwater, which is now offering "safety" from illegal Mexicans, while it can now pull off some Trojan Horse.
I fall back on the Gospels (though I am not particularly religious). Bad trees bear bad fruit. They have to be cut down. That would include the "tree" of a public broadcasting system which hides vital information from the public and forces it through fields of icebergs without warning them of danger until it can report on the disaster.
Commander Z said...
JEWS DID 911 AND ALL WORLD WARS. They are now planning for WWIII and Depression II. Yes and Ron Paul is a Jew Stooge to stampede the Goy into a gold Standard. Who controls the world's gold?? You guess it: JEWS
www.Jew-Crime.com
www.PatriotMilitia.com
Name the jackals of war and profits and porn and dope and censorship: JEWS
This will no doubt be censored by a Jew controlled moderator.
kosherbacon,
lyndon larouche is expecting you to man the tables at the post office tomorrow.
I'm a Republican Vice precinct committee person here in Owen County Indiana and we're pushing Ron Paul for pres. And YES Israel and our own CIA did 911 and are lying U.S. into wars. I highly recomend the following sites for verification of this: http://www.realnews247.com http://nogw.com/ilrunshow.html and www.whatreallyhappened.com get these spread around BEFORE the next war. Russia has warned they'll attack whomever attacks Iran. BEFORE more of our kids die for THEIR CAUSES! I have friends who are 'jewish' but NOT zionists nor users of their satanic doctrine called the TALMUD. This is KEY! Google the 'satanic talmud' and learn who our enemies really are. Nothing will change until these PARASITES are exposed.
American here who believes our govt had something to do with 9/11. Too many facts to list here, but a couple sticks out. Condy Rice made a statement after 9/11 where she says that no one could have imagined that someone would fly a jet into a building. Yet, some month before 9/11, FEMA did a study about terrorist attacks and on the front cover of the study, they had crosshairs over the twin towers, talking of a plane hitting a building!!??? Also, the plane that hit the pentagon...we saw footage from a security cam, you cannot make out from the footage exactly what hit the building. Yet, there were dozen of other security cams filing that day. The FBI confiscated the footage and we have never seen those films, why????
The thing that amazes me is that there are still people out there who don't KNOW 9/11 was an operation run by the Neocons (ie jewish zionist crazies) and Dick Cheney using Israeli intelligence personnel to justify the destruction of Israel's greatest enemy in the middle east (Iraq) and the personal wealth of Cheney and his friends (haliburton and lockheed-martin - who both Dick and his wife are involved with).
Let's not be distracted by the shilling and those who want to blame the jews for this - SURE - most of the perpetrators in this were jewish but that would be like blaming italians for something the mafia did.
To paraphrase an oft spoken line of BS used in regards to muslims -
the neocons might be jewish, but not all jews are neocons.
Whatever happened, happened. There
is nothing anyone can do about it.
'THEY' always win, 'WE' always lose. This is a fact of life. Its
been going on forever and 'THEY'
love all these comments. "Keep them
pounding the keyboards and that is
as far as any of it will ever get". Remember, 'THEY' never lose.
Money is Power.
All mafia are Italians, but not all Italians are mafia...
We should keep this in mind when we have a disagreement with Israel and her supporters worldwide. Most Jews have no more control over Israel and her worldwide support network than we do. Most Israeli Jews have no more control over Israel than I have over George W. Bush.
You are right. The collapse of building WTC7 really gives the whole rotten game away
The media and other government lackies have responded by ignoring it or calling anyone who points it out as deranged.
The internet is our only hope.
www.LaserGuidedLoogie.com
To clear up anu doubts, search for,
Richard Gage, and his presentation,,
Barry Jennings, and his eye witness account of WTC7's lobby and up to the sixth floor stairway he was in blowing up.
It is not "the jews" that did the 911 false flag attacks, but Zionists. Religious or fake religious that have world domination in mind.
The only way to remedy this, is through a deliberate effort to ensure ALL peoples liberty, in every nation on Earth. This includes any and all Vice, decriminalized, which only becomes a crime when organized criminals get into political power and make laws against vice, which they then profit from.
Not just the enimies we have been told, exist. The world really needs to wake up that there are dark souls in our midst.. Sworn enimies of Truth, Justice, etc.. everywhere. They pose as Doctors, Teachers, Lawers, friends in all walks.. Even a couple posters here. They are not like most people and are irredemeable. We have to understand this, if we are to see a solution.
