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<!DOCTYPE Meeting SYSTEM "http://www.icsi.berkeley.edu/Speech/mr/Meeting1.dtd">
<Meeting Session="Bmr031" DateTimeStamp="2001-08-09-1450" Version="2" VersionDate="Jan 7 2004">
<Preamble>
<Notes>
me018 arrived slightly late.
Digits were read simultaneously.
me011 re-adjusts gain on me018's channel (ear plug mike)
about 3 minutes into the meeting.
</Notes>
<Channels>
<Channel Name="chan0" Mic="c1" Transmission="w1" Gain="11" AudioFile="chan0.sph"/>
<Channel Name="chan1" Mic="s1" Transmission="w1" Gain="9" AudioFile="chan1.sph"/>
<Channel Name="chan2" Mic="s1" Transmission="w1" Gain="9" AudioFile="chan2.sph"/>
<Channel Name="chan3" Mic="s1" Transmission="w1" Gain="9" AudioFile="chan3.sph"/>
<Channel Name="chan4" Mic="s1" Transmission="w1" Gain="9" AudioFile="chan4.sph"/>
<Channel Name="chan5" Mic="c1" Transmission="w1" Gain="11" AudioFile="chan5.sph"/>
<Channel Name="chan6" Mic="c2" Transmission="u1" Gain="9" AudioFile="chan6.sph"/>
<Channel Name="chan7" Mic="c2" Transmission="u1" Gain="9" AudioFile="chan7.sph"/>
<Channel Name="chan9" Mic="u1" Transmission="j1" Gain="7" AudioFile="chan9.sph"/>
<Channel Name="chanA" Mic="p1" Transmission="j1" Gain="7" AudioFile="chanA.sph"/>
<Channel Name="chanB" Mic="u2" Transmission="j1" Gain="13" AudioFile="chanB.sph"/>
<Channel Name="chanC" Mic="u3" Transmission="j1" Gain="12" AudioFile="chanC.sph"/>
<Channel Name="chanD" Mic="u3" Transmission="j1" Gain="12" AudioFile="chanD.sph"/>
<Channel Name="chanE" Mic="c2" Transmission="u1" Gain="9" AudioFile="chanE.sph"/>
<Channel Name="chanF" Mic="c2" Transmission="u1" Gain="9" AudioFile="chanF.sph"/>
</Channels>
<Participants DB="icsi1.spk">
<Participant Name="fe008" Channel="chan0" Seat="8"/>
<Participant Name="fe016" Channel="chan1" Seat="5"/>
<Participant Name="me013" Channel="chan2" Seat="7"/>
<Participant Name="mn014" Channel="chan3" Seat="2"/>
<Participant Name="me051" Channel="chan4" Seat="6"/>
<Participant Name="me011" Channel="chan5" Seat="9"/>
<Participant Name="mn017" Channel="chan9" Seat="4"/>
<Participant Name="me001" Channel="chanA" Seat="3"/>
<Participant Name="me018" Channel="chanB" Seat="1"/>
</Participants>
</Preamble>
<Transcript StartTime="0.0" EndTime="3233.832">
<Segment StartTime="1.182" EndTime="2.532" Participant="mn017">
There're some words that weren't -
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="1.530" EndTime="2.539" Participant="me011">
O_K. We're on.
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="2.532" EndTime="6.072" Participant="mn017">
See, there're some stretches that weren't even in one or the other, so -
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="4.130" EndTime="6.103" Participant="fe016">
Right. It would have to be hand - Right.
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="6.072" EndTime="6.686" Participant="mn017">
<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="6.138" EndTime="6.589" Participant="me001">
Yeah.
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="6.686" EndTime="9.178" Participant="mn017">
What are you gonna <Emphasis> do </Emphasis> about those, though? You're never -
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="6.718" EndTime="7.610" Participant="fe016">
It would have to be -
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="7.860" EndTime="9.451" Participant="fe008">
Hello? <Pronounce Pronunciation="&quot;kay&quot;"> O_K. </Pronounce>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="8.047" EndTime="10.725" Participant="fe016">
Well, a h- a person would - would check it over and then
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="9.787" EndTime="10.038" Participant="me011">
<NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="11.492" EndTime="12.375" Participant="fe016">
give a final -
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="11.947" EndTime="12.224" Participant="me013">
<VocalSound Description="mouth"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="12.718" EndTime="13.853" Participant="fe008">
Should we close the door?
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="14.040" EndTime="16.534" Participant="me011">
Oh, we'll wait for Chuck. Close the door behind him.
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="14.518" EndTime="18.493" Participant="me001">
I mean, if recognition's better on the channelized segmentations, then -
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="15.061" EndTime="17.296" Participant="me013">
<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> <VocalSound Description="vocal squeak"/> <Comment Description="as if to speak"/> <Comment Description="outbreath"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="15.072" EndTime="15.819" Participant="fe016">
<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> I'm -
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="17.212" EndTime="18.752" Participant="fe016">
Well, it's more
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="18.880" EndTime="20.523" Participant="me013">
We're - we're recording by the way, just for - <Comment Description="abandoned as clear"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="19.231" EndTime="20.030" Participant="fe016">
you <Pronounce Pronunciation="&quot;dnt&quot;, reduced"> didn't </Pronounce> -
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="20.570" EndTime="21.336" Participant="fe016">
Oh, sorry. <Comment Description="while laughing"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="20.888" EndTime="21.724" Participant="me013">
I mean, uh u-
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="21.553" EndTime="23.891" Participant="me011">
Y- you can keep talking, but you should be aware.
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="22.120" EndTime="24.192" Participant="me013">
You can keep talking. I just - I just - <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="22.489" EndTime="23.504" Participant="me051">
<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="22.531" EndTime="23.065" Participant="fe016">
<VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="24.192" EndTime="25.989" Participant="me013">
g- guess you were gonna -
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="24.339" EndTime="27.223" Participant="fe016">
You were saying that we were waiting for Chuck, so I just - O_K.
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="25.989" EndTime="27.249" Participant="me013">
<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> Well -
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="26.420" EndTime="29.400" Participant="me011">
Well, and then, uh - then Morgan said "why don't we start?" and I said "O_<Emphasis> K </Emphasis>".
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="28.682" EndTime="33.405" Participant="fe016">
<NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="29.370" EndTime="38.492" Participant="me013">
So the compromise is we're - we're starting but we're leaving the door open. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> So we'll have a little more background noise and - <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> Uh.
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="32.987" EndTime="33.295" Participant="me011">
<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="33.405" EndTime="33.947" Participant="fe016">
O_K.
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="35.115" EndTime="36.558" Participant="fe016">
<NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="36.336" EndTime="37.352" Participant="me051">
<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="38.113" EndTime="42.110" Participant="me011">
Or we can close the door and make Chuck knock <Comment Description="mike noise on &quot;knock&quot;"/> when he comes. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="40.040" EndTime="40.534" Participant="fe016">
<VocalSound Description="whistle"/> <Comment Description="testing mike"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="40.533" EndTime="41.320" Participant="me001">
<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="40.760" EndTime="41.893" Participant="me013">
<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="41.356" EndTime="42.925" Participant="fe008">
<VocalSound Description="mouth"/> Well, I tend to -
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="42.275" EndTime="43.165" Participant="fe016">
<NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="42.925" EndTime="48.583" Participant="fe008">
th- there're a couple meetings where there are a lot of preambles like this, <Comment Description="rising intonation"/> in which case the transcription doesn't start until someone actually says
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="43.805" EndTime="44.131" CloseMic="false">
<NonVocalSound Description="clinking noise"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="47.585" EndTime="47.921" CloseMic="false">
<NonVocalSound Description="door"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="48.583" EndTime="53.702" Participant="fe008">
"O_K." <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> So, we're <Emphasis> starting </Emphasis> right now. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="49.676" EndTime="50.487" Participant="mn014">
<VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="50.053" EndTime="51.220" Participant="me013">
Really? <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="50.574" EndTime="51.220" Participant="fe016">
Well, that's good.
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="51.220" EndTime="54.326" Participant="me013">
Yeah. Oh, yeah. The meeting's started. This is - this is the real thing. <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="53.702" EndTime="54.613" Participant="fe008">
This is the - <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="53.840" EndTime="54.385" Participant="me001">
<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="54.326" EndTime="60.420" Participant="me013">
This is the real thing. Oh well, never mind, it wasn't. There goes Chuck. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> Just kidding, it <Emphasis> was. </Emphasis> <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> O_K, so. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="55.990" EndTime="59.530" Participant="fe008">
<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="56.582" EndTime="57.264" Participant="fe016">
<VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="56.697" EndTime="57.391" Participant="me011">
<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="58.046" EndTime="59.460" Participant="fe016">
<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="58.492" EndTime="58.888" Participant="mn014">
<VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="58.720" EndTime="59.880" Participant="me051">
<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="58.991" EndTime="60.668" Participant="me011">
And <Emphasis> Chuck </Emphasis> gets stuck with the ear-plug mike.
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="60.420" EndTime="60.897" Participant="me013">
<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="60.668" EndTime="60.982" Participant="me011">
<Uncertain NumSyllables="1"> @@ </Uncertain> <Comment Description="uncodeable vocal fragment"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="60.897" EndTime="64.061" Participant="me013">
O_K. Last guy in <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> gets the - <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="62.011" EndTime="62.650" Participant="fe008">
<Uncertain> Yeah. </Uncertain> <Comment Description="quietly"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="63.379" EndTime="63.796" Participant="fe008">
u-
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="63.482" EndTime="75.479" Participant="me018">
<NonVocalSound Description="mike noise while sets up"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="63.790" EndTime="64.369" Participant="fe016">
<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="63.796" EndTime="65.100" Participant="fe008">
Didn't get the door. <Comment Description="rise-fall-rise intonation, indirect request"/> <VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="64.061" EndTime="65.969" Participant="me013">
<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> Oh, you just get the door <Emphasis> now. </Emphasis> Yeah.
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="65.143" EndTime="67.677" Participant="me011">
But he didn't shut the door. I got it <Pause/> since -
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="65.856" EndTime="66.825" Participant="fe016">
<VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="66.009" EndTime="66.642" Participant="fe008">
<VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="66.949" EndTime="75.472" Participant="me013">
<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> Yeah. So I - I - <Uncertain NumSyllables="1"> @@ </Uncertain> Adam sent around this thing about what we were going to talk about and - and th- we had had this discussion of, uh, flipping back and forth between an emphasis on -
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="73.112" EndTime="74.338" CloseMic="false">
<NonVocalSound Description="door"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="75.472" EndTime="75.895" Participant="me013">
<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="75.895" EndTime="81.534" Participant="me013">
on the technology, particularly recognition, versus, uh, the recordings and transcriptions and so on.
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="77.458" EndTime="82.980" Participant="fe016">
<NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="81.534" EndTime="82.009" Participant="me013">
<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="82.009" EndTime="87.368" Participant="me013">
Um, but, um, I was asking, if we <Emphasis> could, </Emphasis> to <Pause/> uh, kind of make it
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="87.690" EndTime="94.437" Participant="me013">
just whatever is happening rather than one or the other because, uh, next weekend - next week I'll be at a meeting on campus and after that I'll be Europe for,
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="88.328" EndTime="96.638" Participant="fe016">
<NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="89.923" EndTime="90.359" Participant="mn017">
Sure.
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="94.437" EndTime="95.012" Participant="me013">
<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="95.012" EndTime="101.125" Participant="me013">
uh, several meetings' worth. Uh, you folks'll be gone for a couple of the meetings' worth in - in Europe also, right?
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="100.087" EndTime="100.819" Participant="mn017">
Mm-hmm.
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="100.455" EndTime="103.268" Participant="fe016">
I overlap exactly with the times you're gone. I mean -
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="101.200" EndTime="101.920" Participant="mn017">
<VocalSound Description="clears throat"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="102.682" EndTime="104.160" Participant="me013">
Really? O_K. Yeah.
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="103.708" EndTime="104.094" Participant="fe016">
Yeah. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="104.521" EndTime="105.336" Participant="me013">
<VocalSound Description="mouth"/> So.
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="105.336" EndTime="106.737" Participant="me013">
<VocalSound Description="breath"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="106.737" EndTime="110.689" Participant="me013">
So, uh, you didn't - you didn't get an agenda, I guess. We've got the usual -
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="110.240" EndTime="116.897" Participant="me011">
Well, because no one - no one ever rep- responded <Pause/> with any items. So I have <Pause/> a couple of minor ones. Uh,
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="112.367" EndTime="113.360" Participant="me001">
<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="112.769" EndTime="114.060" Participant="me013">
Yeah. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="112.870" EndTime="113.336" Participant="mn014">
<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="117.316" EndTime="121.410" Participant="me011">
our <Pause/> normal transcription status, just so that we can make some -
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="122.650" EndTime="125.965" Participant="me011">
some plans. So wha- what's up with I_B_M, Chuck? Do you know?
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="126.002" EndTime="126.913" Participant="me018">
Um,
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="127.757" EndTime="131.170" Participant="me018">
I think Brian is on vacation now but, uh, before he left we gave him,
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="130.221" EndTime="131.488" Participant="mn017">
<NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="131.535" EndTime="135.198" Participant="me018">
uh, another set of meetings to give to the transcribers. And -
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="132.159" EndTime="134.157" Participant="mn017">
<NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="134.620" EndTime="135.189" Participant="me001">
How many?
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="135.716" EndTime="137.140" Participant="me018">
Uh, what is it? Four?
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="135.935" EndTime="138.613" Participant="me011">
<VocalSound Description="mouth"/> Is - is yours working there, Chuck?
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<Segment StartTime="136.889" EndTime="137.344" Participant="mn014">
Four.
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="137.396" EndTime="137.951" Participant="me001">
Oh.
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="137.807" EndTime="138.234" Participant="me018">
Four.
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="138.000" EndTime="139.250" Participant="mn017">
<VocalSound Description="breath"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="138.613" EndTime="138.954" Participant="me011">
Can <Uncertain> you </Uncertain> - ?
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="139.349" EndTime="140.280" Participant="me011">
You're b- you're B_?
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="139.801" EndTime="140.226" Participant="me018">
Test.
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="140.739" EndTime="141.370" Participant="me018">
What am I?
