ICSI_original_transcripts/transcripts/Bed014.mrt

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    <Notes>
      Power flickered sometime during meeting.
   
   No digits read.
   All mikes except channel 0 are active at 1 min 30 sec.
   Channel 0's mike becomes active at 6 min 34 sec.
   All microphones seem to be shut off between 38:14 and 38:20, for
   some unknown reason.
   At minute 52 almost all mikes are shut off except channel 1,
   but conversation continues, imperfectly audible from the
   non-close mikes.
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      <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/> <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
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    <Segment StartTime="4.549" EndTime="5.927" Participant="fe004">
      Sorry.
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      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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    <Segment StartTime="21.903" EndTime="23.267" Participant="fe004">
      Mental - mental Palm Pilot.
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    <Segment StartTime="23.900" EndTime="24.237" Participant="fe004">
      <Comment Description="muffled"/> Right.
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      <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
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      <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
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      Hence <Pause/> no problem.
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      Let's see. <Comment Description="very quietly"/>
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      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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    <Segment StartTime="35.931" EndTime="38.067" Participant="fn050">
      So. What? I'm supposed to be on channel <Emphasis> five? </Emphasis> <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
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      <Uncertain> Her </Uncertain>. Nope. <Pause/> Doesn't seem to be, yeah.
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      Hello <Pause/> I'm channel one.
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    <Segment StartTime="42.141" EndTime="42.770" Participant="fn050">
      <VocalSound Description="lateral tongue click"/> <Comment Description="vocal gesture meaning &quot;what now?&quot;"/>
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    <Segment StartTime="42.326" EndTime="43.928" Participant="mn015">
      What does your thing say on the back?
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      <Uncertain NumSyllables="1"> @@ </Uncertain> <Comment Description="uncodeable vocalization"/> <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
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      Nnn, five.
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      Testing. <Comment Description="marked intonation"/>
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      Alright, I'm five. <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/>
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      Sibilance. <Comment Description="testing mike"/>
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      <VocalSound Description="laugh-breath"/>
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      Sibilance. <Comment Description="testing mike"/> <Pause/> Three, three.
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      I am three. <Comment Description="testing mike"/>
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      <VocalSound Description="laugh-breath"/>
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    <Segment StartTime="53.585" EndTime="54.198" Participant="fe004">
      Eh.
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      See, that matches the <Emphasis> seat </Emphasis> up <Emphasis> there. </Emphasis> So.
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      Yeah, well, I g- <Emphasis> guess </Emphasis> <Pause/> it's coming up then, or -
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      Cuz it's -
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      That starts counting from zero and these start counting from one.
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      Ergo, the classic off-by-one error. <VocalSound Description="outbreath"/> <Comment Description="mock commentator's voice, as one would find in T_V coverage of sports match"/>
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      But <Emphasis> mine </Emphasis> is correct.
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      <Emphasis> Is </Emphasis> it? <Comment Description="to [fe004]"/>
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      No. <Comment Description="to [fe004]"/>
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      It's <Emphasis> one. </Emphasis>
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      Channel <Emphasis> one. </Emphasis>
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      Look at the back. <Comment Description="to [fe004]"/>
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      Your <Emphasis> mike </Emphasis> <Pause/> number <Pause/> is what we're t- <Comment Description="to [fe004]"/>
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      Oh, oh, oh!
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      Oh. <Comment Description="lengthened"/>
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      Ho! <Comment Description="joking, mock radio announcer voice"/>
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      So -
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      I've <Emphasis> bested </Emphasis> you <Emphasis> again, </Emphasis> Nancy. <Comment Description="while smiling"/>
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      But your p-
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      <Emphasis> No, </Emphasis> but the <Emphasis> paper's </Emphasis> correct.
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      The <Emphasis> paper </Emphasis> <Emphasis> is </Emphasis> correct.
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      Look at the <Emphasis> paper. </Emphasis>
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      I didn't det- I was <Emphasis> saying </Emphasis> the <Emphasis> microphone, </Emphasis> <Emphasis> not </Emphasis> the <Emphasis> paper. </Emphasis>
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      Nnn, <Comment Description="vocal gesture signalling upcoming correction or qualification"/>
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    <Segment StartTime="90.091" EndTime="91.790" Participant="me010">
      it's n-
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      Oh.
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      It's always <Emphasis> offset. </Emphasis> Yeah.
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      O_K.
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      Yes, you've <Emphasis> bested </Emphasis> me again. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> That's how I think of our continuing interaction. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> Damn! Foiled <Emphasis> again! </Emphasis>
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    <Segment StartTime="102.960" EndTime="107.515" Participant="me003">
      So is Keith showing up? He's talking with George right now. Uh, is he gonna get a rip - uh - rip himself away from -
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      What -
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      He'll probably come later.
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      He- he- he's
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      from that?
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      probably <Emphasis> not, </Emphasis> is my guess.
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      <Emphasis> Oh, </Emphasis> then it's just gonna be the <Emphasis> five </Emphasis> of us?
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      Yeah.
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      Well, he - he was very affirmative in his way of saying he will be here at four. But <Pause/> you know, that was before he knew about that George lecture probably.
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    <Segment StartTime="120.884" EndTime="121.339" Participant="me010">
      Right.
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      This - this is <Emphasis> not </Emphasis> -
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      It's not bad for the project if Keith is talking to George.
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      O_K. So my suggestion is we just
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      Forge ahead. <Comment Description="completing [me010]'s utterance"/>
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      Forge ahead, yeah. <Comment Description="accepting [fe004]'s completion"/>
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      Cool. <Comment Description="very quietly"/>
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      Are <Emphasis> you </Emphasis> in charge?
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      Sure. <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
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      Um.
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      Well, <Emphasis> I </Emphasis> sort of had <Emphasis> informal </Emphasis> talks with
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      <Emphasis> most </Emphasis> of you. So, Eva just reported she's really happy about the <Pause/> C_B_T's being in the same order in the X_M_L as in the
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      Yeah.
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      um - be- Java declaration format so you don't have to
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      The e-
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      Uh, yeah.
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      do too much in the style sheet
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      Yeah, so.
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      <Uncertain> transversion </Uncertain>.
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      The - uh, Java - the embedded Bayes <Pause/> wants to take input - uh, uh, a Bayes-net - in - in some Java notation
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      and
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      Eva is using the Xalan style sheet processor to convert the X_M_L that's output by the Java Bayes
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      for the - into the, uh, E_Bayes input.
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      Mmm.
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      Actually, maybe I could try, like, <Emphasis> emailing </Emphasis> the guy and see if he has any- something already.
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      Sure.
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      Hmm.
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      That'd be weird, that
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      he has both the Java Bayes and the embedded Bayes in -
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      Yeah.
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      But that's some sort of conversion program?
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      Yeah.
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      And put them into different <Pause/> formats.
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      Oh - Yep, he could do that, too.
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      I think you should demand things from him.
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      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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    <Segment StartTime="207.060" EndTime="209.890" Participant="me010">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> He charges so much. Right.
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      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> Yeah. <Comment Description="while laughing"/>
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      No, I think it's a good idea that you may as well <Emphasis> ask. </Emphasis> <Emphasis> Sure. </Emphasis>
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      Yeah.
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      And, um, well <Pause/> pretty mu- pretty much on t- on the <Emphasis> top </Emphasis> of my list, I would have asked Keith how the "where is X_?" <Pause/> hand parse is standing.
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      Um. <Pause/> But we'll skip that.
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      Uh, there's good news from Johno. The generation templates are done.
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      So the trees <Pause/> for -
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      <VocalSound Description="sniff"/>
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      the X_M_L trees for the - for the gene- for the synthesizer
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      are written. So I just need to <Pause/> do the, uh - write a new set of <Pause/> tree combining rules. <Comment Description="rising intonation"/> But
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    <Segment StartTime="252.204" EndTime="254.162" Participant="me003">
      I think those'll be pretty similar to the old ones.
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    <Segment StartTime="254.920" EndTime="255.479" Participant="me003">
      So.
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      Just gonna be - you know -
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      Oh!
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      <Emphasis> You </Emphasis> were gonna send <Emphasis> me </Emphasis> a note
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      about hiring -
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      Yes.
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      I didn't finish the <Emphasis> sentence </Emphasis> but he <Emphasis> understood </Emphasis> it. <VocalSound Description="sniff"/>
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      <Emphasis> I </Emphasis> know what he's talking about.
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      O_K.
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      <VocalSound Description="laugh-breath"/>
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      But <Emphasis> Nancy </Emphasis> doesn't.