Gene Stewart said...
Anonymously mocking people as conspiracy theorists for asking questions does not address either the questions or the disturbing answers that arise from them. It displays only a closed mind and is useless.
This is a good article raising interesting questions the mainstream media have been trained to ignore or mock; that answers some of the questions right there.
How did three buildings fall down when no other high rises in history have ever collapsed in such a way, let alone from insufficient causes or, in the case of Building Seven, no cause at all.
The sad attempts to mock and belittle these and other very real questions demonstrates how desperate the cover-up must be, to have cleared the crime scene so quickly of physical evidence and to have instituted such a hegemony of lies.
Like the Reichstag fire, Pearl Harbor, the USS Liberty, and so many other false flag operations, the general shape of the crime we call 9/11 will eventually be widely known, even if the specifics may never be agreed upon.
If steel(WTC buildings frames) melts from a kerosene flame (jet fuel), then WHY do welders need oxygen tanks to get the gas mixture hot enough to melt/cut through steel? Because there is not enough free oxygen in the air we BREATH. Seems to me that welders could save a lot of money by leaving the oxygen out of it if theres enough available in the atmosphere here on Earth to do it for free. WAKE UP DUMMIES.
WTC 7 WAS PULLED BECAUSE THE PLANE THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO HIT IT CRASHED , LANDED, OR WAS SHOT DOWN ELSEWHERE AND THEY FIGURED NO ONE WOULD NOTICE...? WELL, SOME OF US DID!
Visible said...
Boy... you sure caught a lot of trolls. The good news is that not everybody is stupid.
thank you for this-
"hoffa_ said...
Sun Dec 30, 02:33:00 PM"
heh heh... well said.
It looks like you're picking up some Zionist traffic too; once again masquerading as Anti-Semites; shades of the white supremacy hit on Ron Paul.
These are facts; 9/11 was an inside job. Bin Laden has been dead for years. There is no al qaeda it is an elite construct. There is no real Muslim terrorist problem. It is a simple police matter. "They' are out to get you.
Possibly the most amazing year in modern history is coming up. What out.
Chi0ne1 said...
SHEEPLE it is time to WAKE UP. SHEEPLE it is time to WAKE UP.
911, war on this and that, illegal aliens, abortion, feminism, etc are only rabbit trails to keep the SHEEPLE from looking at the real culprits, the elite.
There are 2 types of people. The elite(global bankers, semite and non-semite) and the sheeple(the cannon fodder of the "different" countries). As long as the sheeple continue to see only one or two trees in the forest of the elite and stay divided the elite will continue to win. The elite has only one General while the sheeple have many(some of which are also from the elite). Who do you think is winning?
The SHEEPLE need to wake up NOW. We need to forget about "curing" the symptoms and try to figure out how to cure the disease.
If Dr. Paul were a stooge for the Jews he would be mainstream media instead of being feared by the media (and Jews - since the JDL is calling for his supporters to be killed).
You want Govt. conspiracy proof?
Bush is President (or is it King?)
Ok, I found this via the Rense.Com news site, probably the only source of real news available on a global basis.
I have also been to HitEnter.co.uk and seen what is there, watch it all and the jigsaw becomes complete.
Yes I am anonymous, but only because I genuinely fear for what may happen to those who can be identified by the NWO.
Atta himself was asked at his trial why they attacked the WTC's. His response was omitted from the report. He allegedly cited Israel.
The investigating committee has still not produced an official report on the collapse of WTC7, citing unexplained anomalies as the reason.
Someone stated that WTC7 was destroyed by fire? Well just go watch the videos. The spine of the building was destroyed in a controlled demolition.
Steel framed buildings cannot collapse due to fire. When was the last time your house collapsed because you boiled some carrots on the stove? Steel does not melt or weaken at those temperatures, and the fires in the twin towers and WTC7 were of the low temperature variety, not pressurised gas as found in your stove. Does a steel BBQ melt? No. Remember we are talking about tons of very thick steel here.
The main WTC's both collapsed in under 10 seconds. That is free fall speed, the same speed as it would take for a golf ball to hit the ground. Say bang 100 times as fast as you can, if you take more than 10 seconds then you have joined the conspiracy theorists too, by default.
Yes, my dear Aussies, the US, UK and AUS governments are all answerable to the people whom they serve, and those people are above them not below them. You get to vote for someone who does what the NWO tells them to do, not what you tell them to do.