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="142.327" EndTime="143.280" Participant="fe008">
Is it turned on? <Comment Description="whispered"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="143.950" EndTime="144.836" Participant="me011">
There's no <Emphasis> on. </Emphasis>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="144.663" EndTime="145.275" Participant="me018">
Test.
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<Segment StartTime="145.409" EndTime="146.051" Participant="fe008">
O_K. <Comment Description="whispered"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="145.673" EndTime="146.552" Participant="me018">
<NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="146.552" EndTime="147.730" Participant="me018">
<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> <Comment Description="blows on mike"/> Yeah.
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="147.440" EndTime="149.875" Participant="me011">
Oh. It's just - I'll - Let me raise the gain on that a little bit
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="147.643" EndTime="148.841" Participant="fe008">
Channel B_.
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<Segment StartTime="148.434" EndTime="148.925" Participant="me018">
O_K.
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="150.931" EndTime="151.813" Participant="fe008">
Channel B_. <Comment Description="whispered"/>
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<Segment StartTime="150.943" EndTime="152.556" Participant="me011">
since it's so far from your mouth.
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<Segment StartTime="154.966" EndTime="160.188" Participant="me018">
<NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="155.044" EndTime="157.101" Participant="fe016">
<NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="155.740" EndTime="156.247" Participant="me011">
Sorry.
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="156.770" EndTime="160.024" Participant="me013">
<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> O_K. <VocalSound Description="clears throat"/> So we sent them -
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<Segment StartTime="160.188" EndTime="163.640" Participant="me018">
So we gave <Pronounce Pronunciation="&quot;em&quot;"> them </Pronounce> four meetings before he left and, um,
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<Segment StartTime="164.413" EndTime="168.021" Participant="me018">
that's <Emphasis> it. </Emphasis> So, um, I don't think we'll hear from him before he gets back.
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<Segment StartTime="165.640" EndTime="166.165" Participant="me011">
O_K.
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="167.837" EndTime="169.160" Participant="me013">
<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> And the-
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<Segment StartTime="168.009" EndTime="169.670" CloseMic="false">
<NonVocalSound Description="door"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="168.079" EndTime="169.828" Participant="fe008">
<VocalSound Description="mouth"/> Do they know about your pie chart?
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<Segment StartTime="170.316" EndTime="170.912" Participant="me001">
<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="170.690" EndTime="171.670" Participant="me018">
<VocalSound Description="mouth"/> I don't know.
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<Segment StartTime="171.652" EndTime="172.132" Participant="fe008">
O_K. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
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<Segment StartTime="171.980" EndTime="172.637" Participant="me018">
I don't know.
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="172.217" EndTime="172.850" Participant="me013">
What pie chart?
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<Segment StartTime="172.920" EndTime="175.939" Participant="me011">
Pie? Oh. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<Segment StartTime="173.592" EndTime="175.098" Participant="fe016">
<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<Segment StartTime="174.132" EndTime="177.707" Participant="fe008">
He has a nice pie chart on the, uh, s- the current status page,
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<Segment StartTime="174.334" EndTime="175.450" Participant="me001">
<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<Segment StartTime="175.694" EndTime="176.524" Participant="mn017">
<NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
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<Segment StartTime="175.949" EndTime="178.008" Participant="mn014">
<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<Segment StartTime="176.390" EndTime="176.944" Participant="fe016">
Pie. <Comment Description="whispered"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="178.290" EndTime="184.636" Participant="fe008">
which shows the amount of transc- amount of data that had been <Emphasis> transcribed </Emphasis> and the amount - out of the <Emphasis> entire </Emphasis> - and
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<Segment StartTime="180.279" EndTime="183.480" Participant="me001">
<NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="181.869" EndTime="182.385" Participant="mn017">
Mm-hmm.
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="184.636" EndTime="184.983" Participant="fe008">
<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="184.983" EndTime="187.362" Participant="fe008">
at <Emphasis> this </Emphasis> point it's not quite <Emphasis> half. </Emphasis>
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<Segment StartTime="187.862" EndTime="189.486" Participant="fe008">
Wouldn't - Is that what you'd say, with the pie chart?
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<Segment StartTime="189.486" EndTime="190.097" Participant="fe008">
<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="189.590" EndTime="190.135" Participant="me018">
Yeah.
</Segment>
<Segment StartTime="190.097" EndTime="195.481" Participant="fe008">
And then <Emphasis> of </Emphasis> that, there's, uh, a little sliver - I could try and draw it but it's probably better to describe. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> So - <VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/>
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<Segment StartTime="194.180" EndTime="196.378" Participant="me013">
Half the data that's been recorded has been transcribed?
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<Emphasis> Roughly. </Emphasis> <Emphasis> Almost. </Emphasis> <Emphasis> Not </Emphasis> quite. <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> And I haven't actually caught up with, uh - since I got back so <Emphasis> recently </Emphasis> from my <Emphasis> vacation. </Emphasis>
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Wow! That's getting pretty good.
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Um, I know that the transcribers finished, um, uh, <Emphasis> several </Emphasis> meetings while I was gone.
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<VocalSound Description="mouth"/> Oh.
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And I haven't told <Emphasis> you </Emphasis> cuz I haven't - I haven't figured out which ones they <Emphasis> are </Emphasis> y- are yet. But when that happens, then that pie will get even <Emphasis> closer </Emphasis> to the midline. It's not quite -
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Right.
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Mm-hmm.
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Mm-hmm.
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not quite fifty percent but <Pause/> really <Pronounce Pronunciation="&quot;gettin&quot;"> getting </Pronounce> close.
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<VocalSound Description="breath"/> Hmm.
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<VocalSound Description="mouth"/> O_K. So also, um -
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I think it <Emphasis> will </Emphasis> be.
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You mean, pi will be close to one half?
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/> That's new. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> Well, <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> not mathematically. n- <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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Now, <Emphasis> that's </Emphasis> a strange - <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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Well, if we can have three point one four times as much tr- transcribed as we recorded, we <Emphasis> really </Emphasis> would be doing well. <Comment Description="while laughing"/>
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Yep.
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Right.
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<VocalSound Description="mouth"/> Um. So -
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But it's a nice - it's - I recommend his - his - his graphic, cuz it's - it's a really nice graphic.
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You know, this - this raises some -
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> How much -
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Mm-hmm.
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How do you <Emphasis> transcribe </Emphasis> that?
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How much do we need transcribed before it's worth doing some trainings?
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Oh. B- uh -
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Mmm.
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I mean, it seems like probably we have enough now. Right? Because, like - like <Emphasis> Macrophone </Emphasis> wasn't that much data. Right? And it helped.
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We can -
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You mean -
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Well, we already use it for digit training.
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But - but that was <Emphasis> read </Emphasis> speech.
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You only used that for digits? Right.
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I mean -
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Well, we <Emphasis> did </Emphasis> do some training on digits - uh, rather adaptation on digits - digits. I mean, supervised adaptation. So.
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That's right.
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Mm-hmm.
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> Yeah. I mean, uh -
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Maybe like twenty hours. We could try, but -
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Maybe not counting the non-native
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speech, cuz if - That - that just doesn't translate very well.
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<VocalSound Description="mouth"/> Well,
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<VocalSound Description="breath"/> I would - I would love to do some, um -
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you know, with adaptation you can use fairly small amount of data to improve your performance. <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> Um,
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Right.
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and
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n- you know, it's just basically, uh -
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<Uncertain> uh </Uncertain>
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You know, I - I don't have to time to - to do too much these days except what I'm <Emphasis> already </Emphasis> doing. So -
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Mm-hmm.
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um, but if there's some - someone has some free time, I'm - I'll be happy to show them
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how it works and <Pause/> you can play with it.
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Cool.
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> Um.
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> <Comment Description="as if to speak"/>
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Uh, I <Pronounce Pronunciation="&quot;thoughtcha&quot;, assimilation"> thought you </Pronounce> - you were <Emphasis> already </Emphasis> using adaptation
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> No, supervised adaptation. So, we're doing s- unsupervised speaker adaptation.
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w- on the test set.
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Supervised.
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I see.
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But <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> you could <Pause/> build a test set which you sort of take your models and ada-
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Oh, O_K.
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Got it. <VocalSound Description="outbreath"/>
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do supervised adaptation. And then you start with the speaker adaptation from sort of channel-adapted <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> or room-adapted or whatever. <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
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Right.
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Right.
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Yeah, yeah. Yeah, whatever this is.
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<VocalSound Description="mouth"/> H- how would you imagine doing a test set on this corpus? A test set, training set division? <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
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I mean, it- it's really weird. Right? Because it's - it would be hard to get speaker disjoint sets.
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<VocalSound Description="mouth"/> Right.
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Do y- do we just give up on that?
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Right. And actually the - I was thinking about this <Comment Description="embedded"/> - the original application doesn't really appl-
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I mean, if you're using this over and over again, you're gonna be testing on the same - the same speakers.
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Well, but then you have the supervised versus unsupervised question.
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I just mean that it's not a <Emphasis> terrible </Emphasis> thing to assume that you don't - that
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you don't have disjoint sets,
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Right.
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Mm-hmm.
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So.
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for this particular kind of <Pause/> application.
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> Right. <VocalSound Description="outbreath"/> Yeah.
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I mean -
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Yeah.
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I mean, you could have some
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parts of it that are disjoint and some that aren't, and see what the difference is, you know,
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> It's - it's sort of like in, um, Broadcast News <Comment Description="rising intonation"/> because you have those people who re-occur
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Yeah.
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on the others. Yeah.
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Yeah.
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over and over. I mean,
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the anchor speakers tend typically. So, um -
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Right.
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<Uncertain> m- m- m- m- </Uncertain>
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Yeah. As long as you're aware that you're doing that, that's - I don't see that as a problem.
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You can separate it out and see how - if they're - Yeah.
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And then s- s- similarly with <Emphasis> subject </Emphasis> matter. That, you know, if you're training your language model on
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<Emphasis> this </Emphasis> meeting <Emphasis> only </Emphasis> and <Emphasis> testing </Emphasis> on this meeting only, you're gonna do a lot better than if you start crossing them. <VocalSound Description="mouth"/>
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Mm-hmm.
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<Emphasis> Somewhat. </Emphasis> Although what's interesting is that the majority of the <Emphasis> words </Emphasis> in the language model are actually -
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Mm-hmm.
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Are the same.
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Yeah. They're actually these, like, function words and "Yeah!" and s- stuff like that. And <Emphasis> there </Emphasis> there's a lot of speaker dependence there.
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Sure.
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Mm-hmm.
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Mm-hmm.
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Yeah.
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Even the transcribers will say they know who the speaker is after a while just from their
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Just from word choice? Yeah.
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backchannels and - Right. So y- So, I don't think you're
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talking the way you <Emphasis> write, </Emphasis> in - in other words.
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<Uncertain> Most </Uncertain> certainly. So it's just, uh,
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if we're gonna do that we should <Pause/> give some thought to how we wanna divide it up.
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Yeah. Yeah, so, you know, maybe someone else would do <Pause/> a lot of the work where probably <Pause/> your advice
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Yeah. <Comment Description="very quietly"/>
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Yeah. And similarly with digits. We now have a lot of <Emphasis> digits </Emphasis> but most of them aren't transcribed.
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would be helpful.
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<VocalSound Description="clears throat"/> So if we wanted to do a forced alignment on them, we could start collecting ourselves up a fairly large digit corpus.
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Yeah. Well, we'd -
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And so, same issue. <Uncertain> You know </Uncertain> we just need to get
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We want that for sure. Yeah.
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someone who's interested in that to start looking at it.
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<VocalSound Description="breath"/> <Comment Description="during mike noise"/>
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So who's <Emphasis> working </Emphasis> on digits currently?
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> Uh, Dave Gelbart.
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O_K, maybe I'll talk to him and see if he's interested.
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Not <Pause/> right away. He's got prelims and - Yeah. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> Yeah. <VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/>
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Yeah, <Pronounce Pronunciation="&quot;shertainly&quot;"> certainly. </Pronounce> He wants to pass the prelims. <VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/>
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Hmm.
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Um, <VocalSound Description="mouth"/>
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one thing, uh, uh, just a e- uh, uh, an announcement of sorts is that, um,
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Chuck is gonna be going to a meeting at NIST,
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in, uh, about a month and a <Emphasis> half, </Emphasis> I guess. They're still working out the date.
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cuz they want to gather together sort of one person from each site who is involved in the meeting stuff since they're going to be doing
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a bunch of meeting recordings <Emphasis> there. </Emphasis> And so, uh.
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Mm-hmm.
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<VocalSound Description="mouth"/> Is, uh - ? Are the C_M_U folks gonna be there?
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> Somebody - you know, it's like one person - at the moment it's one person from each site. So there'll be somebody from the C_M_U, and somebody from here, and somebody from,
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> uh, a - a number of places. Probably somebody from U_W. Um.
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So.
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> Yeah, it's <Emphasis> possible </Emphasis> they'll open it up to more people. But - but I think, you know, the main thing is just to,
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uh - uh - uh - uh, it's not a - it's not a conference. It's not a workshop, really. It's just connecting with them.
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Right.
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So.
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<VocalSound Description="breath"/> Um. So, then if <Emphasis> they </Emphasis> start a bunch of recordings then ultimately they'll -
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they'll have training sets and test sets, and - <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> and all that - all that stuff, and - But.
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But it would be interesting to hear what they intend to do about the speaker overlap, for instance.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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What's the plan if - were we still going to be like a <Pause/> center for <Emphasis> transcribing </Emphasis> data? What happens if
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th- they don't deliver things until <Pause/> next year or something when we <Pause/> have less <Pause/> <Emphasis> resources </Emphasis> or - ?
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I-
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<VocalSound Description="breath"/> Well, again the <Emphasis> hope </Emphasis> is <VocalSound Description="outbreath"/> that, uh - I mean, it's - it's looking - I mean, I have to ask <Emphasis> these </Emphasis> folks but, uh, my impression is that the, um, I_B_M
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Yep.
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<Emphasis> path </Emphasis> is looking, you know, more promising.
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It - it - pretty good. Yeah.
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Hmm.
