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| fe016 left the meeting about half-way through. |
| She did not read digits. |
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| <Uncertain> That's </Uncertain> looks <Emphasis> strange. </Emphasis> |
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| O_K, now we're on and it seems to be working. |
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| <Segment StartTime="1.738" EndTime="3.107" Participant="fe008"> |
| Oh there we go. |
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| One two three four five six |
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| <VocalSound Description="outbreath"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="5.501" EndTime="6.683" Participant="fe008"> |
| This looks good. |
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| <Segment StartTime="5.839" EndTime="6.752" Participant="me018"> |
| That is weird. |
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| <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| It's like when it's been sitting for a long time or something. |
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| So, I mean - |
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| I don't know <Emphasis> what </Emphasis> it is. |
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| But all - all I know is that it seems like every time I |
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| am up here <Emphasis> after </Emphasis> a meeting, |
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| and I start it, |
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| <Segment StartTime="16.660" EndTime="17.600" Participant="me011"> |
| it works fine. |
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| <Segment StartTime="18.500" EndTime="21.900" Participant="me011"> |
| And if I'm up here and I start it and we're all sitting here waiting to have a <Emphasis> meeting, </Emphasis> it |
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| <Segment StartTime="21.900" EndTime="24.654" Participant="me011"> |
| gives me that <Emphasis> error </Emphasis> message and I have not yet sat down with - |
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| <Segment StartTime="25.200" EndTime="29.549" Participant="me011"> |
| been able to get that <Emphasis> error </Emphasis> message in a point where I can sit down and find out where it's occurring in the <Emphasis> code. </Emphasis> |
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| <Segment StartTime="27.993" EndTime="30.025" Participant="me018"> |
| Next time you get it maybe we should write it down. |
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| Yep, we will. <Comment Description="while laughing"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="30.629" EndTime="31.540" Participant="me013"> |
| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> Yeah. |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="30.987" EndTime="32.140" Participant="fe008"> |
| Was it a pause, or - ? |
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| <Segment StartTime="31.334" EndTime="32.410" Participant="me011"> |
| One of these days. |
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| <Segment StartTime="32.140" EndTime="33.212" Participant="fe008"> |
| O_K. Was it on "pause" |
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| or something? |
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| <Segment StartTime="33.900" EndTime="35.352" Participant="me011"> |
| No. <VocalSound Description="outbreath"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="34.177" EndTime="34.543" Participant="fe008"> |
| O_K. |
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| <Segment StartTime="35.234" EndTime="35.890" Participant="fe008"> |
| Don't know. |
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| <Segment StartTime="36.270" EndTime="37.941" Participant="me013"> |
| So uh - so the uh, |
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| the new procedural change that just got suggested, which I think is a good idea is that um, |
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| we do the digit recordings at the <Emphasis> end. </Emphasis> |
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| <Segment StartTime="44.803" EndTime="48.699" Participant="me013"> |
| And that way, if we're recording somebody else's uh meeting, |
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| and a number of the participants have to run off to some other meeting and don't have the time, |
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| <Segment StartTime="53.081" EndTime="55.347" Participant="me013"> |
| uh, then they can run off. |
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| <Segment StartTime="55.347" EndTime="57.240" Participant="me013"> |
| It'll mean we'll get somewhat fewer |
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| uh, sets of digits, but um, I think that way we'll |
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| cut into people's time, um, |
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| if someone's on strict time |
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| uh, less. |
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| So, I th- I think - I think we should start doing that. |
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| Um, |
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| <Segment StartTime="71.026" EndTime="74.812" Participant="me013"> |
| so, uh, let's see, we were having a discussion the other day, |
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| maybe we should bring that up, |
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| about uh, the nature of the data that we are collecting. |
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| uh |
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| <Uncertain NumSyllables="1"> @@ </Uncertain> |
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| <Segment StartTime="81.110" EndTime="85.710" Participant="me013"> |
| that uh, we should have a fair amount of data that is |
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| um, collected for the same meeting, |
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| so that we can, uh - |
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| <Segment StartTime="91.560" EndTime="93.678" Participant="me013"> |
| I don't know. Wh- what - what were some of the points again about that? |
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| Is it - |
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| Uh, well, O_K, I'll back up. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> Um, at the previous - at last week's meeting, <Emphasis> this </Emphasis> meeting |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="97.473" EndTime="98.255" Participant="me013"> |
| Yeah. |
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| I was griping <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| about wanting to get more data and I - I talked about this with Jane and |
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| Adam, um, and was thinking of |
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| this mostly just so that we could do research |
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| on this data |
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| <Segment StartTime="115.250" EndTime="120.957" Participant="fe016"> |
| um, since we'll have a new - this new student di- does wanna work with us, <Pause/> th- the guy that was at the last meeting. |
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| <Segment StartTime="119.314" EndTime="120.280" Participant="me018"> |
| Well, great. |
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| <Segment StartTime="121.130" EndTime="121.744" Participant="me018"> |
| Great. |
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| <Segment StartTime="121.332" EndTime="125.992" Participant="fe016"> |
| And he's already funded part-time, so we'll only be paying him for sort of for <Emphasis> half </Emphasis> of the normal part-time, |
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| <Segment StartTime="126.570" EndTime="127.078" Participant="me018"> |
| What a deal. |
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| <Segment StartTime="126.570" EndTime="127.139" Participant="fe016"> |
| uh - |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="127.490" EndTime="127.896" Participant="fe016"> |
| Yeah. |
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| <Segment StartTime="127.887" EndTime="129.542" Participant="me011"> |
| And what's he interested in, specifically? |
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| So |
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| he's - comes from a signal-processing background, but I liked him a lot cuz he's very interested in |
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| <Emphasis> higher </Emphasis> level things, like language, and |
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| <Segment StartTime="137.710" EndTime="139.950" Participant="fe016"> |
| disfluencies and all kinds of eb- |
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| <Segment StartTime="138.639" EndTime="139.367" Participant="me011"> |
| Mm-hmm. |
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| <Segment StartTime="139.950" EndTime="142.549" Participant="fe016"> |
| maybe prosody, <Pause/> so he's just getting his feet wet in that. |
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| <Segment StartTime="140.924" EndTime="141.580" Participant="me011"> |
| Great. |
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| <Segment StartTime="142.549" EndTime="145.970" Participant="fe016"> |
| Anyway, I thought O_K, maybe we should have enough data so that if he starts - |
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| he'd be starting in |
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| January, next semester |
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| <Segment StartTime="148.980" EndTime="150.719" Participant="fe016"> |
| that we'd have, you know, enough data to work with. <Comment Description="rising"/> |
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| Right. |
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| <Segment StartTime="151.740" EndTime="155.635" Participant="fe016"> |
| But, um, Jane and Adam brought up a lot of good points that |
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| just posting a note to Berkeley people to have them come down here has some problems in that you m- you need to make sure that the speakers |
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| are who you want and that the meeting type is what you want, and so forth. |
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| <Segment StartTime="167.000" EndTime="170.764" Participant="fe016"> |
| So, I thought about that and I think it's still possible, um, |
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| but I'd rather try to get more regular meetings of |
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| types that we know about, <Uncertain> and hear </Uncertain>, then sort of a |
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| mish-mosh of a bunch of one - |
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| one-time - |
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| One offs? <Comment Description="completing [fe016]'s utterance"/> |
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| Yeah, just because it would be very hard to |
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| process the data in all senses, both |
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| to get the, |
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| um - |
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| to figure out what type of meeting it is and to do any kind of higher level work on it, like |
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| well, I was talking to Morgan about |
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| things like summarization, or what's this meeting about. |
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| I mean |
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| it's very different if you have a group that's just |
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| giving a report on what they did that week, versus coming to a decision and so forth. So. |
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| Then I was um, talking to Morgan about some <Pause/> new proposed work in this area, |
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| sort of a <Emphasis> separate </Emphasis> issue from what the student would be working on |
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| where |
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| I was thinking of doing |
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| some kind of summarization of meetings or trying to find cues |
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| in both the |
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| utterances <Emphasis> and </Emphasis> in the |
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| utterance patterns, <Comment Description="rising"/> like in |
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| numbers of overlaps and amount of speech, |
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| sort of raw cues |
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| from the interaction that can be measured from |
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| the signals and from the diff- |
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| different microphones |
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| that point to |
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| sort of hot spots in the meeting, or things where stuff is going on that might be important |
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| for someone who didn't attend to <Pause/> <Emphasis> listen </Emphasis> to. |
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| And in <Emphasis> that </Emphasis> |
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| uh, regard, I thought we definitely w- will need - |
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| it'd b- it'd be nice for us to have a bunch of data |
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| from a few different domains, or a few different kinds of meetings. So this - this meeting is one of them, although I'm not sure I can participate if I - |
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| You know, I would feel very strange being <Emphasis> part </Emphasis> of a meeting that you were then analyzing later for things like summarization. |
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| Mm-hmm. |
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| Um, and then there are some others that menti- that Morgan mentioned, like the front-end meeting <Pause/> and maybe a networking <Pause/> group meeting. <Comment Description="rising"/> |
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| Right. |
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| Yep. |
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| So - |
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| Yeah, we're - we're <Emphasis> hoping </Emphasis> that they'll let us start recording regularly. So. |
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| So if that were the case then I think we'd have enough. But basically, for anything where you're trying to get |
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| Mm-hmm. |
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| a summarization of some kind of meeting - <Comment Description="speech correction"/> <Pause/> <Emphasis> meaning </Emphasis> out of the meeting, um, |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/> |
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| it would be too hard to have |
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| fifty different kinds of meetings where we didn't really |
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| Yeah. <Comment Description="quietly"/> |
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| have a good grasp on what does it mean to summarize, but - |
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| rather we should have |
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| different meetings by the same group but hopefully that have different summaries. <Comment Description="while laughing"/> |
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| And then we need a couple that - of - <Pause/> We don't wanna just have <Emphasis> one </Emphasis> group because that might be specific to that particular group, but |
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| <Uncertain NumSyllables="1"> @@ </Uncertain> |
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| S- So - |
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| three or four different kinds. |
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| Yeah, we have a lot of overlap between this meeting and the |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| <Emphasis> morning </Emphasis> meeting. |
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| See, I've never listened to the data for the front-end <Pause/> meeting. |
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| Yeah. |
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| Yeah. |
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| Yeah, we - we've only had <Emphasis> three. </Emphasis> So. |
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| O_K. |
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| But maybe that's enough. So, in general, I was thinking more data but also |
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| data where we hold some parameters |
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| constant or fairly similar, <Pause/> like a meeting about |
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| Mm-hmm. |
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| of people doing a certain kind of |
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| work where at least half the participants each time are the same. |
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| Um - |
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| Now, let - l- l- let me just |
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| give you the other side to that cuz I ca- because I - I don't disagree with that, |
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| but I think there is a complimentary piece to it too. |
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| Uh, for <Emphasis> other </Emphasis> kinds of research, |
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| particularly the <Emphasis> acoustic </Emphasis> oriented research, |
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| I actually feel the opposite need. |
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| Right. |
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| I'd like to have lots of different people. |
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| Right. |
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| As many people here a- a- and talking about the kind of thing that |
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| you were just talking about |
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| it would have uh too few people from my point of view. I'd like to have many different speakers. |
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| So, um |
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| I think I would <Emphasis> also </Emphasis> very much like us to have a fair amount of <Emphasis> really </Emphasis> random scattered meetings, of somebody coming down from campus, and - |
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| Mm-hmm. |
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| and uh, I mean, sure, if we can |
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| Mm-hmm. |
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| Right. |
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| get <Emphasis> more </Emphasis> from them, fine, but if we only get one or <Emphasis> two </Emphasis> from each group, |
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| that <Emphasis> still </Emphasis> could be useful <Emphasis> acoustically </Emphasis> just because we'd have |
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| Yeah, I definitely agree with that. Definitely. |
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| close and distant microphones with different people. |
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| Yeah. |
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| Mm-hmm. |
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| Yeah. |
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| Can I - can I say about that - that the - the issues that I think Adam and I raised were more a matter of advertising so that you get more native speakers. |
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| Because I think if you just say - an- And in particular, my suggestion was to advertise to linguistics grad students because |
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| there you'd have so- people who'd have proficiency enough in English that - |
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| Mm-hmm. |
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| that uh, it would be useful for - for purposes - You know. |
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| But you know, I think |
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| I've been - I've I - I've gathered data from undergrads at - on campus and if you just post randomly to undergrads I think you'd get <Emphasis> such </Emphasis> a mixed bag that it would be hard to know how much conversation you'd have at all. |
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| Well, you want to i- |
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| And - and the English you'd have - The language models would be really hard to build because it would not really be - it would be an <Emphasis> interlanguage </Emphasis> rather than <Pause/> than a - |
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| Well, |
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| O_K, uh, first place, I - I - I don't think we'd just want to have random people come down and talk to one another, I think |
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| O_K. |
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| there should be a meeting that has some goal and point cuz I - I think that's what we're |
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| investigating, so |
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| It has to be a - |
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| a pre-existing meeting, <Pause/> like a meeting that would otherwise happen anyway. That's I think what we - and I agree with. |
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| Yeah, |
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| Right. |
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| O_K. |
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| yeah. |
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| So I was - |
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| Yep. |
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| I was thinking more in terms of talking to professors |
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| Oh, interesting! |
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| uh, and - and - and uh, senior uh, uh, d- and |
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| Yeah. |
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| uh, doctoral students who are leading projects |
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| and offering to them |
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| Oh, I see. |
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| that they have their - hold their meeting down here. |
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| Oh, interesting! |
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| Uh, that's the first point. The second point is |
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| um |
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| I think that for some time now, going back through BeRP I think that we have had speakers that we've worked with who had non-native accents |
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| Oh, oh. I'm not saying <Emphasis> accents. </Emphasis> |
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| and I th- I think that - |
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| u- The accent's not the problem. |
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| Oh, O_K. |
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| No, it's more a matter of uh, <Emphasis> proficiency, </Emphasis> |
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| e- e- just simply <Emphasis> fluency. </Emphasis> |
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| I mean, I deal with people |
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| Yeah. |
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| on - on campus who - |
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| I think sometimes people, |
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| undergraduates um in <Emphasis> computer </Emphasis> science |
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| uh, have language skills that make, you know - that their - their fluency and writing skills |
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| are not so strong. |
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| Oh! You're not talking about foreign language at <Emphasis> all. </Emphasis> You're just talking about - |
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| Yeah. Yeah, just talking about. |
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| Well, e- I just think, but you know, it's like when you get into the graduate level, |
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| We all had the same thought. |
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| uh, no problem. |
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| I mean, I'm not saying accents. I'm say- I'm saying fluency. Well, yeah. |
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| Uh-huh. |
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| Yeah, then we're <Emphasis> completely </Emphasis> gone. It's - |
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| Mm-hmm. |
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| The - the habits are already burnt in. But - |
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| I'm just saying fluency. |
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| <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> Well, I think that, um - |
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| I think that the only thing we should say in the advertisement is that the meeting should be held in English. |
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| Yeah. |
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| And - and I think |
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| if it's a pre-existing meeting and it's held in English, <Comment Description="rising"/> |
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| I - I think it's probably O_K if a few of the people don't have |
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| uh, g- <Emphasis> particularly </Emphasis> good English skills. |
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| O_K, now can I - can I say the other aspect of this from my perspective which is that |
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| um, there's - there's this - this issue, you have a corpus out there, it should be used for - for multiple things cuz it's so expensive to put together. |
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| Right. |
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| Right. |
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| And if people want to approach - |
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| Um, i- so I know <Pause/> e- e- <Pause/> |
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| You know this - The idea of computational linguistics and probabilistic grammars and all may not be the focus of this group, |
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| Uh-huh. |
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| but the idea of language models, which are fund- you know |
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| generally speaking uh, you know, t- t- terms of like the amount of benefit per dollar spent |
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| Mm-hmm. |
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| or an hour invested in preparing the data, |
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| Mm-hmm. |
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| if you have a choice between people who are |
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| pr- more proficient in - <NonVocalSound Description="tap"/> |
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| um, |
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| i- more fluent, more - more |
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| close to being academic English, then it would seem to me to be a <Emphasis> good </Emphasis> thing. |
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| I guess - I- maybe - Hmm. |
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| Because otherwise y- you don't have the ability to have - |
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| I- |
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| Uh, so if - if you have a bunch of idiolects that's the worst possible case. If you have people who are using English as a - as an interlanguage because they - they don't - |
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| uh, they can't speak in their <Emphasis> native </Emphasis> languages and - |
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| but their interlanguage isn't |
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| Uh-huh. |
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| really a match to any existing, |
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| uh, language model, |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> Yeah. Yeah. |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> this is the <Emphasis> worst </Emphasis> case scenario. |
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| Well, that's pretty much what you're going to have in the <Emphasis> networking </Emphasis> group. |
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| And - |
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| Right. |
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| because - because they - most - the network group is almost entirely Germans and <Emphasis> Spaniards. </Emphasis> |
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| Well I- |
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| Oh. |
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| But the thing is, I think that these people are of high enough level in their - in their language proficiency that - <Pause/> And I'm not objecting to <Emphasis> accents. </Emphasis> <Pause/> I - I'm - I'm just thinking that we have to think at a - at a higher level view, could we have a language model, a - a grammar - |
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| I see. |
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| O_K. |
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| a <Emphasis> grammar, </Emphasis> basically, |
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| Uh-huh. |
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| that um, wo- would be |
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| a - a <Emphasis> possibility. </Emphasis> So y- so if you wanted to bring in a model like Dan Jurafsky's model, an- |
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| and do some top-down stuff, it - to help th- the bottom-up and merge the things or whatever, |
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| Mm-hmm. |
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| uh, it seems like |
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| um, I don't see that there's an argument - |
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| I'm - I - what I think is that why not have the corpus, since it's so expensive to put together, uh, useful for the widest |
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| Mm-hmm. |
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| range of - |
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| of central corp- |
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| things that people generally <Emphasis> use </Emphasis> corpora for and which are, you know, used in computational linguistics. |
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| That's - that's my point. |
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| O_K. |
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| Which - which includes both top-down and bottom-up. |
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| It's difficult. |
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| Yeah. |
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| O_K, well, i- i- let's - let's see what we can get. |
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| I mean, it - it - I think that if we're aiming at - at uh, groups of graduate students and professors and so forth who are talking about things together, |
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| Yes, that's fine. |
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| and it's from the Berkeley campus, probably most of it |
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| That's fine. |
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| <Segment StartTime="666.090" EndTime="668.740" Participant="fe008"> |
| Exactly. And my point in m- in my note to Liz was |
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| will be O_K, but - |
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| O_K. |
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| I think that undergrads are an iff- iffy population. |
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| I definitely agree with that, I mean, for this purpose. |
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| O_K. |
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| O_K. |
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| Well, not to mention the fact that I would be |
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| Grads and professors, fine. |
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| Yeah. |
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| Yeah. |
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| hesitant certainly to take anyone under eighteen, probably even an- anyone under twenty-one. |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| So. |
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| Oh, you age-ist! |
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| What's that? |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| Age-ist. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="684.227" EndTime="687.428" Participant="me011"> |
| Well, age-ist. <Comment Description="humor"/> The "<Emphasis> eighteen </Emphasis>" is because of the consent form. |
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| <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> Yeah. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> "Age-ist". <Comment Description="while laughing"/> |
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| Right, |
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| We'd hafta get - find their parent to sign for them. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
| </Segment> |
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| Yeah. |
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| Yeah. |
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| Yes. |
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| Yeah, that's true. |
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| Yeah. |
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| So. |
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| I have a - uh, um, question. <Pause/> Well, Morgan, you were mentioning that Mari may not |
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| use the k- equipment from I_B_M |
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| if they found something else, cuz |
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| They're - they're - yeah, they're d- they're uh - |
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| assessing whether they should do that or y- do something else, |
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| <Uncertain> there's a - </Uncertain> |
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| hopefully over the next few weeks. |
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| Cuz I mean, one remote possibility is that |
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| if we st- if we inherited that equipment, if she weren't using it, could we set up a room in the linguistics department? |
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| And - and |
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| I mean, there - there may be a lot more - or - or in psych, or in comp- wherever, in another building |
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| where we could |
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| um, record people there. I think we'd have a better chance of - |
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| I think we'd need a real motivated |
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| partner to do that. We'd need to find someone on campus who was interested in this. |
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| Right, but - |
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| Right. |
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| <Segment StartTime="736.570" EndTime="739.727" Participant="fe016"> |
| But if there were such a - I mean it's a remote possibility, then |
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| So. |
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| <Segment StartTime="739.990" EndTime="746.463" Participant="fe016"> |
| um, you know, one of <Emphasis> us </Emphasis> could you know, go up there and record the meeting or something rather than bring all of them down here. So it's just a |
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| Yep. |
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| Well, the other thing - |