If it wasn't for the internet the NWO would have been able to continue towards its objectives in the shadows. The internet was created as a control tool by the NWO, but ironically has become its Nemesis.
Hey Kosherbacon,
For thousands of years gold and silver have been the only legitimate currencies. It's the dirty central-banking-fiat-money system that certain trans-generationsl criminals are using to enslave mankind.
WTC is a string-theory mechanics event. See wot i mean mr moore!!??
Now where's the Koo-De-Tah article?
mc said...
9/11 was an inside job- the amount of information available online gives ample evidence that the official conspiracy theory is a hoax. The msm has supported the official conspiracy theory from the first. If it were not for a few authors and the alternative news media, we would be left to the manipulations of msm. It is clear that all 3 wtc bldgs were brought down by controlled demolitions and that the pentagon was not hit by a 757. If you are uninformed, just go to 911truth.org or any of the many 9/11 truth sites or read a book by Webster Tarpley or Jim Marrs or David R. Griffin or another revealer of the truth.
Why do some still believe the govt.?? I don't know. Probably they are afraid to look at this without the veil of illusion. Then they must peel more layers off the onion and begin to understand what the American empire is all about. 9/11 created the opportunity to invade 2 nations, prop up the mil-ind. boondoggle, strip out the provisions of the constitution, and increase control of the citizens by the corpgov - Many are awake, many are beginning to awaken, and many will never come out of their sleep walk. But for anyone not afraid to see beyond the illusion, just do the research and follow-
See when they "pulled" the twin towers.
Some smuck accidentally pulled building 7 as well!?
Prewired, Preplanned.
But because we are all mainstream media junkies, we accepted their explanation and went back to our illusion we are told to call "reality".
Amazing. Why bother providing us with an explanation at all? We have some very good little self governing sheep (paid or unpaid shills). With the logic of such shills any logical explanation can be called a "conspiracy" theory and building 7 was dismantled at high speed by a 1000 wrench bearing monkeys hired by Al-qaeda?
Lies look so much more like truth coming out of the mouth of a pretty newscaster.
Here in Australia, I've never come across so many compliant and obedient citizens.
Who without question.
Believe anything coming from the blow hole of Corporate Endorsed Mandated Sources of Authenticated Information.
Thats right, you don't have to think.
Just think what we tell you to think.
Stay on your knees sheep.
I'm standing.
Thanks for the info Sid.
Are we 100% sure that is WTC7 in the background? If so then WOW!!!!
Regardless of anything, they are the only buildings in HISTORY that, Coincidently ALL THREE, on the same DAY:
*Looked liked a controlled demolition.
*Fell like a controlled demolition.
*Have all the characteristics of a controlled demolition.
*Building 7..just fell..due to ..fires..or monkeys..mean ones too.
Gee I should've bought a lottery ticket on 9/11.
Oh and too bad about the first shill comment. Nothing wrong with being a shill. But please at least be getting paid for it!
Another thing they haven't commented on ever is the death of Osama Bin Laden. There was lot's of media coverage in asian press including India. Even French press mentioned it in passing. That was a longtime ago now but eeven more relevent since Bhutto was murdered as when he did an interview with David Frost she mentioned that the same GUY BEING HELD FOR THE BEHEADING OF DANIEL PERLE WAS ALSO GUILTY OF THE MURDER OF OSAMA BIN LADEN. If you can still find the video it is about six minutes in. It also says Bin Laden's son is now inolved.?
Mon Dec 31, 01:00:00 pm
AlreadyPublished said...
Good stuff Sid!
Did you know that the ABC are obliged to respond to all complaints, but will not?
e.g., 15 months ago, sent thrice:
bass.marco@abc.net.au
mediawatch@your.abc.net.au
glenn.jenny@abc.net.au
tvnews.abcvic@abc.net.au
Dear Madams and Sirs,
On the 5th anniversary of the "catastrophic and catalyzing" events
of September 11, Hugo Chavez --- President of the 4th largest
supplier of hydrocarbons to the United States --- declared:
The hypothesis that is gaining strength, which was said on television last night, and which could soon blow up, was that it was the same
U.S. IMPERIAL POWER that PLANNED AND CARRIED OUT THIS TERRIBLE
TERRORIST ATTACK, or act, against its own people and against citizens
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=chavez%2C+911%2C+video
According to a poll conducted recently by Scripps-Howard and Ohio
State University, 34% of Americans strongly suspect that 911 was an
inside job, while over 50% suspect U.S. goverment complicity (by
intentional neglect).
http://www.scrippsnews.com/911poll
According to a poll conducted in 2004 by Zogby International,
HALF of New Yorkers suspected U.S. government complicity.
http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=855
On September 11, 2001, five jubilant ISREALI men were arrested in an
explosives-tainted moving van.