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And if that's the <Emphasis> case </Emphasis> and if it turns out that, uh, it's <Emphasis> really </Emphasis> a relatively small amount of time
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for our transcribers to process things before and after, if they really have taken out <Emphasis> enough </Emphasis> of the - of the, uh,
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uh, work that - that it's f- feasible, then maybe we can do it with a smaller staff next year.
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Mm-hmm.
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I mean, <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> next - next year, uh, in which he's - you're referring to is, uh, next year we - we don't have a whole lot of guaranteed funding for this -
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this work. Um, other funding may come.
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You know that's - But - but if we wanna just count on, uh,
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uh, what we <Emphasis> know </Emphasis> about, it's - it's more modest than this year. Uh, it's still - there'll still be money,
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but it's just more modest. So - <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
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um, so I would see us as probably not doing more recordings <Comment Description="rising intonation"/> at least for - for - for meetings or - or digits or anything.
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But, uh, if - if we feel that we need to, probably still doing some recordings for SmartKom or something.
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> Um, but otherwise just, you know, stop that and just <Pause/> take whatever comes from the other places, which,
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Yeah.
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uh, I guess we have an u- unknown rate. If it - if it starts being - if they're generating this <Emphasis> huge </Emphasis> amount and we can't
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handle it then, you know, we'll tell them.
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But.
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Uh, although it would have been nice if that - their stuff had come earlier, it- it's <Uncertain> in </Uncertain> some ways a good thing, because we've been <VocalSound Description="laugh-sniff"/> ironing out this <Pause/> path.
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So. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
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Um. Well, I got a email from one of the U_W guys. They want to record the meetings at higher, uh, sampling rate than sixteen <Pause/> kilohertz. Uh,
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I didn't ask why. But it seems to me <Pause/> that really doesn't matter. If they have the disk space to do it,
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it seems that that <Pause/> is not a big deal.
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I was just wondering if anyone had <Pause/> an opinion
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<VocalSound Description="mouth"/> Well, it's just if that they're sending <Uncertain> it </Uncertain> to <Emphasis> us, </Emphasis> then we have to have the disk space to do it too.
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about mismatched <Pause/> rates.
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Can't we <Emphasis> downsample </Emphasis> and, uh, transcribe on <Emphasis> that </Emphasis> basis?
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That would be the <Emphasis> hope. </Emphasis> Yeah. d- Are they <Pause/> doing some nice integer multiple or - ?
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Yep.
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<VocalSound Description="outbreath"/>
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Excuse me?
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> Are they doing some nice integer multiple of th- of sixteen?
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No.
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Are they - they're doing, like, twenty-two or s- ? <Comment Description="leading question"/>
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No. No, no, it was like forty something. Forty-four, forty-two.
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<Uncertain> Could - </Uncertain> Forty-eight? Forty - forty-four? Yeah. C_D-ROM. Yeah.
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F-
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So, C_D.
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C_D. Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Oh, forty-four point one.
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Forty-four.
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Forty-four one.
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Yeah.
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S-
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Something like that.
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Yeah.
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<VocalSound Description="clears throat"/>
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Oh, so that's -
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> Well, you know, we record here at for- at forty-eight or something and then we downsample.
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And then we downsample. Yep.
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But forty-eight's a nice multiple of <Pause/> eight.
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> But - but it - but forty-four and sixteen are not
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Yeah.
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Well you can do it.
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You can <Emphasis> do </Emphasis> it, I think.
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easy? Yeah? It's not lossy?
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Oh, absolutely you can do it. Yeah. You can do - you can go from anything to anything else.
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You c- y-
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But - but it's - it's just - it's - it's just a little more complicated.
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You get aliasing.
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As long as you're - Yeah. As long as you're not doing the processing on the <Pause/> downsampled - I mean -
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There's probably some -
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> It's just like -
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Just for transcribing it, you mean? <Comment Description="last two words quietly"/>
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Yeah. So - u- u- u-
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Yeah. I mean, it's just slightly more complicated, but it's - but i- you can - you can go from any frequency to anyth- any other frequency. So it's -
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Well, the - the <Emphasis> only </Emphasis> thought was if we're gonna do a combined corpus, does it really matter if some's sampled at one rate and some's sampled at the other? <Emphasis> My </Emphasis> feeling is no, it doesn't.
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Your audio, u- these days audio tools tend to take care of all of that.
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But I just wanted to double check with other people before I told <Pronounce Pronunciation="&quot;em&quot;"> them </Pronounce> "yeah, no problem".
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<VocalSound Description="mouth"/> <Emphasis> Also </Emphasis> seems like the <Emphasis> corpus </Emphasis> could all be <Emphasis> standardized </Emphasis> on s- on this - the, uh - Yeah.
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That's what I was saying. So - so -
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Why are - why are they asking us?
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I don't know.
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Why are they asking us? Because, you know, we're sort of doing the corpus, so they want to be as similar as possible.
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A- and, so I gue- <VocalSound Description="outbreath"/>
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<Uncertain> It </Uncertain> could be interesting.
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So. But I think the answer is, if - if we tell him "no, that's not alright", what he'll probably say is "well, we're gonna do it anyway". But, uh,
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Well that's - that's why I'm asking.
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Well, it will be interesting to find out <Emphasis> why </Emphasis> they are choosing a higher sampling -
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Yeah.
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Uh. Yep.
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> Well, I would suspect it's because it's what the <Emphasis> hardware </Emphasis> does.
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It's kind of a s-
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For -
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Oh, and they just don't want to downsample?
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Yeah.
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> Yeah.
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Well, someone's gonna have to downsample.
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But then they're just - they're just - there's just deferring the problem to later and they might save themselves a lot of disk space problems by doing it right away. <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
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Yeah. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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They're taking up more disk space. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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Yeah. It -
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Yeah.
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I - I- <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> I think it's the sort of thing that's deserving of discussion
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O_K.
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with them. I d- I don't think it's like, i- uh, they'll ask us, we'll give a simple answer and come back. It needs some back and forth because it's - <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
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I mean that's wha-
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<NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/> Yeah.
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it- it's a little gnarly to have parts of the database with different things. And it's,
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That's like three times - three times as much disk space.
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Yeah. It's <Pause/> four or five times.
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Yeah.
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Depends what you save.
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um,
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<VocalSound Description="breath"/> i-
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You know, part of the arguments for the higher sampling rate is that maybe there's something, you know, say, in six to ten kilohertz that
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you might use for - for some purposes <Emphasis> somewhere. </Emphasis> If people are doing a <Emphasis> wide </Emphasis> range of things, doing location,
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uh, you know, doing a bunch of things, maybe, you know, why - why throw it away if you don't need to?
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Um, on the other hand, um, I mean,
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it's <Uncertain NumSyllables="1"> @@ </Uncertain> - <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> sixty kilohertz is <Emphasis> plenty. </Emphasis> <Comment Description="while laughing"/> So - <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> so - <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
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Yep. That's wh- that's what I thought.
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Yeah.
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So, uh, I th- I - I think it's - it's, uh -
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And they <Emphasis> are </Emphasis> gonna be using up a lot of disk, both for th- <Emphasis> them </Emphasis> and for <Emphasis> us </Emphasis> when we're pr- processing their stuff, uh, if they
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Mm-hmm.
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<VocalSound Description="breath"/> We should warn them that these disk space issues <Pause/> are gonna creep up on them very fast. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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Yep. Yep.
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They'll have to start kicking people out of the meetings, like -
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Well, i- w- wa- if - if they're going at forty-four, they won't even creep. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> They'll just pounce.
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Yeah, but -
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> Right. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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Yeah. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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Yeah. <Comment Description="while laughing"/>
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As long as they have only, like, three people per meeting. <VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/>
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How many channels?
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I mean, they can just limit the number of <Uncertain> people </Uncertain>. <Comment Description="last two words while laughing"/>
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Um, I don't remember what their hardware set-up was but it was smaller than ours.
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Well, that might help a <Emphasis> bit. </Emphasis>
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Yeah.
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<VocalSound Description="breath"/> Yeah, actually I think at NIST they were ta- there were - there was some discussion of fairly high sampling rates too, so.
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<VocalSound Description="mouth"/> Well, with NIST I think
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they're - they're in a different situation cuz they're doing video.
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And so compared to the video, the audio is just noise in terms of disk space, literally. <Comment Description="while laughing"/>
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Hmm.
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<VocalSound Description="mouth"/>
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I don't think that's true.
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Really?
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They're recording fifty channels of mikes.
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They're not recording all <Emphasis> fifty </Emphasis> of the <Pause/> <Emphasis> array. </Emphasis> They're - they're <Pronounce Pronunciation="&quot;cookin&quot;"> cooking </Pronounce> it down, aren't they?
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Yeah, they are.
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Yeah. They were g- they <Emphasis> said </Emphasis> they were gonna record <Uncertain NumSyllables="1"> @@ </Uncertain> - I don't know if there were <Emphasis> fifty, </Emphasis> but there were definitely above, like, twenty.
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They're recording <Emphasis> all </Emphasis> of them.
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Whew. <Comment Description="vocal gesture, lengthened, indicating amazement"/>
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Yeah.
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That's funny. I thought that they were <Pronounce Pronunciation="&quot;cookin&quot;"> cooking </Pronounce> down that data <Pause/> in some way before they were storing it.
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It was - it was <Emphasis> high. </Emphasis>
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I don't believe so. No. I don't think so.
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<VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/>
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<Segment StartTime="898.566" EndTime="904.278" Participant="me013">
No. So I think they - they have actually a very large audio data rate. I think it is comparable to a video data rate.
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/> <Uncertain> O_K. </Uncertain>
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<VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/>
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So. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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How in the world are they gonna ever distribute this?
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Yeah, distributing - They're not going to.
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<Segment StartTime="911.062" EndTime="913.388" Participant="me013">
Uh. <Comment Description="lengthened"/>
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<VocalSound Description="outbreath"/>
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<Segment StartTime="912.819" EndTime="914.098" Participant="me018">
You're gonna have to just get -
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Interesting question. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<Segment StartTime="916.155" EndTime="917.370" Participant="me018">
Because <Emphasis> our </Emphasis> -
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You'll have to just work on little subsets of it. There's just no way <Pause/> you could get it all.
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<Segment StartTime="919.775" EndTime="922.252" Participant="me018">
<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> We're - we're estimating that ours -
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<VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/>
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<Segment StartTime="922.252" EndTime="930.104" Participant="me018">
if we collect say a hundred meetings and each meeting is just the audio, compressed audio's half a gig, so there's fifty gigs just for our corpus.
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<VocalSound Description="breath"/> <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
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<Segment StartTime="929.820" EndTime="930.176" Participant="me011">
Yep.
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<Segment StartTime="930.619" EndTime="934.260" Participant="me018">
For a hundred meetings. And, uh, you know -
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<Segment StartTime="933.372" EndTime="934.689" Participant="me001">
That's eight kilohertz?
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<Segment StartTime="933.494" EndTime="935.382" Participant="me013">
And that's - and that's - and that's no video.
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<Segment StartTime="935.220" EndTime="935.791" Participant="me011">
Sixteen.
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Sixteen.
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<Segment StartTime="935.489" EndTime="936.720" Participant="me018">
That's sixteen.
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Sixteen.
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Sixteen.
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<Segment StartTime="937.460" EndTime="938.650" Participant="me018">
And so,
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<Segment StartTime="938.219" EndTime="939.116" Participant="me013">
Sample rate, yeah.
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<Segment StartTime="938.640" EndTime="939.619" Participant="fe016">
You just get, like,
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<Segment StartTime="939.195" EndTime="940.801" Participant="me001">
Oh, it's shortened. Oh, O_K.
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<Segment StartTime="939.610" EndTime="946.530" Participant="me018">
even - even a distribution of fifty gigs, you know, it's - if you use D_V_Ds or something, that's -
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<Segment StartTime="940.100" EndTime="942.472" Participant="fe016">
one backchannel at a time or something. <Comment Description="last two words while laughing"/>
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<Segment StartTime="941.000" EndTime="941.948" Participant="mn014">
Yeah. It's shortened.
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<Segment StartTime="941.968" EndTime="942.855" Participant="me001">
And then shortened.
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<Segment StartTime="942.816" EndTime="943.126" Participant="mn014">
Yeah.
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<VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/>
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<Segment StartTime="946.170" EndTime="949.127" Participant="me011">
A lot. <Comment Description="completing [me018]'s utterance"/> <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<Segment StartTime="947.610" EndTime="950.240" Participant="me018">
It's still, yeah, two or three D_V_Ds but -
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<Segment StartTime="949.569" EndTime="951.874" Participant="me013">
Yeah, not if you have to distribute the video also.
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<Segment StartTime="949.941" EndTime="950.878" Participant="me011">
Two or three?
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<Segment StartTime="951.125" EndTime="953.860" Participant="me018">
If you use both sides and the two layer and all that.
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<Segment StartTime="953.830" EndTime="957.190" Participant="me011">
It's a lot more than <Emphasis> that. </Emphasis> Right? D_V_D is <Pause/> eight gig?
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<VocalSound Description="breath"/>
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<Segment StartTime="957.142" EndTime="962.907" Participant="me013">
Well, I think you'll have some interesting discussions next month when you go out there. I mean, how are they gonna - you know, what's - what's the distribution plan?
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S- seventeen. <Uncertain NumSyllables="2"> @@ </Uncertain>
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<Segment StartTime="959.820" EndTime="961.080" Participant="me018">
Yeah. Yeah. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
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<Segment StartTime="963.081" EndTime="963.609" Participant="me018">
Mm-hmm.
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<VocalSound Description="breath"/>
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<Segment StartTime="963.276" EndTime="966.741" Participant="me013">
If they have something really smart in mind, you know, maybe <Emphasis> we </Emphasis> can use it. I mean - I mean,
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w- we talked about sending around a disk or a computer. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<Segment StartTime="969.820" EndTime="971.593" Participant="me011">
I think that's definitely the right way to do it.
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Someone sends us disk. We - we load it with data and send it back. It's gonna be easier than any other method.
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Mmm - <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
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<Segment StartTime="978.820" EndTime="979.268" Participant="mn017">
Huh.