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      Hiring <Emphasis> somebody. </Emphasis>
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      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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      We - w- um -
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      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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    <Segment StartTime="276.774" EndTime="277.713" Participant="me003">
      The guy.
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      O_K, so <Pause/>
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      <Emphasis> No. </Emphasis>
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      natural language generation <Pause/> produces
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      not a - just a surface string that is fed into a text-to-speech
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      Yeah.
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      but, a <Pause/> surface string with a <Emphasis> syntax </Emphasis> tree that's fed into a <Emphasis> concept-to-speech. </Emphasis>
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      Mm-hmm. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
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      Now and this concept-to-speech module has <Pause/> certain rules on how <Pause/> if you get the following syntactic
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      Better.
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      structure, how to map this onto <Pronounce> prosodic  </Pronounce> rules.
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      Mm-hmm.
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      <Uncertain> Sure </Uncertain>. <Comment Description="or &quot;true&quot;"/>
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      Mm-hmm. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
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      And <Emphasis> Fey </Emphasis> has foolheartedly agreed to <Emphasis> rewrite </Emphasis>
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      uh, the <Emphasis> German </Emphasis> concept- uh <Emphasis> syntax-to-prosody </Emphasis> rules -
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      I didn't know she spoke German.
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      No, she <Emphasis> doesn't. </Emphasis> <Pause/> But she speaks <Emphasis> English. </Emphasis>
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      Oh, O_K.
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      Oh. Rewrite the German ones into English. O_K, got it.
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      Into English. <VocalSound Description="breath"/> <Pause/> And um
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      therefore <Pause/> the, uh -
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      if it's O_K that we give her a couple of more hours per week, then <Pause/> she'll do that.
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      O_K, got it.
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      What <Pause/> <Emphasis> language </Emphasis> is that <Pause/> written i- Is that that Scheme thing that you showed me?
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      Yeah.
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      That's the LISP-type scheme.
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      She knows how to program in Scheme? <Pause/> I hope?
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      No, I - <Uncertain NumSyllables="1"> @@ </Uncertain> <Comment Description="uncodeable vocal syllable"/>
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    <Segment StartTime="339.870" EndTime="344.142" Participant="mn015">
      <Emphasis> My </Emphasis> guess is - I - I asked for a commented version of that file?
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      If we get that, then it's <Pause/> doable, even without getting into it, even though the Scheme li- uh, stuff is really well documented in the <Pause/> Festival.
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      Well, I guess if you're not used to functional programming, Scheme can be completely incomprehensible.
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      Cuz, there's no -
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      Like <Pause/> there's lots of unnamed functions and - <Comment Description="abandoned"/> You know?
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      Syntax.
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      Yeah. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
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      Mm-hmm. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
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      Anyway, it - We'll sort this out. Um. <Comment Description="lengthened"/>
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      But anyway, send me the note and then I'll- I'll check with, uh, Morgan on the money. I - I don't anticipate any problem but we have to <Pause/> ask.
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      Oh, so this was - <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise burst"/>
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      You know, on the <Emphasis> generation </Emphasis> thing,
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      um <Comment Description="lengthened"/>
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      if <Comment Description="lengthened"/>
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      sh- y- she's really going to <Emphasis> do </Emphasis> that, then we should be able to get prosody as <Emphasis> well. </Emphasis> So it'll say it's nonsense with
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      <Emphasis> perfect </Emphasis> intonation.
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      Are we gonna - Can we change the voice
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      of the - of the thing, because right now the voice sounds like a murderer.
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      Yep. We ha- we <Emphasis> have </Emphasis> to change the voice.
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      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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      Wh- Which <Emphasis> one? </Emphasis>
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      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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      The - the little Smarticus - Smarticus sounds like a murderer.
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      Oh.
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      That's good to know. <Comment Description="very quietly"/>
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      "I have your reservations." <Comment Description="imitating &quot;murderer&quot; voice quality, deep voice, measured pace"/>
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      But I will <Emphasis> not </Emphasis> give them to you unless you come into my lair. <Comment Description="continuing [me003]'s imitation of Smarticus"/>
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      It is - Uh, we have the choice between the, uh, usual Festival voices, which I already told the SmartKom people we <Emphasis> aren't </Emphasis> gonna use because they're really bad.
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      Festival?
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      It's the name of some <Emphasis> program, </Emphasis> <Pause/> the - the <Emphasis> synthesizer. </Emphasis> <Comment Description="appositive"/>
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      Oh, oh. Got it. O_K.
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      But, um <VocalSound Description="laugh-breath"/>
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      You know, the usual party voices. <Comment Description="humor"/>
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      Yeah, I know. <Comment Description="while laughing"/> That doesn't sound, <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> exactly right either. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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      O_G_I has, uh, crafted a couple of diphone
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      type voices that are really nice and we're going to use <Pause/> that. We can still, um, d- agree on a <Emphasis> gender, </Emphasis> if we want.
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      So we still have male or female.
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      I think -
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      Well, let's just pick whatever sounds best.
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      Hmm?
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      Whatever sounds best.
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      Uh. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
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      <VocalSound Description="sniff"/>
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    <Segment StartTime="446.540" EndTime="447.917" Participant="me003">
      Does O_G_I stand for - ? <Comment Description="leading question"/>
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      Unfortunately, probably male voices, a bit more research on. So.
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      Orego-
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      Original German Institute?
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      Or-
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      Oregon. <Pause/> Try Oregon.
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      Oregon <Uncertain NumSyllables="2"> @@ </Uncertain> <Comment Description="uncodeable speech sounds, corrected speech error"/> Graduate Institute
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      Oh.
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      Oregon Graduate Insti-
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      Ah.
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      It turns out there's the <Emphasis> long-standing </Emphasis> links with these guys in the speech group.
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      Hmm! <Comment Description="quietly"/>
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      Very long.
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      Hmm!
    </Segment>
    <Segment StartTime="461.520" EndTime="462.034" Participant="mn015">
      <VocalSound Description="breath"/> <Uncertain> Hmm. </Uncertain>
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      In fact, there's this guy who's basically got a joint appointment, <Pause/> Hynek <Pause/> Hermansky. <Comment Description="appositive"/>
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      He's- spends a fair amount of time here. <Emphasis> Anyway. </Emphasis>
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      Leave it. <Pause/> Won't be a problem.
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    <Segment StartTime="475.090" EndTime="481.352" Participant="mn015">
      O_K. <Comment Description="quietly"/> And it's probably also absolutely uninteresting for all of you to, um
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      learn that as of twenty minutes ago, David and I, per accident, uh managed to get
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      the whole SmartKom system running on the - uh, ICSI Linux machines with the ICSI N_T machines
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      thereby increasing the number of running SmartKom systems in this house from <Pause/> one on my laptop to <Emphasis> three. </Emphasis>
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      Mmm, that's good.
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      How was this by accident?
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      Yeah, I know. Tha- that's the part I didn't understand.
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      Um, I suggested to try something that was really kind of - even though against better knowledge shouldn't have worked, but it worked.
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      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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      Hmm!
    </Segment>
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      Intuition. <Pause/> Maybe - maybe - maybe a bit for the A_I i- intuition thing.
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      Will it work <Emphasis> again, </Emphasis> or - ? <Comment Description="leading question"/> <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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      Yeah. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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    <Segment StartTime="516.620" EndTime="518.051" Participant="me003">
      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> Yeah.
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      O_K.
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      And, um, we'll never found out why.
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    <Segment StartTime="523.340" EndTime="527.983" Participant="mn015">
      It- it's just like why - why the generation ma- the presentation manager is now working?
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    <Segment StartTime="528.336" EndTime="529.244" Participant="me045">
      Hmm!
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      Which
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      This is something you ha- you get used to as a programmer, right? You know, <Comment Description="while laughing"/> and it's cool, it works out <Uncertain> that way </Uncertain>.
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      Hmm. <Comment Description="quietly"/> So, <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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      the - the people at Saarbruecken and I decided not to touch it ever again.
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      <Uncertain> Yeah, that would work </Uncertain>. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
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      O_K.
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      Um - I was gonna ask you where something is
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      and what we know about that. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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    <Segment StartTime="550.724" EndTime="551.930" Participant="me045">
      Where - O_K.
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      Where the "where is" construction is.
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      Where is X_?
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    <Segment StartTime="551.930" EndTime="553.607" Participant="me045">
      What - what thing is this?
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    <Segment StartTime="554.480" EndTime="555.420" Participant="me045">
      O_K.
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      Oh, but by - Uh, we can ask, uh, did you get to read all four hundred words? <VocalSound Description="breath"/> Was it O_K? Was it?