The five "SUSPECTED CONSPIRATORS" were reportedly in possession of
"maps" and "other evidence linking them to the bombing plot."
http://s3.amazonaws.com/911timeline/2001/bergenrecord091201.html
On September 11, 2001, a river of brightly glowing molten metal
(minimum temp. of 1400C) -- identical in appearence to the molten iron produced in a thermite reaction -- poured from the 81st floor of the South Tower for at least 7 minutes immediately preceding collapse.
See for yourself:
On the eve of the 5th anniversary, BBC1 matter-of-factly reported:
"a recent poll showed that almost half the U.S. population -- that's a
high figure -- HALF -- believe there's been a Washington coverup."
This statement of fact was followed by a relatively "fair and
balanced" 10 minute interview with Dr. David Ray Griffin, author of
"The New Pearl Harbor - disturbing questions about the Bush
administration and 911"
A report in the Guardian of September 5, 2001 asked:
Who really blew up the twin towers?
As the fifth anniversary of 9/11 nears, Christina Asquith finds
academics querying the official version of events
Tuesday September 5, 2006
Shards of glass and dust from the World Trade Centre towers sit on
Professor Steven Jones's desk at Brigham Young University in Utah.
Evidence, he says, of the biggest cover-up in history - one too evil
for most to believe, but one he has staked his academic career on
exposing.
The attacks of September 11, Jones asserts, were an "inside job",
puppeteered by the neoconservatives in the White House to justify the
OCCUPATION OF OIL-rich Arab countries, inflate military spending and
EXPAND ISREAL.
"We don't believe that 19 hijackers and a few others in a cave in
Afghanistan pulled this off acting alone," says Jones. "WE CHALLENGE
THIS OFFICIAL CONSPIRACY THEORY and, by God,
WE'RE GOING TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS."
http://education.guardian.co.uk/higher/worldwide/story/0,,1864657,00.html
1) Why does the abc censor all evidence undermining the official
conspiracy theory?
2) Who is "the decider" at the abc?
i am skeptical of the whole official 9/11 story. but when i think about if the buildings really were demolished by explosives, then that means it had to be rigged and set up for weeks, or months, whatever.
ok stay with me here...
so wouldnt that mean that hundreds of demolition experts would have to be sweeping the two towers and placing explosives in key areas.
when would they have time to do this? how could they do this undetected in "the city that never sleeps"?
and the biggest thing...
i have thought about it and thought about it for years now, and i just dont think bush and company is smart enough to pull something like this off. by implying the attacks were planned, that means that literally thousands of people had to be involved. not one so far has felt the weight of guilt on their conscience, enough to talk?
i dont argue that there is some type of coverup. but to say it was planned like this, more evidence is needed; right now, its all speculative. and i am skeptical of both sides.
Also the fact that on 09/10/01 Donald Rumsfailed said that the Pentagon has misplaced 2.3 TRILLION dollars and the next day 9/11 so nobody dare ask about the missing money. And that the towers fell 10 stories a second. And some high up who worked in WTC 7 said sometime after 9:00am that there were bodies in the lobby of WTC 7. The stand down order given by the Dick and the town hall meeting 2 months after 9/11 where Bush said he saw the first plane hit on a TV at the school. He said "Before he went into the classroom that the TV was obviously on and he saw the first plane hit and thought to himself that must be one terrible pilot. Now what station had their cameras on the WTC before the planes hit? And better yet what poor school has cable? But before entering the school the reporters asked him if he knew what was happening in New York? He said he will talk about it later and proceeded to go into the school. Go to whatreallyhappened.com to find this gem of a lie in Bush's movements on the day of 9/11. And we all know where he was when the second plane hit so again where did he see the first plane?
http://911guide.googlepages.com/danielnigro
Aussiegirl said...
Here is a 3 min vid of Bernazir Bhutto being interviewed by David Frost, where she talks of Osama Bin Ladens MURDER! Why didnt David Frost pass a comment? Any Reporter worth his merit should have jumped on it..
http://youtube.com/watch?v=UnychOXj9Tg
Chuck Guiteau said...
If you are looking for the truth, you might want to start by not misrepresenting the facts.