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| just a thought if they end up not using the - the hardware. |
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| <VocalSound Description="loud breath"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="748.744" EndTime="756.009" Participant="me013"> |
| Yeah, I mean the other thing that I was <Emphasis> hoping </Emphasis> to do in the <Emphasis> first </Emphasis> place was to turn it into some kind of portable thing so you could wheel it around. Uh. |
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| <Segment StartTime="753.608" EndTime="754.048" Participant="me011"> |
| Right. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="756.815" EndTime="757.248" Participant="me013"> |
| But. |
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| Um, |
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| and - |
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| Well, I know that space is really scarce on - at least in C_S. |
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| Uh - |
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| <Segment StartTime="762.930" EndTime="766.626" Participant="me011"> |
| You know, to - to actually find a room that we could use regularly might actually be very difficult. |
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| <Segment StartTime="765.753" EndTime="766.531" Participant="me013"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="765.941" EndTime="769.570" Participant="fe016"> |
| But you may not need a <Emphasis> separate </Emphasis> room, you know, the idea is, if they have a <Emphasis> meeting </Emphasis> room |
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| <Segment StartTime="767.496" EndTime="769.541" Participant="me011"> |
| That's true. True. |
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| <Segment StartTime="767.721" EndTime="768.377" Participant="me013"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="769.956" EndTime="770.412" Participant="fe016"> |
| and |
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| they can guarantee that the equipment will be safe and so forth, and if one of us is up there once a week to record the meeting or something - |
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| <Segment StartTime="772.908" EndTime="773.530" Participant="me011"> |
| Mm-hmm. |
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| <Segment StartTime="775.903" EndTime="776.416" Participant="me011"> |
| Yep. |
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| Well, maybe John would let us put it into the phonology lab or something. You know. |
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| Huh. |
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| Yep. |
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| I - I think it's not out of the question. Um. |
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| Yeah. |
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| Yeah, I think it would be interesting because then we could regularly get another meeting. |
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| So. |
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| Yeah. |
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| another |
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| <Emphasis> type </Emphasis> of meeting. |
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| Right. |
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| <Segment StartTime="788.380" EndTime="792.200" Participant="mn005"> |
| But I - I - I think you need, uh, another portable <Uncertain> thing </Uncertain> |
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| Right. |
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| a- another portable equipment to - to do, eh, more e- easier the recording process, eh, <Emphasis> out </Emphasis> from ICSI. |
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| <Segment StartTime="794.222" EndTime="795.085" Participant="me011"> |
| Hmm. |
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| <Segment StartTime="799.801" EndTime="800.454" Participant="me013"> |
| Yeah. |
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| Yeah. |
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| Eh <Uncertain> and </Uncertain> <Emphasis> probably. </Emphasis> I don't know. Eh, if you - you want to - to record, eh, a seminar or a class, eh, in the university, you - you need - |
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| Right. |
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| Yeah. |
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| <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> |
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| It- it would be eh eh very difficult to - to put, <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| eh, a lot of, eh, head phones eh in different people when |
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| <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> |
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| Yeah, but - |
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| you have to - to record only with, eh, this kind of, eh, d- device. |
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| I think if we - if we wanna just record with |
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| the tabletop microphones, that's easy. |
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| Oh- yeah. |
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| <Segment StartTime="829.991" EndTime="830.632" Participant="mn005"> |
| Ye- Yeah, yeah. |
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| Right? That's <Emphasis> very </Emphasis> easy, but that's not the corpus that we're collecting. |
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| Yeah. |
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| <Segment StartTime="833.624" EndTime="838.054" Participant="me013"> |
| Actually, that's a int- that raises an interesting point that came up in our discussion that's maybe worth repeating. |
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| <Segment StartTime="838.054" EndTime="842.860" Participant="me013"> |
| We realized that, um, when we were talking about this that, O_K, there's these different things that we want to do with it. |
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| <Segment StartTime="842.860" EndTime="853.870" Participant="me013"> |
| So, um, it's true that we wanna be selective in some ways, uh, the way that you were speaking about with, uh, not having an interlingua and uh, these other issues. |
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| <Segment StartTime="853.870" EndTime="859.361" Participant="me013"> |
| But on the other hand, it's not necessarily true that we need <Emphasis> all </Emphasis> of the corpus to satisfy <Emphasis> all </Emphasis> of it. |
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| So, a- a- as per the example that we wanna have a fair amount that's done with a small n- recorded with a small, uh, typ- number of types of meetings <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="867.460" EndTime="873.351" Participant="me013"> |
| But we can also have another part that's, uh, just one or two meetings of each of a - of a range of them and that's O_K too. |
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| Uh, |
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| i- |
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| We realized in discussion that the other thing is, |
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| what about this business of distant and close microphones? |
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| I mean, we really wanna have a substantial amount recorded this way, that's why we <Emphasis> did </Emphasis> it. |
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| <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="885.835" EndTime="886.977" Participant="me013"> |
| But <Pause/> what about - |
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| For th- for these issues of summarization, a lot of these higher level things <Emphasis> you </Emphasis> don't <Emphasis> really </Emphasis> <Emphasis> need </Emphasis> the distant microphone. |
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| Right, I mean, I c- I think there's - |
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| You <Emphasis> actually </Emphasis> <Emphasis> don't. </Emphasis> |
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| And you don't really need the <Emphasis> close </Emphasis> microphone, you mean. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="895.028" EndTime="895.522" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="896.187" EndTime="902.549" Participant="fe016"> |
| Yea- yeah yeah, you actually don't really even need <Emphasis> any </Emphasis> fancy microphone. <Pause/> You can use found data. |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| Which one did you mean? |
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| You d- |
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| You don't ne- it doesn't - you just need <Emphasis> some </Emphasis> microphone, <Emphasis> somewhere. </Emphasis> |
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| <Segment StartTime="899.618" EndTime="900.921" Participant="me011"> |
| Ye- Yeah. Yep. |
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| Yeah. |
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| Tape recorder. |
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| <Segment StartTime="901.503" EndTime="902.242" Participant="fe008"> |
| Oh. |
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| Yeah. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="902.087" EndTime="902.866" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> You need <Emphasis> some </Emphasis> microphone, but I mean - <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| <Uncertain NumSyllables="1"> @@ </Uncertain> You - you <Emphasis> can. </Emphasis> You can use - |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="904.363" EndTime="905.298" Participant="me011"> |
| Mm-hmm. |
| </Segment> |
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| Um, |
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| <Segment StartTime="905.632" EndTime="909.325" Participant="fe016"> |
| but I think that any <Pause/> data that we spend a lot of effort <NonVocalSound Description="click"/> to collect, |
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| <Segment StartTime="906.685" EndTime="907.431" Participant="me013"> |
| Yeah. |
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| <Segment StartTime="909.325" EndTime="917.150" Participant="fe016"> |
| you know, each person who's interested in - I mean, we have a cou- we have a bunch of different, um, slants and perspectives on what it's useful for, |
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| <Segment StartTime="917.150" EndTime="919.170" Participant="fe016"> |
| um, they need to be |
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| taking charge of making sure they're getting enough of the kind of data that they want. |
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| <Segment StartTime="922.578" EndTime="923.093" Participant="me013"> |
| Right. |
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| And - |
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| So in my case, um, |
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| I think there w- |
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| <Segment StartTime="926.610" EndTime="930.088" Participant="fe016"> |
| there is enough data for some kinds of projects and not enough for others. <Pause/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="928.758" EndTime="930.695" Participant="me011"> |
| Not enough for others, right. <Comment Description="completing [fe016]'s utterance"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="930.088" EndTime="932.690" Participant="fe016"> |
| And so <NonVocalSound Description="click"/> I'm looking and thinking, "Well I'd be <Emphasis> glad </Emphasis> to |
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| walk over and record people and so <NonVocalSound Description="click"/> forth if it's - |
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| to help th- in my interest." |
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| <Segment StartTime="936.150" EndTime="936.940" Participant="me011"> |
| Mm-hmm. |
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| <Segment StartTime="936.844" EndTime="939.458" Participant="fe016"> |
| And other people need to do that for themselves, uh, h- |
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| Right. So that - |
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| <Segment StartTime="939.458" EndTime="942.036" Participant="fe016"> |
| or at least discuss it so that we can find some optimal - <Comment Description="abandoned as clear"/> |
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| Yeah. |
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| <Segment StartTime="942.220" EndTime="950.000" Participant="me013"> |
| But I think that - I'm raising that cuz I think it's relevant <Emphasis> exactly </Emphasis> for this idea up there that if you think about, "Well, gee, we have this really complicated setup to do," well maybe you <Emphasis> don't. </Emphasis> |
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| Maybe if - if - If really all you want is to have a - a - a recording that's good enough to get a - <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> |
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| Yeah. For some of it. |
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| Right. |
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| uh, a transcription from later, |
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| you just need to grab a tape recorder and go up and make a recording. |
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| I mean, we - we could have a fairly - We could just get a DAT machine and - |
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| Yep. |
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| Well, I agree with <NonVocalSound Description="click"/> Jane, though, on the other hand that - |
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| Yeah. |
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| So that might be true, you may say for instance, summarization, or something that |
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| sounds very language oriented. You may say well, |
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| "Oh yeah, you just do that from transcripts of a radio show." I mean, you don't even need the speech signal. <Pause/> <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> <Emphasis> But </Emphasis> |
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| Right. |
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| what you - what I was thinking is long term what would be neat is |
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| to be able to pick up on |
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| um - |
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| Suppose you just had a distant microphone there and you really wanted to |
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| be able to <Emphasis> determine </Emphasis> this. There's lots of cues you're not gonna have. |
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| Right. |
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| So |
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| Yeah. |
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| Yeah. |
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| I <Pause/> <Emphasis> do </Emphasis> think that long term you should always try to |
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| satisfy the greatest number of - |
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| of interests and have this parallel information, which is really what makes this |
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| corpus powerful. |
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| Special? <Comment Description="completing [fe016]'s utterance"/> |
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| I - I - |
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| Yep. |
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| Otherwise, you know, lots of other sites can propose - |
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| I - I - I agree. Uh |
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| individual studies, so - |
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| but I - I think that |
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| the uh <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> i- |
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| We can't really underestimate the difficulty - |
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| <Emphasis> shouldn't </Emphasis> really u- underestimate the difficulty of getting a setup like this up. |
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| Yep. |
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| And so, - uh it took quite a while to get that together and to say, "Oh, we'll just <Emphasis> do </Emphasis> it up there," - |
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| O_K. |
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| If you're talking about something <Emphasis> simple, </Emphasis> where you throw away a lot of these dimensions, then you can do that right away. |
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| Talking about something that has all of these different facets that we have here, |
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| <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="1030.102" EndTime="1033.910" Participant="me013"> |
| it <Emphasis> won't </Emphasis> happen quickly, it won't be easy, and there's all sorts of issues about th- you know |
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| <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> |
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| keeping the equipment safe, or else hauling it around, and all sorts of o- |
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| So |
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| then maybe we should <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/> <Pause/> |
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| <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> |
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| try to bring people <Emphasis> here. </Emphasis> <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/> |
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| I think the <Emphasis> first </Emphasis> priority should be to pry <Comment Description="speech error"/> to get - try to get people to come here. |
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| Here. <Comment Description="completing [fe016]'s utterance"/> |
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| I mean, that's that's - <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/> |
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| O_K, <Uncertain> so that's </Uncertain> |
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| We're set up for it. |
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| Mm-hmm. |
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| <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> |
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| O_K. |
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| The room is - is really, uh, underused. |
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| Right. |
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| Uh - |
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| I thought the free lunch idea was a <Emphasis> great </Emphasis> idea. |
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| <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="1050.247" EndTime="1051.261" Participant="me011"> |
| Yeah, I thought so too. |
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| Yeah, I - And I think we can get people to come here, that - |
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| Free lunch is good. |
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| <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> <Comment Description="as if to speak"/> |
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| Yeah. |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
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| But the issue is you definitely wanna make sure that the kind of group you're getting is the right group so that you don't waste a lot of |
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| your time <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/> and the overhead in bringing people down. |
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| Mm-hmm. |
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| No <Emphasis> crunchy </Emphasis> food. |
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| Yeah. |
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| So - <Comment Description="while laughing and breathing"/> |
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| Yeah. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| Well, it would be <Pause/> lunch afterwards. Right. |
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| Well, I was thinking, lunch after. |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| And they'd have to do their digits or they don't get dessert. |
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| Yeah, they have to do their digits or they don't <Comment Description="while laughing"/> get - they don't <Comment Description="while laughing"/> get their food. |
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| Yep. |
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| Yeah. |
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| Yeah <Comment Description="while smiling"/> |
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| Um, I had a - I spoke with some people up at Haas Business School who volunteered. |
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| Should I pursue that? |
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| Oh, definitely, yeah. |
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| Yeah. |
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| Yeah. |
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| So. They - they originally - |
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| They've decided not to do - go into speech. |
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| So I'm not sure whether they'll still be so willing to volunteer, but I'll send an email and ask. I'll tell them about the free lunch. And they'll say there's no such thing. <Comment Description="humor"/> |
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| Tell them about the free lunch. |
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| Yeah. |
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| Yeah. |
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| So. <Comment Description="while smiling"/> |
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| I'd <Emphasis> love </Emphasis> to get people that are not linguists or engineers, |
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| Yeah. |
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| Right. |
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| cuz these are both weird - |
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| Yeah. |
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| The - the - |
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| well, I know, I shouldn't <Emphasis> say </Emphasis> that. <Comment Description="whispered"/> |
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| That's alright. No, the- they - they're <Emphasis> very </Emphasis> weird. |
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| We need a wider sampling. <Comment Description="exaggerated intonation to overshadow previous statement for humorous effect"/> |
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| Uh, the - the - |
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| The o- the o- the other - |
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| The other thing is, |
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| uh, that we - we talked about is give to them - uh, burn an extra C_D-ROM. |
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| Yep. |
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| and give them - So if they want a - <NonVocalSound Description="noise"/> basically and audio record of their - |
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| Let them have their meeting. |
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| Well, <Emphasis> I </Emphasis> thought that was - |
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| I thought he meant, "Give them a music C_D," like they g- |
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| Oh. <Comment Description="while laughing"/> |
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| Then he said a C_D of the - of their speech and I guess it depends of what kind of audience you're talking to, but - |
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| You know, I personally <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/> would not want a <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/> C_D <Comment Description="while laughing"/> of my meeting, but |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| Mmm. |
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| Of the meeting? |
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| maybe - yeah, <Pause/> maybe you're right. <Comment Description="faster tempo on last part"/> |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| If you're having some planning meeting of some sort and uh you'd like - |
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| Oh, that's a good idea. |
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| Right. |
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| It'd be fun. |
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| Right. |
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| Right. |
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| Yeah. |
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| I think it would just be fun, you know, if nothing else, you know. |
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| Yeah. |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
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| <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="1138.550" EndTime="1139.160" Participant="me013"> |
| But it als- |
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| It's a novelty item. |
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| Right. |
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| <Segment StartTime="1139.658" EndTime="1146.190" Participant="me013"> |
| It - it - it also I think builds up towards the <Emphasis> goal. </Emphasis> We're saying, "Look, you know, you're gonna get this. Is- is- isn't that neat. Then you're gonna go home with it. It's actually p- |
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| <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> <VocalSound Description="clears throat"/> |
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| It's probably gonna be pretty useless to you, <Comment Description="while laughing"/> |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| Yep. |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="1148.288" EndTime="1151.630" Participant="me013"> |
| but you'll ge- appreciate, you know, where it's useful and where it's useless, |
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| Right. |
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| and then, we're gonna move this technology, so it'll become <Emphasis> useful. </Emphasis>" |
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| So. |
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| No, I think that's a great idea, actually. But we might need a little more to incentivize them, <Comment Description="while laughing"/> that's all. |
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| <VocalSound Description="sniff"/> |
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| Yeah. |
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| <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> |
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| What if you could tell them that you'll give them the - the transcripts when they come back? |
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| Alth- <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
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| Oh, yeah. |
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| <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> Yeah. <Comment Description="size of inbreath suggests plan for longer turn than this"/> |
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| Oh yeah. |
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| I mean, <Emphasis> anyone </Emphasis> can have the <Emphasis> transcripts. </Emphasis> So. |
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| Well, <Emphasis> that's </Emphasis> interesting. |
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| I hav- I have to uh raise a little eensy-weensy concern about doing th- giving them the C_D immediately, |
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| I thought we could point that out. |
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| because of these issues of, you know, <Emphasis> this </Emphasis> kind of stuff, <Comment Description="gesturing to the consent forms"/> |
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| where maybe - |
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| <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> |
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| <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> |
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| You know? |
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| <Segment StartTime="1174.158" EndTime="1174.727" Participant="me013"> |
| Good point. |
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| So. |
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| <Segment StartTime="1175.060" EndTime="1177.100" Participant="me013"> |
| That's a very good point. So we can - so we can - |
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| <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="1175.705" EndTime="1178.155" Participant="fe008"> |
| We could burn it after it's been cleared with the transcript stage. |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="1178.463" EndTime="1179.267" Participant="me013"> |
| r- Right. |
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| <Segment StartTime="1178.670" EndTime="1180.739" Participant="fe008"> |
| And then they - they get a C_D, but just not the same day. |
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| <Segment StartTime="1179.108" EndTime="1180.699" Participant="fe016"> |
| Oh, right. |
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| <Segment StartTime="1181.300" EndTime="1184.972" Participant="fe016"> |
| If - It should be the same C_D-ROM that we distribute publically, right? |
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| Yeah, that's right. |
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| That's a good point. |
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| <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> |
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| <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> |
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| Right, it can't be the internal one. |
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| Otherwise they're not <Emphasis> allowed </Emphasis> to |
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| Although it's - |
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| <Emphasis> There </Emphasis> we go. Oh, I <Emphasis> like </Emphasis> that. |
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| That's right. |
| </Segment> |
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| <Emphasis> play </Emphasis> it for anyone. |
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| Well put. Well put. |
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| <Segment StartTime="1188.740" EndTime="1190.387" Participant="fe008"> |
| So, after the transcript screening phase. |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
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| Yeah, that's true. |
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| Things have been weeded out. |
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| Otherwise we'd need <Emphasis> two </Emphasis> lawyer stages. |
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| Yeah, that's right, say <Comment Description="while laughing"/> |
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| Yeah. |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| "Yeah, well, I got this C_D, and, Your Honor, I -" |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| That's a good point. |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="1201.860" EndTime="1204.058" Participant="me013"> |
| Yeah so that's - so let's start with Haas, and |
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| Sorry to have to - <NonVocalSound Description="mike spike"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="1204.058" EndTime="1204.398" Participant="me013"> |
| Yeah. |
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| Sorry I have to <Pause/> leave. |
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| <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> |
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| I will be here full-time next week. |
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| <Segment StartTime="1205.560" EndTime="1206.065" Participant="me013"> |
| Oh, that's fine. |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| O_K, see you. |
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| <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/> <Comment Description="[fe016] takes microphone off and leaves"/> |
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| O_K. |
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| No. |
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| <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/> |
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| Bye. <Comment Description="whispered"/> |
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| That's alright. |
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| <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/> |
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| See you. |
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| O_K. |
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| See you. |
| </Segment> |
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| So, uh - |
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| Let's see. So that was that topic, |
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| and |
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| <NonVocalSound Description="door closes"/> |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="1222.650" EndTime="1225.342" Participant="me013"> |
| then um, I guess another topic would be |
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| where are we in the whole disk resources <Pause/> question for - |
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| <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> |
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| We are slowly slowly getting to the point where we have uh enough sp- room to record meetings. |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
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| <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| So I uh did a bunch of archiving, and |
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| still doing a bunch of archiving, I - I'm in the midst of doing |
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| the P_files from uh, |
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| <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> |
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| Broadcast News. <Comment Description="rising"/> |
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| <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> |
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| and it took eleven hours <Comment Description="lengthened for emphasis"/> |
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| <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> |
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| Eleven? |
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| to do - to uh copy it. <Comment Description="rising"/> |
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| And it'll take <Emphasis> another </Emphasis> eleven to do the clone. |
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| Where did you copy it to? |
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| <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> |
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| Well, it's <Emphasis> Abbott. </Emphasis> |
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| It's Abbott, so it just - |
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| But it's - it's a lot of data. <Comment Description="while laughing"/> |
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| Sk- |
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| It's copying from one place on Abbott to another place on Abbott? |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| Tape. |
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| Tape? |
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| I did an archive. |
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| Oh! I'm sorry. |
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| Oh, on the tape. Ah! |
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| Oh. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1260.919" EndTime="1263.627" Participant="me011"> |
| So I'm archiving it, and then I'm gonna delete the files. |
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| <Segment StartTime="1263.627" EndTime="1264.600" Participant="me011"> |
| So that will give us |
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| Eleven hours? |
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| Wow! |
| </Segment> |
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| ten gigabytes of free space. <Comment Description="while laughing"/> |