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      I <Emphasis> did. </Emphasis>
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      I - I wa- I was <Emphasis> looking </Emphasis> at it. It doesn't follow <Emphasis> logically. </Emphasis>
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      Yeah. <Comment Description="intonation indicating &quot;more or less&quot;"/>
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      And so on.
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      Hmm. That -
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      I- i- Yeah. Well, it- it's fine.
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      Anyway. Um.
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      But c- the <Emphasis> meeting </Emphasis> looks like it's, it's gonna be good.
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      So. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
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      Yeah, I didn't know about it until <Pause/> Robert told me, like,
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      Yeah, I - I ra- I ran across it in - I don't even know <Emphasis> where, </Emphasis> you know - some just - some weird
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      And, uh, yeah, I- I'm surprised I <Emphasis> didn't </Emphasis> know about it
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      since we know all the invited speakers, an-
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      So - But anyway, yeah.
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      I- so I - I <Emphasis> did </Emphasis> see that.
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      Oh wha- Yeah. Before we get started on this st- <Pause/> so I also had a nice email correspondence with Daphne Kohler, who said yes indeed she would love to work with us on the, um, - you know, using these structured belief-nets and stuff
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      but <Pause/> starting in August, that she's also got a new student working on this and that we should get in touch with them again in August and then we'll figure out a way for you - uh - you to get seriously connected with, um
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      their group. So <Pause/>
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      that's, uh - looks
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      We've been so far working on things that are easy.
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      mental spaces and uh -
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      and-or -
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      It's hard.
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      Huh?
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      Yeah, it's hard. Yeah. <Comment Description="while laughing"/>
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      It's a hard puzzle. <Emphasis> But </Emphasis> the other <Emphasis> part </Emphasis> of it is the way they connect to
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      these, uh, probabilistic relational models.
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      So <Pause/> there's <Emphasis> all </Emphasis> the problems that the <Emphasis> linguists </Emphasis> know about, about mental spaces, and the <Emphasis> cognitive </Emphasis> linguists know about, but then there's this problem of the
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      Uh, which they call dynamic -
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      they <Emphasis> incorrectly </Emphasis> call <Emphasis> dynamic </Emphasis> belief-nets. So there's a term "<Emphasis> dynamic </Emphasis> belief-net", <Emphasis> doesn't </Emphasis> mean that. It means <Emphasis> time </Emphasis> slices. And Srini used those and people use them.
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      Mmm.
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      Uh.
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      for multiple worlds
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      So the <Emphasis> story </Emphasis> is that if you <Emphasis> have </Emphasis> these probabilistic relational <Emphasis> models, </Emphasis> they're set up, in <Emphasis> principle, </Emphasis> so that you can make new instances and instances connect to each other, and all that sort of stuff, so it <Emphasis> should </Emphasis> be feasible
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      to set them up in such a way that if you've got the past tense and the present tense and each of those is a separate <Pause/> uh, <Emphasis> belief </Emphasis> structure
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      And <Emphasis> sometimes </Emphasis> it's actually <Emphasis> easier </Emphasis>
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      Yeah. <VocalSound Description="breath-laugh"/>
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      <Emphasis> We'll </Emphasis> see. <Comment Description="during mike noise"/> But <Emphasis> anyway, </Emphasis> so that's, um -
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      Oh yeah, like uh, I solved the - the problem of um - we were talking about how do you -
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      Right.
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      and it would take a really long time to explain it now, but I'm about to write it up this evening.
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      I solved that at the same time as "how do we keep adjectives from floating to the left of determiners and how do we keep all of that from floating outside the noun phrase" to get something like "I the kicked dog". Um.
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      That's great.
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      Yeah. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
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      No, I know, I th- I- I think that <Emphasis> is </Emphasis> gonna be
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      Right.
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      And if we - if the formalism is - is <Emphasis> good, </Emphasis> then we should be able to
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      talking with you about. <Emphasis> Not </Emphasis> the formalism yet
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      Mm-hmm.
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      but the phenomena.
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      Yeah.
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      <Uncertain> The p- </Uncertain> And - Oh, <Emphasis> another </Emphasis> thing, um
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      Hmm!
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      that
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      Anyway, uh, that we were - that we're gonna try to get a
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      O_K? Probably <Emphasis> skipping </Emphasis> the mental spaces part.
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      Uh, just trying to write up essentially what - what you guys have worked out
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      Mm-hmm.
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      currently, uh, knows, uh
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      O_K.
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      Yeah, and - and not even all of them really do. But like - <Comment Description="while laughing"/>
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      <Emphasis> End </Emphasis> of next week. I thought you said beginning <Uncertain> of n- </Uncertain>
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      O_K. Yeah, so - so someti- sometime next week.
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      that's fine.
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      and to the extent we <Emphasis> don't, </Emphasis> let's find out what we need to <Emphasis> do. </Emphasis>
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      So, uh
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      Uh, what was <Emphasis> supposed </Emphasis> to happen? I've sort of been actually caught up in some <Emphasis> other </Emphasis> ones, so, um, you know, I don't have a write-up of -
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      One of them was th-
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      Um, so d'you - Is it clear what we're talking about here?
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      Uh -
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      Uh -
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      So <Pause/> assume these are two, uh, nodes we can observe in the Bayes-net. So these are either
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      Yep.
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      Yeah.
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      Right.
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      true or false and it's also just true <Pause/> or false.
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      If we encounter a phrase such as "where is X_?", should that set <Emphasis> this </Emphasis> to true <Emphasis> and </Emphasis> this to true, and the Bayes-net figures out which under the c- situation in general is more <Emphasis> likely? </Emphasis>
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      Um, or should it just activate
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      <Emphasis> this, </Emphasis> have this be <Emphasis> false, </Emphasis> and the Bayes-net figures out whether this <Emphasis> actually </Emphasis> now means - ?
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      Uh w- that's a s- O_K, so that's a - that's a <Emphasis> separate </Emphasis> issue. So I a- I I th- I agree with you that, um, it's a disaster to try to make separate constructions for every
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      O_K.
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      uh, pragmatic
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      Mm-hmm.
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      Good. <Comment Description="very quietly"/>
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      Right.
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      Right.
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      I mean, there- there's some that -
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      Or have every construction list all the possible pragmatic implications of the same one. <Pause/> Right.
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      You can't do that either. Yeah.
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      But, you know, c- um - almost certainly "can you pass the salt" is a construction worth
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      Mm-hmm. Yeah.
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      <Uncertain> Very </Uncertain> yeah. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
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      Yeah.
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      Yeah.
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      where it is. <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
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      Well the question is basically, is this conventional or conversational implicature?
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      Exactly. Yeah.
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      Right.
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      O_K, right.
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      Right.
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      Which one it is. <Comment Description="completing [me010]'s utterance"/>
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      Which of that is. <Comment Description="completing [me010]'s utterance"/> Yeah, O_K
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      right <Emphasis> now. </Emphasis>
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      Cuz there will be other k- examples that are one way or the other. Right.
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      In the <Emphasis> short </Emphasis> run, let's - let's
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      O_K.
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      <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> And then the- <VocalSound Description="clears throat"/> we had another idea floating around
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      But the <Emphasis> nice </Emphasis> thing is w- we <Emphasis> would </Emphasis> have a person that would like to <Emphasis> work </Emphasis> on it, and that's Ir- Irina <Pronounce Pronunciation="&quot;Gureovich&quot;"> Gurevich  </Pronounce> from E_M_L <Pause/> who is going to be visiting us, uh, the week before, uh, August
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      uh, mentioned
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      um, it's more likely that the person actually wants to <Emphasis> enter </Emphasis> <Pause/> than just take a picture of it
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      Now what <Emphasis> could </Emphasis> imagine - to, you know, have a list for each construction of things that one should look up in the discourse history, yeah? That's the <Emphasis> really </Emphasis> stupid way.
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      Then there is the <Pause/> really <Emphasis> clever </Emphasis> way that was suggested by <Emphasis> Keith </Emphasis> <Pause/> and then there is the, uh, <Emphasis> middle </Emphasis> way that <Emphasis> I'm </Emphasis> suggesting <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> and that is you - you <Emphasis> get </Emphasis> <Emphasis> X_ </Emphasis>, which is whatever, the castle.
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      The ontology will tell us that castles have opening hours, that they have admission fees, they have whatever.
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      And then, this is - We go via a thesaurus
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      and look up <Pause/> certain linguistic surface structures <Pause/> that are related to these concepts <Pause/> and feed <Emphasis> those </Emphasis> through the dialogue history and check dynamically
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      for each e- entity. We look it up
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      and then activate the corresponding nodes on the discourse
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      side.