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<Segment StartTime="979.783" EndTime="981.360" Participant="me013">
Maybe a compu- maybe -
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<Segment StartTime="979.900" EndTime="983.697" Participant="me011">
Well, if not - if you want to burn the C_Ds, you're welcome to it. <Comment Description="while laughing"/> <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<Segment StartTime="982.647" EndTime="986.160" Participant="me018">
I say we give it to L_D_C and let them do it. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<Segment StartTime="984.600" EndTime="985.254" Participant="me011">
Well, yeah.
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<Segment StartTime="984.701" EndTime="985.316" Participant="fe016">
Hmm.
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<Segment StartTime="985.650" EndTime="989.089" Participant="me011">
Yeah, absolutely. If they have a way of doing it. I'm thinking <Emphasis> prior </Emphasis> to that.
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<Segment StartTime="986.402" EndTime="988.459" Participant="fe016">
<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> And there's never any talk - ?
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What's L_D_C? <Comment Description="whispered"/>
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<Segment StartTime="989.940" EndTime="992.120" Participant="fe016">
Was there ever any talk of taking the, um,
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Linguistic Data Consortium.
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Mmm.
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<Segment StartTime="992.437" EndTime="997.659" Participant="fe016">
<Emphasis> close-talking </Emphasis> mikes when people <Emphasis> aren't </Emphasis> talking and <Emphasis> deleting </Emphasis> those portions? Or is the breathing and things - ?
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<Segment StartTime="996.815" EndTime="999.111" Participant="me011">
We already do that. Shorten does that automatically.
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<Segment StartTime="998.331" EndTime="999.282" Participant="fe016">
Yeah? O_K.
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<Segment StartTime="999.111" EndTime="1003.594" Participant="me011">
That's why you - why - that's why Shorten - that's why Shorten reduces the size so much.
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<Segment StartTime="999.757" EndTime="1001.121" Participant="fe016">
And if they're still that big - <Comment Description="rising intonation"/>
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<Segment StartTime="1002.864" EndTime="1005.116" Participant="fe016">
I see. Yeah, that's true.
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<Segment StartTime="1004.600" EndTime="1006.128" Participant="me013">
That's why it's <Emphasis> only </Emphasis> fifty gigs.
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<Segment StartTime="1005.840" EndTime="1006.276" Participant="me011">
Right.
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<Segment StartTime="1006.146" EndTime="1012.199" Participant="fe016">
O_K. So it's still really big even if you're - only one person or two people at most are actually talking all the time.
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<VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/>
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Yep.
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<Segment StartTime="1013.462" EndTime="1014.057" Participant="fe016">
Wow.
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<Segment StartTime="1013.518" EndTime="1015.560" Participant="mn017">
We should just <Emphasis> talk </Emphasis> less.
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<Segment StartTime="1015.470" EndTime="1019.482" Participant="me011">
<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> Well, if you talk less it does in fact use less me- d- m- data.
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<Segment StartTime="1015.558" EndTime="1016.637" Participant="fe016">
Have shorter meetings!
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<Segment StartTime="1017.537" EndTime="1017.923" Participant="mn014">
Yeah.
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<Segment StartTime="1019.264" EndTime="1022.766" Participant="me013">
<VocalSound Description="laugh"/> Hey, it's - it's the first time I've ever heard you ask for less data. <Comment Description="while laughing"/>
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<NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
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<Segment StartTime="1020.050" EndTime="1021.245" Participant="me011">
So, the channels -
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<Segment StartTime="1020.164" EndTime="1020.540" Participant="mn014">
Yeah.
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<VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/>
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<Segment StartTime="1022.922" EndTime="1023.253" Participant="me011">
Hmm.
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<Segment StartTime="1023.123" EndTime="1025.690" Participant="fe016">
<VocalSound Description="laugh"/> Sorry. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<Segment StartTime="1024.920" EndTime="1030.216" Participant="me011">
It's actually one way to tell if a microphone is dead in a meeting is if the shortened file is too short.
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<Segment StartTime="1026.437" EndTime="1027.477" Participant="fe016">
Thanks, Morgan.
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<Segment StartTime="1029.904" EndTime="1031.720" Participant="mn014">
It's really short, yeah. Yeah.
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<VocalSound Description="mouth"/> Then you can be pretty sure that the mike was off.
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<Segment StartTime="1030.876" EndTime="1032.395" Participant="fe008">
Oh. <Comment Description="lengthened"/>
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<Segment StartTime="1032.820" EndTime="1033.187" Participant="mn014">
Yeah.
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Uh, O_K. <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
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<Segment StartTime="1036.230" EndTime="1042.454" Participant="me011">
<VocalSound Description="mouth"/> And, the t- unfortunately the <Emphasis> tabletop </Emphasis> ones - the <Emphasis> six </Emphasis> tabletop which we record <Emphasis> all </Emphasis> the time no matter <Emphasis> how </Emphasis> many people are there,
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<Segment StartTime="1043.400" EndTime="1046.747" Participant="me011">
uh, don't compress nearly as well because they're almost always have signal on them.
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<Segment StartTime="1046.678" EndTime="1052.436" Participant="me013">
Yeah, that's probably a lot of it. And they're gonna have mikes like that too. In fact, their <Emphasis> array </Emphasis> - their array will be - Yeah.
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Yeah. <Comment Description="very quietly and with creaky voice"/>
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Yeah.
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<Segment StartTime="1049.165" EndTime="1049.728" Participant="me001">
Yeah.
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Yep.
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Most of <Pronounce Pronunciation="&quot;em&quot;"> them. </Pronounce>
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All of <Pronounce Pronunciation="&quot;em&quot;"> them </Pronounce> are like that.
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<Segment StartTime="1051.629" EndTime="1051.900" Participant="me011">
Yep.
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<Segment StartTime="1052.316" EndTime="1053.831" Participant="me011">
So they won't shorten nearly as well.
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> <Uncertain NumSyllables="2"> @@ </Uncertain> <Comment Description="two uncodeable vocal squeaks"/> <VocalSound Description="outbreath"/> <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
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<Segment StartTime="1054.717" EndTime="1056.548" Participant="mn017">
<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> So f- so for dis-
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<Segment StartTime="1054.860" EndTime="1058.127" Participant="fe016">
Wow. Yeah. So - so they're really going to have a huge -
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<Segment StartTime="1055.065" EndTime="1056.823" Participant="me011">
And I assume they're gonna do it lossless.
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<Segment StartTime="1057.459" EndTime="1061.449" Participant="mn017">
for distribution purposes it might make sense to split it by channel,
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<Segment StartTime="1057.874" EndTime="1058.329" Participant="me011">
Yeah.
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<Segment StartTime="1061.910" EndTime="1064.265" Participant="mn017">
uh, rather than by meetings. So,
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you could distribute, like, only the near-field signals, uh, uh, uh, together for a bunch of meetings and then have a second <Uncertain> row </Uncertain>.
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Yep. Absolutely.
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And then maybe <Emphasis> one </Emphasis> far-field. You know?
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<VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/> Yeah.
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It's things - or the mixed channel. Yeah, I think there are a lot of ways to do it, but -
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Mmm.
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Let's not worry about that now. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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Yeah. <Comment Description="whispered"/>
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<VocalSound Description="breath"/> Right.
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Yeah.
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How are we on disk space, Chuck?
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<VocalSound Description="mouth"/> Um, we're O_K. We've got - for the, uh, <Emphasis> compressed </Emphasis> meetings we've still got about, I think it was four gigs,
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uh, on the <Emphasis> one </Emphasis> disk that we're using.
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Mm-hmm.
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And we've got several -
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we'v- we've still got, uh, quite a bit of space on the, uh, un-backed-up.
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So. But I - I think it's probably - we should start thinking about where to go <Emphasis> next, </Emphasis> especially on the <Emphasis> backed-up </Emphasis> disk space.
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Good.
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Now we bought - a little - not all that long ago we brought three <Pause/> uh, thirty-six gigabyte disks.
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That's the un-backed-up.
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Yeah. Those are the u-
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Yeah, we're using those for the - for the expanded.
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So, for example, the, uh - Guenter's Wall Street Journal data went onto one of those, uh, some other experiment things that people are doing are on there, and - <Comment Description="abandoned list"/>
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Uh-huh.
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> So.
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/> If you put it there people will use it. Yeah.
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So.
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So I think after that we need another, uh, <Emphasis> rack </Emphasis> or something. Right?
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Have to change <Emphasis> servers, </Emphasis> actually.
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Change <Emphasis> servers? </Emphasis>
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Well, we could - we could - There are a bunch of disks that we have,
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uh, that are s- s- smaller. And they're, like, seventeen. We could go to thirty-five. So we could <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
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get some extra space out of that. But the s- right now the server's full. We couldn't add any more <Emphasis> disks. </Emphasis> We could <Pause/> <Emphasis> change </Emphasis> a smaller disk for a <Emphasis> larger </Emphasis> one.
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> We should probably <Emphasis> do </Emphasis> that while <Pause/> we have the space left on the - on the th- the existing thirty-sixes, so that we can
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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<VocalSound Description="mouth"/> Yeah. The <Emphasis> problem </Emphasis> with that for <Emphasis> backed-up </Emphasis> media is, uh, the sysadmins wanna keep <Pronounce Pronunciation="&quot;em&quot;"> them </Pronounce> at eighteen meg - eighteen gig partitions
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shuffle it around.
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Mm-hmm.
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because that takes about a day to get off back-up tape.
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Oh.
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Well, then there's the other issue is that to g- to g-
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So.
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add more disk now, um, David says we really need to go to new <Emphasis> servers. </Emphasis> <Emphasis> But </Emphasis>
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he wants to go to new servers not just for <Emphasis> us </Emphasis> but for other groups <Emphasis> too. </Emphasis> So there's this sort of coordination issue, and
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For u- the whole institute. <Comment Description="completing [me018]'s utterance"/> Yeah.
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I guess I need to talk to him more about - <Comment Description="abandoned"/>
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<Segment StartTime="1187.690" EndTime="1193.717" Participant="me011">
Actually, <Emphasis> going </Emphasis> to bigger disks we can do even, and just maintain the eighteen gig partitions. You just partition them into multiple.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So that's probably the next step, is to get
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<Emphasis> That's </Emphasis> right.
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the eighty or ninety gig drives to replace the thirty gig or an eighteen gig that we have now.
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There are eighty gig drives now that you can get for that?
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Yeah. Yeah.
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<VocalSound Description="breath"/> See, and that's probably what we should send around for these - <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> to d- for distribution <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> of this corpus. <VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/>
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<Uncertain> This s- s- isn't any - </Uncertain>
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> A whole handful of microdrives. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<Emphasis> Yeah. </Emphasis>
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Well, when they come out with an-
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Is - is the areal density of the microdrive <Emphasis> higher </Emphasis> <Pause/> than of a w- normal drive? It <Emphasis> must </Emphasis> be.
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When they come out with the eighty gig <Emphasis> microdrive </Emphasis> then we'll just send one of <Emphasis> those </Emphasis> little things around with all the meeting data.
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Yep.
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Yeah.
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<Segment StartTime="1228.219" EndTime="1229.684" Participant="me013">
Yeah. That's what I <Emphasis> meant, </Emphasis> yeah.
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> Well, they have the two gig already. And I'm - I'm just thinking <Emphasis> forty </Emphasis> of them is probably still <Emphasis> smaller </Emphasis> <Pause/> in area than, uh, one normal-sized drive.
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> Actually, what - I think what - what, uh - was it - was it <Emphasis> Dave </Emphasis> who was suggesting <Comment Description="rising intonation"/> that, uh, you just get, uh, uh, a - a <Emphasis> computer </Emphasis>
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Yep.
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that has one of these drives in it <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> and just send the <Emphasis> computer </Emphasis> around to the different sites. And you can just <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> get it off the computer and press the - Yeah.
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Oh, God. Y- <Comment Description="while laughing"/>
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Put the computer on tour?
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Yeah. <Comment Description="while laughing"/> A laptop.
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Hmm.
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Laptop? Yeah, send the laptop.
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Yeah.
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Eighty gig laptop.
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And, of course you don't want - y- we don't want to trust the shippers <Emphasis> necessarily, </Emphasis> so you send a person too. And they just kind of go from site to site, and <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/> I'll - <Emphasis> I'll </Emphasis> do that.
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download their data kind of -
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It - uh, uh, unfortunately it takes me a week at each site.
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Johnny Appleseed. Yeah.
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What?
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It <Emphasis> does </Emphasis> take a week at each site. So.
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Does it?
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Yeah, a- absolutely. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> If it's a nice site. <Comment Description="while laughing"/> <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/> Especially Hawaii.
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> Yeah. There's a - there's a - they really need it in Novosibirsk.
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Yeah, right. <Comment Description="while laughing"/> Th- that only takes a day or so. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> R- r-
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<VocalSound Description="breath"/> Anyway.
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I'm probably pr- mispronouncing it. Well.
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But the University of Hawaii has issued a request. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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Yep. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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Yeah. Mm-hmm. That - that needs a month, yeah, <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> to download. Things are slower there. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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Yeah. <Comment Description="while laughing"/> <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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Definitely true.
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> Yeah.
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O_K.
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Any other items?
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So. O_K, so that's the meeting stuff. Uh, transcrip- So you're - we're - you said it was almost half, so that means that we have, like, eighty or so hours and out of that maybe thirty-five or something are <Pause/> transcribed?
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> Yeah. The - the pie chart shows actually <Pause/> m- meetings that are,
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uh - it combines the categories of, you know, "currently in -"
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Oh! Well, I've got it right there, I think.
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/> I - I saw the pie chart sticking out, so.
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Yeah. There's - there's just a few, uh,
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<VocalSound Description="mouth"/> Do you want to write on the l- on the <Emphasis> board? </Emphasis>
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Um. Yeah, except I - I'm tethered. Uh,
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D- d- do we care?
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He's tethered, yeah.
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<Emphasis> I </Emphasis> could write on the board. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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O_K.
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It <Emphasis> combines </Emphasis> categories. So when we say "transcribed", we mean either in the <Emphasis> process </Emphasis> of being transcribed, either here or at I_B_M,
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Oh.
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<NonVocalSound Description="squeak"/>
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Yeah.
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or <Emphasis> completed </Emphasis> transcription,
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and it also includes, uh, checked. So it includes a lot of categories together. So. <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
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<VocalSound Description="mouth"/> I see.