"Pull" is not a demolitions term, it is a firefighters term, and means "pull all personnel back to safe distance (abandon efforts).
WTC7 did not collapse unexpectedly. The firefighters, after performing a transit survey, realized that parts of the building were out of plumb, sagging and in danger of collapse. This was hours before the event took place.
WTC7 was in full conflagration on a number of floors, while others were seriously damaged from the fall of WTC1, including a 10-story hole in the outer wall. To say that it suffered no damage and the fire was localized is deliberately untruthful.
WTC7 did not fall neatly into its own footprint. It damaged buildings 70 yards away.
No explosive detritus was found in the aftermath, in any of the building's rubble, including WTC7. All were investigated, by the FBI crime lab, the NY State crime lab, NYPD and FDNY, both of which had police, investigators and other specialists on scene for weeks. Not one UX cap, not one shock tube, not one copper backplate were found.
No nitrate signature was identified. This is absolute proof that no explosives were used, since it cannot be explained away with the usual "they were in on it" dodge. Modern detection equipment works in the 1-2 picogram range and is available to anyone, including all the above-mentioned agencies, plus insurance investigators and private laboratories.
Please don't take my word for any of this, use your zeal for the truth and verify it all independently.
Some helpful resources for confused conspiracists:
WTC 7 and the Lies of the 9/11 Truth Movement: http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/introduction
WTC 7 Engineering investigation papers and collapse hypotheses: http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/wtc7engineeringpapers%2Ccollapsehypotheses
Deceptive claims made about WTC 7 by conspiracists, collapse expected by all, expert witnesses (video): http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2873871255585611926#19m35s
After 67 posts, at last a negative comment that is courteous and seemingly contains substantive criticisms.
If you are looking for the truth, you might want to start by not misrepresenting the facts....
Unfortunately, Chuck, you haven't provided a single reference to back up the various claims you make.
Could you help our your readers with relevant links that support your assertions, so we can better assess their worth?
Bradhoo wrote:
i just dont think bush and company is smart enough to pull something like this off.
Let's hope they aren't :-)
WTC 7 was not mentioned by the 911 Commission.
NIST (National Institute of Standards & Techonology) was charged with producing a full explanation of all 3 buildings collapse. A 10,000 page report was written on WTC 1 & 2 and only 1 paragrah was written on actual collapse. That is around 0.005% of the whole research effort. NISTs excuse was that they only researched up until "collapse initiation". This was not the full account they were charged with creating. The report on WTC has still not been completed by NIST.
NIST then contracted a company called ARA to reseach WTC7, they passed it on like a hot potato.
NISTs request to ARA was this (paraphrasing), "determine the collapse mechanisms by looking between floors 8-46 only. Hold on, this is a 47 story building. Any demolition company you speak to will tell you the lower floors and sub floors is what they work on to get the collapse to start. So they are telling ARA not to look at the most important data.
This is just a small sample of the lies and convenient ommissions that NIST/FEMA & the 911 Commission made on building 7.
And a quick word to all the people out there that think I am a conspiracy theorist.
Open your eyes, stop making broad assumptions of which you know very little about, and wake up before it is too late. I am a member of this group www.stj911.org and we were conspiracy theorist until all this was proven, now it is conspiracy fact.
There are hundreds of other groups looking and proving all sorts of things on 911, get educated please.
Tue Jan 01, 12:05:00 am
You don't give us enough credit here in the states. The "official" 911 Report doesn't mention Bldg. 7 at all. For something that weighs 3lbs. you'd think it could get a mention.
Hey congrats guys you made it onto whatreallyhappened.com
a damn fine website it is too!
also I will post the link onto here.... http://forums.canadiancontent.net/international-politics/70073-9-11-truth-manifesto-8.html?posted=1#post914129
Sibel Edmonds, former translator for the FBI has had a state's secrets order placed upon her.
Google to find out why anything she knows related to 9/11 cannot be told atm.
Richard Porter, Head of News, BBC World at the website you linked:
"We no longer have the original tapes of our 9/11 coverage (for reasons of cock-up, not conspiracy). So if someone has got a recording of our output, I'd love to get hold of it."
So the BBC LOST its footage of 9/11?? The most important defining event of recent history and you LOST the footage?? And you expect us to believe that? And why don't you look for the "recording of your output" on YouTube like everybody else?
"Conspiracy" doesn't even begin to cover what this global criminal gang is up to.