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      But Keith suggested that a - a much cleaner way would be - <Pronounce> is,  </Pronounce> you know, to keep track of the discourse in such a way that you - if you <Emphasis> know </Emphasis> that something like that ha- has been mentioned <Emphasis> before, </Emphasis> this just a- continues to add up, you know, in th- in a -
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      So if someone mentions admission f- fees, that activates an Enter schema which sticks around for a little while in your rep- in the representation of what's being talked about. And then when someone asks "where is X_?" you've already got the - the Enter schema activated and you're able to - to conclude on it. Yeah.
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      Mm-hmm.
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      Kind of a priming
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      <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> Yeah.
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      priming a spreading activation
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      Right.
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      Yeah. So that's certainly <Pause/> more <Pause/> realistic. I m- I mean <Emphasis> psychologically. </Emphasis> Now <Emphasis> technically </Emphasis>
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      Right.
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      Yeah.
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      Um <Comment Description="lengthened"/>
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      Well, uh, is it - doesn't it seem like if you just managed the dialogue history with a - a thread, that
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      you know, kept track of ho- of the activity of -
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      I mean, cuz it would - the - the thread would know what nodes <Pause/> like, needed to be activated, so it could just keep track of <Pause/> how long it's been since <Pause/> something's been mentioned, and <Pause/> automatically load it in.
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      Yeah.
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      You <Emphasis> could </Emphasis> do that. Um.
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      But
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      here's - here's a way - in th- in the bl- <Emphasis> Bayes-net </Emphasis> you could - you could <Emphasis> think </Emphasis> about it this way, that if
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      um <Pause/> at the time "admissions fee" was mentioned <Pause/> you could increase the probability <Pause/> that someone wanted to <Emphasis> enter. </Emphasis>
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      We- yeah - th- th- that's what I wa- I wasn't - I was -
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      I wasn't thinking in terms of Enter schemas. I was just -
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      Fair enough, O_K, but, but, in terms of the c- c- the current implementation - right?
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      so that
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      um
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      It would already be higher in the <Pause/> context.
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      th- that th- the - the - the conditional probability that someone -
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      So at the time you <Emphasis> mentioned </Emphasis> it -
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      This is - this is essentially the Bayes-net equivalent
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      Mm-hmm.
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      of the spreading activation. It's -
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      Yeah.
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      In some ways it's not as good but it's <Pause/> the implementation we <Emphasis> got. </Emphasis> We don't <Emphasis> have </Emphasis> a connectionist implementation.
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      Yeah, sure. No, I mean
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      Now -
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      Now my <Emphasis> guess </Emphasis> is that it's <Emphasis> not </Emphasis> a question of time but it
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      Yeah, relevance. Yeah.
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      Yeah.
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      I mean, we could look at dialo- this is - Of course the <Emphasis> other </Emphasis> thing we ha- we do is, is we have this data coming
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      Yeah.
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      which probably will blow all our theories, but - <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> but skipping that - so - so - but my guess is what - what'll <Emphasis> probably </Emphasis> will happen,
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      Yeah, right.
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      Here's a - here's a proposed design. <Comment Description="embedded utterance"/>
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      is that there're certain constructions which, uh, for our purposes do
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      and <Comment Description="lengthened"/>
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      th- that
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      the, uh, <Emphasis> standard </Emphasis> way that - that the- these contexts work is sort of stack-like or whatever, but that's sort of the most recent <Emphasis> thing. </Emphasis>
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      And so it <Emphasis> could </Emphasis> be that <Pause/> when another
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      uh, en- tourist entity gets mentioned, you
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      re- re- essentially re-initiali- you know, re-i- essentially re-initialize the <Pause/> state.
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      Mmm.
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      Mm-hmm.
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      And of course i- if we had a <Emphasis> fancier </Emphasis> one with multiple worlds
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      you could have - uh, you could keep track of what
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      someone was <Pause/> uh
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      saying about this and that. You know, "I wanna go - in the morning I wanna -"
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      Yeah.
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      Yeah, or - Yeah, in the morning morning I- I'm planning t- to go shopping, in the afternoon to the Powder-Tower -
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      Yeah.
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      Uh, tal- so I'm talking about <Emphasis> shopping </Emphasis> and then you say, uh, you know, well, um
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      Mm-hmm.
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      Yeah.
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      But I <Emphasis> do </Emphasis> th- think that the - <Comment Description="lengthened"/>
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      It'll turn out that it's gonna be - depend pretty much on whether there's been an override.
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      Yeah, I mean, if - if you ask "how much does a train ride and - and cinema around the vineyards cost?" and then somebody tells you it's sixty dollars and then you say
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      How much is, uh - I would like to <Pause/> visit the -" <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> whatever, something completely different, "then I go to, you know, Point Reyes",
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      Yeah.
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      it - it's <Emphasis> not </Emphasis> more likely that you want to enter <Emphasis> anything, </Emphasis> but it's, as a matter of fact, a complete <Emphasis> rejection </Emphasis> of entering
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      Right. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
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      Right. <Comment Description="muffled"/>
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      Right. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
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      So when you admit- have admission fee and it changes something, it's only for that particular - It's relational, right? It's only for that particular object.
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      Yeah, I th- th- Yeah.
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      Well, and - and - and the <Emphasis> simple </Emphasis> idea is that it's on- it's only for m- for the current
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      Yeah.
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      uh, tourist e- entity of <Pronounce> instre-  </Pronounce> interest. <Comment Description="speech error during overlap"/>
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      Yeah. <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
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      Right.
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      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> Yeah. But that's -
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      No, no. It's - it -
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      uh
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      For - But - Right.
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      You could just hav- uh, just basically, ob- it -
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      Now, uh - But I think Ro- Robert's <Emphasis> right, </Emphasis> that to <Emphasis> determine </Emphasis> that,
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      So, if the issue is, if - so now th- this construction has been matched and you say "O_K.
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      <Emphasis> Does </Emphasis> this actually <Emphasis> have </Emphasis> any <Emphasis> implications </Emphasis> for our <Emphasis> decisions? </Emphasis>"
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      Then there's another piece of code
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      <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> that presumably <Pause/> <Emphasis> does </Emphasis> that <Emphasis> computation. </Emphasis>
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      So, sort of forward chaining in a way, rather than <Pause/> backward. O_K.
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      Yeah.
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      Yeah. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
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      But - but what's <Emphasis> Robert's </Emphasis> saying is - is,
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      Oh, <Emphasis> I </Emphasis> see.
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      If we <Emphasis> wanted </Emphasis> to have that <Emphasis> function </Emphasis> in the dialogue hi- dialogue module of SmartKom, I have the written consent of <Foreign Language="de">  Jan  </Foreign> to put it in there.
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      Good.
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      That's - uh, I'm - I'm
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      O_K. So if, you know - if this is - <Emphasis> seriously, </Emphasis> if this becomes part of <Emphasis> your </Emphasis> thesis, you can say, hey we're gonna do it <Emphasis> this </Emphasis> way, that's the way it's done.
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      <Emphasis> No, </Emphasis> no, no! No, no. We've got a lot - we've got a <Emphasis> lot </Emphasis> of theses going.
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      Yeah.
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      Right. So h- he's got a th- he's got a meet- meeting in Germany with his thesis advisor.
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      Oh yeah.
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      Mm-hmm.
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      Yeah.
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      Well I <Emphasis> said. </Emphasis> But that's part of what the f-
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      Right. So. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> Right. So thing - That's part of why we want the formalism, is - is because th- it is gonna have implicit <Emphasis> in </Emphasis> it
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      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> Made it much easier to make these decisions. Uh. <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
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      <Emphasis> Obviously. </Emphasis>
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      <Emphasis> No, </Emphasis> they're <Emphasis> decisions. </Emphasis> <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> O_K.
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      Yes. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> Excuse me. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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    <Segment StartTime="1996.980" EndTime="1999.026" Participant="me010">
      Yeah, that - <Emphasis> That's </Emphasis> the point, is - is th-
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      Yeah.
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      <Emphasis> Constraints. </Emphasis> Let's call them constraints, around which one has to -
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      Yeah.
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      Actually, yeah. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> There's a problem with that word, too, though.
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      Yeah. <Comment Description="quietly"/> <Pause/> Anyway. But so that's that's w-
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      Yeah, but it - he- the decisions I made wer- had to do with my <Emphasis> thesis. </Emphasis> So consequently don't I get to decide then that it's Robert's job?
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      Yeah.
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      No. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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      Uh.
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      Anyhow. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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      Well, I'll just pick a piece of the problem and then just <Emphasis> push </Emphasis> the hard stuff into the center <Pause/> and say it's Robert's. Like. <Comment Description="while laughing"/>
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      I've always been <Pause/> completely in favor of consensus decisions, so we'll - we'll find a way.