| </Segment> |
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| Oh. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1265.951" EndTime="1266.484" Participant="fe008"> |
| <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1266.484" EndTime="1269.051" Participant="fe008"> |
| Yeah, the archiving m- <Pause/> program does take a long time. |
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| <Segment StartTime="1267.955" EndTime="1268.349" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1267.957" EndTime="1268.696" Participant="me011"> |
| And - and - |
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| Yep. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1269.552" EndTime="1270.168" Participant="me011"> |
| And so one- |
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| <Segment StartTime="1269.573" EndTime="1270.178" Participant="fe008"> |
| Mm-hmm. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1270.423" EndTime="1272.083" Participant="me011"> |
| That - that will be done, like, |
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| in about two hours. And so uh, |
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| <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1274.930" EndTime="1278.359" Participant="me011"> |
| at that point we'll be able to record five more meetings. So. <Comment Description="while laughing"/> |
| </Segment> |
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| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
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| <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> |
| </Segment> |
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| One thing - The <Emphasis> good </Emphasis> news about that - that is that once - once it's archived, it's pretty quick to get back. I mean, it - it - it - The other direction is fast, |
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| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
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| Is it? |
| </Segment> |
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| Right. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1284.169" EndTime="1285.734" Participant="fe008"> |
| but this direction is really slow. |
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| Hmm. |
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| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1285.599" EndTime="1288.546" Participant="me011"> |
| Well, especially because I'm generating a clone, also. |
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| <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> |
| </Segment> |
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| Yeah, O_K. |
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| So. |
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| <Segment StartTime="1288.752" EndTime="1289.158" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1289.163" EndTime="1290.087" Participant="me011"> |
| And that takes a while. |
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| Generating a clone? |
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| Yeah, that's a good point. |
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| <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1290.842" EndTime="1291.579" Participant="me011"> |
| Two copies. |
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| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
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| One offsite, one onsite. |
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| Oh! |
| </Segment> |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1293.568" EndTime="1294.010" Participant="me018"> |
| Oh! |
| </Segment> |
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| <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1294.010" EndTime="1294.198" Participant="me018"> |
| Hunh! |
| </Segment> |
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| <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1294.492" EndTime="1297.316" Participant="fe008"> |
| Now, what will uh - Is the plan to g- <Pause/> to - |
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| <Segment StartTime="1294.572" EndTime="1294.816" Participant="me013"> |
| S- <Comment Description="about to speak, then abandons"/> |
| </Segment> |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1297.560" EndTime="1298.454" Participant="fe008"> |
| So <Pause/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1298.454" EndTime="1300.774" Participant="fe008"> |
| stuff will be <Emphasis> saved, </Emphasis> it's just that you're relocating it? |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1300.774" EndTime="1302.978" Participant="fe008"> |
| I mean, so we're gonna get more disk space? Or did I - ? |
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| <Segment StartTime="1302.978" EndTime="1309.152" Participant="me011"> |
| No, the - the - these are the P_files from Broadcast News, which are <Pronounce> regeneratable </Pronounce> - <Pronounce Pronunciation="exaggerated articulation"> regeneratable </Pronounce> |
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| <Segment StartTime="1306.177" EndTime="1306.627" Participant="fe008"> |
| O_K. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1307.709" EndTime="1308.374" Participant="fe008"> |
| Oh, good. |
| </Segment> |
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| <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1309.213" EndTime="1309.599" Participant="fe008"> |
| I see. |
| </Segment> |
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| um, if we really need to, but we had a <Emphasis> lot </Emphasis> of them. |
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| O_K. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1312.337" EndTime="1314.569" Participant="me011"> |
| And - for the full, uh, hundred forty hour |
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| sets. |
| </Segment> |
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| <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1315.913" EndTime="1316.629" Participant="me013"> |
| <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> <Comment Description="as if to speak"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1316.150" EndTime="1319.162" Participant="me011"> |
| And so they - they were two gigabytes per file and we had |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1319.527" EndTime="1319.829" Participant="fe008"> |
| Wow. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1319.703" EndTime="1319.957" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1320.062" EndTime="1321.587" Participant="me011"> |
| <Emphasis> six </Emphasis> of them or something. <Comment Description="while laughing"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1320.557" EndTime="1320.995" Participant="fe008"> |
| Wow. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1321.019" EndTime="1321.654" Participant="me013"> |
| <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1321.654" EndTime="1327.008" Participant="me013"> |
| W- w- we <Emphasis> are </Emphasis> getting more space. We <Emphasis> are </Emphasis> getting, uh, another disk rack and - and four thirty-six gigabyte disks. |
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| <Segment StartTime="1327.696" EndTime="1331.360" Participant="me013"> |
| Uh <Pause/> so <Pause/> uh <Pause/> but |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1327.760" EndTime="1328.624" Participant="fe008"> |
| Wonderful. <Comment Description="whispered"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1331.360" EndTime="1333.790" Participant="me013"> |
| that's not gonna happen instantaneously. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1332.895" EndTime="1333.838" Participant="me011"> |
| Or maybe six. |
| </Segment> |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1334.560" EndTime="1335.583" Participant="me013"> |
| Or maybe six? |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1335.251" EndTime="1338.614" Participant="me011"> |
| The SUN, ha- uh, takes more disks than the Andatico one did. |
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| <Segment StartTime="1338.918" EndTime="1339.952" Participant="me013"> |
| How many - |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1339.349" EndTime="1340.760" Participant="me011"> |
| The SUN <Emphasis> rack </Emphasis> takes - <Comment Description="self correction of preceding utterance, abandoned as adequate"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1340.181" EndTime="1340.820" Participant="me013"> |
| How much - |
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| <Segment StartTime="1342.793" EndTime="1343.091" Participant="me011"> |
| Th- |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1343.091" EndTime="1348.388" Participant="me011"> |
| One took four and one took six, or maybe it was eight and twelve. Whatever it was, it was, <Pause/> you know, fifty percent more. |
| </Segment> |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1349.420" EndTime="1351.103" Participant="me018"> |
| Is there a difference in price or something? |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1350.752" EndTime="1351.697" Participant="me011"> |
| Well, what happened is that |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1351.697" EndTime="1358.218" Participant="me011"> |
| we - we bought all our racks and disks from Andatico for years, according to Dave, and Andatico got bought by another company and doubled their prices. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1358.125" EndTime="1358.817" Participant="me018"> |
| Oh! <Comment Description="whispered"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1358.750" EndTime="1359.424" Participant="mn005"> |
| Oh. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1359.690" EndTime="1361.656" Participant="me011"> |
| And so, uh, we're looking into other vendors. |
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| <Segment StartTime="1361.656" EndTime="1362.228" Participant="me011"> |
| "We" - |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1361.656" EndTime="1362.181" Participant="fe008"> |
| Wow. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1362.228" EndTime="1365.421" Participant="me011"> |
| By "<Emphasis> we </Emphasis>" of course I mean <Emphasis> Dave. </Emphasis> So. <Comment Description="while laughing"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1364.116" EndTime="1364.837" Participant="me018"> |
| Mm-hmm. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1366.960" EndTime="1369.025" Participant="me018"> |
| Hmm. I've been looking at the, uh, |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1369.280" EndTime="1370.250" Participant="me018"> |
| Aurora data |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1370.460" EndTime="1371.417" Participant="me018"> |
| and, um, |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1372.718" EndTime="1374.332" Participant="me018"> |
| first - first look at it, |
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| <Segment StartTime="1374.332" EndTime="1376.121" Participant="me018"> |
| there were basically three |
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| <Segment StartTime="1376.540" EndTime="1378.750" Participant="me018"> |
| directories on there that could be moved. <Pause/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1378.750" EndTime="1384.760" Participant="me018"> |
| One was called Aurora, one was Spanish, which was Carmen's Spanish stuff, and the other one was, um, |
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| SPINE. <Comment Description="completing [me018]'s utterance"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1384.760" EndTime="1385.445" Participant="me018"> |
| SPINE. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1386.130" EndTime="1387.493" Participant="me018"> |
| And so, um, |
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| I wrote to Dan and he was very concerned that |
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| the SPINE stuff was moving to a non-backed-up disk. |
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| <VocalSound Description="loud breath"/> |
| </Segment> |
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| So, um, |
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| <Segment StartTime="1397.053" EndTime="1397.698" Participant="me018"> |
| I realized that |
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| <Segment StartTime="1397.698" EndTime="1400.270" Participant="me018"> |
| well, probably not all of that should be moved, just <Pause/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1400.270" EndTime="1401.080" Participant="me018"> |
| the <Pause/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1401.080" EndTime="1402.441" Participant="me018"> |
| C_D-ROM type data, the - <Pause/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1402.441" EndTime="1403.342" Participant="me018"> |
| the static data. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1403.342" EndTime="1403.893" Participant="me018"> |
| <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1403.893" EndTime="1405.082" Participant="me018"> |
| So I moved that, |
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| and then um, |
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| I asked him to check out and see if it was O_K. <Pause/> |
| </Segment> |
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| before I actually deleted the old stuff, |
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| <Segment StartTime="1410.774" EndTime="1412.160" Participant="me018"> |
| um, but I haven't heard back <Uncertain> yet </Uncertain>. |
| </Segment> |
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| I told him he could delete it if he wanted to, I haven't checked <Pause/> |
| </Segment> |
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| today to see if he's deleted it or not. |
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| <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1416.429" EndTime="1420.282" Participant="me018"> |
| And then Carmen's stuff, I realized that when I had copied all of her stuff to X_A, |
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| <Segment StartTime="1420.282" EndTime="1422.462" Participant="me018"> |
| I had copied stuff there that was |
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| dynamic data. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1423.993" EndTime="1425.257" Participant="me018"> |
| And so, |
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| <VocalSound Description="loud breath"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1425.257" EndTime="1428.420" Participant="me018"> |
| I had to redo that one and just copy over the static data. |
| </Segment> |
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| <VocalSound Description="loud breath"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1428.820" EndTime="1431.667" Participant="me018"> |
| And so I need to get with her now and delete the old stuff off the disk. |
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| <Segment StartTime="1431.667" EndTime="1434.866" Participant="me018"> |
| And then I lo- haven't done any of the Aurora stuff. I have to meet with, uh, Stephane |
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| to do that. So. |
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| <Segment StartTime="1436.647" EndTime="1438.133" Participant="me013"> |
| So, but, uh y- |
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| <Segment StartTime="1438.420" EndTime="1444.033" Participant="me013"> |
| you're figuring you can record another five meetings or something with the space that you're clearing up from the Broadcast News, |
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| <Segment StartTime="1444.640" EndTime="1445.901" Participant="me013"> |
| but, we have some |
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| <Segment StartTime="1446.520" EndTime="1449.151" Participant="me013"> |
| <Emphasis> other </Emphasis> disks, some of which you're using for Aurora, but |
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| are we g- do we have some other - |
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| Yep. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1451.553" EndTime="1452.906" Participant="me013"> |
| other space now? |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1451.812" EndTime="1452.545" Participant="me011"> |
| So, so, |
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| <Segment StartTime="1452.990" EndTime="1457.042" Participant="me011"> |
| uh, we have space on the current disk right now, where Meeting Recorder is, |
| </Segment> |
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| <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1457.042" EndTime="1457.980" Participant="me013"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1457.433" EndTime="1459.467" Participant="me011"> |
| and that's probably enough for about four meetings. |
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| <Segment StartTime="1459.362" EndTime="1462.620" Participant="me018"> |
| Is that the one that has - is that D_C? |
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| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1459.921" EndTime="1460.762" Participant="me011"> |
| So. |
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| <Segment StartTime="1461.491" EndTime="1461.831" Participant="me011"> |
| Yep. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1462.082" EndTime="1466.845" Participant="me011"> |
| No, no, <Pause/> well, it's wherever the Meeting Recorder currently is. I think it's D_I. |
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| <Segment StartTime="1467.140" EndTime="1471.095" Participant="me018"> |
| O_K, I - but the stuff I'm moving from Aurora is on the D_C disk that we - |
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| I don't remember. |
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| Th- I think it's D_C- It's whatever that one is. |
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| O_K, D_C. Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
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| I just don't remember, it might be D_C. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1474.296" EndTime="1474.889" Participant="me011"> |
| And |
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| <Segment StartTime="1475.150" EndTime="1477.547" Participant="me011"> |
| that has enough for about four <Pronounce> more </Pronounce> meetings right now. |
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| <Segment StartTime="1477.539" EndTime="1478.056" Participant="me013"> |
| Mm-hmm. |
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| Yeah, I mean we were at a hundred percent and then we dropped down to eighty-six for reasons I don't understand. |
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| <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1482.388" EndTime="1484.554" Participant="me011"> |
| Um, someone deleted something somewhere. |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="1484.554" EndTime="1484.851" Participant="me011"> |
| <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1484.851" EndTime="1486.291" Participant="me011"> |
| And so we have some room again. |
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| <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> |
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| And then |
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| with Broadcast News, that's five or six more meetings, so, you know, we have a couple weeks. |
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| Uh, so, yeah, I think - I think we're O_K, until we get the new disk. |
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| <Uncertain> O_K </Uncertain>. <Comment Description="whispered"/> |
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| So should, um - |
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| One question I had for you was, |
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| um, |
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| we need - <Pause/> |
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| we sh- probably should move the Aurora an- |
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| and all that other stuff off of |
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| the Meeting Recorder disk. |
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| Is there another backed-up <Pause/> disk that you know of that would - ? |
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| We should put it onto the Broadcast News one. |
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| That's probably the best thing to do. And that way we consolidate Meeting Recorder onto one disk <Pause/> rather than spreading them out. |
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| O_K. |
| </Segment> |
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| Right. |
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| Right. Do you know what - happen to know what disk that is off - ? O_K. |
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| <Segment StartTime="1520.302" EndTime="1520.606" Participant="me011"> |
| No. |
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| I mean, I can tell you, I just don't know off the top of my head. |
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| Yeah. O_K. |
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| Alright, I'll find out from you. |
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| But, so we could jus- just do that at the end of today, once the archive is complete, and I've verified it. |
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| O_K. |
| </Segment> |
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| <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> |
| </Segment> |
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| Cuz that'll give us plenty of disk. |
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| Uh, O_K, |
| </Segment> |
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| <Uncertain NumSyllables="1"> @@ </Uncertain> <Comment Description="uncodeable speech fragment"/> So, uh, |
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| <VocalSound Description="clears throat"/> |
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| then I guess th- the last thing I'd had on my - |
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| <Emphasis> my </Emphasis> agenda was just to hear - hear an update on |
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| <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="1541.909" EndTime="1544.125" Participant="me013"> |
| what - what Jose has been doing, so <Uncertain> that's </Uncertain> - |
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| Uh-huh. |
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| O_K. |
| </Segment> |
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| I have, eh, <VocalSound Description="clears throat"/> |
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| The result of my work during the last days. |
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| O_K. |
| </Segment> |
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| Thank you for your information because I - |
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| I read. |
| </Segment> |
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| Eh, and the - the last, eh, days, eh, I work, eh, in my house, |
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| Yeah. <Comment Description="while laughing"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1556.553" EndTime="1558.518" Participant="mn005"> |
| eh, in a lot of ways and |
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| <Segment StartTime="1558.706" EndTime="1562.710" Participant="mn005"> |
| thinking, reading eh, different things about the - the Meeting Recording project. |
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| <Segment StartTime="1560.280" EndTime="1560.880" Participant="me013"> |
| Uh-huh. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1563.054" EndTime="1565.390" Participant="mn005"> |
| And I have, eh, some ideas. |
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| <Segment StartTime="1565.637" EndTime="1567.735" Participant="mn005"> |
| Eh, this information is very - very useful. <Comment Description="referring to [fe008]'s results, showing density of overlaps throughout an earlier meeting"/> |
| </Segment> |
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| I'm glad to hear it. Glad to hear it. |
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| Because <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> you have the - the - the distribution, now. But |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1570.729" EndTime="1575.813" Participant="mn005"> |
| for me, eh is interesting because, eh, eh, |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1575.813" EndTime="1581.075" Participant="mn005"> |
| here's i- is the demonstration of the overlap, eh, <Pause/> problem. It's a real problem, <Comment Description="while laughing"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="1577.349" EndTime="1578.463" Participant="me011"> |
| I've seen it already. |
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| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
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| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
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| a <Uncertain> frequently </Uncertain> problem <Comment Description="while laughing"/> |
| </Segment> |
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| uh, because you have overlapping zones eh, eh, eh, all the time. <Pause/> |
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| Yep. |
| </Segment> |
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| Yeah. |
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| Throughout the meeting. |
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| Eh, by a moment I have, eh, nnn, the, eh, <Pause/> n- I - I <Uncertain> did a mark of </Uncertain> all the overlapped zones in the meeting recording, |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1597.627" EndTime="1600.220" Participant="mn005"> |
| with eh, a <Uncertain> exact </Uncertain> <Pause/> mark. |
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| <Segment StartTime="1599.893" EndTime="1600.690" Participant="me011"> |
| Mm-hmm. |
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| Oh, you did that by hand? |
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| Heh? |
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| That's eh, |
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| <Uncertain> yet </Uncertain> |
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| b- b- Yeah, by - b- b- by hand - by hand because, |
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| Can I see that? |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> Can I get a copy? |
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| Oh. |
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| eh, <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> eh - |
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| "Why." <Comment Description="rhetorical question"/> |
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| My - my idea is to work - |
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| I - I - I do- I don- I don't <Uncertain NumSyllables="2"> @@ </Uncertain> - |
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| Wow! <Comment Description="whispered"/> |
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| I don't know, eh, if, eh, it will be possible because I - I - I haven't a lot - eh, enough time to - to - to work. |
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| uh, only just eh, six months, as you know, |
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| but, eh, my idea is, eh, |
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| is very interesting to - to work <Pause/> in - in the line of, eh, automatic segmenter. |
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| Mm-hmm. |
| </Segment> |
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| Eh but eh, eh, |
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| in my opinion, <Pause/> we need eh, eh, a reference <Pause/> eh session |
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| <Segment StartTime="1636.322" EndTime="1637.643" Participant="me011"> |
| Yes, absolutely. |
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| to - t- to - to evaluate |
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| And so are you planning to do that or have you done that already? |
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| the - the - the tool. |
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| And - |
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| No, no, with i- Sorry? With - ? <Comment Description="leading question"/> |
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| Have you done that or are you planning to do that? |
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| No, I - I - plan to do that. |
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| O_K. Darn! <Comment Description="while laughing"/> |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> I plan - I plan, but eh, |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| eh, the idea <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> is the - is the following. |
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| Now, <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> eh, |
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| I need ehm, |
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| <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> |
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| to detect eh all the overlapping zones exactly. |
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| I - I will - I will eh, talk about eh, <Pause/> in the - in the <Uncertain> blackboard </Uncertain> |
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| Yeah. |
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| Duration. <Comment Description="completing [mn005]'s utterance"/> |
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| Mm-hmm. |
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| about the - my ideas. |
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| <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> |
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| Eh, um, |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> |
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| eh - |
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| This information |
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| eh, with eh, exactly time marks |
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| eh, for the overlapping zones |
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| eh - |
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| overlapping zone, and eh, a speaker - |
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| a - a pure speech eh, eh, speaker zone. |
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| I mean, eh zones eh of eh speech of eh, one speaker |
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| without any - any eh, noise eh, any - any acoustic event eh that eh, eh, w- eh, is not eh, speech, <Emphasis> real </Emphasis> speech. |
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| And, I need t- <Uncertain> true </Uncertain> eh, silence |
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| for that, because my - my idea is to - to study the nnn - the - |
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| <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> the set of parameters |
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| eh, what, eh, are more m- more discriminant |
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| Right. |
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| to eh, classify. |
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| the overlapping zones in cooperation with the speech <Pause/> eh zones. |
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| The idea is |
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| <Pause/> to eh - to use - |
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| eh, I'm not sure to - eh yet, |
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| but eh my idea is |
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| to use a - a cluster <Pause/> <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> eh algorithm or, nnn, |
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| a <Uncertain> person strong </Uncertain> in neural net algorithm |
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| to eh - |
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| to eh study |
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| what is the, eh, the <Uncertain> property </Uncertain> of the different feat- eh feature, eh, to classify |
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| eh speech and overlapping eh speech. |
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| Mmm. |
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| And my idea is eh, |
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| it would be interesting to - to have |
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| eh, <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> a control set. |
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| And my control set eh, will be the eh, silence, |
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| <Segment StartTime="1748.281" EndTime="1751.191" Participant="mn005"> |
| silence without eh, any - any noise. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1748.423" EndTime="1749.142" Participant="me013"> |
| Mm-hmm. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1750.266" EndTime="1750.999" Participant="fe008"> |
| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="1750.999" EndTime="1757.109" Participant="fe008"> |
| Which means that we'd still - You'd hear the - Yeah. <Comment Description="noticing the fan"/> That's interesting. This is like a ground level, with - It's not- it's not total silence. |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> Yeah, acoustic with this. <Comment Description="referring to the fan overhead"/> |
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| Yeah, fans. |
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| With - with, yeah, the background. Eh, |
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| I - I mean eh, noise eh, |
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| eh claps eh, <Uncertain> tape </Uncertain> clips, eh, the difference eh, |
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| <Segment StartTime="1759.637" EndTime="1760.533" Participant="me013"> |
| Mm-hmm. |
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| eh, eh, event eh, which, eh, eh, has, eh eh, a <Uncertain> hard effect </Uncertain> of distorti- spectral distortion in the - in the eh <Pause/> speech. |
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| Mm-hmm. |
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| Mm-hmm. |
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| <Segment StartTime="1772.435" EndTime="1775.928" Participant="me011"> |
| So - so you intend to hand-mark those and exclude them? |
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| Yeah, I have mark- |
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| Mm-hmm. |
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| in - in - in - in that - Not in all - in all the - the file, |
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| only eh, eh, nnn, <Pause/> mmm, |
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| I have eh, |
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| ehm <Pause/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="1787.240" EndTime="1790.147" Participant="mn005"> |
| I don't remind <Comment Description="meaning "remember""/> what is the - the - the - the quantity, but eh, |
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| <Segment StartTime="1790.413" EndTime="1795.180" Participant="mn005"> |
| I - I have <Pronounce Pronunciation=""mark-ed""> marked </Pronounce> enough speech on over- and all the overlapping zones. |
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| I have, eh, <Pause/> two hundred and thirty, |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1798.416" EndTime="1800.770" Participant="mn005"> |
| more or less, overlapping zones, and |
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| Whew! <Comment Description="interjection"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1800.950" EndTime="1805.712" Participant="mn005"> |
| is similar to - to this information, <Comment Description="referring to [fe008]'s page of results"/> <Pause/> because with the program, I cross <Pause/> |
| </Segment> |
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| Great. |
| </Segment> |
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| Mm-hmm. |
| </Segment> |
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| Great. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1805.712" EndTime="1808.137" Participant="mn005"> |
| the information of uh, of Jane <Comment Description="rising"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1808.452" EndTime="1810.975" Participant="mn005"> |
| with eh, my- my segmentation by hand. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1811.290" EndTime="1813.626" Participant="mn005"> |
| And <Pause/> is eh, mor- more similar. |
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| Excellent. Glad to hear it. Good. |
| </Segment> |
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| But - |
| </Segment> |
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| <Uncertain NumSyllables="2"> @@ </Uncertain> Go ahead. <Comment Description="relinquishing floor"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1816.994" EndTime="1818.012" Participant="mn005"> |
| Sorry, sorry. <Comment Description="to [me013], regarding holding the floor"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1818.012" EndTime="1820.143" Participant="mn005"> |
| And the - the idea is, eh, |
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| <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> |
| </Segment> |
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| I - I will use, eh, - |
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| I want - <Pause/> |
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| My idea is, eh, |
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| <VocalSound Description="clears throat"/> |