BTW Silverstein said "pull IT". IT does not mean "firefighters". IT means the building. That's why IT is in the singular.
How about having an Honest New Year, America? Your evil government did it to justify War for Israel and to make money.
greetings from hapax
Brahdoo,
At least you are open to a few matters. There is a video; either mysteries of 911 (Google it 1.5 hours) of Loose Change (2nd Ed. Final cut being released now) In one of those vieos there is an interview with a banker(?) who had five floors of computers in one of the WTCs. He said that there was notice of a 'power down' and that went ahead in the week or so before 9/11. He said that people were trundling cables through the building for "an internet upgrade". There were no security cameras etc. I think it was the janitor, Rodrigeus who said a floor was locked off and workers noticed dust from some sort of work each day. Also, the "sniffer" dogs were taken out the week before 9/11. So there are some hints to suggest that 100s of workers would not have been needed to place the charges. Then when you have examned all that, google "five Danccing Israelis". See their interview on Israeli TV, they were there to "document the event". Pity that all the photos etc that they took were not released by the police who arrested them. Must go, and let you get on with your research, In two weeks you might be able to determine beyond reasonable doubt that that the buildings were "blown up". For technical matters go to journal of 9/11 scholars. As for JB being "too" dumb, that is not relevant, he just does as he is told, probably by Uncle Dick..look up Norman Mineta's testimony to the Congresional committe. Sorry, but I could go on for hours, just put your head down and make up your own mind, then realise that the continuing aiders and abettors in the treasonous murder are the MSM.
See also 911blogger.com for 5 minutes each day to keep up with developments.
Mallee.
PS previous attempt at a post was a bit hot eh?
This Blog had so much potential for discussing relevant issues about the present and future of Cairns. With all this totally unsupported rehashed conspiracy crap obviously this is the wrong place to find intelligent discussion. Is this your Blog Mr Moore or Sid whatshisname's? Perhaps he could start his own and take his followers with him?
You are obviously a talented writer so why allow this Blog to be comandeered by stuff that would have been found in an old 'Melbourne Truth' newspaper?
Well Monty, I guess like any forum, there are things that you interested in and things you aren'nt.
Not everything on teh ABC nor Channel 10 interests you I dare say.. so what do you do? Switch the channel, or switch it off.
EgdeHill Ernie
G'day everyone
It's sad to read many errors and misconceptions in the comments here, so I thought I'd offer a few suggestions for people to check up.
Cheers, and Happy New Year.
1. Juanita Neilson said: "I stayed up all night 9/11 watching live, there was a report with footage showing flight 93 landing & passengers disembarking. This plane never crashed as later reported."
That was a case of misreporting in the confusion of the day. See http://www.911myths.com/html/93_landed_in_cleveland.html
2. "Also it was obvious no plane hit pentagon."
The evidence a plane hit the Pentagon is very clear. Remnants of the plane and of its passengers were removed from the site. See http://www.911myths.com/html/pentagon.html
3. Anonymous (30.12 2.56pm) said: "I am confident that myself along with many other BBQ coinsures in our great nation would be more then grateful to know if physics has changed, if steels melting point has dropped…"
Steel didn't need to melt for the buildings to collapse. See http://www.debunking911.com/fires.htm
4. "…if high concentrations of sulfur is not a residue that relates directly thermate."
Thermate isn't the only potential source of sulphur. See http://www.911myths.com/html/traces_of_thermate_at_the_wtc.html
5. PoliticalSpazz said: "Collapsing WTC7 was a case of destroying the evidence, so the Zionist owners would…collect on the massive insurance fraud."
Silverstein is well out of pocket despite the insurance payout. See http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/larrysilverstein%3Ainsuranceprofitmotive%3F
6. Richard Carpenter said: "Did you hear the one about nineteen Arabs with box cutters and a guy with a towel on his head? Some kooks think these people did 9/11 by themselves."
What exactly is the problem with nineteen people using edged weapons to take control of four planes?
7. Anonymous (30.12 3.30pm) said: "Nobody has explained the record volume of put options placed on American and United just before 9/11…"
Have you read this article and its links? See http://www.911myths.com/html/put_options.html
8. Michael Mazur said: "…have a look at the still smoking WTC ruins pics with the steel upright stumps cut at 45 degrees, so absolutely characteristic of controlled demolition practice…"
Also characteristic of being cut during the clean up.