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      I can - <Comment Description="very quietly"/>
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      Right. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
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      Well, we - we - we will, but um
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      <Emphasis> I </Emphasis> haven't. <Comment Description="mock little girl voice"/> O_K. <Comment Description="while laughing"/>
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      It - it might even be <Pause/> interesting then to <Pause/> say that I should be forced to
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      not -
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      um, sort of pull some of the ideas that have been floating in my head out of the, uh - out of the top hat
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      Yes.
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      and, um -
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      <NonVocalSound Description="scraping noise"/> Always good.
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      Right. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
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      That metaphor is not going anywhere, you know. <Comment Description="while laughing"/>
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      So-
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      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> Yeah. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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      Ri- No. Absolutely. So, uh, wh- you had - you know you ha- You had done one draft.
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      Yes, and, um, it's -
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      And a- another draft
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      I didn't get <Comment Description="very quietly"/>
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      Ha- <Emphasis> None </Emphasis> of that is basically still around, but it's -
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      O_K.
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      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> Oh, I guess it's good I didn't read it. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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      D- i- <Uncertain NumSyllables="1"> @@ </Uncertain>
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      I- i-
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      I - this is - I'm <Emphasis> shocked. </Emphasis> This is the <Emphasis> first </Emphasis> time I've seen a thesis proposal <Emphasis> change. </Emphasis> <Comment Description="joking"/>
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      <VocalSound Description="yawn"/> Really?
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      Right. <Emphasis> Anyway, </Emphasis> uh. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> So. But, yeah, a second - that would be <Emphasis> great. </Emphasis> So, uh, a sec- I mean you're gonna need it anyway.
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      Hmm.
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      Yeah, and I would like to d- discuss it and, you know, get you guys's input and make it sort of bomb-proof. <Comment Description="lengthened"/>
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      and
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      Right.
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      Yep.
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      Bomb proof!
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      Good.
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      Oh! Oh, O_K. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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      <Emphasis> Bullet-proof. </Emphasis>
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      <Emphasis> That's </Emphasis> the word I was looking for. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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      Both <Uncertain> proof </Uncertain>.
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      Either way.
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      Right. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
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      <VocalSound Description="full breath"/> Good luck. <VocalSound Description="breath"/> Really. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
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      Uh
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      So that, so th- thi- this - I mean, so this is the point, is we - we're going to have to cycle through this, but
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      Yeah.
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      th- the draft of the p- proposal on the <Emphasis> constructions </Emphasis> is - is going to tell us a <Emphasis> lot </Emphasis> about <Pause/> what <Pause/> we think needs to be done by <Emphasis> construal. </Emphasis>
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      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> O_K. <Comment Description="froggy voice"/> <VocalSound Description="clears throat"/> <VocalSound Description="outbreath"/>
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      And, um, we oughta be <Emphasis> doing </Emphasis> it.
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      Yeah, we need - we need some - Then we need to make some dates.
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      Um. <VocalSound Description="outbreath"/>
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      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> Meeting - regular meeting time for the summer, we really haven't found one. We did <Pause/> Thursdays <Emphasis> one </Emphasis> for a while.
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      I just talked to Ami. It's- it's a coincidence that he <Emphasis> can't </Emphasis> do - <Emphasis> couldn't </Emphasis> do it today <Pause/> here.
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      Usually he has no real constraints. So -
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      And the N_T_L meeting moved to <Emphasis> Wednesday, </Emphasis> cuz of - of, uh <Comment Description="joining onto [mn015]'s utterance"/>
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      Yeah, it was just an <Pronounce Pronunciation="&quot;ex..ception&quot;"> exception.  </Pronounce>
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      Yeah, you weren't here, but - but - but - s- uh, - And so, if that's O_K with you, you would -
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      It's i- Is it staying basically at the Wednesday noon?
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      Yeah, it was th-
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      Yeah. I always thought it was staying.
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      O_K. It was th- off this week, yeah.
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      Yeah, I thought it was just this week that we were changing it.
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      Mmm. <Pause/> <Pronounce Pronunciation="nasalized"> Yeah.  </Pronounce>
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      Right.
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      O_K.
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      And, um. How do we feel about doing it Wednesdays? Because it seems to me that this is sort of a time where when we <Pause/> have things to discuss with <Emphasis> other </Emphasis> people, there - they seem to be s- tons of people around.
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      The only disadvantage <Pause/> is that it may interfere with other
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      Or -
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      s- you know, other - other - No, you - Uh, people in <Emphasis> this </Emphasis> group connecting with - with
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      Those people who <Pause/> happen to be around. <Comment Description="completing [me010]'s utterance"/>
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      those people <Pause/> who - who might not be around so <Emphasis> much. </Emphasis> Uh, <Emphasis> I </Emphasis> don't care. I- I- uh
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      To tell you the truth, I'd rath- I'd, I'd - would like to avoid more than one I_C_S_I meeting per day, if possible. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> But - <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> I mean. I don't know. Whatever. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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      O_K.
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      No, that's <Emphasis> fine. </Emphasis> I mean that -
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      Yeah, I can understand that.
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      people - people differ in their tastes in this matter. I - I'm neutral.
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      Yeah.
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      Yeah.
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      Yeah. <Pause/> I'm always here anyway, so - <Comment Description="while laughing"/>
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      It's O_K, that -
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      Yeah. <Uncertain NumSyllables="2"> @@ </Uncertain> That's - Me <Emphasis> too. </Emphasis> I'm basically - I'm here. So.
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      It doesn't matter.
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      Well, if - one <Pause/> sort of thing is, this room is taken at - after three-thirty pr- pretty much every day
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      by the data collection. So we have subjects <Uncertain> anyway </Uncertain> - Except for this week, we have subjects in here. That's why it was <Emphasis> one. </Emphasis>
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      Oh.
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      Oh. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
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    <Segment StartTime="2210.679" EndTime="2211.154" Participant="me010">
      O_K.
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      So we just knew i-
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      So did you just say that Ami can't make one o'clock?
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      No, he can.
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      Oh, O_K.
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      Oh.
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    <Segment StartTime="2215.680" EndTime="2218.822" Participant="mn015">
      So let's say Thursday one. But for next week, this is a bit
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      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> So <Pause/> I would suggest that we need to - to talk -
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      Oh, oh, O_K. <VocalSound Description="clears throat"/>
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      O_K. About the c- the - th-
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      Could we do Thursday at one-thirty? Would that -
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      No. <Comment Description="lengthened"/>
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      that be horrible?
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      Yes.
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      Oh really?
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      Because, uh, this room is again taken at two-thirty by Morgan.
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      Oh, O_K. O_K. You didn't tell me that. O_K, that's fine.
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      And
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      the - s- meeting recorder meeting meeting meeting recording on meeting meetings - <Comment Description="joking about name of meeting project"/>
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      O_K, O_K, O_K.
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      O_K. <Pause/> Yeah.
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      So. <Comment Description="while laughing"/>
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      <Emphasis> Interesting. </Emphasis> <Comment Description="quietly"/> So you're proposing that we meet <Emphasis> Tuesday. </Emphasis>
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      Ah, yeah. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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      How about that?
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      Well, <Emphasis> we're </Emphasis> meeting Tuesday. I mean we <Emphasis> usually </Emphasis> meet Tuesday - or l- like, linguists <Pause/> um, at <Emphasis> two. </Emphasis>
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      Next week.
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      I - I could
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      <Uncertain> Would it - </Uncertain>
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      That's right.
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      So.
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      And the s-
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      Do you want to meet again here bef-
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      <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> I mean w-
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      Is the Speech-Gen meeting still at - on Tuesdays?
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      Well, actually we- w- we- we <Emphasis> did </Emphasis> scrap our <Emphasis> Monday </Emphasis> time just because <Emphasis> Bhaskara </Emphasis> couldn't
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      Hhh. <Comment Description="vocal gesture, difficulty"/> Maybe I <Emphasis> do </Emphasis> need a Palm Pilot.
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      come Monday. So there's - <Emphasis> Nothing's </Emphasis> impeding <Emphasis> Monday </Emphasis> anymore <Pause/> <Emphasis> either. </Emphasis>
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      That doesn't apply to a -
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      Get a fresh start -
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      Although I thought you wanted to go <Emphasis> camping </Emphasis> on Monday - er, take off Mondays a lot so you could go <Emphasis> camping. </Emphasis>
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      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> Yeah, that's another s- thing. Yeah.
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      But, um. I mean, there are also usually then holidays anyways.