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| <VocalSound Description="cough"/> |
| </Segment> |
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| to eh - |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1831.446" EndTime="1832.470" Participant="mn005"> |
| <Comment Description="stands up and goes to the whiteboard"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1832.403" EndTime="1835.047" Participant="me011"> |
| I should've <Pause/> got the digital camera. Oh well. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1832.901" EndTime="1835.044" Participant="mn005"> |
| <NonVocalSound Description="noises from writing on whiteboard"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1835.044" EndTime="1836.034" Participant="mn005"> |
| to classify. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1837.450" EndTime="1840.431" Participant="mn005"> |
| I - I need eh, the exact eh, mark |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1840.431" EndTime="1842.004" Participant="mn005"> |
| of the different, eh, |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1842.004" EndTime="1849.148" Participant="mn005"> |
| eh, zones because I - I want to put, eh, for eh, each frame a label <Pause/> indicating. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1849.148" EndTime="1853.219" Participant="mn005"> |
| It's a <Uncertain> sup- supervised </Uncertain> and, eh, hierarchical clustering process. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1853.219" EndTime="1856.288" Participant="mn005"> |
| I - I - I put, eh, eh, |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1856.288" EndTime="1857.599" Participant="mn005"> |
| for each frame |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1857.599" EndTime="1859.921" Participant="mn005"> |
| <NonVocalSound Description="noises from writing on whiteboard"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1859.921" EndTime="1860.827" Participant="mn005"> |
| a label |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1862.628" EndTime="1864.886" Participant="mn005"> |
| indicating what is th- the type, |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1864.886" EndTime="1867.430" Participant="mn005"> |
| what is the class, eh, which it belong. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1867.195" EndTime="1867.771" Participant="me011"> |
| Mm-hmm. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1868.040" EndTime="1870.609" Participant="mn005"> |
| Eh, I mean, the class you will |
| </Segment> |
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| <NonVocalSound Description="noises from writing on whiteboard"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1871.950" EndTime="1873.643" Participant="mn005"> |
| overlapping speech |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1874.002" EndTime="1875.743" Participant="mn005"> |
| "overlapping" is a class, |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1876.254" EndTime="1877.470" Participant="mn005"> |
| eh, "speech" |
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| <NonVocalSound Description="noises from writing on whiteboard"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1878.305" EndTime="1879.888" Participant="me011"> |
| Nonspeech. <Comment Description="completing [mn005]'s utterance, quietly"/> |
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| <Uncertain NumSyllables="1"> @@ </Uncertain> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1882.490" EndTime="1883.477" Participant="mn005"> |
| the class <Pause/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1883.477" EndTime="1884.242" Participant="mn005"> |
| that's a- |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1883.670" EndTime="1885.602" Participant="me018"> |
| These will be assigned by hand? |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1886.350" EndTime="1887.396" Participant="me018"> |
| Based on the - <Comment Description="leading question"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1886.916" EndTime="1889.489" Participant="mn005"> |
| I - I - I ha- I h- I - I put the mark by hand, |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1889.448" EndTime="1890.079" Participant="me018"> |
| Uh-huh. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1889.608" EndTime="1890.793" Participant="mn005"> |
| because, eh, |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1890.793" EndTime="1891.140" Participant="mn005"> |
| <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1891.140" EndTime="1892.347" Participant="mn005"> |
| my idea is, eh, |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1892.347" EndTime="1893.743" Participant="mn005"> |
| in - in the first session, |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1894.047" EndTime="1897.286" Participant="mn005"> |
| I need, eh, <Pause/> I - I need, eh, to be <Emphasis> sure </Emphasis> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1897.649" EndTime="1899.011" Participant="mn005"> |
| that the information |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1899.379" EndTime="1902.049" Participant="mn005"> |
| eh, that, eh, I - I will cluster, |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1899.616" EndTime="1901.818" Participant="me011"> |
| Well, training, and validation. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1901.986" EndTime="1902.576" Participant="me011"> |
| Sure. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1902.282" EndTime="1903.870" Participant="mn005"> |
| is - is right. Because, eh, |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1903.870" EndTime="1910.347" Participant="mn005"> |
| eh, if <Emphasis> not, </Emphasis> eh, I will - I will, eh, return to the speech file to analyze eh, what is the problems, eh. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1909.243" EndTime="1909.899" Participant="me011"> |
| Mm-hmm. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1910.578" EndTime="1916.931" Participant="mn005"> |
| And <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> I - I'd prefer - I would prefer, the- to - to have, eh, this labeled automatically, but, eh, |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1915.087" EndTime="1915.902" Participant="fe008"> |
| <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1917.206" EndTime="1918.313" Participant="mn005"> |
| eh, fro- th- |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1917.349" EndTime="1918.393" Participant="me018"> |
| You need <Emphasis> truth. </Emphasis> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1918.313" EndTime="1918.812" Participant="mn005"> |
| I need <Uncertain> truth </Uncertain>. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1918.706" EndTime="1920.744" Participant="me011"> |
| Yeah, <Uncertain> but this </Uncertain> is what you're <Emphasis> starting </Emphasis> with. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1918.820" EndTime="1919.184" Participant="me018"> |
| Hmm. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1919.059" EndTime="1919.368" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1920.077" EndTime="1920.757" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1920.088" EndTime="1920.818" Participant="fe008"> |
| I've gotta ask you. So, |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1921.131" EndTime="1923.012" Participant="fe008"> |
| uh, the difference between the <Emphasis> top </Emphasis> two, |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1923.012" EndTime="1926.089" Participant="fe008"> |
| i- So - so - I start at the bottom, so "silence" is clear. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1926.540" EndTime="1929.851" Participant="fe008"> |
| By "speech" do you mean speech by one sp- by one person only? |
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| <Segment StartTime="1927.302" EndTime="1928.275" Participant="mn005"> |
| Speech - |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1929.851" EndTime="1930.703" Participant="fe008"> |
| <Pause/> So this is un- |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1930.027" EndTime="1931.258" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Is - |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1930.703" EndTime="1932.486" Participant="fe008"> |
| <Uncertain> O_K </Uncertain>, and then and then the top includes |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1932.032" EndTime="1932.565" Participant="mn005"> |
| <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> <Comment Description="as if to speak"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1932.486" EndTime="1941.883" Participant="fe008"> |
| people speaking at the same time, or - or a speaker and a breath overlapping, someone else's breath, or - or clicking, overlapping with speech - So, |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1932.742" EndTime="1934.145" Participant="me011"> |
| One or- two or more. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1933.508" EndTime="1935.519" Participant="mn005"> |
| One, two, three. <Comment Description="listing, notionally complete"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1936.249" EndTime="1936.846" Participant="mn005"> |
| but- |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1938.068" EndTime="1938.907" Participant="mn005"> |
| <VocalSound Description="loud breath"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1938.907" EndTime="1940.234" Participant="mn005"> |
| No, by th- by the moment n- |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1940.234" EndTime="1940.838" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1940.838" EndTime="1941.586" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1941.586" EndTime="1942.274" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1941.883" EndTime="1944.273" Participant="fe008"> |
| that - that's all those possibilities in the top one. <Pause/> O_K. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1942.572" EndTime="1942.822" Participant="mn005"> |
| <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1942.822" EndTime="1943.469" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1943.469" EndTime="1943.891" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1944.297" EndTime="1950.482" Participant="mn005"> |
| Eh, in the first moment, because, eh, eh, I - I have information, eh, of the overlapping zones, |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1950.482" EndTime="1958.282" Participant="mn005"> |
| eh, information about if the, eh, overlapping zone is, eh, from a speech, <Uncertain> clear </Uncertain> speech, from a one to a two eh speaker, |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1958.282" EndTime="1967.289" Participant="mn005"> |
| <Pause/> or three speaker, or is - is the zone where the breath of a speaker eh, overlaps eh, onto eh, a speech, another, |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1966.630" EndTime="1972.051" Participant="fe008"> |
| So it's basi- it's basically speech wi- som- with - with something overlapping, which could be speech but doesn't need to be. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1967.289" EndTime="1969.511" Participant="mn005"> |
| especially speech. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1971.930" EndTime="1975.083" Participant="mn005"> |
| No, no, es- especially <Pause/> eh, overlapping speech |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1975.083" EndTime="1977.681" Participant="mn005"> |
| <Pause/> from, eh, different eh, eh, speaker. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1977.385" EndTime="1977.793" Participant="me013"> |
| <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1977.793" EndTime="1983.960" Participant="me013"> |
| No, but there's - but, I think she's saying "Where do you - In these three categories, where do you put the instances |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1977.853" EndTime="1978.313" Participant="mn005"> |
| Eh - |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1983.960" EndTime="1986.085" Participant="me013"> |
| in which there is one person speaking |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1986.495" EndTime="1989.332" Participant="me013"> |
| and other sounds which are not speech?" |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1990.432" EndTime="1990.757" Participant="mn005"> |
| Ah! |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1991.210" EndTime="1993.250" Participant="me013"> |
| Which category do you put <Emphasis> that </Emphasis> in? |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1991.908" EndTime="1993.536" Participant="fe008"> |
| Yeah, that's right. That's my question. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1993.474" EndTime="1993.828" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1994.102" EndTime="1997.939" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah, he- here I - I put eh speech from eh, |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1997.939" EndTime="1999.912" Participant="mn005"> |
| from, eh, one speaker |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1998.823" EndTime="1999.601" Participant="fe008"> |
| Oh! |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="1999.912" EndTime="2001.135" Participant="mn005"> |
| <Pause/> without, eh, |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2001.135" EndTime="2004.190" Participant="mn005"> |
| eh, any - any - any events more. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2003.603" EndTime="2004.283" Participant="me013"> |
| Right, |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2004.283" EndTime="2006.587" Participant="me013"> |
| so where do you put speech from one speaker |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2006.894" EndTime="2010.032" Participant="me013"> |
| that <Emphasis> does </Emphasis> have a nonspeech event at the same time? |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2010.314" EndTime="2012.458" Participant="me013"> |
| Which <Pronounce> catege- </Pronounce> which category? |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2010.430" EndTime="2012.346" Participant="mn005"> |
| Where? Where - What is the class? |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2010.430" EndTime="2011.270" Participant="fe008"> |
| Like a c- |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2012.346" EndTime="2013.571" Participant="mn005"> |
| No. By the moment, no. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2013.737" EndTime="2014.050" Participant="fe008"> |
| Oh. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2013.833" EndTime="2015.825" Participant="me011"> |
| Yeah, yeah, that's what he was saying before. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2014.050" EndTime="2014.723" Participant="me013"> |
| Oh, so you - |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2014.050" EndTime="2015.486" Participant="fe008"> |
| So you don't - i- i- it's not in that - |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2014.050" EndTime="2015.706" Participant="mn005"> |
| For - for the - by the <Uncertain NumSyllables="2"> @@ </Uncertain> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2014.970" EndTime="2016.132" Participant="me013"> |
| not - <Emphasis> not </Emphasis> marked. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2015.706" EndTime="2018.901" Participant="mn005"> |
| no, <Uncertain NumSyllables="1"> @@ </Uncertain> because I - I - I - I want to <Pronounce Pronunciation=""lim-*it""> limit </Pronounce> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2016.520" EndTime="2017.447" Participant="me013"> |
| O_K. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2019.060" EndTime="2021.350" Participant="mn005"> |
| the - the - nnn, <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> the - the study. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2019.060" EndTime="2019.628" Participant="me013"> |
| Got it. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2021.266" EndTime="2022.403" Participant="me013"> |
| Fine. So - so - |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2021.388" EndTime="2023.911" Participant="me011"> |
| Yeah, so that's what he was saying before, is that he <Emphasis> excluded </Emphasis> those. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2021.806" EndTime="2023.840" Participant="me018"> |
| So you're not using <Emphasis> all </Emphasis> of the data. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2022.590" EndTime="2024.036" Participant="mn005"> |
| The - All - I - |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2023.911" EndTime="2024.758" Participant="me011"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2024.036" EndTime="2024.718" Participant="mn005"> |
| Exactly. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2024.741" EndTime="2025.443" Participant="me013"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2025.080" EndTime="2025.937" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah, you mean - |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2025.127" EndTime="2029.231" Participant="fe008"> |
| So you're ignoring overlapping events unless they're speech with speech. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2026.942" EndTime="2028.301" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah, be- |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2028.759" EndTime="2029.919" Participant="me013"> |
| Yeah, that's fine. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2028.954" EndTime="2029.543" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2029.547" EndTime="2030.265" Participant="fe008"> |
| O_K. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2030.082" EndTime="2032.011" Participant="mn005"> |
| "Why? Why? What's the reason?" <Comment Description="rhetorical question"/> because |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2030.244" EndTime="2030.640" Participant="me013"> |
| <Uncertain NumSyllables="1"> @@ </Uncertain> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2032.011" EndTime="2033.660" Participant="mn005"> |
| <Pause/> i- it's the first study. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2033.660" EndTime="2036.746" Participant="me013"> |
| Oh, no - no, it's a perfectly sensible way to go. We just wondered - |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2034.001" EndTime="2034.649" Participant="mn005"> |
| <Uncertain> the first </Uncertain> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2035.665" EndTime="2036.114" Participant="fe008"> |
| We're just- |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2036.746" EndTime="2038.988" Participant="me013"> |
| trying to understand what - what you were doing. O_K. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2037.184" EndTime="2037.857" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2037.572" EndTime="2038.019" Participant="fe008"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2038.355" EndTime="2041.106" Participant="fe008"> |
| Yeah cuz you've talked about other overlapping events in the <Emphasis> past. </Emphasis> So, |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2039.795" EndTime="2040.125" Participant="mn005"> |
| <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2040.125" EndTime="2040.598" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2041.106" EndTime="2042.811" Participant="fe008"> |
| this is - this is - a <Emphasis> subset. </Emphasis> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2041.118" EndTime="2041.606" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2041.889" EndTime="2045.319" Participant="mn005"> |
| In the - in the future, the - the idea is to - to extend <Pause/> the class, |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2045.402" EndTime="2046.659" Participant="me018"> |
| Is - is - |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2045.743" EndTime="2049.813" Participant="mn005"> |
| to consider all the - all the information, you - you mentioned before |
| </Segment> |
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| Yeah. |
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| Yeah, I - I don't think we were asking for that. We were jus- just trying to understand - |
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| O_K. |
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| Yeah. |
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| but eh, the - the first idea - Because eh, I don't know |
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| Yeah, we just wanted to know what the category was here. <Comment Description="faster tempo, limited time before speaker resumes"/> |
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| <Pause/> what hap- what will happen <Comment Description="while laughing"/> with the study. Yeah. |
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| Right. |
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| Yeah. |
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| Sure. |
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| Is your silence category pure silence, or - ? What if there was a door-slam or something? |
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| i- it's pure - |
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| <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="2061.226" EndTime="2063.008" Participant="mn005"> |
| No, no, it's pure silence. |
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| <Segment StartTime="2062.324" EndTime="2063.197" Participant="me018"> |
| Pure silence. |
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| <Segment StartTime="2063.008" EndTime="2064.119" Participant="mn005"> |
| It's the control set. |
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| <Segment StartTime="2064.079" EndTime="2064.706" Participant="me018"> |
| O_K. |
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| <Uncertain> O_K? </Uncertain> |
| </Segment> |
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| It's the control set. |
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| <Segment StartTime="2065.678" EndTime="2067.581" Participant="me013"> |
| What you - Well - w- |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2066.139" EndTime="2069.974" Participant="mn005"> |
| It's pure si- pure silence <Comment Description="while laughing"/> with the - with the machine on the - on the roof. <Comment Description="meaning ceiling fan"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2067.581" EndTime="2068.645" Participant="me013"> |
| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2068.507" EndTime="2069.512" Participant="me011"> |
| With the fan. |
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| <Segment StartTime="2068.645" EndTime="2069.974" Participant="me013"> |
| I - I think what you m- |
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| <Segment StartTime="2069.974" EndTime="2076.046" Participant="me013"> |
| I think what you mean <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> is that it's nonspeech segments that don't have impulsive noises. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2076.484" EndTime="2076.949" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah. |
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| <Segment StartTime="2076.539" EndTime="2080.235" Participant="me013"> |
| Right? Cuz you're calling - what you're calling "event" is somebody coughing |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2080.235" EndTime="2084.827" Participant="me013"> |
| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> or clicking, or rustling paper, or hitting something, which are impulsive noises. |
| </Segment> |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2085.028" EndTime="2085.404" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2085.341" EndTime="2088.279" Participant="me013"> |
| But steady-state noises are part of the background. |
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| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2088.414" EndTime="2090.398" Participant="me013"> |
| Which, <Uncertain> are being </Uncertain>, included in that. Right? |
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| <Uncertain NumSyllables="1"> @@ </Uncertain> h- here yet, |
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| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2091.850" EndTime="2093.979" Participant="fe008"> |
| So it's like a signal-noise situation. |
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| <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> <Comment Description="as if to speak"/> |
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| yet |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2092.714" EndTime="2095.232" Participant="mn005"> |
| I - I - I - I - I think - I - I think, eh, |
| </Segment> |
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| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2095.004" EndTime="2095.765" Participant="me013"> |
| Well - |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2095.232" EndTime="2098.580" Participant="mn005"> |
| there are - that - some kind of noises that, eh, |
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| <Segment StartTime="2098.580" EndTime="2101.045" Participant="mn005"> |
| don't - don't <Uncertain> wanted </Uncertain> to - to be in that, eh, |
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| <Segment StartTime="2100.603" EndTime="2101.121" Participant="me013"> |
| Yeah. <VocalSound Description="vocal squeak"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2101.045" EndTime="2102.319" Participant="mn005"> |
| in that control set. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2102.572" EndTime="2105.534" Participant="mn005"> |
| But I prefer, I prefer at - at the first, eh, |
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| <Segment StartTime="2105.534" EndTime="2108.047" Participant="mn005"> |
| the - the silence with eh, this eh this kind |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2107.857" EndTime="2108.898" Participant="fe008"> |
| Well, steady state. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2108.047" EndTime="2110.625" Participant="mn005"> |
| of the - of eh - of noise. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2108.991" EndTime="2115.091" Participant="me013"> |
| Right, it's - I mean, it's - "Background" might be - might be a better word than "silence". It's just sort of that - the - the background acoustic - <Comment Description="abandoned as clear"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="2112.297" EndTime="2113.062" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah. |
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| Yeah. |
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| Yeah. |
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| Yeah. |
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| Right. So - |
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| Is - is - is only - |
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| <Segment StartTime="2116.583" EndTime="2118.547" Participant="me011"> |
| Fine. Go on. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="2117.284" EndTime="2118.910" Participant="mn005"> |
| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> O_K. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2117.405" EndTime="2118.037" Participant="me013"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2118.507" EndTime="2120.706" Participant="fe008"> |
| Well, we needed to get the categories, yeah. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2118.910" EndTime="2121.485" Participant="mn005"> |
| And, um, <Uncertain> with </Uncertain> this information |
| </Segment> |
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| <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2122.100" EndTime="2124.396" Participant="mn005"> |
| The idea is eh, eh, nnn, |
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| <Segment StartTime="2124.829" EndTime="2125.702" Participant="mn005"> |
| I have |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2126.195" EndTime="2130.854" Participant="mn005"> |
| a label for - for each, eh, <Uncertain> frame </Uncertain> and, eh with a cluster |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2131.065" EndTime="2132.527" Participant="mn005"> |
| eh - algorithm |
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| <Segment StartTime="2132.527" EndTime="2133.891" Participant="mn005"> |
| I - and - |
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| <Segment StartTime="2134.345" EndTime="2134.889" Participant="mn005"> |
| Sorry. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2135.225" EndTime="2136.065" Participant="mn005"> |
| And eh |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2136.653" EndTime="2138.464" Participant="mn005"> |
| I am going <Pause/> to prepare |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2140.070" EndTime="2142.585" Participant="mn005"> |
| a test bed, eh, well, eh, |
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| <Segment StartTime="2142.940" EndTime="2147.540" Participant="mn005"> |
| a - a set of <Pause/> feature structure eh, eh, models. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2147.302" EndTime="2147.931" Participant="me011"> |
| Right. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2148.026" EndTime="2150.812" Participant="mn005"> |
| And <Pause/> my idea is <Comment Description="while writing on whiteboard"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2150.812" EndTime="2155.560" Participant="mn005"> |
| <NonVocalSound Description="writing on whiteboard, audible in background"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2155.422" EndTime="2157.040" Participant="me011"> |
| "Tone", whatever. |
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| <Segment StartTime="2159.749" EndTime="2161.168" Participant="mn005"> |
| <Uncertain> so - so - on - </Uncertain> |
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| <Segment StartTime="2163.290" EndTime="2163.736" Participant="me013"> |
| Right. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2163.732" EndTime="2165.945" Participant="mn005"> |
| because I have a pitch extractor yet. <Comment Description=""yet" means "now" or "already""/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2165.387" EndTime="2166.167" Participant="me011"> |
| Mm-hmm. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2166.330" EndTime="2168.230" Participant="mn005"> |
| I have to - to test, but eh |
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| You have your own? |
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| I - <Pause/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2168.669" EndTime="2169.412" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. |
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| <Segment StartTime="2169.375" EndTime="2169.860" Participant="me018"> |
| Oh! |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2169.412" EndTime="2170.682" Participant="mn005"> |
| I ha- I <Uncertain> have prepare </Uncertain>. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2170.682" EndTime="2172.859" Participant="mn005"> |
| Is a modified version of - of - of a |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2173.117" EndTime="2174.169" Participant="mn005"> |
| pitch tracker, |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2174.169" EndTime="2177.547" Participant="mn005"> |
| eh, from, eh, Standar- eh Stanford University - in <Emphasis> Stanford? </Emphasis> No. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2177.547" EndTime="2180.147" Participant="mn005"> |
| From, eh, em, <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2180.147" EndTime="2181.678" Participant="mn005"> |
| <Emphasis> Cambridge </Emphasis> <Pause/> University. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2180.873" EndTime="2181.315" Participant="me018"> |
| Oh! |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2181.559" EndTime="2182.511" Participant="me018"> |
| What's it written in? |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2182.544" EndTime="2185.838" Participant="mn005"> |
| Eh, em, I - I - I don't remember what is the - the name of the - of the author, |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2185.838" EndTime="2188.950" Participant="mn005"> |
| because I - I have several - I have eh, eh, em, |
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| <Segment StartTime="2189.437" EndTime="2193.149" Participant="mn005"> |
| eh, library tools, from eh, Festival |
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| <Segment StartTime="2191.028" EndTime="2192.064" Participant="me013"> |
| Mm-hmm. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2191.153" EndTime="2191.673" Participant="me018"> |
| Ah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2193.410" EndTime="2194.227" Participant="me013"> |
| Mm-hmm. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2193.580" EndTime="2195.410" Participant="mn005"> |
| and - of - from <Pronounce Pronunciation="pronounced as two syllables"> Edinburgh </Pronounce> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2195.410" EndTime="2198.872" Participant="mn005"> |
| eh, from Cambridge, eh, and from our department. And - And |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2198.872" EndTime="2203.570" Participant="mn005"> |
| I have to - because, <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> in general the pitch tracker, doesn't work <Comment Description="while laughing"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2202.863" EndTime="2203.766" Participant="me011"> |
| Bad. <Comment Description="completing [mn005]'s utterance"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2203.570" EndTime="2204.597" Participant="mn005"> |
| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2203.766" EndTime="2204.500" Participant="me011"> |
| Right. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2204.930" EndTime="2206.336" Participant="mn005"> |
| very well and - |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2205.338" EndTime="2207.549" Participant="me011"> |
| But, you know, as a <Emphasis> feature, </Emphasis> it might be <Emphasis> O_K </Emphasis>. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2207.141" EndTime="2207.848" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2207.549" EndTime="2208.540" Participant="me011"> |
| So, we don't know. |
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| <Segment StartTime="2207.848" EndTime="2208.540" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2208.910" EndTime="2210.362" Participant="mn005"> |
| This - this is - And |
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| <Pause/> th- the idea is to - to, eh, |
| </Segment> |
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| to <Pronounce> obtain, </Pronounce> eh, |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2214.803" EndTime="2215.837" Participant="mn005"> |
| <Pause/> for example, |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2215.837" EndTime="2216.263" Participant="mn005"> |
| eh, |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2216.263" EndTime="2217.271" Participant="mn005"> |
| <Pause/> <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2217.271" EndTime="2218.346" Participant="mn005"> |
| eh |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2219.028" EndTime="2223.574" Participant="mn005"> |
| diff- eh, eh, different - well, no, a great number of eh <Uncertain> F_E_C </Uncertain> for example, |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2223.574" EndTime="2228.554" Participant="mn005"> |
| eh, <Pause/> eh, twenty-five, eh, thirty - thirty parameters, |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2228.554" EndTime="2230.059" Participant="mn005"> |
| eh, for - for each one. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2230.330" EndTime="2231.359" Participant="mn005"> |
| And |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2231.359" EndTime="2233.840" Participant="mn005"> |
| in a first eh, nnn, step |
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| in the investi- in the research in- |
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| eh, my idea is |
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| <Segment StartTime="2237.104" EndTime="2238.518" Participant="mn005"> |
| try to, eh, |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2238.819" EndTime="2239.448" Participant="mn005"> |
| to prove, |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2239.338" EndTime="2240.759" Participant="me011"> |
| Supervised clustering. <Comment Description="completing [mn005]'s utterance, whispered"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2239.448" EndTime="2242.467" Participant="mn005"> |
| what is the performance of the difference parameter, |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2242.309" EndTime="2243.367" Participant="me011"> |
| Mm-hmm. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2242.467" EndTime="2244.201" Participant="mn005"> |
| eh <Pause/> to classify |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2244.201" EndTime="2246.852" Participant="mn005"> |
| <Pause/> the different, eh, what is the - |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2246.852" EndTime="2248.838" Participant="mn005"> |
| the - the - the front-end approach |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2248.838" EndTime="2253.016" Participant="mn005"> |
| to classify eh, the different, eh, frames of each class <Pause/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2253.016" EndTime="2255.884" Participant="mn005"> |
| eh and what is the - the, nnn, nnn, |
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| <Segment StartTime="2255.884" EndTime="2258.680" Participant="mn005"> |
| nnn, eh, what is the, the error |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2258.680" EndTime="2260.190" Participant="mn005"> |
| <Pause/> eh, of the <Uncertain> data </Uncertain> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2260.190" EndTime="2262.708" Participant="mn005"> |
| This is the - the eh, first idea |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2260.246" EndTime="2260.994" Participant="fe008"> |
| <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> <Comment Description="as if to speak"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2260.994" EndTime="2261.543" Participant="fe008"> |
| Mm-hmm. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2262.708" EndTime="2263.760" Participant="mn005"> |
| <Pause/> and the second |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2263.760" EndTime="2266.726" Participant="mn005"> |
| <Pause/> is try to - eh, to use |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2266.726" EndTime="2272.137" Participant="mn005"> |
| <Pause/> some ideas eh, similar to the linear discriminant analysis. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2270.810" EndTime="2271.783" Participant="me011"> |
| Mm-hmm. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2272.443" EndTime="2272.725" Participant="mn005"> |