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We need different color pens, definitely.
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<VocalSound Description="mouth"/> And that - I think that that status thing is kinda old actually right now.
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Oh, that's - Yeah, that's not half. Yeah.
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<VocalSound Description="mouth"/> Last updated in <Emphasis> July. </Emphasis>
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<NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
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That one that you have?
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Oh, I'm not sure. The one that I saw on the <Emphasis> web </Emphasis> when I came <Emphasis> back. </Emphasis>
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O_K. <Comment Description="whispered"/>
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<NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
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Yeah.
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The - <NonVocalSound Description="paper rustling"/>
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Rustle, rustle. <Comment Description="metacomment by speaker, comic-speak or narration of action"/>
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the date on this one is July twenty-sixth, so, uh, I have to update it. Yeah.
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A couple weeks ago. Yeah.
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O_K.
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<Segment StartTime="1372.447" EndTime="1375.065" Participant="me013">
<VocalSound Description="mouth"/> But about <Emphasis> how </Emphasis> much do we have that's sort of, uh - ?
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<VocalSound Description="breath"/>
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So we have total number of meetings is seventy-eight <Pause/> meetings and,
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Mmm.
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uh,
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uh, the total meeting time is seventy-five hours.
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Mm-hmm.
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<Uncertain> Oh. </Uncertain> <Comment Description="quietly"/>
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<Segment StartTime="1386.486" EndTime="1388.306" Participant="me018">
And, um - <VocalSound Description="mouth"/>
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So, <VocalSound Description="outbreath"/>
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<Segment StartTime="1391.120" EndTime="1397.285" Participant="me018">
the ones that are <Emphasis> finished </Emphasis> being transcribed, as opposed to in the process of being transcribed - we've got twenty-six hours that are
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Oh! Great.
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finished being transcribed.
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<Segment StartTime="1398.778" EndTime="1400.917" Participant="me001">
What does that mean, "finished being transcribed"?
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<NonVocalSound Description="rustling"/>
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<VocalSound Description="mouth"/> Um.
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<Segment StartTime="1401.748" EndTime="1406.119" Participant="me018">
So there's, uh, several processes to the transcription. There's, uh -
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I- it ranges from being assigned to a transcriber,
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to <Pause/> them finishing transcription, to then being checked, you know, with a double-check.
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Mm-hmm.
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
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And so, when we say the total transcribed, that's the one that's gone through being <Emphasis> checked, </Emphasis> I believe.
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I think that's what the - I have here. <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
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<Segment StartTime="1423.170" EndTime="1423.753" Participant="me001">
O_K.
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Just not yet approved for - Yeah? O_K.
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<Segment StartTime="1424.744" EndTime="1431.259" Participant="me018">
But not yet approved. And then there's, uh - the final one is approved for release. That's after the meeting participants have <Pause/> gone through it.
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<Segment StartTime="1427.746" EndTime="1428.499" Participant="me011">
<VocalSound Description="mouth"/> Oh.
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<Segment StartTime="1429.860" EndTime="1431.914" Participant="me011">
So I should probably send those to you, shouldn't I?
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<Segment StartTime="1431.585" EndTime="1432.425" Participant="me001">
Oh.
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<Segment StartTime="1431.763" EndTime="1434.819" Participant="fe008">
Yes. At present there's - n- <Emphasis> none </Emphasis> of those are on the pie chart.
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<Segment StartTime="1432.262" EndTime="1433.251" Participant="me018">
Yeah, if you know.
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<Segment StartTime="1433.944" EndTime="1436.820" Participant="me018">
<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> Yeah, currently that's zero, released - uh, approve-
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<Segment StartTime="1435.978" EndTime="1436.707" Participant="me011">
There are five.
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<Segment StartTime="1438.120" EndTime="1438.510" Participant="me018">
Huh?
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<Segment StartTime="1438.589" EndTime="1441.521" Participant="me011">
There are five. We have five where, uh, everyone has replied.
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<Segment StartTime="1438.647" EndTime="1439.789" Participant="fe008">
There're <Emphasis> five? </Emphasis> Good.
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O_K.
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<NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
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<Segment StartTime="1441.706" EndTime="1444.724" Participant="me018">
O_K. So we have five that are potentially releasable <Uncertain> then </Uncertain>.
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> So the c- the cross-hatching there is, um - is it's been through the double-check. Right?
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<Segment StartTime="1449.028" EndTime="1451.163" Participant="fe008">
I mean, it's - this is the - it's- it's been tran-
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<Segment StartTime="1450.859" EndTime="1453.280" Participant="me018">
Yeah. That's approval in progress. Yeah.
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<Segment StartTime="1451.190" EndTime="1451.641" Participant="me013">
Mm-hmm.
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Everything on the - <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
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So, I mean, it's - <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<Segment StartTime="1454.574" EndTime="1459.402" Participant="fe008">
When I add a couple more from - that, uh - that were done in my absence, I think that th- we'll be down to about <Emphasis> there. </Emphasis> <Comment Description="pointing to a point on the pie chart"/>
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So it's not quite as close to half as I'd thought, but it's, you know -
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it's more than a - <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> And so these right here have been through the <Emphasis> double-check. </Emphasis> These haven't.
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Mm-hmm.
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Oh, how <Emphasis> nice </Emphasis> of you, holding - holding the thing so I'm not - <Comment Description="while laughing"/> <Comment Description="[me011] was holding the battery box connected to her headset while she wrote on the board"/>
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It was falling off, uh. <Comment Description="while laughing"/>
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Yeah, thank you. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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Yeah.
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O_K.
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<Segment StartTime="1476.172" EndTime="1477.525" Participant="me013">
<VocalSound Description="mouth"/> Uh.
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<VocalSound Description="breath"/>
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Alright. So we still have a long <Comment Description="&quot;long&quot; while laughing, intensifier"/> ways to go but maybe the, uh -
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<Segment StartTime="1480.235" EndTime="1484.180" Participant="me013">
the I_B_M thing will - will help push through the - the rest of it somewhat quicker.
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O_K.
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<NonVocalSound Description="shuffling papers"/> <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
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<Segment StartTime="1489.440" EndTime="1493.387" Participant="me011">
<VocalSound Description="mouth"/> And there's still, uh, <Emphasis> two </Emphasis> people for whom I have not been able to get in touch -
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have never gotten a response from - from any of the emails about, uh <Pause/> permission forms. So.
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<VocalSound Description="breath"/>
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<VocalSound Description="mouth"/> Are they from one of the foreign-language ones? I mean - O_K, good.
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<NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
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Yep.
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<Segment StartTime="1502.760" EndTime="1505.444" Participant="me011">
That's so - that's why the N_S_A ones have still not been approved.
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<VocalSound Description="sniff"/>
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<Segment StartTime="1506.500" EndTime="1506.876" Participant="me011">
Though.
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<NonVocalSound Description="shuffling papers"/>
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<Segment StartTime="1507.031" EndTime="1509.476" Participant="fe008">
Those will figure less prominently in things anyway.
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Yep.
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<Segment StartTime="1511.190" EndTime="1515.354" Participant="me013">
Yeah. It might - it might partly just be <Pause/> European summer vacation issues.
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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Possibly. It's been, like, four months, so. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/> Wow.
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Oh. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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Uh, you know those Europeans. They got a lot of vaca- <Comment Description="while laughing"/> <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<VocalSound Description="mouth"/> Long vacations. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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Right. Hmm. <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> O_K.
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Uh, <Comment Description="lengthened"/> www. <Comment Description="vocal gesture, intonation of &quot;I don't know&quot; but not articulated"/> What else is going on?
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You -
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<Segment StartTime="1533.132" EndTime="1535.750" Participant="me013">
<VocalSound Description="mouth"/> Why don't we just go around, cuz we only have a few minutes.
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<Segment StartTime="1534.361" EndTime="1537.238" Participant="mn014">
Didn't you wanna say something about the hardware <Pause/> set-up?
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<Segment StartTime="1536.781" EndTime="1537.988" Participant="me011">
Oh, that's right. Uh.
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<Segment StartTime="1538.364" EndTime="1543.230" Participant="me011">
Yeah, we have new hardware. So, I want to set it up at some point, so I just wanted to know what meeting schedules were.
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<Segment StartTime="1543.324" EndTime="1544.466" Participant="me013">
<VocalSound Description="mouth"/> <Emphasis> What </Emphasis> new hardware?
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<Segment StartTime="1544.770" EndTime="1550.746" Participant="me011">
Uh, we have several more wireless channels so that we can set up and get rid of these, uh - the wired stuff completely.
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<VocalSound Description="clears throat"/>
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<Segment StartTime="1545.241" EndTime="1545.636" Participant="fe016">
Huh.
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<NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
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<Segment StartTime="1547.874" EndTime="1548.317" Participant="me013">
Oh.
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<Segment StartTime="1551.458" EndTime="1553.659" Participant="me011">
<VocalSound Description="mouth"/> And then also we got replacements for <Emphasis> these </Emphasis> mikes.
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Oh. Really?
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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Mm-hmm.
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<Segment StartTime="1555.320" EndTime="1556.696" Participant="me013">
So, wha- <Emphasis> what's </Emphasis> your question?
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<Segment StartTime="1555.334" EndTime="1555.689" Participant="me011">
Yeah.
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<Segment StartTime="1555.381" EndTime="1555.989" Participant="me001">
Oh.
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Are they like
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<Segment StartTime="1556.650" EndTime="1560.148" Participant="me011">
Yeah, they're like those. Those are the only two choices right now, unfortunately.
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these, right? O_K.
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<Segment StartTime="1559.988" EndTime="1560.951" Participant="me013">
So what's your question?
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<Segment StartTime="1561.120" EndTime="1567.516" Participant="me011">
Question is, when are we <Emphasis> not </Emphasis> recording any meetings for a couple days so that I can do it and if it doesn't work, we won't impact people. <Comment Description="running out of air at the end of utterance"/>
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<Segment StartTime="1568.310" EndTime="1571.216" Participant="me013">
Well, there's a point when a bunch of us are off at Eurospeech.
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<VocalSound Description="mouth"/> So.
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<Segment StartTime="1572.433" EndTime="1573.171" Participant="me013">
Um.
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<Segment StartTime="1573.115" EndTime="1574.659" Participant="me011">
<VocalSound Description="mouth"/> So, what's SmartKom?
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<Segment StartTime="1575.205" EndTime="1578.759" Participant="mn014">
Nothing this week. Maybe n- end of next week.
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<Segment StartTime="1578.500" EndTime="1581.423" Participant="me011">
End of next week. And is E_D_U still recording?
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<Segment StartTime="1581.286" EndTime="1583.234" Participant="fe016">
They usually do Thursdays.
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I don't get a lot of advance notice, but
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it's al- always been either Mondays or Thursdays. So.
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Thursdays?
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Yeah. They - they often do it after - for a <Emphasis> while </Emphasis> they were doing it after this meeting.
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So if I did it, like, <Emphasis> tomorrow </Emphasis> that would be alright <Pause/> it sounds like? O_K.
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Oh!
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Yeah. Wednesdays, Fridays -
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So it sounds like no one n-
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Definitely Wed- Definitely Wednesday I'm not here, so I don't record anything.
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No one early next week.
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<VocalSound Description="sniff"/>
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Yeah. Let me check with <Pause/> Robert again, but I - I'm <Pause/> pretty sure that there's nothing this week.
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O_K.
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<Pronounce> O_K. </Pronounce>
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<NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
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And then I'll also re-number
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so that, uh, the mikes are in order.
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<Segment StartTime="1615.320" EndTime="1617.080" Participant="fe008">
Oh, thank you. Thank you. Mmm.
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O_K.
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<Segment StartTime="1617.363" EndTime="1619.056" Participant="me011">
<Uncertain> Should </Uncertain> help with the transcripts.
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<Segment StartTime="1620.592" EndTime="1620.849" Participant="me013">
Right. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
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They wer- so right now the channel numbers are discontiguous.
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Hmm.
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<NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
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Right.
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<Segment StartTime="1625.460" EndTime="1627.546" Participant="fe008">
Yeah. I mean, you know, it's an extra step.
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Yeah.
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O_K.
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<Segment StartTime="1629.890" EndTime="1634.204" Participant="me013">
<VocalSound Description="breath"/> <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/> So, I was just thinking maybe just go around and just brief- briefly look
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what's other things that are going on, maybe, since we don't - don't have much of a set a- set agenda and we don't have much time.
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<VocalSound Description="mouth"/>
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Uh.
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But feel free to overlap. <VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/>
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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O_K, we'll all say what we're doing at the same time.
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/> No, I mean - <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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I always get scared when <Uncertain> you do </Uncertain> these portions where you're not gonna overlap because <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> there's less data points. Sorry. <Comment Description="while laughing"/>
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<Segment StartTime="1653.510" EndTime="1656.635" Participant="me013">
<VocalSound Description="breath"/> Well, why don't we d- we - we <Emphasis> deliberately </Emphasis> pick <Emphasis> two </Emphasis> people to -
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I mean, people could, like, backchannel
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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and ask questions and stuff. <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
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<Segment StartTime="1658.830" EndTime="1659.376" Participant="me013">
<Emphasis> Yeah. </Emphasis>
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<VocalSound Description="mouth"/> <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<Segment StartTime="1659.840" EndTime="1661.879" Participant="me013">
I'll - I'll - I'll keep saying "uh-huh". Yeah.
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<Segment StartTime="1659.843" EndTime="1660.409" Participant="fe016">
O_K.
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<Segment StartTime="1661.400" EndTime="1662.250" Participant="mn017">
Mm-hmm.
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/>
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<Segment StartTime="1663.952" EndTime="1664.790" Participant="me001">
<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<Segment StartTime="1665.202" EndTime="1669.613" Participant="me013">
This is absolutely natural meetings. We have <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> absolutely no effect from our preconceptions. <Comment Description="while laughing"/>
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<Segment StartTime="1667.223" EndTime="1668.376" Participant="mn017">
So, we had -
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Right. <Comment Description="while laughing"/>
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<Segment StartTime="1669.017" EndTime="1674.260" Participant="mn017">
the - the <Emphasis> transcribers </Emphasis> <Comment Description="meaning [fe016]'s post-transcription annotators rather than transcribers"/> have trouble with your backchannel, because -
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<Segment StartTime="1673.987" EndTime="1674.809" Participant="me013">
With <Emphasis> my </Emphasis> backchannel?