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      I mean <Pause/> like - <Comment Description="quietly"/>
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      Usually? <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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      <Emphasis> Sometimes </Emphasis> <Pause/> it works out that way.
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      So. Hmm!
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      Well, I mean, the <Emphasis> linguists' </Emphasis> meeting <Pause/> i- happens to be at two, but I think that's - I mean. <VocalSound Description="mouth"/>
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      That should be relatively flexible be- <Comment Description="mike seems to be briefly shut off"/>
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      - pretty flexible, I think. So.
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      Yeah. There's just <Pause/> sort of the
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      The multiple meetings <Pause/> yeah.
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      two to four of us. Right? Yeah. So.
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      Right.
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      And, you know, of course Nancy and I are just sort of always talking <Emphasis> anyway </Emphasis> and sometimes we do it in that room. So, you know, I mean. <VocalSound Description="breath"/> <VocalSound Description="expulsive outbreath"/> <Comment Description="vocal gesture"/>
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      Yeah. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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      O_K, so <Pause/> l- forget about the b- the camping thing. So let's - eh, any <Emphasis> other </Emphasis> problems w- w- w- ?
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      But, <Emphasis> I </Emphasis> suggested Monday. If that's a problem for me then I shouldn't <Pause/> <Emphasis> suggest </Emphasis> it. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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      Ha-ha-ha. <Comment Description="vocal gesture, specialized laugh"/>
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      So.
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      O_K. <Comment Description="very quietly"/>
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      Um, all of the proposed times sound fine with me.
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      Same here.
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      Monday?
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      O_K, whate- I mean -
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      What I think Robert's saying is that
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      Earlier in the week
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      earlier we - At least for next week, there's a lot of stuff we want to get done, so why don't we plan to meet Monday and <Pause/> we'll see if we want to meet any more than that.
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      Mm-hmm. Yeah.
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      Mmm.
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      O_K.
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      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> What time? <Pause/>
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      O_K.
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      At o- o- o- o- one, two, three - ? <Comment Description="quietly"/>
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      One, two, three?
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      <Emphasis> Three's </Emphasis> too late. Two-thirty?
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      Oh, I i- <Pause/> Yeah, <Emphasis> I </Emphasis> actually - <Emphasis> Two </Emphasis> is the earliest I can meet on Monday.
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      O_K, two.
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      Here I'm <Emphasis> blissfully </Emphasis> agreeing to things and realizing that I actually <Emphasis> do </Emphasis> have some stuff scheduled on Monday.
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      Sure. Sounds great.
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      Uh, so that's the eighteenth.
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      You guys will still remind me, right? <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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      No way!
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      Y- you'll come and take all the - <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> the headph- the good headphones first and <Emphasis> then </Emphasis> remind me.
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      W- why do you - ?
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      Yeah, exactly.
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      <VocalSound Description="hiss"/> <Comment Description="vocal gesture of mock opposition"/>
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      And
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      Sorry, two P_M.
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      Why do I have this unless I'm gonna <Uncertain> write </Uncertain>? Fine.
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      do I get to see th- uh, your formalism before <Pause/> that?
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      Yes. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
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      Uh. Would you like to?
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      Mm-hmm.
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      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> O_K. I was actually gonna work on it for tomorrow - like this - this weekend.
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      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> I wo- I would like - I would sort of <Pause/> get a - get a <Emphasis> notion </Emphasis> of what - what you guys have in store for me.
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      Yeah.
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      Well m- <Uncertain NumSyllables="1"> @@ </Uncertain> you know, w- maybe Mond- Maybe we can put - This is part of what we can do Monday, if we want.
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      Yeah. I-
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      O_K.
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      Alright. <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
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      O_K.
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      I mean, I - I - I -
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      Is some - some version
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      <Emphasis> Yeah, </Emphasis> so there was like, you know, m- m- in my head the goal to have like an intermediate version, like, everything <Emphasis> I </Emphasis> know.
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      Mm-hmm.
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      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> And then, w- I would talk to <Emphasis> you </Emphasis> and figure out everything <Emphasis> you </Emphasis> know, that - you know, see if they're consistent.
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      Yeah.
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      O_K.
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      Why don't w- Maybe you and I should meet sort of more or less first thing Monday morning and then we can work on this.
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      Yes.
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      Yeah.
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      That's f- fine with me. So.
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      O_K.
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      <VocalSound Description="mouth"/> You- y- <VocalSound Description="outbreath"/>
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      I might - I might - um, s- You said you're busy <Pause/> over th- until the weekend, right?
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      Yeah, sort of through the weekend because Kate has a photography show.
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    <Segment StartTime="2415.930" EndTime="2418.543" Participant="fe004">
      That's fine. So we <Emphasis> might </Emphasis> continue our email
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      Yeah.
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      thing and that might be fine, too. So, maybe I'll send you some - <Comment Description="trailing off"/>
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      Um, if you have time after this I'll show you the noun phrase thing.
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      O_K. That would be cool. So.
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      O_K, and
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      we'll -
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      <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/> So the idea is on Monday at two we'll -
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      You wanna m-
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      we'll see an intermediate version of the formalism for the constructions, and do an on-line merging with my construal <Pause/> ideas.
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      Yeah.
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    <Segment StartTime="2432.800" EndTime="2434.333" Participant="fe004">
      So that's O_K for you -
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      Sure, sure.
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      O_K.
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    <Segment StartTime="2439.127" EndTime="2439.582" Participant="me045">
      Alright.
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      So it won't be, like, a for- semi-formal presentation of my <Pause/> proposal. It'll be more like towards <Pause/> finalizing that proposal. O_K, that's fine.
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      That's O_K.
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      O_K.
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      Cuz then you'll find out more of what we're making you do. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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      Yep, and then -
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      Hmm, hmm. <Comment Description="said with mock sinister tone of voice, like &quot;heh heh&quot;"/>
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      Yeah.
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      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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      <Uncertain> Yikes. </Uncertain>
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      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> We'll make a presentation of your propo- <Comment Description="while laughing"/> of your proposal. <Comment Description="while laughing"/>
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      Oy, <Comment Description="interjection"/> deadlines.
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      <Emphasis> Perfect. </Emphasis> Can you also write it up?
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      It's like, "this is what we're doing. And the complement is Robert." <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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      <VocalSound Description="nasal-breath-laugh"/> Abso- <VocalSound Description="nasal-breath-laugh"/>
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      I'll - I'll send you -
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      I'll - I'll send you a style file, right? You just -
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      O_K. <Comment Description="while laughing"/>
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      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> I already sent you my fi- <Comment Description="while laughing"/> my bib file. So.
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      O_K. And, um.
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      Sounds <Emphasis> good. </Emphasis> <Comment Description="quietly"/>
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      Someday we also have to - we should probably talk about the other side of the "where is X_" construction, which is the issue of, um, how do you simulate questions? What does the simspec look like for a question?
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      Yeah.
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      Mm-hmm. <VocalSound Description="mouth noise"/>
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      Because <Pause/> it's a little different. We had to - we had an idea for this which seemed like it would <Uncertain> probably </Uncertain> work.
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      Yeah.
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      Yeah, now, we- we w-
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      Great. O_K. Yeah. Simspec may need - we may n- need to re-name that.
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      I - Yeah. I -
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      Yeah.
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      O_K? So let's think of a name for - for whatever the - this intermediate structure is. Oh, we talked about <Emphasis> semspec, </Emphasis> for "semantic spec- specification" and that seems -
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      Mmm.
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      Um. <Comment Description="lengthened"/>
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      It's more general <Uncertain NumSyllables="2"> @@ </Uncertain>
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      You know, so it's a m- minimal change.
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      Only have to change one vowel. That's great. All the old like <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> graphs, just change the - just, like, mark out the -
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      Yeah. Just -
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      Right.
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      Right, a little substi- substi- You know, that's what text <Pronounce> substitution  </Pronounce>
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      Cool.
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      Yeah. It's <Emphasis> good </Emphasis> for you.
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      Yeah.
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      uh macros are for. Anyway, uh, so let's - let's for the <Emphasis> moment </Emphasis> call it that until we think of something better.
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      O_K.
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      And, yeah, we absolutely need to find -
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      <Emphasis> Part </Emphasis> of what was <Emphasis> missing </Emphasis> were markings of all <Emphasis> sorts </Emphasis> that weren't in there, incl- including the questions - We didn't - we never did figure out how we were gonna do emphasis
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      Mm-hmm.
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      Yeah.
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      in - in
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      uh, the semspec.