| Eh? |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2273.755" EndTime="2277.500" Participant="mn005"> |
| Eh, <Emphasis> similar, </Emphasis> because the- the idea is to - to study |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2277.500" EndTime="2281.394" Participant="mn005"> |
| <Pause/> what is the contribution of eh, each parameter |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2282.558" EndTime="2287.643" Participant="mn005"> |
| to the process of classify correctly the different - the different parameters. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2284.646" EndTime="2285.530" Participant="me011"> |
| Mm-hmm. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2287.643" EndTime="2288.902" Participant="me011"> |
| What sort of classifier ar- ? |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2288.159" EndTime="2297.122" Participant="mn005"> |
| Eh, the - the - the classifier is - nnn by the moment is eh - is eh, similar, nnn, that the classifier <Pronounce Pronunciation=""use-ed""> used </Pronounce> eh, in |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2297.122" EndTime="2299.638" Participant="mn005"> |
| a quantifier - vectorial quantifier |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2299.638" EndTime="2307.777" Participant="mn005"> |
| is eh, used to - to eh, some distance <Pause/> to - to put eh, a vector eh, in - in a class different. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2308.007" EndTime="2311.365" Participant="me011"> |
| <Uncertain NumSyllables="1"> @@ </Uncertain> Unimodal? So is it just one cluster per - |
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| Mm-hmm. |
| </Segment> |
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| Is - <Uncertain> Yeah? </Uncertain> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2310.151" EndTime="2316.963" Participant="mn005"> |
| W- with a model, is - is only to cluster using a eh, <Uncertain NumSyllables="5"> @@ </Uncertain> or a similarity. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2316.963" EndTime="2322.090" Participant="mn005"> |
| A- another possibility it to use eh a netw- netw- a neural network. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2321.805" EndTime="2322.211" Participant="me011"> |
| Right. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2322.360" EndTime="2324.079" Participant="mn005"> |
| But eh what's the p- |
| </Segment> |
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| <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="2324.363" EndTime="2328.677" Participant="mn005"> |
| What is my idea? What's the <Emphasis> problem </Emphasis> I - I - I - I see in - in - in - |
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| if you - you use the - the neural network? <Comment Description="rhetorical question"/> If - |
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| w- when <Pause/> this kind of eh, mmm, cluster, clustering algorithm |
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| to can test, to can eh observe what happened |
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| you - you can't - |
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| you can't eh, |
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| Right, you can't analyze it. |
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| eh put up <Uncertain> with your hand </Uncertain> <Comment Description="while laughing"/> |
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| in the different parameter, but eh - |
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| If you use a neural net is - is a good idea, but eh |
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| you don't know what happened in the interior of the neural net. |
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| Well, actually, you <Emphasis> can </Emphasis> do sensitivity analyses |
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| which show you what the importance of the different <Pronounce> parce- </Pronounce> pieces of the input are. |
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| Yeah. |
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| Mm-hmm. |
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| It's hard to - w- w- what you - It's hard to tell on a neural net is what's going on <Emphasis> internally. </Emphasis> |
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| Yeah. |
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| But it's actually not that hard to analyze it and figure out the effects of different inputs, especially if they're all normalized. |
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| Yeah. |
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| Yeah. |
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| Um, |
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| Well, using something simpler first I think is probably fine. |
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| but - |
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| Well, this isn't tru- if - if - if you <Emphasis> really </Emphasis> wonder what different if - if - |
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| Yeah. |
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| But - |
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| Decision tree. <Comment Description="anticipating [me013]'s answer"/> <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| Yeah, then a decision tree is really good, but the thing is here he's - he's not - he's not like he has <Emphasis> one </Emphasis> |
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| you know, a bunch of very distinct variables, like pitch and this - he's talking about, like, a- all these cepstral coefficients, and so forth, in which case |
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| Right. |
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| Yeah. |
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| Yeah. |
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| And - |
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| a- a- any reasonable classifier is gonna be a mess, and it's gonna be hard to figure out what - what uh - |
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| Right. |
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| I - I - I will <Uncertain> include </Uncertain> too the - the - the differential <Uncertain> de- </Uncertain> derivates |
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| Yeah. <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> <VocalSound Description="vocal squeaks"/> |
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| Deltas, yeah. So. |
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| I - I mean, I think the other thing that one - I mean, this is, I think a good thing to do, to sort of look at these things at least - |
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| too. |
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| <VocalSound Description="yawn"/> |
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| See what I'd - I'd - Let me tell you what <Emphasis> I </Emphasis> would do. <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
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| I would take |
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| just a <Emphasis> few </Emphasis> features. Instead of taking all the M_F_C_C's, or all the P_L_P's or whatever, |
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| Yeah. |
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| I would just take a <Emphasis> couple. </Emphasis> |
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| O_K? Like - like C_one, C_two, something like that, so that you can <Emphasis> visualize </Emphasis> it. |
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| Yeah. <Comment Description="whispered"/> |
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| and look at these different examples and look at <Emphasis> scatter </Emphasis> plots. |
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| Yeah. |
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| O_K, so before you do - build up any kind of fancy classifiers, |
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| just take a look in two dimensions, at how these things are split apart. |
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| Yeah. |
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| That I think will give you a lot of insight of what is <Emphasis> likely </Emphasis> to be a useful feature when you put it into a more complicated classifier. |
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| Yeah. |
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| And the second thing is, once you actually <Emphasis> get </Emphasis> to the point of building these classifiers, <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
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| what <Emphasis> this </Emphasis> lacks so far is the <Emphasis> temporal </Emphasis> properties. <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
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| So if you're just looking at a frame and a time, you don't know anything about, you know, the structure of it over <Emphasis> time, </Emphasis> and so |
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| Yeah. |
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| you may wanna build <Uncertain NumSyllables="1"> @@ </Uncertain> - build a Markov model of some sort |
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| Context <Uncertain> window </Uncertain>? <Comment Description="anticipating [me013]'s utterance"/> |
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| uh, or - |
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| Yeah. |
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| or else have features that really are based on |
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| Yeah. |
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| um |
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| on - on some bigger chunk of time. <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
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| But I think this is a good place to start. <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
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| But don't uh- anyway, this is my suggestion, is don't just, you know, |
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| Yeah. |
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| throw in twenty features at it, the deltas, and the delta del- and all that |
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| Yeah, yeah. |
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| into some classifier, even - |
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| <Emphasis> even </Emphasis> if it's K_nearest-neighbors, you <Emphasis> still </Emphasis> won't know what it's doing, even - You know it's not a neural net. |
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| Uh, I think to know what it's - to have a better feeling for what it's doing, you wanna <Emphasis> look </Emphasis> at it. |
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| So you wanna look at - at som- some picture that shows you, "Here's - These things uh, uh are - offer some separation." <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
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| Yep. <Comment Description="whispered"/> |
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| And, uh, in L_P_C, uh, the thing to particularly look at is, I think - is something <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
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| like, uh, the residual - the energy in the residual. |
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| Yeah. |
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| Um |
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| Yeah. |
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| So. |
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| Can I ask? It <Emphasis> strikes </Emphasis> me that there's <Emphasis> another </Emphasis> piece of information |
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| S- |
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| um, that |
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| might be useful and that's simply the <Emphasis> transition. </Emphasis> |
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| So, w- if you go from a transition of <Emphasis> silence </Emphasis> to <Emphasis> overlap </Emphasis> versus a transition from <Emphasis> silence </Emphasis> to <Emphasis> speech, </Emphasis> |
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| Yeah, because - |
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| Yeah yeah. |
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| there's gonna be a b- a <Emphasis> big </Emphasis> informative area there, it seems to me. |
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| Yeah. |
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| Yeah. |
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| I - Yeah. But eh I - I - Is my- my - my own vision, <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> of the - of the project. |
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| So, some sort of - <Comment Description="whispered"/> |
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| That's - |
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| Mm-hmm. |
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| I - |
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| eh the - the Meeting Recorder project, for me, |
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| has eh, two |
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| eh, w- has eh several parts, several p- <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> objective eh, because it's a - |
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| Mm-hmm. |
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| a <Uncertain> great </Uncertain> project. But eh, at the first, in the acoustic, eh, eh, parts of the project, |
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| eh I think <Pause/> |
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| you eh - we have eh |
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| two main eh objective. |
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| One - one of these is to - eh to detect the change, the acoustic change. |
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| And <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> for that, if you don't use, eh, |
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| <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> eh, a speech recognizer, |
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| eh broad class, or not broad class |
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| to - to try to - to <Pause/> |
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| to label the different frames, |
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| I think <Pause/> the Ike criterion |
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| <Pause/> or BIC criterion |
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| eh |
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| <Uncertain> O_K. </Uncertain> |
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| will be enough |
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| to detect the change. |
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| And - <Emphasis> Probably. </Emphasis> <Comment Description="a qualifying afterthought"/> |
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| I - I - I - I would like to - to t- prove. |
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| Uh, <Emphasis> probably. </Emphasis> |
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| When you |
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| you have, eh, eh s- eh the transition of speech or - or silence |
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| eh to overlap zone, |
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| this criterion is enough |
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| with - |
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| <Pause/> probably with, eh, this kind of, eh, |
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| eh the - the - the more eh use eh - use eh - <Pronounce Pronunciation=""use-ed""> used </Pronounce> eh |
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| em <Pause/> normal, <Uncertain> regular </Uncertain> eh parameter M_F- <Pronounce> M_F_C_C. </Pronounce> |
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| you - you have to - to - to find - you can find |
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| the - the mark. |
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| You can find the - nnn, the - the acoustic change. |
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| But eh eh |
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| I - I understand that you - your objective is <Pause/> to eh <Emphasis> classify, </Emphasis> |
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| to know that eh that zone |
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| <Pause/> not is <Emphasis> only </Emphasis> <Comment Description="perhaps meaning "is *not only""/> a new zone in the - in the file, |
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| that eh you have eh, but you have to - to - to know that this is <Emphasis> overlap </Emphasis> zone. |
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| because in the future you will eh |
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| Mm-hmm. |
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| try to - to process that zone |
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| with a non-<Uncertain> regular </Uncertain> eh eh speech recognizer model, I suppose. <Pause/> |
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| you - you will pretend <Comment Description=""pretend" means "intend""/> |
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| Mm-hmm. |
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| to - to - to <Emphasis> process </Emphasis> the overlapping z- eh zone |
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| with another kind of algorithm because it's very difficult to - |
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| to - to obtain the <Pronounce Pronunciation=""tractition""> transcription </Pronounce> <Pause/> |
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| from eh using eh eh a regular, normal speech recognizer. |
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| And so |
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| Clustering. <Comment Description="whispered"/> |
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| the system |
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| two models. |
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| A model to detect |
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| more acc- the mor- most accurately possible |
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| that is p- uh, will <Uncertain> be </Uncertain> possible |
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| the mark, the change <Comment Description="rising"/> |
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| O_K. |
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| and another - |
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| another model will <Uncertain NumSyllables="1"> @@ </Uncertain> <Pause/> |
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| or several models, to try s- but - |
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| eh several model- eh robust models, sample models |
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| to try to classify |
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| the difference class. |
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| I'm - I'm - I'm sorry, I didn't <Pronounce> understand </Pronounce> you - what you said. What - what model? |
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| Eh, the - the classifiers |
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| of the- of the n- |
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| to detect the different class |
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| to the different zones |
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| Mm-hmm. |
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| before try to - to recognize, eh |
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| with eh - to transcribe, with eh |
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| a speech recognizer. |
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| <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> So p- |
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| And my idea is to use eh, for example, a neural net |
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| with <Pause/> the <Pause/> information we obtain from this eh - this eh study |
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| Features. <Comment Description="completing [mn005]'s utterance"/> Yeah. |
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| of the parameter with the <Pause/> selected <Pause/> parameter to try to eh - to put |
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| the class of each frame. |
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| Eh <Pause/> for <Pause/> the difference <Pause/> zone |
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| you - you eh, eh <Pause/> |
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| have <Pronounce Pronunciation=""obtain-ed""> obtained </Pronounce> |
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| in the first |
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| Mm-hmm. |
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| eh, step |
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| <Pause/> with the <Pause/> for example, BIC eh, eh <Pause/> criterion |
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| <Uncertain> compare model </Uncertain> |
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| And - |
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| O_K, but, I - I think - in <Emphasis> any </Emphasis> event we're agreed that the first step is - |
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| Yeah. |
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| i- |
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| Because what we had before for - for uh, speaker change detection did not include these overlaps. |
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| Yeah. |
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| So the first thing is for you to - to build up something that will detect the overlaps. |
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| Yeah. |
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| Right? So again, I think |
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| the first thing to do to detect the overlaps is to look at these uh, in - in - in - |
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| Yeah. |
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| Features? <Comment Description="completing [me013]'s utterance, whispered"/> |
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| in - Well, I - |
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| again, the things you've written up there I think are way too - way too big. |
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| Yeah. |
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| O_K? If you're talking about, say, twelfth - twelfth-order uh M_F_C_C's or something like that it's just way too much. You won't be able to <Emphasis> look </Emphasis> at it. |
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| Yeah. |
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| All you'll be able to do is put it into a classifier and see how well it does. |
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| Yeah. |
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| Whereas I think if you have things - if you pick one or two dimensional |
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| things, or three of you have some very fancy display, |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/> |
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| uh, and look at how the - the different classes separate themselves out, you'll have much more insight about what's going on. |
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| <Uncertain> It will be enough. </Uncertain> |
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| Well, you'll - you'll get a <Emphasis> feeling </Emphasis> for what's happening, you know, so if you look at - |
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| Yeah. |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> Suppose you look at first- and second-order cepstral coefficients for some one of these kinds of things |
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| and you find that the first-order is much more effective than the second, |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> and then you look at the third and there's not - and not too much there, |
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| Yeah. |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> you may just take |
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| first- and second-order cepstral coefficients, right? And with L_P_C, I think L_P_C per se isn't gonna tell you much more than - than - than the other, maybe. |
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| Yeah. |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> Uh, and uh on the other hand, the L_P_C residual, the energy in the L_P_C residual, |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
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| will say how well, uh |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
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| the low-order L_P_C <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
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| model's fitting it, which should be <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
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| pretty poorly for two- two or more <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
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| Yeah. |
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| people speaking at the same time, and it should be pretty well, for w- for - for one. |
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| Yeah. |
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| Yeah. |
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| And so <VocalSound Description="breath"/> I - i- again, if you take a few of these things that are - are <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
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| prob- um <Comment Description="speech repair"/> <Pause/> <Emphasis> promising </Emphasis> features and look at them in pairs, <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
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| uh, I think you'll have much more of a sense of "O_K, I now have - |
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| uh, doing a bunch of these analyses, I now have ten likely candidates." |
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| And then you can do decision trees or whatever to see how they combine. |
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| Yeah. |
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| Yeah. |
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| I've got a question. |
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| Yeah. <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> This- |
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| Interesting. <Comment Description="whispered"/> |
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| Hmm. <Comment Description="whispered"/> |
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| Sorry. <Comment Description="taking floor"/> |
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| but eh, eh |
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| eh eh eh I don't <Uncertain> know it </Uncertain> is the first eh way to - to - do that <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| and I would eh like to - to know what eh, your opinion. |
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| Eh |
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| all this study in the f- in the first moment, |
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| I - I w- I - I will pretend to do <Comment Description=""pretend" means "intend""/> with eh eh |
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| equalizes speech. |
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| The - the equalizes speech, the speech eh, the <Emphasis> mixes </Emphasis> of speech. |
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| With - |
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| With what? With what? |
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| Right. Mixed. |
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| <Pause/> the - the mix, <Emphasis> mixed </Emphasis> speech. |
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| "Mixed". Thank you. |
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| Eh, why? Because eh the spectral distortion is - <Comment Description="while laughing"/> <Pause/> |
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| more eh - a lot eh clearer, |
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| very much clearer if we compare with the P_D_A. |
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| Right. |
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| P_D_A speech file is eh - it will be eh difficult. I - |
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| So it's messier. |
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| The - the P_D_A is messier. |
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| Yeah, fff! <Comment Description="interjection, perhaps meaning "very much""/> |
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| Because the n- the noise eh to sp- the signal-to-noise relation is eh - is - is low. |
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| O_K. |
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| <Uncertain> And </Uncertain>, <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> I don't know - |
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| Yeah, I think that that's a good way to start. But. |
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| <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> |
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| I don't know eh uh i- i- that eh the - |
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| <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> <Comment Description="as if to speak"/> |
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| <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> the result of the - of the study eh with eh - with eh this eh - this speech, the mix speech |
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| eh <Pause/> will work <Pause/> <Uncertain> exactly </Uncertain> <Pause/> with the <Pause/> eh P_D_A files. |
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| <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> |
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| It would be interesting in <Emphasis> itself </Emphasis> to see. |
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| Well, I think that would be an interesting <Emphasis> result. </Emphasis> |
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| N- u- |
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| eh What, I - I mean, what- what is the effect |
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| We- |
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| of the low |
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| signal to - to - to noise relation, you know, eh with - |
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| Well, I think - I think - I think it's not a - it's not at all unreasonable. It makes sense to start with the simpler signal |
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| because if you have features which don't - aren't even |
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| helpful |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/> |
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| in the <Emphasis> high </Emphasis> signal-to-noise ratio, then there's no point in putting them into the <Emphasis> low </Emphasis> signal ratio, one would <Emphasis> think, </Emphasis> anyway. <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
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| Yeah. |
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| And so, if you can get - |
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| <Uncertain NumSyllables="3"> @@ </Uncertain> <Comment Description="uncodeable speech fragments"/> |
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| Uh again, my prescription would be |
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| that you would, with a mixed |
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| signal, you would take a collection of possible uh, features |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
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| <Emphasis> look </Emphasis> at them, |
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| look at how these different classes that you've marked, separate themselves, <Comment Description="expansion of preceding clause"/> <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
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| Yeah. |
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| <Segment StartTime="2970.978" EndTime="2973.153" Participant="me013"> |
| and then collect, uh in pairs, |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="2973.428" EndTime="2975.854" Participant="me013"> |
| and then collect ten of them or something, and then proceed <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
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| Yeah. |
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| with a bigger classifier. |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="2977.578" EndTime="2979.620" Participant="me013"> |
| And then if you can get that to work well, |
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| then you go to the other signal. |
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| And then, and you and you know, they won't work as well, but |
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| Yeah. |
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| Right. |
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| how m- you know, how much - <Comment Description="abandoned as clear"/> |
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| Yeah. |
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| <Segment StartTime="2985.560" EndTime="2987.384" Participant="me013"> |
| And then you can re-optimize, and so on. |
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| Yeah. |
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| <Segment StartTime="2987.076" EndTime="2990.228" Participant="me011"> |
| Yeah. But it- I think it would be interesting to try a <Emphasis> couple </Emphasis> with <Emphasis> both. </Emphasis> |
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| Because it - I think it would be <Emphasis> interesting </Emphasis> to see if some features work well with close <Emphasis> mixed, </Emphasis> and - |
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| Hmm. |
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| Ah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah. <Uncertain NumSyllables="2"> @@ </Uncertain> |
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| That's - well, the - |
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| And don't - |
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| <Segment StartTime="2996.652" EndTime="3005.170" Participant="me013"> |
| It - it's - it's true that it also, it could be <VocalSound Description="breath"/> useful to do this exploratory analysis where you're looking at scatter plots and so on in both cases. Sure. |
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| But - |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="3003.024" EndTime="3003.726" Participant="me011"> |
| Mm-hmm. |
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| I - I - I - I think that the - the eh parameter we found, eh, |
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| That's good. <Comment Description="whispered"/> |
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| eh <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> |
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| worked |
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| with both |
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| eh, speech file, but eh what is the - the - |
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| the relation of eh - of the |
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| <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> |
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| performance when eh you use eh the, eh |
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| Hmm. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3019.730" EndTime="3023.503" Participant="mn005"> |
| eh speech file- the P_D_A speech files. Yeah, I don't know. But it - |
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| Right. |
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| <Segment StartTime="3023.503" EndTime="3025.829" Participant="mn005"> |
| I - I - I - I think it will be important. |
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| <Segment StartTime="3026.195" EndTime="3033.710" Participant="mn005"> |
| Because eh people eh eh, different groups eh has eh experience with this eh kind of problem. Is - eh is not easy |
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| eh to - to solve, because if you - <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> I - I - <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="3037.683" EndTime="3042.530" Participant="mn005"> |
| I have seen the - the - the speech file from eh P_D_A, and s- |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3042.530" EndTime="3050.400" Participant="mn005"> |
| some parts is <Comment Description="while laughing"/> very difficult because you - you don't see the spectrum - the spectrogram. <Pause/> <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> <Uncertain> Is </Uncertain> very difficult to apply |