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<Segment StartTime="1674.260" EndTime="1678.475" Participant="mn017">
Yeah, with <Emphasis> your </Emphasis> backchannels. Because sometimes you have this sort of -
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<Segment StartTime="1675.403" EndTime="1676.097" Participant="me013">
Uh-huh.
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<Segment StartTime="1678.850" EndTime="1680.961" Participant="mn017">
this - this "uh-huh" that you don't n-
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<Segment StartTime="1680.961" EndTime="1687.320" Participant="mn017">
So there's "uh-<Emphasis> huh </Emphasis>" and then there's "aha!". And it's not quite clear always what - what it is you mean. Yeah. <VocalSound Description="outbreath"/>
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Uh-huh.
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/>
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<Segment StartTime="1685.473" EndTime="1686.357" Participant="me011">
Which "uh-huh"?
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Which one it is? <Comment Description="completing [mn017]'s utterance"/>
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Yeah.
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But I don't think it's "aha!". It's more like "uh-<Emphasis> huh! </Emphasis>" <Pause/> rather than "uh-huh". <Comment Description="two imitated versions of &quot;uh-huh&quot;, contrasting in syllable prominence and connotation"/>
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<NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
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I'm -
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<VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/>
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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Yeah.
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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Yeah. <Comment Description="quietly"/> <VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/>
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Yeah. <Comment Description="whispered"/>
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I don't like the backchannels at all, as that's <Pause/> really a problem with the speech-nonspeech detection. So - <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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Yeah. Let's get rid of <Pronounce Pronunciation="&quot;em&quot;"> them. </Pronounce>
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/> <Uncertain> That's a - </Uncertain> <Comment Description="while laughing"/>
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Well, has anybody done anything? Come on. <Comment Description="while laughing"/> <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<Segment StartTime="1706.870" EndTime="1707.721" Participant="me013">
What are we doing?
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<Segment StartTime="1707.574" EndTime="1715.191" Participant="me011">
I mean, <Emphasis> I'll </Emphasis> start if you want. I've been, uh, most recently rewriting Transcriber in Java for no particular reason. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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Yeah.
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<NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
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<VocalSound Description="breath"/>
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Uh-huh.
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<VocalSound Description="mouth"/> Well, for <Emphasis> speed. </Emphasis>
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Uh. <Comment Description="while laughing"/>
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Well, I mean, Trans- What <Emphasis> happened </Emphasis> was that Transcriber's very slow to load.
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<Segment StartTime="1719.137" EndTime="1724.658" Participant="me011">
So when you have a big meeting it c- uh, especially on a slower machine, it can take five minutes before you can start <Emphasis> doing </Emphasis> anything.
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<VocalSound Description="breath"/>
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Mm-hmm.
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
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And so I was thinking about <Emphasis> why </Emphasis> that <Emphasis> was </Emphasis> and the data structures I would use, and I found myself unable not to sit down and code it. So I did.
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Mm-hmm.
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<Segment StartTime="1731.341" EndTime="1737.178" Participant="me011">
And so I have a <Emphasis> big </Emphasis> <Emphasis> chunk </Emphasis> of Transcriber now written in Java and it comes up, you know, in a couple of seconds. Um.
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u- Do you take - do you take feature requests? <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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Cool.
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Great.
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Great.
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<Segment StartTime="1739.130" EndTime="1742.772" Participant="fe016">
Y- y- yeah. W- we should talk to you off-line about something.
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> Well, <Uncertain> wait a minute </Uncertain>, <Emphasis> what </Emphasis> - ?
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I - It's <Emphasis> not </Emphasis> really -
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> <Uncertain> That would - th- w- </Uncertain>
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<Segment StartTime="1743.431" EndTime="1746.220" Participant="me011">
<Emphasis> probably </Emphasis> not worth doing. But we can talk about it.
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s-
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Well, actually, I think it <Emphasis> is </Emphasis> worth doing because here's the thing. We're sort of - we're starting to move from transcription to annotation.
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
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Yeah.
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Mm-hmm.
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
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<Segment StartTime="1751.711" EndTime="1756.915" Participant="mn017">
And <Pause/> the Transcriber interface is fine <Pause/> if essentially what you're doing is
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Annotating. <Comment Description="completing [mn017]'s utterance"/>
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stringing words together to p-
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<Segment StartTime="1758.712" EndTime="1759.210" Participant="me011">
Yep.
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<Segment StartTime="1759.510" EndTime="1760.356" Participant="mn017">
to make transcripts.
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> But, um, in - for instance, what <Emphasis> we're </Emphasis> doing now w- with, uh, <Emphasis> Communicator </Emphasis> data, but which we would <Emphasis> like </Emphasis> to do with <Emphasis> Meeting </Emphasis> data,
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is to actually label utterances, or words, or whatever units you want <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
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with, uh, you know, basically doing a multiple choice type of labeling.
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Mm-hmm.
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> And for <Emphasis> those </Emphasis> type of tasks, it wou- it's <Emphasis> much </Emphasis> more <Emphasis> efficient </Emphasis> to present,
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
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uh, the - th- p- present a bunch of, uh, clickable buttons or whatever and, um -
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<VocalSound Description="mouth"/> Dialogue. <Comment Description="completing [mn017]'s utterance"/> Yeah.
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Buttons. <Comment Description="completing [mn017]'s utterance"/>
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Mm-hmm. <Comment Description="very quietly"/>
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<VocalSound Description="mouth"/> But it <Emphasis> has </Emphasis> to be multi-stream. Th- they -
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In other words, the <Emphasis> beginning </Emphasis> of something could be <Emphasis> one </Emphasis> <Pause/> speaker and the <Emphasis> end </Emphasis> of that unit, like question-answer pair, could be a <Emphasis> different </Emphasis> speaker.
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That's why we can't <Pause/> just annotate the transcripts, uh, one - listening to one at a time.
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Mm-hmm.
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So - so that's why the Transcriber's nice for sort of <Emphasis> listening </Emphasis> to it, but you can't actually <Emphasis> encode, </Emphasis> um -
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Hmm. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
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Yeah.
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I un- I understand the problem. So.
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encode someth- Yeah, exactly. So.
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> And - and th- that's
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actually a good model, which is what this <Emphasis> current </Emphasis> tool that we're <Emphasis> using </Emphasis> has, is to atta- to <Pronounce> associate </Pronounce> these
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labels with, um, attributes of S_G_M_L tags.
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Mm-hmm.
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So, you know, you have, say, a tag for - I don't know - what type of utterance, whether it's a question or a statement or whatever. And then
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you have an, uh - you know, an - a <Emphasis> tag </Emphasis> attribute and the value of that encodes the choice.
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Right.
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Right.
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So what I <Emphasis> don't </Emphasis> have with it so far is it doesn't play wavefiles and it display wavefiles. I just haven't done that since
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that - that part wasn't -
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Oh, you mean <Emphasis> display </Emphasis> as in showing the waveform? O_K.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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And, uh - and then also a lot of the fancy user-interface stuff that's in Transcriber I haven't done. <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
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Mm-hmm.
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But it works.
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What's, uh, the original Transcriber <Emphasis> written </Emphasis> in?
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Tcl-T_K.
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<Emphasis> I </Emphasis> see.
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<Uncertain> So. </Uncertain>
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So.
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<VocalSound Description="mouth"/> Are you using - ?
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Which is nice and flexible but very, very slow in comparison.
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Yeah, yeah. Right.
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Are you using the - ? Oh, you - oh, you <Emphasis> are. </Emphasis> We already talked about that. The X_M_L -
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Yep, SAX.
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Reading SAX. Yeah.
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Cuz it's much faster than DOM and uses less memory.
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Right.
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Right. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
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So.
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<VocalSound Description="mouth"/> And then, uh,
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Mm-hmm.
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preparing for quals. Uh,
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<Emphasis> hopefully </Emphasis> second week of September if I can ever get Warren Sack to <Pause/> answer my emails. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> I probably shouldn't say that on the tape. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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Beep.
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> Yeah. Oh, well. I gotta remember to beep that out.
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<Emphasis> Who </Emphasis> was that?
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No- <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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So anyway. So I've been preparing for that. And, uh,
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Not answering your calls, huh? <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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actually, I wanted to
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say off-line with you about any literature <Pause/> reviews I should do beforehand.
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"War and Peace."
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"War and Peace." That's a good choice. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> Keep me busy.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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It's actually not a bad idea to say "beep" as a word because you can search the transcripts, y- you know,
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for - <Emphasis> for </Emphasis> that, to <Emphasis> find </Emphasis> these places.
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For "beep". <Emphasis> That's </Emphasis> a good idea.
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<Emphasis> No, </Emphasis> I'm s- I'm totally <Emphasis> serious. </Emphasis> To have one word, like "<Pronounce Pronunciation="&quot;beeep&quot;"> beep", </Pronounce> especially with a really long "eee" <Comment Description="center vowels of &quot;beep&quot;"/> like that.
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No, <Emphasis> absolutely. </Emphasis> I agree.
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Yeah.
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Works great.
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I'll - I'll take that role <Emphasis> anytime </Emphasis> you want. I like <Emphasis> saying </Emphasis> it. So. <VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/>
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O_K.
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Yeah. I've been doing a bunch of recognition experiments on <Pause/> meeting data with different, uh,
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segmentations - with different - different automatic segmentations, but <Pause/> it's not yet finished. It's <Pause/> work in progress.
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O_K. Any sense about how - how it does on - ?
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Yeah. For, uh - for - for the paper I w- I want to submit to A_S_R_U to - <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> to,
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uh, evaluate the quality of the speech-nonspeech detection by <Pause/> using it for speech recognition.
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> Right, but I was just asking if you had a sense yet of - of, uh, whether -
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maybe you already did this experiment, where there's this question of - of how much it hurt you or helped you to use segmented
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> Yeah, but we didn't have the exact comparison.
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versus -
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It -
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But - you know, there were -
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<Uncertain> i- i- </Uncertain>
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the experiments were based on different <Emphasis> segmentations </Emphasis> and different <Emphasis> transcripts. </Emphasis>
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Yeah.
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> So we weren't quite sure <Pronounce> which </Pronounce> - whether the difference came from different <Pause/> transcripts, for instance. And so <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> Thilo's - <VocalSound Description="outbreath"/>
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So, it hurts compared to the ideal segmentation, when you have the - the manual segmentations, where you have exact boundaries for each s- utterances.
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Sometimes there are some - some words are cut off or <Pause/> there's some segments i- are s- uh, assigned to s- to speech which there is nothing <Emphasis> in. </Emphasis> And so there are more insertions but
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<Emphasis> most </Emphasis> of the time there are more - the - the number of deletions is higher when - when you use the automatic segmentation compared to the ideal one.
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Hmm!
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And so I'm just in - in progress of,
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yeah, trying to feed the recognizer with un-segmented data and to see how much worse <Emphasis> that </Emphasis> is.
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So that - that I have <Emphasis> three </Emphasis> things. Un- yeah - un-segmented, the automatic, and the - the ideal one.
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Yeah.
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But the recognizer's putting up some resistance because it doesn't like the un-segmented data. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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Yeah.
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Uh-huh. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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Um. Yeah, I just got back <Pause/> from Chicago. So.
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Um, fishing went pretty well.
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Oh, yeah. <Emphasis> All </Emphasis> of us are banging.
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Good. Good.
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And, um, I was <Emphasis> gonna </Emphasis> post some results, you know, with, uh,
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<Emphasis> Wisconsin </Emphasis> fishing.
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With fishing. B-
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<Emphasis> Wisconsin </Emphasis> fishing. Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Uh.
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So your - so your results are about the same as Bush's, basically. His -
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You should have seen the one that got away. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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Y- who - Yeah, right. Whose result?
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<Emphasis> Bush's. </Emphasis> Yeah, you're both, you know, sort of - He's - he's coming back to the heartland and - <VocalSound Description="breath"/> Right. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> Yeah.
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Yeah, right, exactly. I did my tour of the heartland. Yeah.
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<Pronounce Pronunciation="reduced"> Did </Pronounce> you build any houses?
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Yeah. I built a few - built a few houses. Um,
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but right now I guess, uh, I'm working on <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> <Emphasis> this </Emphasis>
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paper - this ISCA paper for this workshop that Liz and Andreas and I are <Pause/> putting together. So we're just getting, uh, different results for -
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<VocalSound Description="mouth"/> Um, we fixed up <Pause/> our different, uh, transcripts with different types of, uh,
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annotations and we re- re-ran ali- re-ran alignments. And we're gonna develop a new feature database based on those alignments
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and do some trees and analysis. So I'm kind of in the middle of that.
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And
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hopefully by the twentieth, the twenty-third. <Comment Description="rising intonation"/>
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Mmm. <VocalSound Description="outbreath"/>
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Twentieth. <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
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The twentieth! <Comment Description="while laughing"/>
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Yeah. We'll have it all straightened out.
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<Pronounce Pronunciation="&quot;nn-yeah&quot;"> Yeah. </Pronounce>
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So. It's gonna be a busy week.
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Yeah.
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You know, I'll bet -
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You know, <Emphasis> Bush </Emphasis> went on this <Emphasis> European </Emphasis> trip recently and
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Hmm.
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Yeah.
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they <Emphasis> told </Emphasis> him there that they get <Emphasis> more </Emphasis> <Emphasis> vacations. </Emphasis> So he came back here and thought "oh, I - I can afford some more vacation too". <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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Beep. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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Yeah. I - I think he's b- he's been - he will have been off, like, <Emphasis> two </Emphasis> <Emphasis> months </Emphasis> out of his first <Emphasis> seven </Emphasis> <Pause/> in office. That's a pretty good deal.
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<Emphasis> Yeah. </Emphasis> It's <Emphasis> amazing. </Emphasis>
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Yeah. It's hard to keep
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concentration, you know, and the focus on the - <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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Don't even really <Emphasis> notice, </Emphasis> <Emphasis> do </Emphasis> you?
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Anyway. <Comment Description="while laughing"/> <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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Um.