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      Yeah, we've talked a little bit about <Pause/> that, too, which -
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      uh, uh, it's hard for me to figure out with <Uncertain> sort of </Uncertain> our general linguistic issues, how they map onto this particular one, but - <Comment Description="abandoned"/>
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      Yeah.
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      O_K, yeah, understood. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
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      But that's part of the formalism - is got to be
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      uh, how things like that get marked.
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      Mm-hmm.
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      W- do you have data, like the - the -
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      You have preliminary <Pause/> data? Cuz I know, you know, we've been using this one easy sentence
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      and I'm sure you guys have - uh, maybe you are the one who've been looking at <Pause/> the rest of it - it'd - it'd be useful for me, if we want to <Pause/> have it a little bit more
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      Um, I-
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      To tell you the truth, what I've been looking at has not been the data so far, I just sort of said "alright let's see if I can get noun phrases and, uh, major verb co- uh, constructions out of the way first."
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      data oriented.
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      Yeah.
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      Mm-hmm <Pause/> mm-hmm.
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      And I have <Emphasis> not </Emphasis> gotten them out of the way yet. Surprise. So, um.
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      Mm-hmm. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
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      Yeah. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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      So, I have not really approached a lot of the data, but I mean obviously like these - the - the question one, since we have this idea about the indefinite pronoun thing and all that, you know, I ca- can try and, um
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      run with <Emphasis> that, </Emphasis> you know, try and do some of the sentence constructions now. It would make sense.
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      O_K. Do you wanna run the indefinite pronoun idea past Jerry?
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      O_K.
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      Oh yeah, the basic idea is that um,
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      uh <Pause/> you know - Uh, <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> let's see <Pause/> if I can <Pause/> formulate this.
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      So <Pause/> Mary fixed the car with a wrench.
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      Yeah.
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      So you <Uncertain> perform the mental sum </Uncertain> and then, you know, "<Emphasis> who </Emphasis> fixed the car with a wrench?"
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      You <Pause/> basically are told, to - to do this
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      <NonVocalSound Description="mike noise"/> In the - in - analogously to the way you would do "<Emphasis> someone </Emphasis> fixed the car with a wrench". And then you hand it back to your hippocampus and find out <Pause/> what that, you know,
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      Means. <Comment Description="completing [mn015]'s utterance"/>
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      means, and then <Pause/> come up with that - so <Emphasis> who </Emphasis> that someone was.
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      The W_H question has this as sort of extra thing which says "and when you're done, tell me who fills that slot" or w- you know. So, um.
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      Mm-hmm.
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      And, you know, this is sort of a nice way to do it, the idea of sort of saying that you treat - from the simulation point of view or whatever - you treat, uh, W_H constructions similarly to
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      uh, indefinite pronouns like "someone fixed the car" because <Pause/> lots of languages, um, have W_H questions with an indefinite pronoun in situ or whatever, and you just get intonation to tell you that it's a question.
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      Use actually the same one. <Comment Description="completing [me045]'s utterance"/>
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      Alright, which is
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      So it makes sense <Pause/> um <Pause/>
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      Skolemization. <Comment Description="presentational intonation"/>
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      Hmm?
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      In - in logic, it's - it's - <Uncertain NumSyllables="2"> @@ </Uncertain> <Comment Description="uncodeable vocal sounds"/> it's actual- Huh? What?
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      Mmm.
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      Right. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> Let's put a Skolem - <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> Skolem constant in, yeah.
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      Yeah.
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      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> shko-
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      Sure.
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      Yeah. <Pause/> Right.
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      O_K.
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      That- that's not - that's not saying it's <Emphasis> bad, </Emphasis> it's just that -
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      Right.
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      Right. No. Of course.
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      that - that - the logicians have - have, uh -
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      Mmm.
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      That's right.
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      come up with this
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      It makes sense from that point of view, too, which is actually better. So yeah, um.
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      Anyway, but just that kind of thing and we'll figure out exactly how to write that up and so on, but
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      Good.
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      Uh, no, all the focus stuff. We sort of just dropped that cuz it was too weird and we didn't even know, like, what we were talking about <Comment Description="while laughing"/> exactly, what the object of study was. So.
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      Yeah. Well, if - if - I mean, i- part of - of what the exercise is, t- by the end of next week, is to say what are the things that we just don't have answers for yet.
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      Yeah.
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      That's fine. I mean
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      Yep.
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      Mm-hmm.
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      Well, if you - if you
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      <Emphasis> do </Emphasis> wanna discuss focus <Pause/> background
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      and then
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      get <Emphasis> me </Emphasis> into that because - I mean, I wo- I w- scientifically worked on that for - for almost two years.
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      Yeah.
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      O_K, then certainly we will. Good.
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      Yeah, you should definitely, um
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      be on on that - maybe - maybe by - after Monday we'll - y- you can see what things we are and aren't -
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      Yeah. w- We should figure out what our questions are, for example, <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> to ask you. So.
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      Yeah.
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      Yeah.
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      O_K. <Comment Description="very quietly"/>
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      O_K.
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      Wel- then- t- Hans.
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      Has - I haven't seen Hans Boas?
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      <Emphasis> He's </Emphasis> been around.
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      Yeah.
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      O_K. So has he been - been involved with this, or - ?
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      Just maybe not today.
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      Eh. with us? Yeah. I would say that tha- that those discussions have been primarily, um, Keith and - Keith and <Emphasis> me, </Emphasis> but um
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      Yeah.
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      Yeah.
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      like in th- the meeting - I mean, he sort of - I thin- like the <Emphasis> last </Emphasis> meeting we had, I think we were all very much part of it <Pause/> but <Pause/> um
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      Yeah.
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      Sometimes Hans has been sort of coming in there as sort of like a <Pause/> devil's advocate type role or something, <Comment Description="rising intonation"/> like <Pause/> "This make - you know, I'm going to pretend I'm a linguist who has nothing to do with this. This makes no sense." And he'll just go off on parts of it which <Pause/> definitely need fixing but aren't where we're <Emphasis> at </Emphasis> right now, so it's
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      but different perspec- Yeah.
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      Right.
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      Like - like what you <Emphasis> call </Emphasis> certain things, which we decided long ago we don't care that much right now.
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      Yeah.
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      Right.
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      O_K.
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      But in a sense, it's good to know that he <Pause/> of all people - you know, like maybe a lot of people would have m- much stronger reactions, so, you know, he's like a relatively friendly linguist and <Emphasis> yet </Emphasis> a word like "constraint" causes a lot of problems.
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      Yeah.
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      Yeah.
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      <VocalSound Description="mouth noise"/> O_K. This is consistent with
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      And, so. <Pause/> Right. So.
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      um
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      the role I had suggested that he - he <Emphasis> play, </Emphasis>
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      Ah.
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      Mm-hmm.
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      O_K, which was <Pause/> that
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      o- one of the things I would like to see happen
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      is a paper that was tentatively called "Towards a formal cognitive semantics"
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      which was addressed to
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      these linguists <Pause/> uh <Pause/> who haven't been following <Pause/> this stuff at all.
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      Yeah.
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      So <Pause/> it <Emphasis> could </Emphasis> be that he's actually, at some level, thinking about how am I going to <Pause/> communicate this story - <Comment Description="trailing off"/>
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    <Segment StartTime="2833.556" EndTime="2833.952" Participant="me045">
      Yeah.
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      Yeah.
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    <Segment StartTime="2839.020" EndTime="2843.992" Participant="me010">
      So, <Emphasis> internally, </Emphasis> we should just do <Pause/> whatever works, cuz it's hard enough.
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      Yeah.
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      Yeah.
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    <Segment StartTime="2844.540" EndTime="2850.311" Participant="me010">
      But <Pause/> if he g- if he turns - is - is really gonna turn around and help t- to write this version that
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      Mm-hmm.
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    <Segment StartTime="2849.799" EndTime="2850.214" Participant="me045">
      Mm-hmm.
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    <Segment StartTime="2850.825" EndTime="2855.948" Participant="me010">
      <Emphasis> does </Emphasis> <Pause/> connect with as many as possible of the <Pause/> other linguists in the world
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    <Segment StartTime="2856.130" EndTime="2856.407" Participant="me045">
      Yeah.
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      um <Comment Description="lengthened"/>
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      then -
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      <Emphasis> then </Emphasis> it becomes important to <Pause/> use
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      terminology that
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      Yeah.
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      Mm-hmm. <Pause/> Sure.
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      doesn't
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      make it <Emphasis> hard </Emphasis> - I mean, it's gonna be <Emphasis> plenty </Emphasis> hard for - for people to understand it as it is, but y- y- you don't want to make it <Emphasis> worse. </Emphasis>
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      Yeah.