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| <Segment StartTime="3046.850" EndTime="3047.579" Participant="me011"> |
| Right. |
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| <Segment StartTime="3047.920" EndTime="3049.909" Participant="me011"> |
| Yeah, they're totally hidden. |
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| <Segment StartTime="3048.044" EndTime="3048.668" Participant="me013"> |
| Yeah. |
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| Yeah. |
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| eh, eh |
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| a parameter to detect change when you don't see. But I suppose - |
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| <Segment StartTime="3053.311" EndTime="3055.055" Participant="me013"> |
| Well, that - |
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| <Segment StartTime="3055.055" EndTime="3059.397" Participant="me013"> |
| that - that's another reason why very simple features, things like energy, and things - |
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| <Segment StartTime="3059.314" EndTime="3063.513" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah, yeah yeah, I - I - I will put eh the energy here. |
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| things like harmonicity, and <VocalSound Description="breath"/> residual energy are |
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| Are probably better, yep. <Comment Description="completing [me013]'s utterance"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="3063.535" EndTime="3068.317" Participant="me013"> |
| uh, yeah are - are better to use than very complex ones because they'll be more reliable. <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
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| Yeah. |
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| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3068.317" EndTime="3070.583" Participant="me013"> |
| Ch- Chuck was gonna ask something <Uncertain> I guess </Uncertain>. |
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| Yeah. You have a <Uncertain> question </Uncertain>. <Uncertain> Yeah. </Uncertain> |
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| Yeah, I <Pause/> maybe this is a dumb question, but |
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| w- I thought it would be - <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> I thought it would be easier if you used a P_D_A because can't you, couldn't you like use |
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| Nah. |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/> |
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| beam-forming or something to- detect speaker overlaps? |
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| I mean - |
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| <Segment StartTime="3085.880" EndTime="3089.014" Participant="me011"> |
| Well, if you used the <Emphasis> array, </Emphasis> rather than the signal from just <Emphasis> one. </Emphasis> |
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| <Segment StartTime="3088.849" EndTime="3089.258" Participant="me018"> |
| Uh-huh. |
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| <Segment StartTime="3089.466" EndTime="3091.350" Participant="me013"> |
| Yeah, no, you- you're - you're right that - |
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| But that's - |
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| In fact, if we made use of the fact that there are two microphones, you <Emphasis> do </Emphasis> have some location information. |
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| <Segment StartTime="3096.867" EndTime="3098.321" Participant="me013"> |
| which we don't have with the one |
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| <Segment StartTime="3098.321" EndTime="3100.683" Participant="me013"> |
| and - and so that's - |
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| Is that not allowed with this project? |
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| <Segment StartTime="3102.080" EndTime="3106.042" Participant="me013"> |
| Uh, well, no, I mean, we- we don't have any <Emphasis> rules, </Emphasis> r- really. I think - |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="3105.467" EndTime="3108.251" Participant="me018"> |
| But I didn't mean - I w- <Pause/> Given - given the goal. |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="3108.251" EndTime="3110.569" Participant="me018"> |
| I mean, is - is that violation of the - <Comment Description="leading question"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="3109.671" EndTime="3110.192" Participant="mn005"> |
| Oh. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3110.072" EndTime="3114.235" Participant="me013"> |
| I - I think - I think it's - it's - it's a - it's an <Emphasis> additional </Emphasis> interesting question. |
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| No. |
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| <Segment StartTime="3113.986" EndTime="3114.889" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3114.619" EndTime="3117.781" Participant="me013"> |
| I mean, I think you wanna <Emphasis> know </Emphasis> whether you can do it with one, because |
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| <Segment StartTime="3118.598" EndTime="3123.561" Participant="me013"> |
| <Uncertain> you know </Uncertain> it's not necessarily true that every device that you're trying to do this with will have <Emphasis> two. </Emphasis> |
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| <Segment StartTime="3123.602" EndTime="3124.204" Participant="me018"> |
| Mm-hmm |
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| <Segment StartTime="3123.995" EndTime="3124.592" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3124.043" EndTime="3128.520" Participant="me013"> |
| Uh, if, on the other hand, we show that there's a <Emphasis> huge </Emphasis> advantage with two, well then that could be a real <Emphasis> point. </Emphasis> |
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| <Segment StartTime="3128.896" EndTime="3129.576" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah. |
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| <Segment StartTime="3129.180" EndTime="3135.410" Participant="me013"> |
| But, we don't n- even know yet what the effect of detecting - having the ability to detect <Emphasis> overlaps </Emphasis> is. You know, maybe it doesn't <Emphasis> matter </Emphasis> too much. |
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| <Segment StartTime="3134.635" EndTime="3136.022" Participant="me018"> |
| Right. Right. |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3135.494" EndTime="3136.096" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3135.969" EndTime="3140.325" Participant="me013"> |
| So, this is all pretty early stages. But no, you're absolutely right. That's <Pause/> a good thing to consider. |
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| O_K. |
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| <Segment StartTime="3136.290" EndTime="3136.949" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3137.552" EndTime="3138.329" Participant="me018"> |
| <Emphasis> I </Emphasis> see. |
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| <Segment StartTime="3137.602" EndTime="3138.278" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3138.278" EndTime="3139.049" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. |
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| <Segment StartTime="3138.752" EndTime="3139.329" Participant="me018"> |
| O_K. |
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| <Segment StartTime="3139.134" EndTime="3146.072" Participant="fe008"> |
| There - there <Emphasis> is </Emphasis> a complication though, and that is if a person turns their back to the - to the P_D_A, then some of the positional information goes away? |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="3146.220" EndTime="3148.567" Participant="me013"> |
| Well, it - it - it <Emphasis> does, </Emphasis> i- it d- it <Emphasis> does, </Emphasis> but the - |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> And then, |
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| <Segment StartTime="3146.284" EndTime="3146.935" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3146.938" EndTime="3149.735" Participant="me018"> |
| No, it's not - it's not <Emphasis> that </Emphasis> so much as - |
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| <Segment StartTime="3148.994" EndTime="3150.632" Participant="me013"> |
| the - the issue is that - that - |
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| <Segment StartTime="3150.014" EndTime="3152.907" Participant="fe008"> |
| And if they're on the access - <Comment Description="speech error, corrected"/> on the <Emphasis> axis </Emphasis> of it, that was the other thing I was thinking. |
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| <Segment StartTime="3151.708" EndTime="3152.380" Participant="me011"> |
| Mm-hmm. |
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| <Segment StartTime="3152.907" EndTime="3156.274" Participant="fe008"> |
| He - <Emphasis> You </Emphasis> mentioned this last time, that - that if - if you're straight down the midline, |
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| <Segment StartTime="3153.489" EndTime="3155.930" Participant="me011"> |
| Yeah, we hav- need to put it on a little turntable, and - |
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| I - I - <VocalSound Description="breath"/> I - |
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| <Segment StartTime="3156.274" EndTime="3160.460" Participant="fe008"> |
| then - then - the r- the left-right's gonna be different, and - and - and in <Emphasis> his </Emphasis> case, |
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| I - I th- <Pause/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="3157.601" EndTime="3158.761" Participant="me018"> |
| Well, it's- |
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| <Segment StartTime="3158.184" EndTime="3158.900" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3160.424" EndTime="3161.036" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3160.779" EndTime="3169.265" Participant="fe008"> |
| I mean, he's closer to it anyway. It seems to me that - that it's not - a p- uh, you know, it's - this - the topograph- the topology of it is - is a little bit complicated. |
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| <Segment StartTime="3162.189" EndTime="3163.064" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3164.428" EndTime="3166.364" Participant="me011"> |
| But it's another source of information. |
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| I - I - |
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| <Segment StartTime="3166.878" EndTime="3167.440" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3167.274" EndTime="3168.951" Participant="me018"> |
| I don't - I don't know ho- |
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| <Segment StartTime="3167.440" EndTime="3169.331" Participant="mn005"> |
| I - I - I think - Sorry. |
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| <Segment StartTime="3169.331" EndTime="3173.342" Participant="mn005"> |
| I - I - I think because the- the- the distance between the two microph- |
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| <Segment StartTime="3173.523" EndTime="3175.629" Participant="mn005"> |
| eh, microphone, eh, in the P_D_A is |
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| <Segment StartTime="3175.885" EndTime="3177.863" Participant="mn005"> |
| very near. But it's uh - |
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| <Segment StartTime="3177.863" EndTime="3180.172" Participant="mn005"> |
| from my opinion, it's an interesting idea |
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| <Segment StartTime="3180.172" EndTime="3182.589" Participant="mn005"> |
| to - to try to study the <Pronounce Pronunciation="stress on first syllable"> binaural </Pronounce> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3182.589" EndTime="3186.956" Participant="mn005"> |
| eh problem eh, with information, because I - I found |
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| I would guess - |
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| <Segment StartTime="3184.959" EndTime="3185.527" Participant="me011"> |
| Yep. |
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| <Segment StartTime="3187.065" EndTime="3190.999" Participant="mn005"> |
| difference between the - the speech from - from each micro- |
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| <Segment StartTime="3190.999" EndTime="3192.931" Participant="mn005"> |
| eh, in the P_D_A. |
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| <Segment StartTime="3192.643" EndTime="3195.625" Participant="me013"> |
| Yeah, it's <Emphasis> timing </Emphasis> difference. It- it's not amplitude, right? |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3193.664" EndTime="3195.648" Participant="fe008"> |
| Oh yeah! Oh I agree! And we use it <Emphasis> ourselves. </Emphasis> |
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| <Segment StartTime="3195.625" EndTime="3196.071" Participant="me013"> |
| S- |
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| <Segment StartTime="3195.648" EndTime="3197.320" Participant="fe008"> |
| I mean, I know - I n- I know that's a very important cue. <Comment Description="faster tempo"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="3195.955" EndTime="3196.692" Participant="me011"> |
| Yep. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3197.024" EndTime="3197.735" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3197.086" EndTime="3197.708" Participant="me013"> |
| Right. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3197.320" EndTime="3198.687" Participant="fe008"> |
| But I'm just - I'm just saying that |
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| the way we're seated around a table, |
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| is not the same |
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| <Segment StartTime="3202.023" EndTime="3205.691" Participant="fe008"> |
| with respect to each - to each person with respect to the P_D_A, so we're gonna have |
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| <Segment StartTime="3203.181" EndTime="3204.458" Participant="mn005"> |
| No. <Pause/> No. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3204.679" EndTime="3205.523" Participant="mn005"> |
| No, no, no. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3205.691" EndTime="3208.222" Participant="fe008"> |
| a lot of differences with ref- respect to the speaker. |
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| That's - |
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| <Segment StartTime="3207.130" EndTime="3208.990" Participant="me018"> |
| But th- I don't think that <Emphasis> matters, </Emphasis> though. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3207.191" EndTime="3208.518" Participant="me013"> |
| That's fine. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3207.370" EndTime="3208.211" Participant="mn005"> |
| But - |
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| <Segment StartTime="3208.518" EndTime="3210.360" Participant="me013"> |
| That's - So - so i- <Uncertain NumSyllables="3"> @@ </Uncertain> <Comment Description="uncodeable speech fragments"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3210.360" EndTime="3211.448" Participant="me013"> |
| I think the issue is, |
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| "Is there a clean signal coming from only one direction?" |
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| <Segment StartTime="3214.056" EndTime="3214.476" Participant="me018"> |
| Right. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3216.536" EndTime="3217.341" Participant="fe008"> |
| <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3216.660" EndTime="3223.030" Participant="me013"> |
| If it's not coming from just one direction, if it - if th- if there's a broader pattern, it means that it's more likely there's <Pronounce> multiple </Pronounce> people speaking, |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3223.339" EndTime="3223.820" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3223.784" EndTime="3224.830" Participant="me013"> |
| <Emphasis> wherever </Emphasis> they <Emphasis> are. </Emphasis> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3224.606" EndTime="3226.967" Participant="me018"> |
| So it's sort of like how - how <Emphasis> confused </Emphasis> is it |
| </Segment> |
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| Is it a - is it - |
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| <Segment StartTime="3226.800" EndTime="3228.090" Participant="me013"> |
| Yeah, is there a narrow - |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3227.145" EndTime="3227.888" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3227.318" EndTime="3228.514" Participant="me018"> |
| about where the beam is. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3227.676" EndTime="3229.504" Participant="me011"> |
| <VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3228.337" EndTime="3231.694" Participant="me013"> |
| Is there a <Emphasis> narrow </Emphasis> beam pattern or is it a - a <Emphasis> distributed </Emphasis> beam pattern? |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3231.694" EndTime="3236.268" Participant="me013"> |
| So if there's a <Emphasis> distributed </Emphasis> beam pattern, then it looks more like it's - it's uh, multiple people. <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3236.302" EndTime="3236.713" Participant="fe008"> |
| O_K. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3236.797" EndTime="3237.394" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3236.840" EndTime="3238.430" Participant="me013"> |
| Wherever you are, even if he moves around. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3236.949" EndTime="3237.618" Participant="fe008"> |
| <Uncertain> Yeah </Uncertain>. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3238.430" EndTime="3240.653" Participant="fe008"> |
| O_K, it just - it just seemed to me that - |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3241.003" EndTime="3241.492" Participant="fe008"> |
| uh, |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3241.880" EndTime="3245.234" Participant="fe008"> |
| that this isn't the ideal type of separation. I mean, I - I think it's - |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3245.430" EndTime="3246.652" Participant="fe008"> |
| I can see the value o- |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3245.430" EndTime="3248.212" Participant="me013"> |
| Oh, ideal would be to have the wall <Emphasis> filled </Emphasis> with them, but I mean - <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3247.469" EndTime="3249.120" Participant="fe008"> |
| Yeah, O_K. <Comment Description="while laughing"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3247.509" EndTime="3248.377" Participant="me018"> |
| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3247.608" EndTime="3248.166" Participant="mn005"> |
| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3248.166" EndTime="3249.558" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah. Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3248.212" EndTime="3251.700" Participant="me013"> |
| But the thing is just having two mikes - If you looked at that thing on - on Dan's page, |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3251.941" EndTime="3252.626" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3252.250" EndTime="3255.322" Participant="me013"> |
| it was - When - when there were two people speaking, and it looked <Emphasis> really </Emphasis> really different. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3254.551" EndTime="3257.068" Participant="fe008"> |
| <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> Oh yeah yeah. O_K. Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3255.178" EndTime="3255.919" Participant="me011"> |
| Yep. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3255.805" EndTime="3256.618" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3255.984" EndTime="3257.329" Participant="me018"> |
| <Emphasis> What </Emphasis> looked different? |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3257.137" EndTime="3259.375" Participant="me013"> |
| Uh, well, basic- he was looking at correlation. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3258.604" EndTime="3260.850" Participant="me011"> |
| Cross-co- <Pronounce> cross-correlation. </Pronounce> <Comment Description="speech error during an overlap"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3259.375" EndTime="3261.104" Participant="me013"> |
| Just cross-correlation between two sides. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3259.494" EndTime="3260.910" Participant="mn005"> |
| Correlation, yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3261.104" EndTime="3263.365" Participant="me013"> |
| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> So cross-correlation is pretty sensitive. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3261.661" EndTime="3263.070" Participant="me018"> |
| Did- Sorry, b- uh |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3263.390" EndTime="3267.355" Participant="me018"> |
| I'm not sure what Dan's page is that you mean. He was looking at the two - |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3265.123" EndTime="3266.150" Participant="fe008"> |
| Uh, his a web page. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3266.436" EndTime="3271.435" Participant="me013"> |
| You take the signal from the two microphones and you cros- and you cross-correlate them with different lags. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3267.957" EndTime="3268.790" Participant="me011"> |
| Subtract them. <Comment Description="completing [me013]'s utterance"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3268.790" EndTime="3269.793" Participant="me011"> |
| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3270.275" EndTime="3270.804" Participant="me018"> |
| O_K. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3271.052" EndTime="3271.483" Participant="fe008"> |
| Mm-hmm. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3271.413" EndTime="3272.289" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3271.750" EndTime="3272.261" Participant="me018"> |
| Uh-huh. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3271.750" EndTime="3272.282" Participant="me013"> |
| O_K. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3272.253" EndTime="3273.275" Participant="me011"> |
| And you find - |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3272.524" EndTime="3276.360" Participant="me013"> |
| So when one person is speaking, then wherever they happen to be at the point when they're speaking, |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3276.360" EndTime="3280.589" Participant="me013"> |
| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> then there's a pretty big maximum right around that point in the l- in - in the lag. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3276.751" EndTime="3277.858" Participant="me011"> |
| They get peaks. <Comment Description="whispered"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3280.589" EndTime="3282.935" Participant="me013"> |
| So if - at whatever angle you <Emphasis> are, </Emphasis> <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3280.668" EndTime="3282.049" Participant="me018"> |
| O_K. O_K. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3282.340" EndTime="3283.660" Participant="me018"> |
| So - so if there's <Emphasis> two </Emphasis> - |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3282.935" EndTime="3286.535" Participant="me013"> |
| at some lag corresponding to the time difference between the two <Emphasis> there, </Emphasis> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3286.535" EndTime="3289.932" Participant="me013"> |
| you get this boost in the - in - in the cross-correlation value - function. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3288.776" EndTime="3291.980" Participant="me011"> |
| And if there are multiple people <Emphasis> talking, </Emphasis> you'll see two peaks. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3291.365" EndTime="3292.209" Participant="fe008"> |
| <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3291.419" EndTime="3292.419" Participant="me013"> |
| It's spread out. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3292.052" EndTime="3292.715" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3292.209" EndTime="3294.992" Participant="fe008"> |
| Well, let me ask you, if - if both people were over there, |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3294.958" EndTime="3295.409" Participant="me013"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3295.273" EndTime="3295.998" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3295.530" EndTime="3299.879" Participant="fe008"> |
| it would be less effective than if one was there and one was across, catty-corner? No? <Comment Description="surprised"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3299.028" EndTime="3302.033" Participant="me013"> |
| The- the - Oh, I'm sorry, if they're right next to one another? i- i- |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3301.106" EndTime="3304.713" Participant="me018"> |
| If I was - if I was <Emphasis> here </Emphasis> and Morgan was <Emphasis> there </Emphasis> and we were both talking, |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3301.237" EndTime="3304.089" Participant="fe008"> |
| Next - next one over n- over <Comment Description="speech error"/> on this side of the P_ - P_D_A. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3304.089" EndTime="3304.780" Participant="fe008"> |
| There we go. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3304.560" EndTime="3305.196" Participant="me011"> |
| Right. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3304.592" EndTime="3305.883" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah. Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3304.713" EndTime="3305.710" Participant="me018"> |
| it wouldn't work. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3304.780" EndTime="3306.032" Participant="fe008"> |
| Good example, the same one I'm asking. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3305.922" EndTime="3306.766" Participant="me013"> |
| Yeah, e- I see. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3306.032" EndTime="3311.656" Participant="fe008"> |
| Versus you - versus - you know, and we're catty-corner across the table, and I'm farther away from this one and you're farther away from <Emphasis> that </Emphasis> one. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3306.095" EndTime="3306.867" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3306.364" EndTime="3306.813" Participant="me018"> |
| Yes. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3311.031" EndTime="3312.248" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah. Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3311.032" EndTime="3313.026" Participant="me011"> |
| Or - or even if, like, |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3311.656" EndTime="3313.750" Participant="fe008"> |
| It seems like that would be pretty strong. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3312.306" EndTime="3315.329" Participant="me013"> |
| Yeah. Oh, yeah. <Comment Description="creaky voice"/> <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3312.707" EndTime="3313.320" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3313.403" EndTime="3316.793" Participant="me011"> |
| if people were sitting right <Emphasis> across </Emphasis> from each other, you couldn't tell the difference <Emphasis> either. </Emphasis> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3314.422" EndTime="3317.760" Participant="fe008"> |
| Across - the same axis, you don't have as much to differentiate. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3314.636" EndTime="3315.348" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3317.678" EndTime="3318.580" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3317.760" EndTime="3320.514" Participant="fe008"> |
| And so my point was just that it's - it's gonna be differentially - |
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| <Segment StartTime="3317.872" EndTime="3318.501" Participant="me013"> |
| Well, |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3318.501" EndTime="3321.396" Participant="me013"> |
| we d- yeah, we don't have a third dimension there. Yeah, so it's - |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3320.264" EndTime="3321.014" Participant="me011"> |
| Right. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3320.514" EndTime="3322.500" Participant="fe008"> |
| differentially varia- valuable. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3322.770" EndTime="3330.188" Participant="fe008"> |
| I mean, it's not to say - I mean, I <Emphasis> certainly </Emphasis> think it's <Emphasis> extremely </Emphasis> val- <Comment Description="abandoned as clear"/> And we - we humans <Pause/> n- n- <Emphasis> depend </Emphasis> on <Pause/> you know, these - these binaural cues. But. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3327.594" EndTime="3329.317" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah, yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3327.840" EndTime="3330.602" Participant="me013"> |
| But it's almost - but it's almost a - |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3330.602" EndTime="3331.281" Participant="me013"> |
| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3331.281" EndTime="3337.178" Participant="me013"> |
| I think what you're talking about i- there's <Emphasis> two </Emphasis> things. There's a sensitivity issue, and then there's a pathological error uh issue. |
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| <Segment StartTime="3331.290" EndTime="3332.592" Participant="me011"> |
| <Uncertain> Must do. </Uncertain> <Comment Description="completing [me013]'s utterance, whispered"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3336.180" EndTime="3337.724" Participant="mn005"> |
| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3336.861" EndTime="3337.738" Participant="me011"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3337.178" EndTime="3344.710" Participant="me013"> |
| So th- the one where someone is just right directly in line is sort of a <Emphasis> pathological </Emphasis> error. If someone just <Emphasis> happens </Emphasis> to be sitting right there then we won't get good information from it. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3339.657" EndTime="3340.604" Participant="fe008"> |
| Yes. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3340.974" EndTime="3341.724" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3341.160" EndTime="3341.737" Participant="fe008"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3343.420" EndTime="3347.883" Participant="fe008"> |
| O_K. and i- and if there - So it - And if it's the two of you guys on the same side - |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3344.710" EndTime="3349.045" Participant="me013"> |
| Uh, if they're - if they're <Emphasis> close, </Emphasis> it's just a question of the sensitivity. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3348.375" EndTime="3348.820" Participant="me011"> |
| Yep. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3349.149" EndTime="3349.470" Participant="fe008"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3349.470" EndTime="3354.805" Participant="me013"> |
| So if the sensitivity is good enough - and we just - we just don't have enough, uh, experience with it to know how - |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3349.470" EndTime="3349.976" Participant="fe008"> |
| O_K. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3353.997" EndTime="3354.568" Participant="fe008"> |
| Yeah yeah, O_K. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3354.364" EndTime="3355.129" Participant="me011"> |
| But - |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3354.381" EndTime="3355.020" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3354.805" EndTime="3355.654" Participant="me013"> |
| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3354.840" EndTime="3358.756" Participant="fe008"> |
| Yeah. Oh I'm not - I'm not trying to argue against using it, by any means. I just wanted to point out that - |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3355.654" EndTime="3356.445" Participant="me013"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3356.985" EndTime="3357.569" Participant="me013"> |
| Mm-hmm. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3358.756" EndTime="3362.240" Participant="fe008"> |
| that weakness, that it's topo- topologically impossible |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3360.418" EndTime="3363.730" Participant="me011"> |
| And I think Dan is still working on it. So. He actually - |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3362.240" EndTime="3363.939" Participant="fe008"> |
| to get it perfect for everybody. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3364.698" EndTime="3366.533" Participant="me011"> |
| he wrote me about it a little bit, so. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3366.390" EndTime="3368.669" Participant="fe008"> |
| Great. No, I don't mean to discourage that at all. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3367.377" EndTime="3375.332" Participant="me013"> |
| I mean, the other thing you can do - uh, if - I mean, i- We're <Emphasis> assuming </Emphasis> that it would be a big deal just to get somebody - convince somebody to put two microphones in the P_D_A. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3370.287" EndTime="3371.025" Participant="mn005"> |
| <VocalSound Description="cough"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3375.332" EndTime="3377.213" Participant="me013"> |
| But if you h- put a <Emphasis> third </Emphasis> in, <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3376.864" EndTime="3377.523" Participant="mn005"> |
| <VocalSound Description="cough"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3377.213" EndTime="3379.904" Participant="me013"> |
| you could put in the other axis. And then you know - then you're sort of - |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3378.253" EndTime="3379.659" Participant="me018"> |
| Once you got <Emphasis> two </Emphasis> - <Comment Description="leading inference"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3379.038" EndTime="3379.922" Participant="fe008"> |
| Interesting. <Comment Description="whispered"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3379.659" EndTime="3380.739" Participant="me018"> |
| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3379.904" EndTime="3382.269" Participant="me013"> |
| Yeah, then - then you pretty much could cover - |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3380.794" EndTime="3381.440" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3382.370" EndTime="3383.156" Participant="fe008"> |
| Interesting. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3382.370" EndTime="3384.451" Participant="me018"> |
| Well what about just doing it from <Emphasis> these </Emphasis> mikes? |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3384.760" EndTime="3385.282" Participant="me018"> |
| You know? |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3384.760" EndTime="3385.332" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3385.457" EndTime="3385.790" Participant="me011"> |
| Yep. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3385.530" EndTime="3390.689" Participant="mn005"> |
| It will be more interesting to study the P_Z_M because the - the - the separation - I - I think - |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3388.174" EndTime="3389.251" Participant="me013"> |
| Uh |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3389.251" EndTime="3390.410" Participant="me013"> |
| <Uncertain NumSyllables="2"> @@ </Uncertain> <Comment Description="uncodeable speech fragments"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3391.035" EndTime="3391.430" Participant="me013"> |
| <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3391.430" EndTime="3392.371" Participant="me013"> |
| But- but that's - |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3392.018" EndTime="3393.227" Participant="me011"> |
| Then they're much broader. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3393.800" EndTime="3396.633" Participant="me013"> |
| I mean, we can- we'll be - all of this is there for us to study. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3396.212" EndTime="3398.398" Participant="me011"> |
| Yeah, we can do whatever we want. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3396.423" EndTime="3397.001" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3396.633" EndTime="3397.586" Participant="me013"> |
| But - |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3397.586" EndTime="3398.572" Participant="me013"> |
| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="3398.572" EndTime="3403.330" Participant="me013"> |
| but - but the thing is, uh, one of the - at least <Emphasis> one </Emphasis> of the things I was hoping to get at with this is what |
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| Whatever you're interested in. <Comment Description="whispered"/> |
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| can we do with what we <Emphasis> think </Emphasis> would be the normal situation if some people get together and one of them has a P_D_A. |
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| Yeah. |
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| Yeah. Yeah. |
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| <Segment StartTime="3408.431" EndTime="3410.405" Participant="me018"> |
| That's what I was asking about, what are the constraints? |
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| Right. |
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| Yeah. |
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| <Segment StartTime="3409.921" EndTime="3415.774" Participant="me013"> |
| Yeah. Well, that's - that's the constraint of one question that I think both Adam and I were - were - were interested in. |
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| Yeah. |
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| Well - |
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| Mm-hmm. |
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| Yep. |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> Uh, but - you know if you can <Emphasis> instrument </Emphasis> a room, |