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So while he's vacationing, um, we've been, uh - <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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Well basically this is like a joint effort. Uh, d- we were just -
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<Emphasis> Who </Emphasis> are you <Emphasis> talking </Emphasis> about, <Emphasis> Bush </Emphasis> or <Emphasis> Don? </Emphasis> Yeah.
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Um, <VocalSound Description="mouth"/>
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you know, f- apart from getting - preparing the - the da- the data for the, um -
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<VocalSound Description="mouth"/> for these experiments for the, um, <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> uh - for this <Emphasis> prosody </Emphasis> workshop, <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
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um, we just, um -
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we just had a phone call with Mari and her students, in fact, and <Emphasis> they </Emphasis> want to, um,
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e- m- They're bringing up their own meeting recognizer, which is based on Bill Byrne's, uh, recognizer from Johns Hopkins.
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Mm-hmm.
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Based on Hub-five, or like - like your - ?
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u- <Comment Description="uncodeable fragment with vocal squeak"/>
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Based on their Hub-five recognizer. And,
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Mm-hmm.
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Yeah.
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uh, so <Emphasis> they've </Emphasis> been getting from us the, um - <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
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you know, some support in terms of getting the latest transcripts and the - also the - actually the, <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
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Mm-hmm.
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uh, transcripts annotated with events, uh, like sentence boundaries and stuff like that.
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Mm-hmm.
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Yeah.
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> Um, because <Emphasis> one </Emphasis> of Mari's students was to - wants to do some language modeling for, uh, predicting <Emphasis> overlaps </Emphasis> and, uh, stuff like that.
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Yeah.
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Um. <VocalSound Description="outbreath"/>
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Yeah. Actually we had this ide- from the last time that they were here, that it'd be nice to have U_W do some work on <Pause/> language modeling that would be
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trying to get at the same <Pause/> detection as what <Emphasis> we </Emphasis> do <Emphasis> acoustically </Emphasis> since they can ramp up much ques- quicker in the language modeling and we don-
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Can I borrow a piece of paper? <Comment Description="whispered"/>
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Hmm.
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Thank you. <Comment Description="whispered"/>
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you know, we'll do the, uh, <Emphasis> prosodic </Emphasis> side. And so this is supposed to be a project that we could actually <Pause/> <Emphasis> integrate </Emphasis>
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the <Emphasis> posteriors </Emphasis> that they get from their <Emphasis> language </Emphasis> model for every word boundary or every <Emphasis> frame </Emphasis> boundary, and then train up the <Emphasis> classifiers. </Emphasis>
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Yeah.
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Mm-hmm. <Comment Description="very quietly"/>
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And it's - I guess it's an undergrad, <Emphasis> too, </Emphasis> that - that's going to be doing this work. So.
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Cool.
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Yeah.
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Um, on the <Emphasis> recognition </Emphasis> side, actually, um, I think the <Emphasis> main </Emphasis> person doing that is, uh, <Emphasis> Harriet </Emphasis> from - Harriet <Emphasis> Nock </Emphasis> from, uh - formerly of Cambridge.
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Yeah.
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Um, <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> and <Emphasis> apparently </Emphasis> they get reasonable results except in some portions they get very high <Emphasis> insertion </Emphasis> rates -
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even higher than <Emphasis> we </Emphasis> get with - with the, um - <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> like even, you know, on lapel mikes with, uh,
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background speech. And so they were trying to track that down, and - <Comment Description="abandoned"/> <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
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It <Emphasis> could </Emphasis> be that our recognizer's actually doing relatively well because it has a reject model for, you know, mismatched speech, essentially,
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or for unspecified speech. And, um, so -
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Oh!
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so, uh, they'll - I sent them our recognition <Emphasis> output </Emphasis> so they can sort of do a <Pause/> line-by-line comparison and see if - if they, um - <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
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you know, their insertions correspond to our rejects and stuff like that. So, um, we'll see what that, uh, leads to.
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Yeah. Other than that, uh,
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we're - Well, that's pretty m- pretty much it as far as <Emphasis> meetings </Emphasis> are concerned.
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> Yeah, I mean we're doing, uh -
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So I should mention, Dave and I have sort of been <Pause/> pushing through - thinking in <Emphasis> terms </Emphasis> of an A_S_R_U paper. But <Uncertain> I'm </Uncertain> still - <Uncertain NumSyllables="1"> @@ </Uncertain>
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<NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/> Mm-hmm. <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
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I think early next week we'll decide whether we'll -
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we'll <Emphasis> do </Emphasis> one or not. Um. But - because, you know, the results are - are <Emphasis> still </Emphasis> confusing enough that -
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<VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/> that, um, we- we gotta be convinced we understand what's going <Emphasis> on. </Emphasis> But it's <Emphasis> starting </Emphasis> to <Emphasis> look </Emphasis> like it - it's almost the <Emphasis> opposite </Emphasis> of the usual th- situation
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Hmm!
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where, um,
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you get some really nice result with, uh -
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<VocalSound Description="cough"/> with digits, say, and then you go to a large corpus and the result goes away.
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Um, we <Emphasis> had </Emphasis> what looked like a good result in digits but th- but then when we went to more <Emphasis> training </Emphasis> data that kind of went away.
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Mm-hmm.
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So, uh, the <Emphasis> digits </Emphasis> result right now is kind of <Emphasis> equivocal. </Emphasis>
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Mm-hmm.
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Um, <Emphasis> but </Emphasis> the conversational <Emphasis> speech </Emphasis> one, while not <Emphasis> huge, </Emphasis> is in sort of Hub-five or <Emphasis> Meeting </Emphasis> kind of terms, actually it's - it's - it's not <Emphasis> bad. </Emphasis> You know?
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Hmm.
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So - <VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/> So it's - it's - you know, it's like,
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after he did some adjustments, more like a percent or so that - that i- th- absolute, that it goes - <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> goes down and -
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<Emphasis> Yeah. </Emphasis> It's a P_H_<Emphasis> D. </Emphasis>
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<VocalSound Description="breath"/> <Pronounce Pronunciation="&quot;some-*times&quot;"> Sometimes. </Pronounce> Yeah.
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But is it still <Emphasis> true </Emphasis> that basically the s- speaker adaptation, um,
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sort of negates much of the advantage?
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<VocalSound Description="mouth"/> No, I'm talking about <Emphasis> with </Emphasis> the adaptation.
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<Emphasis> With </Emphasis> it.
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<Emphasis> Without </Emphasis> the adapt- <Emphasis> without </Emphasis> the adaptation is a much <Emphasis> bigger </Emphasis> effect.
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O_K.
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So it- so it's - it's very reasonable to think of as an alternative way <Pause/> of getting this kind o- kind of improvement.
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Mm-hmm.
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But I <Emphasis> think </Emphasis> what w- <Emphasis> ultimately </Emphasis> what we have to face with it is that, um - I mean, he gets <Emphasis> incredibly </Emphasis> <Emphasis> good </Emphasis> results
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if you artificially reverberate clean - you know, close - close-miked data. So I think the thing we <Emphasis> really </Emphasis> have to face is that our model
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Right.
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for what's going on is - is <Emphasis> wrong </Emphasis>
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Is it wrong?
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Right.
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> or <Emphasis> incomplete, </Emphasis> <Pause/>
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and that in <Emphasis> this </Emphasis> situation in particular there's a lot of <Emphasis> noise. </Emphasis>
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Right.
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And noise plus reverberation is not at <Emphasis> all </Emphasis> the same as just <Emphasis> reverberation. </Emphasis> So, um, uh, there's <Uncertain> that </Uncertain> one thing that <Pause/>
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<Uncertain NumSyllables="1"> @@ </Uncertain> <Comment Description="uncodeable fragment"/> been thinking of doing, is there's a whole lot of work that's been going on in noise suppression in the - in the Aurora, uh, team.
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And so, uh, they've got some software and I'm think of - of just having us integrate that <Emphasis> in, </Emphasis> uh, cuz it -
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Just combine <Uncertain> it see </Uncertain>. <Comment Description="rising"/>
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Yeah. Cuz it just - I mean, it just subtracts it out. In fact - in fact you can <Emphasis> run </Emphasis> it in sort of enhancement mode where you get speech out and - and - and, uh, then just run it through the rest of your recognizer. So -
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Mm-hmm.
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So, uh <Pause/> um.
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Yeah.
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Neat.
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So we're working on <Emphasis> that. </Emphasis>
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O_K.
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> There's some work, um, <VocalSound Description="outbreath"/>
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that -
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Do you remember this <Pause/> paper or <Emphasis> poster </Emphasis> <Comment Description="speech error correction"/> by, um, some C_M_U folks at, uh, H_L_T?
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They were talking about - and - and they s- they referred to an upcoming I_CASSP paper, I think, at the time. <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
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Some- someone in Karlsruhe, I think, um, worked on,
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<VocalSound Description="mouth"/> uh, es- you know, estimating noise from the silent regions and then,
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uh, doing some explicit - I don't know if it's something akin to parallel model combination or something like that to - to, uh,
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I mean, people have done <Emphasis> that </Emphasis> for a long time. Right?
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<Pronounce Pronunciation="&quot;rrright&quot;"> Right. </Pronounce> Anyway, uh, so I - I - I couldn't judge whether this was original or not, but -
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but it <Emphasis> seemed </Emphasis> like they got pretty good results on <Emphasis> their </Emphasis> meeting data. <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> So we might want to look <Emphasis> into </Emphasis> <Emphasis> that. </Emphasis> <VocalSound Description="outbreath"/>
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Yeah, I don- I don't remember the paper. But I mean, that - th- that's certainly one of the common techniques is to do that.
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Right.
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Right.
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Uh, and in all th- the stuff that our team is doing they certainly look at
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regions that you think are <VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/> nonspeech in order to get noise statistics. But,
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Mm-hmm.
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Right.
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uh, I mean, there's a host of thing- different things you could do. In the Aurora thing, we have - we have a <Emphasis> little </Emphasis> bit of a handicap in that they - they don't let you,
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uh, adjust the tis- <Comment Description="speech error, syllable switch"/> the statistical models. So y- you have to - you have to do everything at the feature level.
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Mm-hmm.
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> Um. But, um,
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um -
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> but there's, uh, you know, Wiener filtering and spectral subtraction which are, uh, sort of - i- can be looked at as
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m- minor modifications of one another. Um.
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> And they- they've now built up a nice piece of software that does -
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u- um -
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has this sort of general framework for a - for it so that you can adjust it to sort of an- any - any - any one of a dozen ways that people have done this kind of thing and
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Mm-hmm.
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they found a particular set of parameters they liked <Pause/> this week. And <Pause/> we're running with <Emphasis> that </Emphasis> for a while. But.
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O_K.
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So. Well, I'll just really briefly, um -
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Anything else?
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So, I've been working with Don and also - <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
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and - and Andreas on the - this paper on prosody, and what we're trying to do is predict where people -
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at - <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
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given all information up to whatever point in time you're considering, try to predict if <Emphasis> that's </Emphasis> a good <Emphasis> location </Emphasis> for someone else to jump in.
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So, that's the idea of that paper. And that's <Pause/> the <Emphasis> same </Emphasis> task that Mari, a- um, <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> a student named <Emphasis> Dustin, </Emphasis> and also <Emphasis> Sarah </Emphasis> who was at this last meeting
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will be looking into doing from the language modeling side. Maybe some kind of clu- you know, clustered class N_gram or something.
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Uh-huh.
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Um. And <Emphasis> also </Emphasis> we're - we're using a couple of the labelers who are doing <Emphasis> emotion </Emphasis> to help us, um, finalize some transcripts for this. So these undergra- undergrad students are really helping us out a lot,
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Yeah.
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under Don's supervision, actually. So that's good. So these offices are being, uh, very busy - Don's and the one across from him. <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
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Right. <Comment Description="very quietly"/>
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And then also, um, working with <Emphasis> Jeremy </Emphasis> on <Emphasis> Communicator </Emphasis> emotion labeling. And <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
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<Emphasis> most </Emphasis> of that up to a few weeks ago was just getting the <Pause/> people <Emphasis> labeling </Emphasis> these utterances to a computer for emotion and that's going pretty well now.
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What kind of emotions do you label?
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Um.
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Well, we're mostly looking for places where the person's frustrated with the system.
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So, there's just two categories, frustrated and not, or - ? No.
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> There - there are actually - that's how we started it. And we had different levels. Now we have things like "amuse". Like, "oh, you finally <Emphasis> got </Emphasis> it". And - <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
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Yeah.
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um, and "disappointed-tired". Like, "yeah, no, that's wrong again".
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Which isn't really <Emphasis> mad, </Emphasis> but, you know. So th- they gave me a lot of <Emphasis> feedback. </Emphasis> The labelers, after doing this, <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
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<Emphasis> told </Emphasis> me what they <Emphasis> wanted </Emphasis> as <Emphasis> categories. </Emphasis> <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> So. <Comment Description="while laughing"/>
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And then there's <Emphasis> jokes. </Emphasis> And - Yeah, right. Um.
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<VocalSound Description="breath"/> Yeah.
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There's not a <Emphasis> lot </Emphasis> of - enough frustration for us to really go through quickly, cuz we have to label every meeting and also things like repeats for the same information, and so forth. And I've been coordinating a <Emphasis> little </Emphasis> bit with
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Katrin at, uh, U_W who was doing <Pause/> user correction work that she presented at the - at the meeting.
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So there's some overlap there in what you m- there's a correlation between corrections and annoyance or frustration.
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Yeah.
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<VocalSound Description="mouth"/> Um, but <Emphasis> Jeremy's </Emphasis> been starting to really work on that project now from the <Emphasis> acoustic </Emphasis> side. So we have all these waveforms, and he's been <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
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with Morgan's help and, uh, Dan Ellis's, I think, looking into spectral tilt a bit, so he can talk about that.
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It's a feature we haven't used before. Um, and starting to, uh, r- r- take information from alignments and
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create a database that we can use sort of as a -
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a large feature vector or table to feed to our <Emphasis> decision </Emphasis> trees, which will try to give us back an answer from the speech <Emphasis> only </Emphasis> as <Pause/> to whether the person's frustrated or not.