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      Yeah.
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      So. <Comment Description="quietly"/>
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      No, right. I mean, tha- that role is - is, uh, indispensable but that's not where sort of our heads were at in these meetings. It was a little strange. <VocalSound Description="inbreath"/>
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      Right.
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      Yeah, yeah. - No, that's fine. I just wanted t- to
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      I have to catch up with <Emphasis> him, </Emphasis> and I wanted t- to get a feeling for that. O_K.
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      Yeah.
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      Mm-hmm.
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    <Segment StartTime="2890.370" EndTime="2893.526" Participant="me045">
      So I don't know what his take will be on these meetings exactly, you know.
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      O_K.
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      <VocalSound Description="breath"/>
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    <Segment StartTime="2895.775" EndTime="2896.032" Participant="me010">
      Good.
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      Cuz sometimes he sort of sounds like we're talking a bunch of goobledy-gook from his point of view.
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      I think it's good when we're -
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      when we're into <Emphasis> data </Emphasis> and looking at the - some specific linguistic phenomenon <Pause/> in - in English or in <Emphasis> German, </Emphasis> in particular, whatever,
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      Yeah.
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      Mm-hmm.
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      that's <Emphasis> great, </Emphasis> and Ben and - and Hans are, if - if anything, <Emphasis> more </Emphasis> - you know, they have <Emphasis> more </Emphasis> to say than, let's say, I would about some of these things.
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      Right.
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      But when it's like, well, w- how do we <Emphasis> capture </Emphasis> these things, you know, I think it's definitely been Keith and I who have d- you know, who have worried more about the -
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      Well, that's good. That's - I- I- I think that <Emphasis> should </Emphasis> be the -
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      Mm-hmm.
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      s- Which is fine.
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      Yeah.
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      the core group <Pause/> and <Pause/> um
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      Mm-hmm.
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      that's, you know, I think <Pause/> <Emphasis> very </Emphasis> close to the maximum number of people working together that can get something done.
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      Yeah. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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      Yes.
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      <Uncertain> Yeah </Uncertain>. We actually <Emphasis> have </Emphasis> - I think we <Emphasis> have </Emphasis> been making progress, and its sort of surprising. You know, like - <Comment Description="while laughing"/>
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      I - I - I - I <Emphasis> definitely </Emphasis> get that impression. Yeah. That's great.
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      Yeah.
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      Yep.
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      Yeah.
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      So anyone else would like uh <Comment Description="while laughing"/> ruin the balance of - <Emphasis> Anyway. </Emphasis>
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      Well, but - <Emphasis> Well. </Emphasis> But th- th- then w- then we have to come <Emphasis> back </Emphasis> to the bigger group.
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      Right.
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      Yeah.
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      Yeah. <Comment Description="quietly"/> <Pause/> Great. And then we're gon- we're gonna - because of this <Emphasis> other </Emphasis> big thing we haven't talked about is <Pause/> actually implementing this stuff?
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      So that I guess the three of us are gonna connect tomorrow about that.
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    <Segment StartTime="2956.530" EndTime="2957.525" Participant="fe004">
      Yeah, we could talk tomorrow.
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      I was just gonna say, though, that, for instance, there was - you know, out of a meeting with Johno <Pause/>
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      came the suggestion that "<Emphasis> oh, </Emphasis>
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      could it be that the <Pause/> meaning <Pause/> constraints really <Emphasis> aren't </Emphasis> used for selection?" which has sort of been implicit <Pause/> in the parsing <Pause/> strategy we talked about. In which case we w- we can just say that they're the <Emphasis> effects </Emphasis> or the <Emphasis> bindings. </Emphasis>
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      Right.
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      Which <Pause/> uh, <Emphasis> so </Emphasis> far, in terms of like putting up all the constraints as, you know, pushing them into <Emphasis> type </Emphasis> constraints, the - when I've, you know, propo- then proposed it to linguists who <Emphasis> haven't </Emphasis> yet given me - you know, we haven't yet thought of a reason that that wouldn't work.
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      Right? As long as we allow our type constraints to be reasonably <Pause/> complex.
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      Well, it -
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      So - <Emphasis> Anyway, </Emphasis> to be - to talk about later.
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      Yeah, it <Emphasis> has </Emphasis> to in the sense that
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      you're gonna use them eventu- it's - you know, it's sort of a, um, generate and <Emphasis> test </Emphasis>
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      Mm-hmm. <Pause/> Mm-hmm.
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      kind of thing, and if you <Emphasis> over-generate </Emphasis> then you'll have to do more. I mean, if there are <Emphasis> some </Emphasis> constraints that you hold back and don't use
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      uh, in your initial matching
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      Mm-hmm. <Pause/> Mm-hmm.
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      then you'll match some things - I mean, I - I d- I don't think there's any way that it could <Emphasis> completely </Emphasis> fail. It - it could be that
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      uh, you wind up - I mean -
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      The original <Emphasis> bad </Emphasis> idea of purely context-free grammars
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      You know, <Emphasis> exponentially </Emphasis> num- num- many parses. And so th- the <Emphasis> concern </Emphasis> might be that - not that it would <Emphasis> totally </Emphasis> fail, but that -
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      Mm-hmm.
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      Mm-hmm.
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      That it would <Emphasis> still </Emphasis> generate too many. <Comment Description="completing [me010]'s utterance"/>
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      it would still genera-
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      Right? So by <Emphasis> just </Emphasis> having semantic- even bringing semantics in for matching <Emphasis> just </Emphasis> in the form of j- semantic types, right? Like
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      "conceptually these have to be construed as this, this, and this"
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      Yeah.
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      might <Emphasis> still </Emphasis> give us quite a few possibilities <Pause/>
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      We don't know, but, yeah.
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      that, you know - And - and
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      it certainly helps a lot. I mean, le- let's put it that way. So.
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      No question. Yeah. And I think it's a - it's a <Emphasis> perfectly </Emphasis> fine place to <Emphasis> start. </Emphasis>
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      You know, and say, let- let's see how far we can <Emphasis> go </Emphasis> this way.
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      Mm-hmm. <Pause/> Mm-hmm.
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      And, uh -
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      Well it <Emphasis> definitely </Emphasis> makes the problem easier.
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      I'm - I'm in favor of <Emphasis> that. </Emphasis>
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      Uh, cuz I think i- I think it's - As you know, I think it's real hard and if w- if we - <Comment Description="abandoned"/> Right.
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    <Segment StartTime="3085.400" EndTime="3088.204" Participant="fe004">
      So <Pause/> Friday, Monday
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      Yeah.
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      Monday. So. O_K, that's - <Emphasis> Tuesday. </Emphasis> Like - <Comment Description="while laughing"/> th- that's the conclusion. O_K.
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      Yeah.
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      Yeah.
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      Yeah. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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      So, you- your dance card is <Pause/> completely filled now?
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      Mm-hmm. <Comment Description="muffled"/>
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      No, that's not really true, but like -
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      What about - What about D_D_R?
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      It's almost true.
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      Mmm.
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      D_D_R, he asked?
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      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> Speaking of dance, Dance Dance Revolution <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> - I can't believe I'm - It's a - it's like a game, but it's for, like, dancing. Hard to - It's like karaoke, but for dancing,
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      It's a - It's - It's a video game? You stand there and
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      Oh that's - Oh, oh, oh!
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      and they tell you what - It's amazing. It's <Emphasis> so </Emphasis> much fun. Yeah, it's <Emphasis> so </Emphasis> good. My friend has a home version and he brought it over, and we are <Emphasis> so </Emphasis> into it. It's <Emphasis> so </Emphasis> amazing. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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      Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
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      Oh, right!
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      Oh, yeah! Now this -
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      No, it's not one of my hobbies.
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      It's great exercise, I must say.
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      But, uh
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      No, I - I - I -
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      <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> I can't wait to hear this.
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      I see - I see it - things about it on T_V. O_K?
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      Uh-huh.
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      ap- Apparently - Oh, it's the hottest thing in Tokyo?
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      Oh, <Emphasis> definitely. </Emphasis> They have, like, places - instead of like - Yeah, instead of karaoke bars now that have, like, D_D_R, like - <VocalSound Description="laugh"/>
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      That's the sort of thing that would be hot in Tokyo.
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      Yeah, I didn't know it by its initials.
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      Yeah, yeah, I didn't until I started hanging out with this friend, who's like "Oh, well, I can bring over the D_D_R if you want."
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      Oh, oh, Dance Dance Revolution - O_K. <VocalSound Description="laugh"/> He actually brought a clone called Stepping Selection, but it's just as good. So. <Emphasis> Anyw- </Emphasis>
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