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| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3415.909" EndTime="3416.415" Participant="me018"> |
| Mm-hmm. |
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| <Segment StartTime="3419.210" EndTime="3427.848" Participant="me013"> |
| this is really minor league compared with what some people are doing, right? Some people at - at - uh, yeah, at Brown and - and - and - and - at uh <Pause/> |
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| Big micro <Uncertain NumSyllables="2"> @@ </Uncertain> arrays. |
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| Yeah. |
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| Didn't they have something at Cape? <Uncertain> Uh. </Uncertain> |
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| um and at Cape, |
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| <Segment StartTime="3430.210" EndTime="3435.360" Participant="me013"> |
| they both have these, you know, big arrays on the wall. And you know, if you could do that, you've got microphones all over the place |
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| <Emphasis> Very </Emphasis> finely. |
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| <VocalSound Description="sniff"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="3435.830" EndTime="3440.301" Participant="me013"> |
| uh, you know p- <Emphasis> tens </Emphasis> of microphones, and - and uh - <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="3439.102" EndTime="3440.745" Participant="me018"> |
| Oh! I saw a <Emphasis> demo. </Emphasis> |
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| <Uncertain> Oh, right, oh, yeah. </Uncertain> |
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| And if you do that then you can really get very nice uh kind of selectivity - |
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| Yeah. <Comment Description="lengthened"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="3443.543" EndTime="3445.080" Participant="me011"> |
| Oh, I saw one that was like |
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| a <Emphasis> hundred </Emphasis> microphones, a ten by ten array. And they had <Emphasis> very </Emphasis> precision. <Comment Description="speech error"/> - |
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| Yeah. |
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| <Segment StartTime="3446.240" EndTime="3447.089" Participant="mn005"> |
| Hundred. |
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| <Segment StartTime="3446.654" EndTime="3451.868" Participant="me018"> |
| And you could - In a noisy room, they could have all kinds of noises and you can zoom right in on somebody. |
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| Yeah. |
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| Yeah. |
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| Yeah. |
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| Right. |
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| <Segment StartTime="3450.924" EndTime="3452.615" Participant="me013"> |
| Ye- Pretty much. Yeah. |
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| <Segment StartTime="3450.949" EndTime="3452.518" Participant="mn005"> |
| <Uncertain> Very complex, uh - </Uncertain> |
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| <Segment StartTime="3451.577" EndTime="3455.690" Participant="me011"> |
| It was all in software and they - and you could pick out an individual beam and listen to it. |
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| Yeah. |
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| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3455.475" EndTime="3456.787" Participant="me018"> |
| <Emphasis> That </Emphasis> is <Emphasis> cool. </Emphasis> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3455.675" EndTime="3456.514" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3455.690" EndTime="3457.427" Participant="me011"> |
| It was - yeah, it was interesting. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3456.267" EndTime="3457.017" Participant="me013"> |
| <Emphasis> But, </Emphasis> |
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| <Segment StartTime="3457.017" EndTime="3461.167" Participant="me013"> |
| the reason why I haven't focused on that as the fir- my first concern is because |
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| <Segment StartTime="3461.610" EndTime="3468.724" Participant="me013"> |
| um, I'm interested in what happens for people, <Emphasis> random </Emphasis> people out in some random place where they're p- having an impromptu discussion. |
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| <Segment StartTime="3468.724" EndTime="3474.460" Participant="me013"> |
| And you can't just always go, "well, let's go to this heavily instrumented room that we spent tens of thousands of dollars to se- to set up". |
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| Yeah. |
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| Yeah. |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3474.493" EndTime="3475.963" Participant="me018"> |
| No, what you need to do is you'd have |
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| a little fabric thing that you unroll and hang on a wall. It has all these mikes and it has a plug-in jack to the P_D_A. |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| Interesting. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3484.159" EndTime="3490.353" Participant="me013"> |
| The <Emphasis> other </Emphasis> thing actually, that gets at this a little bit of something <Emphasis> else </Emphasis> I'd like to do, is what happens if you have two <Emphasis> P_D_As </Emphasis> <Pause/> and they <Emphasis> communicate </Emphasis> with each other? |
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| <Segment StartTime="3484.418" EndTime="3485.162" Participant="me011"> |
| But <Uncertain> I think </Uncertain> - |
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| Yep. |
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| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3490.353" EndTime="3496.786" Participant="me013"> |
| And then - You know, they're in random positions, the likelihood that - I mean, basically there wouldn't be any - l- likely to be <Emphasis> any </Emphasis> kind of nulls, if you even had <Emphasis> two. </Emphasis> |
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| Ooo! <Comment Description="nonword, interjection, rhymes with "you""/> |
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| That's on my web pages. <Uncertain> Yeah. </Uncertain> |
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| Network! |
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| <Segment StartTime="3495.953" EndTime="3496.825" Participant="fe008"> |
| Interesting. |
| </Segment> |
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| If you had three or four it's - |
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| Though - |
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| <Segment StartTime="3498.072" EndTime="3499.171" Participant="fe008"> |
| Interesting. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3498.147" EndTime="3504.040" Participant="me011"> |
| All sorts of interesting things you can <Emphasis> do </Emphasis> with that, I mean, not only can you do <Emphasis> microphone </Emphasis> arrays, but you can do all sorts of um |
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| Yeah. <Comment Description="relinquishing the floor to [me011]"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="3501.895" EndTime="3502.498" Participant="fe008"> |
| Hmm. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3504.040" EndTime="3504.665" Participant="me011"> |
| <Emphasis> multi-band </Emphasis> |
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| <Segment StartTime="3505.093" EndTime="3505.430" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah. |
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| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3505.430" EndTime="3506.186" Participant="me011"> |
| as well. |
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| Ah! |
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| <Segment StartTime="3506.186" EndTime="3507.686" Participant="me011"> |
| So it's - it <Emphasis> would </Emphasis> be neat. |
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| I still like my rug on the wall idea, so if anybody patents that, then - <Comment Description="leading inference"/> |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="3508.506" EndTime="3510.931" Participant="me011"> |
| But - I think - in terms of - |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3508.992" EndTime="3512.083" Participant="fe008"> |
| Well, you could have <Emphasis> strips </Emphasis> that you <Emphasis> stick </Emphasis> to your <Emphasis> clothing. </Emphasis> <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| Yeah. <Comment Description="while laughing"/> |
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| Yeah! |
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| Hats? |
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| <Segment StartTime="3512.540" EndTime="3514.680" Participant="me011"> |
| In terms of the <Emphasis> research </Emphasis> <Pause/> th- <Emphasis> research, </Emphasis> it's really - |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="3515.060" EndTime="3517.432" Participant="me011"> |
| it's <Emphasis> whatever </Emphasis> the person who is doing the <Emphasis> research </Emphasis> <Emphasis> wants </Emphasis> to <Emphasis> do. </Emphasis> |
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| Shirts. |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="3517.830" EndTime="3521.494" Participant="me011"> |
| So if - if Jose is <Emphasis> interested </Emphasis> in that, that's <Emphasis> great. </Emphasis> But if - if |
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| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
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| he's not, that's great <Emphasis> too. </Emphasis> |
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| Yeah. <Comment Description="while laughing"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3523.339" EndTime="3524.480" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah, yeah. |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3524.201" EndTime="3525.640" Participant="me013"> |
| Um, I - i- I - i- |
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| <Segment StartTime="3525.640" EndTime="3529.041" Participant="me013"> |
| I would actually kind of like us to wind it down, see if we can still |
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| <Segment StartTime="3529.520" EndTime="3531.477" Participant="me013"> |
| get to the end of the, uh, <Emphasis> birthdays </Emphasis> thing there. |
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| Catch some tea? <Comment Description="completing [me013]'s utterance"/> |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/> So th- |
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| Um. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3532.618" EndTime="3538.007" Participant="me011"> |
| Well, I had a couple things that I <Emphasis> did </Emphasis> wanna bring out. One is, do we need to sign new - these again? |
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| <Segment StartTime="3533.953" EndTime="3534.695" Participant="me013"> |
| O_K. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3536.421" EndTime="3539.560" Participant="fe008"> |
| Well, it's slightly different. So I - I would say it would be a good idea. |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/> |
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| <Uncertain> Cuz </Uncertain> - it - it's slightly different. |
| </Segment> |
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| Are they new? |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3541.193" EndTime="3541.620" Participant="me011"> |
| Yep. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3541.840" EndTime="3542.111" Participant="me018"> |
| Oh. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3542.183" EndTime="3547.485" Participant="me013"> |
| Oh, this <Emphasis> morning </Emphasis> we didn't <Emphasis> sign </Emphasis> anything cuz we said that if anybody had <Emphasis> signed </Emphasis> it already, we didn't <Emphasis> have </Emphasis> to. |
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| <NonVocalSound Description="mike spike"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="3546.314" EndTime="3550.234" Participant="me011"> |
| Yeah, I - I should've checked with Jane first, but the ch- the <Emphasis> form </Emphasis> has changed. |
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| It's slightly different. |
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| <NonVocalSound Description="scratching sound"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="3550.451" EndTime="3552.037" Participant="me013"> |
| Ah-oh. <Comment Description="seeming merging of "ah" and "oh" interjections"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="3550.719" EndTime="3553.686" Participant="me011"> |
| So we may wanna have everyone sign the new form. |
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| O_K. |
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| I had to make one - <Comment Description="likely completion is "change""/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="3553.686" EndTime="3558.774" Participant="me011"> |
| Um, I had some things I wanted to talk about with the <Emphasis> thresholding </Emphasis> stuff I'm doing. |
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| <Segment StartTime="3558.774" EndTime="3561.197" Participant="me011"> |
| But, if we're in a <Emphasis> hurry, </Emphasis> we can put that off. |
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| Um |
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| <Segment StartTime="3562.530" EndTime="3565.534" Participant="me011"> |
| and then also <Emphasis> anonymity, </Emphasis> how we want to <Emphasis> anonymize </Emphasis> the data. |
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| <Segment StartTime="3565.992" EndTime="3566.528" Participant="fe008"> |
| Well, should I - |
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| <Segment StartTime="3566.040" EndTime="3566.773" Participant="me011"> |
| Uh. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3566.528" EndTime="3570.797" Participant="fe008"> |
| I mean I have some results to present, but I mean I guess we won't have time to do that this time. |
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| <Segment StartTime="3570.797" EndTime="3574.408" Participant="fe008"> |
| But it seems like um the anonymization is uh, |
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| <Segment StartTime="3574.408" EndTime="3577.408" Participant="fe008"> |
| is <Emphasis> also </Emphasis> something that we might wanna discuss in greater length. |
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| Um. I mean, wha- what - |
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| <Segment StartTime="3579.507" EndTime="3586.443" Participant="fe008"> |
| If - if we're about to wind down, I think - what <Emphasis> I </Emphasis> would prefer is that we uh, delay the anonymization thing till next week, and I would like to present |
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| the results that I have on the overlaps. |
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| We still have to do this, too, right? |
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| Right. |
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| Digits? |
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| Right. |
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| <Segment StartTime="3593.520" EndTime="3595.235" Participant="me011"> |
| No- well, we don't <Emphasis> have </Emphasis> to do digits. |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> Well, <Uncertain> why don't we </Uncertain> - |
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| Uh, |
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| so |
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| O_K. <Uncertain NumSyllables="4"> @@ </Uncertain> <Comment Description="uncodeable speech fragments"/> |
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| It sounds like u- |
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| uh, there were - there were a couple technical things people would like to talk about. Why don't we just take a couple minutes to - to <Emphasis> briefly </Emphasis> <Comment Description="rising"/> |
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| do them, and then - and then - and then - and then - and then we - |
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| O_K, go ahead, Jane. |
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| I'd - Oh, I'd prefer to have more <Emphasis> time </Emphasis> for my results. e- |
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| Could I do that next week maybe? |
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| O_K. |
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| Oh, yeah. Sure. |
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| O_K, that's what I'm asking. |
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| Oh yeah, yeah. |
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| And I think the anonymization, if y- if you want to proceed with that now, I just think that that's - that's a discussion which <Emphasis> also </Emphasis> |
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| n- |
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| really deserves a lo- a - you know, more that just a minute. I really do think that, because you raised a couple of possibilities yourself, you and I have discussed it previously, and there are different ways that people approach it, e- and I think we should - |
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| We could s- |
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| Mm-hmm. |
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| Alright. We're - we're just - |
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| We're getting enough data now that I'd sort of like to do it now, before I get overwhelmed with - once we decide how to do it |
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| Well, O_K. |
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| <Pause/> going and dealing with it. |
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| <Pause/> <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> It's just - Yeah. O_K. |
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| I - I'll give you the short version, but I do think it's an issue that we can't resolve in five minutes. |
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| Mm-hmm. |
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| O_K, so - |
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| the - the short thing is |
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| um, we have |
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| uh, tape recording- uh, uh, sorry, digitized recor- recordings. |
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| Those we won't be able to change. If someone says "Hey, Roger so-and-so". |
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| Right. |
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| So that's gonna stay that person's name. |
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| Yep. |
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| <Pause/> Now, in terms of like the <Emphasis> transcript, </Emphasis> |
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| the question becomes what symbol are you gonna put in there for everybody's name, |
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| and whether you're gonna put it <Emphasis> in </Emphasis> the text where he says "Hey Roger" or are we gonna put that person's anonymized name in instead? |
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| No, because <Pronounce> then </Pronounce> <Emphasis> that </Emphasis> would give you a <Emphasis> mapping, </Emphasis> |
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| and you don't <Emphasis> wanna </Emphasis> have a mapping. |
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| O_K, so first decision is, we're gonna anonymize the same name |
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| for the speaker identifier and also in the text whenever the speaker's name is mentioned. |
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| <Emphasis> No. </Emphasis> |
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| I don't - |
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| Because that would give you a <Emphasis> mapping </Emphasis> between the speaker's <Emphasis> real </Emphasis> name and the <Emphasis> tag </Emphasis> we're using, |
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| I - I don't think you understood what I - what I said. So - |
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| and we don't want - |
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| O_K. |
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| uh, so in - within the context of an utterance, someone says "So, Roger, what do <Emphasis> you </Emphasis> think?" |
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| O_K. |
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| Then, uh, it seems to me that - |
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| Well, maybe I - uh it seems to me that if you change the name, |
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| the transcript's gonna disagree with the audio, and you won't be able to use that. |
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| We don't - we wanna - we ha- we want the transcript to be "<Emphasis> Roger </Emphasis>". |
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| Right, you don't wanna do that. |
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| Because if we made the - the <Emphasis> transcript </Emphasis> be the <Emphasis> tag </Emphasis> that we're using for Roger, |
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| Yeah. |
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| someone who had the <Emphasis> transcript </Emphasis> and the <Emphasis> audio </Emphasis> would then have a <Emphasis> mapping </Emphasis> |
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| between the <Emphasis> anonymized </Emphasis> name and the <Emphasis> real </Emphasis> name, and we wanna <Emphasis> avoid </Emphasis> that. |
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| O_K, well, but then |
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| there's this issue of if we're gonna use this for a <Emphasis> discourse </Emphasis> type of thing, |
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| then - |
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| and, you know, Liz was mentioning stuff in <Uncertain> a </Uncertain> previous meeting about gaze direction and who's - who's the <Emphasis> addressee </Emphasis> and all, |
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| Oh. |
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| then to have "Roger" be the thing in the <Emphasis> utterance </Emphasis> and then actually have the <Emphasis> speaker </Emphasis> identifier who <Emphasis> was </Emphasis> "Roger" be "<Emphasis> Frank </Emphasis>", |
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| that's going to be <Emphasis> really </Emphasis> <Emphasis> confusing </Emphasis> and make it pretty much useless for discourse analysis. |
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| <Pronounce Pronunciation=""eusch""> Ugh! </Pronounce> <Comment Description="interjection"/> That's a good point. |
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| <Pause/> Now, if you want to, you know, I mean, in some cases, I - I - I know that Susan Ervin-Tripp in some of hers, uh, actually did do uh, um, a filter of the s- signal where the person's name was mentioned, except |
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| <Uncertain> Yeah </Uncertain> |
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| And - and I - cer- and I - So, I mean, the question then becomes one level <Emphasis> back. </Emphasis> |
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| Um, how important <Emphasis> is </Emphasis> it for a person to be identified by first name versus <Emphasis> full </Emphasis> name? |
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| Well, |
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| on the one hand, |
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| uh, it's not a full identity, we're taking all these precautions, |
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| um |
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| and <Emphasis> they'll </Emphasis> be taking precautions, which are probably even the more <Emphasis> important </Emphasis> ones, to - they'll be reviewing the transcripts, to see if there's something they don't like - <Comment Description="part of a list, abandoned as clear"/> O_K. |
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| So, maybe, uh, maybe that's enough protection. On the other hand, |
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| this is a small - this is a small pool, and people who say things about topic X_ |
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| e- who are researchers and well-known in the field, they'll be identifiable and simply from the - from the first name. |
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| However, taking one step <Emphasis> further </Emphasis> back, they'd be identifiable <Emphasis> anyway, </Emphasis> even if we <Emphasis> changed </Emphasis> all the names. |
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| Right. |
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| Mmm. |
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| So, is it really, um - <Comment Description="abandoned as clear"/> |
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| You know? |
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| Now, in terms of like - so I - I did some results, which I'll report on n- next time, |
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| which <Emphasis> do </Emphasis> mention individual speakers by <Emphasis> name. </Emphasis> |
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| Mm-hmm. |
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| Now, <Emphasis> there, </Emphasis> the Human Subjects Committee is very precise. |
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| You don't wanna mention subjects by name |
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| in published reports. |
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| Now, it would be very <Emphasis> possible </Emphasis> for me to take those data |
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| put them in a - in a study, and just change everybody's name for the purpose of the publication. |
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| Yeah, once you get to the publication you can certainly do that. You can go, you know, uh, "Z_" <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> uh, for instance. Uh. |
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| <Pause/> And someone who looked - |
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| Yeah, exactly. Doesn't matter if - |
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| Um, yeah, I mean, t- it doesn't - |
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| I mean, I'm not knowledgeable about this, but it certainly doesn't bother <Emphasis> me </Emphasis> to have someone's first name in - in the - in the transcript. |
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| That's the same thing you saw. |
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| O_K. <Uncertain NumSyllables="3"> @@ </Uncertain> |
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| Uh, I think - you don't wanna have their <Emphasis> full </Emphasis> name to be uh, |
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| Yeah, and - and in the form that they sign, |
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| listed. And so - |
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| Yeah. |
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| it does say "your first name may arise in the course of the meetings". |
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| Well - |
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| Yeah. |
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| So again, th- the issue is if you're tracking discourse things, you know, if someone says, uh, uh, "Frank said this" and then you wanna connect it to something later, you've gotta have this part where that's "Frank colon". Right? |
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| Or "your name". |
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| Yeah, shoot! <Comment Description="interjection"/> |
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| Yeah, and - and - you know, even more i- i- uh, immediate than that just |
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| being able to, |
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| uh - |
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| Well, it just seems like to <Pronounce> track </Pronounce> - track from one utterance to the next utterance who's speaking and who's speaking |
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| to whom, cuz that can be important. S- |
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| Mm-hmm. |
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| i- You know, "You raised the point, So-and-so", it's be kind of nice to |
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| Yeah. |
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| Shoot! <Comment Description="interjection"/> |
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| be able to know who "<Emphasis> you </Emphasis>" was. And ac- <Comment Description="faster tempo"/> |
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| I - I'm thinking too much. |
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| and actually you remember - <Emphasis> furthermore, </Emphasis> you remember last time we had this discussion of how |
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| you know, I was sort of avoiding mentioning people's names, |
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| <Pause/> and - and it was - and we made the decision that was kind of artificial. Well, I mean, if we're going to step in after the fact and change people's names in the <Emphasis> transcript, </Emphasis> we've basically done something one step <Emphasis> worse. </Emphasis> |
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| Yeah, I was <Emphasis> too. </Emphasis> Yeah. |
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| Yep. |
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| Yeah. |
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| Yeah. |
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| Well, I would sug- I - I - <Emphasis> don't </Emphasis> wanna change the names in the transcript, but that's because I'm focused so much on the <Emphasis> acoustics </Emphasis> instead of on the <Emphasis> discourse, </Emphasis> and so I think that's a <Emphasis> really </Emphasis> good <Emphasis> point. </Emphasis> |
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| Misleading. |
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| Yeah. |
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| You're <Emphasis> right, </Emphasis> this is going to require more <Emphasis> thought. </Emphasis> |
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| Yeah. |
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| L- let me just back up this to make a - a brief comment about the, uh, what we're covering in the meeting. |
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| Uh I realize when you're doing this that uh - |
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| I mean, I didn't realize that you had a bunch of things that you wanted to talk about. |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> Uh, and so, uh - |
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| and so I was proceeding some- somewhat at random, |
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| frankly. So I think what would be helpful would be |
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| uh, |
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| i- |
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| and I'll - I'll mention this to - to Liz and Andreas too, |
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| that um, |
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| before the meeting if anybody could send me, any - any, uh, uh, |
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| <Segment StartTime="3934.510" EndTime="3936.960" Participant="me013"> |
| agenda items that they were interested in |
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| O_K. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3936.816" EndTime="3937.440" Participant="fe008"> |
| Sure. |
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| <Segment StartTime="3936.960" EndTime="3939.510" Participant="me013"> |
| and I'll - I'll take the role of organizing them |
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| uh, into - into the agenda, |
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| <Segment StartTime="3941.137" EndTime="3943.918" Participant="me013"> |
| but I'd be <Emphasis> very </Emphasis> pleased to have everyone else <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="3943.918" EndTime="3947.208" Participant="me013"> |
| completely make up the agenda. I've no desire to - <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> to make it up, but |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="3947.208" EndTime="3951.290" Participant="me013"> |
| if - if no one's told me things, then I'm just proceeding from my - my guesses, and - |
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| <Segment StartTime="3951.290" EndTime="3952.124" Participant="me013"> |
| and uh, |
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| <Segment StartTime="3952.124" EndTime="3955.994" Participant="me013"> |
| and i- ye- yeah, I - I'm sorry it ended up with your- out your time to - |
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| <Segment StartTime="3953.474" EndTime="3954.304" Participant="me011"> |
| Mm-hmm. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3953.494" EndTime="3955.710" Participant="fe008"> |
| Oh, it's not a problem. Not a problem. Yeah. |
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| <Segment StartTime="3956.550" EndTime="3962.450" Participant="me013"> |
| I mean, I'm just always asking Jose what he's doing, you know, and - <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> and so it's - <Pause/> There's uh, there's obviously other things going on. |
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| <Segment StartTime="3956.644" EndTime="3959.604" Participant="fe008"> |
| I just - I just couldn't do it in two minutes. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3962.450" EndTime="3965.952" Participant="me011"> |
| How will we - how would the person who's doing the <Emphasis> transcript </Emphasis> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3966.420" EndTime="3968.850" Participant="me011"> |
| even <Emphasis> know </Emphasis> who they're <Emphasis> talking </Emphasis> about? |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3970.340" EndTime="3971.537" Participant="me011"> |
| Do you know what I'm saying? |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3971.184" EndTime="3973.609" Participant="me018"> |
| "The person who's doing the transcript -" <Comment Description="echoing [me011]'s phrase"/> The <Emphasis> I_B_M </Emphasis> people? |
| </Segment> |
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| <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3973.930" EndTime="3974.382" Participant="me011"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3974.920" EndTime="3978.292" Participant="me011"> |
| I mean, so- so - how is that information gonna get labeled <Emphasis> anyway? </Emphasis> |
| </Segment> |
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| How do you mean, who - what they're - who they're talking about? |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3980.221" EndTime="3981.194" Participant="fe008"> |
| How do you mean? |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3980.296" EndTime="3984.788" Participant="me011"> |
| I mean, so if I'm saying in a meeting, "oh and <Emphasis> Bob, </Emphasis> by the way, wanted - wanted to do <Emphasis> so-and-so </Emphasis>", |
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| <Segment StartTime="3986.770" EndTime="3988.881" Participant="me018"> |
| They're just gonna write "<Emphasis> Bob </Emphasis>" on it or do <Uncertain NumSyllables="3"> @@ </Uncertain> - |
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| <Segment StartTime="3987.073" EndTime="3987.817" Participant="me011"> |
| if you're doing - |
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| <Segment StartTime="3988.179" EndTime="3989.968" Participant="me011"> |
| Yeah, <Uncertain> @@ </Uncertain> they're just gonna write "Bob". |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3990.150" EndTime="3991.021" Participant="me011"> |
| And so. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="3990.768" EndTime="3992.378" Participant="fe008"> |
| They won't be able to change it <Emphasis> themselves. </Emphasis> |
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| If you're - if you're doing <Emphasis> discourse </Emphasis> analysis, <Pause/> a- |
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| What ar- how are they gonna do <Emphasis> any </Emphasis> of this? |
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| <VocalSound Description="outbreath"/> |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="3997.504" EndTime="4001.499" Participant="fe008"> |
| Well, I - I'm betting we're gonna have huge chunks that are just totally un- |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> Yeah, really. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="4001.379" EndTime="4004.875" Participant="me013"> |
| I mean, they're gonna say speaker-one, or speaker-two or speaker- I mean I - I - |
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| untranscribable by <Pronounce Pronunciation=""em""> them. </Pronounce> |
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| <Segment StartTime="4004.708" EndTime="4007.313" Participant="me011"> |