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> That <Emphasis> reminds </Emphasis> me of something. We - we <Emphasis> talked </Emphasis> about something a ways back and I sort of lost <Emphasis> track </Emphasis> of it, about having a synthesizer driven with - <Comment Description="abandoned"/> <VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/>
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So.
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Yeah. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> Yeah. <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
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I haven't really <Pause/> had time to do that.
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Actually, I wanted <Pause/> to talk with you about that cuz there's a similar project at S_R_I where we're using - we want to do something like that to look at whether or not some of the p-
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Yeah.
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stylized <Emphasis> pitch </Emphasis> stuff <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> is,
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Yeah.
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um,
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sort of perceptually similar to the kinds of things that people would mark. So, I - I actually wanted to talk to you about that. So.
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Yeah.
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Maybe after Wednesday? <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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O_K. Yeah. Cuz this will be, like, after -
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> Yeah, cuz you have this A_S- A_S_R_U deadline.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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<VocalSound Description="breath"/> Right.
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O_K. Yeah. This will be after September anyway, <Uncertain> so I </Uncertain> -
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But that <Emphasis> seemed </Emphasis> like it would be fairly straight-forward, that if you take the - take the pitch from the real data,
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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feed it into the synthesizer, and then process the output with a gain box that you also had energy from the - from the real data.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. There was just no <Pause/> way to
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<VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/> Hey! We could use that in the English -
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use the energy in Festival, that was -
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We have to do the English synthesis for SmartKom. What if we make the system really <Pause/> <Emphasis> annoyed? </Emphasis>
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O_K- <Emphasis> Anyway. </Emphasis> <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> I - I should move on cuz we're running late, but I wanted to say there's one question in my mind, which maybe
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Yeah.
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Morgan can talk to Jeremy about, is how to sort of normalize spectral tilt. It's just - I'm sort of in this,
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uh, area I don't know much about and so we should talk off-line. But if you have a certain speaker
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O_K.
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Mm-hmm.
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and you wanna sort of get a bunch of data from <Emphasis> that </Emphasis> speaker but compare it, you know, <Emphasis> directly </Emphasis> on a feature to - to like a decision tree that won't
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normalize anything for you once you feed it the features, how do you sort of normalize over a particular speaker? What kinds of -
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what - <Emphasis> what </Emphasis> makes sense to do with that feature?
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Well, I'll have to hear what he's using, f- given different suggestions he's gotten. But -
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So.
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i- Yeah.
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But that's something we <Pause/> would <Pause/> be <Pause/> glad to <Pause/> have help on.
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O_K.
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So. Go ahead, Jeremy. <VocalSound Description="outbreath"/> <Comment Description="while smiling"/>
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<VocalSound Description="mouth"/> Right. So I've been looking at spectral tilt and <Pause/> different ways of <Pause/> perhaps generating it.
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And, um, I basically have three ways right now that we're looking at for, uh - we're gonna look at for features.
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Uh, <Emphasis> one </Emphasis> is just looking at, um, the first cepstral coefficient <Comment Description="rising intonation"/>
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and, uh, using <Emphasis> that. </Emphasis>
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Um, another is looking at the log ener- the difference of log energies between, um,
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the high - like a high-frequency band and a low-frequency band. And the <Emphasis> third </Emphasis> is just, um, taking a slope,
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um, of the linear fit of the spectrum <Pause/> and using <Emphasis> that. </Emphasis>
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So, those are the three - three ways I have right now for generating these spectral tilt numbers. And,
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um, hopefully soon we can look at some of the labeled stuff and look at, uh, these numbers and see -
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see which ones w- seem to be working well. And things like that.
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Um, I also recently wrote a script, um,
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that, uh, generates the <Emphasis> kappa </Emphasis> statistic, um, which is a -
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for labeler agreement. Um, so,
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Yeah.
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> <NonVocalSound Description="mike spike"/> been looking at that as well. <VocalSound Description="outbreath"/>
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> I mean, wh- what - <VocalSound Description="clears throat"/>
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specifically, what you wanna <Pronounce> do </Pronounce> is remove the - the - the - the average, uh, speaker <Pause/> <Emphasis> tilt </Emphasis> in some sense?
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> The thing i- Yeah. We - we - you wanna use spectral tilt to try to get at the s-
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n- the voice <Emphasis> quality </Emphasis> of these utterances. So you could have something like "no" versus "no!" <Comment Description="two imitated versions of &quot;no&quot; contrasting in voice quality and connotations"/> and these might <Emphasis> differ </Emphasis> in that way. <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
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But the problem is we don't <Emphasis> know </Emphasis> - <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> <Uncertain> th- </Uncertain> we don't - we don't know whether the "no" is <Emphasis> frustrated </Emphasis> or not.
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You don't <Pronounce Pronunciation="&quot;kuh-no&quot;, intentionally mispronounced to distinguish &quot;know&quot; from &quot;no&quot;"> know </Pronounce> it. Yeah. Yeah. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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So - Right. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> Exactly.
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Mmm.
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<VocalSound Description="breath"/> And then you also have the different <Emphasis> speakers. </Emphasis> And so, the sort of question is,
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<VocalSound Description="breath"/> Yeah.
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do you wanna <Emphasis> average </Emphasis> all the data together or do you - do you - ? <Comment Description="abandoned"/>
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You wanna capture the <Emphasis> change </Emphasis> in voice quality <Emphasis> within </Emphasis> a <Emphasis> speaker, </Emphasis>
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<Emphasis> without </Emphasis> having to know <Emphasis> ahead </Emphasis> of time w- which is which, cuz that would be <Emphasis> circular. </Emphasis> So,
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<VocalSound Description="breath"/> I mean,
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m- maybe - maybe this is too <Emphasis> obvious </Emphasis> to be <Emphasis> right, </Emphasis> but I mean, the - the - the - the normal thing for C_one would be to - to, uh, get rid of the mean and th- and the <Emphasis> variance. </Emphasis> Right?
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<Uncertain> u- this is </Uncertain> - <Comment Description="quietly"/>
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Does that - ? <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> The mean and <Emphasis> variance. </Emphasis> Have it be zero mean and unity <Emphasis> variance. </Emphasis> And then -
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To get rid of <Emphasis> what? </Emphasis>
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Mean and variance.
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O_K.
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<VocalSound Description="mouth"/> But do you do this, say, just in the <Emphasis> vowel </Emphasis> regions, and do you - ? <Comment Description="abandoned list"/> a- There's - there's a whole bunch of, um,
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sort of unknowns. And we can <Emphasis> try </Emphasis> all of them and just put them into the tree as features, and -
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<VocalSound Description="mouth"/> Right.
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<VocalSound Description="mouth"/> Well, the answer's <Emphasis> yeah. </Emphasis> I mean, you want - you want it for every place that's <Emphasis> voiced. </Emphasis>
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> But - but you can't do it -
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I mean you <Emphasis> can't </Emphasis> just normalize it based on the <Emphasis> utterance </Emphasis> because then you're gonna have zero <Emphasis> everywhere. </Emphasis>
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Right? So you'd have to normalize it based on <Pause/> the -
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No, ev- everything for that <Emphasis> speaker. </Emphasis>
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Yeah.
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> Yeah, O_K. But that's not really feasible because you're having a sys- you have a system, a dialogue system,
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Everything <Emphasis> up </Emphasis> to that point.
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where you only have access to the - what the speaker said before. So it'd have to be sort of a causal,
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Yeah?
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Oh, yeah. That's O_K. That - that's the sort of - w- we keep - you keep, uh, iterat- you keep updating those numbers for future utterances. Th-
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uh,
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version of <Uncertain NumSyllables="2"> @@ </Uncertain>.
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Yeah.
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<VocalSound Description="mouth"/> Or you c- u- <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
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Yeah. I mean, but - but the main - I think the main thing is that -
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That - that would work.
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the - You're right. I mean, the <Emphasis> main </Emphasis> distinction is whether it's voiced or - or - voiced or not.
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If it's - if it's - if it's silence or - or unvoiced regions, then you - you - you don't really want <Emphasis> that </Emphasis> in there, uh, if you can help it.
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Yeah.
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> But <Emphasis> actually, </Emphasis> I mean, just to first order, <Comment Description="rising intonation"/> suppose you just didn't do <Emphasis> anything </Emphasis> smart at <Emphasis> all </Emphasis> and just
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did - you know, did <Emphasis> that, </Emphasis> it wouldn't be <Emphasis> that </Emphasis> bad.
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> Because you'd get <Emphasis> some </Emphasis> number that would be skewed by - be skewed by that -
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> So you mean, you're just <Pause/> using a mean and the varian- and a variance?
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You know, uh, uh, X_- X_ - X_ - X_- X_ - X_ minus mu over sigma. Yeah. <VocalSound Description="breath"/> <Comment Description="long disfluency during overlap"/>
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You mean just a - a Z_square, like?
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Right, right. Right. O_K. So it is distributed <Pause/> in a way that you can do this. Yeah. O_K.
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<VocalSound Description="breath"/> Mmm. <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> It - it - it's - it's sort of the first-order thing to do. There's, uh, you know, uh, obviously much - much more arcane things to do and complicated things to do.
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O_K. So, that's - so - that was <Emphasis> our </Emphasis> sort of -
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But that's -
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maybe this will work, I don't <Uncertain> know </Uncertain>. <Comment Description="while laughing"/> O_K.
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th- that's the first thing to do. And then - you know, then <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
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the next thing is, "well, let's just look at the voiced regions", you know, and that would be a reasonable thing to do.
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And then if it's <Emphasis> really </Emphasis> - when you <Emphasis> look </Emphasis> at what y- i- i- i-
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Since you're looking at something that's sort of in log domain, cepstral is like log d- linearly transformed of a log domain, <Comment Description="embedded"/>
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it's probably not <Emphasis> that </Emphasis> terrible an assumption to pretend it's Gaussian anyway. And so the other things that get more - more tricky are,
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uh, to handle the fact that it's not - not really <Emphasis> Gaussian. </Emphasis> And - and y- you may - you may not really need that for this.
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Well, we probably won't get that far. Yeah.
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> Yeah. So I think
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O_K.
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that would be - that would be the obvious thing to do.
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O_K.
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Well, we're not gonna build a parametric model of the -
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o- o- of the - of the feature. Right? We're just gonna - we- we're gonna use
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Yeah.
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> No, I understand. It's just - it - it - No, it's more that - that if you felt something wasn't Gaussian and you were trying to <Pause/>
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like thresholding or something.
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normalize for some kind of, uh, <Emphasis> bias </Emphasis> of some sort, you might use a non-parametric
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<VocalSound Description="breath"/> Right, right. O_K.
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measure, like you might use a <Emphasis> median, </Emphasis> you know, and rank statistics, and all that sort of stuff. But I mean, you shouldn't bother with it if it's roughly Gaussian. Just - Yeah.
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m- Median, yeah. We could just plot - plot these for a speaker, and
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Right.
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get a bunch of histograms.
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Right.
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O_K. <Comment Description="whispered"/>
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O_K.
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Right.
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Uh, yeah.
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Thanks. <VocalSound Description="outbreath"/>
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Sure. <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
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Uh, and I already - I already said what <Pause/> <Emphasis> I </Emphasis> was doing, which is <Pause/> mostly
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trying to give advice to Dave when he - he - <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> he actually does the real <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> work on this, uh, reverberation thing. But I think it's - it's - it's a real, uh -
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it's a real learning experience for <Emphasis> both </Emphasis> of us. And - and, uh, I think it's - it's a problem <Pause/> <Emphasis> ar- </Emphasis> <Comment Description="speech error involving shifted stress"/> <Emphasis> problem </Emphasis> area that people <Emphasis> really </Emphasis> haven't
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<Emphasis> dealt </Emphasis> with that much, as we <Emphasis> know. </Emphasis> So,
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<VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> uh, w- h- he kind of did - he started off with what was
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in <Emphasis> some </Emphasis> sense sort of the first obvious thing to <Emphasis> do, </Emphasis> although <Pause/> hardly anybody had <Emphasis> done </Emphasis> it yet. And, uh, it -
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it <Emphasis> does </Emphasis> work very well under some conditions and other conditions it doesn't. And now we're understanding - trying to understand what those are.
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Mm-hmm.
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<VocalSound Description="mouth"/> It- it's - it's - it's fun.
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<VocalSound Description="breath"/> <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> Do you want to add some- anything? - to say anything? How was y- Did you catch fish, or - ?
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She just got back. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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No. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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No. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> No fish. O_K. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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No. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
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You know, when <Emphasis> Bush </Emphasis> catches fish they actually <Emphasis> put </Emphasis> a bunch of fish in the lake for him.
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/> Really s- really hungry fish.
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Oh. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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It's <Pause/> part of the budget.
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I'm - I'm not kidding. <Comment Description="while laughing"/> <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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<Emphasis> Really. </Emphasis> They just - they - they pre-stocked it with - with a - a - I'm <Emphasis> really </Emphasis> not <Emphasis> kidding. </Emphasis>
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The Secret Service is out there throwing fish into the ocean - into the lake.
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How they -
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They got, like, scuba gear on and, like, hooking <Pronounce Pronunciation="&quot;em&quot;"> them. </Pronounce>
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But they didn't <Emphasis> tell </Emphasis> her. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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Hmm.
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<VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/> "Hey, I caught one - this one - and it's already cooked!" <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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It - you know, to keep -
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It's already dead. <Comment Description="while laughing"/> <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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to keep us, uh -
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Yeah. <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> So we're <Pause/> ready to increase our federal funding.
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I think we're done.
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<VocalSound Description="mouth"/> Should we do, uh, simultaneous digits so that we actually have time for tea?
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Why - why don't we? Yeah, let's do that.
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<VocalSound Description="breath"/> O_K. <VocalSound Description="breath"/> Hmm.
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I <Emphasis> still </Emphasis> don't know if these are gonna be any good but it sure does get us out of here quicker. <Comment Description="while laughing"/> <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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Ready?
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Six five. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
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Seven eight, nine six, seven five, one one, nine four. <Comment Description="Digits"/>
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<VocalSound Description="breath"/> And you were worried we wouldn't have any overlap today.
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<VocalSound Description="laugh"/> Got <Emphasis> plenty </Emphasis> of overlap.
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And -
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And we'r-
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