9. Michael Randallbard said: "I saw a video filmed only half an hour before tower 7 was demolished by explosives where Guiliani and also firefighters were yelling for people to back way because "it's going to collpase". Of course Silverstein and Guiliani knew the plan way before."
Also explained by the amount of damage the building sustained in the collapses of WTCs 1 and 2.
10. Gene Stewart said: "How did three buildings fall down when no other high rises in history have ever collapsed in such a way..."
Not many other buildings have been struck by large jets loaded with fuel and travelling at high speed.
11. Anonymous (31.12 5.47am) said: "The main WTC's both collapsed in under 10 seconds. That is free fall speed, the same speed as it would take for a golf ball to hit the ground."
Video evidence suggests it took quite a bit longer than that. See http://www.911myths.com/html/freefall__video_evidence.html
And no, I'm no Bush supporter. I wonder whether he could find sand at the beach, or remember what he had for breakfast without the cook reminding him.
And that's why I think 9/11 wasn't an inside job.
Many sheeple are betting on Ron Paul. I on the other hand am very cautious and concerned. What better way to get someone behind their man than to let the people think that they are against him. They have been doing this for centuries. They infiltrated the peace movement of the 60/70's, they have pretty much infiltrated everything else. Sheeple have to realize that Ron Paul has been inside the Beltway for 10 terms. If I am wrong then I am wrong, if Ron Paul supporters are wrong then they are in for a rude awakening. There are only the globalists and the sheeple. As long as the sheeple stay divided the globalists will win. There are way too many generals among the sheeple and some of them are from the elite.
Wed Jan 02, 07:58:00 am
I can't let the last comment be a 9/11 "official story " shill.
Two points only, no need to go over every think again point by point, though I and many others could.
Point 1.(quote)5. PoliticalSpazz said: "Collapsing WTC7 was a case of destroying the evidence, so the Zionist owners would…collect on the massive insurance fraud."
Silverstein is well out of pocket despite the insurance payout. See http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/larrysilverstein%3Ainsuranceprofitmotive%3F(end quote)
Larry Silverstein may have had substantial out of pocket expense with redeveloping that property, if he had gone about it in the ordinary way. But since 9/11 was a "terrorist attack" federal, state and local money payed for the removal of debris and supplied the workforce to do it. With no medical liability for those workers who have been dieing from exposure ever since.
point2.(quote)10. Gene Stewart said: "How did three buildings fall down when no other high rises in history have ever collapsed in such a way..."
Not many other buildings have been struck by large jets loaded with fuel and traveling at high speed(end quote)
Building # 7 wasn't hit by a plane at any speed.
People do your own research. But if you are starting off with the assumption that government is our friend, you may not want to bother.
We've come to a fork in the road. We should take it. (thanks Yogi).
"If you are looking for the truth, you might want to start by not misrepresenting the facts."
As you do?
""Pull" is not a demolitions term, it is a firefighters term, and means "pull all personnel back to safe distance (abandon efforts)."
Actually, about misrepresenting, you should inform yourself first. Listen to the Silverstein interview, he says "I think we'll have to pull IT".
Now if he were actually talking about personel and firemen, he would've said pull THEM out. He doesn't say, "we'll have to pull", he said "we'll have to pull IT"
And "pull" IS a control demolition lingo.
"WTC7 did not collapse unexpectedly. The firefighters, after performing a transit survey, realized that parts of the building were out of plumb, sagging and in danger of collapse. This was hours before the event took place."
Wrong. This would have caused a dissymmetric collapse. Also, only parts of the building were affected. But it fell at almost freefall speed. 6.7 seconds to be precise. Now check up a well-known law of physics called the path of least resistance (also look up where the actual fires were and you will see that this building, if caused by the fires, should have fallen on its side and not on its footprint).
Considering all three towers collapse. The law of resistance is not applied. The 'experts' call it a progressive collapse. The use of the word progressive is used because the underlying structure offers resistance which would cause a much lenghtier collapse time frame. They have offered up the answer that "the kenetic energy from the upper part was enough to completely eliminate any resistance from the structure" which is totally laughable. A pityful rounded-up answer to obfuscate the issue.
I suggest you watch Richard Gage's presentation on all three tower's collapse.
"WTC7 was in full conflagration on a number of floors, while others were seriously damaged from the fall of WTC1, including a 10-story hole in the outer wall. To say that it suffered no damage and the fire was localized is deliberately untruthful."