| Well, the <Emphasis> current </Emphasis> one they don't do <Emphasis> speaker </Emphasis> identity. |
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| <Uncertain> Yeah, I think - </Uncertain> |
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| <Segment StartTime="4005.157" EndTime="4006.308" Participant="me018"> |
| They can't do that. |
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| <Segment StartTime="4007.780" EndTime="4012.297" Participant="me011"> |
| because in NaturallySpeaking, or, <Emphasis> excuse </Emphasis> me, in <Emphasis> ViaVoice, </Emphasis> it's only one <Emphasis> person. </Emphasis> |
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| <Segment StartTime="4012.860" EndTime="4016.855" Participant="me011"> |
| and so in their <Emphasis> current </Emphasis> conventions there <Emphasis> are </Emphasis> no multiple speaker <Emphasis> conventions. </Emphasis> |
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| <Segment StartTime="4016.665" EndTime="4017.339" Participant="fe008"> |
| <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> <Comment Description="as if to speak"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="4016.665" EndTime="4020.271" Participant="me013"> |
| So it may just be one long transcript of a bunch of words. |
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| Oh. <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> I think that - My understanding from Yen- |
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| Yep. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="4021.750" EndTime="4025.367" Participant="fe008"> |
| Is it Yen-Ching? Is that how you pronounce her name? Oh, uh <Emphasis> Yu-Ching? </Emphasis> Yu-Ching? <Comment Description="embedded"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="4023.307" EndTime="4025.804" Participant="me013"> |
| Uh <Pause/> Yu-Ching, Yu-Ching. Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="4024.626" EndTime="4025.937" Participant="me011"> |
| y- Yu-Ching. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="4025.367" EndTime="4030.553" Participant="fe008"> |
| was that um, they will - that they will adopt the - part of the conventions that - that we discussed, |
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| <Segment StartTime="4030.553" EndTime="4033.040" Participant="fe008"> |
| where they put speaker identifier down. |
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| <Segment StartTime="4033.040" EndTime="4036.129" Participant="fe008"> |
| But, you know, h- they won't know these people, so I think |
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| <Segment StartTime="4036.129" EndTime="4039.118" Participant="fe008"> |
| it's - Well, they'll - they'll adopt some convention but we haven't specified |
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| <Segment StartTime="4039.234" EndTime="4040.502" Participant="fe008"> |
| to them - So they'll do something |
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| <Segment StartTime="4040.502" EndTime="4048.204" Participant="fe008"> |
| like speaker-one, speaker-two, is what <Emphasis> I </Emphasis> bet, but I'm betting there'll be huge variations in the accuracy of - of their labeling the speakers. We'll have to review the transcripts in any case. |
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| <Segment StartTime="4047.622" EndTime="4050.600" Participant="me013"> |
| And it - and it may very <Emphasis> well </Emphasis> be - I mean, since |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="4050.860" EndTime="4055.800" Participant="me013"> |
| they're not going to sit there and - and - and worry ab- about, uh, it being the same speaker, |
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| <Segment StartTime="4055.271" EndTime="4055.717" Participant="fe008"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="4055.800" EndTime="4064.947" Participant="me013"> |
| they may very <Emphasis> well </Emphasis> go the - eh the - the first se- the first time it changes to another speaker, that'll be speaker-<Emphasis> two. </Emphasis> And the next time it'll be speaker-<Emphasis> three </Emphasis> even if it's actually speaker-<Emphasis> one. </Emphasis> |
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| <Segment StartTime="4061.118" EndTime="4062.524" Participant="fe008"> |
| You know - Uh-huh. <Comment Description="relinquishes floor"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="4063.995" EndTime="4066.790" Participant="fe008"> |
| You know, that would be a very practical solution on their part. |
| </Segment> |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="4066.635" EndTime="4068.188" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah. It's a good idea. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="4066.790" EndTime="4069.916" Participant="fe008"> |
| And - and - but then we would need to label it. And that's O_K. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="4066.976" EndTime="4067.492" Participant="me013"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="4068.664" EndTime="4070.005" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah. <Uncertain> Yeah, I think - </Uncertain> |
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| <Segment StartTime="4068.706" EndTime="4072.548" Participant="me011"> |
| Yeah we - we can probably regenerate it pretty easily from the close-talking mikes. |
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| <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="4071.771" EndTime="4075.149" Participant="fe008"> |
| Yes, I was thinking, the temp- the time values of when it changes. |
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| <Segment StartTime="4072.472" EndTime="4073.373" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="4072.742" EndTime="4073.618" Participant="me013"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="4073.279" EndTime="4074.567" Participant="me011"> |
| So. But I mean that doesn't - |
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| <Segment StartTime="4073.700" EndTime="4074.360" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="4075.698" EndTime="4076.013" Participant="me013"> |
| But that - |
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| <Segment StartTime="4075.740" EndTime="4077.800" Participant="fe008"> |
| That'd be very efficient. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="4076.155" EndTime="4077.888" Participant="me011"> |
| This doesn't answer the - the <Emphasis> question. </Emphasis> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="4078.381" EndTime="4078.830" Participant="me011"> |
| The p- |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="4078.830" EndTime="4082.000" Participant="me011"> |
| It's a good point, "which - what do you do for discourse tracking?" |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="4079.378" EndTime="4082.310" Participant="mn005"> |
| Because y- y- you don't know to know, eh - |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="4082.299" EndTime="4082.884" Participant="me011"> |
| Hmm. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="4082.310" EndTime="4087.526" Participant="mn005"> |
| you don't need to know what i- what is the iden- identification of the - of the speakers. You only |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="4087.526" EndTime="4088.813" Participant="mn005"> |
| eh want to know - |
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| <Segment StartTime="4087.942" EndTime="4091.470" Participant="me011"> |
| For - for <Emphasis> acoustics </Emphasis> you don't but for <Emphasis> discourse </Emphasis> you do. |
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| <Segment StartTime="4088.734" EndTime="4090.029" Participant="me013"> |
| Well, you <Emphasis> do. </Emphasis> |
| </Segment> |
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| <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="4091.143" EndTime="4092.413" Participant="mn005"> |
| Ah, for discourse, yeah. |
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| <Segment StartTime="4091.932" EndTime="4100.654" Participant="me013"> |
| Yeah. If - if - if - if someone says, uh, "what - what is Jose <Emphasis> doing? </Emphasis>" and then Jose <Emphasis> says </Emphasis> something, you need to know that that was Jose <Emphasis> responding. </Emphasis> |
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| <Segment StartTime="4092.413" EndTime="4093.079" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="4093.079" EndTime="4093.638" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="4094.031" EndTime="4096.266" Participant="mn005"> |
| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> Yeah, yeah. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="4096.527" EndTime="4097.838" Participant="mn005"> |
| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="4098.007" EndTime="4099.113" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="4099.436" EndTime="4099.968" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="4100.654" EndTime="4103.343" Participant="me013"> |
| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> Uh, so. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="4100.720" EndTime="4101.335" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah, |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="4101.633" EndTime="4102.498" Participant="fe008"> |
| Mm-hmm. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="4101.727" EndTime="4102.871" Participant="mn005"> |
| <Uncertain NumSyllables="1"> @@ </Uncertain> Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="4102.003" EndTime="4103.851" Participant="me011"> |
| <Pronounce Pronunciation=""usch""> Ugh, </Pronounce> <Comment Description="interjection"/> that's a problem. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="4102.882" EndTime="4111.257" Participant="fe008"> |
| Unless we adopt a different set of norms which is to not id- to make a point of <Emphasis> not </Emphasis> identifying people by name, which then leads you to be more contextually ex- explicit. |
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| <Segment StartTime="4111.410" EndTime="4112.264" Participant="me018"> |
| <Emphasis> That </Emphasis> would be hard. |
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| <Segment StartTime="4112.380" EndTime="4119.070" Participant="fe008"> |
| Well, people are very flexible. You know? I mean, so when we did this las- last week, I felt that you know, now, Andreas may, uh, |
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| <Uncertain NumSyllables="2"> @@ </Uncertain> <Comment Description="uncodeable speech fragments"/> |
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| uh, he - he - |
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| <Segment StartTime="4120.728" EndTime="4124.684" Participant="fe008"> |
| i- sometimes people think of something else at the same time and they <Emphasis> miss </Emphasis> a sentence or something, and - |
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| <Segment StartTime="4124.684" EndTime="4138.555" Participant="fe008"> |
| and because he <Emphasis> missed </Emphasis> something, then he missed the r- the initial introduction of who we were <Emphasis> talking </Emphasis> about, and was - was unable to do the <Emphasis> tracking. </Emphasis> But I felt like <Emphasis> most </Emphasis> of us were doing the tracking and knew who we were talking about and we just weren't mentioning the <Emphasis> name. </Emphasis> So, people are really flexible. |
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| <Segment StartTime="4129.802" EndTime="4130.344" Participant="me018"> |
| Mm-hmm. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="4136.881" EndTime="4137.534" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="4138.214" EndTime="4140.458" Participant="me018"> |
| But, you know, like, at the beginning of <Emphasis> this </Emphasis> meeting - |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="4140.458" EndTime="4147.221" Participant="me018"> |
| Or, <Emphasis> you </Emphasis> I think said, <Pause/> you know, or s- <Emphasis> Liz, </Emphasis> said something about um, uh, "is <Emphasis> Mari </Emphasis> gonna use the <Emphasis> equipment? </Emphasis>" |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="4147.670" EndTime="4148.220" Participant="fe008"> |
| Yeah? |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="4147.670" EndTime="4149.076" Participant="me018"> |
| I mean, <Emphasis> how </Emphasis> would you <Emphasis> say </Emphasis> that? |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="4150.190" EndTime="4151.630" Participant="me018"> |
| I mean, you <Emphasis> have </Emphasis> to really <Emphasis> think, </Emphasis> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="4150.257" EndTime="4151.848" Participant="me011"> |
| if you wanted to <Pronounce> anonymize. </Pronounce> <Comment Description="completing [me018]'s question"/> |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="4152.163" EndTime="4154.607" Participant="me018"> |
| you know, about what you're <Emphasis> saying </Emphasis> bef- |
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| <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> <Comment Description="as if to speak"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="4152.599" EndTime="4153.458" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="4154.249" EndTime="4158.323" Participant="me013"> |
| "Is you know who up in you know where?" Right? Use the - <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="4154.799" EndTime="4159.540" Participant="mn005"> |
| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="4156.238" EndTime="4157.211" Participant="me018"> |
| Yeah. Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="4156.317" EndTime="4157.609" Participant="me011"> |
| Mm-hmm. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="4156.317" EndTime="4159.390" Participant="fe008"> |
| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="4157.858" EndTime="4161.094" Participant="me018"> |
| I think it would be really <Emphasis> hard </Emphasis> if we made a policy where we didn't say <Emphasis> names, </Emphasis> |
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| <Segment StartTime="4159.471" EndTime="4164.305" Participant="me011"> |
| Yeah, <Emphasis> darn! </Emphasis> I mean, what I was gonna <Emphasis> say </Emphasis> is that the other <Emphasis> option </Emphasis> is that we could bleep <Emphasis> out </Emphasis> the <Emphasis> names. </Emphasis> |
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| <Segment StartTime="4160.458" EndTime="4161.495" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah, is - |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="4160.813" EndTime="4161.629" Participant="fe008"> |
| Well, it- |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="4161.915" EndTime="4163.630" Participant="me018"> |
| plus we'd have to <Emphasis> tell </Emphasis> everybody <Emphasis> else. </Emphasis> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="4163.016" EndTime="4163.833" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="4164.305" EndTime="4167.490" Participant="me011"> |
| but then, again that kills your <Emphasis> discourse </Emphasis> analysis. <Pronounce Pronunciation=""ach""> Ugh! </Pronounce> <Comment Description="interjection"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="4165.952" EndTime="4166.672" Participant="me018"> |
| Right. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="4166.152" EndTime="4167.095" Participant="fe008"> |
| Uh-huh. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="4166.975" EndTime="4168.180" Participant="me013"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="4167.111" EndTime="4167.722" Participant="me018"> |
| Yeah. <Comment Description="quietly"/> |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="4167.606" EndTime="4168.222" Participant="mn005"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="4167.950" EndTime="4168.285" Participant="fe008"> |
| Yeah. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="4168.285" EndTime="4169.394" Participant="fe008"> |
| That's - <Emphasis> that's </Emphasis> the issue. |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="4168.804" EndTime="4170.343" Participant="me018"> |
| I - I think the - I think - |
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| <Segment StartTime="4170.593" EndTime="4174.651" Participant="me018"> |
| I don't know, my own two cents worth is that you don't do anything about what's in |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="4175.260" EndTime="4176.200" Participant="me018"> |
| the recordings, |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="4176.680" EndTime="4178.150" Participant="me018"> |
| you only anonymize |
| </Segment> |
| <Segment StartTime="4178.750" EndTime="4180.075" Participant="me018"> |
| to the extent you <Emphasis> can, </Emphasis> |
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| Well, but that- but that - as I said, that - that - that works great for the <Emphasis> acoustics, </Emphasis> but it - it hurts you a lot for trying to do <Emphasis> discourse. </Emphasis> |
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| <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> <Comment Description="as if to speak"/> |
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| the speakers have signed the forms and all. |
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| Well. |
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| Mm-hmm. <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> <Comment Description="as if to speak"/> |
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| Yeah. Th- |
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| Why? |
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| Yeah. |
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| Because you don't have a map of who's <Emphasis> talking </Emphasis> versus <Pause/> their <Pause/> name that they're being <Emphasis> referred </Emphasis> to. |
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| Bec- |
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| Yeah. |
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| I thought we were gonna get it labeled speaker-one, speaker-two - |
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| Sure but, h- then you have to <Emphasis> know </Emphasis> that Jose is speaker-one and - |
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| Why do you have to know his name? |
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| O_K, so suppose someone says, "well I don't know if I really heard what - |
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| uh, what Jose said." |
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| Yeah. |
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| Yeah. |
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| <Segment StartTime="4205.000" EndTime="4207.445" Participant="me013"> |
| And <Emphasis> then, </Emphasis> Jose responds. |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="4207.445" EndTime="4210.933" Participant="me013"> |
| And part of your learning about the <Emphasis> dialogue </Emphasis> is Jose <Emphasis> responding </Emphasis> to it. |
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| Yeah. |
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| <Segment StartTime="4210.933" EndTime="4214.360" Participant="me013"> |
| But it doesn't <Emphasis> say </Emphasis> "Jose", it says "speaker-<Emphasis> five </Emphasis>". |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> Yeah. |
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| <Segment StartTime="4213.915" EndTime="4214.611" Participant="me018"> |
| O_K. |
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| <Segment StartTime="4214.670" EndTime="4216.879" Participant="me013"> |
| So <Pause/> uh <Pause/> u- |
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| Yeah. |
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| Oh, I see, you wanna associated the word "Jose" in the dialogue with |
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| the fact that then he responded. |
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| Right. |
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| Someone who's doing <Emphasis> discourse </Emphasis> would wanna <Emphasis> do </Emphasis> that. |
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| And so, if we pass out the data to someone else, |
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| <Segment StartTime="4227.071" EndTime="4232.047" Participant="me013"> |
| and it says "speaker-<Emphasis> five </Emphasis>" there, we <Emphasis> also </Emphasis> have to pass them this little <Emphasis> guide </Emphasis> that says that speaker-five is <Emphasis> Jose, </Emphasis> |
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| and if were gonna do that we might as well <Comment Description="while laughing"/> give them "Jose" - say it was "Jose". <Comment Description="running out of breath on last word"/> |
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| And that <Emphasis> violates </Emphasis> our <Emphasis> privacy. </Emphasis> |
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| Yeah. |
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| Yeah. |
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| And that violates our <Emphasis> privacy </Emphasis> <Pronounce> issue. </Pronounce> |
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| Mm-hmm. Yeah. |
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| Yeah. |
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| <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> |
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| Yeah. |
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| Now, I - I think that we have these two phases in the - in the data, which is the one which is o- our use, University of Washington's use, I_B_M, S_R_I. |
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| <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/> |
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| Yeah. |
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| And within <Emphasis> that, </Emphasis> |
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| it <Emphasis> may </Emphasis> be that it's sufficient to not uh change the - to not incorporate anonymization yet, |
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| <VocalSound Description="breath"/> |
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| Mm-hmm. |
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| but <Emphasis> always, </Emphasis> always in the publications we have to. |
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| And I think also, when we take it that next step and distribute it to the world, we <Emphasis> have </Emphasis> to. |
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| But I - but I don- that's - that's a long way from now and - and it's a matter of - |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| between now and then of d- of <Pronounce> deciding </Pronounce> how - <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> |
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| Making some decisions? <Comment Description="completing [fe008]'s utterance"/> |
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| i- i- it - You know, it may be s- that we- we'll need to do something like actually X_ out that part of the um - the audio, and just put in brackets "speaker-one". |
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| Yeah. |
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| For the <Emphasis> public </Emphasis> one. |
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| <Uncertain> the ?? </Uncertain> |
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| You know, what we could <Emphasis> do </Emphasis> also is have more than one version of <Emphasis> release. </Emphasis> One that's <Emphasis> public </Emphasis> |
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| You know. |
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| Yeah. |
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| and one - one that requires licensing. |
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| And so the <Emphasis> licensed </Emphasis> one would - w- we could - it would be a <Emphasis> sticky </Emphasis> limitation. |
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| Uh-huh. |
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| I think that's risky. I think that the public should be the same. <Pause/> |
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| You know, like - Well, we can talk about that later. |
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| I think that when we do that world release, it should be the same. |
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| I - I agree. |
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| For a bunch of reasons, legal. |
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| I - I agree with Jane. I - I think that we - we have a - need to have a consistent licensing policy of some sort, |
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| But I also think a <Pronounce> consistent </Pronounce> <Pronounce> licensing </Pronounce> policy is important. |
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| and - |
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| Yeah. |
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| <Segment StartTime="4298.808" EndTime="4301.320" Participant="me018"> |
| Well, one thing to- to take into consideration is |
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| w- are there any |
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| um - For example, the people who are funding this work, |
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| <Segment StartTime="4306.900" EndTime="4313.585" Participant="me018"> |
| they want this work to get out and be useful for <Emphasis> discourse. </Emphasis> If we all of a sudden <Emphasis> do </Emphasis> this and then release it to the <Emphasis> public </Emphasis> and it's not longer useful for <Emphasis> discourse, </Emphasis> |
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| Well, depending on how much <Emphasis> editing </Emphasis> we do, you <Emphasis> might </Emphasis> be able to <Pause/> still have it <Emphasis> useful. </Emphasis> |
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| you know - <Comment Description="leading inference"/> |
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| because for <Emphasis> discourse </Emphasis> you don't need the <Emphasis> audio. </Emphasis> |
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| Right? So you could <Emphasis> bleep </Emphasis> <Emphasis> out </Emphasis> the names in the <Emphasis> audio. </Emphasis> |
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| Mm-hmm. |
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| and use the anonymized one through the <Emphasis> transcript. </Emphasis> |
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| <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> |
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| <Emphasis> Excuse </Emphasis> me. We - we <Emphasis> do </Emphasis> need audio for discourse. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| Uh. |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| But if you release <Emphasis> both </Emphasis> - |
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| But, n- excuse me, but you could bleep out just the names. |
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| She - |
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| No, but she's saying, from the argument <Emphasis> before, </Emphasis> she wants to be able to <Emphasis> say </Emphasis> if someone said "Jose" in their - in their thing, and then connect to so- to what he said later, then you <Emphasis> need </Emphasis> it. |
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| <Segment StartTime="4338.780" EndTime="4343.171" Participant="me011"> |
| Right. But in the <Emphasis> transcript, </Emphasis> you could say, everywhere they said "<Emphasis> Jose </Emphasis>" |
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| that you could |
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| <Segment StartTime="4345.292" EndTime="4347.293" Participant="me011"> |
| replace it with "speaker-<Emphasis> seven </Emphasis>". |
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| <Segment StartTime="4347.200" EndTime="4347.712" Participant="me013"> |
| Oh I see. |
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| <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> |
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| <Segment StartTime="4349.250" EndTime="4351.480" Participant="fe008"> |
| Yeah. But I - <Pause/> I <Emphasis> also </Emphasis> wanna say that people - |
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| <Emphasis> I </Emphasis> see. |
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| <Segment StartTime="4350.128" EndTime="4354.523" Participant="me011"> |
| And then it wouldn't meet - match the <Emphasis> audio </Emphasis> anymore. <Pause/> But it would be still useful for the - |
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| Uh-huh. |
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| <Segment StartTime="4353.605" EndTime="4355.541" Participant="me018"> |
| But if both of those are publically available - <Comment Description="leading inference"/> |
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| Yeah. That's good. |
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| But they - |
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| Right. |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| Well, you see? So, it's complicated. |
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| <Segment StartTime="4358.657" EndTime="4369.553" Participant="me013"> |
| And th- and the <Emphasis> other </Emphasis> thing is if - if - if Liz were here, <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> what she might say is that she wants to look if things that cut across between the audio and the dialogue, and so, <VocalSound Description="breath"/> uh, <VocalSound Description="breath"/> yeah. |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| Mm-hmm. |
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| Yeah. I think we have to think about w- |
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| Sorry. |
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| how. I think that this can't be decided today. |
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| Yeah, O_K, good point. |
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| But it's g- but I think it was good to introduce the thing and we can |
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| Yeah. |
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| <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> |
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| O_K. <Comment Description="said with finality"/> |
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| I didn't think - when I wrote you that <Emphasis> email </Emphasis> I wasn't thinking it was a big can of <Emphasis> worms, </Emphasis> but I guess it <Emphasis> is. </Emphasis> |
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| do it next time. <Comment Description="faster tempo"/> |
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| O_K. |
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| Yeah, a lot of these things are. |
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| <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> Well it - Discourse, you know - <Emphasis> Also </Emphasis> I wanted to make the point that - that discourse is gonna be more than just looking at a <Emphasis> transcript. </Emphasis> It's gonna be looking at a t- |
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| <Emphasis> Discourse. </Emphasis> <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| Yeah, ab- absolutely. |
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| Oh, yeah, sure. |
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| You know, and prosod- prosodic stuff is involved, and that means you're going to be listening to the audio, and then you come directly into this - confronting this problem. |
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| <Segment StartTime="4396.641" EndTime="4399.640" Participant="me018"> |
| Maybe we should just not allow anybody to do <Emphasis> research </Emphasis> on discourse, |
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| So. |
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| and then, we wouldn't have to worry about it. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| O_K. |
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| Yeah, we should just market it to non-English speaking countries. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| Uh, maybe we should only have meetings between people who don't know one another and who are also amnesiacs who don't know their own <Emphasis> name. </Emphasis> <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| O_K. |
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| Did you read the paper on Eurospeech? |
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| We could have little labels. I - I - I wanna introduce my Reservoir Dogs solution again, which is everyone has like "Mister White", "Mister Pink", <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> "Mister Blue". |
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| <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> Mister White. |
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| Yeah. |
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| Did you read the paper a few years ago where they were <Emphasis> reversing </Emphasis> the <Emphasis> syllables? </Emphasis> |
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| They were di- they- they <Emphasis> had </Emphasis> the <Emphasis> utterances. </Emphasis> and they would <Emphasis> extract </Emphasis> out the <Emphasis> syllables </Emphasis> and they would <Emphasis> play </Emphasis> them <Emphasis> backwards. </Emphasis> |
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| But - so, the syllables were in the same order, with respect to each other, but the acous- |
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| And you could <Emphasis> listen </Emphasis> to it, <Pause/> and it would sound the <Emphasis> same. </Emphasis> <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| What did it <Emphasis> sound </Emphasis> like? |
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| People had <Emphasis> no </Emphasis> difficulty in- interpreting it. |
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| So what we <Emphasis> need </Emphasis> is something that's the <Emphasis> reverse, </Emphasis> that a speech recognizer works exactly the same on it but people can't <Emphasis> understand </Emphasis> it. |
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| <Emphasis> What? </Emphasis> |
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| Oh, well that's - there's an <Emphasis> easy </Emphasis> way to do <Emphasis> that. </Emphasis> |
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| Jus- jus- just <Emphasis> play </Emphasis> it all <Emphasis> backwards. </Emphasis> <Comment Description="humor"/> |
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| Oh right. The speech recognizer's totally symmetric, isn't it. |
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| What, what does the <Emphasis> speech </Emphasis> recognizer care? <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> |
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| Ah, anyway. |
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| Um, |
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| Oh, do we do digits? Or - ? <Comment Description="leading question"/> What do we do? |
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| Let's do digits. Yeah, we - we - we already missed the party. So. |
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| Uh - O_K, we'll quickly do digits. |
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| Or do we just quit? |
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| O_K. |
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| Yeah. |
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| I think it would be fun sometime to read them with different intonations. |
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| O_K, go off here. |
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| like as if you were talking |
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| like, "nine eight six eight seven?" |
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| Well, you know, in the - in the one I transcribed, I did find a couple instances - <Pause/> I found one instance of contrastive stress, where it was like the string had a - |
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| li- So it was like "nine eight two four, nine <Emphasis> nine </Emphasis> two four". |
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| Oh, really. So they were like looking ahead, huh? |
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| And - |
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| Well, they <Emphasis> differed. </Emphasis> I mean, at that - <Emphasis> that </Emphasis> session I did feel like they did it more as <Emphasis> sentences. </Emphasis> |
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| But, um, sometimes people do it as phone numbers. <Comment Description="rising"/> I mean, I've - I <Pause/> |
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| am sort of interested in - in - And sometimes, you know, I s- |
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| Yeah, yeah. |
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| Yep. |
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| And I - <Emphasis> I </Emphasis> never know. When <Emphasis> I </Emphasis> do it, I - |
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| I ask myself what I'm <Emphasis> doing </Emphasis> each time. <Uncertain> and I - </Uncertain> |
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| Well, I was thinking that it must get kind of boring for the people who are gonna have to transcribe this |
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| They may as well throw in some interesting intonations. |
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| Well, except, yeah. <Pause/> We have the transcript. We have the actual numbers they're reading, so we're not necessarily depending on that. O_K, I'm gonna go off. |
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| I <Emphasis> like </Emphasis> your <Emphasis> question </Emphasis> intonation. That's <Emphasis> very </Emphasis> funny. I haven't heard <Emphasis> that </Emphasis> one. |
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