Yes, and many other buildings were even more affected by the twin collapses and yet they haven't fallen. Might it be because none of these other buildings were 1- owned by Silverstein thru his lease for the WTC complex to the NY port authority 2- didnt have CIA offices 3- didnt have SEC offices with important records partaining to the Enron scandal.
Fires don't make collumns go away. Only a minimal number of collumns (main) were damaged as per the FEMA reports.
"WTC7 did not fall neatly into its own footprint. It damaged buildings 70 yards away."
Any control demolition with a 47-story (this is not a small building) will cause debris to go in a range of up to a 100 yards.
By this admission, I can clearly see you haven't watched the many videos of the collapse of WTC 7. It is clearly falling neatly into place. There isn't even the slightest angle to its descent, and yet you say it didn't fell into its footprint...?
Am I to assume that a 47 story building collapsing from whatever means (even the best control demolition) won't make debris go further than the lenght of a football field??? The building itself was 2.5 times the lenght of a football field. (insert sarcasm smiley)
""No explosive detritus was found in the aftermath, in any of the building's rubble, including WTC7. All were investigated, by the FBI crime lab, the NY State crime lab, NYPD and FDNY, both of which had police, investigators and other specialists on scene for weeks. Not one UX cap, not one shock tube, not one copper backplate were found.""
BZZZZZZZZZZZT! Wrong again Mr disinformer. 1- Iron oxide pellets were found. 2- Firemen have witness accounts of explosions in the building (as with WTC 1 and 2). 3- And heat analysis of the WTC complex have shown high tempatured spots (over 1600 F) in the underground a month after 9-11. Pools of molten lava were found in all three undergrounds (eyewitness accounts from firemen + plus heat survey over WTC complex.. .all readily available on the web).
""No nitrate signature was identified. This is absolute proof that no explosives were used, since it cannot be explained away with the usual "they were in on it" dodge. Modern detection equipment works in the 1-2 picogram range and is available to anyone, including all the above-mentioned agencies, plus insurance investigators and private laboratories.""
I hope you know you can make explosives WITHOUT nitrate or its consequent residues?? You're quite quick to put the "absolute proof" tag on that one. Also, I hope you are aware of the effectivness of thermate. Thermate alone could have been used.
"Please don't take my word for any of this, use your zeal for the truth and verify it all independently."
For sure I won't take your word for it. I mean, you actually think an office fire (and damage) could make a 750 tower fall in 6.7 seconds without sending debris at more than 70 yards from the building...
My zeal for the truth compared to yours seems like an elephant compared to a rodent. You being the latter.
Thu Jan 03, 02:28:00 am
Peter, there are many errors and misconceptions in your post. For you to say no plane hit the Pentagon makes me believe you MUST have been onsite on the day, where you? One can finds heaps either way in 9/11 on the net, all is meaningless because of this. I can't stand it when people present what is just their opinion as fact. Qualify people!
THE MISSING DEMOLITON CREW?? I recall reading where, during the digging of Ground Zero, excavators came across a collapsed tunnel under WTC7 which contained the skeletal remains of many people.
My immediate thought was, "Was this the demolition crew/witnesses??" herded up and locked into a tunnel, to die and ever be silent.
Talk to as many Americans as you can....the majority are now very suspicious of the Bush Administration.
9/11 was a string theory mechanics event, if one listens to More Than a Feeling by Boston backwards there are references to 9/11 and wtc in it, and this song was recorded in mid-70s!
Thu Jan 03, 01:18:00 pm
furthermore, the song More Than A Feeling details the feelings of the terrorist who was as the controls of the 2nd plane that hit wtc, the name marianne in the song is code for Mohamed. Listen to lyrics and u will see. "I closed my eyes and I slipped away." The "More than a feeling" line refers to the moment the plane hit the tower and the instant of anticipation of achieving and passing into eternal paradise. Note the exhilaration the terrorist-pilot felt was from the anticpation of his glory, for the actual eventual occurrance of this is, of course, unknown. This instant of exhilaration lasted just the instant for the terroritst-pilot but it was so great he would swap his first love for it.
Ps. "It was a bunch of pissed off Muslims who flew planes into wtc, anyone who thinks otherwise is a retard!"
Who could argue with that. You convinced me.
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its hard at first to believe the truth especially when we have been brainwashed for thousands of years, its time for everyone to wake up and take control of their lives and then the change will happen PEACE
Fri Jan 02, 09:25:00 am
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It is really harsh to believe that we have been brain washed since so many years.It is high time to wake up for the sake of peace!
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